I got the 452-Ultra-Lux 28.6" ~15 years ago and its a piece of art! The wood, the bluing, the bolt-fit. It was expensive at ~$400 back then but it was so beautiful I bought it. Quiet, accurate, beautiful!
Thanks for the excellent review ! I'm in love with my two CZ 452's. I never knew the true differences between the family members. You did a perfect job of explaining it. Again thanks.
The 452 American was one of the best rimfire sporters ever made, exceptionally accurate, and good adjustable trigger, which could be made lighter by changing to a lighter spring. The 455's and 457's are a cheapened product riding the success of the 452's. IMO
I THINK 455 IS EXACTLY THE SAME, EXCEPT YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF REPLACING THE BARREL YOURSELF, 457 IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RIFLE. I HAVE ALL THREE AND ALL GREAT SHOOTERS, THE 452 IS JUST A CLASSIC RIFLE NOW. I HAVE MODELS FROM THE EARLY 50'S AS WELL, ALL GREAT SHOOTERS DO TO CZ'S HAMMER FORGED MATCH BARRELS.
This is the truth, the 455 & 457 have way less machining processes and as such are much cheaper to make. But they're all quality guns, I just know having looked over all of them the 452 was made in an era when cost wasn't as much of a consideration.
Spot on friend, my 452 American 22lr is deadly. I cut the barrel to 15" and put a Boyds spikecamp stock on it,and a upgrade trigger guard. Absolute CRACKER gun
If you buy the 457 and want to have all three calibers (22lr, 22wmr, and 17hmr) I would suggest buying the rifle and additional barrels as a set. This way headspace is checked at the factory. I bought the rifle and barrels at different times and ran into the cartridge headspace issues. 'Go' and 'No-Go' gauges run about $35 each. I used Plasti-gage red and got lucky on the clearances. If any barrel machining would have been necessary, it wouldn't have been cheap. Just a thought.
How difficult was it to overcome the head space issue. Not being a Gunsmith I just thought if they were cz barrels they would work. Also how can you order all three calibers at once. Is this something CZ offers ? Sorry for the lame questions but after 20 years with my 452 lux I’ve decided to purchase a 457 American as was hoping to eventually purchase barrels in all calibers.
Good Review! Its hard to see the details on the rifles well. I would recommend putting a white sheet on the table for better contrast and these rifles deserve brighter better lighting!! I hope this helps keep up the good work.
Great video! I learned a lot. I like the idea of being able to change calibers if desired. Two for one. Kinda I appreciate you showing the difference between models. Not to many others Doing that. Thank you very much. I may ask my local gun dealer to order me a 457.
The Excellent CZ 452 had the barrel threaded into the action permanently. The CZ 455 went to a slip fit barrel clamp so different calibers can be used in the same rifle. Which is something popular in Europe, but less known in the US. I haven't found the safety difficult to get used to on the older guns.
Looking to get a 457 as my first rifle, torn between the Training and Lux model, is it worth getting my LGS to order a Lux or should I spring for the trainer which has a slight scratch near its front sight?
Your 3 series Cross-section comparison is very informative .These 457's have all of the improvements to bring them into the Anschutz grade of rifles. I myself would say that the pillar bedding , the reduced bolt travel , adjustable trigger, magazine finger well and even the cocking indicator pin would be more of an improvement to note than the change of safety direction . I do like your accuracy commentary and rate of speaking , keep 'em coming ... Skwerl.
It’s always been a regret that I never picked up a 453 (Single set trigger model) or 452 Ultra Lux. I’ve got a 452 Trainer and while it’s not the shiniest rifle, it shoots like a laser. I can’t say a 455 or 457 would shoot worse but none of the “improvements” CZ made (save for the adjustable trigger) were for any purpose other than cost/ease of manufacturing. I don’t remember anyone clambering for a swappable barrels on the 452 and that feature necessitates a “one bolt for all” system that has to sacrifice some precision for the ability to accommodate different cartridge sizes.
All that business on the safety operation is mostly just a lame gripe; it becomes second nature very shortly. However, the 457 is the current production model. I'll be following it on RFC regarding accuracy. All of them, 452, 453, 455, 457 are beautifully made firearms. Great video. Thanks for posting it.
Both my wife and I are new shooters but have a warm spot in our hearts for the CZ series. Looking for a 452 for my wife's 68th birthday in a few months, so I've still got time to find one(!) Thank you for this video pointing out some of the differences between all these great model firearms!
@@mortrob8371 I grew up in Newark the first 23 years of my life; it was a great place to be a kid in the 1950's and early '60's! Do you use your 452 for target-only shooting? What ammo do you use? Do you have a scope on yours?
Great vid! Thank you. I have a 455 varmint 22LR and can routinely shoot groups under .33" at 50 yards with Browning BPR 40 grain. I've seen 452 and 455 groups on Rimfire Central that put me to shame. The two lug vs one lug controversy has been around for a while, but I'm unable to see any accuracy differences based on posted groups on Rimfire Central.
Picked mine up and fired it last night straight out of the box, accuracy nearly as good as my Anschutz Match 54. Will see how it does when I get the trigger adjusted.
je possède une CZ 452 depuis 10 ans avec lunette tasco c'est une super arme petit coucou de le france ,He's had a CZ 452 for 10 years with a Tasco scope, it's a great weapon, hello from France
I have the 452 in 22lr and 17 hm2 and they both will shoot awesome if I do my part. Also the 455 in 22lr with the 17 hmr fluted barrel, the 22 groups better than the 17. Both 22's love eley club fyi. If your cz doesn't shoot well clean it really well and make sure the action screws are tight 35 to 40 lbs.
I just wish they would offer southpaws more than just the American 452... Oh, and those are going away... So I guess I get to choose between Savage, browning t-bolt, and Anne...
The CZ 452 have lengthwise grooves under the action to align the magazine well. Those grooves makes the bottom of the action thinner, weakening it especially under the barrel threading portion. Is the CZ 457 free of those bottom grooves?
Great informative video thanks Of to get my CZ 17HMR in about 2-3 weeks. Any particular model recommended? I am looking at a moderator too thinking wildcat predator 12 any thoughts? Thanks
Thanks for the vid, could you possibly make a small addition comparing the bolts on these guns? I've read that CZ was able to make the firing pin on 457 much more lighter, which according to them increases accuracy. What's your opinion on this statement? Thanks
Out of those 3 cz models, what’s your favorite?? It seems like anyone that has a cz 452 loves their rifle, def more characters but the trigger is bad!?
my cz 452 in 22 wmr shoot very accurate and better than cz 455. I have cz 457 both in 22 lr and 22 wmr but not yet get to the range so I can not give comments on these two. but cz 457 have longer barrel which is nicer for longer range.
@@hunterBigE i think maybe it can go below 1 pound bec as you have said reducing the contact of the sear will lighten the pull, i have tried it already with my steyr lp10 airpistol and it works from 500 grams to about 250 grams depending on how far i can a reduce the sear engagement.
You need more light and put camera closer 😉 Please use a lighter color table and back ground wall too dark, along with your dark shirt is not helpfulGood Video
What kind of accuracy did you get out of the 457? I just purchased the same one in .17hmr as well but haven’t had the chance to shoot it yet and was wondering what kind of accuracy I might get out of it.
Cz 457 is a copy of Russian Toz 78, thats why it looks like turned mosin instead Mauser. They did some adjustment that absent from Toz 78 like mauser style bolt release, instead mosin style bolt release and much better trigger. I still like Toz 78 mosin style looks.
The CZ 457 line are just copies of the less expensive equally accurate better-triggered design masterpieces of Savage's Mark II heavy barrelled series. There is simply no proof of anything otherwise. The design theory behind the CZ ProVarmint supressor is the SAvage Mark II FVSR. The only plus for the CZs are eyewash, for which you pay a lot.
the American market is ruining quality firearms. CZ were renowned for being a quality firearm and now they incorporate plastic, aluminium and a bastardised safety. they aren't a CZ anymore. Czed 452 and 453 are still the go to rifle. Also you can increase the value of the rifle by milling off the 'kansas city crap'
I know what you mean. Other than the safety, were the 452 rifles better made in terms of material or did they also use plastic etc. for some components? The only CZ rifle I’ve had experience with was my dads 452 back when I was a kid.
This comparison was not specific to the 452 trigger adjustment the 455 trigger adjustment. Only the 457 trigger adjustment. Nor did he discuss the 453 single set trigger. He didn't compare. He only discussed the 457 trigger and/ or glass bedding. Nothing regarding the barrels. He didnt go onto detail on 452 limited edition kil or farewell editions. Which isnt as important but I felt like this was more of a 457 review.
God We Trust I understand, just wanting to get input for when I go shopping for my next 22. The 452 is still widely available on the second hand market, but I’m interesting in the longer barrels in the 455 and 457. If the 452 is built from higher quality parts then I will probably pick that. I’m not too overly fussed in the slight differences in accuracy, I just want a rifle that will last.
NOTHING replaced the 452. The legend will live forever.
I got the 452-Ultra-Lux 28.6" ~15 years ago and its a piece of art! The wood, the bluing, the bolt-fit. It was expensive at ~$400 back then but it was so beautiful I bought it. Quiet, accurate, beautiful!
He's had a CZ 452 for 10 years with a Tasco scope, it's a great weapon, hello from France
Great explanation between the 3 452 / 455 / 457 rifles ! What it all means too. Awesome !
Thanks for the excellent review ! I'm in love with my two CZ 452's. I never knew the true differences between the family members. You did a perfect job of explaining it. Again thanks.
He's had a CZ 452 for 10 years with a Tasco scope, it's a great weapon, hello from France
@@alainberthaux2140 I have 4 CZ 452's now. My favorite is a Mannlicher stocked 452 in 22 WMR :-)
The 452 American was one of the best rimfire sporters ever made, exceptionally accurate, and good adjustable trigger, which could be made lighter by changing to a lighter spring. The 455's and 457's are a cheapened product riding the success of the 452's. IMO
This is so true
I THINK 455 IS EXACTLY THE SAME, EXCEPT YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF REPLACING THE BARREL YOURSELF, 457 IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RIFLE. I HAVE ALL THREE AND ALL GREAT SHOOTERS, THE 452 IS JUST A CLASSIC RIFLE NOW. I HAVE MODELS FROM THE EARLY 50'S AS WELL, ALL GREAT SHOOTERS DO TO CZ'S HAMMER FORGED MATCH BARRELS.
@@Plainsimple67 I've had several 452's, and also have a 1958 model year #4 target rifle. I prefer barrels that thread in over others.
This is the truth, the 455 & 457 have way less machining processes and as such are much cheaper to make. But they're all quality guns, I just know having looked over all of them the 452 was made in an era when cost wasn't as much of a consideration.
Spot on friend, my 452 American 22lr is deadly.
I cut the barrel to 15" and put a Boyds spikecamp stock on it,and a upgrade trigger guard.
Absolute CRACKER gun
Awesome comparison ! I've waited for this for a while. Nicely done.
my cz-452 been with me since 2008, ill have it till i die.
beautiful rifle
If you buy the 457 and want to have all three calibers (22lr, 22wmr, and 17hmr) I would suggest buying the rifle and additional barrels as a set. This way headspace is checked at the factory. I bought the rifle and barrels at different times and ran into the cartridge headspace issues. 'Go' and 'No-Go' gauges run about $35 each. I used Plasti-gage red and got lucky on the clearances. If any barrel machining would have been necessary, it wouldn't have been cheap. Just a thought.
How difficult was it to overcome the head space issue. Not being a Gunsmith I just thought if they were cz barrels they would work. Also how can you order all three calibers at once. Is this something CZ offers ? Sorry for the lame questions but after 20 years with my 452 lux I’ve decided to purchase a 457 American as was hoping to eventually purchase barrels in all calibers.
I don't know if you know this or not, but this was a really informative video. Greatly appreciated
Good Review! Its hard to see the details on the rifles well. I would recommend putting a white sheet on the table for better contrast and these rifles deserve brighter better lighting!! I hope this helps keep up the good work.
Thanks for the tip!
Who ever complained about the 452 and 455 are just nick picking lol
I have a 455 Varmint. I love CZ. Very well made guns.
I love my 455 .22lr and 527 7.62x39. Both VERY accurate.
What a great comprehensive review. Thanks for making this.
Had to comment on such a great review . Knowledgeable,Good info and down to earth presentation
Great video! I learned a lot.
I like the idea of being able to change calibers if desired. Two for one. Kinda
I appreciate you showing the difference between models. Not to many others Doing that. Thank you very much.
I may ask my local gun dealer to order me a 457.
Thanks for the review, I wasn’t aware of these features when I bought my 457 just days ago.
The Excellent CZ 452 had the barrel threaded into the action permanently. The CZ 455 went to a slip fit barrel clamp so different calibers can be used in the same rifle. Which is something popular in Europe, but less known in the US. I haven't found the safety difficult to get used to on the older guns.
Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Thanks for Watching!!
Just put first few rounds thru my CZ 457 LUX. Great little rifle and pretty accurate right out of the box! Fun and inexpensive to shoot.
Looking to get a 457 as my first rifle, torn between the Training and Lux model, is it worth getting my LGS to order a Lux or should I spring for the trainer which has a slight scratch near its front sight?
Your 3 series Cross-section comparison is very informative .These 457's have all of the improvements to bring them into the Anschutz grade of rifles. I myself would say that the pillar bedding , the reduced bolt travel , adjustable trigger, magazine finger well and even the cocking indicator pin would be more of an improvement to note than the change of safety direction . I do like your accuracy commentary and rate of speaking , keep 'em coming ... Skwerl.
I have a 457 Varmint and it is a tack driver
It’s always been a regret that I never picked up a 453 (Single set trigger model) or 452 Ultra Lux.
I’ve got a 452 Trainer and while it’s not the shiniest rifle, it shoots like a laser.
I can’t say a 455 or 457 would shoot worse but none of the “improvements” CZ made (save for the adjustable trigger) were for any purpose other than cost/ease of manufacturing.
I don’t remember anyone clambering for a swappable barrels on the 452 and that feature necessitates a “one bolt for all” system that has to sacrifice some precision for the ability to accommodate different cartridge sizes.
I have the Norinco TU-KKW trainer, and yes it shoots like a laser too.
Excellent. Makes it clear how to take it down and how to adjust trigger.
Great video loads of clear info thanks from 🇬🇧
All that business on the safety operation is mostly just a lame gripe; it becomes second nature very shortly. However, the 457 is the current production model. I'll be following it on RFC regarding accuracy. All of them, 452, 453, 455, 457 are beautifully made firearms. Great video. Thanks for posting it.
the 452 is the only one with a thread barrel which also increases its accuracy over the 455 or the 457
How does a threaded barrel increase accuracy...
the barrel is more center to action and a lot tighter fit to the action better control of head space too
wow this new safety is realy quite... I'm glad I have the 455!
Bought the CZ 457 in 17 HMR American CZ really up their game what a nice rifle
Both my wife and I are new shooters but have a warm spot in our hearts for the CZ series. Looking for a 452 for my wife's 68th birthday in a few months, so I've still got time to find one(!) Thank you for this video pointing out some of the differences between all these great model firearms!
There is a CZ 452 available on Utah Gun Exchange.
@@mortrob8371 I grew up in Newark the first 23 years of my life; it was a great place to be a kid in the 1950's and early '60's! Do you use your 452 for target-only shooting? What ammo do you use? Do you have a scope on yours?
@@mortrob8371 So no scope, just using the iron sights? TIA!
Great vid! Thank you. I have a 455 varmint 22LR and can routinely shoot groups under .33" at 50 yards with Browning BPR 40 grain. I've seen 452 and 455 groups on Rimfire Central that put me to shame. The two lug vs one lug controversy has been around for a while, but I'm unable to see any accuracy differences based on posted groups on Rimfire Central.
I just ordered my CZ 457 MTR 22LR yesterday! Should have it in the next week or so. Very Excited for this updated design.
Picked mine up and fired it last night straight out of the box, accuracy nearly as good as my Anschutz Match 54. Will see how it does when I get the trigger adjusted.
What’s your favorite 22 lr from cz ?? I can’t decide on cz 455 trainer or cz 457!
Great review and straight to the point. Thanks!
Thanks, great overview of some nice rifles 🤙🏼
awesome review! thanks
je possède une CZ 452 depuis 10 ans avec lunette tasco c'est une super arme petit coucou de le france ,He's had a CZ 452 for 10 years with a Tasco scope, it's a great weapon, hello from France
I have the 452 in 22lr and 17 hm2 and they both will shoot awesome if I do my part. Also the 455 in 22lr with the 17 hmr fluted barrel, the 22 groups better than the 17. Both 22's love eley club fyi. If your cz doesn't shoot well clean it really well and make sure the action screws are tight 35 to 40 lbs.
CZ made a believer out of me.. I’ll tell you that.
Good video of this CZ line of rifles especially the rimfire and at what factory preset was the trigger poundage set on if you don't mind me asking ?
Wow.. What Great Information on these firearms..
Nice presentation. Complaints about the safety make me laugh. There seems to always be something for someone to complain about lol.
Great review !!! Thanks 👍👍👍
I like that at 6:45 even though you know it's clear for the vid, you cycle and check clear. Good gun etiquette
So which one is better? Cz 457 or 455
Sweeeet Comparison 👍
I just wish they would offer southpaws more than just the American 452... Oh, and those are going away... So I guess I get to choose between Savage, browning t-bolt, and Anne...
Thank you so much for that video.
Very nice presentation
The CZ 452 have lengthwise grooves under the action to align the magazine well.
Those grooves makes the bottom of the action thinner, weakening it especially
under the barrel threading portion. Is the CZ 457 free of those bottom grooves?
Great review but the lighting could be much better around the action especially the trigger.
Great informative video thanks
Of to get my CZ 17HMR in about 2-3 weeks.
Any particular model recommended?
I am looking at a moderator too thinking wildcat predator 12 any thoughts?
Thanks
Good video 👍🏼I love my 457!
my lgs has had the mtr in stock for a few weeks. the match chamber makes it tempting to get but I was wanting to hold out for the trainer.
Love my 452 trainer, but have a hard time getting the scope low enough
thanks
Thanks for the video..
Thanks for watching!
Great vid bud, a bit dark with lighting .cheers
great video. thank you
Thanks for the vid, could you possibly make a small addition comparing the bolts on these guns? I've read that CZ was able to make the firing pin on 457 much more lighter, which according to them increases accuracy. What's your opinion on this statement? Thanks
We will add that to the list for the shooting video!
What did you do to your rifle stocks to make them look glossy?
Which the Best ?
457 or 455 or tikka t1x
Merci
get all
Cheers Mate!
The content is excellent - you got a like from me.
Thanks! Appreciate the feed back!
Excellent!
Thanks!
455 and 457 are upgrades to the bottom line of CZ.
Just bought a CZ 452 Lux
👍👍
Out of those 3 cz models, what’s your favorite?? It seems like anyone that has a cz 452 loves their rifle, def more characters but the trigger is bad!?
My 452 triggers are lovely
Great Vid buddy.
Thank u for this detailed vid
No problem! Thanks for watching!
my cz 452 in 22 wmr shoot very accurate and better than cz 455. I have cz 457 both in 22 lr and 22 wmr but not yet get to the range so I can not give comments on these two. but cz 457 have longer barrel which is nicer for longer range.
thx nice video
Was the magazine well plastic on the 452?
Mine is
Please tell us CZ threaded the bolt knob on so that ridiculous knub can be replaced?
I’ll have to check I will get back with you!
They did not
I wait MTR, sorry i'm french , but vert interesseting. Thanks you , i will change knob bolt threaded M6x100
Nice video ps You need more light as the video is too dark
What do you torque the stock bolts?
có đường nào bán về việc nam một cây cz452 được No
is it possible to adjust the trigger below 1 pound weight?
I don’t think so but I’m not 100% sure we will look into it and follow up in the shooting video
@@hunterBigE i think maybe it can go below 1 pound bec as you have said reducing the contact of the sear will lighten the pull, i have tried it already with my steyr lp10 airpistol and it works from 500 grams to about 250 grams depending on how far i can a reduce the sear engagement.
Only one way to find out! I just wonder if it will slam fire tho when you close the bolt if it is that low
where are the cz 457,452,455 17mach2 rimfire rifle.
You need more light and put camera closer 😉 Please use a lighter color table and back ground wall too dark, along with your dark shirt is not helpfulGood Video
What kind of accuracy did you get out of the 457? I just purchased the same one in .17hmr as well but haven’t had the chance to shoot it yet and was wondering what kind of accuracy I might get out of it.
Weather is refusing to give in for us too... we will upload a shooting video ASAP !
What torque setting are you using on the action screws?
25ish front 20 ish rear
Is the magwell plastic on the 457?
Yes
Do you have any info on the release date to the public
It has been release, this one was purchased
@@hunterBigE where can't find them around here.
Probably have to order one online and have shipped to local FFL
@@hunterBigE can u tell me who has them in stock?
Look at gunbroker.com
I think a lot of people want to know if any true the 452 more accurate than the new 455 as claimed by a Youtuer God family and gun channel.
Thats not how you measure barrel length
I think most people were clear that was a Guesstimation ! 😂👍
How many locking lugs on the bolt of the 455
The 455 just has one.
Thank that tells me to buy a 452
We filmed the shooting portion last night I should have it up soon! Next couple days hopefully
Shooting the 457
@@outboardfun3353 buy the 455 and thank me later
Gửi về Việt Nam một cây cz452 được không anh
Cz 457 is a copy of Russian Toz 78, thats why it looks like turned mosin instead Mauser. They did some adjustment that absent from Toz 78 like mauser style bolt release, instead mosin style bolt release and much better trigger. I still like Toz 78 mosin style looks.
The CZ 457 line are just copies of the less expensive equally accurate better-triggered design masterpieces of Savage's Mark II heavy barrelled series. There is simply no proof of anything otherwise. The design theory behind the CZ ProVarmint supressor is the SAvage Mark II FVSR. The only plus for the CZs are eyewash, for which you pay a lot.
Verygood verygood verygood
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You also need real microphone - it's all echo
Bravo pour les percussions à sec, !!!!! il aurait au moins dû mettre une douille pour protéger le percuteur ..
The serial number engraving on the bolt of the 457 is horrific. Very poorly done
the American market is ruining quality firearms. CZ were renowned for being a quality firearm and now they incorporate plastic, aluminium and a bastardised safety. they aren't a CZ anymore. Czed 452 and 453 are still the go to rifle. Also you can increase the value of the rifle by milling off the 'kansas city crap'
I know what you mean. Other than the safety, were the 452 rifles better made in terms of material or did they also use plastic etc. for some components? The only CZ rifle I’ve had experience with was my dads 452 back when I was a kid.
This comparison was not specific to the 452 trigger adjustment the 455 trigger adjustment. Only the 457 trigger adjustment. Nor did he discuss the 453 single set trigger. He didn't compare. He only discussed the 457 trigger and/ or glass bedding. Nothing regarding the barrels. He didnt go onto detail on 452 limited edition kil or farewell editions. Which isnt as important but I felt like this was more of a 457 review.
God We Trust I understand, just wanting to get input for when I go shopping for my next 22. The 452 is still widely available on the second hand market, but I’m interesting in the longer barrels in the 455 and 457. If the 452 is built from higher quality parts then I will probably pick that. I’m not too overly fussed in the slight differences in accuracy, I just want a rifle that will last.
Scoped rifles are great until you slip on some rocks and break it.
The volume sucks.
Much
CZ455 is a beautiful gun. But worthless
worst accuracy gun on this earth.
I toss mine in the garbage.