Air Gun Spring Upgrade! the quest for FPS!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ม.ค. 2022
  • Air Gun Spring Upgrade!
    after last weeks video we gained about 40 fps by porting the transfer port .021" now in search of more power we will upgrade the piston spring. in this video I show step by step the process required to swap the piston spring in a Ruger air hawk which came from the big box store rated at 495 fps.
    disclaimer
    way up here in canada! any thing with a rifled barrel that fires a projectile over 500 fps is classified as a firearm and falls under the same rules as a firearm which requires you to hold a valid PAL. if you don't have a PAL you shouldn't perform the mods seen in this video. You are responsible to make the decisions whether you mod your over 500 fps. I am not liable for any damages, accidents or anything else is you decide to mod your air gun.
    sit back and enjoy the scientifical journey I'm about to show you!
    please Comment , Like , and SUBSCRIBE!!!
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  • @raulmiron8670
    @raulmiron8670 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    where can i buy a stronger spring?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Vortekproducts.com

  • @la2123
    @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your method of assembling mainspring is definitely ingenious.

  • @petercope3263
    @petercope3263 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this was one of the most enjoyable vids i have watched on tweaking air rifles , and has helped me gain a little more confidence to have a go on my own rifle as and when i need to GREAT JOB thanks for taking the time to share this , stay good from uk .

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much Peter!

    • @johnmueller155
      @johnmueller155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So did you try taking it apart?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not yet been busy with other content

    • @johnny2f55
      @johnny2f55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      7:01

  • @djaxclips
    @djaxclips ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent idea making the spring compressor. Makes the job alot easier 👍

  • @Interdiction
    @Interdiction 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Moronic how the govts of certain countries see these as Firearms .In the 70s we have 20 ft lb air rifles .The one and only reason the 12 ftlb rule came in was to protect the British air rifle makers as they could not compete with the HW german make. Treating adults like kids is moronic

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Most of the laws are idiotic and they say it’s to prevent crime lol people committing crime don’t care about the law anyway so just let us have some freedom

    • @garybrantley6711
      @garybrantley6711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The more laws, the less justice-Cicero. Great video! @@BROTUNED

    • @bajadan2769
      @bajadan2769 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I simply dont follow these ridiculous laws Im surprised more people dont - especially the Britts .

    • @user-cf5cs5mg5c
      @user-cf5cs5mg5c หลายเดือนก่อน

      What ever you say but you really should do the math . 👍

    • @itsoktoberight4431
      @itsoktoberight4431 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Our government class gel blasters, paintball guns and Airsoft as firearms. We still have real guns just need a license

  • @ApolloFX_CZ
    @ApolloFX_CZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a problem! Have a great day

  • @grahamtodd2335
    @grahamtodd2335 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Make two short pins the size of the trigger group so that you can push out the long pins and leave the two short ones in place to keep the trigger group all in line and it makes assembly a doddle as everything is held in place and the safety simply slides in again no problems I made mine from brass rod and they are a godsend for servicing the rifle. The video is great and the results are very good you are doing a great job. And Nice to see someone actually doing things the safe way. Keep on keeping on stay safe from the UK.

  • @d.b.94
    @d.b.94 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a cheap B2 Chinese. 22 air rifle that the spring got weak after couple of years. So bought a vortek spring for the rifle same length as the old one played hell getting the new one in. And cocking was hard also. So I cut the new spring down a couple of coils and flatten and polish the end. That rifle shoots 10 time better then when I first bought new awesome now. I even got one of their moly seal for that rifle even better. Vortek Inc. make great products for your air rifles American made from Michigan. More fps dose not mean better accuracy that's what you want accuracy with the right fps. And the right pellets also. Good luck bud.

    • @ianmcnulty3279
      @ianmcnulty3279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I took an HW 80 up to 24 ft-lbs then dropped it back to 18 ft-lbs if it's done right you get very little recoil. At 24 ft-lbs the group size at 35 yards was around 10 inches at 18 ft lbs the group size was < 3/4 inch

  • @r123brown
    @r123brown หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job on the clamp. Thanks for sharing BT

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @miketurner3964
    @miketurner3964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just for balance of course…
    Many years ago a friend of mine, whilst putting an Ox in his Hw35 got the breech block cross threaded.
    He brought it over so we could mount it in my jig and hopefully resurrect the situation.
    Well..couldn’t get it out so I held the breech tight with a leather gauntlet, while he twisted.
    Some you guys will know that the HW spring carrier is roughly cut and splayed out in a cross shape - remember the roughly cut bit, it’s important.
    Yep..we twisted..something thudded onto my thumb and the spring went airborne.
    The first sign of trouble was that there didn’t seem to be a proper thumb in the thumb of the gauntlet any more.
    There was a neat “v” shaped cut in the leather where my thumb should have been.
    The spring carrier went through the leather, hit the top of the base of my thumb, went through down to the bone and dislocated it so it was laying next to my wrist.
    One surgery and plenty of ribbing later, all was good.
    Still got my Venom arms
    HW 77k, must be 35years old and I’d still rather hunt with it than use my pre charged rifles.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ouch

  • @jeep291
    @jeep291 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you sir I learned again about the length and the diameter of the Main Spring less 2.3 !!!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I enjoy reading the comments

  • @davidschmidt6013
    @davidschmidt6013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    They have these things now, they're called 'workbenches',..or something like that...

  • @wm.traynor1143
    @wm.traynor1143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a huge clamp you've got there mate😄😄

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Better to compress my springs 😆

  • @donaldrush1364
    @donaldrush1364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another Great video. Thank you so much.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheer

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Donald

  • @danchant9
    @danchant9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man what a good video....I was really impressed with the gun vice may steal your idea its perfect!!!!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya good ahead it’s very simple to make and you don’t need any expensive tools

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Makes it so much easier

    • @danchant9
      @danchant9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's one of a kind!! Thanks for sharing

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your welcome Dan! Cheers and enjoy

  • @carlosgallegos7363
    @carlosgallegos7363 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The space of the compressed spring is already determined so that it engages, what is your idea? Buy an equal spring but of better quality. greetings

  • @catherineharris4746
    @catherineharris4746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding!👍👍👍

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much Catherine Harris really appreciate that. Cheers!

  • @Leadheadsam
    @Leadheadsam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video thanks, u made a Perfect spring compressor, I’m gonna make one 👍

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad it helped

  • @neilthomas9365
    @neilthomas9365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like your gun jig,im making one of those bad boys. Will make it loads easier 👍

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s so much easier than trying to do it without this. The factory spring was fine but as soon as you upgrade it it’s a must have

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi, I am about ready to change my spring - but I don't have a spring compressor or the means to make the version you use (I saw your video on how to make it and it is very good, it's just not something I can make at the moment). Is there a way to do this without a compressor? Ie by putting pressure yourself on the spring using the flat head of a file etc? I know it won't be as easy or as safe, but is there a way? Thanks!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ya you do that but it’s a sketch situation so just spend $30 and build one so you can do it again safely from now on

  • @SDSypher
    @SDSypher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    “throw it in the spring compressor”
    **does it with bare hands, pliers, and a flathead**

    • @itsoktoberight4431
      @itsoktoberight4431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I don't remember using a spring compressor last time I did it

  • @andyjame6351
    @andyjame6351 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    very satisfied with this product

  • @johnhutchinson5398
    @johnhutchinson5398 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What brand of pellet rifle is that dude ? Never seen one exactly like it. Great work on that spring compressor. That comes in handy for sure. Great work thanks for the video dude.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a ruger air hawk 177 495 fps

  • @MechTactical
    @MechTactical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love it

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy we should do a video together sometime

    • @MechTactical
      @MechTactical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED 100% my man... 100%

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi - this was such a useful video - thank you. I just have a few questions if you don't mind -
    a) what's the name of that flat-lying vice-like thing with the screw adjuster clamped to the end? (The thing you put the barrel in to work on)?
    B) I see you ordered the spring cut to 34 coils, but you said you realised you had to cut a couple more off. How were you able to tell that, and to know how much to cut off? (I ask so that I'll know when i do the same thing)
    C) you mention something about "locking" the screws at the end- do you mean using "thread lock" liquid?
    D) I'm going to order from the website you linked, specifying at 34 coils - the 142 Wire Spring 830OD. Will this spring fit most springer makes and models, or only certain ones? I have a variety of springers so would be good to know if it could work with any of them.
    Cheers!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A) is a spring compressor I came up with to work on springers. I made a video on making it.
      B)the reason I had to cut it was because it ended up binding up so I had to shorten it to allow the spring to compress. I cut a bit then tested it until the main spring compressed without any binding. Takes some time unless you make big incremental cuts
      C) blue locktite is a good idea on anything that moves or vibrates

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It will work in some for sure 👍🏻 but there’s a lot of springers out there so I’m sure it won’t fit in a good majority of them

  • @bobdefiglio2.045
    @bobdefiglio2.045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude.... thank you!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem cheers!

  • @georgelaplante1129
    @georgelaplante1129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy new years Ryan. Would you have any links or know who could mod my webley tracker. Thanks from Vancouver Island.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No sorry not really familiar with that one

  • @dspencer8827
    @dspencer8827 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please can you tell me is the new spring longer and or stiffer than the original one in the rifle .thanks

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s a bit longer and stiffer

  • @craigdouglasmartens7037
    @craigdouglasmartens7037 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice enjoin hebackground. What style o yu play? Frailing, traitionalor Earl Scruggs picking? I'm a bluegrass and d time rythm and flatpicking guitarist myself. I have a Hatsan model 85 .22 open sights which I'm really enjoying. 850fps.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s my Dan Electro DC 59 bass guitar. I mostly play punk rock and metal on both bass and guitar.

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi mate- from the catalogue you link, there is a "148 Wire Spring 905 OD".
    I've figured out this means Outer Diameter is 0.905 inches = 22.5mm.
    What I don't understand is the "148". Is this the strength/ thickness of the wire itself? If so, is 148 a good standard to stick to? Cheers!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’d have to check on the order form but I think .148” would be the thickness of the wire

    • @johnny2f55
      @johnny2f55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BROTUNED Cheers mate, I appreciate that you take the time to reply to questions!

  • @ClarkesonTheMarksman
    @ClarkesonTheMarksman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video man. Can you attempt this on a gamo speedster? to uprate the spring for more ft/lbs and fps?
    Cheers

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ll have to find one but I will if I can get one definitely

  • @mikecyanide6714
    @mikecyanide6714 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can these springs go in red ryders?

  • @MsFrogger75
    @MsFrogger75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Should use a nitro piston spring with a 5/16 shaft and piston should be 155 mm long

  • @lionheart9692
    @lionheart9692 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's not just me who wants to make things more powerful than they are intended lol 😆

    • @pevaughn
      @pevaughn ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you are never alone...lol

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People always want to be better. There's even a TH-camr modified his break barrel into a gun that fires using nail gun powder loads.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s awesome what’s the channel I’m curious to see this in action

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED I believe many countries did it but the ones I found mainly Indonesians. This guy demonstrates how the muzzle flash would look like if a nail gun powder load (purple code = strong charge) was placed into the drilled BSA barrel (Indonesian limit is 4.5mm, powder loads is 5.5mm, rim 6.5mm)
      th-cam.com/video/QAL3YRPdZyI/w-d-xo.html

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED Here's another one, this guy shows how he loads the powder load and uses modified piston as firing pin. The making process can be found in his channel.
      th-cam.com/video/qw8FOIZAK7Y/w-d-xo.html

  • @neilgilbert830
    @neilgilbert830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How would you s screw the end cap back on say if it was a hw 80 with it being under pressure

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess you couldn’t unless you can figure out a way to hold the tube securely and have the back exposed

  • @edwheeler6396
    @edwheeler6396 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Air Hawk Elite one pump pellet rifle the ball that rode on the barrel that helped cock it came off in the spring came out but the ball fell down in the barrel

  • @DiscusRussell
    @DiscusRussell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Flatten both ends of the spring, grind flat then polish to a mirror finish. Hope this helps you

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks very much for the tip I’ll give it a go

    • @brodylockley3141
      @brodylockley3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why mirror finishing

    • @DiscusRussell
      @DiscusRussell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@brodylockley3141 The spring rotates when compresses and uncompressed so a rough finish after flattening hinders the rotation. The smoother the whole firing cycle will increase accuracy

    • @brodylockley3141
      @brodylockley3141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DiscusRussell thank u

  • @grock1515
    @grock1515 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome tutorial, thanks!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome

  • @Lilparis100.
    @Lilparis100. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We jus need the lil table u have for sale ?? 😂😂

  • @philpinkney9238
    @philpinkney9238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid 👍

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks phil

  • @shawsmining
    @shawsmining หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ive been looking for a spring upgrade for my Beeman silver Kodiak dual cal.i want more power

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out vortekproducts.com/

  • @airsoft3563
    @airsoft3563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you think it possible to 3d print a spacer to insert into the airgun to get higher fps whit the same spring?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh I’m sure you could 100%

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Test and tune basically

  • @neiledwards8931
    @neiledwards8931 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just to let you know, your spring end is not finished correctly , you should heat it up with a blow lamp then when it gets red pinche the top coil so its inline with the coil unneath it pointed nose pliers then let it cool down naturally before placing it back into the action.

    • @hieronimgabka4601
      @hieronimgabka4601 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bullshit. You have to temper this end of spring after inline coil modification. Otherwise this end of spring is soft. Ofcourse you have to smooth the ends of spring on both side for mirror surface. This method prevent vibrations, make shooting softer, and reduces gun kicking.

    • @neiledwards8931
      @neiledwards8931 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Hieronim Gąbka Big Bull Shit you are stating, you collapse the spring with heat then pinch it to the coil underneath it , you let the spring cool down naturally no need at all for water or oils. It appears you know nothing about Springer Bull Shiter .

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing this I’ll have to go back in and change this

  • @thebestsoccer2063
    @thebestsoccer2063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any tips for improving the fps on the glock 17 bb gun gen 3?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have never looked into it but if there’s a will there’s a way

  • @user-hb6kr3zb7v
    @user-hb6kr3zb7v ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it an umarex ruger hawk air rifle?I just got one myself today,if it's the same model,I can just apply the spring size you use to mine

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is a ruger air hawk 495 fps and in .177

    • @user-hb6kr3zb7v
      @user-hb6kr3zb7v ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED really appreciate

    • @user-hb6kr3zb7v
      @user-hb6kr3zb7v ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BROTUNED How many coils that spring still have after you cut it,I want to save that step so I don't need to cut and grind myself😂

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No problem thanks for your comment

  • @la2123
    @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do we consider a stronger spring for upgrade? Is it longer, harder, or thicker than the original? Thanks.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes basically that’s correct ✅ but don’t go overboard on thickness because you’ll get coil bind and make cocking it way harder for not much return in velocity. I found the gun shot best at around 600 fps

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED Noted, thanks for the tips.

    • @lionheart9692
      @lionheart9692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're can you order stronger springs please.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vortekproducts.com is the site I believe

  • @rileybeer2836
    @rileybeer2836 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is the only other gun like that i have ever seen...that is the same as mine...is that a spa xt208

  • @user-cf5cs5mg5c
    @user-cf5cs5mg5c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anything over 12 foot pounds makes the gun less accurate simple law of physics proven . Doesn't matter what make of gun more important is gun weight but the laws of gravity × physics is finite. The point the pellet is less than a quarter of the way down the barrel at 800 fps that's fact that's life . Good video.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I enjoy it most at around 650 fps but I just wanted to see what it would do

  • @sassobasso
    @sassobasso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 7,5 joule umarex .177 air gun and i want to mod it, what do you suggest? Like lubing the piston or what spring should i get, Thanks🙏

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว

      The biggest thing that makes the biggest difference is changing the main spring to something stiffer. Vortekproducts.com

    • @sassobasso
      @sassobasso ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED i have no idea what i should get, any ideas?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You will have to either take yours apart and take measurements of the stock stuff then get another spring with the same diameter but thicker coils or more coils.

  • @enochsawit8420
    @enochsawit8420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi friend, where did you get the new spring from? Thanks I am in Canada too.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Search up vortek springs

    • @johnhutchinson5398
      @johnhutchinson5398 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have springs like this with different sizes and very strong at most hardware stores that’s equipped with a good stock of things like springs to bearings.

  • @markwest8960
    @markwest8960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Found an older one than this in my dad's stuff.....he died a few years ago. Would love to have someone that knows what they're doing to fix mine. I tried some new pellets and it's not working. The pellet basically just drips/falls out of the barrel. Know anyone in western NC that may know how to fix it. I took it to a local gun shop and they wouldn't look at it.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does it cock and spring back when you pull the trigger. May just need new seals and to clean up the inside of the piston tube

    • @markwest8960
      @markwest8960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED , yes, it does. I have no idea if my dad ever did any of that so I'll try to check it out and see. Thank you very much!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok good luck with the gun hope you get it working

    • @martinkelsey275
      @martinkelsey275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If its a .22 the old ones are 5.6 not the newer version 5.5 tryfinding the old style ammo

    • @markwest8960
      @markwest8960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@martinkelsey275 , thank you

  • @phillipsharpe6459
    @phillipsharpe6459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Power is nothing without accuracy, what are your groups like at say 30 yards, ?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely not as good as the lighter spring. I know what you’re saying though.

  • @deksamtorrac6518
    @deksamtorrac6518 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, how many FPS was it before?
    Wish you had a before and after on this gun.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a 495 fps gun originally I believe it was in the 460’s before any mods

  • @weaponman3872
    @weaponman3872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I put a stronger spring on a youth break barrel

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t see why not. Would make the cocking harder though

  • @carloscollomps1552
    @carloscollomps1552 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder how much dieseling would increasing fps with this setup.

    • @ianmcnulty3279
      @ianmcnulty3279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A lot but no accuracy though no consistency

  • @user-ni9ux4ks2d
    @user-ni9ux4ks2d 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Que resorte le puso al rifle para que tire mas fuerte? Expliquelo por favor

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I went to vortekproducts.com you can find the springs there

  • @Sniper_Pulo
    @Sniper_Pulo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wowww... top gun..
    greetings one hobby friend. let's drink coffee together☕🍵👈

  • @jimstewart5008
    @jimstewart5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What I am interested in is how harsh is the recoil and what is accuracy like now?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With the big spring it’s a bit much going to go back to the previous one for sure. Not worth the trade off

    • @jimstewart5008
      @jimstewart5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BROTUNED been down that road years ago there is only a certain amount of volume for air in an airgun and using a heavy spring creates piston slam and harsh recoil not to mention the strain on everything cocking arm, contact points and trigger sear. If you make another video maybe explain that to the views, I am afraid people new to airguns, may destroy a perfectly good airgun

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ya I will make a new vid about this issue

    • @malcytull
      @malcytull ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimstewart5008 I found out by accident on my HW80, many years ago, just adding a small weight inside the front of the piston & then cutting off four coils from the spring, that put the power up & made it more comfortable to shoot. The trouble was, it took it over our 12ft/lbs limit so I put a standard spring back in & brought it back to how it was. It was a good experiment though.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s very interesting

  • @petergore1972
    @petergore1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peter Gore Seer,
    There Are Some Fantastic Springs Sold, Oval Shaped Springs. There Are Some Guns With Barrels Bent.

    • @ianmcnulty3279
      @ianmcnulty3279 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Look for an OX spring square section

  • @joehenry447
    @joehenry447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi , nice job , how much did you gain and where did you get your spring from .

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Over stock it almost doubled the velocity and I purchased the springs from vortek.com

    • @joehenry447
      @joehenry447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OK , Thank you and that link does not work .

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      vortekproducts.com/ourstore/index.php?route=product/category&path=64

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn’t remember the exact site but it is vortekproducts.com

    • @joehenry447
      @joehenry447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That link worked and Thank You :=}

  • @josephasmar416
    @josephasmar416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi I have crossman .177 it’s not getting the pellets out , I have to shoot about 7 times before the pellet comes out, some debris is coming out, do you know how to fix it, thanks

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you piston seal is faulty? Is this a new rifle? Ammo shouldn’t make a difference as long as it is .177. Possibly the seal on the barrel is missing or damaged? Have you ever taken the rifle apart?

    • @josephasmar416
      @josephasmar416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s actually marksman 177, Do you have a video how to replace the seal

    • @josephasmar416
      @josephasmar416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s about 20 years old , but I keep it in good shape, but I kept it in the shed outside throughout summer and winter, maybe seal is not good anymore. I never took it apart, but after watching your video I’m going to try

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could be rusted inside. You’ll have to check it out and perhaps hone the cylinder and get a rebuild seal kit online.

    • @josephasmar416
      @josephasmar416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you

  • @mikegreen9492
    @mikegreen9492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What increase in fps did you get? You never showed the results - only the final result. Was it worth it?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I to be totally honest want to go back to the light factory spring at about 490 fps it was just a lot easier to shoot. The big spring makes the recoil get very sharp and cocking it is a workout. I guess it depends what you want to do with it. For target plinking 600 is what I would recommend

  • @user-zj3wr4eg1e
    @user-zj3wr4eg1e ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What makes a spring stronger, the thickness or the number of the coils?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m guessing the thickness and the number of coils would make it stiffer.

    • @rileybeer2836
      @rileybeer2836 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably the thickness

    • @johnibbertson2960
      @johnibbertson2960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rileybeer2836 if you strengthen spring surely recoil will be worse?

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've read about the Ox Accelerator mainspring are square section and thus provides 40% more compression and power. If you're familiar with misumi spring you'll know square are better than regular round section coil.

    • @la2123
      @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How it's treated during the manufacturing process as well as what it's coated with will also overall improve your spring quality and durability.

  • @roseraee5369
    @roseraee5369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Where can I order a spring for my gamo varmint air gun in Canada ???

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว

      Vortekproducts.com

  • @James-vw3vt
    @James-vw3vt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The only problem with fitting a stronger spring is that it makes it harder to hit the target to much kick back

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree 100%

    • @peterpsaunders1
      @peterpsaunders1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did this once never again wast of time makes the gun inaccurate. And rough to use.

    • @rileybeingessner228
      @rileybeingessner228 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best ones I have found have a heavy stock to compensate.

  • @johndoee3850
    @johndoee3850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How much increase in velocity??Thanks

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn’t much but the more I go faster the more I want to put the light spring back in for quietness and light recoil. But I think it was in the 100fps range

  • @colbtron
    @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a crossman phantom . 22 500fps pellet gun from Walmart 99cad. I ordered a spring from vortek air springs... Brought it up to 1200 fps lol couldn't even keep a scope on it without a stop... Fuck it had some power... The spring was 12 bucks and like 30 to ship it to Canada lol well worth it

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fast little rifle!

    • @sRecollet
      @sRecollet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Always bothered that can't get ones higher then 500 fps here in canada like at Candian Tire and just bought one and want to get it closer to 1000, so will definitely try this :)

    • @colbtron
      @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @sRecollet just message them tell them what kind of gun you have and what your looking to do

    • @sRecollet
      @sRecollet ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@colbtron OK thanks. Checked out their site and seen like 15 listed but wasn't sure which one(s) would be compatible. Will definitely do that, thanks :)

    • @colbtron
      @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sRecollet where are you from ?

  • @Patrick-857
    @Patrick-857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wow some countries have super lame airgun laws.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ya your not kidding and the gun laws are even worse

    • @rarefruit2320
      @rarefruit2320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh my god I just read the description 😮

    • @chadbinette3201
      @chadbinette3201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Why you think the 2nd amendment is such a hot topic in the us, once they start it won't stop till we're hunting with slingshots.

    • @colly7912
      @colly7912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Give me 12 foot pounds air guns over submachine guns anyday. The guns ordinary people can buy in America are just pure insanity.. life is so cheap in America. So sad

    • @chadbinette3201
      @chadbinette3201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@colly7912 well sub machine guns are illegal in America so brush up. Handgun, shotguns, rifles, even the big bad ar-15 (which is NOT a machine gun) ALL require a background check and a CLEAN record. Bad people do bad things whether they have a gun or a butter knife.

  • @billt1954
    @billt1954 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Before anyone complains about this video please remember it was made for “scientifical” reasons 😂

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've heard that an alternative way to add potential energy to your existing spring is to stretch out each coil slightly - so that the entire spring becomes marginally longer, and so when it is compressed it holds more potential energy - is this true? Cheers!

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Makes sense but I haven’t tested it

  • @ianmcnulty3279
    @ianmcnulty3279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please take care if you don't have a Chrono or an FAC as if you get caught with a gun over 12 ft lbs the punishment is 5 years in prison no excuses not knowing the power is no excuse

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is correct it becomes a firearm over 500 fps and you must treat it and store it accordingly

    • @theodavies8754
      @theodavies8754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The sort of air rifle that does well to hit a phone book.
      Junk.
      Managing to get 5 years in prison with it would be tragic.

  • @pritesbas9247
    @pritesbas9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the springs same in .22 and .177 Cali guns

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would get not but could be wrong. At least on Canadian guns anyways. They have to be sold at below 500 fps to be a not firearm and to get the pellets to get there a .177 spring would not push the heavier .22 pellet at that velocity so I’d say it would have to be a bigger spring

    • @pritesbas9247
      @pritesbas9247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED So the answer is , you're not sure?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that is correct ✅

  • @colbtron
    @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try all copper pellets...expensive af...but they're light and retain their shape on impact...they do like 5x the damage....i used to shoot them into a block of wood , pick them out and shoot them again

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh ha ha that’s crazy the seriously don’t deform?

    • @colbtron
      @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @BROTUNED nope...I think they were like 29.99 for 50 at cabelas..real expensive...saved them for my best kills hahaha jack rabbits took a pounding when I was in Edmonton 😅

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is expensive

    • @colbtron
      @colbtron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED where are you out of?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว

      Like city? Country?

  • @happyrecluse2849
    @happyrecluse2849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found your vid timely. Opened up my Benjamin Classic 22 to see what is up. Chrono showing 426.
    Not much preload in the spring as I put a little pressure on cylinder the main support pin fell out...
    Gets better, Piston needed to be forced out using a probe to slide out of sleeve. Found scrubbing on the piston and ID of sleeve. Seal had metal filings embedded in it. Got pics to prove it.
    Removed spring and found one end squared of and reasonable smooth, However the other end appeared to be hacked off with bolt cutters and not squared or cleaned up. On the end of piston, seal end, there is a small hole drilled through not centered, not done obviously on a lathe...Metal chips....
    Got some work to do but need, to replace the seal and spring for sure after I calculate an appropriate length. Then lotsa polishing and lube. If this is how they "detune" for CA Market am not impressed. Bought this brand new and wasn't cheap at that time. Wish me luck cuz, skill is no problem here.
    Am not on the Quest for more FPS, just what I paid for.
    Just subbed and liked.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya I think they just detune them as fast as possible to get more out. You will have a great springer if you do all that for sure. Let me know how it turns out. Remember it magically turns into a firearm after 500 fps so a pal is required. Not sure if you have one but be mindful of that. Cheers buddy and good luck!

  • @averystewart1017
    @averystewart1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man u did what soo many wish 2 do ..Time constraints..😔
    Life i$ more than cha$ing money 1🤫

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100 % money 💰 is definitely not everything! I have enough to get by and that’s fine with me just want to enjoy the short time we have here. I enjoyed reading your comment. Have a great day sir

  • @haoneo9592
    @haoneo9592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can .22 spring be put in .177 rifle?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @thomaslietzau2813
    @thomaslietzau2813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    where did you get the springs and upgrades

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got my springs from vortekproducts.com

    • @thomaslietzau2813
      @thomaslietzau2813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED are they still in bussiness ?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe that they are but haven’t ordered from them in many years so not positive

  • @petegower2031
    @petegower2031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No front spring guide..... 😮

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Never had one

  • @traceypotts9425
    @traceypotts9425 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to do this when I was ten I used my weight to compress the spring and tap the pin out easy you don't need jigs and clamps crappy tools

    • @johncuthbertson2565
      @johncuthbertson2565 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You do when your old , 👴🏼
      😂
      I should know 😒

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m just trying to make it easier and less sketchy for myself and I was bored

  • @philiprobins5488
    @philiprobins5488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ryan, I have a Ruger Air Hawk .177 and would like to fit a moderator to help make it more backyard friendly. Any ideas?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’d have to get a gunsmith or machine shop to thread the barrel 1/2x28 if it’s thick enough then buy a can

    • @pevaughn
      @pevaughn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As long as it's legal where you live, you can probably make an effective moderator out of PVC pipe with a foam insert or lining.. All you'll need is some pvc pipe slightly smaller or same size as the end of the barrel , a heat gun, a saw/dremel, some foam, and some tape. Probably would look custom (weird)...but it should work.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Peter V yes that would definitely work but would be illegal in Canada not to sure what the laws are in the states so I would definitely look into that before making anything

    • @pevaughn
      @pevaughn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED .. That's why I started with the legal disclaimer. One day I wish it will be legal here in Canada like the UK... would be more sensible to help people's hearing and noise pollution wherever the guns are used.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I agree 110% but unfortunately all our government wants is to eliminate guns all together but wouldn’t that be awesome. The liberals are making hard drugs legal because that makes sense lol 😂. But guns are the problem they say. Smh 🤦‍♂️

  • @Mapleish
    @Mapleish ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you don’t have a pal license and make a 495 fps into something over 500 fps would that be illegal?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it magically 🪄 becomes a firearm. Isn’t that crazy

    • @Mapleish
      @Mapleish ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED oh how I love canada

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s only going to get worse

    • @Mapleish
      @Mapleish ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BROTUNED can’t wait for bill c21 to pass

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why?

  • @vimtonutts7371
    @vimtonutts7371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where did you get the spring from?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe the website is vortek.com or something like that

    • @vimtonutts7371
      @vimtonutts7371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Does widening the end of the barrel with a drill affect performance

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The muzzle would ruin performance I just matched the breach end to get the best flow through the port

  • @longyx321
    @longyx321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Lube ?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lots in there

  • @stevebrown8686
    @stevebrown8686 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should have bought yourself a table before the spring 😂

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True enough lol

  • @donaldrush1364
    @donaldrush1364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like a pain in the ass. I'd pay you to do it but im in London Ont. Canada eh.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m just up near Peterborough. Cheers Donald

    • @donaldrush1364
      @donaldrush1364 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BROTUNED same place as my favorite store.AGS. if your ever in London and want to make a couple bucks I have a crossman magfire mission that is screaming for a mod. Apparently it's just filling a hole with jb weld. Don't trust myself to do it though.😃

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok definitely if I’m out that way we can plan something

    • @donaldrush1364
      @donaldrush1364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BROTUNED TYSM

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your welcome!

  • @russellkerfoot5423
    @russellkerfoot5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I CAN`T BELIEVE YOU DIDN`T TAKE THE PISTON OUT. POLISH IT AND PUT A NEW SEAL ON IT AND LUB IT UP FOR REASSEMBLE.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s easy enough to do just testing the main spring in this video. So the only variable was the spring

    • @crazycressy7986
      @crazycressy7986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And mill out slots in the piston to make it lew weight

    • @johnibbertson2960
      @johnibbertson2960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crazycressy7986 what is lew weight

  • @fl106c
    @fl106c ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what kind of fish do you have?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol 😂 no clue the kids picked them

  • @wazagarf8796
    @wazagarf8796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did you try drilling holes in your piston to get it lighter AND MORE FPS

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol 😂

  • @HusnainAliJohnMughal
    @HusnainAliJohnMughal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can we use .25 spring to .177 air gun to improve for power and fps

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have not tried it but I can’t see why it wouldn’t raise the fps of a .177

    • @HusnainAliJohnMughal
      @HusnainAliJohnMughal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      try it and tell

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will do

  • @sharpscornerx2
    @sharpscornerx2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess with crappy tools comes a crappy workbench. LOL

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You bet! Ha ha

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:01

  • @la2123
    @la2123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    500 fps limit? Sounds like everyone wouldn't be able to get anything more than a multi pump air pistol.

    • @alfredqiao7892
      @alfredqiao7892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Canadian gun law is a joke.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’ve got that right

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:09

  • @twitchclips3502
    @twitchclips3502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the gun a .22 or .177?

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a .177

  • @johnny2f55
    @johnny2f55 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:01

  • @user-mu1rw1qr2u
    @user-mu1rw1qr2u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Upgrading a spring or modifying one is illegal

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you don’t have a gun license it definitely is

  • @julianblacksmith8539
    @julianblacksmith8539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how much fps gain? justin trudue is a pain in the butt, so i was wonder how much my crossman 1377 can gain.

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 3 springs the factory is around 460 spring 2 is in the mid 600s and the 3 spring is around 900 but I honestly like the soft shooting factory spring

    • @julianblacksmith8539
      @julianblacksmith8539 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BROTUNEDIsn't changing the valve more important than the spring? Did u gain fps, by soley changing the springs, or did you change the valve, and barrel length too.

  • @FranciscoGarcia-zs2sk
    @FranciscoGarcia-zs2sk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Qué calibre es 4.5 Ho 5.5

  • @abruptlyblunt
    @abruptlyblunt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    air riffle classified as a firearm, that's ludicrous, they can't come close to the velocity of a projectile fired by ignited propellant, not to mention the dinky size and weight of a 177 or even a .22 pellet, they are no way near the mass of an actual bullet, you can do more damage with a sling shot.....

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh I agree 100% but that’s politicians for ya. We are doomed letting these people control us

    • @John-ob7dh
      @John-ob7dh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are still pretty dangerous in stnd form .My Gamo roadster 22 put a big hole in and out a heavy duty metal paint tin.Imagine hitting someone in the head with that.

    • @abruptlyblunt
      @abruptlyblunt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i never said they didn't present any danger but a .177/.22 won't do near the damage a real 22 will do when it starts tumbling in the wound or even the damage that can be caused by a crossbow or compound bow however, the 25 cal and up air guns that's another story, if anything is going to destroy the airgun hobby it's going to be the greedy manufacturers who keep making unnecessarily more and more powerful air guns and the dumber than stumps youtube content makers who can't stop posting video evidence for the government to use.......@@John-ob7dh

  • @paulfoster5432
    @paulfoster5432 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry, badly done,
    Grubbing around with the gun on a hard floor?
    Retuning the new spring with no Molyslip type air gun grease on the spring?
    Very bad practice,
    Sorry

    • @BROTUNED
      @BROTUNED  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ll keep that in mind next time I don’t play with these springers as much anymore but I definitely should they are very fun