For anyone seeing this way after the fact, Advanblack now sells a plug and play ST fairing, color matched to your bike, and ships with one of several mounting kits depending on your softail model.
Pro tip: when drilling the holes, get a strong magnet, wrap in a cloth rag, and have it directly under where you're drilling. This catches 99% of the shavings and the rag makes it so when you remove it from the magnet the shavings are captured. Old fabricator showed me this many years ago...
My dad, who was a Master Technical Engineer for over 50 years always used to say, "there is no hard job if you have the right tool." That new Fairing looks SO good on there. Nice work, John. Peace.
the amount of cost and labour that HD owners are willing to put up with to manually upgrade their bike to something that HD could have easily just made it as plug and play is amazing
I agree that HD should have some level of support for their base of customers. Knowing that it was those customers who were asking for a fairing in the first place. Harley heard and released the new ST. The dick move is not allowing other LRS owners access to the parts ie. Bags and Fairing.
having a vin lock on a bike that is the only one that offers a Fairing for the LRS is kinda dumb. The amount of money that could be made if all parts were available for LRS that the ST has is a big miss on HD part… Deopped the ball on that one.
I'm so excited for all the future content. We've seen Block's face, the shop has had its grand opening, and the opening party was bigger than anyone expected or could have hoped for. The work that's come out of the shop so far looks SO good. This footage about doing your own engineering is so cool.
I noticed that on my 2022 low rider s that those holes that you drilled in the beginning for the fairing bracket are already drilled on my frame but just covered up with removable plastic caps....interesting. 🤔 Should make bolting up the st fairing more simple in theory then.
@@JCunningham21 it is basically the ST frame without the fairing. It has all the holes that you need to bolt everything up. Makes me think I can easily mount everything
I ended up trading in my Dyna Low Rider S for an ST. While I do like the ST, I honestly wish I would have waited and just purchased the fairing from a dealership. Mistakes were made and lessons have been learned.
Nice work! I believe HD vin locking some of the parts will ultimately just fuel an aftermarket company to refine their designs. And likely at a lower cost to owners than buying straight from the MOCO.
And the difference for a non-speed freak like myself would be...I would not have that much money invested in my current bike, so, I would trade up for the ST. that being said, I love what you have done here. Maybe paint that fairing a gloss black with some kind of gold pinstripe????
Buried in HD forums there are people that have documented that type of conversion. I believe it was a batwing to shark change though. It was also pre Rushmore. Point being the parts can be ordered and at least previously did not have vin lock concerns. Good luck if you do it. The post I recall of it did this over a winter.
Nice! Just waiting for my OG risers and then doing swap, I have everything except risers, I went with 10.5 OG risers from hardcore cycles and going with FM handlebars. You got me stoked watching you do yours much respect.
Thanks a lot for that video. I will be fitting this fairing to my Softail DeLuxe 2012 soon. Just waiting inner fairing and main bracket to come. All other parts are waiting including Rockford.
Honestly dont beat yourself up about welding. Everyone starts somewhere! I think its awesome you are willing to learn, and not just learn but learn on camera most people dont have to balls to do that!
What about a shark nose fairing and touring style saddlebags on a softail? The DIY LRS to LRST is the popular fad du jour. I think a miniature “Road Glide” on a softail chassis would be sick!
I had just wanted the saddle bags for my 22 LRS, asked both my regular dealer as well as my "area" dealer and both said they weren't able to order them. Sucks they're VIN locked but I went with the S and not the ST for a reason.
You can put flux core paste and on the screw, screw it into the bold for mounting, and then weld it. That will help prevent you from damaging the threads.
Great video, I have the 2022 Low Rider S & it already has the pre drill holes as the one u drilled, does this mean that this Low rider s was manufactured this way so that we can install the ST fairing?
That looks amazing ,I think you guys can come up with a crazy mount better than drilling and welding honestly, some kind of a bracket that attached to the headlights bolts or the forks them self . I am going to start drawing one 😅
The 22+ lowrider s has the holes already for the support brackets the larger issue is that the upper support bracket 47200896 is not in fact vin locked I just ordered one and might order another to flip with the misconceptions of the holier than thou vin lock part you just have to know where to get it don’t bother in Cali I’ll tell you that much the dealers aren’t technically lying to you I have seen the vin restriction myself at the dealer but it can be had
@blockhead BLOCK. Do you know if this is plug and play on a '22 FXLRS? I bought mine right before they announced the FXLRST. My FXLRS seems to have plugs in the hole you had to drill. Edit: I just checked the frame on my bike and it has the upper holes drilled and plugged AND it has the lower holes drilled, tapped, and plugged. So, I'm like 99% certain that if you have a '22 and newer FXLRS, you can do this job without modifying the frame on your bike. You just have to acquire the parts.
ST fairing looks REALLY good ....in spite of all the problems. Definitely would be worth the cost to pay SOMEONE else !!! ( haha ) I lost count on the number of trips to ACE ! Looking forward to the ride video !!
Been trying to do this for my Sport Glide, but between the cost and the VIN lock issue, I'm not sure. Gotta do something though because the Harley options for a windscreen are too short. The after market Slipstream windshield I did get has the clutch cable wearing through on the left and it cut into the finish on my front brake master cylinder on the right.
After watching this video, and seeing all the "what's involved" and what it takes to mount the 2022 FXLR-ST Fairing [on a non-ST soft-tail], it has me believing that this was purposely designed/engineered/constructed to keep it as a FXLRST item only; hence some of the parts being VIN-Locked items. One might imagine that they [HD] must have presumed that many HD customers with non-ST's would/might want to install this Fairing on their non-ST bikes. Presuming one could obtain the parts, the Labor from a HD Dealer to install this would be, could be pretty expensive. Interested to know how how many hours of Labor you needed to accomplish this? Of course with a non-ST headlamp, that's additional time (and you mentioned to be covered on a future video). Thanks! Tom. M., So. Cal.
I am glad you are now "transparent" still waiting you to own the transmission top cover vent that you notched after the fact. All good .... I still love you guys... But I have to call it how I see it
Hey block where your welds may not be so pretty get yourself some body filler some Bondo cover the welds up with the Bondo smooth it out with some sandpaper and voila touched up with a little black spray paint you're good as gold
Hello Blockhead Crew. Im usually not a Fan of the ST Fairing, I like the oldschool fairing more. But the installation on your bike is awesome! I dont know why, but on your bike the ST fairing looks amazing. Maybe it fits more with the design lines. Im exited for more vids about. HELLYEAH from Germany Brothers and Sisters ⚡️🤟🐺⚡️
Yo Block’! Long time fan and am active duty Air Force. I’m recruiting in WV right now, but noticed your flag reppin the Air Force has our official logo, but is not the official flag like the other branches of the armed forces you have up surrounding your big beautiful American Flag. Can I send you an official USAF flag to replace that one? Just need the size- looks like a 3x5. Let me know and I’ll send you one, thanks man- keep up this awesome positivity and blessing of content for people to enjoy and learn from.
With that new fairing being such a nice, PLAIN black canvas, it BEGS for some GOLD! I'm thinkin' maybe some nice hand pinstriping, to bring Goldzilla to life...
I'm trying to figure out how this looks better than the sum of its parts. The S looks good as is and so does the ST but somehow this looks better than both? Maybe it's a combination of all the aftermarket parts and bag delete from the ST?
Where can you buy these saddle bags since Harley doesn’t even offer them for the LowRider ST. You have to buy 150 parts and make one at a price of $1500 each
Whole thing is wonderful. I really want this bike now lol. That mat black fairing is sweet! I wonder though if it would be better to get a 2022 Low Rider ST and just swap the tank to a bigger one? One of my gripes is actually that the tank is smaller and I like as much time between fill ups that I can get.
For anyone seeing this way after the fact, Advanblack now sells a plug and play ST fairing, color matched to your bike, and ships with one of several mounting kits depending on your softail model.
Pro tip: when drilling the holes, get a strong magnet, wrap in a cloth rag, and have it directly under where you're drilling. This catches 99% of the shavings and the rag makes it so when you remove it from the magnet the shavings are captured. Old fabricator showed me this many years ago...
Great tip! Totally doing that next time haha
Nice...I'm totally using this idea
Thanks for the tip!!
use a shop vacuum like everyone else...
My dad, who was a Master Technical Engineer for over 50 years always used to say, "there is no hard job if you have the right tool."
That new Fairing looks SO good on there. Nice work, John.
Peace.
the amount of cost and labour that HD owners are willing to put up with to manually upgrade their bike to something that HD could have easily just made it as plug and play is amazing
Harley did make it. But some people aren’t satisfied.
Ya the point was for you to buy a st.. not a s and upgrade later.. same thing car manufactures do with 3rd suv now.
I agree that HD should have some level of support for their base of customers. Knowing that it was those customers who were asking for a fairing in the first place. Harley heard and released the new ST. The dick move is not allowing other LRS owners access to the parts ie. Bags and Fairing.
having a vin lock on a bike that is the only one that offers a Fairing for the LRS is kinda dumb. The amount of money that could be made if all parts were available for LRS that the ST has is a big miss on HD part… Deopped the ball on that one.
Corporate Harley are a bunch of Scum bags. they dont want to make customizing easy. the fact they vin lock parts tells it all
I'm so excited for all the future content. We've seen Block's face, the shop has had its grand opening, and the opening party was bigger than anyone expected or could have hoped for. The work that's come out of the shop so far looks SO good. This footage about doing your own engineering is so cool.
Some of the assembly looked pretty easy. Like snap your fingers easy.
Thanks SpaceBass!
If you have the 22 LRS like me, the hole is already there!!! It’s plugged but it’s there!!
I noticed that on my 2022 low rider s that those holes that you drilled in the beginning for the fairing bracket are already drilled on my frame but just covered up with removable plastic caps....interesting. 🤔 Should make bolting up the st fairing more simple in theory then.
might it have the holes for the bracket that he had to weld on?
@@JCunningham21 it is basically the ST frame without the fairing. It has all the holes that you need to bolt everything up. Makes me think I can easily mount everything
@@JCunningham21 it appears so. No welding needed for the 22 low rider s it looks like
I ended up trading in my Dyna Low Rider S for an ST. While I do like the ST, I honestly wish I would have waited and just purchased the fairing from a dealership. Mistakes were made and lessons have been learned.
Just as an FYI, the ST fairing bolts up to the 2022 Low Rider S and I imagine it'll bolt up to future years as well. Great video!
I had to walk out and look at mine and I'll be damned. All the bolt holes are there and ready to use. Nice!!
Same on my 2023 all holes are there. Should be an easy install on 2022 and up
Nice work! I believe HD vin locking some of the parts will ultimately just fuel an aftermarket company to refine their designs. And likely at a lower cost to owners than buying straight from the MOCO.
Now a year later, Advanblack did it and released a kit for it.... MOCO makes some dumb decisions these days.
22 Lowrider S and the ST have the same frame, no drilling or fab work needed 👍🏼
I just love that everyone wants their bike to look like my bike.
And the difference for a non-speed freak like myself would be...I would not have that much money invested in my current bike, so, I would trade up for the ST. that being said, I love what you have done here. Maybe paint that fairing a gloss black with some kind of gold pinstripe????
Man we need 1 more video just like this for a roadking to roadglide conversion
Buried in HD forums there are people that have documented that type of conversion. I believe it was a batwing to shark change though. It was also pre Rushmore. Point being the parts can be ordered and at least previously did not have vin lock concerns. Good luck if you do it. The post I recall of it did this over a winter.
The ST fairing on the old Low Rider with that tank dash just looks fierce. The lines are so much better. Hope HD are watching this and taking note!
Nice! Just waiting for my OG risers and then doing swap, I have everything except risers, I went with 10.5 OG risers from hardcore cycles and going with FM handlebars. You got me stoked watching you do yours much respect.
Thanks a lot for that video. I will be fitting this fairing to my Softail DeLuxe 2012 soon. Just waiting inner fairing and main bracket to come. All other parts are waiting including Rockford.
Looks so much better without bags
Honestly dont beat yourself up about welding. Everyone starts somewhere! I think its awesome you are willing to learn, and not just learn but learn on camera most people dont have to balls to do that!
welding is an art form
1990 FXRP has this bracket on it my son has one... with the bolt going right through the frame... it is a factory install for police...
What about a shark nose fairing and touring style saddlebags on a softail? The DIY LRS to LRST is the popular fad du jour. I think a miniature “Road Glide” on a softail chassis would be sick!
I feel like the face reveal gave me a new wave of love for this yt channel!! keep it up brother
I just traded my street Bob for a lowrider st …. I loved the street Bob
That dash looks so much better
I had just wanted the saddle bags for my 22 LRS, asked both my regular dealer as well as my "area" dealer and both said they weren't able to order them. Sucks they're VIN locked but I went with the S and not the ST for a reason.
Get the Sport Glide bags, they aren't vin locked.
Advanblack now sells the support rails and standard length saddlebags for the FXLRS.
You can put flux core paste and on the screw, screw it into the bold for mounting, and then weld it. That will help prevent you from damaging the threads.
Great video, I have the 2022 Low Rider S & it already has the pre drill holes as the one u drilled, does this mean that this Low rider s was manufactured this way so that we can install the ST fairing?
like you guys were saying, I really like the lines from the tank up to the fairing. Love that you guys were able to get this done
That fairing looks amazing on Goldzilla!
That looks amazing ,I think you guys can come up with a crazy mount better than drilling and welding honestly, some kind of a bracket that attached to the headlights bolts or the forks them self . I am going to start drawing one 😅
Most likely, just not to the forks or the lower tree! Those things move when you turn and this is a frame mounted non-moving fairing
let me know when you do. thanks
The 22+ lowrider s has the holes already for the support brackets the larger issue is that the upper support bracket 47200896 is not in fact vin locked I just ordered one and might order another to flip with the misconceptions of the holier than thou vin lock part you just have to know where to get it don’t bother in Cali I’ll tell you that much the dealers aren’t technically lying to you I have seen the vin restriction myself at the dealer but it can be had
holy crap was watching your old videos on the 883 iron then figured I check out a current video your killing it man
Tol has a kit now with speakers and radio holes 👀
@blockhead BLOCK. Do you know if this is plug and play on a '22 FXLRS? I bought mine right before they announced the FXLRST. My FXLRS seems to have plugs in the hole you had to drill.
Edit: I just checked the frame on my bike and it has the upper holes drilled and plugged AND it has the lower holes drilled, tapped, and plugged. So, I'm like 99% certain that if you have a '22 and newer FXLRS, you can do this job without modifying the frame on your bike. You just have to acquire the parts.
ST fairing looks REALLY good ....in spite of all the problems. Definitely would be worth the cost to pay SOMEONE else !!! ( haha ) I lost count on the number of trips to ACE ! Looking forward to the ride video !!
Really like the 1st fairing u had on it
That looks great. And I agree that it looks better without the bags and with the current tank with tach and speedo.
Been trying to do this for my Sport Glide, but between the cost and the VIN lock issue, I'm not sure. Gotta do something though because the Harley options for a windscreen are too short. The after market Slipstream windshield I did get has the clutch cable wearing through on the left and it cut into the finish on my front brake master cylinder on the right.
Needs a little gold accent on the fairing when you paint it. Looks killer though.
After watching this video, and seeing all the "what's involved" and what it takes to mount the 2022 FXLR-ST Fairing [on a non-ST soft-tail], it has me believing that this was purposely designed/engineered/constructed to keep it as a FXLRST item only; hence some of the parts being VIN-Locked items.
One might imagine that they [HD] must have presumed that many HD customers with non-ST's would/might want to install this Fairing on their non-ST bikes. Presuming one could obtain the parts, the Labor from a HD Dealer to install this would be, could be pretty expensive. Interested to know how how many hours of Labor you needed to accomplish this? Of course with a non-ST headlamp, that's additional time (and you mentioned to be covered on a future video). Thanks! Tom. M., So. Cal.
I am glad you are now "transparent" still waiting you to own the transmission top cover vent that you notched after the fact. All good .... I still love you guys... But I have to call it how I see it
Damn Block Head ol boy got ya with the ol Bourbon street ”Bet I know where u got dem shoes”🤣
That was definitely a job for an air tool, followed by a TIG welder, not a MIG… really cool that you got that thing mounted though.
I assume this works with the Rockford inner fairing speaker?
I need to buy one of these fairings for my fxr
Those inserts are called “clip on nut plates”..good vid. Yrs more light would have helped us all see a bit better.
I'd love to put a 2017 fairing on my 2013 road glide custom.
Hey block where your welds may not be so pretty get yourself some body filler some Bondo cover the welds up with the Bondo smooth it out with some sandpaper and voila touched up with a little black spray paint you're good as gold
I love it I want to build one now but as u said vin locked parts it ain't gonna happen unfortunately 😔
such a beautiful freaking bike….
If your old Memphis needs a new home it’d look great on my CVO King.😂😂😂 Goldzilla looks great man!
Hello Blockhead Crew. Im usually not a Fan of the ST Fairing, I like the oldschool fairing more. But the installation on your bike is awesome! I dont know why, but on your bike the ST fairing looks amazing. Maybe it fits more with the design lines. Im exited for more vids about.
HELLYEAH from Germany Brothers and Sisters
⚡️🤟🐺⚡️
What's the total cost of this fairing?
Everytime I see you pull out the drill man… I remember you drilling your finger lol.
Love the channel Block. Keep up the great work!!
Oh damn, I forgot about that 😆
Is it cheaper to get this through Harley or is advance black the way to go
Why are all the bikes you’ve given away still in your shop ? Just curious. Really like your channel.
The footage is old. Blue and gold bike is gone and Sucker Punch is being shipped this week.
I'm curious if you will add anything like custom hand painted gold pin stripe to the fairing to make it match the rest of the bike.
Yup! Bike will be fully custom painted
Maybe next time you could use a Light when you’re recording. I couldn’t see a damn thing just taking your words 😂
Looks great on the bike. How much did it cost to do this?
I really like the new factory fairing however I’m not convinced it’s any better than Russ Weinermont’s offering.
How much would you estimate this conversion job would take?
Good info, I’m thinking of doing this to my 2016 softail slim
Can you make the Rockford Fosgate sound bar to work on the non ST?
When will the new shirts drop on the site?
Man that looks awesome! I would love to install this fairing on my 2021 HD Electra Glide. But i'd rather you guys do it! lol
Yo Block’! Long time fan and am active duty Air Force. I’m recruiting in WV right now, but noticed your flag reppin the Air Force has our official logo, but is not the official flag like the other branches of the armed forces you have up surrounding your big beautiful American Flag. Can I send you an official USAF flag to replace that one? Just need the size- looks like a 3x5. Let me know and I’ll send you one, thanks man- keep up this awesome positivity and blessing of content for people to enjoy and learn from.
Be nice if they any of these fairings fit the 19-22 FLHCS models 😢
Florida on Top ☝This guys a legacy 👌👏🙌
Looks good on there
Where you able to keep the mirrors flipped up side down with the st fairing?
With that new fairing being such a nice, PLAIN black canvas, it BEGS for some GOLD! I'm thinkin' maybe some nice hand pinstriping, to bring Goldzilla to life...
Bro... Please make your own fairing. That would be fire
Nice! What paint scheme is planned? Gold with the 80's scallops?
I'm trying to figure out how this looks better than the sum of its parts. The S looks good as is and so does the ST but somehow this looks better than both? Maybe it's a combination of all the aftermarket parts and bag delete from the ST?
Where can you buy these saddle bags since Harley doesn’t even offer them for the LowRider ST. You have to buy 150 parts and make one at a price of $1500 each
Advanblack makes bag support rails and standard length touring bags for the FXLRS and ST now. I think they fit a view other softail models as well.
Really enjoyable..... Signed up as a member now too. Contribute to your succes
And does the speaker system become plug and play or do you need to make up a wire it up?
Does that Fairing remind anyone of the Kawi 1000's from the late '70's, early '80's or is it just me?
Doesn’t RWD make a faring similar to this ? HD and the vin lock, what’s that all about ?
Are you gonna move the turn signal to that bracket? And are you gonna install the Rockford speakers??
Gonna look it up for my bike now
Did you source a headlight bezel?
How did the parts costs? That’s a lot of little pcs.
Very cool build !
Nice! Thought it would be more of a plug and play kinda idea lol. Seems like i've been proven otherwise, it's coming along nicely though!
I was wondering if you where I can get some hard bags for a 2022 lowrider s. Gunship gray.
Harley Davidson about to buy Blockhead Garage an make the head of Design & Develipment.
Looks good. Great job.
Whole thing is wonderful. I really want this bike now lol. That mat black fairing is sweet! I wonder though if it would be better to get a 2022 Low Rider ST and just swap the tank to a bigger one? One of my gripes is actually that the tank is smaller and I like as much time between fill ups that I can get.
Its 4.5 gallons. How much more do you need.
Looks good Block
better then the harley fairing,
Bike is looking sick, well done. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Wait,,, you gave away tow season bikes… but you still have them?
I Really like the rims, are they painted or they r goldplated?
Goldzilla ofc...
Sweet work!
awesome video as always BlockHead , always looking forward to the next video.all you guys and gals are freakin awesome!!👍
Absolutely beautiful love GOLDZILLA my dream bike is lowrider S or st but can't afford one yet but maybe oneday keep up the good work @Blockhead
Looks awesome!
Looks tough 💪🏼