A month ago , I took delivery of a brand new CZ455 Varmint thumbhole with the heavy barrel . I torqued the action screws and tuned the trigger with a lighter spring . Off a bipod with good match ammo , it averages about .500 for 5 shots at 50M with a 15x scope . Not too bad . I just took delivery of a brand new Anshutz MPR . Using the same scope and bipod and shooting at the same range , it averaged .340 for five , 5 shot groups at 50M . This is the very first time shooting the rifle with zero tuning and zero ammo testing .and zero fliers . Both are great rifles , but in my case , the Anshutz is definitely , considerably more accurate . Huge price difference , but , the Anshutz is better .
I used Anschutz match rifles & air guns in State & National competition for 20 + years. Every US gold medal won in world shooting matchs was done with a Model 54 Anschutz . They have remained at the forefront of international shooting as the world leader. It has been the choice of champions setting record after record at the Olympic Games, World Cups and national shooting competitions. At 50 meters (55 yards ) they shoot 10 shot groups you can cover with a US Dime at 100 yards you can do it with a US nickle. They like Eley TENEX ammo the best. The reason the barrel is larger at the end is NOT for a iron sight as a higher sight base can be installed to raise the front sight if needed. Anschutz uses that area to hold the barrel while applying pressure to the end to insure that production barrels maintain match quality barrel after barrel because the end of the barrel is what needs to be the tightest.....Always buy the best, you always get your money back in the end.
I own a CZ455 with a 27 3/8" barrel. I use Browning 1435 f/s 40 gr ammo and indoor 100 yard range i get 10 shots in 1" group. My scope Nikon 3-9x40 prostaff. Total cost with mounts and scope $550. The CZ 455 is an amazingly accurate rifle.
Firearms definitely have a cost to performance curve. Performance goes up with cost rapidly until you reach a certain point, and then cost rises rapidly but the performance only increases slightly. The same thing can be said about sports cars.
Great video...... I agree, for the casual shooter, the CZ is an outstanding firearm. I guess if you have the money and want a serious rim fire rifle then the Anschutz is the one to get, but after seeing some of the accuracy results it kinda makes you wonder ( by the way, Koko Head Range isn't the easiest range to do accuracy work on...often times it's like shooting in a wind tunnel...lol). I'm thinking a trigger kit on that CZ like the one from "Yo-Dave" would do wonders. I'll be at Koko Head tomorrow with a CZ 452 Ultra Lux that I picked up and just put a scope on and will see how the accuracy is (this rifle has a trigger kit in it and is almost scary light). Take care and aloha....
irishd, I have both of these rifles the Anschutz64MPR and the CZ455 . I put the Yo-Dave lightest trigger spring on my CZ. .8oz pull and my Anschutz has .7-.8oz. pull and I like the CZ trigger better. I can’t get the creep out of the #5097 Anschutz trigger. The adjustment is all the way outie(counter clockwise and still have the same creep I am not a fan of the two stage trigger for competition.
Both are excellent riffles and more than accurate enough for the casual shooter or hunter. In a match setting when you're counting X's instead of 10 rings, I'd opt for the Anschutz. By the time you barrel the CZ, do the stock work or especially replace the stock you are at the Annie price and you still have the CZ trigger. The factory Anschutz triggers are fantastic out of the box.
I have the 452 FS (Mannlicher stock) which preceded the 455. Even with the shorter barrel on the FS (about 2" shorter than the American), it is an incredibly accurate rifle. No problem with dime groups of 5 at 50 yards, and even at 100 yards very accurate. I improved the trigger simply by changing the spring. Wouldn't knock the Anschutz, but for the money, for the average shooter, can't beat CZ. The Czechs know how to build firearms. (Well, so do the Germans but...)
I like all around rifles. That Anschutz is just a Target Monster you can have it. Those groups you shot with a CZ are good enough and no ejection issues.
It is a target monster, heavy as F*ck too. but on a bench or prone.. I love mine but would never even try to hunt with it, unless a spend 2 years at the gym before the hunt.
Heard about ejection issues, I must be a lucky one, haven't have a single one firing more than 5000+ rounds with it.i hope it keeps on like that..maybe it's a issue that occurs after a lot of rounds?
actually I just did hunt with it works nice, but a shooting stick like my tripod-stick is a must due the wight with that 1,3 kg scope on it (it's 4,6 kg empty without scope or mounts) it's a lot to carry around but worth the accuracy and intuitive trigger
I just picked up my CZ 455 training, so far so good, i like the fact i can change out the barrel for 17 hmr , or 22 wmr ....my CZ has the front and rear sights.
I have an Anschutz andr CZs. I have four CZ's because after buying a CZ 75 pistol years ago, and discovering just what a great gun it was, I decided to try a CZ.22 rifle when they first arrived in this area. I became an immediate CZ fan, and acquired more rifles and a number of CZ pistols in varying calibers. Dollar for dollar i believe they are among the top values in the industry, in terms of quality of fdinish and materials and accuracy against more high dollar guns. When I find a CZ 7.62X39 it will have a new home too.
And when you do find it you will love it. I have an stock M&M AK 47 that marvels other AK owners I've met at the range with its accuracy and consistently. My CZ 527 Carbine 7.62x39 blows it away. In 22lr's I have 3 CZ 453's (American, Varmint & Lux), 2 455's (Tacticool & a Full Stock) and a 452 FS. Now I know there are many variables but based on what I saw here any one of my CZ's out shoots that Anne, and with no extraction problems I may add.
bought the cz 457 with the varmint 22LR barrel and have to say it amazes me. I will get a 22Mag hunting barrel for it soon and have the best of both worlds... JOY!
Hello Hawaii, In order to compare the accuracy of the 2 rifles, I would recommend you enlist a serious Benchrest shooter. He will have a proper front rest and rear sandbags. And most important, he will have many years experience. Also you would/ should use 4 or 5 different types of ammunition. PS: most shooters are willing to share their knowledge and experience, (which makes shooting unique to other sports.) :)
+John Debest the goal is to see what a crappy shooter like me can do not an expert, not with fancy bs, but with the skills and equipment most people would have
If you are comparing the guns (which was the title of the video) it should be about the guns. With a professional shooter at the least, and ultimately in a fixed rest.
@@KIMO365 I enjoyed your review, but I must say that just watching you on the bench, it is obvious why the guns grouped similarly. You were the limiting factor. I wouldn't call a sock full of gravel used as a rear bag something outside of attainable equipment for a new shooter. I wouldn't say the knowledge to have proper benchrest form is "fancy bs". It's as attainable as having internet access and being literate. If anything, using an optic instead of peep sights would be the fancy part.
I have owned an Anschutz 64 MPR for a few years now. It's a great rifle and extremely accurate with the right ammo. I'm having extraction issues with mine, too. I am going to start shooting Rimfire F-Class this spring when the leagues start up.
great review and thx. I like the 455 and the Anschutz 64 MPR . The Anschutz 64 MPR is more geared towards NRA , CMP Smalbore 3 Position you know. The extra weight and setup works there, but not so much in the field. Thx, again!
Extraction issues... I have both a CZ 455 in .22LR and a Sako 75 Varmint in .222 Rem. Both have very high quality scopes. The Sako will easily shoot about half-MOA at 100 yards if I don't mess up; the CZ will shoot larger, but still under 1 MOA if I don't mess up. Your shots with the CZ are very good; your one-hole group is impressive. Now - extraction - the funny thing is that my much more expensive Sako has problems just like your Anschütz. It's annoying to have 3 or 4 rounds out of 5 fall back into the action. I think the extractor spring is just too weak. Thank you for a good video.
I used the 243 anschutz for Rowe & fallow Perfect accurate up to 500-800 vermin control comfortable. It was one of my tools for 10 yrs. upgraded my 2 stage to hair pretty much Well worth it if your pure vermin control
I've two CZ455s with several barrels. It's a great feature to be able to change calibers with barrels. However, once you've settled down on your purpose's requirement (like hunting with 17hmr or paper target with 22lr, and achieved what you'd think is the Best accuracy/repeatability possible), you're likely to leave the barrel alone and rarely change it again!! AND with the price, you may as well get another CZ455 for another caliber that you would like to have, and have it READY to shoot.I'm a BenchRest guy and have determined that the Best 22LR BRest CZ455 is a Synthetic stock with American (tapered) barrel, with the following modifications:1. Replace the trigger spring with a spring cut from 10/22 recoil spring, cut to 80% of original CZ trigger spring length. Then pull it out slightly to 90%, to make it put just enough pressure for the sear to latch. This gave me about 10-ounce trigger.2. rub the sear engagement surfaces, from inside to the sear edge (to insure sharp break) about 10 times with 1000grit sand paper. This will smooth it out.3. Stuff Play-Doh into the crevice back of the synthetic stock and the handle part, to full. Then recap. This makes the stock heavier BUT extremely steady and damps vibration.4. Bed full length of barrel with Devcon and Pillar the two bolt (buy pillar sleeve on ebay).With 18x Redfield scope, I can consistently get 0.220-0.250" grouping of 5 shots at 50yards, with Eley Target or SK Std+ ammo. The best group thus far is 0.150" !! I've scour local market, because I know I can modify them to be good guns, for resell of CZ455 but can't find any, for a year now. Meanwhile, I've had people approach me to sell Annie. So I disagree with the notion that Annies are hard to find and CZ455 resell is "everywhere". That's just baloney. I don't see the point of paying the equivalence of 2-3 more CZ455s for an Annie, just to get only 0.100" better than what I am getting with CZ455 group-ability. Perhaps that's why people try to sell me their Annies.
Anschutz rifles ares for skilled shooters with top match ammunition. The regular shooter will not see a great difference between an "Annie" and a good but regular, run of the mill 22. The M1913 can put 10 rounds at 50 meters into a one quarter of an inch consistently. Besides, it is a competition rifle, not a hunting rifle. So stay with the CZ, it makes more sense for the average skill level shooting average ammo. I am showing personal bias, but I own two Annies, an M1913 competition and a M1416 sporter/hunting rifle. Both are accurate but for different purposes. The difference? the M1913 Super Match ($3000.00) is a 1/4 inch rifle heavy weight for 3 position shooting and the M1416 is a 1/2 inch rifle light weight ($1200.00) for hunting and sports shooting. The ammunition used is paramount, cheap ammo will give you less than mediocre results in any rifle and good ammo with will the opposite in most rifles but precision rifles will always do light years better and that justifies the cost for the precision user. As the saying goes, "it is not a rifle, it is an Anschutz"
When you are measuring groups down to .001 inch, then you will see the difference in accuracy. For the average joe who isn't doing competition. The CZ is more then plenty.
Always on the prowl for an Anschütz 54 Silhouette at a good price that hasn't had the barrel shot out of it. Quite sure the Anschütz trigger puts the stock CZ trigger to shame. But, everyone has been upgrading the CZ triggers with those Yo'Dave Trigger kits. Would be interesting to see what a skilled marksman can do with both given the updated trigger options for the CZ ...
My left handed CZ 452 rifle will out shoot most any high end target rifles I've owned or shot. My first 5-shot group with SK target rifle ammo out of the 452 was one hole at 50 yards that measured .093" center to center. This group was witnessed by others.
I just ordered a cz 455 varmint. I have a nikon prostaff but looking to upgrade to a vortex but you've turned my attention to the weaver t36 I'll have to check into them. Great vid.
Great video one of the best. but if 9 lb is heavy you should get some weights and start working out. I would like to see the Savage Mark II TR in there as well. I just love the heavy barrels. and the TR stock fits me on the bench or just plane having fun.
You can continue on this theme......I have a cheaper Savage MKII with bull barrel....I pillar-bedded the gun with lamp-rod, and did my own trigger job to duplicate (improve on ?) the Apache trigger pieces ( down to 1-1.5 lbs pull). Using pre-2018 made Wolf MT and ME ammo, and firing off a bench with a cheap UTG bipod....I'm getting close to 1/2" groups at 50 yds. Like you......I can't very often get all 5 shots to "hold-hands" ...as you say...but often get close. All-up price including the Tasco Varmint 6-24 mil-dot scope ( no longer made) and Burris Signature Z rings....about $350 in 2015 dollars. (Aside.....I've looked at the build-architecture of Annie 64 vs this Savage, and see a remarkable similarity in design between the two . Does anyone have a good knowledge of the design history/background of these 2 rifles?......whether one or the other copied elements of the design?...etc?. I know Savage was previous Canadian Lakefield, but historically speaking can't find much.
Nice rifles .Lapua ,Eley ,SK ,RW, Wolf should help tighten groups. I know it's not on the shelf local. Have to get them by the brick. So when you find one it likes to eat you can feed it from the same lot number. Midway USA has free shipping on weekends. My Sako p94s Range. Has a diet of Center X but got a brick of SK standard that preform as well for half the price. I got all match ammo then tested. Eley rifle match came in close 3rd. I keep all 3 on hand as the Sako gets fed often. Happy plinking !
A 64 action Anschutz, IMO, isn't better built than a CZ 452/453/455. They may (or may not) have better factory barrels. A 54 action Anschutz is inarguably one of the best rimfire actions in existence but the 64 actions are not nearly as well crafted.
“They may or may not have better factory barrels” dude it’s not even a comparison. Why do you think they use one in the olympics and the other doesn’t?
Don't think the Olympics use stock guns. The world record for most sporting clays was set buy the cz1012 and it is the worst shotgun I have ever owned. Yes I'm a cz fan. I owned both a cz455 and a anschutz, both completely stock and the cz was more accurate when pushing the round out to 150-200 yards. I still own the 455.
I have a anschutz 54 target heavey barrel and a cz 455 th with yo Dave . I can shoot 1 hole for 5'shots with anschutz and cloverleaf the cz both great guns
You can reduce your group size by half if you stop shooting with the stock of the rifle basically floating against your shoulder and start using a rear sandbag under the stock butt. Your technique is the problem, and it is surprising that you're getting the groups the size you are getting.
Not many of us sportsmen can afford an expensive rifle like that. Its worth every penny no doubt. I own the CZ 455 Varmint in. 22mag and. 17hmr. I can put a groundhogs eye out at 250yds with very little effort with my .17hmr. The. 22mag is also extremely accurate. More accurate than most. 22mags. If you put all of the refining quality in the CZ that is found in the other rifle, it would be extremely difficult to choose the Anschutz rifle. My guns kill. They don't punch paper. CZ rimfire rifles feel and shoulder like big game rifles. The CZ that you show is a field rifle. The other rifle has a lot of features heading more toward a target rifle. The CZ brand is a superb product. They do everything extremely well. At $456 I have a extremely well made and accurate platform in each rifle. For a working man, I couldn't have done better.
Same problem with my Bolt Action 581s... Cleaned it and lightly oiled it.. problem fixed. Bolt was smoother and it ejected the fired cases as it should. Even brand new out of the box new rifles need to be cleaned and oiled before the first shot is fired. I shot a bunch of different 22 LR ammo to find what my rifle shot the best. Mini-Mags,40gr RN, Auto Match 40gr RN, and Federal American Eagle, 5 shots, all holes touching.
The 64 action is the entry level action, their target rille action is the 54. A huge difference between the two. Barrels (Lothar Walther) is the same on a 64 and a 54.
I always wondered about that because I can shoot the same with most 22lr rifles. I know some feel better but on target about the same so I always liked the lighter weight Vs. the fanciest rifle.
You put that anschutz in my hands with the right rest set up/ and right match ammo, you would lose everytime with the CZ. Oh, and do a bit of research instead of complaining about how the CZ chambers ammo easier. The Anchutz will have a tighter chamber( match reamed) that seats only certain match rounds because the the rifling engages with the bullet driving band. True accuracy potential wasn't even close to being shown with either of the rifles used.
That was a good review. I agree with your assessment, for the average guy and shooter using stock ammo. The CZ is the way to go. A $400 rifle vs $1,000 rifle with comparable optics, why spend the extra $600. Will the $1,000 rifle have a better resale value of course and as was stated before is a great family heirloom. One thing though, match Grade ammo may reduce the flyers for your tests.
Bryan Moore, about only accurizing needed is a Yo- Dave trigger kit the; correct scope, and rail for your type of shooting and the ammo it likes best. The barrel is free floated and the action in my CZ455 is actually a little smoother that my Anschutz64MPR and that is impressive. The 64MPR IS DEFINITELY NOT A RIFLE FOR HUNTING AS it will wear you out it is so darn heavy.
The 455 CZ trigger is adjustable. Take the action out of the stock and the adjustment screw is right there, takes less than 5 minutes. My 455 breaks like glass and I did not have to waste money on an aftermarket trigger.
At 100 yards the extra money isn't worth it. However no other rifles other than .22 caliber are more ammo sensitive because of so many ammo choices. If you know what I mean.
Hmmm.... I have never owned or shot either the 455 or the Anshutz. I do own a CZ 452 in .22lr and it is "accurate", very accurate! With the right ammunition and proper shooting technique, that 452 will easily put shots into sub .25 inch at 55 yards and often groups into one hole at that distance. I don't recall what I paid for it, around 400 bucks I believe. I cannot see paying 1200 bucks for a rifle that might out shoot it by a few thousands of an inch, if in fact it can! CZ has their act together when it comes to building high quality firearms at very affordable prices. Personally, I wouldn't trade my CZ 452 for anything else out there for any reason! My CZ shoots extremely small groups, is extremely reliable, is a very handsome rifle and holds its zero. I like my 452 so much that I purchased a CZ 457 in .17 HMR and am in the process of deciding what scope to put on it! I have every confidence that it to, will be a shooter... Now, about that model 550 in .416 Rigby! :)
its funny that both the cz and the anschutz are beyond the skill level of the shooter and the quality of the ammunition, which makes this whole discussion pointless. the cz452 when tuned and matched to ammunition such as the sk rifle match, will shoot sub 0.4moa with a skilled shooter at 50m. all these targets really indicate is the cz firing pin and bolt needed cleaning, and the tightest group over all was shot by the CZ lol. The Anschutz 64 is the benchmark for target rifles world wide, yet the CZ455 "American" is not even the most accurate rifle in the CZ .22lr range and is designed specifically as a multi caliber "light"field rifle for scope use. Ive been testing tactical scopes for an optics company for a few years now and the CZ452 lux is sub 0.4moa at 50m if matched to quality ammunition. I have not had a single flier over 0.7moa in over 1000 rounds. The CZ452 lux is meant as a field rifle, but can be found in long distance .22 range shooting, 50m target shooting, and is a legend within the hunting community.
looking at the targets closely, there are suspicious groupings for both rifles which indicate neither is well tuned. firing pin spring on the CZ is stringing, which indicates it is possibly fouled, or needs the spring replaced with a heavier spring for the ammunition being used. The Anschutz has a different problem. you can see the multiple grouping points on at least 3 of the targets, which could indicate harmonic variations. This could be due to an obstruction making contact with the barrel or incorrect tensions etc. obviously, another reason could simply be poor shooting. when you buy any rifle, it is likely to need tuning, ammunition matching, and fine adjustment to obtain a high level of accuracy. even after matching ammunition, changing out the trigger, firing pin spring and replacing the stock, the cz455 will still be cheaper than the Anschutz, and will probably rival a "stock" Anschutz 64 MPR. If you were going to go into the Olympics however, you would be unlikely to use a CZ455 lol.
pepperoni prepper, I have both the Cz455 and the Anschutz64M PR with the weaver 36 power target scope ie( same exact set up)and the two are very accurate at 200yds. BR f- Class, using Eley Match ammo. However when it comes to the Olympics ie the South Korean Winter Olympics Anschutz rifles in every competition both women and men placed Gold,Silver and Bronze medals. There was not another make of rifle that placed period. Of course those are special custom rifles. Google it.
I shoot 200yds with the exact 64mpr set up and have the CZ455 with the Weaver T36 used in both rifles as well as a 6x18 scope in the CZ455 I have tested atleast 12 different hi-end .22 target ammo in both rifles. The Anschutz is very specific on certain kinds of ammo at 200 yds. and the CZ not so. I would agree with everything in this video except the 64M PR is now $1350 + tax and also the magazine takes two hands to release it 👎🏻etc... If I had to do it again I think I would Buy a CZ in the trainer version with a H B & longer barrel than 20.5” and if it shoots any better than my CZ455 it woukd easily be more accurate than the ANSCHUTZ 64M PR. The best ammo for my Anschutz M PR is ELEY MATCH (B+) so far 🤔 and I have tried Lapua CENTER X, ((C), wALL the Federal Match brands ie(FED. TARGET (C), FED MATCH (C+), HV MATCH (C+), FED. HV MATCH (B), RWS Rifle Match (C-), RWS SPECIAL MATCH (C), FED. Ultra Match (C+), Eley Contact (C+), ELEY TARGET (C-), ELEY EDGE (B), ELEY TENEX (B), CCI STD.(C-), etc... This was with the M PR64, at 200yds. No wind 74 degrees The best ammo with the CZ455 at 100yds. with a 6X18 cheap scope was RWS LONG RANGE MATCH (A)👍 $8.50/ box from Champions choice. My favorite RIFLE is turning back too the CZ455 🙄. The action is smoother than the ANSCHUTZ 64, 😏 is much lighter and so far is almost tied for accuracy 🤫. my only complaint with CZ 455 is the stock is too short and primarily made for a youth or girl which I don’t understand why it is so short 🥴
You do realize you keep referring to it as having a Hardwood stock vs a Walnut stock? A walnut stock is a hardwood stock a hardwood stock means you just don't know what hardwood was used.
Anschutz V cz ,not a fair fight mate. I shot small bore target for years and hunted with a BRNO mod 2 also , both great at what they were made for ,but different things mate .PS I am nice ,so i won't comment on your groups.
What did Anschutz say when you called them about your extraction trouble? I suspect it was driver error. More likely ammo related? Same Ammo in the CZ? Follow up video please. 👍🇺🇲😷. Excellent slow, focused, well lit close up details
That sounds a bit....stupid Doyle. Is the video about a 6000.00 Oly grade Anschutz? It's about a 450.00 .22 rimfire. Why are people so fkn dumb. Olympics?
I think I struck a nerve. I own a CZ centerfire rifle. Love it and its price point. I assume your statement that a CZ will shoot with the best means that it will hold its own in competition. Such as American Rimfire Assoc. benchrest shoots,, mini palma events and metallic shilouette matches? They don,t. At the last mini palma event I attened Anschutz took the top three spots. Anschutz 1710 and 1712 with their 54 actions and triggers are the most accurate and reliable off the shelf 22 rimfire rifle made. What else would explain their popularity and the $2,200 price?
I removed the trigger spring, removed two coils, polished the ends and reinstalled. Instant 2lb pull. Matches all my other rifles now and only cost me "time".... ;)
CZ should put their set trigger on the 455. They used to have it standard on some of their 22s.He didn't state what ammo he was using, or the distance he was shooting at (was it 50 or 100 yds?) If that was 100 yds that's nothing to be ashamed of off a bag with average target ammo (not Eley Black or Red Box).
The extraction issues are probably from the tight match chamber they use, possibly combined with whatever ammo you were using, I didn't hear what was used.
You should be using front and rear bags for the tests. My Anschutz 1727 17hmr will easily out group any of my other rifles at 100 yards. (On a calm day)
Great video. Are you sure that the cz's trigger isn't adjustable? On the CZ website it says that the trigger is adjustable on all the 455 versions. Again great video thanks for sharing the info!
There is a nut on the trigger spring to adjust tension but I'm not sure about adjusting the weight lighter than 3-4 lbs with a stock trigger spring. There's the YoDave kit that includes shim tubes to adjust sear engagement so you can take it all the creep which would be more important to me than just lightening the trigger.
Do you shoot at the public range down near Punchbowl? I used the pistol range there quite often years ago. Nice video and explanation of CZ vs Anschutz. I have a 455 with 22 WMR and LR barrels.
Comparing these two rifle models is like comparing a helicopter to a fighter jet,...yup they both fly, but!!!!!! One is Turkish walnut and the other is 'hardwood????? No shit there Batman! They're both wonderful .22 rifles,...I would enjoy them both, for what they were designed for.
You should have shot a CZ Varmint with a heavy barrel. Or even an Ultra Lux with the 28'' barrel. Apples to apples. I'll put my CZ 453 with its set trigger up against that Anchutz anyday.
+Simone Stella Simone fer sure, but the idea was to take the bottom and the top and see what the outcome would be, looks like the CZ even at its entry level did a great job, thanks for the views!
Alan Lees No one is arguing. I'm basing my opinion on actual real world experience. I have seen the outcomes of many matches where both were used and CZ's have often come out on top, both used by very capable shooters. Anscuhtz are not the final word.
Anschutz with the Match 54 action i.e. 1710 & 1712 are the final word in accuracy for .22 LR sporters. If you believe otherwise, you've never tried one.
Whether it's casual or serious, the accuracy potential of a rifle does not change or get detracted. To even say they both shoot the same soley based on your ability of accuracy testing, of which you pointed out is not that great, is not a justifiable statement. You also pointed out the CZ can be upgraded to match the Anshutz, that's a broad statement. Theres differnet Anschutz actions, the economy 64 like that your comparing here and theres the true match grade 54. So to clarify, the CZ can shoot with the Anschutz 64 after upgrading to a better than factory Lilja barrel, a bedded stock, and trigger work. But now that the CZ has run you up to the cost of an Anschutz 64 and the Anschutz still has a better trigger. But even after building up that CZ it won't match the Anschutz 54.
I have a CZ455 and get 0.5" groups at 100 yds consistently with bulk federal from SGammo. It is a fantastic 22. Plus with the ability to switch out barrels in less than 5 minutes you can have a 17HMR and 22Mag for $250.
Hi, nice review, but i keep wondering about something : why don't you shoot using the bipods ? It reminds me yesterday : my shooting monitor told me that a benchrest system is much more accurate than a bipod (even if mine is an Atlas V8) Thanks for your answer, i feel concerned as i own a 64 MPR...
A month ago , I took delivery of a brand new CZ455 Varmint thumbhole with the heavy barrel . I torqued the action screws and tuned the trigger with a lighter spring . Off a bipod with good match ammo , it averages about .500 for 5 shots at 50M with a 15x scope . Not too bad . I just took delivery of a brand new Anshutz MPR . Using the same scope and bipod and shooting at the same range , it averaged .340 for five , 5 shot groups at 50M . This is the very first time shooting the rifle with zero tuning and zero ammo testing .and zero fliers . Both are great rifles , but in my case , the Anshutz is definitely , considerably more accurate . Huge price difference , but , the Anshutz is better .
As much as I love CZs, your post doesn't surprise me. I suspected the Anshutz would be a bit more accurate.
I can "out shoot" the CZ. I cannot "out shoot" the Anschutz. And most likely will never come close.
obvious enthusiasm and humour . . probably good enough for an entry level shooter to get a comparison . . well done
I used Anschutz match rifles & air guns in State & National competition for 20 + years. Every US gold medal won in world shooting matchs was done with a Model 54 Anschutz . They have remained at the forefront of international shooting as the world leader. It has been the choice of champions setting record after record at the Olympic Games, World Cups and national shooting competitions. At 50 meters (55 yards ) they shoot 10 shot groups you can cover with a US Dime at 100 yards you can do it with a US nickle. They like Eley TENEX ammo the best. The reason the barrel is larger at the end is NOT for a iron sight as a higher sight base can be installed to raise the front sight if needed. Anschutz uses that area to hold the barrel while applying pressure to the end to insure that production barrels maintain match quality barrel after barrel because the end of the barrel is what needs to be the tightest.....Always buy the best, you always get your money back in the end.
My aunts hair was used in bomb sights during WWII. Perfect size and color.
I own a CZ455 with a 27 3/8" barrel. I use Browning 1435 f/s 40 gr ammo and indoor 100 yard range i get 10 shots in 1" group. My scope Nikon 3-9x40 prostaff. Total cost with mounts and scope $550. The CZ 455 is an amazingly accurate rifle.
Firearms definitely have a cost to performance curve. Performance goes up with cost rapidly until you reach a certain point, and then cost rises rapidly but the performance only increases slightly. The same thing can be said about sports cars.
true and there is a level of skill required to even be able to take advantage of the extra performance
Love my CZ452, most accurate 22 rim fire I have ever shot. Cost me $225 in as new condition with a fairly good scope and CZ mounts.
I have a 9mm CZ pistol and two Anschutz rifles . Love them all !! Outstanding brands!
I've had 2 452's for about 4 years and they are both great rifled for target shooting
Great video...... I agree, for the casual shooter, the CZ is an outstanding firearm. I guess if you have the money and want a serious rim fire rifle then the Anschutz is the one to get, but after seeing some of the accuracy results it kinda makes you wonder ( by the way, Koko Head Range isn't the easiest range to do accuracy work on...often times it's like shooting in a wind tunnel...lol). I'm thinking a trigger kit on that CZ like the one from "Yo-Dave" would do wonders. I'll be at Koko Head tomorrow with a CZ 452 Ultra Lux that I picked up and just put a scope on and will see how the accuracy is (this rifle has a trigger kit in it and is almost scary light).
Take care and aloha....
irishd, I have both of these rifles the Anschutz64MPR and the CZ455 . I put the Yo-Dave lightest trigger spring on my CZ. .8oz pull and my Anschutz has .7-.8oz. pull and I like the CZ trigger better. I can’t get the creep out of the #5097 Anschutz trigger. The adjustment is all the way outie(counter clockwise and still have the same creep I am not a fan of the two stage trigger for competition.
Both are excellent riffles and more than accurate enough for the casual shooter or hunter. In a match setting when you're counting X's instead of 10 rings, I'd opt for the Anschutz. By the time you barrel the CZ, do the stock work or especially replace the stock you are at the Annie price and you still have the CZ trigger. The factory Anschutz triggers are fantastic out of the box.
Number6oftheBoys you nailed it bud well said 👍
I have the 452 FS (Mannlicher stock) which preceded the 455. Even with the shorter barrel on the FS (about 2" shorter than the American), it is an incredibly accurate rifle. No problem with dime groups of 5 at 50 yards, and even at 100 yards very accurate. I improved the trigger simply by changing the spring. Wouldn't knock the Anschutz, but for the money, for the average shooter, can't beat CZ. The Czechs know how to build firearms. (Well, so do the Germans but...)
I like all around rifles. That Anschutz is just a Target Monster you can have it. Those groups you shot with a CZ are good enough and no ejection issues.
It is a target monster, heavy as F*ck too. but on a bench or prone.. I love mine but would never even try to hunt with it, unless a spend 2 years at the gym before the hunt.
@@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490 I suppose it's not a good idea to go hunting with a cal. 22 anyway. It's purpose is target shooting
Heard about ejection issues, I must be a lucky one, haven't have a single one firing more than 5000+ rounds with it.i hope it keeps on like that..maybe it's a issue that occurs after a lot of rounds?
actually I just did hunt with it works nice, but a shooting stick like my tripod-stick is a must due the wight with that 1,3 kg scope on it (it's 4,6 kg empty without scope or mounts) it's a lot to carry around but worth the accuracy and intuitive trigger
I just picked up my CZ 455 training, so far so good, i like the fact i can change out the barrel for 17 hmr , or 22 wmr ....my CZ has the front and rear sights.
I have an Anschutz andr CZs. I have four CZ's because after buying a CZ 75 pistol years ago, and discovering just what a great gun it was, I decided to try a CZ.22 rifle when they first arrived in this area. I became an immediate CZ fan, and acquired more rifles and a number of CZ pistols in varying calibers. Dollar for dollar i believe they are among the top values in the industry, in terms of quality of fdinish and materials and accuracy against more high dollar guns. When I find a CZ 7.62X39 it will have a new home too.
And when you do find it you will love it. I have an stock M&M AK 47 that marvels other AK owners I've met at the range with its accuracy and consistently. My CZ 527 Carbine 7.62x39 blows it away. In 22lr's I have 3 CZ 453's (American, Varmint & Lux), 2 455's (Tacticool & a Full Stock) and a 452 FS. Now I know there are many variables but based on what I saw here any one of my CZ's out shoots that Anne, and with no extraction problems I may add.
bought the cz 457 with the varmint 22LR barrel and have to say it amazes me. I will get a 22Mag hunting barrel for it soon and have the best of both worlds... JOY!
Hello Hawaii, In order to compare the accuracy of the 2 rifles, I would recommend you enlist a serious Benchrest shooter. He will have a proper front rest and rear sandbags. And most important, he will have many years experience. Also you would/ should use 4 or 5 different types of ammunition. PS: most shooters are willing to share their knowledge and experience, (which makes shooting unique to other sports.) :)
+John Debest the goal is to see what a crappy shooter like me can do not an expert, not with fancy bs, but with the skills and equipment most people would have
If you are comparing the guns (which was the title of the video) it should be about the guns. With a professional shooter at the least, and ultimately in a fixed rest.
@@catmanisgod8200 except the title says "before *you* buy" so unless you is a pro shooter, it's not about pro shooters
@@KIMO365 I enjoyed your review, but I must say that just watching you on the bench, it is obvious why the guns grouped similarly. You were the limiting factor. I wouldn't call a sock full of gravel used as a rear bag something outside of attainable equipment for a new shooter. I wouldn't say the knowledge to have proper benchrest form is "fancy bs". It's as attainable as having internet access and being literate. If anything, using an optic instead of peep sights would be the fancy part.
CZ455 Rules! Great out of the box but with a Yodave kit and pillar bedding combined with a quality scope and you have a tack driver.
Thanks for a really good video mate. The weather and scenery at your range looks cracking. I've told my mates to subscribe too!!
Been looking at both rifles the vidio helped me decide.Thanks
I have owned an Anschutz 64 MPR for a few years now. It's a great rifle and extremely accurate with the right ammo. I'm having extraction issues with mine, too. I am going to start shooting Rimfire F-Class this spring when the leagues start up.
I know this is 6yrs ago, but i love your cap 👍
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great review and thx. I like the 455 and the Anschutz 64 MPR . The Anschutz 64 MPR is more geared towards NRA , CMP Smalbore 3 Position you know. The extra weight and setup works there, but not so much in the field. Thx, again!
Wow the whole range to yourself..and it hawaii..So nice and great video..cz for me
When I lived in NC, about 6 local school shooting teams switched over from old worn out Anshutz rifles to the CZ 452 Trainer.
Old worn out anshutz to new CZ....and the point is?
I just got a 455 target. Excellent one hole @ 50 yards.
Extraction issues... I have both a CZ 455 in .22LR and a Sako 75 Varmint in .222 Rem. Both have very high quality scopes. The Sako will easily shoot about half-MOA at 100 yards if I don't mess up; the CZ will shoot larger, but still under 1 MOA if I don't mess up. Your shots with the CZ are very good; your one-hole group is impressive. Now - extraction - the funny thing is that my much more expensive Sako has problems just like your Anschütz. It's annoying to have 3 or 4 rounds out of 5 fall back into the action. I think the extractor spring is just too weak. Thank you for a good video.
I used the 243 anschutz for Rowe & fallow Perfect accurate up to 500-800 vermin control comfortable. It was one of my tools for 10 yrs. upgraded my 2 stage to hair pretty much Well worth it if your pure vermin control
At one minute 14 seconds into the video I knew I would like this video.
+Strutingeagle lol thanks for watching!
I've two CZ455s with several barrels. It's a great feature to be able to change calibers with barrels. However, once you've settled down on your purpose's requirement (like hunting with 17hmr or paper target with 22lr, and achieved what you'd think is the Best accuracy/repeatability possible), you're likely to leave the barrel alone and rarely change it again!! AND with the price, you may as well get another CZ455 for another caliber that you would like to have, and have it READY to shoot.I'm a BenchRest guy and have determined that the Best 22LR BRest CZ455 is a Synthetic stock with American (tapered) barrel, with the following modifications:1. Replace the trigger spring with a spring cut from 10/22 recoil spring, cut to 80% of original CZ trigger spring length. Then pull it out slightly to 90%, to make it put just enough pressure for the sear to latch. This gave me about 10-ounce trigger.2. rub the sear engagement surfaces, from inside to the sear edge (to insure sharp break) about 10 times with 1000grit sand paper. This will smooth it out.3. Stuff Play-Doh into the crevice back of the synthetic stock and the handle part, to full. Then recap. This makes the stock heavier BUT extremely steady and damps vibration.4. Bed full length of barrel with Devcon and Pillar the two bolt (buy pillar sleeve on ebay).With 18x Redfield scope, I can consistently get 0.220-0.250" grouping of 5 shots at 50yards, with Eley Target or SK Std+ ammo. The best group thus far is 0.150" !! I've scour local market, because I know I can modify them to be good guns, for resell of CZ455 but can't find any, for a year now. Meanwhile, I've had people approach me to sell Annie. So I disagree with the notion that Annies are hard to find and CZ455 resell is "everywhere". That's just baloney. I don't see the point of paying the equivalence of 2-3 more CZ455s for an Annie, just to get only 0.100" better than what I am getting with CZ455 group-ability. Perhaps that's why people try to sell me their Annies.
Anschutz rifles ares for skilled shooters with top match ammunition. The regular shooter will not see a great difference between an "Annie" and a good but regular, run of the mill 22. The M1913 can put 10 rounds at 50 meters into a one quarter of an inch consistently. Besides, it is a competition rifle, not a hunting rifle. So stay with the CZ, it makes more sense for the average skill level shooting average ammo. I am showing personal bias, but I own two Annies, an M1913 competition and a M1416 sporter/hunting rifle. Both are accurate but for different purposes. The difference? the M1913 Super Match ($3000.00) is a 1/4 inch rifle heavy weight for 3 position shooting and the M1416 is a 1/2 inch rifle light weight ($1200.00) for hunting and sports shooting. The ammunition used is paramount, cheap ammo will give you less than mediocre results in any rifle and good ammo with will the opposite in most rifles but precision rifles will always do light years better and that justifies the cost for the precision user. As the saying goes, "it is not a rifle, it is an Anschutz"
If It About Price Definitely Go For The CZ, But The Action, Accuracy, And Most Of All The Trigger On The Anschutz Is Awesome.
When you are measuring groups down to .001 inch, then you will see the difference in accuracy. For the average joe who isn't doing competition. The CZ is more then plenty.
Totally bone headed and forgot to say that I really enjoyed the review! Glad I found your channel.
mikel dornhecker for me a rifle means hunting so on paper.001 inch means nothing.
Then you likely aren't going to be buying an Anschutz so what was the point of your comment?
You're absolutely right about that! But I will say that my 452 does shoot some real teeny, tiny groups that shock and amaze! :)
You guys are correct. The CZ is "good enough". The Anschutz is for when "good enough"... isn't.
Always on the prowl for an Anschütz 54 Silhouette at a good price that hasn't had the barrel shot out of it. Quite sure the Anschütz trigger puts the stock CZ trigger to shame. But, everyone has been upgrading the CZ triggers with those Yo'Dave Trigger kits. Would be interesting to see what a skilled marksman can do with both given the updated trigger options for the CZ ...
+mark teague agreed!
well done! enjoyed your presentation and review. i went for the trifecta barrel option available from CZ.
+Ray 88 you are gonna love that rifle thanks for watching
My left handed CZ 452 rifle will out shoot most any high end target rifles I've owned or shot. My first 5-shot group with SK target rifle ammo out of the 452 was one hole at 50 yards that measured .093" center to center. This group was witnessed by others.
Its a pity Americans cannot buy the 453 anymore with the 2 stage trigger. I find it helps in accuracy when i go for tight groups
I just ordered a cz 455 varmint. I have a nikon prostaff but looking to upgrade to a vortex but you've turned my attention to the weaver t36 I'll have to check into them. Great vid.
Great video one of the best. but if 9 lb is heavy you should get some weights and start working out. I would like to see the Savage Mark II TR in there as well. I just love the heavy barrels. and the TR stock fits me on the bench or just plane having fun.
Do consider the CZ 452 Lux. From the bench I hit soda cans at 200 meters consistantly
You can continue on this theme......I have a cheaper Savage MKII with bull barrel....I pillar-bedded the gun with lamp-rod, and did my own trigger job to duplicate (improve on ?) the Apache trigger pieces ( down to 1-1.5 lbs pull). Using pre-2018 made Wolf MT and ME ammo, and firing off a bench with a cheap UTG bipod....I'm getting close to 1/2" groups at 50 yds. Like you......I can't very often get all 5 shots to "hold-hands" ...as you say...but often get close. All-up price including the Tasco Varmint 6-24 mil-dot scope ( no longer made) and Burris Signature Z rings....about $350 in 2015 dollars. (Aside.....I've looked at the build-architecture of Annie 64 vs this Savage, and see a remarkable similarity in design between the two . Does anyone have a good knowledge of the design history/background of these 2 rifles?......whether one or the other copied elements of the design?...etc?. I know Savage was previous Canadian Lakefield, but historically speaking can't find much.
The main takeaway message here is the Weaver scope is great for benchrest.
Nice rifles .Lapua ,Eley ,SK ,RW, Wolf should help tighten groups. I know it's not on the shelf local. Have to get them by the brick. So when you find one it likes to eat you can feed it from the same lot number. Midway USA has free shipping on weekends. My Sako p94s Range. Has a diet of Center X but got a brick of SK standard that preform as well for half the price. I got all match ammo then tested. Eley rifle match came in close 3rd. I keep all 3 on hand as the Sako gets fed often.
Happy plinking !
I have them both the Anschutz hands down will out shoot the CZ and is a Better Built gun then the CZ but the CZ is a good gun for the money
A 64 action Anschutz, IMO, isn't better built than a CZ 452/453/455. They may (or may not) have better factory barrels. A 54 action Anschutz is inarguably one of the best rimfire actions in existence but the 64 actions are not nearly as well crafted.
“They may or may not have better factory barrels” dude it’s not even a comparison. Why do you think they use one in the olympics and the other doesn’t?
Don't think the Olympics use stock guns. The world record for most sporting clays was set buy the cz1012 and it is the worst shotgun I have ever owned. Yes I'm a cz fan. I owned both a cz455 and a anschutz, both completely stock and the cz was more accurate when pushing the round out to 150-200 yards. I still own the 455.
I have a anschutz 54 target heavey barrel and a cz 455 th with yo Dave . I can shoot 1 hole for 5'shots with anschutz and cloverleaf the cz both great guns
You can reduce your group size by half if you stop shooting with the stock of the rifle basically floating against your shoulder and start using a rear sandbag under the stock butt. Your technique is the problem, and it is surprising that you're getting the groups the size you are getting.
ashley garrow totally did that almost a year ago it works great thanks for watching
Not many of us sportsmen can afford an expensive rifle like that.
Its worth every penny no doubt.
I own the CZ 455 Varmint in. 22mag and. 17hmr.
I can put a groundhogs eye out at 250yds with very little effort with my .17hmr.
The. 22mag is also extremely accurate. More accurate than most. 22mags.
If you put all of the refining quality in the CZ that is found in the other rifle, it would be extremely difficult to choose the Anschutz rifle.
My guns kill. They don't punch paper.
CZ rimfire rifles feel and shoulder like big game rifles.
The CZ that you show is a field rifle.
The other rifle has a lot of features heading more toward a target rifle.
The CZ brand is a superb product.
They do everything extremely well.
At $456 I have a extremely well made and accurate platform in each rifle.
For a working man, I couldn't have done better.
What a beautiful view at the range
Same problem with my Bolt Action 581s... Cleaned it and lightly oiled it.. problem fixed.
Bolt was smoother and it ejected the fired cases as it should.
Even brand new out of the box new rifles need to be cleaned and oiled before the first shot is fired.
I shot a bunch of different 22 LR ammo to find what my rifle shot the best.
Mini-Mags,40gr RN, Auto Match 40gr RN, and Federal American Eagle, 5 shots, all holes touching.
The 64 action is the entry level action, their target rille action is the 54. A huge difference between the two. Barrels (Lothar Walther) is the same on a 64 and a 54.
I always wondered about that because I can shoot the same with most 22lr rifles. I know some feel better but on target about the same so I always liked the lighter weight Vs. the fanciest rifle.
You put that anschutz in my hands with the right rest set up/ and right match ammo, you would lose everytime with the CZ. Oh, and do a bit of research instead of complaining about how the CZ chambers ammo easier. The Anchutz will have a tighter chamber( match reamed) that seats only certain match rounds because the the rifling engages with the bullet driving band. True accuracy potential wasn't even close to being shown with either of the rifles used.
That was a good review. I agree with your assessment, for the average guy and shooter using stock ammo. The CZ is the way to go. A $400 rifle vs $1,000 rifle with comparable optics, why spend the extra $600. Will the $1,000 rifle have a better resale value of course and as was stated before is a great family heirloom. One thing though, match Grade ammo may reduce the flyers for your tests.
Thank you for a very enlightening comparison. I would prefer the CZ Due to cost and also I'd have a project to work on accurizing it.
Bryan Moore, about only accurizing needed is a Yo- Dave trigger kit the; correct scope, and rail for your type of shooting and the ammo it likes best. The barrel is free floated and the action in my CZ455 is actually a little smoother that my Anschutz64MPR and that is impressive. The 64MPR IS DEFINITELY NOT A RIFLE FOR HUNTING AS it will wear you out it is so darn heavy.
Good honest review. Thumbs up 👍
+ulf lyng thanks for watching!
The Anschutz 64 is nothing compared to the 54 action. I've come across so many dodgy 64mpr that won't group but every anschutz 1710 shoots lights out
The 455 CZ trigger is adjustable. Take the action out of the stock and the adjustment screw is right there, takes less than 5 minutes. My 455 breaks like glass and I did not have to waste money on an aftermarket trigger.
At 100 yards the extra money isn't worth it. However no other rifles other than .22 caliber are more ammo sensitive because of so many ammo choices. If you know what I mean.
+I AM ammo sensitive for real sometimes u get lucky and get one that puts them through the same hole with garbage ammo.
The CZ 455 FS is apparently the most accurate of the CZ 455 line.
Nice and honest review man, the only thing is that to be really fair the CZ going head to head with the anshutz would be the 457 varmint mtr.
Didn't exist when this review was done
Hmmm.... I have never owned or shot either the 455 or the Anshutz. I do own a CZ 452 in .22lr and it is "accurate", very accurate! With the right ammunition and proper shooting technique, that 452 will easily put shots into sub .25 inch at 55 yards and often groups into one hole at that distance. I don't recall what I paid for it, around 400 bucks I believe. I cannot see paying 1200 bucks for a rifle that might out shoot it by a few thousands of an inch, if in fact it can! CZ has their act together when it comes to building high quality firearms at very affordable prices. Personally, I wouldn't trade my CZ 452 for anything else out there for any reason! My CZ shoots extremely small groups, is extremely reliable, is a very handsome rifle and holds its zero.
I like my 452 so much that I purchased a CZ 457 in .17 HMR and am in the process of deciding what scope to put on it! I have every confidence that it to, will be a shooter... Now, about that model 550 in .416 Rigby! :)
The extraction issues are likely related to the tighter match chamber of the Anschutz.
its funny that both the cz and the anschutz are beyond the skill level of the shooter and the quality of the ammunition, which makes this whole discussion pointless.
the cz452 when tuned and matched to ammunition such as the sk rifle match, will shoot sub 0.4moa with a skilled shooter at 50m. all these targets really indicate is the cz firing pin and bolt needed cleaning, and the tightest group over all was shot by the CZ lol.
The Anschutz 64 is the benchmark for target rifles world wide, yet the CZ455 "American" is not even the most accurate rifle in the CZ .22lr range and is designed specifically as a multi caliber "light"field rifle for scope use.
Ive been testing tactical scopes for an optics company for a few years now and the CZ452 lux is sub 0.4moa at 50m if matched to quality ammunition. I have not had a single flier over 0.7moa in over 1000 rounds. The CZ452 lux is meant as a field rifle, but can be found in long distance .22 range shooting, 50m target shooting, and is a legend within the hunting community.
looking at the targets closely, there are suspicious groupings for both rifles which indicate neither is well tuned.
firing pin spring on the CZ is stringing, which indicates it is possibly fouled, or needs the spring replaced with a heavier spring for the ammunition being used.
The Anschutz has a different problem. you can see the multiple grouping points on at least 3 of the targets, which could indicate harmonic variations. This could be due to an obstruction making contact with the barrel or incorrect tensions etc.
obviously, another reason could simply be poor shooting.
when you buy any rifle, it is likely to need tuning, ammunition matching, and fine adjustment to obtain a high level of accuracy. even after matching ammunition, changing out the trigger, firing pin spring and replacing the stock, the cz455 will still be cheaper than the Anschutz, and will probably rival a "stock" Anschutz 64 MPR. If you were going to go into the Olympics however, you would be unlikely to use a CZ455 lol.
pepperoni prepper, I have both the Cz455 and the Anschutz64M PR with the weaver 36 power target scope ie( same exact set up)and the two are very accurate at 200yds. BR f- Class, using Eley Match ammo. However when it comes to the Olympics ie the South Korean Winter Olympics Anschutz rifles in every competition both women and men placed Gold,Silver and Bronze medals. There was not another make of rifle that placed period. Of course those are special custom rifles. Google it.
I shoot 200yds with the exact 64mpr set up and have the CZ455 with the Weaver T36 used in both rifles as well as a 6x18 scope in the CZ455
I have tested atleast 12 different hi-end .22 target ammo in both rifles.
The Anschutz is very specific on certain kinds of ammo at 200 yds. and the CZ not so.
I would agree with everything in this video except the 64M PR is now $1350 + tax and also the magazine takes two hands to release it 👎🏻etc...
If I had to do it again I think I would Buy a CZ in the trainer version with a H B & longer barrel than 20.5” and if it shoots any better than my CZ455 it woukd easily be more accurate than the ANSCHUTZ 64M PR.
The best ammo for my Anschutz M PR is ELEY MATCH (B+) so far 🤔 and I have tried Lapua CENTER X, ((C), wALL the Federal Match brands ie(FED. TARGET (C), FED MATCH (C+), HV MATCH (C+), FED. HV MATCH (B),
RWS Rifle Match (C-), RWS SPECIAL MATCH (C), FED. Ultra Match (C+),
Eley Contact (C+), ELEY TARGET (C-), ELEY EDGE (B), ELEY TENEX (B), CCI STD.(C-), etc...
This was with the M PR64,
at 200yds. No wind 74 degrees
The best ammo with the CZ455 at 100yds. with a 6X18 cheap scope was RWS LONG RANGE MATCH (A)👍 $8.50/ box from Champions choice.
My favorite RIFLE is turning back too the CZ455 🙄. The action is smoother than the ANSCHUTZ 64, 😏 is much lighter and so far is almost tied for accuracy 🤫. my only complaint with CZ 455 is the stock is too short and primarily made for a youth or girl which I don’t understand why it is so short 🥴
@pepperoni prepper... I hate to upset all of your expertise... but the Anschutz 54 is the 'benchmark' for Target Rifles
You do realize you keep referring to it as having a Hardwood stock vs a Walnut stock? A walnut stock is a hardwood stock a hardwood stock means you just don't know what hardwood was used.
He means a Beech hardwood stock as opposed to Walnut hardwood stock.
I planned to make this same comment. Walnut is hardwood.
I have the cz 455 with factory set trigger i've adjusted it down to 1.2 lbs. it's a tack driver especially for a $400 rifle
$400 cz vs $1200+ anschutz ....when the rubber hits the road on paper they were pretty close considering the price difference
thanks, great informative video, just a acquired my second cz rimfire and love those rifles.
+matthew rowland I know man love the czs, hard to compete against the annie but it held its own
Anschutz V cz ,not a fair fight mate. I shot small bore target for years and hunted with a BRNO mod 2 also , both great at what they were made for ,but different things mate .PS I am nice ,so i won't comment on your groups.
3 15.9 is 3 pounds 15.9 ounces. Or... 1/10 of an ounce less than 4 pounds.
What did Anschutz say when you called them about your extraction trouble? I suspect it was driver error. More likely ammo related? Same Ammo in the CZ? Follow up video please. 👍🇺🇲😷. Excellent slow, focused, well lit close up details
the model 17 Anschutz's have the match 54 action so, from my experience, are even more accurate, you gets what you pay for ......
CZ's cannot be beat for the price, and will hold their own against the best.
BS
No really.
When CZ starts winning world championships and olympic competitions I will agree.
That sounds a bit....stupid Doyle. Is the video about a 6000.00 Oly grade Anschutz? It's about a 450.00 .22 rimfire.
Why are people so fkn dumb. Olympics?
I think I struck a nerve. I own a CZ centerfire rifle. Love it and its price point. I assume your statement that a CZ will shoot with the best means that it will hold its own in competition. Such as American Rimfire Assoc. benchrest shoots,, mini palma events and metallic shilouette matches? They don,t. At the last mini palma event I attened Anschutz took the top three spots. Anschutz 1710 and 1712 with their 54 actions and triggers are the most accurate and reliable off the shelf 22 rimfire rifle made. What else would explain their popularity and the $2,200 price?
I like both but if i could afford it i would never turn down an anshutz
I have a cz 455 combo in 17 home and 22lr. At 50 yards it's definitely a one hole shooter and it's not a bull barrel
eehh, cz is adjustable, put a yo daves (adjustable) trigger kit in there and a fly fart would set it off
I removed the trigger spring, removed two coils, polished the ends and reinstalled. Instant 2lb pull. Matches all my other rifles now and only cost me "time".... ;)
CZ should put their set trigger on the 455. They used to have it standard on some of their 22s.He didn't state what ammo he was using, or the distance he was shooting at (was it 50 or 100 yds?) If that was 100 yds that's nothing to be ashamed of off a bag with average target ammo (not Eley Black or Red Box).
Great review! Thanks for the info.
The extraction issues are probably from the tight match chamber they use, possibly combined with whatever ammo you were using, I didn't hear what was used.
Loving the cap badge, very cool :)
You should be using front and rear bags for the tests. My Anschutz 1727 17hmr will easily out group any of my other rifles at 100 yards. (On a calm day)
Great review, thank you.
anschutz holds more records than any other manufacturer in the world.
Glad I have my 453 Varmint ;-)
Good video, beautiful range
Great video. Are you sure that the cz's trigger isn't adjustable? On the CZ website it says that the trigger is adjustable on all the 455 versions.
Again great video thanks for sharing the info!
There is a nut on the trigger spring to adjust tension but I'm not sure about adjusting the weight lighter than 3-4 lbs with a stock trigger spring. There's the YoDave kit that includes shim tubes to adjust sear engagement so you can take it all the creep which would be more important to me than just lightening the trigger.
I have an Anschutz model 54 and the CZ 455 you can't compare the CZ with Anschutz when you're shooting Eley .22 or RWS R50
To compare both rifles you should use the same kind of scope.
1k- 1200. Back in the good old pre-rona days. 455 America too- discontinued & marked up for resale
I think you measured the cz at 3 lbs 15oz, not 3.15 lbs. Quite a difference,almost 4 lbs. Thanks
To be clear, the difference isn’t 4 lbs.
Do you shoot at the public range down near Punchbowl? I used the pistol range there quite often years ago. Nice video and explanation of CZ vs Anschutz. I have a 455 with 22 WMR and LR barrels.
Best review Ive seen in a long ass time.
Comparing these two rifle models is like comparing a helicopter to a fighter jet,...yup they both fly, but!!!!!!
One is Turkish walnut and the other is 'hardwood????? No shit there Batman!
They're both wonderful .22 rifles,...I would enjoy them both, for what they were designed for.
Good job. Thank you.
You should have shot a CZ Varmint with a heavy barrel. Or even an Ultra Lux with the 28'' barrel. Apples to apples. I'll put my CZ 453 with its set trigger up against that Anchutz anyday.
+Simone Stella Simone fer sure, but the idea was to take the bottom and the top and see what the outcome would be, looks like the CZ even at its entry level did a great job, thanks for the views!
funny u mention that I juuuust picked one up
CZ almost as accurate as the Anschutz, think you need to put your spectacles on, it might improve your shooting also
+Alan Lees CZ's beat Anshcutz in .22 match shooting regularly.
+Matthew Hunter not worth arguing with you Mattew, you probably think Winchester T22 ammo is as good as Eley aso
Alan Lees No one is arguing. I'm basing my opinion on actual real world experience. I have seen the outcomes of many matches where both were used and CZ's have often come out on top, both used by very capable shooters. Anscuhtz are not the final word.
Anschutz with the Match 54 action i.e. 1710 & 1712 are the final word in accuracy for .22 LR sporters. If you believe otherwise, you've never tried one.
old vid but wow the view on that range!!
Whether it's casual or serious, the accuracy potential of a rifle does not change or get detracted. To even say they both shoot the same soley based on your ability of accuracy testing, of which you pointed out is not that great, is not a justifiable statement. You also pointed out the CZ can be upgraded to match the Anshutz, that's a broad statement. Theres differnet Anschutz actions, the economy 64 like that your comparing here and theres the true match grade 54. So to clarify, the CZ can shoot with the Anschutz 64 after upgrading to a better than factory Lilja barrel, a bedded stock, and trigger work. But now that the CZ has run you up to the cost of an Anschutz 64 and the Anschutz still has a better trigger. But even after building up that CZ it won't match the Anschutz 54.
I have a CZ455 and get 0.5" groups at 100 yds consistently with bulk federal from SGammo. It is a fantastic 22. Plus with the ability to switch out barrels in less than 5 minutes you can have a 17HMR and 22Mag for $250.
Sorry, but that is nonsense.
No you don't.
I bought a CZ455 ultra lux and modified trigger spring and trigger pulled 1.5 lbs.
Good for you.
Hi, nice review, but i keep wondering about something : why don't you shoot using the bipods ?
It reminds me yesterday : my shooting monitor told me that a benchrest system is much more accurate than a bipod (even if mine is an Atlas V8)
Thanks for your answer, i feel concerned as i own a 64 MPR...