For me its got to be Gotva Prime, this thing is such a classic refined for modern Warframe, in an odd fashion. It has no AOE capabilities yet it still feels great to use in exterminates captures etc.
The Gotva was one of the guns I instantly knew i'd enjoy. Very high fire rate, a nutty passive that made me build differently and more intruigingly for once, cool sounds and decent damage. Really fun gun
I'll have to agree, if there is a weapon that is super strong, but isn't op, it has to be the gotva, that gun is gwniuenly so fun and good for how basic it is, it actually felt like fresh air in a meta of aoe and abilities
Battacor and Stahlta are criminally underrated weapons, after getting really sick of having to charge incarnon on every gun I use I started playing around with older guns like these and they're disgusting. I can't believe how cheap the rivens are for some of these guns, its like everyone decided that if its not incarnon it goes in the dumpster now. I'd never hit the damage cap before but did it with Stahlta not long after I picked it up. I'm glad I found these too cuz while I do agree that the Kuva Ogris is nuts, it used to be my favorite gun in the game, it just doesn't feel the same to me after the ammo changes, I can't fuel that thing's ammo reqs to save my life anymore, makes me wana cry lol
Energized munitions is your friend but for sure its a lot harder to keep your ammo up. I think its the weapon that got hit the most in the ammo changes. For you I'd definitely suggest the tonkor and the tombfinger. Both devastating with minimal ammo consumption. Never run out of ammo with them (especially tombfinger)
I just miss the days where I didn't have to use my helminth slot to support the gun, I'll forever be salty about the ammo nerfs, idk why they did it only to replace it with infinite ammo incarnons that do the exact same thing they nerfed Bramma Zarr and Ogris for lmao.
I feel like discovering your channel has sent me down the rabbit hole of people that understand the fundamentals of the game. Would you mind considering build videos for these top 10 weapons? I think it'll follow up really well.
Maybe? The builds themselves that I use are in the description. I do occasionally make gun build videos and cover some of the more unique weapons. I feel like the meta weapons are all way to overdone and overexplained and therefore I do not need to add anything to that
I love how you told "play with you think its fun, because in the end its that what keep you playin'(without using this words)" i play with wraith ignis since the release and nothing throw me out of my burn devils weapon
Same here, I loved it since I first saw it without even knowing the stats, just the fact that you have infested arm cannon that has barrage of grenades as the alt fire was enough for me to go "yeah Imma leave evrything and farm that right now" and the fact that its actually good is just the icing on the cake also, DOT build for it is quite good with some frames
I've had my eye on the Sthalta ever since i came back from a hiatus after Plains dropped. Reading the description and I was sold when it said "railgun". Now im gonna make sure i farm out the parts for it soon!
Glad to see the Trumna again on a list. I don‘t see anybody using it but it‘s arcing projectiles are like oneshotting everything. My most used weapon now with 74k kills. Gonna try the stahlta again tho kow. Looks satisfying
I got the Trumna recently and I alternate between it and the Aceletra - I like the Aceltra better but it has serious ammo problems.I also really like Corinth Prime. I'm not really strong enough to do Steel path yet so haven't been able to get incarnon weapons (maybe one day lol).
Trunma is basically my all-time favorite - Put it on Chrom Prime with a Wyrm/Veriglas setup with Primary Frostbite (It basically is up 24/7) and the alt fire goes bonkers.
I used Torid years ago, when prime part farming used one key with endless rotations in the void towers.. (those were good times for prime farming) With it becoming incarnon, I’m using it 24/7 again! I hope we get more incarnons in future, such as the Supra and Dera Vandals. ❤
I got the battacor in sp circuit and I gotta say that it surprised me a lot. It was the default build, so I didn’t expect it to perform so well. Definitely gonna get it, after I get the incarnon for burston that is
Just came across your channel. I recently discovered the Latron Incarnon, and it INSTANTLY became a favorite gun of mine. Gotta admit tho, like the Latron i definitely overlooked a few of these weapons. Stahlta is a gun I loved when i first got it years ago. But then once i got other guns i kinda just forgot about it. Time to revisit some stuff lol
As a player returning to this game after 3 years i too thought that incarnon weapons were like hte main viable guns in the game and the rest were like old news lol, im glad to see thats not the case, im def gonna be looking into getting some of these weapons
im a returning player waiting for cross save to drop and seeing latron and burston prime, especially the burston prime, in a top 10 weapons list is just crazy to me.
I’ve had a good riven for the burston just lying around for years, grinding to get the incarnon asap. Seeing it on any list while it was just mastery fodder for years is such a massive win imo.
Man i have my tenet tetra not even min maxed and it surprises me how can still do the hardest content, at the same kill speed that my incarnon weapons do
It's just weird to go after someone's tier list. Every choice on his list is strong/meta in some shape or form, on a tier list about... strong/meta weapons... If the critique is that he should use more off-meta weapons, it's no longer a tier list about strong/meta weapons. If the critique is just that you don't like the choices on his list, then I don't get why the "roasting" is necessary when your list overlaps with his lol. Also, laughing at the damage output of the phantasma in his video when you're using rivens and eclipse in your video is a little rich. I will try some of these weapons out though, especially the battacor, I've been sleeping on it for sure.
I agree btw when it comes to the tenet/kuva weapons; I think the Tenet Tetra is absolutely insane and totally underrated. The only one I’d say really compares is the Tenet Arca Plasmor because it’s so good for so many builds and frames, but as for Assault Rifles, few can compare. It was one of my first weapons I formad like six times for my Mag Prime because with the augment it basically turns her bubble into an even bigger blender lol
Hey, after the video we watched I wanna get a Tetra, but im wishing to make exactly the same build Moug has done... What element did he got on his weapon? Heat Progenitor Warframe?
I’ve been currently using the Probocus cernos, with a build that uses the new radiation mods. So each shot procs viral, radiation, and corrosive. While also grouping, ccing, and killing enemies through floors and walls. It cannot use galv apitude so it doesn’t absolutely melt enemies like some weapons, but despite that its damage can ramp up pretty well. And all its other bonuses helps keep you alive in higher levels. Definitely pretty fun. But what you said about the stahlta has gotten me interested in trying it out. Since *some* “meta” builds are absolutely braindead, and ironically underperform to other options. But due to copium people act like what it can do hasn’t become outclassed due to power creep.
Proboscis main flaw is the ammo pool, they really should increase it since its not your typical explosive weapon to deserve that treatment, as it does take time to do its thing otherwise my top 5 favourite primaries for sure, the concept is one of the best ones
Alright, I’ve tried out the stahlta and yeah it rocks. Best way I can describe it is a middle ground between the boltor, the trumna, and the rubico. I definitely like just how unassuming it looks.
You've got to check out the Phage again! Absolutely insane weapon with many build capabilities. My go-to weapon for level-cap. With Mesa I'd deal around 2 billion damage per shot (after primed and armor strip)
No you are 100% right. The footage is just me using the guns and showing some of their capabilities. But in all the entries I use some kind of damage buffing ability depending on the gun itself. For example on Torid i used citrine with nourish so ofc in base SP it absolutely annihilates anything it touches. As i said this tierlist is how useful the weapons can be overall so warframe ability synergies should be taken into acc imo
I just got into SP and was looking at some weapons to use. This video was really helpful and I was surprised to see some weapons that aren't mentioned a lot by other youtubers lmao. I have a stahlta because back when I was lower MR a guy I was trading with just dropped the whole set on me, so it has a special place in my arsenal. About time I properly build it.
Whe i first started warframe i had no clue what to do, i was stuck with the braton for alot of the early game, that was until i watched a top guns in warframe, I real appreciate these kinds of vids to see what weapons i should work for.
I know this came out before gauss prime access but i'd say that acceltra prime deserves an honorable mention, it has one of the highest burst DPS in the game and if you build it right it can evaporate entire rooms full of high-level steelpath enemies in a few seconds with anything else collapsing to DoTs shortly after
I couldn't be happier that stahlta made it into the list, i love stahlta so much i have a riven with 100+ rolls in it, i think the only downside i can think of for stahlta is that we can't get the stahlta exclusive skin that changes the animations and reload sounds and firing sounds of it.
Hell yeah. I love my Stahlta especially with the busted Riven I got for it. The shock rifle skin effect reminds me so much of the BFG from DOOM that I had to nickname it that.
The Trumna combined with zephyr is an absolutely broken combo and I can’t say this enough. Using zephyr’s tornado you can easily charge the nuke as it just groups up all the enemies and shoot a couple of times then just obliterate the whole room with the alt. My personal favorite combo to play conjunction survivals and void cascades with.
Yo just got back into the game after not playing for about 4 years and in the honorable mention i see that u put the amprex. The amprex happens to be my absolute favorite weapon of all time in this game and i would love build recommendations for it or maybe even a guide or something cause i would love to use this weapon but im not the best at making builds and i haven't seen many newer videos on this weapon. But at least this was a fun video to watch and u got a new subscriber so keep up the good work. :)
I'm not a content creator, but after watching nightmares video after it released, I really wanted to make a video like this, showcasing some fun and off meta guns just because I feel like knightmares video was either very lazily made or he needs an incarnon crutch nowadays. Great video bud
@@Dubulclelet them feel accomplished by hating on something that's popular and clearly better,it's a pathetic attempt at fooling yourself that you're somehow better if you don't use what's good and popular but the weapons he showcased here aren't half bad,the ranking is skewed due to personal opinions but that's fine because it's his opinion
"Needs an incarnon crutch" is such a 7headGaymerMoment thing to say I can't even process it. What do you mean cruch, they're the cream of the crop weapons we have available, why would you consider using the best tool available, a crutch? Why would you consider making a list of "Top or Must-Have" primaries that, doesn't include the ACTUAL top weapons just because "they're too good". There's way too many guns in the "A tier" or that is the "This shit is fire and will function anywhere and everywhere but it just isn't cream of the crop aim at the floor kill the room crazy good" that people are bound to want their favorite staples to be S tier. They ain't.
I got tenet tetra siter tomorrow so Im lookin forward to gettin the weapon, overal My list if like : 1)Kuva Chakkhur - my first red crit headshot Ivara damage cap weapon 2)Kuva ogris - cos flames 3)Tenet arcan plasmor cos shotgun aoe 4)Kuva nukor - cos power of friendship kills enemy 5)Amprex cos aoe and goes brrrrr and kills corpus like nothin 6)Cerata - lvl cap toxin killer 7)Glaive prime - bleedin to death 8) Tenet Glaxion - freeze police 9)Cedo - Cos status matter 10)Probosis Cernos - hentai bow. Might change in future for now these are the most enjoyable for me.
Your the first TH-camr to mention the kuva ogris it’s my faviorte I have a riven and all because it really is the best aoe gun I always do the most dmg in lobbies because I kill everything so fast 🙌🙌
why did you go into operator form around 7:58 and void sling for a little bit? ive seen alot of ppl do this but i have no clue what theyre triggering and im curious. Thank you
Returning player here, after a few years of not playing. I got a decently cracked Stahlta riven, one similar to yours, just different numbers. I got it in 2 rolls, sadly no multishot. Glad to see the gun is still loved
Btw I don't think you should use wisp for weapons showcases. It looks weird when you say it has low fire rate, when you're getting a massive fire rate buff from wisp's reservoirs.
I personally love the Nagantaka for Mag specifically. Secondary fire into Magnetize. I haven't done angels of zariman or steel path yet so there's a lot of stuff I still can't access and don't have a lot of the best mods/arcanes etc but Nagantaka + Magnetize is just really good xD
You did phantasma so dirty at the start. I LOVE forcing crits on it with Sevagoth's shadow haze, and damage vulnerability is naturally insane for status proc damage (Shadow Haze crit also applies to it's secondary fire but I haven't played around with that much). Anything it kills is pretty much guaranteed to proc the cooldown reduction of manifold bond so your sentinel can cast guardian back to back. With that setup it often kills with RAW DAMAGE before status procs even get chance to tick once- I've hit several million damage numbers of upfront damage which, to me, is insane for phantasma. And with the new purple archon shards +electric damage I'm really excited to revisit electric phantasma for that exponential scaling with enemy density!
I really wanted to like phantasma. I had a riven for it and it just wasnt up to par with my other beam weapons. I invested too much into it and thats why I personally dont like it. If you have made it good and it works for you then obviously go ahead and use it. I just think other weapons are just stronger versions than it. Especially beam secondaries
@@WispGraxx I don't think any other beam weapon is capable of the sheer number of heat or electric procs that phantasma can output. Also since you like Tetra and Stahlta so much, what are your thoughts on Argonak? Aptitude is multiplicative on it's primary fire just like Battacor!
Thank you for ranking burston number 1 out of the new incarnons I dont think I've seen another youtube do so and it's been driving me crazy it is by far the best incarnon in the game
The intro to this video, and the video itself really pushes home one of the best parts of warframe and it’s community: There is no singular right answer. Anything works as long as you have fun with it. Yes, we will have ‘meta’ choices that are good, because nothing else compares. But then goofy weapons like the zymos exist. And few things are more satisfying, in my eyes, than watching chain head pops 😅
I got a riven for Mutalist Cernos that made it a crit shotgun bow. I clear Netracells with it with zero issues. I can get up to 500k damage per arrow with a 10 multishot. It's insane.
There are so many weapons that, if you put in the time and effort, become complete monsters (Buzlock cough cough), but incarnons are just so braindead, that using anything else is just not worth the effort. Really apreciate the video. The Stahlta completely flew under my radar :O
Just tried out stahlta on full crit + HM plus a good riven, it’s actually an all in one weapon with everything u need and will scale well into level cap if built right
i always have a blast using frost and arcane tempo(i know i dont need it but i like it), with incarnon strun, such lovely explosions like insane crit change and crit damage (like red crits with even 3 !) and a ton of status, combine it with the fact that frost has great survivability and strips armor, i just love it
I got the stahlta for free when epic game did its warframe thing and it’s been my favorite gun since, I added other guns like the trumna, tenet arca plasmid, and some other incarnons with are fun too.
Kuva Zarr, the build I currently have gets insane slash procs and high crit damage. On mirage with energized munitions, I create so many particles to the point I drop other peoples fps. I had a guy in my squad recently who had a 4070 TI; I dropped his fps from 300 to below 100 a couple times. I know this because he told me, oh and it is a flashbang when you spam it.
My favourite primary of all time is the Stradavar. It’s a pity that it’ll never get an incarnon. Thanks for giving me some ideas into other off-meta weapons! Got my sub L.
My riven isn’t that great. It’s a relic from days gone by, +elec.+damage, + CC. The negative is fire rate, but I never minded running fire rate on it. It felt nice, and didn’t affect the semi- mode. Maybe I should give it a few rolls to get something as godly as yours!
Just saw this vid mad respect for the Tenet Tetra. use to play it with a pretty nice riven and Mirage Xaku infused, with the Tetra Augment it make the bullet ricochet into the void sphere and that absolutely broken, just shooting straight with shit ton of MS spaying room and killing without even trying too BTW in my top 10 weapon even in 2050 it would still be the Mutalyst Cernos in the first place, never have that much fun playing a primary since discovering this one with split flight
I just went back to the Gotva Prime and was surprised I never noticed its description that says when a shot procs a status the next shot has a chance of being a "super crit". I'm going to stack more status chance and crit damage and see how it goes but so far at 80% status chance I'm seeing a lot of red crits!
Love my Kuva Tonkor, had a riven for it for a long time, until I rolled it quite godly (2k plat market value) - so yeah, has been my most used gun.. After the ammo changes to Kuva Bramma :D
I really really appreciate your opinion, because it's different from other people. For example I really liked the tenet tetra when I played it but then I saw some TH-camrs talking it down so I thought maybe it's not even that good, but I still played it for fun and it absolutely demolished most things. So yeah just make your own opinions guys don't hold yourself back because of some stupid video.
When i started Warframe at 2016 i found Tiberon. When i returned to Warframe in 2018 i got myself a Tiberon Prime with a riven. This week i returned to Warframe again and i still cant get Tiberon off my hands :D
Phantasma: "everybody loves this gun for no reason" D: there's a very good reason and it's because it's really funny to stack hundreds of heat procs per second. It kills everything without acolyte status caps easily.
What you do not say in this video is that the tenet tetra needs warframe buffs to be strong. You cannot use the tetra on just any warframe in high level content. It's fire rate is abysmal unless you mod for something like vile acceleration, especially with critical delay. You did say it needs prime and armor strip to be fair, but to be also fair the phenmor doesn't need prime or armor strip or warframe buffs to be strong. I built the tenet tetra because of this video, took a while to farm it and forma it, but I sure wish I'd done my homework more first. I'm glad I have it because it's a fun gun to use on my harrow but dang this video had me expecting something much better. Maybe it's just because I don't have a riven. Edit: On getting to know it better, the tenet tetra really is very good. Not the best but fun and worth using especially with the right progenitor. I suggest toxin.
For the Trumna or any weapons you want more fire rate with, reinforced bond on your companion is so nice, I always have it on any companion it's free 40% Fire rate
Do you have a kuva tonkor build w/o the riven? Also I dig how you get straight to the point in your video well after you roasted the hell out of knightmare🤣
The only thing that happened to number 7 is that number 1 was added to the game and then people stopped using number 1 in favor of other weapons and in the process they forgot about number 7.
I stopped watching all the popular Warframe creators. All have terrible builds & just click bait for views. Good to see some new fresh faces who actually know & share what is good.
Hey i know that guy at the start all he does is yap all the time
Grade A cooking
when do you think they will patch that?
@@darklord3861 oof...
@@bezovrinho was bound to happen
That made me laugh lmao
For me its got to be Gotva Prime, this thing is such a classic refined for modern Warframe, in an odd fashion. It has no AOE capabilities yet it still feels great to use in exterminates captures etc.
The Gotva was one of the guns I instantly knew i'd enjoy. Very high fire rate, a nutty passive that made me build differently and more intruigingly for once, cool sounds and decent damage. Really fun gun
Oh shid ur here
I'll have to agree, if there is a weapon that is super strong, but isn't op, it has to be the gotva, that gun is gwniuenly so fun and good for how basic it is, it actually felt like fresh air in a meta of aoe and abilities
@@WispGraxx you forgot the bubonico
NU = the goat
Been watching since 900, GGs on 40k
As a returning player from just after litches im time and rep gated from incarns super glad to see options to speed up my catch up
As a player who are always looking for off meta stuff to mess it the Battacor mention was a nice tip to look into it.
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Bro i never look at meta, i just play and enjoy
@@JOYOUS2003 ur the only nerd here
Please no, i wana keep my +160% critical chance+damage riven :(
@@destroyer99612a
Know how long I been looking for a video without incarnon weapons 💀
Okay, Stahlta has been sitting there. I've done Battacor and Trunma and this week is the time it shines.
Battacor and Stahlta are criminally underrated weapons, after getting really sick of having to charge incarnon on every gun I use I started playing around with older guns like these and they're disgusting. I can't believe how cheap the rivens are for some of these guns, its like everyone decided that if its not incarnon it goes in the dumpster now. I'd never hit the damage cap before but did it with Stahlta not long after I picked it up. I'm glad I found these too cuz while I do agree that the Kuva Ogris is nuts, it used to be my favorite gun in the game, it just doesn't feel the same to me after the ammo changes, I can't fuel that thing's ammo reqs to save my life anymore, makes me wana cry lol
Energized munitions is your friend but for sure its a lot harder to keep your ammo up. I think its the weapon that got hit the most in the ammo changes. For you I'd definitely suggest the tonkor and the tombfinger. Both devastating with minimal ammo consumption. Never run out of ammo with them (especially tombfinger)
I just miss the days where I didn't have to use my helminth slot to support the gun, I'll forever be salty about the ammo nerfs, idk why they did it only to replace it with infinite ammo incarnons that do the exact same thing they nerfed Bramma Zarr and Ogris for lmao.
not to mention riven disposition lol phantasma normal is as good if not better than prime because of it
Dude I want Tonkor and other stuff now let's gooooo dude Tonkor looks so fun
@@VivienneNGS DE making stupid decisions as always.
I feel like discovering your channel has sent me down the rabbit hole of people that understand the fundamentals of the game. Would you mind considering build videos for these top 10 weapons? I think it'll follow up really well.
Maybe? The builds themselves that I use are in the description. I do occasionally make gun build videos and cover some of the more unique weapons. I feel like the meta weapons are all way to overdone and overexplained and therefore I do not need to add anything to that
@@WispGraxx The images don't load in the links :/
I love how you told "play with you think its fun, because in the end its that what keep you playin'(without using this words)" i play with wraith ignis since the release and nothing throw me out of my burn devils weapon
I might have missed an hoborable mention but the exergis is also pretty great.
Really fun gun
I thought it was mediocre until I tried it, it completely slaps
Love videos like this that explore different stuff from what everyone else is doing. Subbed.
Bubonico is actually a warcrime with a galvanized setup and arcane. Probably one of my favorite weapons in the game overall.
Same here, I loved it since I first saw it without even knowing the stats, just the fact that you have infested arm cannon that has barrage of grenades as the alt fire was enough for me to go "yeah Imma leave evrything and farm that right now"
and the fact that its actually good is just the icing on the cake
also, DOT build for it is quite good with some frames
I got a riven for it but I honestly prefer the boar prime, I like just using a normal gun and not an arm cannon the size of my entire body lol.
@@jor8025 Very not based of you
@WispGraxx do you have a good bubonico end game build you can share?
@@ajjames1960 yes. Please share your build
I've had my eye on the Sthalta ever since i came back from a hiatus after Plains dropped. Reading the description and I was sold when it said "railgun". Now im gonna make sure i farm out the parts for it soon!
I love the Stahlta.
Glad to see the Trumna again on a list. I don‘t see anybody using it but it‘s arcing projectiles are like oneshotting everything. My most used weapon now with 74k kills. Gonna try the stahlta again tho kow. Looks satisfying
I like the trumna as well and I use it with zephyr it’s just too satisfying
I got the Trumna recently and I alternate between it and the Aceletra - I like the Aceltra better but it has serious ammo problems.I also really like Corinth Prime. I'm not really strong enough to do Steel path yet so haven't been able to get incarnon weapons (maybe one day lol).
Trumna is one of my go-to’s I have a nasty riven that gives it a 12x Crit multiplier.
Trunma is basically my all-time favorite - Put it on Chrom Prime with a Wyrm/Veriglas setup with Primary Frostbite (It basically is up 24/7) and the alt fire goes bonkers.
skeler W, finally not a NCS or avicii type bgm youtuber
been watching you for 2 days, learned a lot even in this short period - keep up
I used Torid years ago, when prime part farming used one key with endless rotations in the void towers.. (those were good times for prime farming)
With it becoming incarnon, I’m using it 24/7 again!
I hope we get more incarnons in future, such as the Supra and Dera Vandals. ❤
Holy shit I forgot about the dera
I want a skiajati melee incarnon ngl
Dera's is an monster, red crit galore specially with an riven
I got the battacor in sp circuit and I gotta say that it surprised me a lot. It was the default build, so I didn’t expect it to perform so well. Definitely gonna get it, after I get the incarnon for burston that is
Just came across your channel. I recently discovered the Latron Incarnon, and it INSTANTLY became a favorite gun of mine. Gotta admit tho, like the Latron i definitely overlooked a few of these weapons. Stahlta is a gun I loved when i first got it years ago. But then once i got other guns i kinda just forgot about it. Time to revisit some stuff lol
As a player returning to this game after 3 years i too thought that incarnon weapons were like hte main viable guns in the game and the rest were like old news lol, im glad to see thats not the case, im def gonna be looking into getting some of these weapons
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences! I'll look into some forgotten weapons again.
im a returning player waiting for cross save to drop and seeing latron and burston prime, especially the burston prime, in a top 10 weapons list is just crazy to me.
I’ve had a good riven for the burston just lying around for years, grinding to get the incarnon asap. Seeing it on any list while it was just mastery fodder for years is such a massive win imo.
I love that this list is so diverse and not all incarnons! Thank you for an awesome vid. ❤
Man i have my tenet tetra not even min maxed and it surprises me how can still do the hardest content, at the same kill speed that my incarnon weapons do
someone mentioned Kuva Quartakk, let's go!
It's just weird to go after someone's tier list. Every choice on his list is strong/meta in some shape or form, on a tier list about... strong/meta weapons...
If the critique is that he should use more off-meta weapons, it's no longer a tier list about strong/meta weapons. If the critique is just that you don't like the choices on his list, then I don't get why the "roasting" is necessary when your list overlaps with his lol.
Also, laughing at the damage output of the phantasma in his video when you're using rivens and eclipse in your video is a little rich.
I will try some of these weapons out though, especially the battacor, I've been sleeping on it for sure.
That's not what the videos was about though. More so just good weapons he likes.
I agree btw when it comes to the tenet/kuva weapons; I think the Tenet Tetra is absolutely insane and totally underrated. The only one I’d say really compares is the Tenet Arca Plasmor because it’s so good for so many builds and frames, but as for Assault Rifles, few can compare.
It was one of my first weapons I formad like six times for my Mag Prime because with the augment it basically turns her bubble into an even bigger blender lol
Hey, after the video we watched I wanna get a Tetra, but im wishing to make exactly the same build Moug has done... What element did he got on his weapon? Heat Progenitor Warframe?
@@HenryQuew I’m not sure he didn’t quite say but either heat, toxin or elec is good
Finally something other than Incarnons. Thank you!
Glad to see a tier list that isn't a copy paste of the incarnon weapon list from warframe wiki, nice tier list
I’ve been currently using the Probocus cernos, with a build that uses the new radiation mods. So each shot procs viral, radiation, and corrosive. While also grouping, ccing, and killing enemies through floors and walls.
It cannot use galv apitude so it doesn’t absolutely melt enemies like some weapons, but despite that its damage can ramp up pretty well. And all its other bonuses helps keep you alive in higher levels. Definitely pretty fun.
But what you said about the stahlta has gotten me interested in trying it out. Since *some* “meta” builds are absolutely braindead, and ironically underperform to other options. But due to copium people act like what it can do hasn’t become outclassed due to power creep.
I have some setups for proboscis cernos and i think its amazing. The biggest downside of the gun unironically is that it kills your FPS 😂
Proboscis main flaw is the ammo pool, they really should increase it since its not your typical explosive weapon to deserve that treatment, as it does take time to do its thing
otherwise my top 5 favourite primaries for sure, the concept is one of the best ones
Alright, I’ve tried out the stahlta and yeah it rocks. Best way I can describe it is a middle ground between the boltor, the trumna, and the rubico. I definitely like just how unassuming it looks.
Really appreciate you having interesting picks and leaving all the builds in the description 🙏.
You've got to check out the Phage again! Absolutely insane weapon with many build capabilities. My go-to weapon for level-cap. With Mesa I'd deal around 2 billion damage per shot (after primed and armor strip)
I know the phage is insane, I even have a riven for it. Add some punch through and you are goated
Haha love how we off-metaers have converged to the same conclusion. I love Phage on my Nidus as well.
I think i found my fav warframe channel, you also have an obsession with the stahlta just like me
I don't want to be that guy but showing weapon damage with eclipse being on will be way better. C:
No you are 100% right. The footage is just me using the guns and showing some of their capabilities. But in all the entries I use some kind of damage buffing ability depending on the gun itself. For example on Torid i used citrine with nourish so ofc in base SP it absolutely annihilates anything it touches. As i said this tierlist is how useful the weapons can be overall so warframe ability synergies should be taken into acc imo
you know the list gonna be good when it comes from a underrated warframe youtuber
I felt like i got sold the Kuva Ogris in the most satisfying and convincing way possible, amazing words
I just got into SP and was looking at some weapons to use. This video was really helpful and I was surprised to see some weapons that aren't mentioned a lot by other youtubers lmao. I have a stahlta because back when I was lower MR a guy I was trading with just dropped the whole set on me, so it has a special place in my arsenal. About time I properly build it.
This man made me so grateful to get a stahlta riven as one of the first few I unveiled
Fellow stahlta enjoyer lets go! I didn't know other people even knew it existed
Whe i first started warframe i had no clue what to do, i was stuck with the braton for alot of the early game, that was until i watched a top guns in warframe, I real appreciate these kinds of vids to see what weapons i should work for.
I know this came out before gauss prime access but i'd say that acceltra prime deserves an honorable mention, it has one of the highest burst DPS in the game and if you build it right it can evaporate entire rooms full of high-level steelpath enemies in a few seconds with anything else collapsing to DoTs shortly after
Hey can u plz share u build ?
I couldn't be happier that stahlta made it into the list, i love stahlta so much i have a riven with 100+ rolls in it, i think the only downside i can think of for stahlta is that we can't get the stahlta exclusive skin that changes the animations and reload sounds and firing sounds of it.
Except we did with the Stahlta shock rifle skin but its not available anymore 😭
Hell yeah. I love my Stahlta especially with the busted Riven I got for it. The shock rifle skin effect reminds me so much of the BFG from DOOM that I had to nickname it that.
Are unreal engine tournaments skin back?
@@YuiichiiroNo😢
@@MyDemon32 its been almost 2 years, let's hope for the best.
The Trumna combined with zephyr is an absolutely broken combo and I can’t say this enough. Using zephyr’s tornado you can easily charge the nuke as it just groups up all the enemies and shoot a couple of times then just obliterate the whole room with the alt. My personal favorite combo to play conjunction survivals and void cascades with.
Yo just got back into the game after not playing for about 4 years and in the honorable mention i see that u put the amprex. The amprex happens to be my absolute favorite weapon of all time in this game and i would love build recommendations for it or maybe even a guide or something cause i would love to use this weapon but im not the best at making builds and i haven't seen many newer videos on this weapon. But at least this was a fun video to watch and u got a new subscriber so keep up the good work. :)
Good list, bro. Working on some of them. Appreciate it
I'm not a content creator, but after watching nightmares video after it released, I really wanted to make a video like this, showcasing some fun and off meta guns just because I feel like knightmares video was either very lazily made or he needs an incarnon crutch nowadays. Great video bud
Completely agree. For saying hes usually quite creative it was a very weak video
@@Dubulclelet them feel accomplished by hating on something that's popular and clearly better,it's a pathetic attempt at fooling yourself that you're somehow better if you don't use what's good and popular but the weapons he showcased here aren't half bad,the ranking is skewed due to personal opinions but that's fine because it's his opinion
"Needs an incarnon crutch" is such a 7headGaymerMoment thing to say I can't even process it.
What do you mean cruch, they're the cream of the crop weapons we have available, why would you consider using the best tool available, a crutch? Why would you consider making a list of "Top or Must-Have" primaries that, doesn't include the ACTUAL top weapons just because "they're too good".
There's way too many guns in the "A tier" or that is the "This shit is fire and will function anywhere and everywhere but it just isn't cream of the crop aim at the floor kill the room crazy good" that people are bound to want their favorite staples to be S tier. They ain't.
I mean the video did say must have
Apparently yall can't read
I got tenet tetra siter tomorrow so Im lookin forward to gettin the weapon, overal My list if like :
1)Kuva Chakkhur - my first red crit headshot Ivara damage cap weapon
2)Kuva ogris - cos flames
3)Tenet arcan plasmor cos shotgun aoe
4)Kuva nukor - cos power of friendship kills enemy
5)Amprex cos aoe and goes brrrrr and kills corpus like nothin
6)Cerata - lvl cap toxin killer
7)Glaive prime - bleedin to death
8) Tenet Glaxion - freeze police
9)Cedo - Cos status matter
10)Probosis Cernos - hentai bow.
Might change in future for now these are the most enjoyable for me.
Your the first TH-camr to mention the kuva ogris it’s my faviorte I have a riven and all because it really is the best aoe gun I always do the most dmg in lobbies because I kill everything so fast 🙌🙌
Kuva Ogris the GOAT
why did you go into operator form around 7:58 and void sling for a little bit? ive seen alot of ppl do this but i have no clue what theyre triggering and im curious. Thank you
Madurai has a passive that gives u 40% ability strength if you void sling twice in operator
@@WispGraxx thank you for answering 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Enjoyed the Stahlta so much when it first came out. Glad it's at No.1 spot. Also, I just got a riven for it
Returning player here, after a few years of not playing. I got a decently cracked Stahlta riven, one similar to yours, just different numbers. I got it in 2 rolls, sadly no multishot. Glad to see the gun is still loved
Warframe TH-camrs/players try not diss each other challenge 😮
Difficulty:impossible
Btw I don't think you should use wisp for weapons showcases. It looks weird when you say it has low fire rate, when you're getting a massive fire rate buff from wisp's reservoirs.
8:13 as a fellow Battacor enjoyer i back up and say that this weapon is AMAZING, and severily underrated it´s criminal
I personally love the Nagantaka for Mag specifically. Secondary fire into Magnetize.
I haven't done angels of zariman or steel path yet so there's a lot of stuff I still can't access and don't have a lot of the best mods/arcanes etc but Nagantaka + Magnetize is just really good xD
You did phantasma so dirty at the start. I LOVE forcing crits on it with Sevagoth's shadow haze, and damage vulnerability is naturally insane for status proc damage (Shadow Haze crit also applies to it's secondary fire but I haven't played around with that much).
Anything it kills is pretty much guaranteed to proc the cooldown reduction of manifold bond so your sentinel can cast guardian back to back.
With that setup it often kills with RAW DAMAGE before status procs even get chance to tick once- I've hit several million damage numbers of upfront damage which, to me, is insane for phantasma. And with the new purple archon shards +electric damage I'm really excited to revisit electric phantasma for that exponential scaling with enemy density!
I really wanted to like phantasma. I had a riven for it and it just wasnt up to par with my other beam weapons. I invested too much into it and thats why I personally dont like it. If you have made it good and it works for you then obviously go ahead and use it. I just think other weapons are just stronger versions than it. Especially beam secondaries
@@WispGraxx I don't think any other beam weapon is capable of the sheer number of heat or electric procs that phantasma can output. Also since you like Tetra and Stahlta so much, what are your thoughts on Argonak? Aptitude is multiplicative on it's primary fire just like Battacor!
Thank you for ranking burston number 1 out of the new incarnons I dont think I've seen another youtube do so and it's been driving me crazy it is by far the best incarnon in the game
The exergis and the caustacyst have a special place in my heart
Great list and very informative content, keep it up bro!
The intro to this video, and the video itself really pushes home one of the best parts of warframe and it’s community: There is no singular right answer. Anything works as long as you have fun with it. Yes, we will have ‘meta’ choices that are good, because nothing else compares. But then goofy weapons like the zymos exist. And few things are more satisfying, in my eyes, than watching chain head pops 😅
Personally why I don’t like the idea of “meta” because in most cases it’s subjective as hell.
I got a riven for Mutalist Cernos that made it a crit shotgun bow. I clear Netracells with it with zero issues. I can get up to 500k damage per arrow with a 10 multishot. It's insane.
There are so many weapons that, if you put in the time and effort, become complete monsters (Buzlock cough cough), but incarnons are just so braindead, that using anything else is just not worth the effort. Really apreciate the video. The Stahlta completely flew under my radar :O
Just tried out stahlta on full crit + HM plus a good riven, it’s actually an all in one weapon with everything u need and will scale well into level cap if built right
Finally I found someone who loves stahlta
i always have a blast using frost and arcane tempo(i know i dont need it but i like it), with incarnon strun, such lovely explosions like insane crit change and crit damage (like red crits with even 3 !) and a ton of status, combine it with the fact that frost has great survivability and strips armor, i just love it
Kuva chakkhurr is incredibly underrated imo. That thing can 1 tap with good precision
My favorite as well
I got the stahlta for free when epic game did its warframe thing and it’s been my favorite gun since, I added other guns like the trumna, tenet arca plasmid, and some other incarnons with are fun too.
Quickly becoming my favorite Warframe creator
FACTS!
Kuva Zarr, the build I currently have gets insane slash procs and high crit damage. On mirage with energized munitions, I create so many particles to the point I drop other peoples fps. I had a guy in my squad recently who had a 4070 TI; I dropped his fps from 300 to below 100 a couple times. I know this because he told me, oh and it is a flashbang when you spam it.
My favourite primary of all time is the Stradavar. It’s a pity that it’ll never get an incarnon. Thanks for giving me some ideas into other off-meta weapons! Got my sub
L.
I love stradavar i have god roll for it with CC CD MS -zoom iirc
On par with riven modded gotva prime
My riven isn’t that great. It’s a relic from days gone by, +elec.+damage, + CC. The negative is fire rate, but I never minded running fire rate on it. It felt nice, and didn’t affect the semi- mode. Maybe I should give it a few rolls to get something as godly as yours!
my stahlta just finished building, and this vid came up on my feed..thats must be a sign
Finally, Tenet Tetra has been recognized!
Just saw this vid mad respect for the Tenet Tetra. use to play it with a pretty nice riven and Mirage Xaku infused, with the Tetra Augment it make the bullet ricochet into the void sphere and that absolutely broken, just shooting straight with shit ton of MS spaying room and killing without even trying too
BTW in my top 10 weapon even in 2050 it would still be the Mutalyst Cernos in the first place, never have that much fun playing a primary since discovering this one with split flight
Absolutely agree, mutalist cernos is sick af
I just got a Tetra Riven and juiced it up with Forma... it's so good. Glad you share this gem!
4/5 Riven dispo...!!!
What is on ur riven, I have a riven but I'm unsure what kinda buffs I should look for
@@dexterp3681 i’m not a riven expert but i’ll say +multishot cd cc damage elements and a harmless negative
I just went back to the Gotva Prime and was surprised I never noticed its description that says when a shot procs a status the next shot has a chance of being a "super crit". I'm going to stack more status chance and crit damage and see how it goes but so far at 80% status chance I'm seeing a lot of red crits!
I love the battacor and and I have good riven for crit and it does insane numbers! Get a good cc ability and the charged shot can clear a group easily
Hey would you mind sharing the build with me? pls. I've been looking for a good build for the Battacor but I can't find any recent build D:
Love my Kuva Tonkor, had a riven for it for a long time, until I rolled it quite godly (2k plat market value) - so yeah, has been my most used gun..
After the ammo changes to Kuva Bramma :D
Not every, but i do sure feel like a schmuck next to most incarnons with any of my guns
i never played Steel Path or worse, so all weapons were viable and i played the ones which were fun :)
I really really appreciate your opinion, because it's different from other people. For example I really liked the tenet tetra when I played it but then I saw some TH-camrs talking it down so I thought maybe it's not even that good, but I still played it for fun and it absolutely demolished most things. So yeah just make your own opinions guys don't hold yourself back because of some stupid video.
When i started Warframe at 2016 i found Tiberon. When i returned to Warframe in 2018 i got myself a Tiberon Prime with a riven. This week i returned to Warframe again and i still cant get Tiberon off my hands :D
Me coming back to the game after years and years and years, battacor for life baby!
Agree on the tetra! came back to the game last year, it was my first tenet weapon, just fix fire rate and projectile speed and you are good!
Im glad that i found another stahlta enjoyer
TETRA AND STAHLTA BASED
man that stahlta skin is such a beauty
sporothrix with the new blast rework is also insane rn
Now this is some variety gonna try out the Trumna since it looks badass
Damn I just recently started playing again after 4 years and I used these weapons as MR fodder and sells it to save weapon slot
Bro i just got back into the game and i like your style of vids🤟🏾
You already know a weapon is good when it doesn't have any attention or any specific variation (incarnon, prime, etc.) and isn't an old ass weapon
loved the Battacor ever since QuietteShy convinced me to use it on her Fortuna release reviews
I have MR for Battacor: + CC +Dmg +Multishot -C.D and its still amazing weapon even with 1.8x crit dmg multiplier
Phantasma: "everybody loves this gun for no reason"
D: there's a very good reason and it's because it's really funny to stack hundreds of heat procs per second. It kills everything without acolyte status caps easily.
What you do not say in this video is that the tenet tetra needs warframe buffs to be strong. You cannot use the tetra on just any warframe in high level content. It's fire rate is abysmal unless you mod for something like vile acceleration, especially with critical delay. You did say it needs prime and armor strip to be fair, but to be also fair the phenmor doesn't need prime or armor strip or warframe buffs to be strong. I built the tenet tetra because of this video, took a while to farm it and forma it, but I sure wish I'd done my homework more first. I'm glad I have it because it's a fun gun to use on my harrow but dang this video had me expecting something much better. Maybe it's just because I don't have a riven.
Edit: On getting to know it better, the tenet tetra really is very good. Not the best but fun and worth using especially with the right progenitor. I suggest toxin.
I mean, you didn't roast anyone thou, you just complained lmao
Good list thou
For the Trumna or any weapons you want more fire rate with, reinforced bond on your companion is so nice, I always have it on any companion it's free 40% Fire rate
Do you have a kuva tonkor build w/o the riven? Also I dig how you get straight to the point in your video well after you roasted the hell out of knightmare🤣
Not really, but if you want to replace the riven I suggest bane mod the most and if you dont like bane mods then Hammer shot is your best bet
The only thing that happened to number 7 is that number 1 was added to the game and then people stopped using number 1 in favor of other weapons and in the process they forgot about number 7.
I think this gun could definitely be on the list, if not at least in honorable mentions. The Dual Toxocyst Incarnon is absolutely busted.
Its in the list of secondaries, this was only primaries :D
@@WispGraxx Oh shit lmaooo. I was too intrigued and fully forgot it being a primary only video :P
I stopped watching all the popular Warframe creators. All have terrible builds & just click bait for views.
Good to see some new fresh faces who actually know & share what is good.
Love my Prisma Tetra. About to get the Tenet version soon :D