Eclipse vs Roar vs Xata. Which is the best? Practically all of them (Warframe)

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  • @EdibleRockingChair
    @EdibleRockingChair 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    Finally, my opinion has arrived

    • @teo2216
      @teo2216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Datto viewer?

    • @Umbra_-
      @Umbra_- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      bro think hes datto

  • @Kringe6969
    @Kringe6969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Roar still a "win" since:
    - You can share with team
    - Newbie friendly
    - Buff all kind of damage (direct hit, DOT, ability damage/strength??? and emotional damage for your opponents, better with racist mods).
    - Basically, free racist mod and scale with racist mod 🗿
    - No skills? No problemo
    - Never gets old
    Edit: On Specific builds then you already saw how they perform on his vid. Roar is still the best on overall uses but it still feels a bit off when you doing raw damage or single targeting. Doesnt mean it's shjt. If you hate faction mods then roar itself is like a faction mod.

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      as i say on the video. 100% preference

    • @ManLikePolo
      @ManLikePolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I disagree with u Kringe… it all depends on the build your goin for. U running a dot build? Roar is your best friend, u wanna nuke tanky demolisher units in disruption? Xatas whisper is your go to. U wanna have insane raw dmg on your guns for eildolon hunting and other things? Eclipse is your best friend for that. Each dmg buff is unique and meant for different things. Using roar for everything would not be the efficient choice more of a lazy one and u would be reducing your dmg drastically depending on the content your playing.

    • @schwarzparker1
      @schwarzparker1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Roar best for sure people always forget this is an online game apparently

    • @Kringe6969
      @Kringe6969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ManLikePolo Lazy, but it gets the job done. I am more of a lazy guy here, so you do what's best, Imma just lazing around.

    • @andreanota5216
      @andreanota5216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you do a video on the fashion of your Wisp please? She looks insane 😍

  • @WispGraxx
    @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    4:38 to 6:32 is a skip. I wasted time for no reason and it was too late for me to go ahead and edit it. Also 12:14 is TL;DR

  • @1CrypticPhoenix
    @1CrypticPhoenix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I always overlooked Eclipse, but I love Glaives so I might just have to give it a shot. You're also the reason I'm currently crafting a Stahlta, so that'll benefit from it as well.
    Anyways, thanks as always for bestowing us with knowledge on things that make absolutely no sense without an explanation lol

  • @FX-27
    @FX-27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Cheers for the in depth descriptions for every ability and best uses Moug, would you consider doing a video specifically on all the different damage multipliers and how to go about modding different weapon types?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Already have one however its old. I might redo it and unlist old one

    • @FX-27
      @FX-27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx Cheers

  • @Wonback
    @Wonback 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    "This is just the Sthalta being broken" 🗿

    • @Kringe6969
      @Kringe6969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wonback based Mourg

  • @PTtheCornMan22
    @PTtheCornMan22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very recently watched your Stahlta video guide and left a comment asking how you are getting those absolute huge damage numbers. I did not realize that eclipse is better for multi CO instead of roar. I even switched your build a little bit to use HM because I was getting more out of that than not using HM. (Now I know why). Thank you for this video I am going to switch to eclipse and use what has quickly become my new favorite weapon in Warframe.

  • @sajflatter
    @sajflatter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Holy fuck, I was literally JUST looking for this before I went to sleep, just woke up and there is a video from you

    • @1CrypticPhoenix
      @1CrypticPhoenix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same lmao. The vid I saw on this topic last night was from before the Eclipse rework though so I'm glad to find an updated one from Moug himself

  • @imfurrytrash6769
    @imfurrytrash6769 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Got it so use roar because im too lazy to mod faction damage. Great explaining btw thank you

  • @1NumNum
    @1NumNum 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i love how this guy has perfect timing on vids when i needed stahta build video posted when i was wondering eclipse roar vs xata video posted 3 hours ago amazing

  • @Kevin-hd3fi
    @Kevin-hd3fi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Babe wake up, new Moug video

  • @zukas1234
    @zukas1234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    thanks bro this clarified buffs a lot

  • @wolfy_mc7304
    @wolfy_mc7304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i learn more from this dude than fromanybody

  • @silver_44
    @silver_44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Some frames don’t have a good recastable ability for shield gating, so eclipse is better than roar for that too

  • @theDevourerOfChaos
    @theDevourerOfChaos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Eclipse is good on wisp bc of DR buff makes wisp actuall tank
    Or specific situations like PT or Tridolons
    Roar most of time for any abbilty kind of frame
    Xata for single target like distruption or cascade

  • @knowvoid9958
    @knowvoid9958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Roar for ability damage and team buffing. Eclispe for flexibility of offense and defense.

  • @Enthree-Kaeyo
    @Enthree-Kaeyo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dude, I really thought that that was the dark souls 3 arena floor and NOT just the lua captura...LMAO that got me 😆

    • @Enthree-Kaeyo
      @Enthree-Kaeyo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good thumbnail 🥰😅

  • @Mars23223
    @Mars23223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Xatas whisper still bugged out for clients 2 years later. Cant get a headshot if your not host and eclipse disappears if you dash through enemies on operator since jade update

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it's not bugged whatsoever.

    • @Mars23223
      @Mars23223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Huh-0.1 now your spreading lies idk who you are trying to fool here it's been all over the fourms and in game. If you are client and you use xatas whisper the bubble will automatically proc on the feet and prevent headshots. If you are host and using mirage eclipse will reset if you dash through a group of enemies with your operator. Your white knigting is not helping de or yourself it's only hurting the game.

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mars23223 Thats crazy cuz i tried it yesterday and even today and it works, have you tried getting normal ping? Infact i went to simulacrum even now just for you kitten and it works perfectly fine. I think cope from your side. Nothing resets eclipse stays. Xata also works like it should, i think you can't aim propertly and blaming the game. What a suprise.

    • @Mars23223
      @Mars23223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Huh-0.1 This comment shows you didnt read a damn thing I said 😂 have a nice day

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mars23223 for real. I didn't read your nonsense yapping that's why it works fine for me. I agree.

  • @giles.9862
    @giles.9862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you my glorious king Moug - now I shall carry out your sacrilegious will, and use gloom on almost every single frame 👍

  • @OggerFN
    @OggerFN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Out of these three? Nourish

    • @Beam67
      @Beam67 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

    • @sobervision1049
      @sobervision1049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And Nourish doesnt Collide with damage buff skills when trying to subsume 🎉

  • @StayAtHomeEaglesFan
    @StayAtHomeEaglesFan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for another banger. Im learning so much daily from you bro. However at the start you say youll post a short list of guns with multiplicative CO, am i blind or is it not listed 😢.

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StayAtHomeEaglesFan you are right i forgor. Adding it now

    • @StayAtHomeEaglesFan
      @StayAtHomeEaglesFan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WispGraxx thank you!

  • @hachikuji_mayoi
    @hachikuji_mayoi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember getting downvoted on reddit for saying eclipse is better for direct damage lol

  • @mr.t3782
    @mr.t3782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great content 💪 so for Torid we use Roar? Keep it going 🧨

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yea except u use bane, then xata's whisper

  • @ericcaballero5228
    @ericcaballero5228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I needed this, videos on this were so outdated.

  • @justjack3236
    @justjack3236 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gr8 work, Ty for quality content fixing that bigger 'jupiters' who only count $ from clickbaits and shitty informations cuz ppl dont need/want verify cuz 'on video was like that'.

  • @Extusy
    @Extusy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ay thx bro much love nice to see u read my comment

  • @alaskarii007
    @alaskarii007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roar + the awesome toxin torid build you showcased + nezha + divine retribution = oops, ALL DED

  • @thelastupdate8633
    @thelastupdate8633 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for all the info, copied the Max damage no firerate Build from your vid, using it with gauss and arcane acceleration and i was thinking of replacing his 3rd, now I might go for eclipse instead of thermal sunder. One question tho, do you tap it or hold it to get the maximum bonus?
    Thank you for your videos and the infos in them😊

  • @allanjr808
    @allanjr808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would love to see a comparison with nourish

  • @shypony5820
    @shypony5820 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my boy even on wisp. HE KNEW MY PAIN

  • @rgvisi0n
    @rgvisi0n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thanks for vid
    1) It would be great if you showed what operator buffs you use. i think its sling strength but not sure, since it too fast....
    2) how do u use energy conversion on reservoirs and eclipse/roar at the same time 3:16 ?

  • @Yamao-Luvr
    @Yamao-Luvr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't know if you will still answer but that riven mod you have on Stahlta what does it provide?
    What i mean with that is what does it provide crit chance, crit dmg, or something else.

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Crit Chance, Crit Damage, Toxin, -Puncture

    • @Yamao-Luvr
      @Yamao-Luvr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @WispGraxx thanks for answering this quick. Now I gotta hope I can get 1 myself with crit chance/dmg. Ofc I first gotta look into riven mods bcs I don't own one and don't know how they work so.

  • @UNGGodYT
    @UNGGodYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a heads up, roar can be more effective in some frames or abilities that have damage even if it dont scale with power, on MHBlacky revenant video, he pointed that roar is affecting reave and causing it to do more damage even if the skill is % based, taking that in acount, i can confirm it also works as multiplier for Doom damage, both skills that do % based not direct damage.

    • @bulthaosen1169
      @bulthaosen1169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Roar is damage buff for everything. Eclipse is specifically weapon damage. If you want weapon damage Eclipse is the way to go. If you want DoT or ability damage go roar.

  • @SwampHydro
    @SwampHydro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    sir, i'd like to pay attention, but why does your wisp have 138 forma input?

  • @iamhugry
    @iamhugry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is an issue with xata where when epitaph procs xata you cant use corufell after 2 or so hits as the projectile dissapears into the void literally...Theres no damage like no number as if i missed them while being 2m in front

  • @flexmysss
    @flexmysss หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is multiplicative CO?
    Its like galva works differently on different guns? 😮
    UPD: I missed a list of multiplicative co guns in description my bad

  • @bigmemer4398
    @bigmemer4398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Roar affecting abilities is autowin in my book

    • @ShinySean69
      @ShinySean69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fax i use it on my wisp to buff the dmg of breach surge and it hits for like 130m sometimes

    • @ManLikePolo
      @ManLikePolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It depends on the build your goin for honestly if it’s primarily a weapons platform warframe and not a caster u don’t rlly needs strength if your guns are the main source of dmg

    • @ManLikePolo
      @ManLikePolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like eidolon hunting for example with volt it’s better to use eclipse on him because u need raw damage against eidolons and not dots yk

    • @asdf30111
      @asdf30111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShinySean69 still sad that it was changed to damage + 100 * multiplier * power strength up to 5m cap. The 5m cap was always there but it used to always scale with ability power, but now it won't if your hitting hard enough.

    • @BonkBomk
      @BonkBomk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wisps breach surge counts as weapon damage so eclipse is better​@@ShinySean69

  • @andreanota5216
    @andreanota5216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do a video or a screenshot of your fashion on Wisp please? It looks insane 😍

  • @shawki4447
    @shawki4447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what do you recommend for corrosive regulator dps mesa build? currently i have eclipse with 2 green shards for +4 corrosive stacks max for armor stripping

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@shawki4447 corrosive/heat regulators is what I go and roar is the best now if you dont use a bane mod. If you do use bane then go eclipse

    • @shawki4447
      @shawki4447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx thank you. i will switch it for sure

  • @lerosallyn9279
    @lerosallyn9279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man I have a serious question that has me so confused. I’ve seen you many times recommend Gun CO on AOE weapons. I tested the dmg out and it still doesn’t boost the AOE which makes me confused on why you use it on your guns? Do you rly have it just for the direct impact of the AOE shot and ignore that the AOE itself isn’t boosted? Or am I doing something wrong in my testing?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lerosallyn9279 yes on the stahlta i have it for the direct impact and not the AoE. Except for the ogris. Ogris simply benefits too much from status chance so its always worth to go galvanized aptitude

    • @lerosallyn9279
      @lerosallyn9279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx Ahhh okay so on smth like Kuva Zarr, don’t Gun CO. But Proboscis Cernos that uses status chance a lot, just Gun CO anyway

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lerosallyn9279 zarr has shotgun mode so...that depends

    • @lerosallyn9279
      @lerosallyn9279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Huh-0.1 I feel like you shouldn’t be using the shotgun mode considering you only have 10 ammo on the zarr

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lerosallyn9279 For single target it's way better tho so it just depends on the situation lol, like for demo in disruption you will use shotgun mode because it just deals way more damage to them

  • @ezgicelik4386
    @ezgicelik4386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i am a newbie and i dont have knowledge about mods.i was searching wisp builds and i found your channel. i really liked your explanations. can you do a kuva bramma build with wisp or any suggestions about it? ( i watch a few of your videos. if u did already i didnt know)

  • @toxicsneeze
    @toxicsneeze หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have u done any testing on jades weapon buff? Curious how it works....

    • @gbossman2
      @gbossman2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fun fact, it works on operator amps

  • @RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg
    @RoboMuskVsLizardZuckerberg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saryin, Xata Wisper, Soma
    trust me

  • @mahmod-_-
    @mahmod-_- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can do like rhino with eclipes (big boom)

  • @aidanc669
    @aidanc669 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So on my eclipse wisp. I should be running bane mods?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aidanc669 eclipse will do more damage than roar on a bane build yes

    • @aidanc669
      @aidanc669 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx I tired it out last night and 🤘🫡👍. You are 100% correct 🔥

  • @Keltorthegreat
    @Keltorthegreat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does roar still affect abilities because currently I'm using it on Dante and I can't even tell if it's actually increasing the ability damage

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Keltorthegreat it is dont worry. Roar affects everything. This video goes to the nitty gritty when it comes to weapons

  • @maninmathurintaha8808
    @maninmathurintaha8808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Since roar is easier to get an helminth of id say roar's better 🗿

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      TRUE

    • @silver_44
      @silver_44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maninmathurintaha8808 I just got mirage a few days ago. Getting eclipse is super easy and quick

  • @chriscrawfish8801
    @chriscrawfish8801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mr. Moug, im a returning glaive prime glazer and I found that it is no longer king, can i get a quick video about the cerata and/or xoris ? I trust you the most

  • @unwished8638
    @unwished8638 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know I should probably out this common on your Stahlta vid but oh well, for whatever reason I can’t really get it to be good. I do have a riven but I’m re-rolling it right now and using the Max Dmg-FR builds and it doesn’t look like how it does in the vid using the primary or secondary mode. I mean I was trying it in low level steel path without buff but I thought it should be able to preform better then it did

  • @yonsisac264
    @yonsisac264 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Xata whisper all the way, it makes my bullets go woosh woosh. That'd all I need.

  • @raitonookami569
    @raitonookami569 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what do you think about nourish with stahlta specifically

  • @russetduchess4363
    @russetduchess4363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, I wanna ask something, which of these would work best with the innate 700% stealth multiplier that frames that can go invisible get? Do you have advice on what would be best there?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@russetduchess4363 as far as i know the stealth multiplier is additive damage so all of them are pretty much same in that regard

  • @Cephalon_Nodens
    @Cephalon_Nodens 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Moug, why roar + mult CO is not the same as eclipse + mult CO in not DOT dmg? Isnt mult CO just straight up different final multiplier like eclipse? I rewatched that part about roar/eclipse few times, but I guess my english isnt good enough, or I am just too stupid to understand where is the difference

    • @Cephalon_Nodens
      @Cephalon_Nodens 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Btw kengineer in his 3 months old video (I mention that, because maybe I missed some patch) said after testing that eclipse buff is not multiplying additive gun CO part of damage, which would mean that on additive gun CO roar is a lot better, especially without bane in build

  • @jasontodd9564
    @jasontodd9564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Круто объяснил чел 👍

  • @Alexus00712
    @Alexus00712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why didn't you cover nourish too?

    • @Majtzy
      @Majtzy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can be of help. If you have reliable armor strip from anything other than your weapon (or latron incarnon strip) and your weapon benefits a ton from not wasting nod slots on elemental damage nourish is good to cover the viral procs. Also if your frame uses abilities often and needs the extra energy to spam shield gateing nourish is useful.

  • @NulKenos
    @NulKenos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Combine all these buffs in one frame.

  • @Zagiera
    @Zagiera 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You mentioned the synergy with eclipse on glaives and the plague kripath, so is the exodia contagion build with wisp still good?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Zagiera nope, outmatched by every glaive sadly but it can still be fun

    • @Zagiera
      @Zagiera 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WispGraxx i cri everytim

  • @kxiprendergxst9105
    @kxiprendergxst9105 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I might be being a bit dum rn but what is multico?

    • @gbossman2
      @gbossman2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Condition Overload (CO) is a melee mod that increases your damage depending on the number of status effects on an enemy. The Aptitude mods do this for your guns, so people call them CO or GunCO. Hitscan weapons apply this buff additively, but other weapons can apply it either additively or multiplicatively. The latter is a much larger damage boost, and the only way to know which one applies to your gun is to either test it yourself or check Moug's Google doc listing them all. The major difference when building is that you always want to use faction mods on additive CO guns, while on multiplicative guns you can use either faction mods or just a regular Serration

  • @ShadowKing-vs9cx
    @ShadowKing-vs9cx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im so confused people say eclipse is addative then theres other people say its multiplicative damage im so confused

  • @CaseyGray58
    @CaseyGray58 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think mobile does not do the same damage as console or pc, I have copied many builds but they never work exactly the same. My stahlta doesn't demolish everything like yours does and it makes me sad. For murmur stuff it falls off hard around lvl250 sp

  • @e4_blitz785
    @e4_blitz785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about Nourish?

  • @cuttda
    @cuttda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sorry I keep hearing this but I seriously don't understand. Why is it that endgame players don't use mods like serration? Im genuinely confused.

  • @proevilz
    @proevilz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro everytime u shoot there are like 100 numbers on the screen. How are you pinpointing the highest number every time with such ease in like a millisecond lol

    • @7bo7at7
      @7bo7at7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      probably 99% playtime lol

  • @Extusy
    @Extusy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m pretty sure if u use Garuda xatas can ad mor slashes and is also just very good with shotguns

  • @sdatohot4669
    @sdatohot4669 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    does xata whisper works on archons?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yep

  • @driftingmind388
    @driftingmind388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude how many forma do you have put into wisp 💀

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not enough!!!

  • @Trickily0
    @Trickily0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is no one talking about the 138 forma wisp 😭🙏🏼

  • @shinyukomusic
    @shinyukomusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Without even watching the video, I'm gonna go on a whim and say that Roar and Xata are the most consistent and reliable sources of damage, eclipse sometimes performing best when guns have multiplicative CO; Roar winning under most circumstances, and Xata being straight up broken with the correct synergies.
    Did I cook?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      nope, not exactly. But good try

    • @fran13r
      @fran13r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WispGraxx bro don't gaslight them, they're right on the money based on your tldr section lmfao

    • @v1k37
      @v1k37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      almost cooked... roar is good for ability damage and DOT setup, eclipse is good for multiplicative co and when dealing raw damage, xata is good for raw DMG when weapon has synergy with incarnon or headshot double dipping is needed. I explained in brief, I too haven't watched video.
      Did I cook enough?

    • @shinyukomusic
      @shinyukomusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@WispGraxxI see, after watching this video I was off the mark but it wasn't a bad guess I suppose. Interesting how Roar works best for DOT setups and both Eclipse and Roar work equally as well with Additive CO. Great video!

  • @DanielRomeroDiago
    @DanielRomeroDiago 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When is Fashion Frame video dropping? I want it so bad 🙏🙏🙏

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hopefully soon :p

  • @ProteoEuthismos
    @ProteoEuthismos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Giving this objetive: killing profit taker, using Chroma and staltha (a gun with multiplicative CO), the way to go is having a The Bane Mod and subsube Eclipse?
    But if i want to use Chroma + Zenith (aditive CO) the way to do it is with roar?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wouldn't subsume vex armor at all. On multi CO gun its better to keep it than use eclipse

    • @ProteoEuthismos
      @ProteoEuthismos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx I am dumb, i just realized that. Thanks. Just another question.
      The Sarin Sobek Acid Shells combo. The gun is hitscan, so we can assume is additive CO (i could not find this info on the sikia nor the googlesheet). In this case Bane mod + Roar is the way to go for max hell?

  • @grustniikot5279
    @grustniikot5279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You may've been asked this, but can you share your wisp fashion?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ye, i will make a fashion video about it soon enough

    • @grustniikot5279
      @grustniikot5279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WispGraxx Oh that's cool

  • @boomerbro6899
    @boomerbro6899 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you leave vigilante supplies rank 0

  • @meeowlord374
    @meeowlord374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what are the archon shards on your wisp? I know you use a health tanking build with adaptation so do you have armor on the shards?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      3 armor blue and 2 strength reds

  • @ridunkulous
    @ridunkulous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the church of CO effects

  • @Dubble17
    @Dubble17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey moag. Was wondering, I have a slash, cc and neg puncture. Is this a suitable riven to use on the stahlta?
    Only starting using it after watching your vids

  • @mauro2396
    @mauro2396 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i thought that CO was condition overload the first time i heard it... what it means so?

  • @loafofbread9400
    @loafofbread9400 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    new players will watch this and ask "i have an entirely dot build, what should i use????"

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dot=roar

    • @loafofbread9400
      @loafofbread9400 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Huh-0.1 "but i heard eclipse was better"

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@loafofbread9400 Roar boosts DoT damage, not only raw damage you deal so for DoT builds like...HM or Heat it's the best ability

    • @loafofbread9400
      @loafofbread9400 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Huh-0.1 yes i am jabbing fun at players who cant figure it out

    • @Huh-0.1
      @Huh-0.1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@loafofbread9400 mb king, hard to know with yt comments ykyk

  • @srliburax7342
    @srliburax7342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why dont you use archon stretch on wisp?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@srliburax7342 i dont use electric mote almost ever

    • @willkohnen7681
      @willkohnen7681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WispGraxxwhy?

  • @itsyaboiABG
    @itsyaboiABG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what shards are you using?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      3 Blue Armor, 2 Red Strength

  • @albertojanssen7942
    @albertojanssen7942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what does CO mean when you say multiplicative CO?

    • @ProteoEuthismos
      @ProteoEuthismos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Means "condition overload"

    • @beseakos
      @beseakos 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Multiplicative to other damage sources instead of being additive to serration.

  • @CrushedByAaAMountainOfBooks
    @CrushedByAaAMountainOfBooks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Posted it on the last community post soo If you see it here you don't need to answer the other one
    A question for you since this is your most recent post.
    Soo I got to thinking after seeing your video I only built wisp once and didn't really use her that much soo I tried using her on a sp disruption the Sanctum one on Deimos and surviving with shield gating is impossible for me because of how little energy I get at the start soo I am thinking of doing the health tanking and I just want to know what level can I survive with health tanking can I take it to longer missions(survival, interception and disruption) and let's say stay for like 2H
    Because building stacks with stahalta or any weapon with primary deadhead is HARD Because again low energy

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can easily go up to level 800 with health tanking wisp without ever using your 2. After that you really need to react with using 2 often or blinding a large area with 3

    • @CrushedByAaAMountainOfBooks
      @CrushedByAaAMountainOfBooks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx Nice soo it's going to be health tanking wisp then after level 1000+ It's second ability since I have hush on most of my wisp weapons I won't cancel right away and it'll be good
      Oh and for the ppl who are reading this and don't know second ability if you look right at the ground it will continue flying there in one place and you can kill them easier there

  • @FluffyWing07
    @FluffyWing07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Multiple CO vs. Additive CO, will you cover EVERY weapon that has built in CO? This would be very interesting topic because the game doesn't tell you which weapon has it
    Edit: or can you teach us how to test this ourself??

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      just look at the pastebin lol

    • @FluffyWing07
      @FluffyWing07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx pastebin?

    • @FluffyWing07
      @FluffyWing07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ty I found it

  • @Twzzy
    @Twzzy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:57 how do you calculate the 160%? Is it the faction mod(1,55) x roar (1,06) = 1,64x or how do u do it?

    • @fromretroville
      @fromretroville 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      faction mod (x1.55 = +55% ) + roar (+105% )= +160%

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      faction is 0,55+1,06 from roar so 1,61

    • @Twzzy
      @Twzzy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WispGraxx oh thank u both for the explanation, thought it's multiplicative 😅 it being additive makes it easy

  • @Spambot27374
    @Spambot27374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im surprised you didnt also go over vexx armor

    • @burksweitzer5687
      @burksweitzer5687 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can't be subsumed, whereas the 3 in the video can be applied to any frame so it's an option for anyone, but Vex is exclusive to chroma

  • @steviehimesama8140
    @steviehimesama8140 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what does C.O stands for?
    Cond Overload?

  • @jonathonspears7736
    @jonathonspears7736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So which one to use for Titania's Dex Pixia?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roar imo

  • @jovanreid7311
    @jovanreid7311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much is Rhino roar diminished before u subsume roar on Rhino at max level.

  • @g57p34
    @g57p34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what to use with AOE weapons like kuva bramma/torid

  • @Oblivion2808
    @Oblivion2808 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did that say 132 formas on wisp prime?

  • @tokeiachi
    @tokeiachi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so if CO is additive on a gun, should I use CO instead of serration on that gun? Assuming it can consistently apply at least 2 procs

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep, 0 serration on it because 2 stacks of aptitude=Serration. Its pointless to use both

  • @МинасУзбек
    @МинасУзбек 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is that animations set?

  • @21Sacramentz
    @21Sacramentz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eclipse ❤ High dmg / High dmg reduction

  • @eduardocat9740
    @eduardocat9740 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about wrathful advance? It should always be the choice for melee buffing above all the other options?

    • @PHNTM-dh4ff
      @PHNTM-dh4ff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well yeah, it's like 400% crit bonus with some strength. You just cast it and everything dies of red crits

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      depends what is your melee. Normal E spam with no DoT ye, if DoT focused then roar

  • @pants4722
    @pants4722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really liking the more in depth warframe content, FYI if I'm not mistaken the Manic Dreker Bombard has the most EHP that I'm aware of in the simulacrum if you're looking for a beefier enemy to test stuff on. thought I would tell you because some weapons are a bit hard to test when they just get oneshot

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good to know i'll go scan some ty

  • @aniimey
    @aniimey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is that mask ?

  • @mirzahamizan25
    @mirzahamizan25 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    poor heavy gunner always be the testing target

  • @TauMeleeSeeker
    @TauMeleeSeeker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    which weapons have multiplying CO?

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Description has the list

  • @fangedwolf4581
    @fangedwolf4581 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is Revenant with Eclipse? I am focusing on pure weapon dmg and no bane mods. Currently using Roar at 105%. I have all 3 of them in Helminth, just in case. Oh and i am using Torid so i am interested how Xata whispers works on beam weapons. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

  • @The_Geni
    @The_Geni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roar end of story also will you ever stop glazing the STAHLTA

    • @WispGraxx
      @WispGraxx  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no? you already know the answer to this question. Also no, roar is good for ability buffing and DoT. Nothing else

  • @XuXiao276
    @XuXiao276 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when is 200 forma on wisp vid dropping