40K Spring Points Update HOT TAKES ft. Bricky

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  • On this week’s (first) episode, Brad and Bricky get together to analyze one of the most updates that has ever updated to a game. No editor was harmed during the recording of this episode. I’m writing this at 6:00AM. Good night.
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    Horde Mode Discord: / discord
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:32 - NEWS: Horde Mode, Objective Markers and More
    04:44 - Dataslate where?
    06:34 - Brad is already Coping
    07:56 - Dataslate Readability
    09:31 - Adepta Sororitas
    11:19 - Adeptus Custodes
    14:05 - Comparing 9th and 10th Edition Codices
    15:43 - Adeptus Mechanicus
    17:44 - Aeldari
    19:43 - Agents of the Imperium
    21:15 - Astra Militarum
    24:59 - Black Templars
    25:44 - Blood Angels
    28:33 - Chaos Daemons
    30:20 - Chaos Knights
    31:11 - Chaos Space Marines
    39:03 - Dark Angels
    40:55 - Death Guard
    41:12 - Deathwatch
    42:16 - Drukhari
    42:45 - Genestealer Cults
    44:32 - Grey Knights
    45:55 - Imperial Knights
    46:25 - Leagues of Votann
    46:57 - Necrons
    54:34 - Orks
    01:01:34 - Space Marines
    01:04:16 - Space Wolves
    01:04:48 - T'au Empire
    01:06:02 - Thousand Sons
    01:12:42 - Tyranids
    01:02:24 - World Eaters
    01:22:06 - Final Thoughts
    Licensed Music Used By This Program:
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  • @thepoorhammerpodcast
    @thepoorhammerpodcast  หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    100k Sub Special Question Thread: th-cam.com/users/postUgkx_S_nhAfOLqD0elh03H48IFfLfwr6jO4c
    Also, if you're reading this, thank Berilio. He is basically on day 5 of his work week and is just now starting the video for Book Club. He will be taking a hard earned nap as soon as it's finished. This is why we don't do multiple episodes a week.

    • @Dave-1776
      @Dave-1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👁👃👁

    • @SingAboutSwayze
      @SingAboutSwayze หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@renebaan7430 Not as ashamed as your parents are of you.

    • @Sercotani
      @Sercotani หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@renebaan7430 yeah? did you miss the Poorhammer folks also saying how much of a non-controversy the whole femstodes dilemma was last episode?
      If you were hurt by Bricky's words, then you were the target repicient of those words. The 40k fanbase is wide and varied, stop trying to pretend there's a supermajority that all collectively hate the recent change.

    • @deltaparadox6118
      @deltaparadox6118 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How would you fix admech? What should Admechs gameplay identity even be?

    • @johnadam4117
      @johnadam4117 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@Sercotani I hate the current rules... they fucked them up bad. What happend to them feeling like they are all characters...

  • @gstellar96
    @gstellar96 หลายเดือนก่อน +801

    Next I would like to see Eric and Dk host an episode of adeptus ridiculous as they try to lie to the other to convince them they know the lore

    • @morgansheepman2403
      @morgansheepman2403 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

      And we get a third episode where Shy and Berrillio debate whether it is better to be loved or feared.

    • @onyxowlgaming
      @onyxowlgaming หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      And Shy only communicates in text and memes so it's just Berrillio giggling to himself the entire episode

    • @Speeds_Gaming_Corner
      @Speeds_Gaming_Corner หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      ​@onyxowlgaming Berilio: please send help. They've had me in the basement for months. I haven't eaten or slept in weeks.
      Shy: DancingGecko.mp4

    • @DINOROAR2912
      @DINOROAR2912 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      God, I would pay hypothetical money for this hypothetical scenario

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Unfortunately, April 1st was just a few weeks ago. Remind them next February.

  • @manwiththem9
    @manwiththem9 หลายเดือนก่อน +732

    Eric had to return to his home planet. They needed him.

    • @RvBnerd618
      @RvBnerd618 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      And hopefully didn't die during his journey.

    • @Adunapheth
      @Adunapheth หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      He's searching for his missing hammers

    • @zakmendoza8817
      @zakmendoza8817 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Everytime Eric’s not on the podcast, all the other characters should be asking “where’s Eric?”

    • @HappyDuude
      @HappyDuude หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bring back Poochie!

    • @garethlamb6923
      @garethlamb6923 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Titan needs him; he’s the only one who remembers where the hammers are.

  • @isaacoddo5704
    @isaacoddo5704 หลายเดือนก่อน +678

    Thank you Burellio for sacrificing your soul to the Emperor this week

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Same. Thank you, Burellio.

  • @cactus_judy3929
    @cactus_judy3929 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    To back eric a bit: I really enjoy how eric engages with the hobby, and with brad. Its okay to be a more """casual""" player, painter, and lore consumer. He is the everyman.

    • @jwebcoding7289
      @jwebcoding7289 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      We all love Eric, but we also love to poke fun at him.

    • @gregorycafiero9688
      @gregorycafiero9688 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nothing ruins your army like playing a game with it, so I respect the people who will never roll dice.

    • @Mabufu381
      @Mabufu381 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      eric is the simple lovable golden retriever of the podcast to Brads incredibly cynical and monotone evil genius cat vibes, they make a great dynamic

    • @cactus_judy3929
      @cactus_judy3929 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Mabufu381 Dog and Cat! So true!!

  • @pdthepowerdragon5412
    @pdthepowerdragon5412 หลายเดือนก่อน +359

    Just wait for the full index reveal Admech
    Just wait for the first dataslate Admech
    Just wait for your codex Admech
    Just ignore your 3 months of unplayability post codex Admech
    Just wait for the next dataslate Admech!
    Ok we didn’t do rules changes this time but next time we totally will!
    At this point trying to convince fellow Admech players this isn’t a lost cause is pointless.

    • @sonarchy5158
      @sonarchy5158 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Praise the Copemessiah

    • @return4887
      @return4887 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      you're forgetting like everything that was 3 months after the 9th codex too

    • @gregsmw
      @gregsmw หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      iv been trying to tell people to boycot admech for a while now
      but addicts are addicts

    • @AsuraBoss
      @AsuraBoss หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@return4887It’s been multiple years since the brief time that AdMech was busted, too, though. Like, one of AdRic’s first episodes was AdMech and that was when AdMech were really good.

    • @Dinawartotem
      @Dinawartotem หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We're not unplayable. Just expensive.

  • @BoneTrait
    @BoneTrait หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    The fucking thumbnail is incredible.

    • @alohamadde1737
      @alohamadde1737 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's not a thumbnail. That is art and belongs in a museum!

  • @cirno9349
    @cirno9349 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Burellio pulled me out of a burning car after a 15 car pile up because I complemented his editing skills online

  • @jimsutter2748
    @jimsutter2748 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    The Custodes Contemptor dreadnought was designed by Dr. Robotnik.

    • @mastertreescout
      @mastertreescout หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Is that a good thing or bad thing?

    • @jimsutter2748
      @jimsutter2748 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@mastertreescoutit is a hilarious thing.

    • @TheUndeadslayer221
      @TheUndeadslayer221 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimsutter2748 Now it just needs to say "Pingas"

  • @AdMechTechSupport
    @AdMechTechSupport หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    I might still be at work, but Poorhammer is worth being here ASAP.

    • @Shabowdiadlo
      @Shabowdiadlo หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      BASED and I agree, Def not watching it at work rn

    • @thepoorhammerpodcast
      @thepoorhammerpodcast  หลายเดือนก่อน +133

      Please don't get fired. Get a raise and pay us on patreon instead. This benefits me more.

    • @AdMechTechSupport
      @AdMechTechSupport หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@thepoorhammerpodcast worry not, it was closing hour. I enjoy listening to you guys while finishing my last tasks for the day.

    • @Shabowdiadlo
      @Shabowdiadlo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thepoorhammerpodcast I'm in closing hours now and Idm, it's entertaining to talk about 40k and hearing it

  • @Gworkag
    @Gworkag หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    113 releasing before 112 ? ORIKAAAAAAAAAAN WHAT DID YOU DO AGAIN ?

  • @Silink12
    @Silink12 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The AoS point changes always say how much the units points changed.

  • @Freezezonian
    @Freezezonian หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    dumb thought for a meme joke objective marker. Have one of them be a big beefy looking vault door with a name plate on it saying Grey Knight Hammer Vault and under that have a note or something saying that the door is not functional.

  • @northradio4377
    @northradio4377 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Thanks Burellio, your the best editor I've seen on youtube.
    It would have been great if you made them a pot and kettle.

  • @neostrider2003
    @neostrider2003 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    As the Aeldari representative, we wish you peace with regards to your previous interactions with our people. Our methods may seem strange. If we didn't regularly generate hate then GW would forget us forever. Then the game would finally devolve into empire vs chaos.

    • @Sercotani
      @Sercotani หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      finally huh... that sounds so unimaginably boring. Xenos have received lots of love, GW would never forget us!
      Necrons and Orks had their turn. It's time for Eldar to get theirs.

    • @memphispiper2823
      @memphispiper2823 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sercotaninot enough love
      The one who thirsts is always famished.
      Aeldari are the hidden heroes. They were made by gods at the pinnacle of this war.
      Boring? No. But you definitely are just another puppet of the warp just like your “weekend at Bernie’s” emperor.
      Better to be a xeno than a superstitious Terran that continues to be the easiest target for warp corruption.

    • @sameerdodger
      @sameerdodger หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah I love being the hated faction, but I just want some new models. I've been using literal painted toy spiders as warp spiders for too long now.

    • @JacoDeltaco
      @JacoDeltaco หลายเดือนก่อน

      it already is dont lie to yourself

    • @neostrider2003
      @neostrider2003 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @JacoDeltaco I think 6th or 7th edition ally chart was alarmingly close to allowing it to be empire vs chaos. Eldar lore changes everytime a new writer gets its hands on in because they have no endgame for them to be working towards. Until then we're testing ground for new mechanics players will either hate to have or hate to play against and then become normal in the next edition.

  • @tylerchadwell1267
    @tylerchadwell1267 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    For anyone wondering, the custodes changes (compared to the January dataslate) are as follows:
    Trajann went down 10, to 150
    Aleya went down 5, to 75
    Valerian went down 5, to 110
    the Blade Champion went down 10, to 110
    the venerable contemptor dreadnought went down 15, to 170
    And yes, the dread can still get back up after dying the first time.

    • @TOOTHBRUSHDUCK
      @TOOTHBRUSHDUCK หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I thought I was remembering right on it showing everything green but most of them didn't change from the last points, just from the codex no-one trusted the points of. But they've also taken a bunch of nerfs.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK Yeah they're showing from the Codex to the new dataslate, Orks also had this where a lot of stuff didn't go down in points compared to the previous dataslate but the Codex had pre-January points costs in it (Kans costing 290 for 6 instead of 250 for example).

  • @kyubimage9526
    @kyubimage9526 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Tyranid Monsters continue to drop because gw forgot to give the faction any ability to damage tanks or survive anything stronger than a plasma gun.

    • @iharpo9292
      @iharpo9292 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Invasion fleet feels like it shouldve been our army rule tbh. Shadow in the warp is at best, a detachment rule. If it was a singular detachment you could have enhancements and strats purely focused on BS

    • @kyubimage9526
      @kyubimage9526 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@iharpo9292 I mean the only reason shadow in the warp is so terrible is because they got rid of the psychic phase. Really makes no sense GW would make so many new brain bugs in an edition with no casting.

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Seriously tho. The best AT we've got is Old One Eye and his 2 best friends, and they only have a pretty decent chance at killing a Leman Russ (most of that damage comes from old one eye himself).

    • @corrackisdead
      @corrackisdead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tylerchadwell1267I mean Tyrannofex has a 2 shot ws 2 Strength 18 Ap-4 2d6 gun

    • @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069
      @spideysquestionablyusedcha5069 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@corrackisdead yeah, which is terrible lmao.

  • @cbilici
    @cbilici หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    As an Eldar player I want the Poorhammer crew to know they're loved ❤.

  • @vojtadrasner2440
    @vojtadrasner2440 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    If I remember right, at start of 10th, they said that dataslate will be every half year, while point balance will be every quarter year. (opposite to what has been at end of 9th)
    And then there always seemed to be a problem that needed to be solved with dataslate, so they used them every time.

  • @OmegaLittleBob
    @OmegaLittleBob หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    10th has been weird, but being a little simpler from the outset did make it easier for me to convince my friends to actually get into the game with me for the first time.

    • @autumnlotus6250
      @autumnlotus6250 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly that's why me and my group Aren't playing 10e. It's far to simple for army rules, but a lot of micro management BS for game rules

  • @caboose759
    @caboose759 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I remember the good ol days of like 4 months ago.
    Jam a bunch of Noise Marines into Nurgle Rhinos, have a Helbrute nearby to get them cutting on 5's, and destroy the world with Rock and Roll.
    Smelly, Disgusting Rock and Roll.

    • @ravenRedwake
      @ravenRedwake หลายเดือนก่อน

      And rape, don’t forget the rape.

  • @amycox7508
    @amycox7508 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Holy shit the burn to Eric is amazing 😂

  • @filsyah1
    @filsyah1 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thanks for calling out the Reductus Saboteur's absurd kit, Bricky. I never get tired of my opponents' growing disbelief as I list her abilities. It used to be even cheaper earlier in the edition.

  • @Kalemvir1
    @Kalemvir1 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you Burellio for all the sacrifices Brad forces you to make, as token of my appreciation, i'll give you a trick, whenever you want to make Brad feel bad, remind him of what happened to Prospero

  • @MrPooleish
    @MrPooleish หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Burellio is my Patron Saint, and it's his choice what of. I'll be burning Nurgle candles until a suitable alternative is provided.

    • @isaiahsmith6016
      @isaiahsmith6016 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      If it's Nurgle candles, I'm not sure you'll live that long, brother.

    • @antoninjanku3358
      @antoninjanku3358 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this a reminder that dried poop burns?

  • @logandaley1544
    @logandaley1544 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you Berelio for all your editing hard work.

    • @sgtkumpel
      @sgtkumpel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for actually getting his name right.
      I've been scrolling through the comments and I think I've seen more "Burellio" than anything. But hey, at least he's recognised for his hard work and probably shortening his life every so often 😅

  • @b1on1k638
    @b1on1k638 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Bricky was definitely thinking of Helltaker when Brad messed up Azrael’s name

    • @wombataldebaran9686
      @wombataldebaran9686 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i thought of Warhammer Fantasy, where Azazel is a daemon prince (?) of Slaanesh

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'll be real with you "buffing" units by making them cheaper just nerfs your bank account.

  • @Fusei536
    @Fusei536 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks Berilio, and remember to blink twice at us if you need help

  • @darthvaderbutwayshittier7054
    @darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Out of three games I play (Conquest, Warhammer, Dystopian Wars) Warhammer is the only one to not have fully digital rules.

    • @anima_et_animus1832
      @anima_et_animus1832 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would really prefer if they still had the option for physical rules. I dislike looking at PDFs or apps on my phone for rules, I wish they'd release the digital ones, do balance updates based on play, then release all the codices at once.

  • @troutwarrior6735
    @troutwarrior6735 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The hydra is amazing, my pair of hydras killed belakor is one round of shooting.
    The deamon player was significantly less amused than I

  • @Fell-Handed_Bjorn
    @Fell-Handed_Bjorn หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    My points did not change I am happy

  • @scolack123
    @scolack123 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    1:19:30
    The invasion fleet strat for 5+ crits is MELEE ONLY
    Remember that people
    So many people try to use it for ranged

  • @un0riginal539
    @un0riginal539 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In World Eaters, the fun units went down, the good units stayed normal.

  • @greyboi9550
    @greyboi9550 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Let us all take moment of silence for Burelio may he some day be freed from Brad's editing chamber

  • @gore6065
    @gore6065 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i threw 2 keeper of secrets against a 6 man squad of meganobz and only killed 2 of them.
    idk what happened man. they managed to kill one with the slap back too.

    • @DiakosDelvin
      @DiakosDelvin หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well you made the mistake of rolling up on da 'ardest orks with snakey, wiggly skinny gitz.
      No self-respecting Orks is gonna die to something like that.
      It needs to be 'uge and strong or have loads of dakka to convince orks to die.

  • @johnny_on_the_spot_02
    @johnny_on_the_spot_02 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I was high on that copium that AdMech was gonna go down on points this dataslate. I was on a trip with the boys when through a mostly soundproof room they heard my scream of hatred.

    • @Torguemada
      @Torguemada หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Admech dont need to go down to 2 dollars per point of army you get, they need a complete rules redo.

  • @Rook986
    @Rook986 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Warmachine went to free digital rules years ago. Just pick the datacards you want and download the pdf

  • @Sparkyinbozo-xe9fn
    @Sparkyinbozo-xe9fn หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    GW has lost all good faith it had with the AdMech community. They said they'd be working on our datasheets for this update. They didn't. Then they mock us by saying, "lul you're not a horde" while designing us as the THE Imperium horde army now. And that's not even to talk about the money costs, unfun army rules, etc.
    It's completely unacceptable.

    • @silenc3068
      @silenc3068 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      If you bought every Ad Mech discount and gift from the past 2 editions, you only barely have 2000 points, and that’s after some points bumps

    • @beauaadams153
      @beauaadams153 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      GW has been dropping the ball for certain armies lately in 40k while Orks got a stunning codex. Custodes got crap, like Necrons got a good codex while Ad-mech got crap. This worries me for AoS 4th edition....

    • @theendofmyropemydude
      @theendofmyropemydude หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Since the creation of the first of the ten thousand, admech have always been a horde army.

    • @memphispiper2823
      @memphispiper2823 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beauaadams153Orks have a really great player/community that are way more positive than what the Imps of Man bring. Like the Terran faction brings in the most bitter vets I’ve ever seen in a game.

    • @mouthwide0pen
      @mouthwide0pen หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@beauaadams153Crons codex isnt even stellar, theres a lot of poor design in it, it's just *strong*.

  • @Willsr14
    @Willsr14 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The issue with Guard is twofold. We have a detachment ability not worth the paper it's written on, and we have maybe a dozen incredible players skewing our statistics, despite the majority of IG players having a 46% or less win rate at COMPETITIVE tables. Forget that IG have a huge casual fanbase who's games are not and never will be reflective of what's competitive.
    Now GW added a third problem. The points increases were made because of the previously mentioned dozen players. The tens of thousands of guard players struggling at casual tables - because the core, thematic units of the IG are bad - now have to suffer even more because of a change caused by less people than I have fingers and toes. This should NOT be how 'balancing' is done with the IG.
    TL;DR - The IG nerf was made to stop an extremely small number of IG pros competing at top tables, and GW made the tens of thousands of other IG players pay for it, despite them struggling.

  • @jafsrob
    @jafsrob หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    THANK YOU EDITOR!

  • @GarrettDemersM
    @GarrettDemersM หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    surprise poorhammer episode?!!?! and with bricky?!?! A most welcome release.

  • @timunderbakke8756
    @timunderbakke8756 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hot take (haven’t listened yet) - I’m in love with what they did to Thousand Sons. I feel like I can play something other than “Magnus plus Rubric and character spam” now.
    I just had an awesome game today using new points where I had a vortex beast, a lascannon/missile helbrute, and a daemon prince on foot. They formed a wrecking ball that went up the opposite side of the board as Magnus and seriously did as much work as he did. Maybe even more work.
    Used doombolt every turn from the Prince (who got to hit at 36 inches with the beast, and got a cabal point refund from the Helbrute), and then the Prince gave the beast and Helbrute -1 to hit while they shot anti-tank shots down range ripping apart the Sisters armor.

  • @facemite
    @facemite หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The green from Custodes is a trick they went down from the codex it didn't go down from the field Manuel. Only some hqs dropped in points none of the troops . Considering losing devwounds protection last time tanked the win rate, and we lost way more then that now the win rate is looking grim.

  • @edmundthespiffing2920
    @edmundthespiffing2920 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's good to see Burellio's work being paid in exposure

  • @maxwellware6855
    @maxwellware6855 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brad: And Eric said-
    Bricky: Nothing, you heretics! Eric’s dead; he’s locked in my basement!
    Brad: Haha!

  • @megladon5645
    @megladon5645 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Seeing battle reports about the custodes detachments almost wipe the opponent army but lose by 5 points tells me everything I need to know about what custodes players are used to.

  • @clanglois781
    @clanglois781 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you oh all mighty Burellio

  • @luketfer
    @luketfer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The big thing with the Dreadmob was that got hit without any points costing stuff. The Grot Tanks going to Legends did a number on Dreadmob because they were, by far, the best Rokkit Spam unit you could take with 9 Rokkit Launchas and D3 shots, strength 9, damage 3, -2 AP and a free 'scoot away if enemy is getting close' and then giving them all either Lethal Hits, Sustained hits or -2 AP on Crit wounds PLUS having blast meant they could absolutely chew through things, especially when combined with Bigger Shells for Bigger Gits strat, meaning they were wounding almost everything on 4s and +1 damage if you were willing to go hazardous.
    Switching to Killa Kans means you only get 6 Rokkit launchas and their new special ability is kind of ass (33% chance to just cause D6 wounds on the unit in exchange for +1 strength (not that useful apart from wounding toughness 5 or 2s instead of 3s but really not worth the risk) or +1 attacks (useful and makes them stronger than Grot tanks but, again, 33% chance to roll that option).
    Also the fact that Deff Dreads are still not able to squad up, meaning you can have, at most, 3 per list is a bit of meh thing (should have been 1-3 options, want mah 9 Deff Dreads). So yeah, overall before the Legends nerf Dread Mob was looking as both a good 'For Fun' detachment AND highly competitive, probably competing with Bully Boys as the top 'competitive pick' at the moment but after the legends nerf it slid down to just under Bully Boys but above Green Tide and Kult of Speed.
    Now this is all white room mathshammer stuff, how they work on the tabletop and especially piloted by people who are highly skilled, things may work out differently. Also I will point out that a good 90% of Grot tanks were not the Forgeworld models but Kitbashed from cheap toy tanks, almost NOBODY bought the Forgeworld models because they were £85 for 4, when you could get £10 for 4 using a specific toy tank box (if you've seen kitbashed grot tanks, you know the one).

  • @MGPW
    @MGPW หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Please keep in mind that Legends is legal in everything *except* official tournament stuff, and official tournament play is the vocal minority of players, with most games being friendly "Local" stuff, and with official tournament style play being the worst part of the game. The fun Ork stuff is still there (unlike Sister Celestians, which don't have a Legends profile, they were just deleted entirely but the box still says they can be made as Celestians and the new updated webstore still says they can be made as Celestians), you just can't take it 200 miles away to a place where everyone smells like sweat and gas station hotdogs.

  • @ethangruneisen6011
    @ethangruneisen6011 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks to Berellio, Brad, and Bricky putting in the time for this last minute episode. I wanna say as an admech player, I bought some blades of khorne models off a guy at my lgs. That's where I'm at with admech. I didn't just change armies, I changed games. I have more hope for AoS 4th than I do the future of 40k.

  • @theleopard8755
    @theleopard8755 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Top tier thumbnail!

  • @AAw3s0m3
    @AAw3s0m3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a 'Nids player, it's at best a gesture to recognise that we suck that they pushed most of the bottom up and at worst not really giving a shit about us, but to then nerf one of the four units that's carrying half our WR% (the other half is the Biomine strat alone) was basically kicking the beggar kid in the balls after handing him food, which he then drops 'cause he just got kicked in the balls.
    It would be funnier if we weren't one of the like bottom three factions.

    • @memphispiper2823
      @memphispiper2823 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Gotta keep nid kid hungry. It fits with the faction’s aesthetic.

  • @marcusrudd6675
    @marcusrudd6675 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Weshammer, poorhammer and lutein09 all releasing videos in a 6 hour window today makes me very happy

  • @manda60
    @manda60 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    "It feels like we've been in 10th for longer than a year" Is the understatement of the decade. Blergh.

  • @IOSARBX
    @IOSARBX หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Poorhammer, This is fantastic! I subscribed right away!

  • @DungeonMagister
    @DungeonMagister หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tried out Horde mode on a map that was a bit too small.
    Eldar, Space Marines, and Necrons against Tyranids.
    We won, and it was challenging, but not too challenging. Nobody took an L, but all of my buddy's Terminators died, Reanimation protocols came in clutch several times, and Maugan Ra and his Dark Reapers absolutely swept Gene Stealers, Leapers, and countless other bugs off the board.
    Reinforcement rolls landed us some pretty big gains. Nobody rolled less than a 7 for reinforcements, and the Space marines rolled a 12, and didn't have anything to reinforce with, so we let him bring in his knight. It was SO cool.

  • @135forte
    @135forte หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's worth noting that those win rates include 'kitchen table' games and the head of the balance team was running Necrons at tournaments.

  • @justaguywithhair2622
    @justaguywithhair2622 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Burellio, your time and effort are valued hope you appear on the podcast more regularly

  • @gamermilk6399
    @gamermilk6399 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks, Burellio
    F

  • @michaelstevens5712
    @michaelstevens5712 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Admech hopium: They've realized we just aren't buying or playing and are going to give us emergency Myrmidons when the plastic Heresy range launches. I don't think they'd go further than that as a patch, but I think if there was a Knight detachment we'd all just be happily painting Canis Rex right now.

  • @Andre3k
    @Andre3k หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Obrigado Berílio, agora volta para a Masmorra. ❤

  • @eriadorranger2196
    @eriadorranger2196 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Brazil Man for your hard work

  • @TheDiddler267
    @TheDiddler267 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I havent had a day off in a week. Poorhammer dropping in the middle of the night on a weekend had me questioning time itself.

  • @tenspider410
    @tenspider410 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO POORHAMMER, being a poor college kid who’s wants to get into Admech is truly the worst fate

  • @kaci8822
    @kaci8822 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    #TeamBROrelio

  • @jozefkeresturi2139
    @jozefkeresturi2139 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't expect a random poorhammer episode on Sunday at 3 am

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So, with Bricky in the thumbnail... 90 minutes of merch advert I assume?

  • @benmccoy1766
    @benmccoy1766 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A late night Poorhammer episode drop? It’s a little late to start painting but I guess I’ll make an exception!

  • @amycox7508
    @amycox7508 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m so happy that brickey has Votann, it’s nice to get a little representation!

  • @smilyzee7503
    @smilyzee7503 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As an Eldar player I would like to apologize for our brethren who can't take a good ribbing every now and then, and that I would agree with the point on there needing a revamp on the Eldar lore, as there's a lot of potential that is underutilized in my opinion and right now it's pretty shit when your favorite faction is GW's go to punching bag for an obligatory power scaling tool or just making them look stupid with their decision making skills as SEERS OF FATE...it frustrates me to no end.

  • @Sneaker3719
    @Sneaker3719 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did not expect Brad and Bricky teaming up on Eric this episode. Pretty funny.

  • @zoeith6
    @zoeith6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good work Berelio, quick turn around from SS podcast!

  • @PromoCodeBalls
    @PromoCodeBalls หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Berilio

  • @dr.stronk9857
    @dr.stronk9857 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was hyped for this as soon as I saw bricks video

  • @DegorothAmon
    @DegorothAmon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I primarily run CSm, ever since i got the Ravaged Star army kickstarter pledge, it's all I've played and I've consistently run a helbrute, a vindicator and some havocs. I do not like the idea of three vindicators hahaha, that type of spam makes me sick to my stomach.
    The helbrute aura wouldn't give you both stages of 5's to hit granting both, it depends on what mark the unit has of which is in the aura's effect, for instance, Helbrute with mark of tzeentch would get his 5's to lethal to shoot but 6's for sustained (as nurgle gives sustained on hit in shooting). (Abaddon is the exception as is considered as having all marks and undivided.)
    I've pulled the helbrute next to a single vindicator with a mark of nurgle so it's demolisher cannon ends up churning out a boatload of sustained hits on 5's and some lethals on 6's, it ends up being quite an efficient little bomb.
    Ive typically run 2 squads of cultists as 10 mans as mark of nurgle, for purely ranged really. The idea of a melee tarpit big blob with dark commune sounds real annoying to deal with. The character in legends being the 'rogue psyker' i played once before the 'dark obscuration' nerf was hysterical. One of the most unshakeable untouchable ranged units i've ever played with.
    I love me my havocs, Ive typically run them all with lascannons with either MoN or undivided to aid in their initial hitting, but am gonna give the MoT with autocannons havocs a spin, them posted on a building to get the benfits of plunging fire, makes these guys seem reaaaal juicy.
    Maulerfiend dropping heaps is real exciting, i've also almost always had a forgefiend in a list standing next to a helbrute so it absolutely goes wild when it shoots, but the maulerfiend mark of slaanesh paired with unnatural swiftness for this point cost makes this thing a real cool threat. You're right on the money when it comes to the flying daemon prince of khorne, it's about the only one that makes the most benefit using the talisman of burning blood. The Slaanesh one with the FnP enhancement is nice but the khorne one is the most killy. I think they definitely need another look over in terms of loadouts, they should get ridiculous weapon loadouts to make em truly versatile, here's hoping it comes true in the codex.

  • @theswarmsquad3606
    @theswarmsquad3606 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The tau also only have 4 detachments.

  • @arkslippyjunior7773
    @arkslippyjunior7773 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Havocs + helbrute was already really strong, as a man who owned 15 havocs I was a big fan but it kinda ends up being kinda dull just pointing and deleting stuff

  • @xemnufromthemagicplanet1678
    @xemnufromthemagicplanet1678 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huge props to the editor, ty for your sacrifice

  • @DrAculushka
    @DrAculushka หลายเดือนก่อน

    The main problem of BA index, that ba has decent rule, +2s and 1 A on charge. To run melee units that can benefit from this army rule you need either transport or jump packs. And when any good jump pack combo cost around 400 pst. You start thinking. What the f< ok I`musing transports, then you think when you use transport there is lesser amount of units that benefit from this army rule, In the end You just switch detachment which is can benefit all of the army.

  • @Sozank96
    @Sozank96 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My two army’s. Custodes and Deathwatch. Have over 3k in both. Kinda feeling burned this edition.

    • @rejectedopinions
      @rejectedopinions หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel your pain, nids deathwatch and firstborn marines are mine

  • @Shrrrg
    @Shrrrg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think no one is noticing sisters being one of the top armies is because no one plays them. We are very expensive, hard to paint and actually hard to play.

  • @tutrlespam
    @tutrlespam หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks burellio i hope they rewarded you with at least an hour of seeing the sunlight before putting you back in the basement

  • @derricksmith8354
    @derricksmith8354 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the ork lists are too much an issue, I wonder if they can do any emergency points adjustments when they do the Tau points in a few weeks? Thanks Bourellio!

  • @sHinobu2969
    @sHinobu2969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played at an event yesterday (Arc 40k) and my last opponent (great guy) was running an entirely grot tank list. His entire custom converted, beautifully painted army got legends'd

  • @ANDELE3025
    @ANDELE3025 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For swarmlord context even in army:
    Maleceptor is a similar profile for 170 with +1T +4W and a aura6 that weakens enemies for extra defense
    Swarmlord has slightly more attacks but without strike/sweep and has 2 other armies slightly altered enchants built in (+55 points total) and their own lynchpin (gives any nid snypase9, but as tyrants already are base synapse you can cut that by 5 for snyapse keyword itself and then to a third for how much of a improvement it is so extra +5).
    So if you could build-a-nid like in 3rd ed, a maleceptor as currently is or a emptied tyrant would still be a superior swarmlord for 10 points cheaper or the same respectively.
    THIS IS A CHARACTER THAT IN LORE CUT APART BANEBLADES TRYING TO KILL A BLUEBERRY YET LOSES TO TANKS IT COSTS MORE THAN (he loses to a regular walking tyrant if put in melee he costs 20 less than because that walk tyrant can at least has 5+++>4+++ bss).
    Just give gargamel the current nightbringer points and sheet with innate FNP replaced with "steals all other tyrant and epic hero models _insert keyword that sounds nid like and means something like "Biosemiotic"_ ability and any enhancement" if that unit was deployed first battle round and died while he is in reserved" and then tag each signature ability (leapers fear aura, one eyes regen, tyrants assault aura, id argue flyers wings but parox is ok too, synapse jellies from neuro and something for each norn) with that keyword and spead the vect and 1cp somehow across the tyrants. Oh and give the norns the tyrant keyword already, im tired of pretending they arent just objective sitter hive tyrants in a more expensive box.

  • @thedigitaldemon8010
    @thedigitaldemon8010 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on 100k. Enjoy your play button!

  • @quendi5557
    @quendi5557 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Berilio!

  • @makhina8839
    @makhina8839 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It truly is baffling how much they hate flyers, Deathwatch and Forgeworld

    • @SWProductions100
      @SWProductions100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      (Full speculation ahead)
      If Forgeworld is a separate team within GW - and they want to shutter that department - I can at least see the business explanation.

  • @danieledwards4821
    @danieledwards4821 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tyranid player here, I personally like to use synaptic nexus the most, it's my favorite because it improves on the shadow of the warp which is a part of the army I wish we better and the detachment somewhat helps with that

  • @Atomic-lq2fb
    @Atomic-lq2fb หลายเดือนก่อน

    "My special co-host... Bricky?" Bricky: "hi"

  • @luisvilla5228
    @luisvilla5228 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:27 don’t worry, the blank background really sells the joke here 😂. I can vividly see Berillio staring tiredly as Brad said that

  • @Bluejayount1
    @Bluejayount1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh
    This is gonna be good

  • @angrypicture6155
    @angrypicture6155 หลายเดือนก่อน

    45:55 got me.
    Also thanks for sacrificing yourself Berilio, it is greatly appreciated.

  • @sweetboygreeny3855
    @sweetboygreeny3855 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whereas I get that changing the rules are nice, you do not want to do that very often, because you had to look every time you play at new datasheets.
    I still love the idea of changing the rules every so often.

  • @shanewatson4228
    @shanewatson4228 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Bricky mentioned the Master of Executions during his legionaries spam idea. Legionaries already get rerolls to wound on objections, and the MoE provides full rerolls to hit if the target is below starting strength, which is extremely easy to accomplish.
    You can give a squad with 2 power fist profiles and 8 chainswords along with a MoE axe full rerolls to hit and wound for free for 240 points (260 if you add on a Talisman of Burning Blood for the MoE). That's less (or equal) to an unleaded squad of 10 chosen at 260. I think that's insane value

  • @BoneTrait
    @BoneTrait หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    15:37 IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOR WEEKS BABY LETS GOOOOOOO

  • @veren1838
    @veren1838 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Burellio Grandpa Nurgle would be proud.

  • @blam320
    @blam320 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like Chrono the Harlequin from over at "Live from the Black Library" was correct in his prediction that The Scouring would be the next big book series.

  • @shadeofnod
    @shadeofnod หลายเดือนก่อน

    The put the number on the line in the AoS Battlescroll when they update points. So they def know that the technology exists.