Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale 2 - Build the Roster
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- Our last Build the Roster on Marvel Vs Capcom was a huge success. So why not follow that up with a video on a game that most people forgot existed?
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0:00 - Intro - What is Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
7:30 - How Many Characters
10:30 - Returning Characters
25:41 - Honorable Mentions
36:18 - New Characters
1:14:15 - Rival Battles and Final Boss - เกม
"Please let that Avengers game be good!" That aged like milk.
Agreed
It wasn’t even the only shut down squenix did that month
Live service needs to die
Well, at least we still have he Spiderman games, and our best hope for the Wolverine game.
@@bosskaiju4834 your actually right
@@jmurray1110Or at the very least take a backseat to the gameplay.
“If Disney won’t let Sora be in Smash, Disney won’t let him be in the Smash knockoff”
…welp
I mean I still doubt that Sora will be in a PlayStation game since we'll, PlayStation all star did bad or at least the first game.
Little sis this poor fool know sora would be in smash
To be fair, it sounds like Sakurai had extreme difficulty getting Sora into Smash Bros. to begin with. Something tells me it wouldn't be any easier for whoever was in charge of PlayStation All-Stars 2.
Curb your enthusiasm, etc
Uhhhhh
Silent Hill would make a sick stage transition. Pick any other stage and have it become the Otherworld version.
I can agree amigo
Oh didn’t expect you here The4thSnake
@@onewingedakuma6835 Hi.
For some reason for me: Little Big Planet just bringing some joy in a world that has terror creepy folks and a GBA Japan only visual novel
@@Tanner31904 I have to say for injustice although I did think the graphics were amazing I thought the game was pretty dope one of the best fighting games made here in the United States I have to say the one complaint I do have is that at the end like I don’t know there are some weird like decision making clash when two characters would like clash and you had to let I didn’t quite understand what you had to do there in like white even happens like really does unavoidable clash that would happen it like usually towards the end of the match what the hell is that why why brew in the game with nonsense like that the game is like a perfect 10 out of 10 and then all of a sudden it becomes likely love like Jeopardy game of all of a sudden like guessing game is so stupid
This video takes aged so bad and so well at the same time that is astounding
Yup just like the Disney Spiderman take hahaha they have no control over spidey, they get it from sony
Yeah but even the jokes man. The jokes are so cringeworthy at times.
Cortex and Nefarious together would be freaking amazing in any circumstance.
That's a great idea to be honest. Throw in maybe Sephiroth and maybe Zeus as part of the scheamers and you get an interesting final battle.
Vergil would be dope with Sephiroth and I'd like to see Calypso from Twisted Metal and Baldur from GOW 4 also thrown in
OR Polygon Man can corrupt Knack and you him as a host. Kinda like Venom.
Me: “Hey, Dr. N!”
Both: “Yes?”
Ah, your profile pic shows that you are a man of culture as well
If I remember correctly, the devs of this game were gonna have good & evil Cole be the same character, with choices made during the match determining which route you went down. It was actually Sucker Punch who suggested making them separate characters.
I think the decision would've worked if we had a couple more clone like characters in the game. Evil cole being the only one makes him stick out like a sore thumb
Not one of Sucker Punch's better decisions, I must say...
Little did they know they made a lazy choice because it´s the same person with different personalty and two different specials
I think they were trying to give their Smash Bros. its own Mario and Luigi with the two Coles.
@@autobotstarscream765I mean personally if PSA2 existed and got DLC they should have Delsin instead of Evil Cole I mean yeah there is Kessler but that wouldn’t work despite being Cole from the future
Here's the problem with Kiryu: the director of that series, Toshihiro Nagoshi, said that he doesn't want Kiryu in Smash Bros. because Kiryu would never beat up a woman...kind of a problem if you had him in a roster with Heather Mason, Fat Princess, Aloy, etc. AND had his rival be Tifa. Instead, I say for Tifa's rival, you replace Kiryu with Goro Majima himself, or even get another kickass lady in there by putting in Nina Williams from Tekken
Have Lara Croft kick Tifa's punch
Or for a more bizarre choice, then why not go with Silver the Hedgehog for the love of Daisuke Ono and Bryce Papenbrook?
Just have Kiryu pull his punches when fighting a female character. He deals less damage. This is a party game, not a competitive game.
Yep. Meanwhile, I would simply trade Kazuma Kiryu for Silver the Hedgehog so that way, we can have Johnathan and Jotaro in PSABR2, at least with their Japanese (Daisuke Ono) and English (Johnny Yong Bosch) Voice Actors because of well, you know what I am saying, partners.
okay than Spyro, Crash bandicoot and many other charcters on the list wouldn't work because of ownership problems and the owner wanting this/that, that's why we got reboot dante in PSASBR
If classic Dante and Raiden were in the same game I would absolutely hope they’d have a rival battle, you could say that with all the weird world mixing Dante assumes Raiden is some alternate version of Vergil and Raiden assumes Dante is somehow part of desperado, it really feels like a perfect matchup imo
Raiden: Are you some kind of cyborg?!
Dante: Are you some kind of demon?!
"Goro Majima, pouncing out at you, wearing a big foam Crash Bandicoot costume." That made me laugh.
“Hey plumber boy, mustache man, your worst nightmare has arrived!”
I just imagine Kiryu giving dorky dad advice to every character including Kratos and Nathan Drake with people like Sweet tooth of course being the exception
How about he kinda becomes father figure to Sweet tooth
@@shadowclaw7210 the last time,his father killed him while searching for him because, Charlie Kane didn't know that needles Kane(Marcus Kane) aka sweet tooth was his son.
Knack as Waluigi is genuinely brilliant and my respect for your marketing acumen has gone way up
I would have included Astrobot! Rescue Mission was a cool game and he definitely is full of personality. I could see the watcher robot assisting from offscreen in his moveset.
Yeah definitely given it’s been the tech demo mascot
Plus you could have a stage based on the current hardware being okayed on like in the playroom
I’ve never played Yakuza, so why did I get so happy when I saw Kiryu in this hypothetical roster?
Go play Yakuza. I'm pretty sure you can get 0 pretty cheap on Steam.
Maybe cuz Bakamitai.
Maybe because he puts so much thought and effort into these roster videos that it gets you hyped. Speaking for myself, I fucking loved his take on Marvel4 and I am here for the mere curiosity to see what the roster for this game would be like even though I never had the intention to play PlayStation's smash Bros here, lol
Goro should've been in the list
Because he's one of the best main characters in video game history, and someone like him is just BEGGING to get in a fighting game. ANY fighting game. Been wanting him in Tekken for ages.
I was with you until you said Toro shouldn't be in the roster. The literal mascot of Japanese PlayStation, should 100% still be in this game as a fighter.
Just like smash Bros makes picks for both it's western and Japanese audience ( Hero from Dragon Quest, to Banjo.)
You need those characters for both sides.
And he even complained that the first game didn't really apeal to eastern players, but then he cuts Toro
Fun Fact: among the 80+ characters that make up the roster of Smash Ultimate, about 90% of them were characters made in Japan. Only 4 characters were created in other countries; Diddy Kong, King K. Rool, and Banjo and Kazooie were made by Rare in Britain, and Steve by Morag in Sweden. Which means... not a single character, not ONE, in the entire roster of over 80 all star video game characters in history, was made in America.
@@roger_towny_jr If I remember right, Dark Samus was made by Retro Studios from America. I know it's only one character out of 80+, but still, we got one in.
@@roger_towny_jr Though on another note, someone should make a big crossover game that's basically Super Smash Bros., but for western characters.
@@TheDanielCityHeroes I hardly count Dark Samus as an actual "character."
You know what would be cooler than Cortex and Nefarious teaming up with a Colossus?
Cortex and Nefarious teaming up with a Colossus infused with the Clockwerk parts.
You see, it works because they're both scientists
And then when you beat them, you unlock them as playable characters!
I’ll do you one better: Cortex and Nefarious controlling a Colossus with Clockwerk parts but also infused with Dark Eco
A sequel to Playstation All-Stars should have some representation of Sony's more obscure franchises like Tomba, Wild Arms, Puppeteer, and The Legend of Dragoon.
Two of those WERE going to be represented; Tomba! and The Legend of Dragoon. As both Dart and Tomba would've been apart of the dlc Dart vs Abe and Tomba vs Ryu Hayabusa, but of course according to Sony's eyes the game didn't sell enough to make it happen.
Ok hear me out the final boss is...
Bill Gates.
And the true creator of this game is
The dog from SILENT HILL
No, literally.
Wearing Mario's clothes. You know, for that extra bit of meta humor towards the Console Wars.
Nah, it's Gaben
Not the guy who said that the PS2 is so powerful it could control missiles?
@@dragondelsur5156 lord gaben died for our sins
>"Toro would have been cooler if the roster hadn't been so small."
>Is going to almost double the roster size.
>Later in the video says a big problem with All-Stars was that it was very western-centric.
*>Cuts Toro Anyway.*
Yeah, this whole vid is almost null and void to me due to him cutting Toro (and also Radec).
Like... his picks are really... eh...
@QUAD_RETURNS whoa calm down there bud in my opinion that game was fucking great
@QUAD_RETURNS no offense
@QUAD_RETURNS I'm curious why do you think it's bad?
@QUAD_RETURNS also thank you for being civil instead of cussing me out for not agreeing with your opinion
i have an idea, what if? the Polygon Man has a backstory in-game where explains that after being rejected as the mascot for playstation he was going to be erased from existence, but manage to escape with that kind of energy we seen in the original all-stars battle royale, and with that kind of power with his anger and wishes for revenge he goes to the playstation multiverse to destroy the legacy of playstation with the idea that if he's not going to be the face of playstation, nobody can. and now with the fighters seeing their worlds being erased one by one they come on the journey where they have to find the way to stop whoever is behind all this and find the way to restore their universe in the way they were before.
For a character from a horror series, Leon Kennedy works very well as he's very action oriented and has been in lots of games.
Lots of good picks, I would add:
Raven (Gravity Rush)
Dr Nefarious (Ratchet and Clank)
Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Atoi (Tearaway)
Dart Feld (Legend of Dragoon)
Wander (Shadow of the Colossus)
Personally my two picks I think were missing were:
Demi-fiend (SMT 3: Nocturne): Exclusive to the ps2 along with many other megaten games and has already crossed over with dante before.
Monokuma (Danganronpa series): Like ace attorney for nintendo, the series has been on all playstation handhelds (yes all two of them) and has all of it's games also ported to ps4 including a psvr version of one of the first game's trials. Plus he would be hilarious in a fighting game.
@@heehomgee4671 Didn't Danganronpa start out on PSP and Vita?
@@liammcnicholas918 Yes, that is my point. What about it?
Resident Evil has Never ben a playstation franchise, same with Tomb Raider, but the latter has more focus on PlayStation then the former
if they choose someone from Resident Evil its gotta be either Nemesis or Whesker
I suppose i should let you in on some behind the scenes details about the roster to help you understand the reasons behind some of the roster choices
When asked about why Crash wasn't in the game the lead directer of the game said "It takes two to tango" implying that they tried to get him in but Activision either didn't want him in or just most likely wanted an unreasonable amount of money for his rights, same can might be said for Spyro
The reason why it's reboot Dante is because Capcom wanted it to promote the reboot and wouldn't let them use the classic design even for an alternate costume
There are two Coles in the game because Sucker Punch, the Infamous creators, wanted it, most likely because Cole has different powers depending on how good or evil he is, Evil Cole was originally supposed to be an alt
Big Daddy is in the game because the writer and director of BioShock, Ken Levine, went to the developers with the idea as soon as he heard about the game's development, he even wrote Big Daddy's story mode
The developers wanted Snake in the game but Kojima wanted Raiden in instead, for reasons unknown
They tried to get Lara Croft in the game but the Tomb Raider developers wanted their reboot version of Lara in their game before anything else
The developers considered a Katamari Damacy character to be playable but couldn't think of how that would work
Originally other option for the final boss was considered including Dr. Nefarious and the entire Helghan army
The developers decided to use Polygon Man as the final boss because they wanted the player to feel like they were fighting PlayStation itself so they used the brands former mascot
Six other playable characters were gonna be DLC but were cut after Sony stopped supporting the game, these characters are Dart from Legend of Dragoon, Abe from Oddworld, Ryu from Ninja Gaiden, Tomba from Tomba!, Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat and Chun-Li from Street Fighter, Dart and Abe were near completion, Ryu and Tomba were in development and Chun-Li and Sub-Zero had only made it as far as the concept stage
Also a stage based on Gravity Rush and Journey was gonna release alongside Dart and Abe
All that plus the game was supposed to be entirely different, it was supposed to be a capture the flag game with each character being a archetype, possibly kinda like Overwatch before Overwatch was a thing, it would have even had 35 characters, but Sony changed it to compete with Smash and after that they sort of gave up on the project setting it up for failure
Here's what the capture the flag version of the roster would have been i.redd.it/avzxr1v67mfz.png
Sony also originally wanted Naughty Dog or Santa Monica Studios to develop the game but they were busy with their own projects, The Last of Us and God of War: Ascension respectively, so they built SuperBot from the ground up with a focus on team-members with experience in fighting games
I wanted to comment something similar to this but you gave me info that I didn't know about thx!
But still....
@@misterdewott8766 Still what
@@numnuts241 I mean I understand all the behind the scenes issues regarding characters and legal issues and marketing. But that doesn't excuse a subpar final product. Like the saying goes "That's a reason for your actions. Not an excuse."
@@misterdewott8766 I never said that, like i said i just wanted to help people understand and know why
Also the roster isn't that bad, the majority of the characters are still good
I feel like Lara Croft would've been a better choice than Chloe, especially as a rival to Nathan Drake. And no Dart?
The fact Dart wasn't mentioned annoyed me especially since Dart was supposed to be a playable DLC character in Playstation All-Stars Battle Royal before getting replaced by Isaac Clarke from the Dead Space games complete with a stage that would be Dart's hometown fused with the Wipeout games basically the stage would be a standard stage for the first few minutes and then all of a sudden a racetrack complete with various Wipeout Racers racing on it shows up. Along with the fact Sony made and released the awesomeness that was Legend of Dragoon to compete with FF7, and guess what Legend of Dragoon managed to actually equal FF7 in sales and popularity hence the reason why it's consider one of the greatest JRPGS and a Playstation classic. Plus moveset wise Dart can a battle mage similar to Robin in Smash meaning Dart's standard moves and combos would be him using his sword, but his standard specials would be his wide array of fire spells, and for supers his Lv. 1 Super could be that one 4-hit sword skill that he gets during the first half of Legend of Dragoon, his Lv. 2 Super would be his Explosion spell only after the big firey blast you'd have the area where Dart cast Explosion remain on fire for a few minutes and any unlucky opponents in the area will take burn damage, and his LV. 3 Super yeah it's a no-brainer Dart's Lv. 3 Super is his Divine Fire Dragoon form. And for Dart's two rival battles in this hypothetical PSASBR sequel his standard rival battle that leads to a standard ending is also a no brainer it's going to be his long-time PS1 rival Cloud Strife and you can easily have it to where Dart and Cloud mistake each other for mercs hired by their respective enemy factions IE Cloud mistakes Dart for a merc hired by Shinra to take him, and the rest of Avalanche out, and Dart from his point of view thinks Cloud is a merc hired by the Empire to eliminate him and the rest of the Dragoon Gang, and for the hidden Rival Battle and that leads to the hidden ending we have one of five options we can do Spyro for Dragon vs. Dragoon,, Sir Daniel with Dart mistaking him for a undead monster raised from the grave by the Empire's Necromancers, and either Nathan Drake, Sly Cooper or Chloe Frazier with Dart mistaking one of the two Uncharted protagonists for being a cowardly thief who have resorted to becoming a tomb/grave robber stealing ancient artifacts and selling them to corrupt nobles for an easy buck with no respect for the history of those who have already passed on to the afterlife.
To be fair, hardly anyone seems to remember Legend of Dragoon. Which is a shame considering how good it was. It was like if Final Fantasy 7 played like Paper Mario.
@@popplio7891 Agreed. And in both Japan and the US Legend of Dragoon was successfully competing/equaling FF7 in terms of both popularity and sales.
@@popplio7891 Thing is a big part of these crossover games is having characters that are obscure it's how games like Mother and Fire Emblem became more popular
Okay, pretty late on this, but: Lara Croft makes slightly more sense than Chloe, but...Dart? Yeah, even if you want a rep from an OLD Sony First Party RPG? Someone from Wild Arms (5 main games, 3 spin-offs) or Arc the Lad (5 games) makes more sense than the main character of the one and done Legend of Dragoon. It'd be ALMOST as bad as including Serge from Chrono Cross.
Oh god, the damn avengers game dropped the ball, we're in trouble
I’m just imagining Sony watching this video going “write that down” 😂😂
I hope so.
I want it on PS5
PLEASE
Nah, they're busy remastering the Emoji Movie
Dante vs Etna is fun and all, but I think Dante vs Raiden would be an amazing rival battle simply because it'd be Dante fighting a serious white haired katana user.
If street fighter II taught us anything it’s that fighters don’t really get good until the sequel.
IKR? I'd argue that Smash didn't really get good until Melee and Mahvel didn't get good until MvC2.
*laughs in MK*
@@WaxingName Street Fighter didn't pick up heat until Street Fighter 2, so yes.
Soul Calibur 1 is the exception lol
Is it? What about soul edge?
Important to note reboot Dante and Evil Cole were insisted on by Capcom and Sucker Punch.
If a new game was made, since the reboot universe got canned and DMC 4 happened, I imagine classic Dante is assured. As for Cole, the fact a lot people hated him taking up two slots might convince Sucker Punch to keep it to one character.
And now we know that it wasn't Disney that was keeping Sora from Smash, but rather Nemora who was worried about how Smash would fit into Sora's story. XD
I'd keep Polygon Man (I like the idea of a villain with a motivation stemming from the real world) and have the Colossus be a "Giga-Bowser" type of character, where you'd fight it under unique conditions.
Same, he is a really unique boss for the game, and at the least I'd like to keep him around as a sort of Master Hand of the PSASBR games.
Imagine this: Polygon man recruits N. Cortex and Nefarious, giving them the colossus.
Ideas for future Build the Roster episodes:
1) Nintendo vs Disney: possibility realism aside, considering these two companies have some of the most iconic characters in their respective mediums, and since they're basically the equivalents of each other, I think a crossover game between the two could be cool to theorize. You could just make it a Disney game if you want too.
2) If the first Smash Bros came out today: pretending the previous Smash Bros never existed, what would the roster of a Smash Bros game be like if it first came out this year (or next).
3) An indie game crossover fighter.
Maybe, a 1v1 Marvel vs DC fighting game.
@@jdellabeat6245 why 1v1?
honestly i'd love a disney crossover fighter, be it just disney or Disney X Something
I want a Nickelodeon vs. CN fighter. I'll be so great.
OK Hear Me Out Nintendo Vs Dc
As much as I love FF7 and Tifa I think Vivi Ornitier would’ve been a better 2nd PlayStation Final Fantasy rep. Not only representing another popular game but being completely different than Cloud in visuals and moveset
He also said that Tidus from FFX shouldn't have been in the game. I think Yuna would be a better pick because she has a different fighting style than he does.
That and she has her own game
One of the most magical things Nintendo did with the Smash rosters was modernize potentially super obscure characters from their older games and japanese-only properties. Anybody else remember playing that Brave Fencer Musashi demo on a playstation demo disk waaaay back in the day? I think Musashi would be super sick in one of these games.
I... really feel like Delsin Rowe should've been in this roster somewhere.
If they wanted to represent both the good and evil power sets from the Infamous games, they could keep Good Cole and have Delsin represent the evil powers.
I think it's better just keeping Cole, him and his games were icons of the ps3 and his games had mostly positive reception. Second Son and Delsin were much more controversial, with overall mixed reception. Sure he would certainly get people hyped, but Cole already fits the bill of "dude with magic hands"
@@cryguy0000 But there seems to be a small tradition in the Smash games, where they add both the new and old characters of a franchise. Lucina and Marth, Pyra and Shulk, Incineroar and Mewtwo. I would love to see a trailer that shows Delsin facing off against Cole.
The lack of Astrobot has me concerned.
Me to its a good idea but he does not have the moveset to to get in
@@Yoody_senko Neither Toro and yet here we are. There's so much they can pull from The Playroom games and Rescue Mission to implement in a moveset.
New Characters
36:18 Spyro (Spyro)
37:25 Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
38:43 Coco Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
39:06 Chloe Frazer (Uncharted)
40:58 Captain Qwark (Ratchet & Clank)
43:04 Carmelita Fox (Sly Cooper)
44:40 Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy)
46:42 Tifa Lockheart (Final Fantasy)
49:33 Kiryu Kazuma (Yakuza)
51:53 Yu Narukami (Persona)
53:31 Elizabeth (Persona)
55:27 Aloy (Horizon: Zero Dawn)
56:35 Abe (OddWorld)
57:53 The Hunter (Bloodborne)
59:42 William (Nioh)
1:01:42 Jin Sakai (Ghost of Tsushima)
1:03:57 Heather Mason (Silent Hill)
1:08:26 Etna (Disgaea)
1:10:17 Ryu (Street Fighter)
1:12:00 Kratos & Atreus (God of War)
no Ty The Tasmanian Tiger? :(
No Rayman? Bruh...
Kratos new?
If there's a sequel we won't get Crash and Spiro
@@SpinoSam those games were awesome on the ps2!!!
It did hurt that Tomba didn't make the cut with your list. But I do have a couple personal choices that I feel would make good additions:
Dart - Legend of Dragoon (Since he and Abe were supposed to be DLC in the first game.)
Aya Brea - Parasite Eve
Kain or Raziel - Legacy of Kain
Serge or Lynx - Chrono Cross
Rivet - Ratchet & Clank
Klonoa - Klonoa
Ashlay Riot - Vagrant Story
Uriko - Bloody Roar
This was a nice roster, but here are some other characters I'd consider:
Wander (Shadow of the Colossus)
ICO
Dr. Nefarious
Cyber Errol
Old Snake
Jehuty (Zone of the Enders)
Ava (Kinetica)
Blasto
Dart (Legend of Dragoon)
Demi Fiend (SMT3)
Lazarevic
Jeanne (Jeanne D'Arc)
Taon (Dark Cloud)
Delsin Rowe (Infamous)
Joel & Ellie
Lara Croft
Yumi from Senran Kagura and KOS-MOS would be great also.
Alright I’m only half an hour in, but I want to clarify that the “rumor” of Disney shitting down Sora in Smash was WIDELY misreported. The actual quote from the “leaker” makes it very clear that they are just speculating wildly, and that it’s not an actual rumor
@Cauldron-Born Techinally, disney owns sora completely and wouldnt need tetsuya numora's permission to use him, they just do it to show respect to the creator
That's why he acknowledged it as a rumor, even sounding like he wasn't too sure of its validity.
fictionfan0 It’s not a rumor though. It was just speculation. Those are two different things
@@epm1012 At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all, a "rumor" is a story/anecdote that gets repeated to and through multiple people, often regardless of veracity or reliability of the source. Even if it started out as speculation, the fact people were willing to repeat it is what made it a rumor.
I know this has nothing to do with Sora in Smash or anything, but I find it funny how you misspelled shutting as shitting.
So i'm the only one that cares about Raven from Gravity Rush?
*P A I N*
Nah, me too dude.
Feed our hungry bird lady
Nope
I appreciate the effort and industry know-how that went into this video, but I've gotta STRONGLY disagree with your "I couldn't think of a moveset" argument against The Prince. Sakurai made a moveset for the dog that laughs at you if you miss in Duck Hunt. SOMEONE could make a clever moveset for The Prince.
Also, if Lucasfilm could have an entire pre-Rise of Skywalker event in Fortnite that tied into the actual film itself, I think Marvel would let Spidey be a DLC character in a family-friendly fighting game like this. Especially knowing that it was being worked on by the same company that published Spider-Man PS4. And if THAT went over well, I could imagine Disney Japan loosening their grip on Sora.
The rest of your video is some A++ stuff though. THIS is what PAS should've been at the very start.
you missed the part where he said that he believes anybody could work in a crossover fighter, the issue was he specifically coudlnt figure it out.
He did say Spiderman could work as a DLC
The only real issue I have with your list here is that you didn't include Delsin Rowe or Lara Croft.
To be fair, if you have Cole MacGrath, then Delsin isn’t COMPLETELY necessary.
@@nikhilbhavani981 bruh is psasbr 2 ever came out, my biggest fear is they will cut cole, even tho infamous 1 and 2 are my fav ps3 games
Cole and Delsin are WILDLY different with the only exception is that they're Conduits. His smoke powers are already perfect for the roster
1:19:47 To be fair, he did brought some DLC characters in this part of the video, including Lara Croft.
@@MusicianNrd I recognize that, but it feels wrong to me to not at least include Lara as a base character. She's second only to Kratos and maybe Crash Bandicoot as the face of Playstation, historically.
As for Delsin, I always liked him more than Cole.
Make a "Project X Zone: The Fighting Game" video
Imagine the insanity of it all. 4 Companies duking it out with The 4 OCs from Namco x Capcom and Project X Zone 1, for any potential Story to Focus on. Capcom, Namco, SEGA, and Nintendo (since they were in PXZ2 in a limited capacity). For Nintendo just assume after they got a taste test in 2, they'd allow for a full bore inclusion on this... Project.
That would be awesome! I really hope he does it one day!
One crossover I'd like to see happen that almost did happen is Pokémon X Fire Emblem. Yes we'd almost got a Turn-Based Strategy JRPG title that was a crossover between Pokémon and Fire Emblem. Basically after Nintendo, Game Freak, and The Pokémon Company learned that Pokémon Conquest did well as one of the DS's last titles, Nintendo was going to have Intelligent Studios partner up with Game Freak, and The Pokémon Company to make a Pokémon X Fire Emblem game, but Nintendo decided to scrap this concept for Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei which would later be released on the WII U, and later rereleased on the Switch as Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE.
@@Dairunt1 That would be cool. And it would give Nintendo a way to please all the Soul Calibur fans who wanted SC6 on the Switch.
Wait, PXZ isn't a fighting game?
@@heehomgee4671 Proyect X Zone is an RPG.
As a Colonel Radec main, he should definitely return.
He was an actually well crafted long range fighter.
He could even be a DLC alongside others like Toro.
The fact that you said FF12 is underrated made me subscribe immediately, that’s my favorite in the series lol
I love the fact that you specifically picture one character as a memetastic Waluigi non-pick.
Of course the internet will probably end up using Tomba for that instead. He's got something about him that just screams "I bet he's more powerful than Goku and Shaggy Rogers combined".
The meme would be called Tomba Time. Is it Tomba Time? I think it's Tomba Time.
Tomba would be the geno and knack would be the waluigi.
I'd love to see a roster like this for a Microsoft equivalent...
Characters owned by Microsoft like Master Chief, Fulgore, Steve from Minecraft, and then some neat guest characters too... could be fun!
I mean, Microsoft has a couple of picks, but they wouldn't have enough to warrant a crossover game like that unless the scale of it is ridiculously low. At best they have Master Chief & Arbiter from Halo (Can't forget Arbiter now. He's not as big as chief, but he IS recognized.), Marcus Fenix and perhaps someone else from Gears of War, The Hero and Jack of Blades from Fable, Jago & Fulgore from Killer Instinct, Banjo & Kazooie, Conker, Rash from Battletoads, Steve from Minecraft (That put a bad taste in my mouth saying that...), Ori, and possibly others i cant think of because Microsoft barely has any exclusive series to their name. Even then, a lot of people don't even know anything past Master Chief if we're being honest.
@@christopherwallace7903 But i did mention Rare characters...
Shogun Plasma Oops... my bad...
@@ShogunPlasma They really only have Halo & Minecraft in terns if popular franchises with characters that could work in a fighting game.
@@PeterGriffin11 Not really? They own Rare like what was said earlier. That gives them access to WAY more characters. Sure, I don't see Gears of War working unless you use say... General RAAM or Scourge, but that's about it. They also own Fable as well which could use characters like Jack of Blades and The Hero.
They can make it work, but it wouldn't be in the same league as a Sony or Nintendo crossover fighter. Which is exactly why Banjo and Steve were put into Smash Ultimate over Microsoft making their own fighter.
You removed my cat. You are my mortal enemy now.
Sakurai explained in one of his latest videos that in order for each character in Smash to look and feel like they belong in just about any environment, they had to blend in realistic details for some characters while simplifying the details for others to make the franchise not look like it’s cartoon vs. live-action
This was pretty good. If you're taking suggestions for future episodes, then one I'd like to suggest is a potential sequel to Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion. Basically another mediocre Smash clone that could've been so much more.
It's legitimately disappointing how bland that game became...
Don't. It's bound to be oversaturated with Teen Titans Go! and Thundercats Roar...
@@X2011racer You ARE aware that Teen Titans (no matter how popular) is not a Cartoon Network Original? Likewise with Thundercats? So don't get your panties in a bunch.
OMG YES! PLEASE DO THIS! NOW THAT NICK HAS A SMASH GAME THIS NEEDS A REVIVAL
Finn and Jake would be obvious picks
You know Thorgi, a while back Ed Boon of netherrealm studios said theyd had conversations about possibly using marvel characters in a future project... So maybe one of your future building the roster videos could be marvel vs dc made by netherrealm studios?
as long as they dont turn superman evil again and base the game off the "Dc Vs Marvel" storyline from the comics that lead into the amalgam universe, im alright with this
@@andrewclark3330 Imagine Darkseid obtaining the Infinity Gems, then immediately throwing them away because they're useless in Fourth World.
@@Silverwind87 THAT would be really cool
If Avengers flops then Disney'll pick up their toys again and nobody wants that"
Uhhhhhh
Though what would have been hilarious to have as a rivalry out of the honorable mentions would have been Knack and Katamari Prince. I feel like I can make The Prince's move set work honestly. The mechanics for his character would be as follows:
Square - Katamari
Square: Katamari Spin
Forward Square: Katamari Dash (tapping square repeatedly spins the Katamari faster and builds speed on the dash)
Down Square: Katamari Bounce (flattens opponent)
Up Square: Katamari Launch (Kicks the Katamari up at an angle - knocks opponent in the air)
Square (In air): Arial Katamari Spin
Forward Square (In air): Arial Katamari Dash
Down Square (In air): Arial Katamari Bounce (Spikes opponent to the ground)
Up Square (In air): Katamari Bash (kicks Katamari up at an angle - knocks opponent towards the wall)
Triangle - Item Spawner
Triangle: Small Objects (creates up to 5 small objects that can be rolled up to create a bigger Katamari, lose one item with each hit given/taken)
Hold Triangle: Oblong Object (a long object will spawn, can be picked up and will make the Katamari roll off-balance and creates a long hit box but also slows down on upwards motion of the Katamari - gets knocked off [de-spawns] after hitting/getting hit by opponent or wall)
Forward Triangle: Rat Trap (creates a rat trap that when touched, launches the Katamari forward quickly)
Down Triangle: Human Object (creates a human from the game that will be knocked out when hit, launches in direction of hit and becomes a projectile, can be hit by opponent to hit back at The Prince)
Up Triangle: Large Object (becomes a wall, cannot pick up, will roll the Katamari up and around the item to get around it while other characters must jump on or over the item)
Triangle aerials (Same as the ground moves, spawns items on the ground)
Circle - Launch Attacks (not sure how to name this one)
Circle: Reversal (The Prince jumps over the Katamari and does a quick dash back)
Forward Circle: Katamari Kick (sends the Katamari forward towards the wall, which then bounces off the wall back to The Prince)
Down Circle: Counter (Katamari grows briefly and bounces character's attacks back like when the Katamari is of equal size to an object in game)
Up Circle: Katamari Toss (throws the Katamari in an arc
Throws:
Left and Right Throw: Rollover (rolls over character and they get tossed off left or right)
Up Throw: Toss off (Character gets knocked off as The Prince runs into a quickly placed large object that fades after hit)
Down Throw: Katamari Crush (rolls character underneath and slams the Katamari down above the character stuck at the bottom
Finishers
Finisher 1: Rollup (Katamari grows in size, does a short dash and quickly rolls up anyone it hits)
Finisher 2: Katamari March (Small swarm of Prince characters march through with Katamaris)
Finisher 3: Kings Judgement (Characters appear rolled up on the Katamari in front of the king, Katamari then turns into a planet/constellations of the characters)
Been holding my breath waiting for Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn the entire video, now I have brain damage. Still worth it.
Also, not sure how much this would work as a "Rival Battle", but I'd love to see Aloy interacting with Atreus and have them both poke fun at Kratos for being grumpy and unfun. That's would be the best thing ever! X3
Also, as far as naming this game goes, why not just shorten it to Playstation Rumble or something?
Did you intentionally psyche us out with Tifa over Sephiroth? Because I am confused and slightly disappointed lmfao.
Tifa being in is weird
@@Iffyschatos He said he chose Tifa because the other Final Fantasy characters all used some type of sword, so I'm assuming the same applies for Sephiroth.
TheLavaSlug 546 well noctis would be good choice because he can use pretty much anything
@@Iffyschatos Fair enough lol. I suppose Tifa is just more iconic than Noctis as well, so that's another potential reason.
Either Sephiroth or Zack, Tifa is a nice pick too though
So about that avengers game...
yeah.....
56:41 - 57:53
I've actually been conceptualizing how Abe could work in a PASBR 2 before you posted this video, and an idea I've had for him is that he could be an indirect fighter not unlike Phoenix Wright of MvC3 Ultimate. Like, Abe would still attack with his slap and tossing grenades, but most of his other attacks would be manifesting hazards and enemies from Oddworld to harm the other fighters for him; pulling switches (that suddenly pop in front of him) to cause saw blades to slice ahead, arcs of electricity to appear on his left and right, or as showcased in the video drop a boulder from above. Another attack could probably have Abe "accidentally" alert a Slog (Oddworld's version of guard dogs), which would then leap at and attack whoever is in back of Abe. Things like that.
Although looking into Munch's Odyssey, the Captain Olimar approach is actually quite feasible as that game had Abe commanding troops of Mudoken to fight his enemies. The problem with this, though, is that not only was Munch not as famous (nor good) as the first two Abe games but was Xbox exclusive, so not sure it would be the best source to utilize for Abe in a Playstation fighting game. But I suppose it's worth it for any kind of moveset.
For Abe's Supers, though, they definitely have to be...
*Level 1*- Abe summons a Popper Slig or a Scrab (random chance of either), who he promptly mind controls, and opens fire/charges at anyone directly ahead of him. Fun idea I have with this Super is that Abe and his summon would respond differently depending on the outcome: if the Super was successful in hitting/killing anyone, Abe and the Slig laugh at their foe's expense. Or if the Scrab is summoned, it does its victory dance. But if the Super fails to hit/kill anyone, Abe growls in anger while the Slig does the "BS" sound, and the Scrab roars to the sky (which they do if failing to kill Abe IIRC).
*Level 2*- My initial idea for this is that Abe drinks a can of SoulStorm brew, farts, possesses his fart cloud, and has it float around the battlefield. After a set amount of time passes, or the player presses a designated button, the fart cloud explodes in a massive radius. Although, I had actually come up with an alternative (likely preferable) idea of Abe instead summoning and possessing a Flying Slig, which he would then have fly across the stage and bombard the other fighters with grenades. In either case, Abe possesses something that flies and explodes lol.
*Level 3*- The battlefield suddenly becomes that of Monsaic Temple with Abe in the center surrounded by a crowd of Mudoken, all of whom doing spiritual chanting. Abe looks around unsure before chanting alongside his fellow Mudoken, upon which their spiritual energies are channeled into Abe and the blue Mudoken transforms into the demigod Shrykull, frying every single combatant with divine lightning.
You literally removed the Japanese mascot of PlayStation yet complain about how PSASBR had to few characters that would appeal to the Eastern audiance of PlayStation
Great video though
Well, Playstation Studios is now stationed in America as its main HQ, so it makes sense.
No he didn't. he just decided that toro would be better off as the character to introduce you to the game, teach the tutorial, and basically anything else that wouldn't involve fighting. and honestly i think that's the best use for toro.
@@tylerfurr1685 well smash has Mr. G&W, R.O.B, Steve & Alex, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, Ice Climbers, Piranha Plant, Dr. Mario, Toon Link, Jigglypuff and Palutena all playable.
@@tylerfurr1685 i'm waiting on your reply.
@@NicolasAndrade-zn1wo Sorry was busy. As for the point you made, i just don't think toro would fit as a fighter and that he'd be better off as the character that guides you through the game. i just can't really imagine what he could do as a fighter without just straight up copying the same moveset from the first one, though i'd be willing to hear any ideas as to how toro's could be edited/fixed.
i'd love for Jin Sakai to be added. a true ninja in just about every sense of the word and as real as you can get.
This video aged terribly considering Sora
And that Kiryu can't be in a fighting game since his creator said he can't be in one since it would be very out of character for him too attack one at all
Just found this channel and I think I’ll be binging the “build the roster” series, definitely my kind of videos!
Honestly,imagining all the rival interactions these characters could have is so hype
1:14:58 I disagree. I think I’d be fun for Elizabeth and Yu to interact with people outside there series. Elizabeth has already fought Yu on four different occasions in persona 4 arena, blazblue cross tag battle, persona q, and q2. I would like the see Elizabeth have fight with someone else.
Edit: I’d be nice to see Yu go up against Dante. Wouldn’t be the first time a mega ten character and Dante square up.
Smt 3 nocturne was exclusive to the ps2 alongside many other megaten games, why isn't demi-fiend in this hypothetical as well?
Should’ve been Dante and Yu because of the smt game with Dante in it or something
If that’s the case then I could possibly see a fun rivalry between Elizabeth and Etha since she would no long fighting Dante
I don’t know, I’d think Aigis would be a better pick
Disney the: "This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things" company.
Well he's in smash bros but not sure for the next one
Watching this after Sora made it into smash was entertaining! Lol
I hope you let Kat from Gravity Rush return. I know this is just a fan-roster, and that GR is pretty niche, but it was my favorite game represented in the first PSASBR, and she had some of the funnest gameplay imho. EDIT: now that you did have her in (thanks, btw), I think you could’ve had a more interesting idea for her rivalry with Fat Princess. The second game had a running joke of Kat being really into food, and she’s technically a queen (albeit and amnesiac one), so she has more in common with FP than you gave her credit for. And on the subject of her rival, an interesting second rival for Kat would be Cole in a battle of electromagnetism vs gravity. She could also have a good echo fighter in the form of Raven, but I understand why you didn’t add her: not really a big enough franchise for two reps.
he did, don't worry :)
@@kaistephens2694 I see you didn’t read the part I edited in later.
There's something I think that could solve the two Coles thing in a possible sequel:
Let both be in, but as a single character. They could add some sort of gimmick where, depending on which attacks he uses, a Karma Bar starts building towards a Good side and a Evil side, and when it reaches the max on either one, it turns Cole into either his Hero or his Villain form, giving him different movesets, just like in the original game.
I love InFamous, so I think this would be the best way to implement that crucial part of the game into his playstyle
Kind of like the frisk moveset brawlfan1 made in his creating smash characters video
@@jmurray1110
Yeah, that was the main inspiration lol
1:07:25
A bloody Pyramid Head to come stumbling up to Heather with a long rusty blade, ready to slash her from behind only for her to turn around and blast it, turning it into a cartoony sheep that bounces away...
I NEED this in my life.
"Please let that Avengers game be good"
Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....
I swear I just got a cool idea for Abe
So, Snake has his codecs to where he has a talk with his fellow comrades, like Otacon, Mei Ling and Colonel Roy Campbell to talk about the fighters of smash that Snake is up against
So what if they do that with Abe except instead of Abe talking to somebody. It’s instead a news cast from M.O.M (Magog on the Marge) from Abe’s Exoddus with a Slig detailing on some of the fighters.
Hell, if villains are gonna be added (which might be a doubt idk) we could have the Slig talk about the villain but then the screen turns static and it transitions into a Glukkon (Possibly Molluck, Commander Dripig, V.P Aslik, or Dir. Phleg) giving their own thoughts about the villain in question.
That’s just my idea though
That might work better with Sly Cooper, with him talking to Maurice and Bentley. If Sly is fighting Nathan Drake, Bentley could say "You only steal from other theives, right? Then you've hit the jackpot with this guy."
I would love that.
I'm one of the 3 people who played the fat princess game religiously
I’m one of the 6,999,999,997 of the people that didn’t know what Fat Princess is!
The saddest part about PSABR being a flop was that the studio tried to pitch a new Rival Schools.
Sony really should reconsider doing a crossover honestly. It has potential and Nintendo could use some competition.
Yep.
They literally did… and it failed
I've seen a lot of dream rosters of Playstation Allstars and its rumored sequel but if I can combine all the roster ideas then it would be like smash ultimate if these roster builds for their names had already existed
Tomba was considered in the scrapped DLC for the original game along with the Dart from legend of dragoon. I would want both in along with Gabe Logan from siphon filter, relevancy to modern generations be damned. I also hear that Chun-li was in consideration along with a Ryu Hayabusa. I also think that Delsein Rowe would be a nice trade out for Evil Cole and I think this new Lombax in the ipcoming Ratchet has potential. I see your point with Quark, but would honestly prefer her or Nefarious.
@SpiteHook well the fact that we don't have said hypothetical crossover game and that could be plenty of years before it comes along. still I do see the point and would still prefer Nefarious as the other option, but open to him being part of a boss fight too. Heck maybe add Specter from Ape Escape to have one more mad genius to the mix.
Me and my fellow Legend of Dragoon fans are still upset about Dart getting his DLC character slot taken by Isaac Clarke from the Dead Space games.
1:16:54 better yet, each character has their own "story mode," like in Skullgirls. A plot driven forward by rival battles.
Playstation Allstars Battle Royale is the PERFECT example of an "Over-Hated" game.
This was before Smash was effectively finished as a franchise (At least for the time being) and the world was a LITTLE MORE ACCEPTING of "Smash-likes". Before the game even dropped, I distinctly and specifically remember how much hate it accrued for simply TRYING to exist. You couldn't go to reveal or promotional trailers online without the comments being FILLED with livid comments from Smash fans denouncing it as a "Smash clone" and deriding it from the top down. But then the game came out, and it DIDN'T play a whole lot like Smash; it had built in combos and strings and actively encouraged somewhat of a facilitated "Competitive" element (I put this in quotes because in the dev's own words, they WANTED it to be competitive), didn't rely on Ring-Outs as a method for defeating the opponent, Items and stage gimmicks were a little more nuanced and utility centric and its control scheme was not as intuitive as you'd think it would be. None of that mattered though, people went INTO the game expecting it to play like Smash due to their criticisms of it being a "Smash clone" and were ultimately disappointed when it DIDN'T play enough like Smash. It was incredibly frustrating for someone who JUST wanted to playa Brawler with Playstation Characters and didn't CARE about any of that or that it was a B-Tier game.
But that wasn't enough, because in the background of this you had the other debates about its roster, people whining and moaning about Crash and Spyro not being present. Well, they TRIED. The devs were sweating in the background to get these IP's and people kept shutting the doors on them, and Sony was not backing them either. They were out in the wild with a game literally carrying the name "Playstation" in its title but NO ONE was willing to help them outside of the handful of IP's they did acquire. Had the game not been roasted from the start and been allowed to accumulate a fanbase, it could have potentially secured some of those IP's. It might have GOTTEN a sequel that would have allowed them to followup on their original ideas but with more support from Sony.
But none of that happened. The entire thing was a passion project that everyone collectively turned their back on then gawked at its failure.
And the people who actually ENJOYED the game or JUST wanted a Playstation Brawler were cucked. Right idea, wrong time.
I don't think PAS is coming back. It was too negatively controversial and people crapped on the poor thing too hard. Sony looks back at this thing with shame and supporting a sequel is just going to be seen as a huge financial risk. I've love for it to return, but I have no faith in that happening.
(Original comment made by @Impalingthorn on Tactical Bacon Productions: We Need A New PlayStation All-Stars Game video)
Oh shit this was created on my B-day?
What a great gift!
Humor aside I been wanting people to talk about PSASBR so much but every time I mention the discussion to smash.
Hell smash recently put joker in and I was sad cause that means if he appeared in PSTABR they'd say "Oh it's just a smash clone."
So I'm gonna list a few changes I make to the series that could spark discussion!
1.If I had to change the series first the title needs to change to something more recognizable.
2. the battle system could change to a MVC life bars and multiple specials.(say what you will about current MVC but they put alot of care into how the characters move and what they could do.)
3, People need to be more lenient on how much cash they have as a creator so when they can't afford crash. (like PSAS asked for cloud and was outright denied, smash asked and got it easily and even square's SSN and first borns)
4. I(Let's say they had lucky and got the cash .) Well to generate interest there would be DLC and every other character+music/stage combo would have one free dlc character.
5. Dissidia like talk intros to each character
What do you think thus far?
You put Jin and william in but took out spiderman? Jk that's not my issue however I'd take them both out and Put Soki from Onimusha dawn of dreams in cause he basically functions as both of them combined.
It's important to keep the roster a class of characters people wont feel are a waste of a slot and both Jin/Willaim feel like Cornel radec of the new roster and Soki is the vastly better choice.
Heater is also to ambitious of a choice cause pyramid head literally is the better choice of a fighter.
no offense you lost me when you said joel and ellie can't be in (which I agree with) but heather who would die in a fight against sly cooper; has no leg to stand on.
So I would reconsider Heather.
Spiderman not being included because he's a comic character first is a smashism; smash said they wanted solely video game IP's. It doesn't apply to PSAS; they put in background characters from shooter games; spiderman can fit it perfectly.
Zidane's also not a sword guy, he's using twin knives, and if you look at FF9 footage or dissidia footage he makes a moveset that's all the more interesting than cloud's I'd also argue Terre from FF6 again look at dissida combo footage for a great moveset/special
If I had to add to your roster: I already mentioned Onimusha's Soki, Jin kazuma, Big daddy (The reason he can't be in makes zero sense; just cause he was on a xbox system prior, the sense and the reason he should be in is because he was able to be in the last PSAS's) Razz from psychonauts and Amaterasu from okami (Honorable mention would be Brooke Augustine cause this roster needs more villains. But I could save that for the theoretical sequel.)
Three Build the Roster Videos I would want:
Cartoon Network Punchtime Explosion 2 (Just one request: Billy and Mandy have to become separate characters at least.)
Nickelodeon Fracas Fun.
Disney's Duelling Dance.
*Looks at Sora in the honorable mentions*
Boy, did that not age well.
Seeing how Sakurai made Sora work without having Goofy and Donald in Smash, I can see it here. Maybe adding in Riku or Ventus would be cool
Or just use Aqua.
Sora didn’t age well
A great video with good points that made me go "Okay, fair enough." If I were to add to the roster (not by much), I would also add in:
- Dart Feld (The Legend of Dragoon) - An RPG with a cult following. The game sold pretty well, mostly in the US. Also, he was planned to be a DLC character in PS All-Stars (along with Abe), but was sadly cancelled. A sequel would help remedy that as well introduce more people to The Legend of Dragoon. His supers could be based on his Dragoon Attacks, with his Level 3 Special summoning the Red Eye Dragon.
- Delsin Rowe (Infamous) - I know we have Cole, but Delsin's moveset is completely different. He's a power sponge, and by the end of Second Son, he has Smoke, Neon, Video, and Concrete Powers. He can switch between powers, each having their own ups and downs. His Level 3 Special could be that Limit Break he does and it all depends on what power he has equipped.
- Robbit (Jumping Flash) - I haven't played the games, but the former was among the earliest titles on the original PlayStation. My knowledge is limited, but I think Robbit would have a decent moveset.
- Jaster Rogue (Rogue Galaxy) - Haven't played this one, either, but it was a PS2 exclusive that also came and went.
Robbit would be a dream come true! Loved playing Jumping Flash 2 as a kid, it's a very underrated series.
Agreed, I'd also add either Rudy or Virginia from Wild Arms and Kasumi to still have some Persona 5 flair in there.
I would want monokuma from danganronpa as a rep.
Jumping Flash was basically the proto Mario 64, showing what 3D gaming could be like
If you are looking for a popular character not from FFVII, Yuna is your best bet! FFX was a big deal for the PS2 and she is crazy popular (particularly in Japan) and has placed 2nd only to Cloud in multiple polls. She could either be her X-2 gunner, or her classic summoner using her summons like she does in the Dissidia games. Another good choice would be Vivi from FFIX - super popular and black mages are very iconic to the series. That being said Tifa is also a great choice and I would main the heck out of her in this roster.
If we get Yuna give us X-2 Gunner with her first two supers being various special attack skills, and her lv. 3 super being her using her personal ultimate Dressphere to turn into her Floral Maiden form and unleash that powerful energy beam attack.
I FREAKING LOVED THIS GAME, am I the only one that FREAKING LOVED THIS GAME
Great job. I hope to see you do more of this. Very fun series. Interesting and super entertaining
Enjoyed your roster for the most part. There's a few things that I disagree with but overall it's a pretty solid roster. Though I will say that Toro does not need to be cut. He may be obscure in the West, but he's Sony's official mascot in Japan. Not like Kratos or Ratchet where they're "unofficial", but an actual mascot. He kind of needs to be in.
Well, Sony pretty much killed off Toro in Japan the moment HQ was moved from Tokyo to Silicon Valley.
@@X2011racer Hold on, they just moved their AMERICAN offices, the main HQ is still Japan and Toro keeps receiving games as usual.
@@dragondelsur5156 The thing is, power was transferred to the American branch and that became HQ. The Japanese branch is pretty much just a sub branch now and has no say in major decisions, hence the decreased communication between them and Japanese developers such as Polyphony Digital, the Worldwide Censorship policy that affects every game, including those that causes Culture Shock, and other questionable decisions such as The Last of Us Part 2 and the Playstation Classic.
@@X2011racer The Last of Us part 2 was fault of the one directing the game, you know, Neil Cuckmann and the PlayStation Classic was only a failed piece of hardware. Also, there is no such thing as a "transference of power", all the HQs have different management depending on who is the CEO and not the same. Naughty Dog and Polyphony are USA companies, the rest don't follow that stupid censorship.
@@dragondelsur5156 Polyphony Digital is Japanese. Their offices are situated in Fukuoka, Japan since after the Tokyo Earthquake/Tsunami in 2011. However, since Sony's move to Silicon Valley, their support for Polyphony Digital had gotten worse, from not setting an issue with Lotus' parent company, who has an issue with Sony, resulting in Lotus' removal from GT Sport, to miscommunication regarding Laguna Seca last year, which angered a lot of fans as Sony told them the track will be added in an update later in September 2019, and Polyphony later said Sony was misinformed as an update wasn't ready by then.
To be honest, i like your roster, but you shifted your attention to the third party side of the console too much, so, i'll add mine:
-Dart (Legend of Dragoon)
-Raven (Gravity Rush)
-Astrobot (Same fucking name)
-Fetch (inFAMOUS)
-Knack (i know you wanted to make him the Waluigi of this game BUT, the difference is that Knack has a moveset, he saved the world with two punches and one kick)
-Joel (The Last of Us but only the first game, let's pretend the second one never existed)
-Lammy (Parappa the Rapper)
-Iota and Atoy (Terraway)
-Kyo Kusanagi and Iori Yagami (King of Fighters. I want them here because, if Tekken got Geese and Smash got Terry, then why not someone from KOF? They could even face each other in the rival battles)
-Toro Inoue (Yes, i know you cut him but listen, you complain about the big focus on the western side of the brand but you cut Toro, a japanise mascot, from the roster. Being Sony, they won't cut him from the game at all, especially considering that he was the first option for DLC in Street Fighter X Tekken)
-A custom character (i took the idea of PlayStation Home, the difference from the Miis is that there would be no classes, the playstyle is depending on the weapon you choose)
This time, to make this game stand out more, let's change the gameplay to a tradicional fighting game, it makes more sense than having realistic humans bouncing around the screen, if they want to keep 4 players on the screen, make it 2v2 or 3v3 like Marvel Vs Capcom. The question is, what this game would do differently? Bring back the stage collision but also have the option to disable it for players who want a classic experience.
For the story, because the rule for PlayStation is having some kind of narrative, i would take the narrative of Rift Appart. To resume, Nefarious tries to use the Dimensionator on Ratchet and Clank until Ratchet stupidly shoots it, causing masive chaos. Over time, this affects other PlayStation worlds and those heroes have to find out what's going on, simple stuff. Here, they will be divided on different groups depending on their similarities, for example, Kratos, Jin, the hunter and Aloy would conform one group, Ratchet, Jak and Sly Cooper would conform another, etc. Nefarious would be the base boss but a new face (or well, old face) would be joining, the rifts reach to a sealed dimension long ago which is where Polygon Man resides, but this time, he has a body instead of just being a head.
To end this, not everyone hated this game, the most hate came from the close minded Smash fanboys who don't know the brawler sub-genre is even a thing, All-Stars wasn't good but it wasn't bad either and many people is begging for a continuation, who knows, i would even go to Sony to propose my idea.
The only one here I am rooting for is Dart. Not having him is a huge issue with me.
Rivet and kit.
The Toro and Radec cuts were big oofs from me, my guy
Jacob Dickman I agree definitely
Looking back on this now is funny looking at Sora
I feel like the two Coles in the game actually makes sense from how the developers explain it. A big part of the Infamous series is how you can push the main character into either a superhero or a supervillain. So in order to represent that two characters were needed. Although now how I would do it is that Cole will represent the good path while the main character of Second Son will represent the evil path.
Also man if it wasn’t for Etna I would’ve used Valvatorez instead to specifically be Yu Narukami’s rival.
Also also I feel like Dart from Legend of Dragoon should be in the roster as well. Not only because he was going to be DLC in the original game with Abe but there also needs to be more JRPG reps in the game.
Maybe a morality system where depending on your move choice it could shift you to one side or the other and the different modes give you different abilities
Beside i do find hypocritical for him not wanting two versions of Cole and yet he had no problem with wanting two versions of Kratos.
To quote the wize words of Mr Findley: HELL, ITS ABOUT TIME
Here are my thoughts:
"10% of the population wants Knack but the other 80% doesn't mind not having Knack"
Yet you assume 80% of the planet want Coco, Tifa, Etna, Chloe and Kratos 2: Eletric Boogaloo included.
"Radec is too generic"
Yet there are a bunch of Sword Users.
"Too Western-focused"
Yet you cut Toro, Sony Japan's LITERAL mascot. Only 1 character in this lineup is supposed to be for Japan (Etna).
"The Last Of Us is too dark"
So is Bloodborne. So is God of War. So is Nioh. So is Ghost of Tsushima. So is Devil May Cry (eh, to a degree) yet they're all in.
Though, this has to be my favorite roster. I don't agree with your choices, but the love for this is impressive.
Nice video. Really cool picks here.(very surprised poeple wanted....spider man considering....y'know) also, Kiryu....may not be as easy to get as some might think. Simply put, the director REALLY doesn't want Kiryu to be hitting woman which is exemplified by the fact that there are NO female enemies in Yakuza games(makes your whole buildup with Tifa kinda just not work unfortunately)
What about Ichiban Kagusa or another Yakuza protagonist, or even Gojo Majima?
I feel like too many of these characters are going into the more serious side of playstation, which is fine but keep in mind that this is a slapstick fighting game. Look at Smash, Fire Emblem and Metroid are way more serious than the other franchises, but compared to the sheer amount of slapstick franchise characters present, it doesn't seem too bad. I'd say there should be more cartoony characters than serious ones or if not make the game more realistic.
I agree, a psychonauts rep would fit really well
Look at the Marvel vs Capcom they have Chris redfiled and nemesis I don’t see anyone complaining.
@@paulakroy2635 I think you misunderstand. MVC3 all things considered is fairly realistic with slapstick tendencies, plus the characters are stylized to fit the game. Smash does it too but Playstation didn't which is why it would be so weird, on top of that Chris Redfield and Nemisis are outnumbered by characters who fit in well much like Fire Emblem or Metroid in Smash. The number of cartoons to more realistic is about even which is why it clashed originally and clashes now
Don't confuse realistic with serious. Nathan Drake is cracking jokes every step he takes.
@@HeftyDan The reason Metroid and Fire Emblem fit in Smash isn't because of the sheer amount of "slapstick characters"; it's because Sakurai did his homework. I assume you watched Gameimgbrit or Shaymay's vids, but I just don't like how they use the term "slapstick" liberally. Especially since Zelda and Kirby get really dark. The truth is Sakurai made sure everything blended together while having the characters act like themselves.
For example; Ridley. He acts like himself when fighting other characters, mauling people up. In fact, put him next to a "less serious character" (Bowser). Hell, I'd argue Bowser is more serious in Smash than in his own games. The same can be done with Zero Suit Samus and Lady Palutana.
PSABR didn't have a consistent graphical theme. You can totally put these characters together and make them work.
There can be a Persona item where if a character holds the Arcana card, they will shout, "PERSONA!" A custom P3/P4 cut-in of the characters face will flash on-screen, and they will summon a random Persona like Jack Frost or Jack-O-Lantern. The custom cut-ins will be made by the Persona artist himself, Shigenori Soejima.
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I guess they changed their minds
The format is good and it's a very interesting video, well made video. We'd all make a few changes but that's part of the fun
1:08:08 so that’s where Toby fox got his own self insert for under-tale!
Actually, you're wrong about Snake. It was actually Cloud Strife that was the hardest to bring back to Smash. If Smash had a hard time bringing Smash, then PSAS doesn't have a chance.
Yep.
I gotta ask: Where was Dart Feld from Legend of Dragoon? You talked about cult classic characters selling the game, and it doesn't get much more cult classic than LoD. Hell, from what I understand, there was even an unused model for him in the original All-Stars' code, but he got cut from the roster for some reason. That alone should earn him a slot in the sequel!
Same thing with Abe from Oddworld
Personally I'd love to see some kind of attempt at another big Playstation crossover game. Playstation Move Heroes was... a game that exists... and Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale was... also a game that exists... yeah playstation definitely needs an actually great crossover game
A racing game would probably be the simplest crossover to make; placing everyone in a vehicle minimizes the number of mechanics you need to port over, so the devs can put more time into fine tuning the vehicle physics, high quality character animations, and interesting tracks with high replay value.