Most of the britain kitchen nightmares are like this. Not a single music and sometimes no drama (almost). Even Gordon sorta portrayed as a different person than in the us countepart.
@@Sonny984 they have to cater for the lower mental ability of us residents who have some of the lowest IQ in the world. They cut out bug big words / sensibility for more stuff caveman would be entertained with.
Different strokes for different folks! Their was a gradual change over the first few episodes, the later UK ones tend to be a bit more edgy but still nothing like the American version, I did notice the hotel version he did in England was more like the American restaurant version so I think it was more natural development of the show rather then just UK politeness (but we are a polite bunch)!
Do you think that calling the Chef a 'French Fucker' is polite? Is putting your food that someone has cooked and paid for amongst the plants polite, calling old people and being just an absolute prick polite? Great Chef, one of the best that's no doubt but he judges every restaurant on his 3-Michellin stars. A lot of customers don't go to a rrestuarant expecting Michelin stars.
@@carlhamilton8531 maby u live under a rock and dont know that French and Brits are neighbours and help each other . So its in a friendly manner . If u compare that to the insults that he trows in US version u r a soft person.
So nice that the music is not overpowering the moments, there are no over-staged scenes and the characters seems like real people rather than grotesque caricatures. The British show is much more sympathetic towards the main protagonists and it is more enjoyable due to that... Thank you for the episode!
@@captainmcduckyYT completely agree. In the British version, Gordon seems much homier, the atmosphere is more intimate. I don't feel anxiety when watching, it's more like an old friend is retelling me his experience in a nearby pub. This version is cohesive. The American Gordon Ramsey is a charismatic, dramatic and sometimes unnecessary loud character. The show is basically a compilation of short clips on the same topic and with the same characters. Which is not bad, mind you, just different.
@@Shimaimashita I've been trying to describe UK version over US for a while now, and 'cohesive" is the perfect description. They both have their place I guess and serve different functions but the original is still unbeatable
The US kitchen nightmares tends to frame everyone in their most lucrative personality trait. Even Gordon. They frame him as a hardass who deserves a PhD in psychology with all the therapy he's doing, but the UK one is so much more...human. I've noticed this trend a lot with TV. People are after clear personality types - simple boxes to place people in. This style of TV makes me feel so much more welcome to be a person. I admit that's a lot of credit to give something as simple as a KN episode, but I needed this...thanks to anyone who read my little train of thought here. You're welcome to be you, your personality doesn't need to be boiled down to a few words to be loved
This was the best KN I have ever seen, for some reason I kept smiling while watching it, I loved how Ramsay was acting and speaking way more natural than in the USA’s overdramatized version. And that moment when he felt on the floor screaming “Zack!” was priceless. I feel like here we were able to actually see a bit more of his real personality not exaggerated for entertaining purposes so there is no need for dramatic music, tons of conflict, screaming and lots of edition just film Chef Ramsay like he is, his charisma is more than enough to make an entertaining episode. Idk maybe it’s just me by I prefer the UK version.
your not alone on that... i wonder if even american audience enjoys the over drama edited american shows compared to the more chilled and more 'meaty' uk ones.
@@TWBIAP but dont the over drama empty cry sound bits and excessive replay of 'shouting' clips ontop of that ear hurting bips just...counteract the entire concept of the show ? i mean , you might aswell watch re-runs of scrubs if that dont matter dont you ? ^^ just curious on the logic so to speak ;) how's that lees insane god king you currently have over there working out so far has he fixed any of the stuff the previous one ruined or just leet it fester ?
This is why I enjoy Gordon Ramsey. He is not pretentious, down to earth and really cares about the customer service end as well as the fact that people want /need proper attention to the food they eat. By helping all aspects of the industry he inspires those who want to make a difference... He suffers no fools.
I think this is the real Gordon. Still very honest, but not really angry and offensive. I think he was just pushed by what the masses like: drama. Such a nice change to see this.
I love anything Gordon Ramsay. He understands the psychology of people & therefore, he should be listened to as he's so much more than a top chef!!! Much love from 🇨🇦💞
Gordon, happily with a jolly face asking the chef to drop a bit of parsley like he's just a friendly neighbor looking over the fence was something I didnt expect at all. lmao
I said it before and I say it again: this is MUCH better than the American version. The tone is "normal" (i.e. everybody acts like a person not a prozac chugging hellion).
This is the most wholesome episode in this series! Ramsay teaching people how to cook, serve, wait on customers, showing how to attract customers is all gold! Besides, he was really hands-on and excited in the kitchen as with the Yorkshire pudding. Surprisingly polite with less cussing too ;)
Why on Earth did they paint a beautiful, historic mansion all purple? What did they do, it can never be undone. I agree with the locals; it fking sucks!
This is almost relaxing to watch!! Without all the unnecessary drama music that seems to be in every American reality show (I do love the kitchen nightmares in America though) Its almost like watching a "behind the scenes" of kitchen nightmares. Very great!
When he did these episodes you could always tell he looked at it thinking “What needs changing here?”. In the American ones, 9 times out of 10 the thing that needs changing is the owner needing taken down a peg or two to stop their ego destroying their business.
What's happening?! This is the most polite undramatic episode I have watched so far, is this really Kitchen Nightmare? I am missing the dramas & the "BS"!
US ver, Owner *asked Gordon to come fix the failing restaurant* Gordon "the food, the deco, the attitude all have to be changed" Owner "How dare you! Our everything is 10 out of 10!" Gordon *Shouted, cursed, Solving all kind of mental struggle* Owner *Finally willing to change* "Thank you Chef!" UK ver, Owner *asked Gordon to come fix the failing restaurant* Gordon "the food, the deco, the attitude all have to be changed" Owner "ok." *Go through some tutorial, some challenge, some mistakes, then a success reopen night* Owner "Thank you Chef!"
I agree. This is so much better than the US version! Although the first 10 minutes of any US episode has that explosive entertainment value, all the sobbing and stock piano is embarrassing.
The first time I have seen G.Ramsay really ENJOYING what he is doing AND getting results because No playacting, no farce , just good honest tutoring and work ethic with some fun along the way. 👏👏👏👏👏
I love the fact that he just stared at the food and be like: "I'm disappointed on you." The food would be like: "It's not my fault that I'm not tasty." XD
Apparently this was meant to be the show's pilot episode, but they couldn't film at the restaurant on the dates they wanted, so it got moved back to the end of the first season. As good as this episode is, I don't think it would have gripped audiences quite like the total trainwreck at Bonapartes ended up doing.
He is my big fan chef.. He is good in heart.. Even though he is aggressive it does not mean he is bad.. Iam eagerly waiting Gordon teaching me, how to cook delicious food..
The English version follows the same theme as the US , they soon reverted back to the original menu & closed shortly after. The building was eventually knocked down & a carehome was built on the site.
There's something oddly soothing and satisfying about watching a guy in a smart suit carving a chicken, and in a surprisingly effective manner, almost like a surgeon. Instructional, too.
UK KNs have a ton more variety to them. The first series of 4 episodes involves an all round bad restaurant that literally every US KN is based on, an overpriced okay restaurant with inefficiencies in the kitchen, a Michelin star restaurant trying to maintain its status and then this one which is basically the much needed modernisation of a restaurant.
Gordon you are so so great!!!! I just love to watch ure programs and see how creative you are, u are BRILLIANT‼️‼️ you have a plan for everything!!!! You are keeping your sense of humour nicely and ure temper as well‼️‼️‼️You are TOPS!!!
The British Kitchen Nightmares is soooooo much better than the American. It’s way less ‘dramatized’ and isn’t full of ridiculous music and sound effects
It's not just the over-dramatization (that does make the US version so fake and sensationalist)... The UK series was an entertaining lesson on professionalism.
Just to add, I do like 1970’s food, _if_ it’s done well. Duck a l’orange, prawn cocktail, Niçoise salad, even trifle, but it should be freshly cooked and made with great ingredients.
This episode was peaceful but a great change. When Gordon says they were running around like proud cocks,,,he curses every second but it never sounds rude. I love kitchen nightmares and I love Gordon ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I ate there back in the 70s, several times, it was a great place. They new about food and how to please their customers. I enjoy cooking and never use sauces from jars, or what are effectively ready meals. The Good Earth is also brilliant.
I'm Canadian & when I lived & cooked in England, I learned how to make Yorkshire puds from Delia Smith (her book.). Very easy to do. ...I though Yorkshire puds were sweet before!
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This is the most peaceful and smoothest Kitchen Nightmare I have ever seen.
I was just about to say lol. You can see the crazy difference compared to US show lool i prefer the US KN
Yeah I was gonna say why is it so quiet!
Most of the britain kitchen nightmares are like this. Not a single music and sometimes no drama (almost). Even Gordon sorta portrayed as a different person than in the us countepart.
Bcz USA Is asking FOR drama
@@Sonny984 they have to cater for the lower mental ability of us residents who have some of the lowest IQ in the world. They cut out bug big words / sensibility for more stuff caveman would be entertained with.
He was so polite on this show ... Looks another chef Ramsay
Because everyone else around him was also polite and accepting of his work, unlike the American version.
Because politeness isnt interesting to murican audiences. There its all about shock and confrontations.
Different strokes for different folks!
Their was a gradual change over the first few episodes, the later UK ones tend to be a bit more edgy but still nothing like the American version, I did notice the hotel version he did in England was more like the American restaurant version so I think it was more natural development of the show rather then just UK politeness (but we are a polite bunch)!
Do you think that calling the Chef a 'French Fucker' is polite? Is putting your food that someone has cooked and paid for amongst the plants polite, calling old people and being just an absolute prick polite? Great Chef, one of the best that's no doubt but he judges every restaurant on his 3-Michellin stars. A lot of customers don't go to a rrestuarant expecting Michelin stars.
@@carlhamilton8531 maby u live under a rock and dont know that French and Brits are neighbours and help each other . So its in a friendly manner . If u compare that to the insults that he trows in US version u r a soft person.
"I think this could be my toughest job yet". Just wait til you do every American episode.
He actually looks like he enjoy these ones
I thought the same.
Haha now that's a cool comment.
He made sure that was added to his script
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always makes me laugh when they go "I'm worried about alienating our existing customers" and it's like YOU HAVEN'T GOT ANY CUSTOMERS!
So nice that the music is not overpowering the moments, there are no over-staged scenes and the characters seems like real people rather than grotesque caricatures. The British show is much more sympathetic towards the main protagonists and it is more enjoyable due to that... Thank you for the episode!
Also Gordon's narration is very soothing
Mambo No. 5!
The difference between US and UK production lol.
@@captainmcduckyYT completely agree. In the British version, Gordon seems much homier, the atmosphere is more intimate. I don't feel anxiety when watching, it's more like an old friend is retelling me his experience in a nearby pub. This version is cohesive. The American Gordon Ramsey is a charismatic, dramatic and sometimes unnecessary loud character. The show is basically a compilation of short clips on the same topic and with the same characters. Which is not bad, mind you, just different.
@@Shimaimashita I've been trying to describe UK version over US for a while now, and 'cohesive" is the perfect description.
They both have their place I guess and serve different functions but the original is still unbeatable
The US kitchen nightmares tends to frame everyone in their most lucrative personality trait. Even Gordon. They frame him as a hardass who deserves a PhD in psychology with all the therapy he's doing, but the UK one is so much more...human. I've noticed this trend a lot with TV. People are after clear personality types - simple boxes to place people in. This style of TV makes me feel so much more welcome to be a person. I admit that's a lot of credit to give something as simple as a KN episode, but I needed this...thanks to anyone who read my little train of thought here. You're welcome to be you, your personality doesn't need to be boiled down to a few words to be loved
This was the best KN I have ever seen, for some reason I kept smiling while watching it, I loved how Ramsay was acting and speaking way more natural than in the USA’s overdramatized version. And that moment when he felt on the floor screaming “Zack!” was priceless.
I feel like here we were able to actually see a bit more of his real personality not exaggerated for entertaining purposes so there is no need for dramatic music, tons of conflict, screaming and lots of edition just film Chef Ramsay like he is, his charisma is more than enough to make an entertaining episode.
Idk maybe it’s just me by I prefer the UK version.
I agree I much prefer the UK version, it's way more chilled out. Are you from the UK yourself?
Oi
your not alone on that... i wonder if even american audience enjoys the over drama edited american shows compared to the more chilled and more 'meaty' uk ones.
@@Amoth_oth_ras_shash Well, I use a VPN to watch them from America, so yea we enjoy the UK version more. (Yes I speak for the US as a whole lol)
@@TWBIAP but dont the over drama empty cry sound bits and excessive replay of 'shouting' clips ontop of that ear hurting bips just...counteract the entire concept of the show ?
i mean , you might aswell watch re-runs of scrubs if that dont matter dont you ? ^^
just curious on the logic so to speak ;) how's that lees insane god king you currently have over there working out so far has he fixed any of the stuff the previous one ruined or just leet it fester ?
This is why I enjoy Gordon Ramsey. He is not pretentious, down to earth and really cares about the customer service end as well as the fact that people want /need proper attention to the food they eat. By helping all aspects of the industry he inspires those who want to make a difference... He suffers no fools.
UK season is so much better. Great watching. US seasons sometimes felt staged, too dramatic, too predictable.
The US ones do recreate scenes for dramatic purposes. It says it either just after the opening credits or during the end credits.
sometimes?
UK ones were better indeed, said it to my bro and he looked at me stupid. He needs to sort it out 😂
*English
You mean like everything else in America?
Best Kitchen Nightmares show I´ve seen. Don´t miss the reputations and over dramatic music. Well done.
I think this is the real Gordon. Still very honest, but not really angry and offensive. I think he was just pushed by what the masses like: drama. Such a nice change to see this.
Love to see Ramsey enjoying so much, laughing and just having fun! So positive change!
Yep...
llittle flirting with the waitress was fun to watch haha
"everyone went away happy apart from a table of 19" I dont feel like a table that size leaves anywhere happy lmao
"Are you gonna swallow?" LMAOO
She took it like a champ 😄
I might, but only if it’s well-seasoned. :)
@@riverd5698 DM me bby lmao
The perv got to him!
She was fit! lol
I love anything Gordon Ramsay. He understands the psychology of people & therefore, he should be listened to as he's so much more than a top chef!!! Much love from 🇨🇦💞
Gordon, happily with a jolly face asking the chef to drop a bit of parsley like he's just a friendly neighbor looking over the fence was something I didnt expect at all. lmao
UK
I said it before and I say it again: this is MUCH better than the American version. The tone is "normal" (i.e. everybody acts like a person not a prozac chugging hellion).
Gordon dramatically falling on the floor is a mood
It's a disgrace. The Waiter should have just walked away and let him lay on the floor.
@@carlhamilton8531 what
@@carlhamilton8531 judging from your other comments, you don’t like Gordon criticizing people, were you one of the US owners who got fucked to hell?
@@sadflix8754 No. Way off
@@carlhamilton8531 The waiter was as bad as your comments, muppet.
This is the most wholesome episode in this series! Ramsay teaching people how to cook, serve, wait on customers, showing how to attract customers is all gold! Besides, he was really hands-on and excited in the kitchen as with the Yorkshire pudding. Surprisingly polite with less cussing too ;)
1:42
"At least I can be sure that no one's watching me."
The irony 😂🔥
You can tell it's not made for American Audience by the editing style
It's so much better. No formulaic scenes, no cheesy sound effects or transitions, and it feels REAL. So much better.
Why on Earth did they paint a beautiful, historic mansion all purple? What did they do, it can never be undone. I agree with the locals; it fking sucks!
This is almost relaxing to watch!! Without all the unnecessary drama music that seems to be in every American reality show (I do love the kitchen nightmares in America though)
Its almost like watching a "behind the scenes" of kitchen nightmares. Very great!
When he did these episodes you could always tell he looked at it thinking “What needs changing here?”. In the American ones, 9 times out of 10 the thing that needs changing is the owner needing taken down a peg or two to stop their ego destroying their business.
Such a peaceful episode
What's happening?! This is the most polite undramatic episode I have watched so far, is this really Kitchen Nightmare? I am missing the dramas & the "BS"!
8:07 he legit just goes 'hmmmm Bisto' I'm dying
US ver,
Owner *asked Gordon to come fix the failing restaurant*
Gordon "the food, the deco, the attitude all have to be changed"
Owner "How dare you! Our everything is 10 out of 10!"
Gordon *Shouted, cursed, Solving all kind of mental struggle*
Owner *Finally willing to change* "Thank you Chef!"
UK ver,
Owner *asked Gordon to come fix the failing restaurant*
Gordon "the food, the deco, the attitude all have to be changed"
Owner "ok."
*Go through some tutorial, some challenge, some mistakes, then a success reopen night*
Owner "Thank you Chef!"
I agree. This is so much better than the US version!
Although the first 10 minutes of any US episode has that explosive entertainment value, all the sobbing and stock piano is embarrassing.
Gordon's giddy cute laugh during the pudding bit lmao
Chef Gordon seems so happy in this episode which makes me happy too
Probably because it's filmed in the country his family emigrated to!
This is so much more uplifting than US version!
The winter is coming and you’re blessing us all with full episodes. Yeah!
The first time I have seen G.Ramsay really ENJOYING what he is doing AND getting results because No playacting, no farce , just good honest tutoring and work ethic with some fun along the way. 👏👏👏👏👏
Spit or swallow? Jesus Christ Gordon! :D
Pretty women just push us into saying these things. It's only natural 😁
Gordan is very flirty with hot women :F
@@mirza6399 Gordon is hot himself! Not a classic beauty, but masculine.
This was honestly one of the best episodes of kitchen nightmares
Gordon is a badass dude. I enjoy watching these series. I've learned so much. If I ever open a restaurant I know exactly what to do.
"ill put it up is his ass sideways" that made me wheeze
The building looks like a blood clot.
Bloodclat!
When he was about to say all we specialise in is drink an drugs but stopped before drugs an just stared at the camera haha UK
This must be one of the first episodes after they renamed it kitchen nightmares cause he is way too nice here :D
Oh , this is the British wholesome version ... i see
20:40 jesus, the definition of gormless
The Resturant looks like the hotel from the Shinning
not as gormless as u
Thank you
Yeh it looks like an insane asylum
I love the fact that he just stared at the food and be like: "I'm disappointed on you." The food would be like: "It's not my fault that I'm not tasty." XD
Yes, so our burgers are actually microwaved deep-fryed frozen
Apparently this was meant to be the show's pilot episode, but they couldn't film at the restaurant on the dates they wanted, so it got moved back to the end of the first season. As good as this episode is, I don't think it would have gripped audiences quite like the total trainwreck at Bonapartes ended up doing.
UK is so much nicer, I was getting really tired of the dramatic music
yeah cause USA made it in to a fucking therapy
The entire country is much better.
editor : i'm quite lazy, let it just be it.
people : BEST KITCHEN NIGHTMARE EPISODE !!!
British audience.
this was actually calming to watch, i way prefer this over the american version. feels much less fake
He is my big fan chef..
He is good in heart..
Even though he is aggressive it does not mean he is bad..
Iam eagerly waiting Gordon teaching me, how to cook delicious food..
Good luck with that, just don't forget the lamb sauce
maby he could teach you english too ? :P
@@bunnyrabbit936 Maybe, hehe-
26:25 that look on Gordon's face versus the look on the waitress's face, while watching the chook get sliced up XD
The English version follows the same theme as the US , they soon reverted back to the original menu & closed shortly after. The building was eventually knocked down & a carehome was built on the site.
There's something oddly soothing and satisfying about watching a guy in a smart suit carving a chicken, and in a surprisingly effective manner, almost like a surgeon. Instructional, too.
UK KNs have a ton more variety to them. The first series of 4 episodes involves an all round bad restaurant that literally every US KN is based on, an overpriced okay restaurant with inefficiencies in the kitchen, a Michelin star restaurant trying to maintain its status and then this one which is basically the much needed modernisation of a restaurant.
When he was praying not to get poisoned he was really telling the truth
They are so calm and polite I love it 💖
Bring the old Gordan back. 🤣
Yeh this is like his good counterpart from the alternate universe!
@@markequinox This is the old Gordon, then he went to the states.
*Gordon*
Ffs, it’s not to read his name.
@@JulieWallis1963 oh congratulations, you've unlocked an accomplishment for correcting a name in the comments section. Kudos 💯
Gordon you are so so great!!!! I just love to watch ure programs and see how creative you are, u are BRILLIANT‼️‼️ you have a plan for everything!!!! You are keeping your sense of humour nicely and ure temper as well‼️‼️‼️You are TOPS!!!
34:46 you get Ramsey shirtless!!! 😍
The UK version of KNM is now offically the best one..
This is the first UK kitchen nightmares I've seen & its WAY DIFFERENT from the US one.
The best episode I have ever seen.....Fun, hard work, fun, teaching/learning, fun, more hard work = RESULTS.
The British Kitchen Nightmares is soooooo much better than the American. It’s way less ‘dramatized’ and isn’t full of ridiculous music and sound effects
This is the Real Ramsey 💯 👌
*Ramsay
It's not just the over-dramatization (that does make the US version so fake and sensationalist)... The UK series was an entertaining lesson on professionalism.
9:12 That guy might have said the most sensible thing ever. "How would you play this situation?" Holy macaroni!
British version is much more authentic and genuine than the u.s version
Just to add, I do like 1970’s food, _if_ it’s done well. Duck a l’orange, prawn cocktail, Niçoise salad, even trifle, but it should be freshly cooked and made with great ingredients.
Andy: how would you handle this situation?
Gordon: Andy looks promising.
I been wanting to watch this for years, thanks
Gonna enjoy this although I'd rather have an episode of "Hotel Hell". :D
Then watch one
This episode was peaceful but a great change. When Gordon says they were running around like proud cocks,,,he curses every second but it never sounds rude. I love kitchen nightmares and I love Gordon ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"Zaaack! Zaaaack!" 😂😂😂
The original British version of the show was the best. The American version feels too scripted
The right word is streamlined
what better way to 'stalk' golfers, than being followed around by a camera crew?
That poor plant, it didn't deserve to be defiled like that
This is the only one peaceful kitchen nightmares no delusional owner ..moulded fridge
I love the classics
UK version is sooo much more polite, calm. They actually accepting Gordon's work and not denying it like the American owners
"Are you gonna spit it out? Don't swallow!"
Yeah, no, I see no issues with that sentence.
Gordon never loses the chance to show his bare chest in camera :D
I'm pretty sure for Hotel Hell he wrote in a clause that he gets naked for a shower each episode
@@Burnape Lmao that's actually facts
And why not, he’s fit!
I ate there back in the 70s, several times, it was a great place. They new about food and how to please their customers. I enjoy cooking and never use sauces from jars, or what are effectively ready meals. The Good Earth is also brilliant.
I went to school there, I learned everything I _knew_ and know the difference between knew and new!
Good for you on not using sauce from jars.
@julie I found your unapropriate comment by coincidence. You are rude. This old man might not have hit those tiny letters on the smartphone screen
At 39.45 I'm surprised Gordon had not bothered about the green mould on the counter he usually goes through people lol
Chowder is a very nice platter
Garnished with oaks of haddock
I love this episode so fucking much its just bloody amazing, absolutely beautiful
I'm Canadian & when I lived & cooked in England, I learned how to make Yorkshire puds from Delia Smith (her book.). Very easy to do. ...I though Yorkshire puds were sweet before!
They can be ate as a dessert. My nan nan has them with syrup or jam.
He should have told her (his server) to spit the food in the plant. 🤣
UK nightmares absolutely slaps USA to bits. So so good!
He’s so nice in this 🤣🤣
gorden speaking frensh is so cute
"are you gonna swallow?" LOL!
24:20 and 33:19 I'm dying lmao
31:55 this feels like Gordon from alternate universe
Sad for me to watch, my parents met at the MoorePlace in1947…it was later bulldozed and now a care home….think the golf course has gone, too..
Man the English version of Kitchen Nightmares is so different.
"Oh, maybe the owners here will be good"
Comic Sans at 0:16 NOPENOPENOPENOPE
Gordon has a proper dad bod. I better get back in the gym.
Well This is 20 years ago,
CAN WE PLS GET MORE UK VERSIONS??? :D
ramsey flirting like feck as per usual..."are you going to swallow "..lol
The bit at 2:09 sounds a bit... wrong when you don't know the context
If I was there when Gordon was I would be crying with the standards or lack of they have with the food.
Love this episode no negative energy...love gordon when his not angry😄😄😄😅🤣😍
Dazzling to the eye
the most likeable owners