His Monstrous Father - Frederick the Great #1 - Extra History Reaction
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Correction: Agnostic means "not knowing"
what you refered to as atheism "There absolutely is no god" would be refered to as gnostic atheism
Atheism means "not believing" and i would say that the overwhelming part of atheists are agnostic atheists. IE They dont believe in God but they are not 100% sure as the burden of proof as yet to be met in their opinion
Minor correction. Atheism, a lack of belief in, not a disbelief or a denial of one or more than one god.Theism is broadly defined as the belief in the existence of at least one deity, the leading A makes it into its opposite.
Kudos for pinning this, Chris!
Secondary, minor correction, atheism is a bit of a spectrum in practice. Often, it is broken into strong and weak atheism and can be broken down further if one so chooses.
A/gnostism and a/theism are different answers to different questions and, like noted above, are not mutually exclusive.
Read my post, please
Correct. Most atheists are also agnostic. (As are many theists).
I would more phrase it this way "Atheists believe there is no God as all the evidence points to there being none. However, because their belief is evidence based and they known human knowledge is not complete they are open to changing their opinion on the matter should extraordinary evidence be presented, tested, and repeatable for such extraordinary claims."
Most atheists acknowledge there is no way to disprove the existence of an uncaring deity that watches but doesn't interfere in any way and only action ever was to kickoff the big bang. Or a God that only acts through ways indistinguishable from natural phenomena. Such claims are unfalsifiable because there is no measurable difference between a world where such a diety exists and a world with no diety at all. So not only does it not matter, but also it seems far more likely that it doesn't exist.
The only way for an atheist to accept something as true would to be to provide affirmative proof that was incredible, testable, convincing, and repeatable.
The level of proof needed to convince an atheist of a God's existence is about the same as required for convincing them gravity waves exist. More, that is, than to convince a dedicated Christian adult to believe in a real Santa or convert to Hinduism.
In short atheists are about as sure as any adult is when they say "Santa doesn't exist." But every adult might change their mind if Santa actually showed up in person and did his miracles regularly and could be called upon to demonstrate the miracles. But this wouldn't be "believing" that would be "knowing". Just like we don't believe in gravity or the earth, or that the earth is round.
Frederick the great, he never became the son his father wanted, but became the son that fulfilled his dreams.
The story about his boyfriend being killed, is actually much darker when you hear the real story of how his dad basically almost beat him to death and Old Fritz mom almost died of shock. Also I can’t help but think that Fredrick took a licking to Catherine the Great in part because of the shared crappy childhoods
Yeah, It’s probably for the best that extra history didn’t go too much into the details. Everything from the physical abuse, to the psychological torture, and everything else that fritzes father subjected him to over the course of years was absolutely barbaric.
I laughed too hard at that typo of licking. I’m such a child
@@yeslol9303 opps 😂
Katte’s step mother almost did, too. It was a horrible, horrible situation
Well he was maybe not his boyfriend
"Fun" fact about that regiment of giants, Frederick-William also had a device that would make men taller. By stretching them. He did this with many, but most were simply.. ripped or popped into two.
Did it make any taller cause I am willing to take the risk
@@painvillegaming4119 I think it worked for a few. Keyword being "few".
@@jpbreeze44 well am about to purchase a torture device 😂
(ps:this is a joke )
Thank you for giving us another reason to hate Frederick-William.
I think you gave a great perspective of how being homosexual in that times society was unacceptable by large. Indeed if you were born a prince in that time you had to be a masculine person who would strive through all the challenges. the 1700s prussia called for someone who could do all of that, someone like fredrick the great
Note: the first prince that you came across who was the oldest younger brother to Frederick, Augustus William, actually had children unlike his older brother, and in fact Frederick William II, Frederick's successor, was Augustus William's son. The third brother, Prince Henry, was also gay like Frederick II. In an ironic twist, Frederick William II was even more interested in the arts than Frederick II, and even less interested in military affairs. If Frederick William I had been alive to see how his grandson turned, he probably would've blown multiple gaskets. Under him and his son Frederick William III, the Prussian Army deteriorated significantly in quality, to the point where in 1807, Napoleon Bonaparte was able to defeat the Prussian army badly, and take Berlin within 18 days.
@@BoatsNhoes824 Frederick William II had a mistress, and was not known to be gay unlike his more prolific and successful uncle.
An ERB Announcer once said: "Old Fritz! Old Frtiz! Old Fritz! Old Fritz! Old Fritz! Old Fritz!"
Heya Chris! I'm soon turning 25 years old in August and I have arthritis and a few other medical problems, when I was 13. I had gotten beaten up by a pack of bullies and they rode me down 23 concrete stairs, sliding me on my knee's.
Ever since then my knees have been in horrid states of pain, they click constantly and when I walk for too long, they swell and turn bright red, cant put too much pressure on 'em, otherwise my knee's will give out.
Heck when I'm walking just fine they may just pop outta joint and send me tumbling to the floor.
And when I'm in pain from the arthritis or knee pains, my mood can shift from being happy to a near 180 of sheer unshackled anger and aggression.
I can sympathize with the anger issues for multiple different reasons, but I always feel so disgusted during it and I angrily apologize during these fits, and I despise it. But sometimes I just cant control it.
let me guess... United States?
Chris, as someone with conditions which causes chronic pain (Arthritis in my case), I understand the "anger" issues of the Freidrich Willheim. It's about irritability and how you deal with it - as it happens I look my circumstances and try alway to look at a positive if I can.
Fun economic fact, Fredrick William I had cut government spending in non-military areas so drastically that it inadvertently caused a name shortage for Prussian Kings, only leaving William and Fredrick as options until the shortage ended in 1861 with King Wilhelm.
adding Wilhelm to the budget was an imprudent expansion of government, booooo XD
This was a really interesting series for me. I knew a good amount about his war career, but the series gives a lot of info about his personal life and background on how he became "The Great".
Also a note if you did not know, Extra History is doing a John Brown series starting this weekend! I can't wait to see what your input will be!
There is still a German saying that is "Der hat aber Gardemaß" wich literally means "He has the measures (height) to join the Guard".
The Soldier needed to be at least 1,88 Meters //6'2
In my first year of university I did a module on revolutionary Europe from 1700-1848 and we did a week and our lecturer showed us letters between King Frederick Wilhelm and the then Prince Frederick and you could see the two very different personalities not only in what they say for example Prince Frederick often refers to his father as "my dear papa" but when you look at how they write Prince Frederick writes in a more fluent tone but his father's writing is very blunt and crude. However it should be considered that all what Frederick the Great is credited with is mostly down to his father. And also his father was known to be a bit of a prankster not a funny one though mainly aimed at Jacob Paul von Gundling President of the Prussian Academy of Sciences.
Am honestly interested about the prankster part
@@painvillegaming4119 An example of a prank was that they would get von Gundling lecture to the court on if ghosts exist and would get him drunk. Once he was drunk the king would send him to his bedroom where the king would get some of his associates and himself would go into his bedroom with white linen and to terrify him that it was a ghost and scare von Gundling and by the end he would faint from being frighten the king and others would emerge from the room laughing.
16:57 If you look at the bottom of the first paragraph on Henry's Wikipedia page it says "In 1786, he was suggested as a candidate for a Monarch for the United States". For all the talk of Hamilton being a Monarchist, there were couple of people further along that path. The chances of this happening were slim obviously.
Unfortunate how we didn't go through with it.
A little anecdote on the topic. When Friedrich was born, his father was speaking at his mother's bedside. "Bring him to me when he can stand and exercise!". Later there was a case where he almost strangled his son with a curtain. Another interesting anecdote about Friedrich Wilhelm was when he was riding out in Berlin and one of his subjects ran away in his presence. Friedrich Wilhelm stormed after him with his club and asked him why he was running away, to which the man replied that he was afraid. Friedrich Wilhelm followed him with his cane with the words. "You shall love me!".
As Frederick, fourth of his name, the rightful heir and Monarch of Prussia, whom lives in the township of King of Prussia, PA, it brings me great pride and joy to see you covering the Extra History on my esteemed Predecessor! Also, since this is a Wendy’s, I’ll have a triple baconator, please and thank you 🙃
King in Prussia sounds so wrong to me, it’s always King of Prussia. I’m from the area as well.
As an Austrian I am really curious how Maria Theresa will be portrayed in the following episodes. She was so important in Europe at the time and is well regarded to this day in Austria, but seems completely unknown to a wider international audience.
So about the unit of giants: They were abnormally large. they were really hard to maneuver, and could barely walk. Think (if you are a wrestling-fan, or just have been around "pop-culture" for long enough) Andre the giant in the later years (but before the crutches). It was for show as you said, if the show was close to home.
To be fair andre could move in his youth
@@painvillegaming4119 oh yes! But this unit was unfortunately like Andre between WM3 and the crutches...
Louis XIV's reign gave an especially strong push for french as the language of European elites, it was just some decades before Frederick the Great's story. I think Louis XIV really solidified the status of that language, until the 20th century and English of course.
MASSIVE Respect for letting the creators have some space and making you our own space for folks who care to wait for discussion (or watch both as I love)
Frederick William I suffered from Porphyria, which gave him gout, obesity and crippeling stomach pains.
I think that’s the disease George III is suspected of having as well.
I spend some time as an exchange student in Germany.
During that time, the history teacher talked about "Der Alte Fritz" (Old Fritz), as the germans call him, for the one lesson who was allowed to before he has to continue his rush towards the French Revolution. What I remember most from that lesson was the teacher's long, and generally quite amusing, rant on how Old Fritz got his nickname for winning a war instead of all the great domestic policies he implemented and for which he is still remembered fondly in Germany to this day.
That and that Columbus got half a sentence while the Revolutionary Wars got the other half (if you are wondering, it was something along the lines of "Roughly 300 years after Columbus discovered the New World for the Europeans, a couple of northern british colonies revolted, sponsored by the French and Spanish, and formed the United States.")
Yes, that`s typical for a german history lesson.
For more information on Prussia and its militaristic tendencies, Brandon F recently did a video analyzing the phrase, "while most states have an army, the Prussian Army has a state."
One of the Frederick the great's brother was a candidate to become monarch of the United States.
Hi, Chris, I'm glad you're doing this its a brilliant series. I have watched the original, its great then to watch your reaction which always adds a lot. I'm looking forward to the rest .
Yessss! I’ve been hoping you’d react to some content on Frederick the great! It’s such an interesting story, and one that I feel isn’t as widely known as it should be. Love the content!
Awesome episode! Please DO continue reacting to this series!
Very interesting reaction and you add a lot a usual. Inspiring to hear some personal experience in connection to Frederick. Great video!
Finally! Been waiting for your reactions since Extra History put this out
To clear up a misconception you might have about Atheism. Very few people who identify as Atheist would consider themselves in believing "There is absolutely no god" aka gnostic Atheism. Most would be Agnostic Atheists. That is to say, they would say "There is no proof that there is a god so believing in one doesn't make sense".
looking forward to the rest of this!
Funny enough, for the first time I watched the whole series on their channel as it came out because you hadn't reacted to it, and because it's great content obviously so you're logic at the beginning is excellent.
I've always loved how they can tell a story
Love the thumbnail. Really encompasses the episode and your reaction to it. :)
Prince Henry of Prussia is actually a really interesting figure, he was offered to be King of America. Which is weird to think that America could have ended up a Germanic Kingdom, I recommended you should look into this because it is very interesting.
Behind by about a week but getting caught up . Keep up the great work Chris 👍
I just watched this series a while back
Great to rewatch it with some extra context and infor
I come for history and then bro just drops the best life advice I’ve ever heard
you talk about "the old fritz" as we germans call him🤣
It's amazing how as a species we can overcome so much. I'm sure you can agree Chris, I'm from the UK and play football at school, I'm also openly queer and on the football field at school I was called awful words every day but I have kept inspiring stories (yours included Chris) with me to help me persevere.
Frederick the Great is so inspiring and one of the most amazing people in history. When Napoleon visited his tomb after he defeated the Prussians he turned to a general and said: "Pay respects gentlemen, if this man had been standing before us at Jena we would be running back across the Senne!"
Bragging about your homosexuality is not good. It is evil.
@@historian252 Ah yes something that has possible links in genetics and ingrained into someone makes them evil but who am i to question flawed logic
@nouvellelune8699 And those genes are? Besides if you eat meat by your flawed logic that means you can't say murder is wrong because it is somehow linked to genetics.
@@historian252 Literally no reason why homosexuality is “evil”
My father always pointed out that Fredric Wiliam I might have been an awful father and might have been obsessed with his military, esp. the Lange Kerle (tall boys, his "giants"), but he wasn `t very much into wars. Under his rule, Prussia only played a minor role in the Great Nordic War, but that`s it.
I was waiting for this reaction
I can't wait for your reaction to episode 5. All I'll say for those who haven't seen it (go watch it now) is that they got insanely creative in a fun way.
7:35 Fun fact: The soldiers int his regiment were called "Lange Kerls", which quite literally means "long guys".
Looking forward to learning more
I always find it facinating how the extremes of intercontinental politics almost always produce parents who go extreme in either direction, going all in on spoiling their kids rotten, producing some of the most incompetent and unsuited leaders the world has ever seen, or goes all in on being the harshest parents imaginable in order to weed out any and all percieved weakness in their children, or just gives them the cold shoulder for their entire life.
You rarely get that ideal sweetspot of a parent who does instill discipline, morals and such, but is also very clearly affectionate with them.
finally i’ve been wanting learn about this man
Nice stuff. Been waiting a while. Petition to make an Ibn Battuta reaction next. You'll absolutely love it.
Awesome as always! 😁
Can strongly recommend the series of "Lindisfarne + Viking Expansion" by extra history. Best videos on vining culture you'll find! 😄
To the Point with Frederick's sexuality, yes he had a lot of intimate relationships with men but not exclusively. They is evedince of Frederick having some "adventures" with common girls, at one of those adventures he got and STD (which one isn't clear) that mutilated his genitals which made him impotent and steril. That's also were his revenues hatred on women came from and also why he never got "really intimate" with his boyfriends. It's also interesting that in the Sans Souci park all statues have covered genitals because he couldn't look at them.
Well, to be fair, many gay men have had sexual relationships with women. It's part of exploring and discovery
He gives us the viewer discretion warning AFTER describing the beheading.
I've been spying on my notifications waiting for you to do this.
Please do the extra history series on Church schisms. I feel it will be right up your alley
I live in Brandenburg there is no monarch as celebrated as old fritz in this region.
I really enjoy your reactions and I would love it if you could react to a guy bloke video (maybe about the bottleneck free state, or the hre)
The dad is obviously the inspiration for Randal Tarly, from Game of Thrones.
same! not having the bio on these people really doesn't help explain some things done later, so having this background is fantastic
Great video about Fredrick
8:35 Perhaps a quote from Dr. Gregory House is helpful here:
"LIFE IS PAIN! I wake up every morning, I'm in pain! I go to work in pain! You know how many times I just wanted to give up!? How many times I thought about just ending it!?"
Actually, that last line would end up applying to Frederick the Great too, but not due to pain (not physical pain, anyway).
Also...
16:44 That's His Imperial Highness Henry the First, by the Grace of God and Providence, Emperor of the Federal Union of the United States of America and Her Territories, President General of the District of Columbia, Defender of the Constitution and the Rights of Man ... well, perhaps in some alternate universes (look up The Prussian Scheme if you have no idea what I'm talking about).
15:49
Interestingly enough,Frederick was also a grandson of George I,which makes him and George III first cousins once removed
I am not sure if you take suggestions from the comments but some videos that I think might be fun for you to react to include History Hunters': "Penpals with President Eisenhower's brother Milton!" as well as "My Teen Crush on President Ford's daughter" also by History Hunters.
My paternal line (origin of my surname) comes from Eastern Prussia. Came from Konigsberg (now the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad). My great grandfather came to Australia (then the colony of NSW) in 1888. He even fought in the Boer War as an Australian. He was too old for WW1. Unfortunately I can't seem to get any further back than his parents on that line. It's annoying because my mother's paternal line I've gone back to the early 17th century in England so far.
Love the videos Chris!
Wanted to recommend Potential History's "The World's First Successful Combat Submarine; H.L. Hunley" as another reaction. Curious what you think about the Hunley given your expertise in the Civil War - it's been fascinating to research.
Chris, I usually wait for your videos to pop up on a series cause of how much I like your stuff! However, I gotta go see the rest of this now! That being said, where you normally have the link to the original video is blank, nothing there.
Thanks! Added it now.
@@VloggingThroughHistory You're welcome!
Hey Chris! I found a TH-cam channel about 2 weeks ago and have really been enjoying it! It is called Tasting History with Max Miller and i think you should do a reaction to one of his videos! He find old recipes from text and then makes then and give a history of the food/people who came up with it! So it is not just you watching him cook, you should watch a few videos and see what you think! I believe everyone would love it
I think the thumbnail of you realy fits this video
This period, between the fall of Constantinople and the French Revolution is so interesting to me. The power struggles between these dynamic and powerful kingdoms aswell as the age of discovery is so interesting
Thank you for reacting to it! Sorry for harassing you with that request, but in my defense, I thought you'd like this series and it covers a very important period and person.
It's getting difficult finding Extra History videos you cover that I haven't already seen.
I like how it looks like as if the character in the thumbnail is hitting on your head 😄 I don't know if you made it intentionally like that
I have to agree with him no one really remembers angry little $hit in Prussia but Frederick the great King of Prussia flipped off everything his father wanted him to be and build a legacy of his own
The french thing was pretty much a result of the 30 years war humiliation. For a century germans "knew" that french language, culture, military was superior. And german became the language of workers and coach drivers. That's where Frederick learned and used it. Leading to him having a very folksy, natural apparently strong Berlin dialect.
Interestingly it was arguably Fredericks victories, especially Roßbach (crushing french defeat), that damaged this legend of french superiority and helped kickstart a new german self confidence in culture and language. The rise of Goethe and Schiller perfectly coincides with that period.
It's ironic that Frederick remained focussed on french culture and ignored or dismissed the new german one. Some were offended by it, some were probably glad that a ignorant King just let them alone and didin't try to control, steer or censor it. Goethe himself didin't mind and rather liked him.
You know, and being a good parent is soeething you do all your life, i am 38 and well i know mi parents and i try to understand, but, i am not a parent but something to learn, is that your sons aare indidividuals, with theyre own like and love, dont force them to love what you want or to be what you want, if you want to guide them, guide them at theyre own peace, if they want to cry, let them cry, if they want to smile let them smile, only know in personal situations i realize how immportant for theyre mental state is to know you love them for what they are
The "King in Prussia" title was a bit of diplomatic necessity, as Prussia was kind of a semi-autonomous state under the auspices of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and a "King of Prussia" title would suggest that Prussia was independent of the Commonwealth. Aristocratic relationships in these pre-nation state Europe were rather complicated.
Also Brandenburg, was part of HRE where no kingship titles were allowed besides for Emperor). So markgrave of Brandenburg could not be king OF Prussia only king IN Prussia.
@@090giver090 You are correct, I forgot that complication as well.
@@mjbull5156 where late HRE is involved there is a complication over a complication 😁
@@090giver090 That's not entirely true Bohemia was originally not part of the HRE and one the conditions for them joining is that Bohemia was elevated to the status of a Kingdom within the HRE. Granted by this point this it didn't really matter since the Archdukes of Austria were also the Kings of Bohemia and the Holy Roman Emperor.
Friedrich Wilhelm introduced cufflinks to the prussian army. Why? because the soldiers used to clean their noses with the sleeves and Iron Fritz did not like that
It really blows my mind why so many people think all gay people are weak and effeminate. When you have people like Fredrick the great and Alexander the Great running around in the past. Education truly is important
Yes!
Frederick the Great compared to how important of a man he is, is a surprisingly quiet figure in history. Like he turns prussia from a Tier 3 power that would barely be able to contend with something like Denmark and would be crushed by something like Sweden, to a... "top" tier 2 power. We're not quite at the napoleonic era of Importance for them, but he lays the entire foundation for what would become the German Empire and with that modern Germany. But compared to other Germans (particularly very romantisized people like Rommel or Bismarck), he isnt actually all that well known. Like if you said "how meny in a room knows Frederik the Great" they might know the name, but not the man.
They state that Fredrick's wife was a Hapsburg. She came from Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel and going back 3 generations, there are no Hapsburgs in her tree.
5:47 you will also quite frequently get summon, as Elector count.
Having watched this series recently, I'd highly recommend you look at the Lies episode at the end.
It goes a little more into how awful his father was.
At Fred’s grave in Potsdam, the tour guide said that he was buried with his nine favorite hunting dogs. God knows where the wife is buried....
It is truly amazing that with what he suffered when he came to power Frederick did not descend into the same tyranny as Richard II against all those who have been loyal to his father. He very well might have which could have led to an uprising in a coup but he did not at least as far as I know
The tall soldiers were said to be faster at reloading their rifles (filling with bullets and gunpowder). Perhaps because handling was easier with a large height. FW even bought tall soldiers from Sweden for his army.
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It's not strictly history, but the discussion of agnosticism reminded me of an excellent video that UsefulCharts put up on the subject of atheism. It pulls on research he did, and it's a pretty great distillation and definition of terms.
it would be nice to see reaction to 3 parts of Deluge from Eastory
Also, according to rumors prince Herny was possible king of USA.
10:00 I read somewhere that a lot of this stuff Frederick toke because his mom wants it to get back at his dad
I his case nomen was not omen. Instead solely rich of peace (Friedrich) he was also rich of war ("Kriegrich"). A ruler with two conflctiing natures that worked together well in the end.
I'm pretty sure Frederick The Great's brother became the King after Frederick died as Fritz had no children of his own, so the Hohenzollern line continued on his brother's line, much like Frederick William IV when he became disabled and it passed onto Wilhelm I.
Thats not completely correct as it was his nephew as because brother died before him.
From what I remember from history lessons in school, Friedrich Wilhelm actually sold the Amber Room to Russia in return for 100 Russian men for his giants.
Could you also react to epic history tv's napoleon's marshals videos.
Just as an observation of how long ago this was, when it talks about Frederick the Great having a love for music, he would have been a contemporary of J.S. Bach. Perhaps he was a fan of the Brandenberg Concertos? This all happened before Mozart.
After this series you should take a look at "Caesar's Best legion ( History of the Tenth)" by Filaxim Historia!
Chris have you seen any of Jack Rackhams videos? His videos are extremely entertaining.
Welll, at least in the end,Fritz was able to enjoy, patron, etc. the arts and etc., and we all can take joy, especially Fritz, that his father would be rolling in his grave… or what ever is more violent and more angry
Despite his moniker as soldierking and having a large army Friedrich Wilhelm I. only waged war once in a short campaign versus the Swedes in 1715-1716 as part of the Great Northern War.
Brandon F. made recently a video about prussian militarism. Is an interesting one and maybe worth reacting to.
I can't imagine how much I would be angry if my son turned out to be gay
You should make a reaction video to resyndicated’s video on 10 facts about Andrew Johnson!