How Dolphins can upgrade your Storage System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2021
- Can you believe that dolphins can be used to sort items? This time instead of focussing on making the ultimate main storage, we take a step back and figure out a much better compromise for a simple and fast storage system for the casual player.
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This makes me feel like I'm still living in the bronze age holy dam.
"Hi" - Stone age gang
bro im still living in the unsorted stone age
What does a holy dam do, redirect holy water?
@@DIYToPen No, it's use to create a sanctuary for holy dolphins used to sort holy items.
The best I have is an item elevator in my mine to bring up my blocks to my storage room. Then, it's just a manual sort. I'm very basic. To be fair, it's not like I'm doing mega builds. I don't really need to sort thousands of items all the time
I only have two words for your youtube channel: severely underrated.
This channel is a literal gold mine with great presentation and depth in your videos. Thank you for posting these awesome videos, I hope more people find your channel since I found this extremely informative and useful :)
Plot twist: Cubicmeter finds a gold mine irl
@@dr.divyabansal1064 :P
Thankyou all for watching, it takes about 3x the amount of effort to present a contraption in TMC like this than it does to simply show it in a video so I'm glad you all appreciate my work.
@@cubicmetre and doing a cinematic increases that by like another 3x
I agree
7:05 : "And as you can see, this storage system is very simple to build."
The storage system:
it is indeed really easy to build compared to others that do the same function
Mumbo Jumbo 2.0
The dolphin despawn timer resetter is neat.
Also cool to see somebody made a cart based unloader. Coming up with alignments, and a good way to do them, is a pain.
This is incredible for casual players like me. I'll never need to sort shulker boxes full of pistons or beacons or whatever, but single-item sorters are far too slow to use in my base. Love the video cubic, keep up the good work!
I agree, if it had a multi item sorter component to it, it would be perfect
@@BenCowley111 you could easily add an encoded multi-item sorting system to this
@@hyperbean1887 'casual player'
'encoded multi-item sorting system'
H U H
@@hyperbean1887 I know, I will be adding it when I get around to my storage system! can't wait.
You're only casual if you're on bedrock.
Not sure why it wasn't in the description or comments, but for the dolphin cage, replace the lightning rod with a dripstone since the lightning rods hitbox changed. Otherwise this is a great solution to the item timer problem. Used it in my kelp farm when I harvest a large amount at once and need to keep the items alive longer for my smelter to process them. Thanks to the creators
Finally, an item sorter for us barely-more-advanced-mortals!
not like im gonna build a mega sorting system but goddamn that was the most satisfying tutorial seeing all the minecarts falling into place perfectly
12:08 made me realize
1.17: you can make a contraption that instantly dumps a shulker boxes content BUT it deletes the shulker box
Also 1.17: oh and you can now farm shulker shells for infinite shulker boxes
And if you use Carpet to its full extent, you can hook the shulker farm to a crimson/warped wood farm powered by a moss-based boanmeal farm, and build an auto-crafter for shulker boxes! These boxes can be can be fed into the storage system directly for completely automatic shulker loaders for bulk-storage items!
@@IvanTheTerrifying we need autocrafting, we allready have autosmelting and autobrewing, why not autocrafting?
@@IvanTheTerrifying sci craft vibes
@@ThylineTheGay Because it doesn’t feel vanilla
@@herbs4135 thats what they all say. Even mojang's updates dont feel vanilla untill theyre in the game for 2 weeks
I can't believe this wasn't a joke. I might actually build this, I've always liked looping water streams for my storage.
Man, you know theres something fundamentally wrong with inventory management in your game when the playerbases solution is a massive contraption lol Great video and great solution though.
Yeah, item sorting in Minecraft needs a revamp
@@pol... i kind of like it, makes item sorting impressive and also makes people more creative
@@_R_R_R it makes a handful of people with giant brains creative. the average pleb, which is what, 99.9% of the entire playerbase? can never conceive of building such a machine to help sort items. i assumed the bundles they were gonna add to the game was going to help with inventory management, but seems even the mojang devs dont want to introduce some kind of better alternative to storagemonsters to the game as it wont come in the wild update
@@_R_R_R It is very impressive to see people come up with advanced Item sorting mechanism but its also very resource intensive and not very lag-friendly on servers, due to how inefficient hoppers truly are. I'd rather have Mojang either make hoppers more effective(to decrease the amount we'd need) or have them somehow more optimized for lag...
@@henry7696 I actually agree with @_R_R_R, when I built my second proper base I wanted cheap item sorting so I looked up a tutorial on TH-cam, modified it to stack two chests, looked up item transportation and made it fit my base. Learned a bunch on redstone and having your own contraption you came up with yourself work was a great feeling. The need to build a sorter is a good introduction to redstone. When the inventory management really sucked though was when I tried to do an adventuring playthrough without a stationary base, playing like this is impossible without mods because of inventory overflow if you don't have shulkers yet. And some people don't want to get deep into redstone, I can understand that too.
The instant shoulder unloader honestly isn't that bad considering we now have access to infinite shulkers.
It's just a bit annoying when you have to re dye new ones.
@@lazyplayer1 Yeah i have no idea why shulkers are dyed that way, if only we could directly craft dyed shulkerboxes, would be a life saver.
Altho the item scroller mod does make your life a lot of easier for the shulker dying
Not sure how but you read my mind, but this is exactly the video I was looking for! I love your ultimate storage slice but that build I can not do by myself in survival
Thankyou, this is exactly why I decided to work on a more entry level design after finishing the ultimate storage.
The solution for unassigned items is so smart and cool. (to me at least) seemingly simple, but I never would’ve thought to do that
Wow. I just randomly got recommended this video. As a fan of storage systems I instantly subscribed! Awesome video!
Thanks a ton for showing this off. I was procrastinating on building a good storage system since all of them either took a ton of effort or didn't sort at a high enough speed. This is amazing. Keep up the great work!
This storage system looks like a good kandidate for double speed item sorters. Very well done
This is genius, nice one. You explained it really well, it seems so obvious now. Definitely have to build this.
Very nice and in depth video. I like how you break it down so it seems simpler than it is. Great to watch
Wow, this is absolutely amazing. Extremely good work! You have shown here mc mechanics far beyond my MC skills.
I really like ur content bro keep doing it , i love storage videos
I knew about the dolphin time reset mechanic, but didn't know how put it to use,Amazing video explaining the mechanic & putting it to use
You’re channel is underrated and your videos are great! Keep it up! I subscribed!
Thanks mate, appreciated.
This is awesome! You pretty much covered the basics and beyond and paced it very well. And I can't believe i haven't heard of the dolphin mechanic... I have more to say, but I need to stop gushing.. lol
Really impressive video, Good find FallenBreath! The tower of minecarts was my fav part.
Is there a way to marry this concept and the multi-item sorters? I'd love to have all wool types in one chest, but also to have the ability to give a single item type a full chest slice
Maybe chain this up with Rapscallion's? Instead of the unsorted items going into random chests like this one, just have it go into the input of the multi-item encoded sorter.
@@JosephElsherbini I would use cubicmetres! just need to remove the shulker unloader from that design
Just unload the single wool chests into a single chest underneath
@@BenCowley111 what about a bulk storage?
I watched the whole video, I am completely encapsulated in this world of super complicated redstone engineering, even though I am having trouble understanding a dickeybird 🥴 keep up the great work!
Just discovered your channel a few weeks ago, and this is the first thing I decided to build myself in my survival single player save. Took me a few days playing off and on, but I was able to build the half length sorter with Shulker burner just fine, and it's already making my game a lot more streamlined.
The only hiccup I encountered was the buckets disappearing from the burning unloader. Thankfully, I remembered a shulker unloader from ilmango's 1.17snapshot mass crafter, and so far I've not noticed any issues. Granted, I've not stress tested it, but I loved the process of not only learning new systems, (the sorter) but also troubleshooting and incorporating similar designs.
Bro I can’t even make a trapdoor open when i want with redstone, this is fucking wild.
Amazing video, just keeps getting better
Thanks, it's a lot of effort just designing these systems so I can explain them.
Looks awesome dude! And love that you make your own music, will have look and listen over at your other channel for sure! XD
Thanks, that music has been years of experiences in my life expression through song so I love that you appreciate it.
@@cubicmetre totally understand, for my music is a very big part of my emotions and how I feel, so I feel that ;)
thank you so much. That's what i really needed for my sorting system
Excellent build! Once I get to the point where I'd ever need to use a shulker box unloader that feeds into massive storage, I know what video to come back to.
Aside from that, I didn't notice you had music until you said something, it's really very quiet. I replayed the video to listen to it a bit louder, great stuff!
Definitely going to apply some of these concepts into my system
Plus 1 sub. Well done dude.
So damn underrated it is almost sad
Ive never seen something so satisfying as this! My redstone heart has never pumped as hard as it does rn
Sounds like this is gonna be a crazy video
That dolphin tech and detecting whether anything is still being sorted in the main loop are two idea I was still missing in the plans for my next base storage. I might go with water streams this time after all!
Items in water streams are often underated, they perform quite well in practice and there are a lot of clever things you can do to make them better without fundamentally having to change much.
Damn this is some awesome technical Minecraft.
Even tho I consider I know Minecraft pretty well over the 10 years I've been playing and following the technical mechanics of the game, I've learned some cool stuff and you made me think a lot about my new storage system with all those new tricks
This is great. I don’t understand it or have the smarts to build it. But super cool. Well done mate
wow...dolphins are op... also ggs on 10k!!
Dammit Cubic, I was working on mine ok. I guess I'll just have to work faster, but I just might best you this time. Seriously though thanks for the pointers I might have to use a few.
how did I NOT find you before?
you are awesome
Made My first dolphin based storage hall. Thanks cubic
The only scicraft kind of video that gets "simple" which isnt even simple. I love it
This is insane! Thank you!
Amazing video 100% building this soon u just got a sub :)
I don't actually need to build this, but it's so incredible to watch... How did you even figure out how to make the shulker unloader? It's incredible!
That's really neat. Good job SquareFeet
Metric forever!
@@cubicmetre hahaha xD
Mind blown! 🤯 How do people come up with these designs! I'd love to know how people learned that a dolphin can reset the despawn time of items as well! 😮
I mean, it's cool and all, but...I find it more efficient to never get to a point where you are sorting thousands of items. You just make sure you ALWAYS put back what you take out into the appropriate chests.
You are a true patriot, meanwhile the rest of us are screaming internally every time we open our inventories and find it's full of junk.
I am finally designing a storage sistem and I will for sure add this to it 👍
Just here to say that ur music ia awesome
First video ive seen of yours but i just have to say that's some good chest hair
Really nice system! Will definitively make something like this!
Putting this in the response section, in case it's already fixed, or the problem is on my side. Would love to ask you directly before posting, but as I don't know where to do that, here we go:
After messing around int he world edit, I'm pretty sure I understand everything done in this build. However, there's one thing I'm a bit lost on: I had some loss of items in the non stackable items section. I saw that some items were getting stuck under the filters because you forgot a glass block under the build, but that's not enough to explain the loss I'm getting.
After placing the glass back, I put in 8 shulkers worth of non stackable items, and I got 7 shulkers + 11 into the system. I found that 3 items was stuck on the composter at the destination (easily fixed with another piece of glass) but the last 13 items I have no idea where they went.
It's not a problem when putting a few items into the system, but when a shulker's worth of non stackable items gets thrown into the system at once, I get some loss.
Tested on all 3 builds along the redstone square just in case, and this is a problem at all of them. They were all filled with items already, so there should be no loss because other slots needed to be filled.
I don't think it's often I place down even a single shulker worth of non stackable items, but for the times I do, this will be a problem. (It also happens with the sulkerboxes themselves as well. And yes, I have also counted the items inside the hoppers in the storage system itself)
Do you have any idea where the last few items are getting lost?
Those items may not be lost but instead simply delayed, I have used simple impulse filters which detect the higher signal strength of an unstackable and briefly unlock a hopper below to separate them. This hopper is then locked again before it has the chance to push the unstackable it collected. However when the next unstackable comes along it will take it's place. So when you first run the storage you will find that some unstackables are caught up in the unstackable filters. There is also a chance that if you unload the unstackable sorters while they are running they can misplace items meaning an unstackable appears in the stackable overflow. However this misplacement does not break anything. If you want to avoid this caching of the unstackables you could replace the dropper in the filter for each slice of the overflow with a hopper so that the items trickle all the way down to the bottom.
@@cubicmetre looks like there's more than one item in the filters at once, yes. I checked a bunch of hoppers, but the problem was from some of the hoppers in the middle of the row. I'm honestly unsure if this is all the missing pieces, but this system is a tiny bit more advanced than I'm used to so I'm just blindly going to trust you on this one :p
This is what I get for expecting redstone to work properly!
Seeing this is just a problem if I put in a shulker worth of non stackable items ++, this is really not a problem. Just wanted to look into it in case it was an oversight.
Thx!
Man I Love you content.
Someone show this to Etho, then he can make the Nexus 3
I've done an unloader like that before, but it used 6 hoppers sat on the same block, which (when the shulker was empty) sent each one down a separate track to a separate path to the sorting array. It was much larger and less efficient than this, but it had one benefit.
It didn't blow my mind.
This build is incredible!!!
This is just amazing!
I'd been struggling to build storage for Illmango's 320 furnace smelter for weeks now
Multiple loaders wasn't a good option. Using chests as buffers was a viable solution for a while, but it was big, complicated and unrealiable for large smelting projects
Who'd have thought the solution was using a dolphin in a simple item stream loop
Finally someone else who also separates their item filters.
I thought I was the only one.
ahd the same idea about teh dolphin, but had issues about how to place it so it would return the items into the stream and not play with them forever. so this was somewhat useful
The idea it's so cool I don't know how you have the idea to use the dolphins
This is awesome, hope next thing will be this together with the multi item encoder.
Im not smart enough to merge those two. :)
Boyenn has already gone and made a much simpler solution than the encoded MIS for doing parallel entity item sorting.
@@cubicmetre Cool unloaders, but wasent what i was thinking.
I want the encoded MIS next to the dolfin item sorter. So i have a chest for oak, spruce ect. for all the random stuff like stairs and slabs, ect.
So i only have a minimum of stuff going into the overflow chests. :)
@@kimseverinsen6130 I was thinking about this too. The solution seems to be to sort those items in a seperate system after they get rerouted from the main canal.
that box unloader is incredible I might use that for a super smelter
Ah yes another episode of "Things I will never end up building but like maybe I will one day so I really should watch the whole thing so I know how it works but also like come on we both know I am absolutely not going to actually build this but I might though"
“I’ll get around to it one day” proceeds to save video in long list of farms I haven’t made. 😆
the item entity align pistons need a longer comparator extender otherwise items will stay on the ground and eventually despawn
Mojang should perhaps add a turbo-hopper. Maybe including a amethyst shards or something in the crafting recipe (for the electronics).
Great vid btw!
Brilliant, just brilliant.
What a time to be alive!
I used the dolphins in my super animated smelter video! Great idea!
Uh, your storage is actually missing quite a bit of things still.
This is exactly the kind of storage I was looking for though, thanks!
This is awesome!
such a well made video
Mumbo needs to make this for HC S8
I tought this video was going to be a joke about hardcore technical players, but it's actually a good instructional video for not hardcore technical players
Aussie content creator? I'm here for it. :)
I am a massive fan of that item dispensing system
This is too much. I love it
I'm inspired regarding my gold farm sorter problem.
Im not understanding anything but the music in the backround is Amazing
holy crap, the instant shulker unloader is genius and absurd
you could change the item unloader to make a gravel/sand/concrete powder door as it evenly distrobutes it will make each colum fill un the exact ammount
BTW: make sure you have the mobGriefing on otherwise the dolphin would not be able to pick up items
so basically: if you want to use this method of sorting, you also have to allow creepers to utterly fuck your shit up.
....but i always play with mobGriefing on anyways because farmer-villagers need that shit. The mob-griefing rule needs to be split per mob type
Dang, that's really important. Thank you!
Brother, please help me understand at 19:50 when you try the sticky piston to extend the minecarts YOUR carts stay up! But when I try it they stay only for a short time and fall down :( I have no idea how to fix it... I downloaded your world and on singleplayer it works fine... but on the server the one I built it doesn't stay up so they don't suck up items! Only 8 items on activation.. maybe its because I play on Paper SMP?
This definitely sounds like the kind of shenanigans that Paper would cause. You might need to make a few modifications to the box unloader. To start with you will need to remove the 4 hoppers above the carts and replace the hopper below the comparator with an iron trapdoor, you can then place the comparator back on this trapdoor. Then take the piston opposite the comparator along with the two observers above the piston and move that ciruit to a new side. The side opposite to this piston you will need to place an iron trapdoor, above this trapdoor we will make a water stream to carry empty boxes away from the unloader. So for the next few steps make sure to enclose the loader and make sure the water flows over an edge away from the system so it doesn't flow into the unloader. Hopefully this fix should let it work on paper.
@@cubicmetre ty will try to make it work
@@DidoDGaming any luck ?
@@cubicmetre Do not forget to replace an iron bar instead of just removing the 4 hoppers above the cards. There need to be a double iron bar on each corner. Otherwise one of the carts will jump out of the contraption.
@@ChernobogStudio The trick is to use one of the blocks that has a lesser height then a piston.
thx @RayWorks for that list:
0.1875 3⁄16 3 trapdoor wall bell wood small amethyst
0.25 1⁄4 4 piston head vertical medium amethyst
0.3125 5⁄16 5 large amethyst big dripleaf
0.375 3⁄8 6 hopper turned bottom
The trapdoor is the most handy solution to take. After the creative solution, I m tackling paper :) now
Cubicmetre you have better clickbaiting skills and redstone contraptions than any ohter minecraft content creator I've seen, keep it up!
Damn this is impressive.
It's such a bammer that we cannot block Hopperminecrat with a redstone signal.
-Sorting items using dolphins-
Well well well let’s find out then!
Really cool idea to use in a sorting system, me and a few friends have been using dolphins to reset the despawn time of a shulker box full of books with high data, creating an "area ban" to prevent anyone from entering a 96 block radius from it.
This is a very interesting idea. What do you mean by high data?
@@triangleenjoyer pretty much filled with high data characters, like Arabic. If you want to learn more look into the prison making community
Hey, I believe that in 1.17 tnt would also work as a small and simple unloader. I know it’s slightly weird for a storage contraption, but it could unload all the items without deleting the shulker AND it would be fairly easy to simplify!
A shulker box with items in it will drop all of it's items if it is killed by any means which would normally destroy an item entity. So throwing a box in lava, blowing it up with TnT, or throwing it at a cactus will all destroy the box and force it to drop all of it's items.
I have a question? Is it posible to expand the system, not by making it larger but by having it in a shape simular to your ultimate storage.(with multiple hallways)
Also amazing concept and video
Fantastic video. What’s the first background song btw?
Im going to try to build this in my hardcore world and see how it goes
Liked. Subscribed. Commented.
I like your funny words magic man!
Hi there thank you for this super helpful video, you are explaining everything so it’s easy to understand. I also have a question have are you placing blocks like you do in the video. I’m referring to the little blue buttons that appear when you do certain block placements.
Is the mod tweakaroo, here is a tutorial video how to place blocks like that: th-cam.com/video/QFEBj3dKoz0/w-d-xo.html
@@enkvadrat_ thanks a lot!!!
hi, is there anyway to easely modify this tu sort multiple items per chest (i know that you made a MIS alredy but could you use you same concept and adapt one if you haven't alread) PS : your channel is severly underrated and your content is amazing...
Hi, I think it's the first time watching.
I am curious if you ever worked on the binary storage that pallapalla invented and later prgm trouble worked on it.
I thought it would be a Dolphin doing the sorting... but what he's truly doing is just reseting the entity time... it's a awesome solution, but honestly I don't see a casual player needing it... but if ever come to a scenario where a lot of itens needs sorting, yeah this is a way to go...
Amazing video - thank you, @cubicmetre. Subscribed :) Was looking for a way to avoid items despawning in LONG water stream item-sorting system I'm building for my friend. She was stunned when I showed her we were going to use dolphins! At first, I only watched the video and couldn't get it to work - my dolphin was swimming under the wall and escaping without picking items up. But then read comments below and noticed someone said the hit box had changed for lightning rod, so we need to use pointed dripstone instead - also did the world download and confirmed it's now pointed dripstone there, too. (And couldn't figure out why dolphins were apparently "dying" - but I had just forgotten to name them, so they were despawning - LOL) . Not sure if there's going to be a way to sort raw fish without the dolphin eating it? But we'll see. System still WIP, but testing on dolphin portion works like a charm.
Hmm, I didn't consider that a dolphin storage cannot sort raw fish. But then again it's a pretty silly edgecase and unlikely you will be rely on the dolphin to recirculate large amounts of fish. Then again there will be some crazy fish person somewhere that this will affect.