I could honestly see them dropping the ball on the Ogier, as it could save them time and a lot of money. This could be the ballsack armor of WoT. However we all know if you get Loial wrong you don't care about the heart and soul of this series.
I hope that whenever characters meet, that they just stand there in silence for a few minutes, just looking at EVERY item of clothing the other one is wearing. So we get that WOT feel to every scene.
I'm not even lying when I say... I'd still watch it. I'd also be stupidly entertained by it lmao. I hope they do it at least once as a hat tip to readers lmao
A tiny thing, but I really hope Rand still starts to learn the flute from Tom. Those little moments later in the series when he internalises like "..when was the last time I played the flute?.." made his character so human. Not to mention how he pays for his meals/bed while traveling with Matt etc. Alongside that, a massive one is Rand's relationship with Lan. It only really begins in the first book, and gets more flesh later in the series, but the lessons he learns from Lan form a massive crux of his character development. The whole "death is lighter than a feather, duty is heavier than a mountain" is what makes Rand who he is throughout the books. Not to mention it's one of my favourite relationships in the entire series.
I also think it's critical that they establish this relationship early so that when Rand approaches Nynaeve for help cleansing _saidin,_ we can appreciate how significant it is that Lan looks at Rand almost as if Rand is a dangerous animal, as well as Rand's acceptance of that attitude. That small exchange spoke volumes to me as a reader.
@@pIayingwithmahwii It can be done. A good example I think is with Drummer from the Expanse series. You can tell her feelings about something with how she looks at the person she is enganged with.
I agree with Daniel that the end of eye of the world should not be portrayed as 'mroaaghwww' and should definitely feel like 'rriaanggmowwa'. This kind of clear and concise commentary on fantasy media is why I'm here.
I 100% agree with changing the ending of TEOTW to make more sense. Just clean it up. No glowy hoses. (The endings of the first couple Harry Potter movies did this to me cuz I hadnt read the books... I was like... WHAT? Why would he think to stab a book with a basilisk tooth! etc...)
5:34: "With all of that, it was the man in the cage who caught and held Rand's eyes. He was not close enough to see Logain's face, as he wanted to, but suddenly he thought he was as close as he cared for. The false Dragon was a tall man, with long, dark hair curling about his broad shoulders. He held himself upright against the sway of the wagon with one hand on the bars above his head. His clothes seemed ordinary, a cloak and coat and breeches that would not have caused comment in any farming village. But the way he wore them. The way he held himself. Logain was a king in every inch of him. The cage might as well not have been there. He held himself erect, head high, and looked over the crowd as if they had come to do him honour. And wherever his gaze swept, there the people fell silent, staring back in awe. When Logain's eyes left them, they screamed in redoubled fury as if to make up for their silence, but it made no difference in the way the man stood, or in the silence that passed along with him. As the wagon rolled through the Palace gates, he turned to look back at the assembled masses. They howled at him, beyond words, a wave of sheer animal hate and fear, and Logain threw back his head and laughed as the Palace swallowed him." Truly an Amazing scene. Logain is such a great character.
@@HallyVee Yes, I saw it! It obviously wasn't as grand a scale as in the books, but I'm glad they at least put it in and didn't cut it. It also is a pretty difficult scene to visualize the full scale of on screen. My only complaint was they focused on Logain and Mat, rather than Logain and Rand. I get they are trying to play up Mat as Dragon bait, but he really has no interaction with Logain later on, and the dynamic in the books between Logain and Rand, False Dragon and Dragon Reborn is great. Also Logain being gentled instead of shielded took away a bit of his presence, but I still enjoyed it. I absolutely love the casting for Logain though. Alvaro Morte is great!
Given that there are 2700+ named characters in WoT, I would expect they will introduce new characters to merge multiple characters together or represent a class of characters, just to make things comprehensible in the far shorter time of a filmed version. However, I'd want the actions and interactions of the new characters to retain a reasonable fidelity to the purpose of the component characters within the books.
@@jjones42 The showrunner said that they will always default to combining existing characters, no way they would make new ones given the character count
@@scottcody5878 probably a code name for an existing character. If the current major theory about the first season turns out to be true (that the first season is the first two books), this is likely a character that plays a major part in The Great Hunt but they're trying to keep it under wraps until closer to the release.
Daniel, I gotta say that this green screen (Greene Screene) is one of my favorite additions to your videos. Your content was already wonderful, but I love what you've been doing! Please keep putting yourself in weird places in Wheel of Time art.
Wow. After watching season 1, it’s crazy that they changed 1 (didn’t have rands fever dream w tam), 3 (logains scene seems unlikely after this season), and things we still don’t know until next season. The blight and the ways feel wonky in the show too.
The scene with Logain is super important, especially considering Logain says later on that when he made eye contact with Rand he saw a glow surrounding him and knew he would shake the world. That's why he threw back his head and laughed caged and shielded as he was.
Having finished the season here are the things they didn't give you: -No Rand and Tam making their way through the forest and the fever dream. -Not really a horror element to the first episode. It had some good tension in the attack, but I wouldn't call it horror -Didn't really keep the innocence of the characters or town at the beginning with characters aged up and more mature, Perrin killing his wife, and Matt being born of two abusive, drunk parents -We're not really getting a unique sense of cultures yet (especially since most places look like a United Nations meeting) -Blight was not well depicted and really was just another spooky forest. -Many of the characters (Matt & Lan most notably) did not remain true to their source
With any book adaptation, I always find I want it to FEEL like the book. Doesn't have to be exact, but needs to be right. I don't want Wheel Of Time the Hallmark movie.
I want scenes of thom being a gleeman where he regail is with stories from the great hunt, show us and make us belive he has the skilll to the be a court bard. There are so many smal moments that are easy to change that will change later moments and the feel. Like showing rand learning the flute is almost as important as him learning the sword in my mind
💯 on your Logain arguments! I just started Towers of Midnight and a book or two ago, he brought up that moment where he saw Rand when he was being brought into Caemlyn & could see the aura burning around a young male sitting on a ledge and knew he’d turn the world upside down... and that’s when he tilted his head back and roared with laughter. I LOVED that! I hope they do it justice ✊🏻
Speaking on the sci-fi feel, Rhuidean should feel like a completely different style of city. I always envision it much like a modern city, with glass walls and so forth. Also, I kinda feel that the Eye of the World might come as a mid-season thing... since some of the episode titles reflect bits from The Great Hunt.
But it's built well into the Breaking, several generations after the end of the Age of Legends. I doubt the Jenn (even with the help of the Aes Sedai) had either the technology or the memory of what that sort of buildings looked like.
They should definitely have a 'Logain perspective' in their encounter too! As in have a PoV of Rand just being bathed in a blinding light since Logain can see Ta'Veren, bit more visual foreshadowing and play up the importance of Rand. Maybe have a perspective of a farm boy sitting on a wall, then shift to a blinding aura surrounding him. Would be a cool touch
Thoughts on your thoughts. (somewhat out of order) a) Mat needs to know horses, Perrin needs to know smithing. b) The ways need to stay, as does the alternate dimension thingy with the pillars you use to shift between things in book 2. c) the magic needs to neither be amped up nor toned down, especially; the magic that doesn't have any obvious vfx needs to stay subtle. d) Moiraine needs to be presented as the actually powerful channeler she is. e) the blight; an idyllic lightly forested countryside/rotting desert f) Whitebridge is a perfect place to display a sci-fi-ish remnant from the age of legends. g) costumes including marriage knives is gonna be interesting to see h) for the end of the eye of the world, they need to make the role of the Eye as a pure source of Saidin for Rand to channel more clear.
I'm excited to see how they convey the withering stares that everyone is always throwing around -- seems like the kind of thing that comes off as plausible in prose but a bit tacky in a show. Aes Sedai stares will be fine to understand, since theyre so intimidating in general, but nailing an Elayne stare that stops Mat in his tracks, for example, will be harder
@Haku infinite But how are they supposed to "say their names correctly", though? This is a book, we never actually heard the names pronounced and each of us kinda made up the way names sound and stuck with it. For example, it seems that everyone in the show along with the actress who plays Leane believes her name is actually "Leanè" with an [ɛ]. I'm reading book 12 right now, I switched to reading them in English because there was no translation into Russian which is my native language. But books 1 to 10 I've read in Russian, so I was inclined to spell the names the way they were transliterated into my language. That's why I found "Leanè" to be the only reasonable way to spell it. But apparently - and I was a bit shocked to find that out - there's a lot of people who pronounce it "Leanee" with an [i]. And apparently it sounds right to them. So yes, for each of us there's a way to pronounce names, the way we used to. But if there's no Jordan's written will on the matter, none of those ways is more legitimate than the other.
@Haku infinite Well I anticipated the phonetics rules argument and one could argue that there was no actual reason for Jordan to be rigorous about them. Those rules tell you how to read what is written and that's it. If the author didn't want to be explicit about the way names are to be pronounced then he could have just not bothered and spelled the names whatever way while pronouncing them whatever. Your argument that Jordan participated in creation of audiobooks of course leaves no room for that. Then I have to admit: there's actually a right way to pronounce them. But my point still stands: there are people pronouncing names differently and nothing could be done, we just have to accept that. If you'll hear the pronunciation in the show that will make you cringe, then well someone would have cringed if it was your way. They would have, even though you are technically right and they're not. And sometimes they are majority, and that raises more questions, but won't get into that. P.s. two different ways to pronounce "Leane" would be: lee-AHN-eh lee-AHN-ee
@@АндрейРомашов-ш7ч There's a glossary at the end of every book, and at least first 3 or 4 have a phonetic guide to how to pronounce all of the names of characters and cities, etc.
@@АндрейРомашов-ш7ч From the glossary at the back of The Great Hunt: "Leane (lee-AHN-eh): An Aes Sedai of the Blue Ajah, and Keeper of the Chronicles. See also Ajah; Chronicles, Keeper of the."
Strong horror elements in at least the first season or two would be extremely important because it took Rand so long to even get to a competent level of being able to just defend himself. The horror elements would emphasize how helpless Rand is at the beginning of his journey and you could reduce them somewhat as the characters get more and more powerful through the books.
If they don't start every season whith a wide angle camera following the wind and slowly zooming in on the caracters, while a narrating voice says "The wheel of time turns, and Ages come and pass [...] But it was a beginning" i will be very disappointed
Onscreen text would be better than narration, unless they could get Cate Blanchett to do it I guess. Rosamund Pike is pretty Blanchett-esque come to think of it.
My favorite quote of thenwhole series is "what you gain on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts" and the fact noone knows what a round about is. That had better be included.
As much as I also love the Logain scene at the palace, the scene that grabbed me proper by the balls in this book was Rand's encounter with Elaida. I believe the text went something like this - "This I foretell. The world will know chaos and division .. And this man stands at the heart of it!" Incredible stuff! ... I would even go so far as to make it the teaser for the first season.
I'm glad you mentioned Shadar Logoth, because I just went off on one with that concept. During the day: suspense-heavy, Psychological horror - oppressive silences, punctuated by thin, high-pitch strings, and low-frequency droning (á la Paranormal Activity). Sweeping panaramic views of the desolate crumbling city with the baleful sound of Trolloc hunting horns in the distance. Mordeth creeping about the place and casting no shadow, dry-washing his hands in anticipation. By night: Full-bore Supernatural horror. Don't touch the Mist, it'll eat you alive! Trollocs and Fades falling over each other to get at the party, and get out quick - brutally turning on each other when the stress and the fear of the city gets to them and they try to escape. Lots of tight close-up camera work, don't linger too long, and stay out of the shadows. Moiraine and Lan let off the chain, carving and blasting a path out of the city
i really want to see the rand struggling with tam through the woods segment too. i'd understand if they cut it and did the same thing with rands character in a new, less time consuming way, but its such a great and intense sequence that sets up rands character, the setting, and the threat of evil beings. i agree there is so much opportunity for spoopyness and i really hope the show leans into the horror aspects
When I first heard the idea of Perrin having a wife die in Emonds Field I wasnt really bothered by it but it just seemed like a fairly cheap way to raise the stakes towards leaving. The more I think about it the more I think it's paying forward an effort to add some weight to Perrin's relationship with Faile. Having a wife killed by trollocs is going to make Perrins obsession over protecting Faile seem a lot less clingy and more desperate.
I can't get behind this. Perrin is a young man. All three were the same age which was 19 or 20 I believe. All three had little experience with women. Perrin's desire to protect is a very very natural male trait, especially in men from more rural society. It was also his large build and greater strength than those around him that formed his need to be extra cautious not to harm people that helped form that part of his character. Giving him a wife is, to me, a drastic change to his character arc that seems wholly unnecessary.
The new casting is so exciting! I agree about keeping Two Rivers the way it is like the Shire was. Ducking out before any later series spoilers. Loving all the WoT content Daniel!
3:40 AGREE on leaning into the horror. Its so much harder to add in all the extra horribleness of the Shadow outside of the page format, hammering it home really hard in a horrific non-cheesy way (Good effects, good makeup, good choreography, lots of evil) will carry through and allow more understated things - like the dream appearances of ba'alzamon - to stand up even stronger.
Based on the script titles released it definitely seems like the end of "The Eye of the World" will take place in Episode 4 and Episode 8 will take place around midway to 2/3 of the way through The Great Hunt - my bet is Rand's story will climax in Season One around one of the Portal Stone moments - waking up in alternate universe (how's that for a sci-fi element) or the finding out he fucked up and the group lost six months of time, meanwhile Egwene and company's story would end with getting captured by the Seanchan. As for the end of EotW, yeah... It makes no sense. What does Moiraine even do with the ground beneath Aginor? The way he Travels doesn't really match up with the way Traveling is explained to work later. It also establishes an early weakness of the entire series - lame final bosses. In the first place, Rand beats Ishmael *three times* over three books. Yeah, they need to adjust the end.
Indeed, that whole ismahal dying three times is overkill, just have die at dragon reborn when rand fights with callander for the first time, while the other fights in eotw and gw be non existent or be ismahal win againt rand but not killing him as to humiliate him
I started to get chills once I heard the Black Wind, and the POV was looking back and forth between the gate and The Ways. I can only imagine how spookier it'll be with a professional VFX team handling it.
Imagine if the Blight, as opposed to regular dark forest, is just soundless? While forest are always with that creepy atmosphere of “something is there” and with indistinguishable sounds, the blight is soundless, lifeless, the sounds of their steps being the only to fill up the night. Then contrast it with the other dimension from the Portal Stone, where there's no one but everything is in absolute peace.
ooooo yeah i like that a lot. And the silence could be broken startling the party as a bird lands on a tree branch nearby only for the branches to snap at the bird to kill it or grab it
Here's an idea toward showing that Randland is somewhat a dystopian future of our world. What if the ruins of Shadar Logoth are designed more like mordernish buildings but done so with the artistic nature of the Ogier and whatever resources they had available? It is described as having many towers. Could these be mid-range skyscrapers made out of some special form of futuristic concrete now lost through the ages? The same as the White Tower/Tar Valon and other Ogier-built, ancient cities. Also, the White Tower itself could resemble a skyscraper.
i also really enjoyed the scene with Logain. I remember, so vividly, the first time I read it. I was house-sitting for a family friend, and at the time I wasn't real big into reading, so I was only doing it because I had nothing better to do. That scene, for some reason, is when I got really into the WoT
What I am really curious about is how they will visualize weaves, channeling or magic in general. How do you visualize someone being shielded or someone defending against certain weaves or how someone can sense someone channeling. I would still want to be able to notice/observe these things but how theyd do it I dont know.
I agree with you about the end of The Eye of the World. When the series was officially in production I started a re-read, and to eyes viewing the events in a "how will this be done for the screen" kind of way the end of the first book truly stands out as one of the parts most in need of some creative rewriting. I'm feeling almost completely certain that's going to be episode 4, however.
3:30 probably because Jordan kind of dropped the ball on making the Shadow a believable threat in the early books. It isn't until Moriden and the Golem show up that the Shadow starts to really feel like a threat.
WoT is actually very close to Horror in genre. I had never realized that before until my reread of the series in the last couple of months. It would be really easy for the producers to make the series really really dark and scary. It was a weird realization for me because I'd always seen WoT as epic high-fantasy and it had never struck me as scary in the least.
Narg doesn’t come back?? I’m making my way through this series expecting him to be some type of foreshadowing haha I guess I’ll stop looking for it haha
Baron Facts Right, I guess not him himself but some sort of call back to him. Like the Trollocs were evolving and getting smarter and that would be a thing later. Or maybe someone else was speaking through him or something. I guess I just assumed it would be important later
@@donbaker7651 I'm honestly a bit confused by Daniel's criticism of the scene with Narg. Not that I think it needs to be kept in the show, but it's not like trollocs can't talk. They have their own language, and they talk all the time. They don't generally speak the common tongue, but there's no reason they _can't._
There’s at least one other mention of Wolf-headed trollocs being capable of human speech. It’s done while describing the various types and their particular traits.
@Chris George I've said the same thing elsewhere. Trollocs are almost universally less intelligent than humans, and many of them a physically incapable of speaking the common tongue, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of speech. I'm genuinely shocked there are so many people calling themselves WoT fans who seem to legitimately believe trollocs can't generally speak.
I’m fine with them cutting some stuff out like parts of the slog But changing stuff is a big no no for me Doubt they’ll do that though Hollywood always thinks it can write a better story than the author did
The prologue of Eye of the World is an absolute must! I would have not made through to the good stuff in the book if not for that scene with Lew Therin and Ishamael. It is the launching pad for the greatest fantasy series of all time. Do not short change it!
I'm so excited for the show! I would like to see all the rumors and misinformation spread, that is a huge issue in the books! I just finished Knife of dreams, this world definitely needs a newspaper or something😂 Sorry, Loial we can't just wait around for your book to be finished!
Honestly WoT needs a lot of changes in order to be adapted, however I'm dying to know what the change was the Sanderson didn't agree with at all. It's hard for me to speculate on what that would be, but I'm pretty confident that it's not about the supposed changes to Perrin's backstory. I can't think of a change that wouldn't be outright bad (like cutting Ogier or members of the main cast, for example) that would upset me or be a deal breaker for me. On the hole I'm mostly hyped for the good kind of editing that can come out of an adaptation. With the benefit of a complete series the show can trim a lot of the fat that's a consequence of the written medium (tons of description), the publishing situation at the time (book 1-3), books 9 and 10 running in parallel in the timeline, etc. Side note: More and more I'm thinking that they're gonna show Logain's origins leading up to and ending with his capture in S1 and the events in Caemlyn happening in S2, but maybe that's just due to the lack of Trakand casting announcements.
with the blight all of what daniel said but i also want to see them keep what i imagined to be disturbing but also beautiful. like when they walk of the malkier towers and the lake.
I’m watching this video after watching you go to London for the premier and seeing season 1. I find it interesting that they kept a lot of what you suggested. 🤔
Re-writing the ending to Eye of the World sounds just fine to me. Just make sure they get their little cache of goodies somehow and I'll be fine with it.
Something that just occurred to me earlier today in considering when the travel through the Ways will be shown (I am really not convinced that they can do two books in the first season), was what Machin Shin whispers. The focus has been episode 5 being based on the chapter Blood Calls Blood in TGH, and it certainly could be without getting fully into TGH. But it occurred to me today that Blood Calls Blood could just as easily refer to Machin Shin, which would have them traveling through the ways at the beginning of ep 5. I totally agree that the cultures need to be as distinct as they are in the books, down to accents and cloths. You actually didn't say anything I disagree with.
I hope that they don’t focus on Moraines staff to much in the show. I know Fantasy movies love to use staffs for the magic but that’s not what hers is for and I just hope that they make that fact clear like she does in the books.
I know the trolloc talking to him was a little odd, especially since they don’t speak common tongue again from my memory, but it wasn’t necessarily unimportant. That proved they were interested in him specifically. It also humanized the beast and that was Rands first kill. It probably made it more confusing for him. Lan was taken back by the fact that a trolloc spoke to rand so it obviously isn’t common. But the wolf head trollocs are said to be smarter than others. Maybe it could have been a spin off story at some point. “The ways must stay the ways they are” lol nice
Cutting out back-story of ancient cities and battles is a hard nope. Moraine's story about Manetheron is important to later things and can't be cut out, and I feel like they need to start the show exactly as the book started with Lews Theron wondering around the palace, realizing what happened, and pulling in an obscene amount of the power to create dragon mount. I wouldn't even be made if they spend half the first episodes budget on this scene. It is a must. And then I would like the opening narrative about the wheel turning to be added in some how. Maybe Moraine can narrate that? As we get sweeping views of gorgeous foggy mountains as the camera comes to settle on the west road, Rand and Tam.
I think one thing they could do to give the hints of sci-fi would be the way the Ter'angreal look. Even more than the Angreal and Sa'Angrials these were tools from a more advanced time and while I wouldn't want to make that too pronounced someone who knows what they're doing could give them hints of that without really changing the way that they are described in the books.
I am really excited for this show, never read the books before but I really want to finish book one before I watch the show. And hey if it's a success, maybe we will get a Chronicles Of Amber show next.
In Breaking Bad, for every scene in Mexico, they put an orange tint on the camera, it was a weird choice, but it did give the scenes in Mexico an underlying threat. They could do something similar with The Blight here, make it darker, more dangerous feeling.
It's in the shows best interest to keep the wholesome country side innocence for when Egwene does her test (which should be nuts on screen) there context as well when the crew comes back later the contrast hits home.
What would be a deal breaker for you?
if we dont see braids XD
If they don't give a story to every innkeeper in the series. Can't watch the show otherwise.
the little things they describe in the books; Nynaeve tugging her braid. her temper. men knuckling their brows. put it in!!
I could honestly see them dropping the ball on the Ogier, as it could save them time and a lot of money. This could be the ballsack armor of WoT. However we all know if you get Loial wrong you don't care about the heart and soul of this series.
Can I watch the video if I'm currently reading the third book?
I hope that whenever characters meet, that they just stand there in silence for a few minutes, just looking at EVERY item of clothing the other one is wearing. So we get that WOT feel to every scene.
And give it a Sherlock feel, where text appears on screen to describe the history and meaning of each button.
Plz lulz
And show the full menu and list of ingredients every time anyone has a meal.
I'm not even lying when I say... I'd still watch it. I'd also be stupidly entertained by it lmao. I hope they do it at least once as a hat tip to readers lmao
I hated that part of his writing
I mean, Hopper as the Dragon Reborn would be pretty cool
Yeah, I'm down for this alternate timeline!
I lol'd at this
You, sir, are mistaken. The Dragon Reborn comes from the Two Rivers and her name is Bela
@@lupaecainis her full name is Bela, the Shaggy Mare
Hopper is the Dragon Reborn, Bela is the Dark One.
A tiny thing, but I really hope Rand still starts to learn the flute from Tom. Those little moments later in the series when he internalises like "..when was the last time I played the flute?.." made his character so human. Not to mention how he pays for his meals/bed while traveling with Matt etc.
Alongside that, a massive one is Rand's relationship with Lan. It only really begins in the first book, and gets more flesh later in the series, but the lessons he learns from Lan form a massive crux of his character development. The whole "death is lighter than a feather, duty is heavier than a mountain" is what makes Rand who he is throughout the books. Not to mention it's one of my favourite relationships in the entire series.
I also think it's critical that they establish this relationship early so that when Rand approaches Nynaeve for help cleansing _saidin,_ we can appreciate how significant it is that Lan looks at Rand almost as if Rand is a dangerous animal, as well as Rand's acceptance of that attitude. That small exchange spoke volumes to me as a reader.
internal thought is so hard to convey in film.
@@pIayingwithmahwii It can be done. A good example I think is with Drummer from the Expanse series. You can tell her feelings about something with how she looks at the person she is enganged with.
Yeah what you said
@@pIayingwithmahwii Yes, they are, but in this specific case for example, Rand can pick up his flute and look at it wistfully and sigh regretfully.
I agree with Daniel that the end of eye of the world should not be portrayed as 'mroaaghwww' and should definitely feel like 'rriaanggmowwa'. This kind of clear and concise commentary on fantasy media is why I'm here.
This is one of my favorite comments ever!
I 100% agree with changing the ending of TEOTW to make more sense. Just clean it up. No glowy hoses. (The endings of the first couple Harry Potter movies did this to me cuz I hadnt read the books... I was like... WHAT? Why would he think to stab a book with a basilisk tooth! etc...)
If Nynaeve doesn't tug on her braid or smooth her skirt within the first few episodes, I don't know if I'll be able to stick with it.
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Lol the braid tugging definitely. First thing I thought of when I saw this video title
I just hope they don't try and make it too obvious, more like a passing action than a cinematic focal point
@Haku infinite 😂😂 maybe here and there
5:34:
"With all of that, it was the man in the cage who caught and held Rand's eyes. He was not close enough to see Logain's face, as he wanted to, but suddenly he thought he was as close as he cared for. The false Dragon was a tall man, with long, dark hair curling about his broad shoulders. He held himself upright against the sway of the wagon with one hand on the bars above his head. His clothes seemed ordinary, a cloak and coat and breeches that would not have caused comment in any farming village. But the way he wore them. The way he held himself. Logain was a king in every inch of him. The cage might as well not have been there. He held himself erect, head high, and looked over the crowd as if they had come to do him honour. And wherever his gaze swept, there the people fell silent, staring back in awe. When Logain's eyes left them, they screamed in redoubled fury as if to make up for their silence, but it made no difference in the way the man stood, or in the silence that passed along with him. As the wagon rolled through the Palace gates, he turned to look back at the assembled masses. They howled at him, beyond words, a wave of sheer animal hate and fear, and Logain threw back his head and laughed as the Palace swallowed him."
Truly an Amazing scene. Logain is such a great character.
They did it justice.
@@HallyVee Yes, I saw it! It obviously wasn't as grand a scale as in the books, but I'm glad they at least put it in and didn't cut it. It also is a pretty difficult scene to visualize the full scale of on screen. My only complaint was they focused on Logain and Mat, rather than Logain and Rand. I get they are trying to play up Mat as Dragon bait, but he really has no interaction with Logain later on, and the dynamic in the books between Logain and Rand, False Dragon and Dragon Reborn is great. Also Logain being gentled instead of shielded took away a bit of his presence, but I still enjoyed it. I absolutely love the casting for Logain though. Alvaro Morte is great!
I don't want them to make up a bunch of new characters. The books had plenty.
Given that there are 2700+ named characters in WoT, I would expect they will introduce new characters to merge multiple characters together or represent a class of characters, just to make things comprehensible in the far shorter time of a filmed version.
However, I'd want the actions and interactions of the new characters to retain a reasonable fidelity to the purpose of the component characters within the books.
@@jjones42 The showrunner said that they will always default to combining existing characters, no way they would make new ones given the character count
Even Steve?!?
@@scottcody5878 probably a code name for an existing character. If the current major theory about the first season turns out to be true (that the first season is the first two books), this is likely a character that plays a major part in The Great Hunt but they're trying to keep it under wraps until closer to the release.
That's my theory too, it's just a funny one :)
Daniel, I gotta say that this green screen (Greene Screene) is one of my favorite additions to your videos. Your content was already wonderful, but I love what you've been doing! Please keep putting yourself in weird places in Wheel of Time art.
Wow. After watching season 1, it’s crazy that they changed 1 (didn’t have rands fever dream w tam), 3 (logains scene seems unlikely after this season), and things we still don’t know until next season. The blight and the ways feel wonky in the show too.
Yeah watch rand be part of egwenes men
Whenever you hold that dagger, you have to show us your tortured myrdraal.
I really hope that's not a euphemism.
@@derpimusmaximus8815 No, I was serious.
When does he go full poison mist mode?
Secret Forsaken
Rafe: we're already writing the second season.
Daniel: don't change this in the first season.
he addresses this at the end
@@BillBuchananFtw you got me mate
The scene with Logain is super important, especially considering Logain says later on that when he made eye contact with Rand he saw a glow surrounding him and knew he would shake the world. That's why he threw back his head and laughed caged and shielded as he was.
First Comment: I want you to now do interviews with the dagger mic. "Wheel of Time is the best, you agree right?" :::Points dagger at guest:::
Daniel seems like he filmed this at about 3 a.m., running off about a gallon of coffee.
It wasn’t coffee. Haha
@@DanielGreeneReviews 😂
@Travis Fitch The blood of the innocent.
Boy does that sound like he's referring to cocaine
@@DanielGreeneReviews 😂😂
Having finished the season here are the things they didn't give you:
-No Rand and Tam making their way through the forest and the fever dream.
-Not really a horror element to the first episode. It had some good tension in the attack, but I wouldn't call it horror
-Didn't really keep the innocence of the characters or town at the beginning with characters aged up and more mature, Perrin killing his wife, and Matt being born of two abusive, drunk parents
-We're not really getting a unique sense of cultures yet (especially since most places look like a United Nations meeting)
-Blight was not well depicted and really was just another spooky forest.
-Many of the characters (Matt & Lan most notably) did not remain true to their source
“Guess what I’m gonna say here after I just said I like the scary stuff, make Matt a dolt” yeah good call on that one.
The most awesomest dolt ever!
This feels like a voicemail left at 3 a.m. in the best way. Rant on Greene!
Daniel wore shorts to show his well-turned calves
With any book adaptation, I always find I want it to FEEL like the book. Doesn't have to be exact, but needs to be right. I don't want Wheel Of Time the Hallmark movie.
Or a CW TV adaption?
Haha! Yes!
@@cowardly_wizard lol
@@jimzimmer2048 it ended up feeling kinda CW to me they seemed to only touch on their plot points lightly.
@@cowardly_wizard yeah, way too much romance and they fucked it
I want scenes of thom being a gleeman where he regail is with stories from the great hunt, show us and make us belive he has the skilll to the be a court bard.
There are so many smal moments that are easy to change that will change later moments and the feel. Like showing rand learning the flute is almost as important as him learning the sword in my mind
💯 on your Logain arguments! I just started Towers of Midnight and a book or two ago, he brought up that moment where he saw Rand when he was being brought into Caemlyn & could see the aura burning around a young male sitting on a ledge and knew he’d turn the world upside down... and that’s when he tilted his head back and roared with laughter.
I LOVED that! I hope they do it justice ✊🏻
Speaking on the sci-fi feel, Rhuidean should feel like a completely different style of city. I always envision it much like a modern city, with glass walls and so forth.
Also, I kinda feel that the Eye of the World might come as a mid-season thing... since some of the episode titles reflect bits from The Great Hunt.
But it's built well into the Breaking, several generations after the end of the Age of Legends. I doubt the Jenn (even with the help of the Aes Sedai) had either the technology or the memory of what that sort of buildings looked like.
BIG YES TO THE RAND SEES LOGAIN SCENE. That remains one of my favorite 10 scenes of the entire series. So good.
They should definitely have a 'Logain perspective' in their encounter too! As in have a PoV of Rand just being bathed in a blinding light since Logain can see Ta'Veren, bit more visual foreshadowing and play up the importance of Rand. Maybe have a perspective of a farm boy sitting on a wall, then shift to a blinding aura surrounding him. Would be a cool touch
With each video I watch, I feel like Daniel gets weirder and more out there. It’s like watching him slowly descend into madness...just like Rand!
I think Daniel was just much less confident in previous videos and know he's learnt he can express himself
Daniel: "I understand you're going to have to change some things but also don't change anything"
Thoughts on your thoughts. (somewhat out of order)
a) Mat needs to know horses, Perrin needs to know smithing.
b) The ways need to stay, as does the alternate dimension thingy with the pillars you use to shift between things in book 2.
c) the magic needs to neither be amped up nor toned down, especially; the magic that doesn't have any obvious vfx needs to stay subtle.
d) Moiraine needs to be presented as the actually powerful channeler she is.
e) the blight; an idyllic lightly forested countryside/rotting desert
f) Whitebridge is a perfect place to display a sci-fi-ish remnant from the age of legends.
g) costumes including marriage knives is gonna be interesting to see
h) for the end of the eye of the world, they need to make the role of the Eye as a pure source of Saidin for Rand to channel more clear.
I'm excited to see how they convey the withering stares that everyone is always throwing around -- seems like the kind of thing that comes off as plausible in prose but a bit tacky in a show. Aes Sedai stares will be fine to understand, since theyre so intimidating in general, but nailing an Elayne stare that stops Mat in his tracks, for example, will be harder
Exactly, I was wondering joe they would nail that.
@Haku infinite But how are they supposed to "say their names correctly", though? This is a book, we never actually heard the names pronounced and each of us kinda made up the way names sound and stuck with it.
For example, it seems that everyone in the show along with the actress who plays Leane believes her name is actually "Leanè" with an [ɛ]. I'm reading book 12 right now, I switched to reading them in English because there was no translation into Russian which is my native language. But books 1 to 10 I've read in Russian, so I was inclined to spell the names the way they were transliterated into my language. That's why I found "Leanè" to be the only reasonable way to spell it.
But apparently - and I was a bit shocked to find that out - there's a lot of people who pronounce it "Leanee" with an [i]. And apparently it sounds right to them.
So yes, for each of us there's a way to pronounce names, the way we used to. But if there's no Jordan's written will on the matter, none of those ways is more legitimate than the other.
@Haku infinite Well I anticipated the phonetics rules argument and one could argue that there was no actual reason for Jordan to be rigorous about them. Those rules tell you how to read what is written and that's it. If the author didn't want to be explicit about the way names are to be pronounced then he could have just not bothered and spelled the names whatever way while pronouncing them whatever.
Your argument that Jordan participated in creation of audiobooks of course leaves no room for that. Then I have to admit: there's actually a right way to pronounce them.
But my point still stands: there are people pronouncing names differently and nothing could be done, we just have to accept that. If you'll hear the pronunciation in the show that will make you cringe, then well someone would have cringed if it was your way. They would have, even though you are technically right and they're not.
And sometimes they are majority, and that raises more questions, but won't get into that.
P.s. two different ways to pronounce "Leane" would be:
lee-AHN-eh
lee-AHN-ee
@@АндрейРомашов-ш7ч There's a glossary at the end of every book, and at least first 3 or 4 have a phonetic guide to how to pronounce all of the names of characters and cities, etc.
@@АндрейРомашов-ш7ч From the glossary at the back of The Great Hunt:
"Leane (lee-AHN-eh): An Aes Sedai of the Blue Ajah, and Keeper of the Chronicles. See also Ajah; Chronicles, Keeper of the."
Strong horror elements in at least the first season or two would be extremely important because it took Rand so long to even get to a competent level of being able to just defend himself. The horror elements would emphasize how helpless Rand is at the beginning of his journey and you could reduce them somewhat as the characters get more and more powerful through the books.
If they don't start every season whith a wide angle camera following the wind and slowly zooming in on the caracters, while a narrating voice says "The wheel of time turns, and Ages come and pass [...] But it was a beginning" i will be very disappointed
Onscreen text would be better than narration, unless they could get Cate Blanchett to do it I guess. Rosamund Pike is pretty Blanchett-esque come to think of it.
100% agree about Narg. I'd also say that they voice that speaks to Rand during the finale of tEotW could probably be removed as well.
My favorite quote of thenwhole series is "what you gain on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts" and the fact noone knows what a round about is.
That had better be included.
The scene where Rand makes eye contact with Logain is one of my favorites too, really stuck with me throughout the whole series
Those fireballs is by far the best I've seen from Daniel so far.
I hope the cgi in the show can keep up with Daniel's incredible efforts.
The cgi keeping up with him? Not very likely ;)
As much as I also love the Logain scene at the palace, the scene that grabbed me proper by the balls in this book was Rand's encounter with Elaida. I believe the text went something like this - "This I foretell. The world will know chaos and division .. And this man stands at the heart of it!"
Incredible stuff! ... I would even go so far as to make it the teaser for the first season.
well they got the names right
Matt, Galad and Gawyn at the tower, must be in the show
And that part where they say they'll fight him but they won't take his money and then he says "I mean to take yours." *mic drop*
I'm glad you mentioned Shadar Logoth, because I just went off on one with that concept. During the day: suspense-heavy, Psychological horror - oppressive silences, punctuated by thin, high-pitch strings, and low-frequency droning (á la Paranormal Activity). Sweeping panaramic views of the desolate crumbling city with the baleful sound of Trolloc hunting horns in the distance. Mordeth creeping about the place and casting no shadow, dry-washing his hands in anticipation.
By night: Full-bore Supernatural horror. Don't touch the Mist, it'll eat you alive! Trollocs and Fades falling over each other to get at the party, and get out quick - brutally turning on each other when the stress and the fear of the city gets to them and they try to escape. Lots of tight close-up camera work, don't linger too long, and stay out of the shadows. Moiraine and Lan let off the chain, carving and blasting a path out of the city
i really want to see the rand struggling with tam through the woods segment too. i'd understand if they cut it and did the same thing with rands character in a new, less time consuming way, but its such a great and intense sequence that sets up rands character, the setting, and the threat of evil beings. i agree there is so much opportunity for spoopyness and i really hope the show leans into the horror aspects
"The Ways have to stay the Ways they are". Stand by for a WoT stand up comedy special coming soon.
I hope they take inspiration from the artworks/covers. I really want a fantasy show that LOOKS fantastical.
When I first heard the idea of Perrin having a wife die in Emonds Field I wasnt really bothered by it but it just seemed like a fairly cheap way to raise the stakes towards leaving. The more I think about it the more I think it's paying forward an effort to add some weight to Perrin's relationship with Faile. Having a wife killed by trollocs is going to make Perrins obsession over protecting Faile seem a lot less clingy and more desperate.
I can't get behind this. Perrin is a young man. All three were the same age which was 19 or 20 I believe. All three had little experience with women. Perrin's desire to protect is a very very natural male trait, especially in men from more rural society. It was also his large build and greater strength than those around him that formed his need to be extra cautious not to harm people that helped form that part of his character. Giving him a wife is, to me, a drastic change to his character arc that seems wholly unnecessary.
No uneccessary change
They are teens not marriage age yet
Well perrin needs something, cause his character never changes thruout the books. I personally think his character was a waste of time
@@tobi79777 he changes plenty
He got the wolfthing to accept
Being seen as worthy (by himself) to lead, to be loved.
@@yeahbee8237 my problem is that it took him 10 books to do that.
This is pure Greene screen Daniel greatness!!
I keep forgetting about the possibilities with this medium. Showing Aridhol as it fell would be so rad!
The new casting is so exciting! I agree about keeping Two Rivers the way it is like the Shire was. Ducking out before any later series spoilers. Loving all the WoT content Daniel!
3:40 AGREE on leaning into the horror. Its so much harder to add in all the extra horribleness of the Shadow outside of the page format, hammering it home really hard in a horrific non-cheesy way (Good effects, good makeup, good choreography, lots of evil) will carry through and allow more understated things - like the dream appearances of ba'alzamon - to stand up even stronger.
Based on the script titles released it definitely seems like the end of "The Eye of the World" will take place in Episode 4 and Episode 8 will take place around midway to 2/3 of the way through The Great Hunt - my bet is Rand's story will climax in Season One around one of the Portal Stone moments - waking up in alternate universe (how's that for a sci-fi element) or the finding out he fucked up and the group lost six months of time, meanwhile Egwene and company's story would end with getting captured by the Seanchan.
As for the end of EotW, yeah... It makes no sense. What does Moiraine even do with the ground beneath Aginor? The way he Travels doesn't really match up with the way Traveling is explained to work later. It also establishes an early weakness of the entire series - lame final bosses. In the first place, Rand beats Ishmael *three times* over three books. Yeah, they need to adjust the end.
Indeed, that whole ismahal dying three times is overkill, just have die at dragon reborn when rand fights with callander for the first time, while the other fights in eotw and gw be non existent or be ismahal win againt rand but not killing him as to humiliate him
Idk, man.. I feel like Hopper would make a great Dragon Reborn. None of that two-legs nonsense to stop him doing what's necessary.
Seriously I am so fucking pumped. I am stoked for you dude that your show has grown and so have you. Keep up the great work buddy.
You and Mike are killing it!
I started to get chills once I heard the Black Wind, and the POV was looking back and forth between the gate and The Ways. I can only imagine how spookier it'll be with a professional VFX team handling it.
Imagine if the Blight, as opposed to regular dark forest, is just soundless? While forest are always with that creepy atmosphere of “something is there” and with indistinguishable sounds, the blight is soundless, lifeless, the sounds of their steps being the only to fill up the night. Then contrast it with the other dimension from the Portal Stone, where there's no one but everything is in absolute peace.
ooooo yeah i like that a lot. And the silence could be broken startling the party as a bird lands on a tree branch nearby only for the branches to snap at the bird to kill it or grab it
Here's an idea toward showing that Randland is somewhat a dystopian future of our world. What if the ruins of Shadar Logoth are designed more like mordernish buildings but done so with the artistic nature of the Ogier and whatever resources they had available? It is described as having many towers. Could these be mid-range skyscrapers made out of some special form of futuristic concrete now lost through the ages? The same as the White Tower/Tar Valon and other Ogier-built, ancient cities. Also, the White Tower itself could resemble a skyscraper.
i also really enjoyed the scene with Logain. I remember, so vividly, the first time I read it. I was house-sitting for a family friend, and at the time I wasn't real big into reading, so I was only doing it because I had nothing better to do. That scene, for some reason, is when I got really into the WoT
It’s mats now
What I am really curious about is how they will visualize weaves, channeling or magic in general. How do you visualize someone being shielded or someone defending against certain weaves or how someone can sense someone channeling. I would still want to be able to notice/observe these things but how theyd do it I dont know.
I agree with you about the end of The Eye of the World. When the series was officially in production I started a re-read, and to eyes viewing the events in a "how will this be done for the screen" kind of way the end of the first book truly stands out as one of the parts most in need of some creative rewriting. I'm feeling almost completely certain that's going to be episode 4, however.
3:30 probably because Jordan kind of dropped the ball on making the Shadow a believable threat in the early books. It isn't until Moriden and the Golem show up that the Shadow starts to really feel like a threat.
WoT is actually very close to Horror in genre.
I had never realized that before until my reread of the series in the last couple of months. It would be really easy for the producers to make the series really really dark and scary. It was a weird realization for me because I'd always seen WoT as epic high-fantasy and it had never struck me as scary in the least.
Narg doesn’t come back?? I’m making my way through this series expecting him to be some type of foreshadowing haha I guess I’ll stop looking for it haha
Baron Facts Right, I guess not him himself but some sort of call back to him. Like the Trollocs were evolving and getting smarter and that would be a thing later. Or maybe someone else was speaking through him or something. I guess I just assumed it would be important later
@@donbaker7651 I'm honestly a bit confused by Daniel's criticism of the scene with Narg. Not that I think it needs to be kept in the show, but it's not like trollocs can't talk. They have their own language, and they talk all the time. They don't generally speak the common tongue, but there's no reason they _can't._
There’s at least one other mention of Wolf-headed trollocs being capable of human speech. It’s done while describing the various types and their particular traits.
Jordan Holmes The one that talked to Rand in the farmhouse was wolfheaded. The smartest kind.
@Chris George I've said the same thing elsewhere. Trollocs are almost universally less intelligent than humans, and many of them a physically incapable of speaking the common tongue, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of speech. I'm genuinely shocked there are so many people calling themselves WoT fans who seem to legitimately believe trollocs can't generally speak.
Is that video behind the 'Ways' section from the 90's video game?
Loved this. Couldn’t agree more. Loved the energy and passion, too! Don’t cut yourself!
The Ways always reminds me of the realm of Lolth in the old D&D module, Queen of the Demon Web Pits...
I’m fine with them cutting some stuff out like parts of the slog
But changing stuff is a big no no for me
Doubt they’ll do that though
Hollywood always thinks it can write a better story than the author did
The beginning of Game of Thrones was terrifying with the white walkers so that would definitely work in Wheel of Time
the way jordan wrote shadar logoth was some of the best written horror in fantasy i've ever read. really well done.
Looking forward to a "how they did" followup to this video.
The prologue of Eye of the World is an absolute must! I would have not made through to the good stuff in the book if not for that scene with Lew Therin and Ishamael. It is the launching pad for the greatest fantasy series of all time. Do not short change it!
can't wait to finish the books before the show comes out!
Third Comment: If Daniel pokes his eye out with that dagger, he could start reviewing pirate books. "Arrr... Der be spoilers."
Wait... he's not doing that already?
Disappointing Daniel
He could cosplay as Uno.
I would also like the approach of thinking from the end back to what they could cut. So thinking of your ending, what could you cut where.
They should not forget to use some of the WOT related Music of Blind Guardian
dont exclude egwenes almost funny inclusion to leaving iwth the group: " I saw perrin iwth an axe on his back, where are you guys going?"
You heve my exe, fellow stroke survivor.
Tahu Nuva omegalol
I'm so excited for the show! I would like to see all the rumors and misinformation spread, that is a huge issue in the books! I just finished Knife of dreams, this world definitely needs a newspaper or something😂 Sorry, Loial we can't just wait around for your book to be finished!
Honestly WoT needs a lot of changes in order to be adapted, however I'm dying to know what the change was the Sanderson didn't agree with at all. It's hard for me to speculate on what that would be, but I'm pretty confident that it's not about the supposed changes to Perrin's backstory. I can't think of a change that wouldn't be outright bad (like cutting Ogier or members of the main cast, for example) that would upset me or be a deal breaker for me. On the hole I'm mostly hyped for the good kind of editing that can come out of an adaptation. With the benefit of a complete series the show can trim a lot of the fat that's a consequence of the written medium (tons of description), the publishing situation at the time (book 1-3), books 9 and 10 running in parallel in the timeline, etc.
Side note: More and more I'm thinking that they're gonna show Logain's origins leading up to and ending with his capture in S1 and the events in Caemlyn happening in S2, but maybe that's just due to the lack of Trakand casting announcements.
Seriously I'm scared for Elayne now.
This is a really fun video, definitely hooked me on the channel XD
with the blight all of what daniel said but i also want to see them keep what i imagined to be disturbing but also beautiful. like when they walk of the malkier towers and the lake.
I’m watching this video after watching you go to London for the premier and seeing season 1. I find it interesting that they kept a lot of what you suggested. 🤔
If there aren't mirrored standlamps in every palace corridor I'll flip my lid.
I have never seen that Sweet cover that pops up in the background at around 0:25. What book and/or edition is that?
1. Rand bluffing the whitecloaks with the heron mark blade.
2. Rand meeting elayne in the garden.
3. Rand seeing Logain for sure.
Thanks, you always do interesting videos. I feel father ahead on the subject after every video.
Re-writing the ending to Eye of the World sounds just fine to me. Just make sure they get their little cache of goodies somehow and I'll be fine with it.
Holly amazeballs that Kermit voice was spot on
Something that just occurred to me earlier today in considering when the travel through the Ways will be shown (I am really not convinced that they can do two books in the first season), was what Machin Shin whispers. The focus has been episode 5 being based on the chapter Blood Calls Blood in TGH, and it certainly could be without getting fully into TGH. But it occurred to me today that Blood Calls Blood could just as easily refer to Machin Shin, which would have them traveling through the ways at the beginning of ep 5.
I totally agree that the cultures need to be as distinct as they are in the books, down to accents and cloths. You actually didn't say anything I disagree with.
I hope that they don’t focus on Moraines staff to much in the show. I know Fantasy movies love to use staffs for the magic but that’s not what hers is for and I just hope that they make that fact clear like she does in the books.
Let's just use your fireball effects for the TV series. They're perfect!
I know the trolloc talking to him was a little odd, especially since they don’t speak common tongue again from my memory, but it wasn’t necessarily unimportant. That proved they were interested in him specifically. It also humanized the beast and that was Rands first kill. It probably made it more confusing for him. Lan was taken back by the fact that a trolloc spoke to rand so it obviously isn’t common. But the wolf head trollocs are said to be smarter than others. Maybe it could have been a spin off story at some point.
“The ways must stay the ways they are” lol nice
Cutting out back-story of ancient cities and battles is a hard nope. Moraine's story about Manetheron is important to later things and can't be cut out, and I feel like they need to start the show exactly as the book started with Lews Theron wondering around the palace, realizing what happened, and pulling in an obscene amount of the power to create dragon mount. I wouldn't even be made if they spend half the first episodes budget on this scene. It is a must. And then I would like the opening narrative about the wheel turning to be added in some how. Maybe Moraine can narrate that? As we get sweeping views of gorgeous foggy mountains as the camera comes to settle on the west road, Rand and Tam.
I think one thing they could do to give the hints of sci-fi would be the way the Ter'angreal look. Even more than the Angreal and Sa'Angrials these were tools from a more advanced time and while I wouldn't want to make that too pronounced someone who knows what they're doing could give them hints of that without really changing the way that they are described in the books.
I am really excited for this show, never read the books before but I really want to finish book one before I watch the show. And hey if it's a success, maybe we will get a Chronicles Of Amber show next.
Good or bad, I'm going to have so much fun seeing this world come off the page :D
I’ve always thought the Blight was more like a jungle rather than a forest.
In Breaking Bad, for every scene in Mexico, they put an orange tint on the camera, it was a weird choice, but it did give the scenes in Mexico an underlying threat. They could do something similar with The Blight here, make it darker, more dangerous feeling.
Yesssssss the Ways must stay!
Well that did not age well.
It's in the shows best interest to keep the wholesome country side innocence for when Egwene does her test (which should be nuts on screen) there context as well when the crew comes back later the contrast hits home.
The first braid-tugging on screen will be hands down the best part of the show.
I always imagined the blight looking like Nurgle's garden.
OMG, yes. I always imagined it as almost psychedelic, or like the skin of a poisonous amphibian that just screams "stay away".
7:54 - daniel looks like Syl just chilling by Kaladin's spear (ik it's rand) LOL