I’ve studied Japanese for years as well as worked as a translator and interpreter, and I was shocked hear Seagal’s Japanese. I thought he was going to speak broken Japanese with an American accent, but his Language skills were actually legit. 😳
@@Hlebka met a lot of Westerners who lived here longer and spoke way less Japanese. Some can speak, but it’s rare that they speak at his level. Plus given how arrogant he usually is in his interviews,I wasn’t expecting him to be as good as he is so that gap in attitude and actual skill level surprised me.
I’ve been saying that for years! As a Japanese speaker myself, I was really impressed by his speaking abilities. He gets a lot of hate but you can’t fake speaking a language with great proficiency.
@@juniyananajukyu exactly! He definitely worked harder than most to get to that level. He definitely didn’t just stop at learning a few phrases and basic conversation like most people do. Definitely in the top 5-10% of foreigners that speak Japanese in my opinion.
His teacher simply said "we accepted the challenges" he didnt say ANYTHING about winning....lol re-watch this video a few times and nobody said anything about winning. The part of this video that said "he couldnt be broken" is easily misinterpreted as he won that fight. This video doesnt validate anything. Some schools took random challenges some didnt
@@phoenicianathletix2866 No needed, You have watched enough time for me and many others. Thank you for taking the time to do that for everyone. Yeah, it might be misinterpreted. The way you are talking like you know the outcome of those challenges. Do you?
When your a martial artists who "takes challenges" the outcome of the majority of your fights becomes your reputation. Not the facade or image your trying to portray. He chooses to speak "cryptic" about his encounters versus simply sayin "i defeated the top fighters from 8 of the 11 schools that challenged" like any other fighter would. It was a breathe of fresh air when he brought a style of fighting to the big screen that was not based on flashy kicks or need for a stuntman. People only question his victories because of him speaking on the legitimacy of other fighters.
But did you actually study and practice everyday? If you are determined and work hard then you'll be fluent. A lot of very determined people that I've seen become fluent or almost fluent in 3 years.
@@couchpotat1180 My ex wife was non-Japanese, most of my work was in English (as my client’s counter parties are always foreign) and I have many Japanese friends. So no, you are right: much of my time here was spent not practicing / speaking in a language other than Japanese.
Do you know the origin of the photo on 0:35? It is a very young Steven Seagal, but not with Hiroshi Isoyama but with Noriaki Inoue, O Sensei's nephew and pre war student... First notion of them meeting, especially as Inoue Sensei was known to be very seclusive and even Aikido journal founder Stanley Pranin had a tough task to be accepted and given interview..
Seagal became an Omoto (the religion of OSensei) believer after he married his first wife and got to know Naohi Deguchi who was the Spiritual Leader of Omoto at the time. She and Noriaki Inoue (also an Omoto believer) had a very close relationship as I understand it so that's probably how they met.
The Steven Seagal I met in Chicago years ago (before he was fat) was humble and polite verbally but his body language clearly told me how much better of a man he thought he was than I. Kind of eccentric but still cool...highly intelligent and very well spoken but has clear cut issues with needing to be the dominant male in any setting. I believe this is where most of his lies come into play. I even thought he was lying to me about some minor arbitrary thing at one point in a casual conversation. I do believe most of the bad stuff on the internet about him. It all reflects the common behavior of a person lacking self esteem, very evident in the man I met.
He is eccentric that's for sure. He is very accomplished in martial arts and found success in Hollywood but at the same time has some clear personality issues. Watching interviews with him he is frequently in a very disinterested mood, seems very distant, and sometimes comes off as very rude. He almost seems like he lacks social skills which sounds absurd given his life history, but that really is how he comes off sometimes.
@Real Aiglon lol! That is EXACTLY one of the moments that lead to me making that comment!! It came off as odd as it did rude. Another one he was being interviewed about an MMA fight and he took a call right in the middle of it and just turned his back on the interviewer. Just strange behavior you would expect out of some weirdo.
A number of the sensei's that Seagal associates with are also accused of being fakes in Japan and some of the claims that Stephen has made like training with Bruce Lee are impossible.
Correction, he is very inauthentic thats why he gets hate. Some of Segal's funniest lies are regarding his time with Bruce Lee, or his time with the CIA, or literally anytime on the casting couch.
@@eastafrika728 Who? Steven Seagal? If so. Yes. In his prime he was a big guy so I am sure he could hold his own against an untrained fighter. Against a trained fighter he would've been taken to the ground and brutalized.
Mr seagal is a true master of aikido he has respect and honour to his art of aikido and his sensei. Mr seagal would be the only American that decaded and trained with all the original aikido masters in Japan. I am a big fan of Mr seagal.
Except that some of the aikido masters seagal says he trained under, where long deceased at the time seagal has been quoted as training with them. Like his story of his son and Brandon Lee being the same age, that Bruce Lee learned from seagal and vice versa, seagal was 19 when Bruce died.... hardly time enough to be an aikido master, and his biggest lie.... that Brandon Lee's mum and sister rang seagal the day Brandon was shot on set, that seagal said they'll find a bullet in him. Both Brandon's mum and sister deny this and in fact deny ever meeting seagal.
I'm guessing it's around 2005 or 2006 because there's a few photos of Steven Seagal and Hiroshi Isoyama together at Steven Seagal's house around that time period, around 2008 Steven Seagal grew his goatee (which really needs to be shaved off)
Seagal was legit talented and humble back then. I really think that at some point mental illness screwed everything up. If you watch videos of him speaking over the years, he turns from this respectable man to someone who lacks social skills and self-awareness. I think people should keep that in mind before they ridicule him.
Convenient to just convert lot of these Aiki schools into Kore(an) Jiu Jitsu. Something real not too unreal, but I found their novel interest and research into this Aiki branch of what I call Hi-Energy MPA versus Hi-Impact MPA or Muay Thai and Kali very great and respectable as well. Imo, I found Japanese Karate as Low-Medium-Energy Hi-Impact MPA, meaning the Spirit is to use a little less to get the effect.
Even if, someone were try to alter the Field through Field of Activity for Karate to change it to Low-Energy MPA, it will nevertheless remain Low-Medium-Energy MPA. Meaning not possible on this.
You jerk, Kelly McGillis? You mean Kelly LeBrock but LeBrock never said that. She said that she was abused all her life but that doesn´t mean that it has anything to do with Seagal.
@@Katzenhase Salut. Thanks for correcting the name.. Kelly LeBrock made reference to Stephen beating her - up back in the 80s in a television interview. I didn't question the veracity of that particular statement at the time, but simply took it on its merit at the time relatively speaking to be honest. The man unmistakable is a hot - head unquestionably, and he is always running off at the mouth about chuck Norris or Van Damme.. If Mr big mouth was to run into the likes of Mike Tyson back in the day regardless of his aikido skills, and somebody like Mike Tyson made contact with his face or chin, it would certainly be lights out for Mr big mouth !
@@AztecUnshaven Tyson would have literally torn Seagal apart - there’s a reason there are no aikido MMA fighters. Seagal famously challenged a Judo master to try and choke him out - Seagal allegedly ended up passed out and actually shit himself. Seagal is famously full of shit.
One of the worst actors ever, recently. Look up all his films after 1998. He's pure ass. Any body can learn Japanese , but very few people walk around thinking they are the baddest thing to walk the earth. He kind of sounds like Trump nowadays.
1:56 "there's some people that are just borned with a certain amount of determination" -Steven seagal, the man who speaks fluent japanese but no one has heard him speak it 1996
don't embarass yourself kid, Seagall speak Japanese for dozens of years, multiple people heard him speak, mutiple times he was recorded and he is actually very very good at it
@@mangopastor I just told you there are videos of him speaking so the fk you talk about. And everyone who speak japanese will tell you his accent, grammar and vocabulary is very good. So do some research for a fkin change and cope harder
How much did he pay the old man to play along. Probably threatened the old chap if he didn't go along with the game. If only Seagull didnt lie so much. He has destroyed whatever credibility he ever had.
Isoyama sensei. He's been teaching aikido since the 60's. I see a lot of seagals aikido is based on techniques thaught by Isoyama sensei. Some variations other aikido sensei don't do.
It's pretty easy to sit at home and eat Twinkies and talk smack, I can promise you wouldn't last one Aikido class being taught by Steven Seagal... You had better be in excellent physical shape or else you won't survive it... I personally attended his Santa Barbara Aikido seminar in 1998 and it was an eye-opener.
@@TRANSPORTKING1988 I'm very happy for you. And you don't know me. But integrity is something he doesn't teach. And by the way, I'm in excellent physical shape and it's not from going to a gym, or rolling around with other men.
@@iandemontfort4276 Isoyama sensei has been teaching bodyguards and law enforcement units before you were ever born buddy. Seagal would slap you around with ease.
Your actions are representation of yourself. Love the videos of guys running at him, not buying it. Not a Buddhist. He’s nothing but self love. That is not Buddhism. Let it go your time is done. Except it.
The guy is absolutely full of himself. Alot people who've worked with him on films have all said the same thing. Either he's lying, or for reasons I don't know they are
@@TJ-fe7rr One of the most respected stunt men in hollywood says because Shihan Seagal made a little contact in his earliest films when he performed atemi waza in order to make the fight scenes appear more real, the stunt man community developed alot of animosity towards him so in retaliation they started a campaign of nefarious rumors in order to strike back at Seagal and hurt his reputation & his career. Like the made up story of Gene LaBell choking Seagal unconscious. Their efforts were very successful because human nature is to believe the worst gossip rather than the best truth. As for the female actresses accusations, those are a different subject. They may or may not be true.
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I’ve studied Japanese for years as well as worked as a translator and interpreter, and I was shocked hear Seagal’s Japanese. I thought he was going to speak broken Japanese with an American accent, but his Language skills were actually legit. 😳
He lived there for 17 years, what do you expect
@@Hlebka met a lot of Westerners who lived here longer and spoke way less Japanese. Some can speak, but it’s rare that they speak at his level. Plus given how arrogant he usually is in his interviews,I wasn’t expecting him to be as good as he is so that gap in attitude and actual skill level surprised me.
He once married his sensei's daughter and had two kids with her, who still live in Japan. That ought to make your Japanese very fluent.
I’ve been saying that for years! As a Japanese speaker myself, I was really impressed by his speaking abilities. He gets a lot of hate but you can’t fake speaking a language with great proficiency.
@@juniyananajukyu exactly! He definitely worked harder than most to get to that level. He definitely didn’t just stop at learning a few phrases and basic conversation like most people do. Definitely in the top 5-10% of foreigners that speak Japanese in my opinion.
His Sensei confirms that he saw Steven Seagal get challenged, fight and win, he says it in front of a camera.
One of the most important things in this video. Thank you.
His teacher simply said "we accepted the challenges" he didnt say ANYTHING about winning....lol
re-watch this video a few times and nobody said anything about winning.
The part of this video that said "he couldnt be broken" is easily misinterpreted as he won that fight. This video doesnt validate anything.
Some schools took random challenges some didnt
@@phoenicianathletix2866 No needed, You have watched enough time for me and many others. Thank you for taking the time to do that for everyone. Yeah, it might be misinterpreted. The way you are talking like you know the outcome of those challenges. Do you?
When your a martial artists who "takes challenges" the outcome of the majority of your fights becomes your reputation.
Not the facade or image your trying to portray. He chooses to speak "cryptic" about his encounters versus simply sayin "i defeated the top fighters from 8 of the 11 schools that challenged" like any other fighter would.
It was a breathe of fresh air when he brought a style of fighting to the big screen that was not based on flashy kicks or need for a stuntman.
People only question his victories because of him speaking on the legitimacy of other fighters.
@@unitedcomicsuniverseucu3697 uuit
A humble man is not weak
Before he was fat, I think Steven was really humble, but too much money makes for bad blood
Turns out the reason why he is "fat" is actually a side effect of the medication he takes for thyroid problems
Nah he's still humble, just not when he gets interviewed by some dumb Murica interviewers.
@@challenger516 what do you mean 🤔?
I think Seagal skipped the lesson 'humbleness'
he replaced it with adultery
Only commenting on his Japanese: it is excellent. I have lived in Japan fir nearly 20 years and mine is not necessarily better.
But did you actually study and practice everyday?
If you are determined and work hard then you'll be fluent.
A lot of very determined people that I've seen become fluent or almost fluent in 3 years.
@@couchpotat1180 My ex wife was non-Japanese, most of my work was in English (as my client’s counter parties are always foreign) and I have many Japanese friends. So no, you are right: much of my time here was spent not practicing / speaking in a language other than Japanese.
Do you know the origin of the photo on 0:35?
It is a very young Steven Seagal, but not with Hiroshi Isoyama but with Noriaki Inoue, O Sensei's nephew and pre war student... First notion of them meeting, especially as Inoue Sensei was known to be very seclusive and even Aikido journal founder Stanley Pranin had a tough task to be accepted and given interview..
Seagal became an Omoto (the religion of OSensei) believer after he married his first wife and got to know Naohi Deguchi who was the Spiritual Leader of Omoto at the time. She and Noriaki Inoue (also an Omoto believer) had a very close relationship as I understand it so that's probably how they met.
Thanks for pointing that out, He has a chapter in the book prewar masters that is one of the most interesting. That is some impressive company
As it turns out this is Seagal's father in law who looked remarkably like Inoue Noriaki.@@ticani2
The Steven Seagal I met in Chicago years ago (before he was fat) was humble and polite verbally but his body language clearly told me how much better of a man he thought he was than I. Kind of eccentric but still cool...highly intelligent and very well spoken but has clear cut issues with needing to be the dominant male in any setting. I believe this is where most of his lies come into play. I even thought he was lying to me about some minor arbitrary thing at one point in a casual conversation. I do believe most of the bad stuff on the internet about him. It all reflects the common behavior of a person lacking self esteem, very evident in the man I met.
Yah, he should of done Vairagya Yoga before flying or swimming to Japan for underwater breathing poses.
Did you train on the mats with him?
He is eccentric that's for sure. He is very accomplished in martial arts and found success in Hollywood but at the same time has some clear personality issues. Watching interviews with him he is frequently in a very disinterested mood, seems very distant, and sometimes comes off as very rude. He almost seems like he lacks social skills which sounds absurd given his life history, but that really is how he comes off sometimes.
@Real Aiglon lol! That is EXACTLY one of the moments that lead to me making that comment!! It came off as odd as it did rude. Another one he was being interviewed about an MMA fight and he took a call right in the middle of it and just turned his back on the interviewer. Just strange behavior you would expect out of some weirdo.
In Seagal's voice :
NOW MY NEW MASTER IS SENSEI Mc DONALD'S.
For anyone who said "he's a fraud fighter", you better watch this...
He's a fraud fighter with training*
Aikido is bullshit
@@botmexicanpatriotgo back to homoville
No one says he is a fraud fighter. You have to have actually fought to be a fighter of any kind
there are some people who are just borned with a certain amount of determination
It’s funny how a lot of people even in ufc think he’s a fake when plenty of senseis in japan knows him well
Sensei in Japan aren't practical nor they have entered ufc to get their bones broken
@@stockguruji2160 and?
True masters don't waste their time on silly activities such ufc
Ahahahah...a fake badass....
A number of the sensei's that Seagal associates with are also accused of being fakes in Japan and some of the claims that Stephen has made like training with Bruce Lee are impossible.
This guy is authentic but gets a lot of hate. I just hope he is living a straight life and making amends where he has gone wrong
Correction, he is very inauthentic thats why he gets hate. Some of Segal's funniest lies are regarding his time with Bruce Lee, or his time with the CIA, or literally anytime on the casting couch.
@@fidelmercado2621 Ron Balicki told me that Seagal really met Bruce Lee. Seagal didn´t lie on that.
@Tony very true, I have practiced jujitsu in my life, Steven's moves are very deadly in real life.
@@fidelmercado2621 a self centered person will talk like that, but in reality, can anyone fight him and win?
@@eastafrika728 Who? Steven Seagal? If so. Yes. In his prime he was a big guy so I am sure he could hold his own against an untrained fighter. Against a trained fighter he would've been taken to the ground and brutalized.
Mr seagal is a true master of aikido he has respect and honour to his art of aikido and his sensei. Mr seagal would be the only American that decaded and trained with all the original aikido masters in Japan. I am a big fan of Mr seagal.
Me too. I loved his martial art since Above The Law. Thank you.
@@mr.robinson7083 except he cant run, and looks like he has chicken legs when he does
Respect for him beyond his Aikido skills would be severely misplaced.
Except that some of the aikido masters seagal says he trained under, where long deceased at the time seagal has been quoted as training with them. Like his story of his son and Brandon Lee being the same age, that Bruce Lee learned from seagal and vice versa, seagal was 19 when Bruce died.... hardly time enough to be an aikido master, and his biggest lie.... that Brandon Lee's mum and sister rang seagal the day Brandon was shot on set, that seagal said they'll find a bullet in him. Both Brandon's mum and sister deny this and in fact deny ever meeting seagal.
I can't believe my Uncle was immensed!
Meu truta Steven seagal ✌️
A cordial welcome to anyone who wishes and believe to research in Aiki. Good luck ! Difficult meaning ?
Is that his business partner. They do look successful at selling things
Like selling a martial art that will likely get you killed if you try to use it on the street.
Nice video thanks!
Michi wa shugyo desu.
How old is this clip?
I'm guessing it's around 2005 or 2006 because there's a few photos of Steven Seagal and Hiroshi Isoyama together at Steven Seagal's house around that time period, around 2008 Steven Seagal grew his goatee (which really needs to be shaved off)
Wow that's the Photoshop on Seagal face for hus DVD movie cover 2:09
Ooooo Hiroshi
Wow vatslaya rasa ... greatest.
I found d him to be an excellent fighter in clips like this one before he tried the movies as an actor not so good
Seagal was legit talented and humble back then. I really think that at some point mental illness screwed everything up. If you watch videos of him speaking over the years, he turns from this respectable man to someone who lacks social skills and self-awareness. I think people should keep that in mind before they ridicule him.
What proof you have of this fanook you a psychologist
Yeah. I get it.
He's the real deal
Out for donuts, his new movie.
Hopefully it will do as well as his last one - "Hard to Digest"
🙌
日本語字幕をつけていただけないでしょうか？
普通に日本語で話してるんだけど
Convenient to just convert lot of these Aiki schools into Kore(an) Jiu Jitsu. Something real not too unreal, but I found their novel interest and research into this Aiki branch of what I call Hi-Energy MPA versus Hi-Impact MPA or Muay Thai and Kali very great and respectable as well. Imo, I found Japanese Karate as Low-Medium-Energy Hi-Impact MPA, meaning the Spirit is to use a little less to get the effect.
Even if, someone were try to alter the Field through Field of Activity for Karate to change it to Low-Energy MPA, it will nevertheless remain Low-Medium-Energy MPA. Meaning not possible on this.
It happens that be Aiki are Low-Impact MPA along with Arnis.
Сигал-настоящий японец!
Yes he is well trained in Aikido but he is an absolute fraud in every other aspect of his life as well a habitual liar.
I love Japan. Hai!
Am I the only one who thinks, that SS sounds like Donald Trump.
The best... Siegal
Did this developing of his physical self as he says apply to the beating up of Kelly mcgillis
You jerk, Kelly McGillis? You mean Kelly LeBrock but LeBrock never said that. She said that she was abused all her life but that doesn´t mean that it has anything to do with Seagal.
@@Katzenhase Salut. Thanks for correcting the name.. Kelly LeBrock made reference to Stephen beating her - up back in the 80s in a television interview. I didn't question the veracity of that particular statement at the time, but simply took it on its merit at the time relatively speaking to be honest. The man unmistakable is a hot - head unquestionably, and he is always running off at the mouth about chuck Norris or Van Damme.. If Mr big mouth was to run into the likes of Mike Tyson back in the day regardless of his aikido skills, and somebody like Mike Tyson made contact with his face or chin, it would certainly be lights out for Mr big mouth !
@@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp th-cam.com/video/BE5M1UTndcY/w-d-xo.html
@@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp Seagal has met Tyson plenty of times. Tyson knows well what Seagal is capable of.
@@AztecUnshaven Tyson would have literally torn Seagal apart - there’s a reason there are no aikido MMA fighters. Seagal famously challenged a Judo master to try and choke him out - Seagal allegedly ended up passed out and actually shit himself. Seagal is famously full of shit.
And where are those "Steven Seagal can't even speak Japanese" at? I'll wait....
👍🏾
SteVeN SeaGaL, 8th DaN, the Worlds Aikido Master, & Best Actor eveR,, 👌👌👌👌
7th Dan.... This is the highest ranking he achieved in Aikido
One of the worst actors ever, recently. Look up all his films after 1998. He's pure ass. Any body can learn Japanese , but very few people walk around thinking they are the baddest thing to walk the earth. He kind of sounds like Trump nowadays.
Go to school !
Satoku shiroshi si shioo
( seagull speaking japanese on stereo where available)
And the other old punk ashole : sa sa sa sasa sarasa sasa
1:56 "there's some people that are just borned with a certain amount of determination"
-Steven seagal, the man who speaks fluent japanese but no one has heard him speak it 1996
don't embarass yourself kid, Seagall speak Japanese for dozens of years, multiple people heard him speak, mutiple times he was recorded and he is actually very very good at it
@@Nickxxx85 i can't wait to tell everyone that a random stoner on youtube proved seagall spoke japanese because he told me he did
@@mangopastor I just told you there are videos of him speaking so the fk you talk about. And everyone who speak japanese will tell you his accent, grammar and vocabulary is very good. So do some research for a fkin change and cope harder
Great video, STEVEN, JESUS is the ONLY way to the FATHER(GOD). peace & love brother.
Believe me, Aiki energy techniques are most useful to whup Him or anyone whom wishes to blindly Crucify.
For his height and weight he dont have use akido bokido... on tiny students there..
Im fluent Japanese speaker and my mind is blown...
Al Franken would never call Steven an idiot to his face.
lmao his master lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Steve probably found this guy outside a noodle shop, and has him pretending to be some Japanese karate master. I wouldn't put anything past Steven.
Disrespectful as hell. Hiroshi Isoyama is a world class Aiki Budo and Judo master.
@@AztecUnshaven Then Hiroshi whatever the fuck should stop hanging around steven seagal, not my goddamn fault he cant keep better company.
@@concernedhomosapien9807 Yes, they should totally listen to a nameless keyboard warrior for advice lmao.
@@AztecUnshaven This was the funniest exchange ever 😂😂😂😂😂😂 y’all are funny as fuck!!
Hiroshi Isoyama is a fake . His reputation was built off of is family heritage of real masters and propping up other fake celebrities like Steven.
Yes steven, some people are just bornd
Seagull : sa sarasa sasasa kanga tepu satoko gua gua sa sasasasa
How much did he pay the old man to play along. Probably threatened the old chap if he didn't go along with the game. If only Seagull didnt lie so much. He has destroyed whatever credibility he ever had.
Isoyama sensei. He's been teaching aikido since the 60's. I see a lot of seagals aikido is based on techniques thaught by Isoyama sensei. Some variations other aikido sensei don't do.
It's pretty easy to sit at home and eat Twinkies and talk smack, I can promise you wouldn't last one Aikido class being taught by Steven Seagal... You had better be in excellent physical shape or else you won't survive it... I personally attended his Santa Barbara Aikido seminar in 1998 and it was an eye-opener.
@@TRANSPORTKING1988 I'm very happy for you. And you don't know me. But integrity is something he doesn't teach. And by the way, I'm in excellent physical shape and it's not from going to a gym, or rolling around with other men.
@@iandemontfort4276 Isoyama sensei has been teaching bodyguards and law enforcement units before you were ever born buddy. Seagal would slap you around with ease.
@@AztecUnshaven Life is whatever you wish to believe true. Be well regardless.
His master wasnt tht wise thn
yeah, some kid in the internet like you is wiser lmao
Your actions are representation of yourself. Love the videos of guys running at him, not buying it. Not a Buddhist. He’s nothing but self love. That is not Buddhism. Let it go your time is done. Except it.
The guy is absolutely full of himself. Alot people who've worked with him on films have all said the same thing. Either he's lying, or for reasons I don't know they are
@@TJ-fe7rr One of the most respected stunt men in hollywood says because Shihan Seagal made a little contact in his earliest films when he performed atemi waza in order to make the fight scenes appear more real, the stunt man community developed alot of animosity towards him so in retaliation they started a campaign of nefarious rumors in order to strike back at Seagal and hurt his reputation & his career. Like the made up story of Gene LaBell choking Seagal unconscious. Their efforts were very successful because human nature is to believe the worst gossip rather than the best truth.
As for the female actresses accusations, those are a different subject. They may or may not be true.
@@SoldierAndrew Well said indeed. Both Conrad Palmisano and Steven Lambert stated clearly that the Gene Lebell "chokeout" story was false.
Lmao the amount of people that beleive this bs
believe what exactly?
fake