The Basics of CAPITAL SHIP COMBAT Explained | Star Wars Battle Breakdown

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  • We take a close look at the basics of capital ship combat on today's Star Wars Battle Breakdown.
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    Star Wars, and Star Wars Legends lore especially, has focused a lot of time of explaining space warfare. From the tactics of Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari cruisers during the Galactic Civil War and Beyond, to specific maneuvers like the Ackbar Slash or the Thrawn Pincer. I'll talk about it all on today's Star Wars Legends Battle Breakdown video!
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  • @GaudetteProductions1
    @GaudetteProductions1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3339

    My boss walked in on me watching this vid and called me a nerd, but jokes on him because now I have a better understanding of capital ship combat and he doesn’t.

    • @danielharris3862
      @danielharris3862 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @amarsatori So true

    • @dwarfie24
      @dwarfie24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @amarsatori I would argue we have to little to go on to come with such heavy critisicm. Also nothing wrong with being a nerd.

    • @thekenjistream8683
      @thekenjistream8683 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @amarsatori
      Gezz chill dude

    • @douglasparkinson4123
      @douglasparkinson4123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Challenge him to empire at war

    • @padawanboricua
      @padawanboricua 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@douglasparkinson4123 The main reason why I watched this video. Lol.

  • @DimoB8
    @DimoB8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2137

    He protec
    He attac
    But most importantly
    He analyse space combat

    • @tsjeng5884
      @tsjeng5884 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ΔΗΜΟΣΘΕΝΗΣ ΜΠΑΛΑ You made my day sir

    • @wedoalittlearson7609
      @wedoalittlearson7609 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @eridor
      @eridor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. Bravo dude

    • @senateop9680
      @senateop9680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      damn

    • @itsyaboidaniel2919
      @itsyaboidaniel2919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It could have been so much better if he spelled "analyze" right

  • @attilathehun5067
    @attilathehun5067 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1806

    Obviously, you're not a Mon-Calamari. Otherwise your five battle tactics would have been as follows:
    1. Ramming.
    2. Ramming a small ship into a big ship.
    3. Ramming a big ship into a big ship.
    4. Ramming a small ship into a big ship, thus ramming said big ship into another big ship, causing those ships to crash into an important military installation of sorts.
    5. Hyperspace ramming.

    • @idk1848
      @idk1848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      😂

    • @gama343
      @gama343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Technically your ship is your biggest weapon in the form of a gigantic torpedo...so, valid tactic. Yes.

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      So, you are basically part of a Kamikaze unit, I will only make that with ships like the Recusant class light destroyer, because it can basically be pilot by itself with a small crew of droid pilots

    • @irenerivera4827
      @irenerivera4827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or get a mon cal cruiser

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Laser combat makes no sense. Magic shields that somehow stop lasers AND kinetic energy (Mass*Velocity) make no sense. Kinetic weapons reign supreme in realistic space warfare.
      And wtf are none of these people wearing space suits when all it takes is one hole in the room to end your life.
      You'd pass out within 15 seconds and die in a matter of minutes, with all sorts of nasty injuries in between.

  • @christophergillette7167
    @christophergillette7167 6 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    I have always wanted a Star Wars movie to do true justice to a large fleet battle, where the capital ships actually use their firepower instead of just being set pieces..

    • @OverlordZephyros
      @OverlordZephyros 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Clone wars series did it a bit of Justice

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I just wish Star Wars (and honestly MOST sci-fi) space battles would break the plane. It is unreasonable to always have your enemy fighting you on the same fleet plane that you have established for your side. At least BSG has the friendly ships in a 3-D fleet, with planar orientation. Star Trek and Star Wars are seemingly incapable of having ships not share the same 'up' even when in deep space.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, the orientation thing was always a bit weird.
      I think I understand where it comes from though; Back when physical models were used, it's actually quite difficult to 'turn' those models, plus they are only structurally stable in certain orientations.
      An example from Star Trek where the Enterprise D did a 90 degree roll actually required them to film 3 distinct shots and composit them together, which is a LOT of work for a TV show.
      Meanwhile, Babylon 5, which was entirely CG did a much better job of such things, so it's reasonable to assume that filming technology has an impact.
      That doesn't excuse later star wars and Star trek though (the prequels are almost entirely CGI, as are many of the fleet battles in DS9, much of Voyager and Enterprise's special effects, and the TNG films from Insurrection onwards)
      As to some other aspects of space combat that don't quite make sense, there are some in-lore handwaves for these, which aren't generally mentioned, but do kind of make sense.
      For instance, Star Trek ships fly as though they're in atmosphere much of the time (if the ship turns, it moves in the direction it turned with little to no sliding - there are exceptions though; we see the Defiant slide through turns in some shots near DS9 - but this is still more of a skidding turn like an aircraft than what you would expect to see in space)
      The reasoning why this might be the case would be the observation that 'Impulse' drives are non-newtonian; They don't work through action-reaction rocket propulsion, but more of a hybrid technique involving a degree of thrust combined with manipulation of an energy field;
      It stands to reason this may have some qualities that don't obey newtonian physics directly.
      Obviously this is a complete handwave, and it only explains why ships turn the way they do, not why they're never out of plane with one another (one ship upside down or at an angle to the other)
      I guess someone just keeps deciding that it looks stupid?
      Ah well. XD

    • @7tearmee945
      @7tearmee945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonkeyJedi99 not really.

    • @kqawiyy
      @kqawiyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MonkeyJedi99 The only Sci-fi media I've seen explicitly address this issue is Ender's Game

  • @owenhexley6426
    @owenhexley6426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    You should talk about how you would command a blockade

    • @jessenichols9618
      @jessenichols9618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I wonder how blockades work in space....unlike water

    • @davidthewhale7556
      @davidthewhale7556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Jesse Nichols they block hyperspace lanes instead of an entire area
      That’s why on screen blockades are only in one side of a planet because that side is the side facing the lane

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Blockading an entire planet is SO difficult that if you have enough ships or other orbital assets to do it, you may as well just take or glass the planet. Unlike what we see in Star Wars movies and shows, a ship lacking an endless supply of fuel does not just sit over a non-equatorial location of a planet. It has to orbit. To cover every possible escape path will take massive numbers of things in orbit.

    • @alalalala57
      @alalalala57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MonkeyJedi99 That's why you gotta blockade the system, not the planet. Like another commenter said, through blockading hyperspace lanes.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@alalalala57 And that only works if the people you are blockading are not crazy enough to hyperspace out on a non-lane vector.

  • @ESFNinja
    @ESFNinja 6 ปีที่แล้ว +695

    Star Wars capital ship tactics had always fascinated me. Equipped with advanced technology, but sometimes uses them in a way that would be acceptable in WW1. Quite fascinating indeed.

    • @user-Jay178
      @user-Jay178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Captain Cutter yeah

    • @Galvars
      @Galvars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Push that even earlier to the times of galleons and broadsides.

    • @totalwar1793
      @totalwar1793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s funny how in Legends the ranges of ships are in the light years.

    • @KaiserFranzJosefI
      @KaiserFranzJosefI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Star Wars has absolutely no tactics at all. Its literally just sitting there shooting at each other, no maneuvering just nothing.

    • @Galvars
      @Galvars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's also tactic my Emperor, not the most complicated but it is a tactic of exhaustion. Last ship standing win.

  • @darthvader4594
    @darthvader4594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1211

    Ekharts ladder should become an imperial commander.

    • @jaaksootak318
      @jaaksootak318 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      Darth Vader No, he is too competent for that.

    • @HonestHappyHater
      @HonestHappyHater 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Jaak Sootak
      Nah, most of them were competent. And the incompetent part lived only until they failed Darth Vader

    • @lesleynolan1317
      @lesleynolan1317 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Darth Vader no a rebel commander

    • @dawncorbin2100
      @dawncorbin2100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Darth Vader one that teaches new recruits the mistakes of the empire and to not do them again

    • @jellojiei6061
      @jellojiei6061 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jaak Sootak how about a grand admiral I think he is about that level because grand admiral Thrawn is in my mind more competent

  • @solorhypercane5041
    @solorhypercane5041 6 ปีที่แล้ว +511

    US airforce ad on this video,
    This is a naval video
    Go post your ad on the starfighter video

    • @itsyaboidaniel2919
      @itsyaboidaniel2919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You commented this 3 times lmao

    • @monke12354
      @monke12354 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But starfighters are also on this video

    • @Bluesonofman
      @Bluesonofman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Generation Tech would be Proud

    • @tylernichols6768
      @tylernichols6768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The ads are targetted at you, not the video author lol

    • @IncredibleMD
      @IncredibleMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joke's on you, the USN is a way more useful airforce than the Air Force.

  • @amandafranks5108
    @amandafranks5108 6 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    the Akbar slash was Invented by Lord Admiral Haratio Nelson of England During the Battle of Trafalgar

    • @haydencrowe3024
      @haydencrowe3024 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Amanda Franks ye except it wouldnt work well in starwars because the ships actually fire foward

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also a cannon ball could easily smash its way through the entire length of a ship of the line, causing massive damage. Turbo lazers do not do this.

    • @KaiserFranzJosefI
      @KaiserFranzJosefI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Adam Bielen It can not, that would make it nearly useless. The cannon ball was meant to smash into a hull and blow shrapnel all about thus killing and injuring the crew.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      King Franz Joseph of Hungary the Napoleonic Wars Ships of the Line hulls are far thicker on the sides then the prow and stern so a cannon ball isn't even guaranteed to penetrate. Also cannon balls don't explode so the only way to produce shrapnel is to destroy things inside the ship like bulkheads, supplies, cannons, etc which you can hit far more of if you shoot down the length of the ship (you will also probably hit more crew too).

    • @KaiserFranzJosefI
      @KaiserFranzJosefI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Adam Bielen Balls your create shrapnel by blowing wooden fragments around. Napoleonic Warships were very rarely ever destroyed but instead disabled to the point they couldn't fight any longer.

  • @justafaniv1097
    @justafaniv1097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    The Ackbar Slash looks like a great way to get yourself killed. It's basically lining your ships up so that they can be summarily double broadsided ala Beckett in the last Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
    Except it's worse because earth ships of that time couldn't fire too much forward at you while you closed the distance.
    I can sorta see the appeal, since if you can break through, the ISD's have notoriously exposed rears, but the first ship in the slash is almost certainly on a suicide mission to soak up fire for those behind.

    • @jaaksootak318
      @jaaksootak318 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Justafan IV If you are going to do it with anything, then it should be the Mon Calamari cruisers as they have notoriously strong shields.

    • @sindey2000
      @sindey2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      I think the Ackbar slash is based off the move Nelson did at Trafalgar which won him the battle

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes - don't forget to 'Cap the T'...

    • @justafaniv1097
      @justafaniv1097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Chris sonofPear that’s the problem. The ackbar slash is basically allowing the opponent to top the T, which is very bad for you.
      As for Nelson. IIRC, he used disposable fireships to break the lines, not his ships of the line. Though I may be remembering the Spanish Armada instead (or both, fireships to break enemy lines was fairly common).
      And yes, mon calamari ships have great shields, but ISDs have tremendous firepower. Especially when you’re approaching in a direction that allows them to bring all guns to bare.

    • @totalwar1793
      @totalwar1793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In Trafalgar, Nelson basically did the same thing, as he knew the British had the superior ships. He raked the backs and fronts of the French with his broadsides, winning him the battle.

  • @thatgamer1185
    @thatgamer1185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Yay, tactics breakdown. I love when you go over tactics, keep it up man.

    • @Yoyle-jq9ul
      @Yoyle-jq9ul 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That Gamer yup

    • @insertnamehere2653
      @insertnamehere2653 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does he use when explaining the tacticts?

    • @crook7493
      @crook7493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lulatsch ツ what do you mean.

  • @warden-3699
    @warden-3699 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Idea: do an episode where you describe your “perfect fleet”, with access to ships from Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, and/or other sci-if universes.
    (7th try)

  • @jessegd6306
    @jessegd6306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The ultimate Capital Ship combat strategy is to throw the pommel to end the enemy fleet rightly.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I get the reference, but to use an angle of that idea, it astounds me that no Star Wars factions uses ship weapons that throw mass.

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MonkeyJedi99 From my understanding, it would probably be able to be shot down if at long range. Maybe at short range tho.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awhahoo I suppose it would depend on how fast and how small the mass was.
      A huge slow missile is easier to intercept than a very fast railgun round.

    • @awhahoo
      @awhahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MonkeyJedi99 Yeah, thats true. Easy to intercept a missle going mach 0.9 or mach 1, hard to intercept a 16 inch naval cannon shell going mach twice the speed of sound

  • @aaravtulsyan
    @aaravtulsyan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Grand Admiral Eck vs Grand Admiral Thrawn

    • @Yoyle-jq9ul
      @Yoyle-jq9ul 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aarav Tulsyan yeah

    • @sugdolomar
      @sugdolomar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aarav Tulsyan dew it!

    • @captain_hammer
      @captain_hammer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want this so much!!!!!!!!

    • @donalddeluxe6407
      @donalddeluxe6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      4d chess at its finest!

    • @landpilot6197
      @landpilot6197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Teemu Christensen way to kill the vibe

  • @gnawstic1682
    @gnawstic1682 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Lifelong Star Wars fan here and you’re killing it analyzing things I’ve been thinking about for decades Eck! Thank you! One thing I’ve always wondered tho, what is the effective RANGE of turbolasers? Great analysis with the different defense zones, but can you put some numbers on them???

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      There's really no good range figures. In the x wing books, for example, it seems like a few kms, in other sources it's hundreds or hundreds of thousands of kms.

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      in the highest ranked sources (the novels and movies for ep 3 and 6) it's either explciitly given a range of thousands of kilometers for the ep 3 novelization, or implied to be such in episode 6 given the scale of the battle of endor)

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EckhartsLadder so here's a question, what about the firing speed, specificly turbo lasers vs laser cannons? I would assume turbo lasers would be faster while cannons would be more powerful, based on the names.

    • @drearyplane8259
      @drearyplane8259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      stapuft It's actually the opposite (Legends writers rarely knew much military terminology). Turbos are more powerful but slower and less accurate than cannons, therefore turbos are used against capital ships and lasers as point defense.

    • @stapuft
      @stapuft 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DrearyPlane8 it seems more like they jUst wanted to be counterintuitive, possibly even on pourpose, I am pretty Shure in the movies they say
      "Fire turbolaser batteries"
      And then rapid fire bursts fire from the star destroyer....I do believe...
      But again that's just going from the non Disney wars universe, and I haven't read much of the.....harder more millitary EU books, I like the more adventurous books, and the more philosophical ones.
      But loads of the authors put pararells between real life battles and weapons into the works....but you are right about a few things they tended to stick with an imagined 2d plane for space battles for some reason, and other odd things like that...I am just pretty Shure that somewhere somehow, the 2 got mixed up somewhere along the way and no one corrected them untill it was too late.

  • @Isteak80
    @Isteak80 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    THANK you! I rarely see people discuss Capital Ship tactics/combat in general, and even less in the sci-fi setting.

    • @valen123456
      @valen123456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you want to see that applied in another series check out the Honorverse by David Weber. While not as Hard a Scifi series as The Expanse, has a very effective missile combat and some enormous and well thought out fleet strategies applying many similar tactics, concepts and strategies described in this video.

    • @godswolf6280
      @godswolf6280 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isteak80 ya I have a hard time finding people to talk about it my self

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha, honorverse reference yeah!

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try legend of galactic heroes (or first, starship operators). starship operators does have a pretty hard sf combat system.
      oh and read the atomic rockets website.

    • @TheHalcyonTwilight
      @TheHalcyonTwilight 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Halo has some good stuff in the expanded universe. The Keyes Loop is genuinely brilliant, for example.

  • @mikevasquez1103
    @mikevasquez1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The thing you mentioned about having ships jump in from nearby systems made me think about the Battle of Endor. The Rebel Alliance leadership should have known that the plans to the second death star would not be that easily obtained. They should have jumped their primary Fleet to a nearby system and then sent reconnaissance vessels to scout the entire Endor system.. this way they could have avoided being boxed in during the battle. After all the only reason the Battle of Endor wasn't a disaster that ended the Rebellion was because the imperial capital ships were not permitted to engage the primary Rebel Fleet. Many of the most significant victories against the Empire during the Galactic Civil War had very little to do with Rebel ingenuity and almost everything to do with Imperial incompetence. Also, how would 3 Starhawk fare against a Resurgent class Star Destroyer?

    • @Warsie
      @Warsie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Rebels expected that there would be an Imperial Fleet there, note Han and co not being shocked at the Star Dreadnought guarding Death Star II. They didnt expect an ambush to occur. Also, the Reels did fight hard to get those plans, the same as they did to get the Death Star I plans. Also at least SOME of the Imperial Fleet was engaging the rebel ships in long-rang combat. The Ep 6 novelization mentions Liberty was in such a long-range duel when the Death Star II blew it up.

    • @mikevasquez1103
      @mikevasquez1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Terenin I know right? After all of that and with Admiral(IT'S A TRAP!) Ackbar still alive they should have known it was a trap. All of the best Minds in the rebel alliance we're at that meeting and it didn't occur to any of them that just maybe they were being set up for an ambush? That's just sad.

    • @WB1813
      @WB1813 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure they knew it was likely an ambush, although they obviously underestimated it, they just decided it was worth risking the ambush to potentially take out the Death Star II

    • @mikevasquez1103
      @mikevasquez1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WB1813 maybe. I suppose they could have acted rashly out of desperation. It's still kind of funny that if the Empire had spent all of the money they wasted on the two death stars on work programs and renewable energy. They could've Foster enough good will among their subjects that they would have made any Rebellion impossible because the public-at-large would not have supported it.

    • @sorrrbet4923
      @sorrrbet4923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were clueless about the ambush. Sure, they knew there would be a defence force around DS2, but they weren’t expecting a solid portion of the Imperial Fleet. They also thought they had the element of surprise, which they did not.
      We can see this in the first mission of Battlefront 2, where Iden Versio is aboard the Alliance Intelligence MC80 where she overhears Ackbar talk about it.
      On this same incursion, she deleted an intercepted, not-yet-decrypted message from an Imperial Commander, calling the fleet to the far side of Endor.

  • @brucejedilee5290
    @brucejedilee5290 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The Yuuzhan Vong vs the Covenant

  • @thebudgieadmiral5140
    @thebudgieadmiral5140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love how the Thrawn Pincer is basically a standard bubble camp in Eve Online.
    Also, your dog is lovely!

  • @effemmeralinattentive9797
    @effemmeralinattentive9797 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Crossing the T is actually a naval tactic that goes back to the age of sail! That's really cool that they implement it in the SW universe.

  • @Hibbidyhai
    @Hibbidyhai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Something I wish they would portray on screen: 3d combat. Other than some a few shots in Revenge of the Sith, all the capital ships duke it out on the same parallel plane, even if there are some ships flying above or below others. I want to see a Rebel fleet launching bombing runs perpendicular to an Imperial fleet, from above or below. Space combat should be in three dimensions, and not like they are a bunch of WW1/WW2 naval ships. Ships should be pointed every which way in 360 degrees on an x,y,z axis.

  • @ericengstrom2138
    @ericengstrom2138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This gave me some ideas for my next Armada game.
    Loving the videos about ships and naval combat.

  • @alexanderwedberg9491
    @alexanderwedberg9491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    5 worst concepts of the OT: 5 best concepts of the OT: 5 worst concepts of the PT: 5 best concepts of the PT: 5 worst concepts of the new trilogy: 5 best concepts of the new trilogy (these latter two to be done after episode 9).

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    FLAK guns for the win!!

  • @uniwaffle6190
    @uniwaffle6190 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    its almost as if you are trying to recruit us into the Republic by teaching us their tactics 😕

    • @manlyleonard9547
      @manlyleonard9547 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “I’m a Toydarian, mind tricks don’t work on me.”

    • @neofulcrum5013
      @neofulcrum5013 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For the Republic!

    • @crook7493
      @crook7493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uniwaffle 61 whats with the disappointed face?

  • @bobsbestfriend2356
    @bobsbestfriend2356 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Scarab (halo 2) vs scarab (halo 3) vs scarab (halo wars 2) vs kraken (halo 5)

  • @360patton
    @360patton 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making the battle breakdown videos. I've been saving them to favorites so that I may watch them again to prepare space battle scenarios in a Star Wars RP I am currently running with friends.
    Keep being awesome sir. Have a good one and may the Force be with you.

  • @Leo-hz2to
    @Leo-hz2to 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    But will this help me in Star wars Empire at war ? hmmm

    • @fristnamelastname5549
      @fristnamelastname5549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Leo When it comes down too in that game is Tactics, Strategy, and Galactic Conqust. The battles them selfs are mosh pits.

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And target the hardpoints, including engines. Use ion cannons a lot...

    • @totalwar1793
      @totalwar1793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, never attack an Imperial from the front

    • @Leo-hz2to
      @Leo-hz2to 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      totalwar179 Just spam them from the distance with a Marauder cruiser. Job done haha

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hypervelocity gun is always handy....

  • @voltadynam7cs705
    @voltadynam7cs705 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you said orbital bombardment, I got so happy!
    Also, precise orbital bombardments are better known as orbital strikes. :)
    Great video, keep it up!

  • @thegamephilosopher2214
    @thegamephilosopher2214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ackbar slash is basically Tralfagar with the British bold column move against the French navy that Lord Nelson used.
    A lot of these ship battles can reflect actual real life naval warfare at sea.

  • @interestedmeow
    @interestedmeow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see another discussion on this that takes the 3D nature of both a battle field and the weapons systems themselves.

  • @angelbeatzbell4057
    @angelbeatzbell4057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    70th Attempt:
    Yuuzhan Vong v. Reapers
    * This is actually the OG attempt number I was going for but it's now 130 haha
    * The tactics stuff is super cool Eck, keep it up

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is nice to know the basic. Great video your content is the best.

  • @hoovy2319
    @hoovy2319 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Ekharts, I’m part of a Star Wars DnD 5e group (because I’m a MEGA NERD) and I was in charge of a large fleet to fight the big baddies in the DMs story (a faction called the Neo Empire, a group of people that, after thousands of years after the fall of the empire, they liked the idea of it and brought it back) and I watched your video to prepare for the space battles. The DM doesn’t know much about how to properly conduct space battles (he’s used to the medievalness of normal DnD) but since I watched your videos on space battles and different tactics, I was able to deal with him throwing ships at us very easily. Thank you again

  • @jrodproductionstudios9587
    @jrodproductionstudios9587 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using this for republic at war’s galactic conquest! Very helpful, thank you!

  • @hackmcgraw
    @hackmcgraw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The basics: Just fling your ships at hyperspeed into the enemy capital ship first, and then you win!

    • @kingsway.183
      @kingsway.183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well that’s a one and one million chance holdo was lucky that the hyper speed ram worked

    • @myothurahtun4458
      @myothurahtun4458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingsway.183 I don’t think Holdo was trying to ram supremacy if it was one in million I think she was trying to escape

  • @geoffrey6554
    @geoffrey6554 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Let's test that on EaW!

    • @svenkeckes2070
      @svenkeckes2070 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yolodanstagueule If only your ships listened to your command.

    • @tallerstond8105
      @tallerstond8105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sven Kečkeš and not do some weird as turn behind so they can fire at your engines maneuver

  • @nickm.9317
    @nickm.9317 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great detailed info video about space battles, i love it!

  • @itzauthenticxd4218
    @itzauthenticxd4218 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Done Eckharts Ladder :D

  • @JacobBite
    @JacobBite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Notification squad assemble!

    • @bastardofinfamy7265
      @bastardofinfamy7265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pat Moon I wasn't even in the notification squad I just got here at the perfect time

    • @highground7923
      @highground7923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bastard of Infamy same

    • @itzauthenticxd4218
      @itzauthenticxd4218 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Notification 3 Standing by

    • @donnabird5627
      @donnabird5627 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Notification leader, this is notification two, standing by!

    • @highground7923
      @highground7923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josu Hernando idk

  • @jeremysolano398
    @jeremysolano398 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmmm,... What about if you covered "Space battle for Geonosis" from the Star Wars Jedi Starfighter game? The one with the Saboath faction cruisers and fighter squadrons? ?_? Please and thank you :D

  • @daelinzo1427
    @daelinzo1427 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS LOVE YOU MY DUDE.

  • @aaronrace7591
    @aaronrace7591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah Thrawns pincer is one of my favorite tactics to use in Sins mod and EAW. Another good video.

  • @tvanzyl3143
    @tvanzyl3143 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you do more ship/fleet vs episodes soon?

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could we please get a Halo Universe space combat basics video? Please!

  • @rebelfriend364
    @rebelfriend364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is super helpful for EAW btw. Been practicing in skirmish mode trying to get better.

  • @legolaven
    @legolaven 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wooo been excited for this one since the starfighter episode!

  • @rolfgrell4783
    @rolfgrell4783 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Make this a Galactic Versus episode:
    STAR WARS 2M Saber tank
    vs.
    HALO M820Skorpion tank
    vs.
    COMMAND AND CONQUER GDI Mammoth MK III
    I'd love to see which of theese tanks comes out on top.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best transforming fighter:
    VF-11 thunderbolt from Macross plus vs the Union Flag from Gundam 00 vs the Viking from StarCraft vs the mecha tengu from command and conquer vs the Legioss from Genesis Climber Mospeda.

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The VF-25

  • @ibelieveyouknowwhoiam5022
    @ibelieveyouknowwhoiam5022 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    All space warfare tactics Interest me heavily. Thank you for this video friend.

  • @davidvandervoort4945
    @davidvandervoort4945 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best series you have ever made keep it up

  • @Unikraken
    @Unikraken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Halo next plz

  • @imperialguardsman8088
    @imperialguardsman8088 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Capping the T”is actually a real naval tactic and was used very well in the Battle of Jutland during WWI by the British who forced the Germans to retreat and destroyed their surface capabilities

  • @markotik75
    @markotik75 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love your videos mate... cheers for every single one of them :-D

  • @rh352
    @rh352 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! I look forward to seeing more!

  • @ironheart9794
    @ironheart9794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Advanced Capital Ship Combat ? These holocrons are really usefull for me Im becoming a better admiral :D

  • @JacatackLP
    @JacatackLP 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5 ways force users are used in battle

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Badly, put in command (if incompetent), in a fighter, not at all, and brilliantly (but only in some Legends material).

  • @user-ko5nt4ym2l
    @user-ko5nt4ym2l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very interesting! Great video!

  • @typo_fenrir
    @typo_fenrir 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really diggin the tactics videos

  • @100_American_Bison
    @100_American_Bison 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Spartans vs N7 and UNSC Marines vs System Alliance Marines

    • @joshuakielty
      @joshuakielty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably Spartans, N7, Systems alliance marines then UNSC marines. Though if you included the Spectres they would be top

  • @clefton3112
    @clefton3112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My favourite combat is ship on ship

    • @JacatackLP
      @JacatackLP 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buttered Turtle I too share this kink

    • @douglasparkinson4123
      @douglasparkinson4123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is the five A-wings, 4 good pilots and one suicidal pilot Vs a SSD. And each A-WING only needs to make one run.

  • @cgm7454
    @cgm7454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite starwars TH-camr haven't watched anything in weeks except your vids
    Keep up the work(woul support ur paytryon) but got no money

  • @alexhergenhan7610
    @alexhergenhan7610 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice I love this series so much man keep it up :-)

  • @itsyaboidaniel2919
    @itsyaboidaniel2919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars Universe (All Eras and Races Combined)
    27th Attempt

  • @andrewsung7324
    @andrewsung7324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    on 3:45 what does the red indicate?

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Side firing arcs

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      EckhartsLadder
      A Video on my Birthday thank you Eckhart

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the range going to be a lot better than the Mega Star Destroyer's?

    • @LAV-III
      @LAV-III 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Bartsch happy birthday man

  • @srelma
    @srelma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A really hilarious video. You sound like actually seriously analysing tactics of ships that have been designed with maximum dramatic cinema effect in mind instead of actual military purpose.

  • @Herpaderp8354
    @Herpaderp8354 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another great video from Master Eck

  • @lieutenantnomad9198
    @lieutenantnomad9198 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing

    • @sugdolomar
      @sugdolomar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lieutenant Nomad E wing for the win.

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates3140 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Attempt 16: Please like and comment thank you 🙂
    2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer

  • @ferringrimes12
    @ferringrimes12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your analysis on the Battle of Caamas in SW legends would be cool. In particular Gar Stazi fighting retreat and how he achieved he's battle group or fleet to stay intact after and on how the Republic could possibly won the battle or prolonged it to a stalemate.

  • @CatastrophicMarauder
    @CatastrophicMarauder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video eck thanks again for doing your best

    • @Yoyle-jq9ul
      @Yoyle-jq9ul 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Catastrophic Marauder i agree :)

  • @radioactiverat8751
    @radioactiverat8751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized that space combat in Star Wars is likely influenced by real life Naval combat, but with more factors considering it's space.
    Capital ships in Star Wars are exactly like Battleships, heavy cruisers, and battle cruisers, having the most ship to ship firepower among all classes and are purely designed for this role (I know Star Wars capital ships have compliments of fighters, but we don't have that in real life but the concept still applies. Just mix Battleships and Carriers together). Although they have defensive capabilities against fighters and bombers, it's best to have them in a fleet so they are supported by smaller screen vessels, otherwise they're giant targets for fighter squadrons.
    A perfect example of a capital ship being overwhelmed by fighters because it was left unsupported is the sinking of the Yamato. Watch Potential History here th-cam.com/video/iJiOJxwjqYI/w-d-xo.html If you are interested in a bit of the history behind it and how it was sunk.
    In summary, it's like I said above, it was unsupported by carriers since the Japanese had all their carriers sunk in the battle of midway, and the Yamato was unable to fend off the fighters.
    So that comment you made where fighters can play a big hand in winning a battle is based around some real life fact. Sure Star destroyers are powerful ships that can bring entire systems to their knees, but without proper support elements I could see them being overwhelmed by fighters and bombers. Especially considering the blind spot they have to their rear.

    • @genericusername1993
      @genericusername1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the starfighters were used to portray planes used during naval battles.

    • @radioactiverat8751
      @radioactiverat8751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@genericusername1993 Probably, and much like in real life, AA fire isn't as effective as one might think when needed to defend against air attacks from fighters/bombers.
      I'm assuming to a degree thats the same in Star wars lore.

  • @jedimasteranakinskywalker1348
    @jedimasteranakinskywalker1348 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does the highground help?

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      no

    • @sugdolomar
      @sugdolomar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lord Anubis actually it can if you watch the jedi crash episode in the clone wars you see how effective 5 munificent frigates in high altitudes can be against 3 venators below them.

    • @wargearinternational7679
      @wargearinternational7679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since you can turn your ship easily a 180 with out an problems. So not really.

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      wargearinternational in space - yes, however in strong gravity wells and in atmosphere it can be impossible without crashing commanded vessel. Then having more altitude than enemy can have some effect, especially if your guns can point downwards while enemy can't point their guns upwards

  • @Amyyyy017
    @Amyyyy017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video about what you'd do if your in command of a blockade or attacking a blockade, and maybe make some scenarios.

  • @DTSephiroth
    @DTSephiroth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That outro, lol. Great video as always, I learned a lot.

  • @mackenziebeeney3764
    @mackenziebeeney3764 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Warhammer 40k basics of capital ship combat, please?

    • @lordfrostwind3151
      @lordfrostwind3151 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would probably require about a dozen videos because every faction fights so wildly different. But I would still love to see it.

  • @cominguponinfra-red3038
    @cominguponinfra-red3038 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (242nd try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

    • @cendiusmaximus
      @cendiusmaximus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      coming up on infra-red stop fucking LYING.You are not at the 242 try.

    • @cominguponinfra-red3038
      @cominguponinfra-red3038 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Darth Cendius Not lying pal

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Replicators are from Stargate.

    • @tvanzyl3143
      @tvanzyl3143 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How has he not seen your comment yet?

    • @CaptainSovereign
      @CaptainSovereign 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      pegasus or asgard galaxy replicator???

  • @pixelllls
    @pixelllls 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be doing this for all ship classes? This was by far the most interesting video in the Battle Breakdown series

  • @AudamGaming
    @AudamGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This kind of videos make me geek out so hard.

  • @muffintrooper6662
    @muffintrooper6662 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a question, how common are planetary shields in the Star Wars universe?

    • @wargearinternational7679
      @wargearinternational7679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Depends an the era. During the empire most core worlds an some military planets had them, so they were very common.

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've covered that somewhat here: th-cam.com/video/zYU-TO_TD1w/w-d-xo.html
      Most major planets would have several, smaller planets would sometimes have one.

    • @sambaker734
      @sambaker734 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MuffinTrooper 66
      It also really depends on what planet. Some planets couldn’t afford one. A place with a large population, or a place with a thriving industry, would most definitely have one.

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nar Shaddaa and Scarif had one, but it usually seems to be a Core World thing.

    • @tallerstond8105
      @tallerstond8105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris sonofPear or if it was like mon calamari

  • @duncanmcokiner4242
    @duncanmcokiner4242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Krogan vs Brutes [132nd ask]

    • @aaron989
      @aaron989 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Duncan McOkiner krogan all the way

  • @extraranzig9923
    @extraranzig9923 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video! More Tactics would be interesting

  • @dwilliams3101
    @dwilliams3101 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the series. Would you perhaps be interested in doing a breakdown on capital weapon types and their role? I'm thinking about things like the Providence with it's torpedo armaments, quad cannons, concussion missiles, etc.? Given different sources seem to have different uses for the weapons (proton torpedoes as anti-fighter compared to anti-capital ship)

  • @kevinwise1997
    @kevinwise1997 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What happened to you epic cinematic intro?

    • @thysquid2157
      @thysquid2157 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually prefer it not included to be honest...

  • @warwolf3005
    @warwolf3005 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Capping the T is not a SW tactic, but rather a typical fleet tactic from the first half of XXth century

  • @YoshioDodeca
    @YoshioDodeca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using Com Truise as background music instantly love the video

  • @jamescolebourn2547
    @jamescolebourn2547 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that the graphic you use behind your channel icon when just ambling over stuff includes a secutor. Been looking about for some good detailed stuff on it with fairly poor findings. Feel like doing a Vs between a secutor and an mc80 say? Both carriers with durable hills and anti capital ship weapons? Nice informative vid as well. Nice going Ecks

  • @AGS363
    @AGS363 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A "Capital Ship combat explained
    Warhammer 40K breakdown" would be nice.

  • @aurorathearcticwolf4243
    @aurorathearcticwolf4243 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its called CROSSING THE T.... NOT CAPPING THE T

  • @mrp1l0t32
    @mrp1l0t32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, another thing about the Akbar Slash. If you have ships in the middle of the enemy formation, they enemy will have to consider the possibility that one ship will miss its target and hit a friendly ship on the other side, especially if you are using smaller ships.

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. Regarding planetary shields and orbital bombardment, Thrawn really was a tactical and strategic genius. As evidenced by his used of cloaked ships positioned just inside planetary shields in order make it look like the ships outside the shield can fire right through it, which caused at least one world to surrender without a prolonged fight.

  • @TeamMaincraft
    @TeamMaincraft 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much, I will make sure I use these tips next time in world war 5

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a bad video.. Ought to do one about everything bigger then fighters but smaller then full fledged Capital Ships next if there are any tactics for those like how one would use a bunch of frigits, or cruisers, gunships, blockade runners and the like. Which would probably have a very diverse set of tactics as to whom your favorite targets are and who to avoid at all costs and the tactics to go about execution. Some my favorite types of videos here

  • @justme98316
    @justme98316 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Interdictor strategy. I thought of that one before I learned about Thrawn. Here are two more tactics I would love explore. 1) tractor beaming fighters. Pull the into a shield. Or at least disrupt them long enough for other fights to take them out. 2) reverse tractor. Push a ship or fighter away, or into an object or into a shield.

  • @JosiahSum1Wallis
    @JosiahSum1Wallis 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see breakdowns of the encounters from the new Thrawn books. with Thrawn Alliance coming out I think this would be really cool.

  • @radioflyer68911
    @radioflyer68911 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see a video on Space Battle Tactics. A sort of reenactment of various space battles as they would actually appear. Most of the space battles in the movies don't really give an indication of strategy, it's usually just short takes, chaos, a scrambled mess with no apparent strategy to speak of. If you did a mini series on a variety of space battle strategies that would be a first because no one has done that before.

  • @ilianivaylov3815
    @ilianivaylov3815 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't it be cool if Ecks talked about the poor tactics of the old republic during the battle of Serrocco? I think that would be an interesting scenario for a battle breakdown.

  • @shanagbaimuru3926
    @shanagbaimuru3926 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A version of this video for the UNSC/Covenant would be great. The madman's Keyes loop

  • @davisjosephpereiraumana4511
    @davisjosephpereiraumana4511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gotta take notes on this for my Star Wars manga... And recover the other notes I left at my dad's home.

  • @cr6877
    @cr6877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope video bro
    Carry on