My 2021 Trek Rail updates... The Good and the Bad
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- I made a few changes to the base model Trak Rail 5. Upgrades a few parts I was running, from other bikes and have created a super sweet handling ebike with the excellent Bosch EMTB motor.
Trail Rail Rear Shock Mega Thread: bit.ly/2OoNgpr
DISCLAIMER: The following test parts were provided for free by the relevant brands: DT Swiss HXC1200 rims, Rockshox ZEB, Ergon grips and saddle, and Shimano provided the Rear cassette and shifter. The rest of the parts were all purchased by myself, including the bike.
GoPro Stem Mount thing: bit.ly/3adrBcy
Build:
- Trek Rail 5 625
- Rockshox Zeb 170mm
- Fox DPX2 from a 2021 Trek Slash
- DT Swiss HXC1200 Carbon 29er wheelset
- Maxxis Shorty Front 2.5 Exo Maxterra / Maxxis Minion DHR2 2.4 Rear Exo Maxxterra
- Shimano XT Drivetrain
- Shimano M6120 Brakes
- Hope flat pedals
- One Up Components v2 210mm dropper
- Ergon 'arse shelf' saddle (cant remember real name)
- Ergon grips
- 45mm stem, 800mm bars
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Been riding my 2020 Rail 7 for almost a year now, absolutely a great purchase! Been riding much much more than I was on my old analog Specialized Epic, great bike in its day. I’m not a technical geek when it comes to parts, but the stock Rail 7 has gotten me through all types of trails here in the front range of the Rockies in Colorado. The Rail 7 takes all the terrain I can find and just chews it up under any condition. Since LBS sells Trek, its been great having them right in town in case something goes wrong (had a big crash in first month so went back to them a few times). Bottom line it, the Rail 7 has got me riding longer, more times and having just a ton more fun. Can’t recommend it enough! Thanks for your content Rob!
Great review Rob. I have a Trek Rail 7 and love it. I think your missing the point on the key. The key is not there to protect the battery, it’s there to protect the bike from theft. If you remove the battery from the bike then it is useless to anyone who steals it because even if they buy another battery they can’t install it without the key that you still have.
Plus they'll have to buy the cover and the mounting kit.
Spot on....
Great vid.... Watching Robs stuff is almost as good as mate's talking emtbs over a post trail pint in a country pub..... Nice. 😊
It would definitely be useful if you gave a price for all the upgrades over just getting the next version up ☺️
Agree totally with your points on keys and integretation of the display.The manufacturers have done a great job on improving looks with integration of the batteries and now need to look at functionality
Great video Rob. I’ve put 80 miles on my new 9.7 and Love it! It has the Kiox display which is a huge upgrade over the bar mount unit. It’s a super nice and full blown computer with some great features. I especially like the Power and Cadence display as it really helps you to stay in the power band. Regarding the battery. The dealer where I purchased has had a few reports of battery’s flying off the bike on rough terrain. I’ve just put an enduro spares strap on the top end to keep it secure. I love the brakes as well...was ready to upgrade before really checking them out, but now completely happy with the 6120’s bombing steep runs and at 90kg.
I love how relatable these bikes are, you seem to be looking less and less at the top end stuff and going for the best bamg for buck , that has 80% of all of us paying very close attention !! Good move and love your channel Rob it deserves 200k subscribers and frankly its just a matter of time
oh and also 2.5in were shown to be better rolling in an epic test 2.3 2.5 2.6 2.8 3.0 so maybe worth running 2.5 rear dhrII
Really like your explanation of parts and how tyres and cheaper parts can change the bike
Nice Rob, currently on the Rail 5 and seriously thinking about upgrading my Forks from the stock 35 on it!
Great honest review (as usual).
Got to agree Trek Rail is my favourite bike to date.
Rides awesome and ultra reliable, over 3500 miles on mine with no electrical issues at all.
How is the wear of your casette? My second cassette (sram eagle gx) is already worn and need the third after just 2500kms
Hey Rob,
I just ordered a new Rail 9.8 XT 2021 with a huge 25% discount from my local shop due to pandemic incentives.. so I'm super happy and excited to try it out soon.
Thank you for your videos and suggestions which helped me in my purchase.
25% off 😯 what bike shop is that 🤔
Great video and you actually helped with a fork recommendation I had asked you about in Instagram so brilliant! :) I also agree, Bosch motor is best in class in my opinion! I am good with dealign with the shortcomings with what we get in power/smoothness. Thanks!
The 9.8 carbon Rail has most of this as standard. Agree with all the upgrades Rob. Pirelli Scorpion front transformed the cornering.
I have had a DHRII on the rear of my Powerfly LT9.7 for over a year and I love the difference. Rolls much faster and I get more mileage. I do have a cushcore insert in the rear as well. I’ll never go back to the stock 2.8.
Great video👍 I agree with all the niggles you mentioned - key always gets stuck and the rattles!😩 my Rail 7 is the same - it’s in getting a kiox fitted now to get rid of the Purion!
hahaha!!! Totally agree with you about the old-fashion Purion display and holy key to put the battery.
Running same dpx2 on my remedy 7, love it so much ✌️
I have a brand new 2021 trek rail 5 sitting in my living room, because of the weather it’s been sitting for 3 weeks have not even rode in trails yet. But I did replace the fork with a SR Suntour Durolux rc2 170 mm. I’m on a budget and found one new for half price on pink bike. I did put carbon bars on and also minion 2.4. In USA we’re getting hammered with bad weather in northeast so it still might be another 3weeks before I can ride. This is longest I’ve ever been off my bike. Watching your videos are good but definitely not replacing actually riding. Yes the keys do SUCK but the display for me is not too bad.
Started on a Powerfly, traded it for an Intense Tazer and then bought a Rail 7 in Jan 2020. I've put 1500 miles on the Rail and its hands down the funnest bike I've ever owned. Only mods are a Super Deluxe on the rear, upgraded fork internals to a Lyrik Ultimate and E13 carbon wheels/Maxxis tires. Its a dialed ride now. If Bosch improves the Purion POS, the bike would be perfect. Nice review Rob.
Upgrade to the kiox display. And then you'll be able to buy the motor lock which also pairs the battery to the bike so a thief will NEED , the kiox display, the paired battery and motor to actually use the bike. Job done mate🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! The key system for Bosch batteries is there because the majority of Bosch ebike systems are sold on commuter bikes. I agree that it is pointless for most riders of E mountain bikes. Hope you are enjoying the UK snow with your family and get to ride in it with bike pilot! Ride ride ride!
Great video Rob cheers 👍🏻
The new Nyon display lets you customise the assistance modes, but it’s massive!
Hey Rob, nice Video about your Trek Rail 5. It was interesting to hear your personal opinion about it´s pros and cons.
Great video about upgrades and love this trek bike. I have just brought the rail. Will be making some of these upgrades. I’m going to buy the fox 170ml fork tho
Totally agree with the battery key situation, took my bike for a ride and went to install the battery at the trailhead but....my key was still at home.
Totally agree rob, my new cube stereo, has a bloody key , dam thing gets stuck too, just give me a Allen key any day , I do like the Bosch kiox display though
Yep key to put battery in pisses me off too!
I used duct tape for internal cables, a foot of tape along the cables stuck to the frame does a great job 👍
Nice one Rob, looks decent mate.
I picked up my Rail 9 just before Christmas, the first e-bike I've owned and I must say I'm really chuffed with it. (Especially since Trek raised the price from £5700 to £6300 a couple of weeks after I bought it!)
The only drama I've had is with the Trek own brand dropper post, which has started to stick. I'm 6'8'' and weigh about 19st... I'm not sure whether thats had any effect!? But it's going back for it's initial check up service in the next couple of weeks so I'll get the shop to sort it.
The key thing doesnt bother me too much, but I get where you're coming from, certainly when putting the battery back in - Why can't it have a click/locking mechanism when it's returned?
I have the Bosch eBike Connect app... and it's... pretty average. Certainly compared to the offerings I've seen from Shimano - It would be nice to have some more options within it.
The Rail 9 came with the Kiox display, which is neatly placed behind the stem on the top tube... I just couldnt face the Purion 🤢. Although it's not all that secure, so I stole one of my daughters hairbands and fashioned it into a lanyard - I've heard horror stories of them flying off and disappearing into the undergrowth...
Other than that, it's all good 🙌 Just waiting for lockdown to be lifted so I can take it to some more interesting places.
Take care and stay safe.
Tom.
Great review as usual Rob. When I lock my bike to a railing outside the cafe we often stop at on a ride I’m glad the £1000 battery is also locked. As for the Purion display, love it, best display/controller on the market, robust, ergonomic and 80s chic.
Hi John, do you think in this situation an Allen key hidden in rear axle would suffice? Many other brands do these kind of solutions and in my opinion are much better than a car style key. I doubt an opportunist thief would work out how to 1 - find the Allen key 2 - know how to release the battery. Unless they are a serial battery thief!
Hex key better than nothing for sure but still prefer a proper key.
@@RobRidesEMTB So a potential thief who watches your channel would know exactly where the allen key is hidden and will come to steal your battery with zero tools needed - how thoughtful. As to who would steal a battery, I always take my (Trek) battery upstairs (I live in an apartment block where each apartment has a locked storage area in the basement where I keeo my bike - it's alarmed foR anyone that may know me!!), as a deterent, so that if someone steals the bike he'll be without a battery ... until our friend who watched your channel and managed to get his filthy hands on one, comes to the "rescue". Still think the key is too much trouble to remove a Trek battery - you should try a Specialized or a Focus 😂😂
Hi Rob, I bought the same bike but in green, upgraded the brakes to XT and the same drivetrain as yourself, changed some other components like the grips bars and the dropper lever, I did notice mud building up on your battery, mine did the same on a slop fest, mud and water got to the battery terminals and the battery shutdown, I have since put a rubber seal top and bottom of the length of the battery and no more mud or water gets in to the battery compartment, and what I thought was cable slap coming from the cables under the battery was the battery knocking against the locking mech. top video BTW
Have the same problem with mud getting in the battery compartment. The sealing rubbers you used, are these standard?
@@awesomekungfupanda Hi, no i got them from Amazon www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08GXCTBH4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, been on my bike a month now and no issues. I cut them to length tucked them right in the groove then i pulled the tape from the adhesive while the rubber was in place.
Thanks for the detailed update on your Trek Rail project bike. Seems like this bike has really caught your attention and you seem to genuinely like the ride (especially with the updated suspension). You also like the Levo Comp Carbon - what characteristics of this Trek Rail do you like better than the Levo? How about the motors - Brose 2.1 vs updated Bosch? Thanks for you insights!
Glad i'm not the only one not being sucked into the overkill on tyres.
Sick vid Rob. Cheers for your opinion between the Lyrik and the Zeb. I'm gonna make the plunge and buy a Zeb in 180mm for my Enduro EMTB. Keep up the vids mate and ride safe 🤙
Cheers Neeko, both fantastic forks, the Zeb is so sweet I think you will love it 👊
I love my rail, the battery noise is easy to fix, just tighten those bolts screws according to recommended specs, i learned a lot from trek rail fb group page, the key thing is just getting use to it, i love that you can take battery indoors and access is easy, many fellow rail riders agree that this model is the e-slash version, the motor is smooth powerful, you actually dont need an app, it just adds to the clutter, the different modes are well thought of, its battery efficient and noise is a lot quieter relative to other motors, its bosch motor its realiable, brose breaks easily its light because its full of plastic parts inside
Great report! What is the frame size of the rail? I have a Rail 7 size M and would also like to install a One Up Components v2 210mm dropper. Does that fit with the length?
Good bike, Rob.
🤙🤙🤙🤙
Hi Rob, great performance enhancing suspension upgrades!! 👍 but I have a question. Given the influence of wheel diameter on the agility of a bike, which feels more agile, the longer slack Kenevo on 27.5 or the shorter, steeper Trek Rail on 29s?
You're so damn right again with the key thing. The fact that you need the key to put it back in, is what frustrates me most. I took apart the whole mechanism twice. Not a chance. With the old Gen 3 at least this was possible.
Don't know if an allen key's the right idea, though. But why don't just add a button in addition to the key, so that you don't have to lock it, but you can if your neighborhood suggests.
Marzocchi Bomber CR from Ebay is going to arrive tomorrow. I'll let you know if the 62.5 mm (65 with spacer) fits. Honesty, I have my doubts 😅.
Can you possibly get your hands on a rocky mountain powerplay I'd love to hear your thoughts on them?
Hi Rob, love watching your channel and it’s helpful while looking for an ebike.
I’m torn between 2 bikes unless you can throw something else out there.
I’m looking at trek rail and scott ransom. Wanting a Bosch motor and I’m 6’1 and 17.3stone. Looking to do decent length rides and like trail centres and like the quick downhills too.
What would you recommend and why and would a large or xl be better. Can’t get to try scott as they sell before they get in my lbs.
thanks Adam.
you pretty much built a 9.9 XTR, and that bike comes with the Kiosk display, the purion, I agree is not ideal. I have a 2020 9.9. -brilliant vid, appreciate you
Good information mate thank you. Will you be doing a bike video on the niner wfo e
I’ve got a Rail and wouldn’t want to lose the battery lock. The battery is worth about a grand and thieves will get a lot more savvy to that as ebikes get more popular. I don’t leave it alone to be fair but if you had to there is no other way to secure the battery like you can the whole bike with a chain.
Hi Tom, fair point for sure! I think that the point for me is that I never leave my ebike locked up / unattended so its a bit pointless, but I totally appreciate that others think its a good option to have :-) Cheers, Rob.
@@RobRidesEMTB I have the same key on my Orbea Wild FS. I guess the idea is that if the bike is nicked out of your garage etc. while you have the battery charging in the house, it then makes it difficult for the theives to fit another battery.
Thieves are very smart, the lock that holds the battery is useless. A thief could probably pick the lock in seconds. Watch the Chanel the lock picking lawyer and see what I mean. You know what the bike companies could do is put a way you can punch in a code on battery and on bike and if code doesn’t not match bike will not work.
@@BH-cy9tb the likelihood of a bike thief picking a lock , ANY lock is close to zero, specially not a high security Abus lock, that is fitted to the Treks. Also you can upgrade the Purion display that is on Robs bike with a Kiox and then you can get the motor and battery lock software which renders the motor and battery useless without the kiox display. There is also and App too. Another wee thing Rob was moaning about. Hope this helps. 🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
Excellent review and upgrades Rob. I just recently picked up a Rail 9.7 and love it as well with some upgrades going on as well. Stock is not bad, but going with parts that better suit me. Getting a Zeb myself, but have to wait a couple of months. Eventually want to replace the shock. What size shock for the 163mm travel, still fair amount of clearance with seat tube at full shock compression?
The Kiox display enables use of the Bosch app btw...however you've got the Purion so you'd have to upgrade.
thanks thats good to know - does it all work the same as the Nyon?
@@tonyhowell32 nyon had more features...but I guess kind of?
Are you going to do a detailed review on the turbo levo FSR or comp 2021? You did a small one a couple off weeks ago but it was only an intro.
Hi Rob thanks for doing this vlog. Just wondering regarding your mullet experiment. Did you use the high setting on the flip chip? So was it still too slack even in the hi setting? Thanks again.
Hey Rob,
already love the project!
I'm currently building up my own Rail 2020, just fitted a Bomber CR (almost fitted) and Fox 38 Performance Elite. Next in line is the dropper.
Did you insert the 210mm One Up completely into the frame? I'd need around 190-195mm of it's travel, so I'll have to install the travel adjustment shims and insert it completely into the frame. Not sure if there's enough space. Little advice would be great! 😊
Hi Rob, could you do a quick comparison of this Trek Rail and your Dengfu build?
I don't have an issue with the key at all. I'd spray some silicone lubricant into your key hole to stop your key sticking. When I leave the house I always take my keys so I can get back in. I think it's the best design out of all of the bikes I've seen.
Hey Rob,
My cube stereo 160 has the same bloody lock and key issue, I can live with unlocking for releasing the battery but why can’t it just be clipped back in..
Did both the Lyrik and the Zebb have the same damper and offset? More details on the versions of the fork would be helpful.
Same issue one the orbea wild abus key lock it is garbage.I snapped a key 2 replacement locks still had issues.
I was not on the kiox display to.
Cable rattle my bike sounded bike a bag off spanner’s.best think I did was move my wild on
Hopefully I have better luck with the rise 🤞🤞
hey!
my scott genius came with XT and Deore parts, but with KMC e12S chain. Would you suggest to change it to Shimano chain?
I read a review that Shimano chains dont last too long, but i dont want to miss the Hyperglide thing.
Like your videos and reviews. I still ride a first gen Merida E one sixty (Frame/motor/battery original all other parts upgraded) and will not change bike in the near future. I really do not understand why everyone wants integrated battery. Only bike I would consider at the moment would be the Lapierre GLP2 since it has the battery at the right place and a Bosch motor but as you mentioned the integration is truly terrible. Even my 2014 Haibike Xduro Nduro 9.0 has a better remote!! And totally agree with key issues. I really hope the manufacturers are listening to all TH-cam e bike channels! How does the Trek compare to the Merida?
Keep up the good work!
I like the Kiosk integration on the newer Trek Rails
What do they sell put of their kiosk??? Sweets? Crisps and general bike parts??
@rob : did you test the stock Trektro 4p breakes? My wife just bought the Rail 9.5 (Rail 5 w. Carbon frame) and they seem to operate well, apart maybe for lever ergonomics...
I went back and watched the first video to see if there was anything about range. One of my favourite rides is 52Km with 1200m climbing. Takes about 3hr45mins on a regular bike. Would it be able to do that comfortably ?
14:12 Spray the keyhole with lube or DW40 spray, this will prevent it from freezing, or getting sluggish. unless it's damaged, or key is damaged.
Hi Rob always watch your channel ..I know you have done a lot of motor tests but I have a specific question ..what motor gives the most consistent assistance and power with the least effort ..ride on mainly flat trails ..the reason I ask is because I have a serious health problems that limit my strength and energy..many thanks j
Hi Rob, I’ve got 2021 rail with the SLX brakes on, also got a new / spare set of Magura MT7s - would you say it’s a worthwhile upgrade, worth the time and effort changing the brake system or think stick with the SLX’s?
I agree rob, I'm not keen on the lock and 🔑 My bike would not be left around for anyone to get anyware near the battery.. Do you prefer the Trek rail over the jam2 6.9 ?
I did the same thing with the rear shock on my trek rail 9.7 the dpx2 is such a great upgrade!
What stroke length do you have? I put a 60mm stroke length on mine, I didn't want to go bigger because I was afraid of the rear triangle hitting
Hi Rob, was just wondering, have you played around with the flip chip at all and if so which position do you prefer?
Maybe have the option to ditch the keys when ordering. I myself personally like the key system. Yes it is a pain and yes the keys do get stuck often, but that area where you need the keys to get the battery back in is a good theft deterrent. If you say did your due diligence and removed the battery ahead of time and said thief takes it he'll be pretty pissed if he cant get a new battery in...im sure he would eventually find a way though.
Rob, how much does the 170mm fork change the reach number? I’m 6’1” and always in between Large and XL sizes. I’d like to run a 170mm fork but afraid it would shrink the reach too small on the Large and push the wheelbase too far on the XL. Any thoughts and insights would be appreciated. Thanks!! Great video
The newer trek rail 9.7 and above seem to have fixed the ugly control center on the bars and moved it to the frame. Is that the fix you were looking for? Still not as clean as the specialized but I think it’s better then what’s on your bike. Maybe you can upgrade to that?
is there any issue with the XT shifter being able to do multiple shifts up and down the cassette with the added power of the ebike?
@Rob Rides EMTB
Love the channel!! I'm stuck on my Bike decision, I am torn between a Levo comp and a Rail 9!!
I'm a light rider and ride fairly aggressive, I will hit decent size jumps, most of my riding will be hard big rocks on dart Moor, but as I'm fit I enjoy riding quick up as well as down and enjoy getting to the top of the hill first.
I've ridden both styles of the types of suspension before and enjoy how they feel, I have owned 5 trek bikes previously with last being a slash so I'm familiar with the good bad and ugly with the brand and local dealer.
The Rail is slightly slacker so has a slight edge on appeal there and has a Bosch motor, but the levo I know my warranty issues are going to be dealt with FAST and the trek I will probably have a 14day wait at least. And I know with regular hard riding there will be warranty issues at some point even with good maintenance.
Would love to hear your opinion considering you have ridden both bikes?
Thanks Nath
Nice bike very satisfied
Hi Rob, any news on Bosh and that rattle, I have Orbea Wild and I notice it. Can it be fixed and does that goes in warranty? Thank you.
Hi Rob, I recently bought the Trek rail 7 (after a bad experience with a Haibike alms 7) I would appreciate your thoughts on best components to turn it into mullet set up. Would be much appreciated. Cheers
Hey Rob, it sounds like you're a fan of the Bosch motor. Have you tried the proprietary motor in the Rocky Mountain Instinct/Altitude ?? Rocky has a magical piece of kit (my opinion).
Would love to hear more about this... Yes when the lube runs out it sounds like a WW1 tank, but I'd like to know how the performance and feel compares!
Just dawned on me, you are perhaps one of few who could express an opinion on this. Vitus E-Sommet 2019 vs Trek Rail 2021? I've ordered a Rail but now my E-Sommet is fixed i'm wondering whether to go thru with it!
Hey Rob it's been a year or so wondering if your still riding your Rail. How has it lasted? I noticed the motor is quite noisy. I also have had what sounds like cable slap inside the battery tray. Other than that it's been a joy to ride. Very happy with my rail so far. I will
Great listening to your videos however can you find a video or an installation how to install a Bosch kiox Display. ????
Any chance of a Ebay link for the Gopro mount please Rob!!
Waiting for my Trek Rail 5 to arrive😢
bit.ly/3adrBcy
We need more content rob 🙏
A Winter of lockdown not being able to get to the proper mountains, Alps trips that have been cancelled 3 times, flat sloppy local rides, constant bike cleaning for hardly worth it local excersie rides and did I mention the mud. But the thing that bugs me most, is I need a key to remove my battery from my ebike. 🤣
Still another great video though rob ;-)
Rob have you experienced the dreaded chainring rubbing the chainstay issue with your Rail?? I’ve got a 9 on order, but a bit worried
Buy a fork cork, stash your key in the steerer tube, a very clean and secure solution.
It may as well fit inside the OneUp tool compartment. I have one here, gonna try that tomorrow.
Storing one key on the bike itself is a great idea I think.
@@akabukiman agreed, the good thing about the fork cork is that very few people would think of looking for anything at the bottom of the steerer tube, hiding in plain sight.
Great video, Rob. I imagine you bought the XL, how is the fit. I'm 6'5"?
HI Rob, we are all eagerly awaiting a further ride review having done these mods
Soon :-)
Cool. I did similar mods….Hope cranks, chainring, stem, carbon bars and brakes the ZEB ultimate 170mm and the thrushaft Rockshox rear shock. Next will be wheels and tyres
Still waiting lol
@@RobRidesEMTB
I use a Nyon on my CX cos I can customise the power via the Portal - Can the Kiosk do this?
Trek Rail is a fantastic bike, it rides so well! ps - Has anyone met anyone that actually likes a key for a battery? Has anyone had a battery stolen from a bike?
I have Cube stereo hybrid 140 Tm and it has same thing that you need a key to remove or to put battery back to bike. I think its solid mechanism so battery cant fall off while you are riding (Cube has different battery integration than Trek) but that key gets stuck often which is anoying. So I think there is pros and cons.
I've just bought a trek powerfly 9.7 2019 same design. After charging indoors, I left the battery hanging in the frame while I went back to find the key and the battery fell out chipping the paintwork next to the 'K' on Trek. Two big lumps missing. Furious. Guted. Only had it a week. Dont risk it kids!
I have a Rail and love it. Where I live I could leave my wallet on the seat and it probably wouldn’t get stolen but you know what, I still like the idea of having a locking battery. Petty crime was more of an issue in the UK. We went on holiday once and came back to find our hanging baskets stolen. It won’t be long before the thieves get wise to that unsecured easy picking in the down tube. I often have the bikes on the rack when nipping in the store to get food or pay for fuel. Wouldn’t take many seconds to pop off an unlocked battery. Sad times we live in. Lock it or risk loosing it.
@@justinscottparry8476 the Trek battery plate is only £40. So it's an option to replace it
Will try switching my 2,6 1,3Kg Vittoria Enduro Tires with trail version. Won't be able to user 2,4 on a 35mm rims :(
Rob, have you traded Specialized for Trek?
How do these two e bikes compare?
Pros cons Turvo Levo vs Trek (when you've had a chance to try them out)
Greetings from Spain
Rob, any chance you can fit a 230x65 Fox DPX2 on a large rail 7?
Personally i like the battery system.i got a powerfly and its NEVER been a pain for me ,its brilliant idea.getting a rail soon 😁
i love Trek
Hi Rob, I own a Rail 9.8xt but I recently had an issue where my fork got damaged. It's covered by insurance but you cannot buy a Zeb Select+ (especially with the emtb crown) off the shelf, it only comes with a complete bike. My local bike shop spoke to the Rockshox rep who recommended the budget ebike ZEB as a replacement. This has the EMTB crown but much more basic dampers and no compression adjustment. However the rep says it's stiffer than the ultimate Zeb. Do you agree or would you recommend the ZEB Ultimate for an ebike? Any advice would be much appreciated. Cheers.
I'd go for the Zeb ultimate for sure, Its a shame that the crown doesnt match (mine is too slim at the bottom and doesnt look quite right).
Bosch retro ,it may come back in time.!!!
Not sure how a small key is any less convenient than any other tool. Plenty of ways to stow it and while it can be fiddly it protects from theft; yes some of us have to chain bikes up in places where they nick your saddle, so a £900 battery would be gone in 60seconds!
Totally agree it’s a backward step needing the key to put it back in though, my old Powerfly 5 lets you snap it back without the key.
I find the spec on my 2021 Rail7 pretty spot on and it has XT and Shimano brakes plus a Yari fork which is closer to the Lyric in feel so worth the modest extra cost over the 5. The key issue is getting hold of one as in the U.K. they are sold out for most of 2021. Also, quality seems down on my previous Treks, I think demand is causing build standards to slip, mine came with speed sensor faults causing the motor to cut in and out and was at the dealers three weeks awaiting a part.
Tyres are way to wide for me and cause handling/speed issues, so swapped to a 2.35 Rock Razor on the back to speed it up. I’ll look at a narrower faster front tyre when the winter passes as for now that extra girth is pretty useful in the British mudfest.
Great video. So do you like this better than your Levo?
I recommend to try squirting some graphite lock lube into the lock cylinder...bet it cures your sticky battery lock condition 👍🏻
That's why I didn't buy a CX 4th generation end of 2019. i change from CX 3th Bosch to Shimano E8000 on Decoy.
Way better and the Decoy is awesome and works for me.💪🏽
I don‘t want use a Nokia 6210🤣.
Hi rob I have a trek rail 9.8 x large frame I need a replacement rear shock what would u recommend love the vidoes
Hi Rob, just a q on the battery fitment. If the battery is locked in place and you push on the battery cover up top, there seems to be a 2mm gap (one can still press it in further) but at the bottem it sits flush. Is yours like this too? And also, the gap between the frame and battery, does water and dirt go inside there?
Thanks
Being 6'3 what size frame did you go for? Thank you for the review 👍
noise is a problem, always prefer as quiet bike as possible, so I can hear potential loose or issues with components.