It's also a great interpretation of the thought bubbles from the comics. The Raimi movies, and Spectacular especially did a similar thing with Peter talking to himself every episode. Seeing what goes on in Peter's head is a great way for us to get attached to him as he goes on a journey through these movies.
And it's something Peter did with Uncle Ben, at least I remember reading an entire issue (Peter Parker: Spider-man #20) that was just Peter speaking to Ben's grave about what's been going on since the last time he was there (at the time, MJ dissapeared and Peter remembers that laugh it's the best medicine).
having Peter to be in complete darkness not knowing how he isn’t dead , turning out his in the black suit is so sick I loved it, also if tombstone is in power and in Hawkeye we see Fisk at a lower level I think having Fisk be snapped is what happened , it could lead to an amazing daredevil/Spider-Man movie where they both have to stop a crime war between tombstone and Fisk
@@theobuniel9643 okay then maybe all his people that he runs his business with snapped so his entire empire crumbled , or maybe daredevil snapped so he left prison and he spent the 5 years trying to build his empire but tombstone his also rising so they have to fight for control
I think it’d be cool if the canonize the daredevil show so that after Fisk gets wrecked, he tried to take a back seat and not be a huge name so he could spend time with Vanessa. But, maybe she was dusted during the snap and for the first year or 2 he tried to travel to clear his mind and get over her, then he goes back to New York and gets back into crime. His hiatus could have contributed to the rise of Tombstone and now they’re constantly at odds
Yoooo this is a really cool idea… I’m so interested in what they are going to do with these next movies. Jesus’ endless love to you my friend take great care in these tough times and know you are not alone
That black suit moment was perfect. If there's any part of this that I would absolutely want in the actual movie. Is how the black suit awakens. The only thing I would change is the ending. Having it be Tombstone and having it play like that is too much Spectacular Spider-Man source material. I personally would make it Fisk. Fisk is just starting to rise up again and is around the same place and same time as Matt was in NWH. This way we also slowly build ourselves up to a Spidey & Daredevil meet up.
I feel like it's going to depend on when this movie takes place in the mcu, for it to be fisk because in hawkeye I don't personally think he was even close to what this story would request of him "His stance in power" granted I still think it could work.
Yeah, I was kinda shocked that he used Tombstone instead of Kingpin. Like, Vincent D'Onofrio is right there. And he REALLY wants to fight Tom Holland's Spidey. Use him.
Having Fisk instead of Tombstone would not only be awesome but could work as build up for a future crossover between Spider man and Daredevil, since they would have a common enemy. The crossover could even take some inspiration from the Ultimate Marvel Knights arc (only with a reverse of roles) and have Peter failed attempts to arrest Kingpin causing the symbiote to increse his rage and push him into trying to kill the villain, resulting in a fight with Daredevil, trying to prevent Spider man from crossing the line. This could even lead to a moment later where the two bond with Matt revealing his identity and telling Peter that he also once went to a dark place and almost killed Fisk but was able to overcome his desire, choosing the law rather than his anger, inspiring Spider man to get rid of the symbiote (representing Peter's inner darkness)
It could be that the reason it was tombstone is cause he was recovering after getting shot in hawkeye. But in another movie you see kingpin and tombstone meet up again and kingpin puts tombstone in his place and shows him he's in charge.
When Homecoming came out, I thought the titles would be more school/teen related like the upcoming Spider-Man: Freshman Year. FFH would have been "Spider-Man: Summer Break" and NWH would be "Spider-Man: Graduation"
I'll throw you a Nicolas Cage as Kraven. Imagine the performances he gave in movies like Mandy or Color Out of Space, and mix that with the heart of what makes Kraven work. An aging perfectionist bored and trying to find challenges everywhere. I reckon he'd pull him off quite well. Give some of that zany 90s Cage energy mixed with the grit of Mandy.
"Peter grabs onto his horn to steer him to the local dump" "No, not Staten Island" I'm convinced after that line that you are or were a New Yorker. Takes one to know one.
@@johnv1109 As a Queens resident who commutes to Manhattan frequently, I'd say it's a hellscape covered with fancy lights. It's an overrated borough and has everything I hate about this city dialed to 11.
@@notane.real1 We obviously don't know for sure what Spider-Man 4 is going to be, but we do know Kraven was planned for NWH if they couldn't get the multiverse angle to work, so it's not impossible that they go with Kraven for the next one
Not even gonna lie, the chills I had while watching your recreation of Kraven’s Last Hunt. I was on the edge of my seat and I know it probably won’t ever happen, but it sounds so awesome
Personally, my ideal version of Spider-Man would pull inspiration from The Spectacular Spider-Man as well as Ultimate Spider-Man (the comics, not the cartoon). I just think Ultimate Spider-Man is insanely underrated and does a great job of modernizing Spider-Man. I honestly wish the MCU pulled more from it to begin with. But yeah, Spectacular is also goated.
I like the idea of Peter filming himself at home to cope with his loneliness because it's a fun callback to how he started out in the MCU (Homecoming opening scene)
Honestly this sounds like a great idea for a college trilogy but Harry and Gwen should definitely come in as Peter starts to be more open to people, Kraven really deserves to have an encounter with Spider-Man and Scorpion plus his friends deserve to meet up and plot to take down the Spider-Man.
I’ll be honest, before No Way Home was announced and revealed that they would do the multiverse as a plot device and bring in the non-MCU villains (and other Spider-Men) into the MCU, I speculated that the MCU’s third Spider-Man movie would have Kraven as the villain, written as a unconventional bounty hunter, determined to hunt Spidey down thinking he’s a criminal because of what Mysterio said
I know I’m 3 months late, but I thought the same thing dude, it seemed like such an obvious plot to go with. The multiverse stuff surprised me when it was announced
26:45 I had the same thoughts when i was younger. But what really changed my mind was ironically, Tasm2(the movie and game), the comics(asm 2014, spider-verse), and the ultimate spider-man comics and game. Reading/watching/playing those pieces of media really showed me how hard it is to be spidey, and how dope it is that despite all the struggles, he still keeps going, with quips on his lips and a smile on his face.
The one thing I want from Spiderman 4 is him working at feast. I can imagine it fueling Peter after mays death that he decides to continue her legacy by volunteering there from time to time.
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 + Fans would get mad because all they're really doing is converting storylines that we've already seen into the college trilogy with no original ideas
Man this is pretty damn good! I also appreciate the inclusion of the symbiote following the tease but not going into it all the way immediately like most people expect and they likely will. Letting that sit for a while and have him use the suit in this movie without even realizing what it truly is will make the reveal in (I'm assuming) movie 5 more impactful. Hope to see you do the other movies in the college trilogy! Awesome start
Man, now that Tombstone has taken Fisk's place as New York's 'Big Guy', that paves the way for a crime war, à la Spectacular Spider-Man season 2. If only there was another costumed vigilante who's had experiences with big guys...
dude. this is literally perfect. i’ve watched a lot of other videos of pre writes and this is the best one. i love the way u put the spotlight on the “secondary” characters in the spider-man franchise and not go with the obvious choices. the whole aunt may grave scene has me lost for words. the tension and pain that it would bring to the big screen would be historic. i rlly hope some way this becomes reality.
As someone who recently has been binging Euphoria up until now, Alexa Demie and her portrayal of Maddie is always one of the highlights of the show, she'd be a great Felicia Hardy/Black Cat for sure
@@FireJach so your argument against her great performance in euphoria, is that she lacked height and "sexual charisma"??? Anya Taylor Joy isn't even that good lmao
My favorite thing about this prewrite is how it captures Peter's fear and desperation in a way that Tom's Spider-Man specifically has to his advantage. Ever since that scene under the rubble in Homecoming, I've been wanting to see more of the pain and anguish. It makes him so vulnerable and relatable.
I love that ending, it reminds me of TASM 2 rewrite with the MJ introduction, such an important Spider-Man character and that “Face it Tiger” line is so memorable and it puts a smile on my face any time I’m reminded of it
Bro you just made the perfect Spider-Man movie I would love to see this in Spider-Man 4 but either way I'm pretty sure that Tom's next trilogy are going to be the best and most comic book accurate Spider-Man movies ever,something tells me the next trilogy is going to be absolutely amazing and I've got a feeling we'll finally see Peter fight street crime like in ps4 Spider-Man,with villains like Kingpin,Tombstone and Hammerhead omg I cannot wait to see what happens next and that shot of Peter doing the iconic black suit pose from the comics defiantly has to happen in Spider-Man 4 and that post credit scene with MJ is pure genius I really hope Kevin Feige will take notes from this
0:48 Homecoming: he lost his starksuit for a time trying to stop the vulture. He lost his crush and girlfriend because he chose to stop her dad. FFH: Choosing to leave the trip and his friends because he wanted to help beck, thus getting his identitty revealed. NWH: He lost everyone he loved either in death or by memory wipe because he chose to help the villans. People use that argument against hollands spidey but completley turn a blind eye to this.
I wouldn't count the identity reveal as a part of FFH, it's like the last 2 seconds of the movie, we actually see the consequences of that in NWH. FFH ending is: Spider-Man wins against Mysterio and Peter gets a new girlfriend Homecoming is: Spider-Man wins and Peter... loses a crush? That just feels underwhelming, compared to the amazing ending of NWH
@@essem4979 Peter is supposed to be a new superhero who’s about 16, losing your girlfriend for trying to help others at that age is a pretty big consequence, we should rlly put things into perspective when talking about consequences
please stop about ffh- that movie is literally played so comedically all the fucking time you cant feel any emotional weight or stakes because theres no sense of fucking danger because everything has to be so funny for marvel- i absolutely loved peters emotional moment and the final 'you cant trick me anymore' but other than that i cant feel any goddamn sense of emotion in the movie its played like a disney show. in ffh nobody except peter really gets hurt- what makes peter parker spiderman is that others get hurt because of him and what he thinks he does for the greater good and they get close to that in ffh but happy, mj, flash and ned almost getting hunted by the drone was also played off as a fucking joke with comedy during the entire scene. when he 'leaves' the trip theres no fucking backlash from the trip itself in fact even in homecoming they played him joining the quiz team back as he wanted with pleasure as a goddamn joke, double downing on the fact that this peter didnt have it that difficult i like homecoming and i dont think it lacks consequence but liz wasnt even that interesting and there was no spark or love between them that we felt too sad about when she moved away, all the side characters in the home trilogy are 1 dimensional and underused except for mj in no way home id say, so i couldnt care less about liz moving away and yes no way home felt like it had genuine stakes and i adore peter 1s character in it so much, absolutely love him
The way you used the Black Suit in the grave is nothing short of brilliant. Like another comment said, you would have no idea he's changed due to how dark it all is. Overall, I think this is a fantastic pre-write and I really hope we get something like this. Hopefully the consequences of NWH will last and won't just be rectified like the first two Spider-man Holland films.
One thing I rly want to see in the trilogy is Daredevil I feel like he understands Peter and their relationship is rly cool maybe I’m biased but that would be sick
Especially because Daredevil and Spider-Man are top-tier in terms of dealing with pain and trauma, and, like Black Cat in this rewrite, Matt would also help Peter become a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man again. Plus, they have a lot in common. They’re both from New York, they both lost their fathers as well as their father figures, they both wear tights with red on them, they both love to fight a certain tank-sized mobster, and despite their flaws, they both just want to do the right thing.
I'm dying to see a movie plot involving Daredevil and Spidey working together to take down Kingpin, or even a one-season Hawkeye style mini-series with them working together.
What I’d love for them to introduce to Spider-Man films is spidey inner monologue. In my mind that’s a staple to the character and I understand that it’s not so easy to incorporate for film purposes but it’s the perfect time to intro it since he’s all alone
I like how the mj scene is basically the exact same as the one in the TASM2 rewrite but i’m not complaining, it’s a good scene and I feel it could work great in the context of this universe
also BONKERS IDEA but I feel it’d be really silly if, because there’s these animal themed villains all over new york, we got a squirrel girl reference somehow (another steve ditko creation)
I’m probably really stupid but I don’t really get what he’s trying to do with MJ at the end, does she know Felicia? Were they lovers or something? I’m kinda lost
@@clarkstrange2142 well I mean I kinda saw it more as like a sitcom-y romance thing where he realizes “oh shit here’s my past love and my new love in the same room oh no love triangle” kinda thing y’know
Great, now I’m angry because this will never happen. I loved how you managed to include different villains without feeling convoluted, giving the sense that Spider-Man is doing something off-screen besides stopping normal criminals. The whole grave scene was amazing, and the ending even better. I also liked how you reincorporated MJ into the story without it feeling like undoing what happened in NWH.
Hi yall! Here's my pitch for *Fangirl Rewrites Fanboy Prewrite (College Trilogy Part 1)* There's a lot of potential with Vermin here. I feel like he should be the first and only animal-based villain (I don't count Black Cat as a "villain") in this entire movie. At the start, I actually want Spiderman to track him down following his cannibalistic trail. It would work really well for him attempting to get a higher position at the Bugle. Vermin should be very good at hiding, but Peter somehow finds him. Vermin wasn't hiding this time though, because he's getting chased down and he nonverbally pleads for Peter's help. Vermin gets attacked again by Kraven, and Spidey stops him from getting killed. This is where the Kraven fight happens in the video. *BIG CHANGE:* He shouldn't've escaped at all after the Kraven and Spidey fight. He should've been unconscious and heavily injured, and since Spiderman wants to help villains, he takes him to an undisclosed, very unkempt location. It could be any rundown building, but Peter tries to clean things up there. Because the sun is rising, Peter puts him in chains and sets pizza and water in front of him in case he wakes up while he goes to college. We'll come to know that somebody followed him to the building. Peter comes back to Vermin. He decides to ask him what's going on, but as he gets close, he lunges at him to bite him. Peter didn't get bit though, because of the chains. Peter asks him, "What happened to you?" Vermin struggles more in trying to bite him. The audience here should feel how hungry he is for flesh. Peter says, "I know who you are. You're Edward Whelan." And he chills out a little Unbeknownst to Peter, someone was watching the whole time. He senses someone's presence in the room. Peter looks around everywhere and finds nothing apart from a figure running away from his vision. Peter asks, "Is anyone else here?" and Vermin nods. "Who?" Vermin says slowly and grumbly "Bldsjfhpadf..." He can't form any words. "Hold on, don't tell him my name!" Felicia jokes and comes out of the shadows. Peter prepares to fight. She says "I'm not here to fight you, I'm just concerned about him." Peter tells her that Vermin's hers and he wants nothing to do with him. He swings away but Felicia catches up to him on a rooftop. She convinces him to work with her in finding out how to fix Vermin. She wants him to be able to speak. Same stuff in the video happens BUT they find and steal box of syringes labeled for Vermin. It could be an antidote, but they don't know. Peter, because of how how much he hates partnering up, wants to leave Felicia behind and the same thing happens in the video. Back to Vermin, he's trying to eat the normal pizza that Peter gave him, but he can't. He pukes it all out. You can see the pain in his eyes, until Felicia comes back with the box of syringes. Felicia sorts through all of it, and finds a syringe with the label "Antidote" printed on it. He attempts to bite her again, but Felicia calms him down enough to give him the shot. His body contorts and reverts back to a more human form, but he isn't fully there yet. He thanks Felicia as she gives him newly bought pizza to eat. He tastes it and cries tears of joy. *END OF BIG CHANGE* Now the rest of the movie's pretty much the same, but Kraven adds a little interrogation while he's beating Peter up. "Tell me where others like you are, and I'll give you a quick death!" Peter refuses to give up Felicia and Vermin, so Kraven ends up burying him in May's grave. Here, Kraven's burying of him has a lot more weight, and Peter sort of reveals himself to care at least a little about both of them. His shield of wanting to be alone is cracking. When he gets out of the grave, he checks up on Felicia and Vermin and tells them that Kraven's after them. He says that they have to go fix the damage done to Vermin as soon as they can, so he doesn't get hunted down anymore. When Kraven goes to his wife, he doesn't say he's done at first. He tells her that he's more powerful now, and that he can hunt people more easily. When his wife doesn't react well, that's when he says he'll quit. But she doesn't know him anymore, so she still leaves. He goes back to his mission just like in the video. They go to the lab who experimented on Vermin and get more of the antidotes as quickly into him as possible, weakening him into a normal guy- BUT THEN Kraven arrives after having followed them there. Same action scene happens in the video, but the first half is more a chase scene to get Vermin out to safety. When they're close to the exit, Spiderman holds Kraven off as Felicia gets him out. The same thing happens in the rest of the movie. I hope yall like this prewrite rewrite! I'll do this for all of Troy's new prewrite videos!! Edit: Troy, if you're reading this. The Vermin plot can lead REALLY WELL into a Spider-Man and Daredevil movie. Matt Murdock can both defend Vermin and shut down the place that experimented on him. This could get Tombstone involved too. An underground conspiracy would fit so well in the next movie. Maybe Tombstone manipulates Black Cat into killing Vermin so her dad doesn't die in prison. This fuels the lone wolf mindset Peter has even more! I hope you like the idea
Damn this is even better. It drives home the aspect of Spider-Man wanting to save everybody be they hero or villain, gives a conclusion to Vermin’s story, and the idea of a Daredevil/Spidey team up movie is… *chef’s kiss* BEAUTIFUL. I’m seriously dying to know, what do you think should happen in that story?
@@monsoon1303 I'm thinking that Daredevil and Spidey can meet while Felicia's gonna kill Vermin(Now just Ed). Peter could negotiate really poorly and Matt stops him from talking to do it himself. The argument still gets really heated and Felicia tries to kill Ed anyway. Peter webs her away from him but Ed's already bleeding out. Felicia fights both of them until she rips off one of Peter's web shooters and gets hold of Ed again. She holds him in a hostage position. She cries out "I can't let him live I'm sorry" and swings out holding Ed. A chase happens where they get to a high platform and Felicia drops Ed's body down. Peter jumps after him but has only one web shooter. Maybe a slow motion sequence happens where he tries to save him. He safely breaks his fall but he's still unconscious and bleeding out. Felicia comes down, takes a picture of his corpse for tombstone, drops peter's web shooter and runs away. Peter and Matt bring Ed to a hospital and find out he can't be recovered. That's when they decide to team up against Tombstone. Maybe Black Cat can redeem herself near the end idk HAHA Edit: That part could be for the either at the 25% point of the movie or the halfway point. But we gotta establish a good bond between Felicia, Ed, Matt and Peter before the betrayal happens. It HAS to feel like a real betrayal
Good job girl ! If they manage to take the next trilogy in a really dark direction with this sort of story then I think we are in for some “Spectacular” movies . Pun intended of course . Only thing I dislike is Peter revealing his identity , in my opinion he shouldn’t reveal it now at all due to the events that happened earlier .
@@spider-man6932 Imo if Peter forms a bond in Spiderman 4 and gets betrayed in the next movie, it's gonna make for a really good fall arc. Edit: Keep in mind btw that the movie's gonna be roughly 2 hours with the character. Spending that much time with a Peter that's gonna consistently turn down connections with others throughout the movie is gonna feel a little tedious and he's gonna seem a little too selfish and one-dimensional for a character who wants to help people
Words really cannot describe how much I love this pitch. Imo this would be the absolute perfect spider-man movie and now that this is gonna be stuck in my head ima be so disappointed that spider-man 4 probably won't be anything close to this. That said, this is a really great video and I'm excited for the rest of the college trilogy prewrite series, your ideas and adaptions of different storylines from different medias are great and mesh together beautifully, keep it up. Also that entire scene of Peter waking up in the grave, the dialogue, the reveal, it's so fucking awesome and I hope to see at least something similar or even just half as cool be brought to the actual big screens.
This was great! I reckon we could hone in a little bit more on Peter feeling isolated within the public and within the system as well, see him struggle to get a job or go to Empire State because nothing of his past exists anymore.
I absolutely love this prewrite, throughout this whole month I’ve been binging Spider-Man prewrites and even made my own but… your prewrite is BY FAR the best one, I love the inspiration from spectacular Spider-Man btw
Great script, Troy. BTW, I think Joe Manganiello should play Kraven the Hunter and Sydney Sweeney should play Black Cat in the MCU Spider-Man 4. I hope you can do MCU Spider-Man 5 prewrite.
I'm so excited for this omg. I love the paper cutouts you do for these vids man it just makes me happy to see them lol Edit: Wow, that was awesome. I loved how you were able to incorporate a non-spider verse story into something actually interesting. This goes to show you don't need 3 spider-men together to still have a banger movie, if the weight and drama is there for the film, that just makes this small personal story feel absolutely huge. This feels like a Spectacular Spider-Man episode times 10. The MCU is allowed to be dark, so this pitch.? I'm all for it! Absolutely incredible work here Troyo. And that after credits scene, lmao that was also perfect! Oh and the paper cut outs were also great here in this video 👌
Dude... I absolutely love this rewrite! It wasn't too many villains and you introduce so many new faces and a lot of them are my faves! Awesome choice for Tombstone being the underground crime lord and the Spider-Man/Black Cat Dynamic gives me nostalgic vibes. And ofcourse what everyone in the comment section is talking about... The Symbiote Scene! Kraven buried him in his aunt's grave?! Holy Hell! Bravo!
One thing I'm pissed about is that Vulture's potencial with the knowledge of Peter's identity has been erased with the end of No Way Home. I would like to know what would you do about it in the sequels :D
Not necessarily. There's a good chance that he was just thrust into whatever clusterfuck of a universe Sony has with Morbius and Venom (and hopefully Andrew).
An interesting way of handling this would be to make it so that if Peter reveals his secret identity to anyone who knew he was Spider-Man pre NWH, it reverses the spell and they remember everything. Toomes obviously forgets Peter, so he returns to a life of crime and eventually joins the Sinister Six as Vulture. But during a climactic Sinister Six battle in a future movie, Peter is fighting Vulture one on one. He’s having a hard time fighting so many villains at once and doesn’t want to hurt Toomes. So he pulls off the mask. Toomes remembers everything that happened and decides to turn on the other villains. Maybe he even sacrifices himself to help Peter. Either way it could be a nice payoff that’s been a long time coming
I think his daughter is gonna be the black cat, it would be more emotionally impactful and Peter already liked her in the first movie, and also her origin story world be the same since the vulture is in jail just like Felicia's father in the comics, It would be a waste to make black cat be an entirely new character considering how many new characters this movie is supposed to introduce
@@diegob798 This movie isn't necessarily introducing any new characters. And while I'm all for changing up characters from comics to make more sense in movies, I really don't want Liz to be back. She served her purpose. That's it. Done.
@@littleredruri yeah but I mean, why wouldn't they take the chance to know what the vulture is up to AND introduce black cat at the same time? While also explaining further how the memory spell works seeing how liz reacts to Peter, it makes too much sense, it would be a waste otherwise
the whole getting buried in May's grave could be changed to this. Kraven instead smashes May's grave beecause of some honor thing and peter passed out due to the poison and the pain it caused him. He could make this big thing about how he buried Spider-man while his still had breath but remarks that "he should be dead by now" which causes his wife to be furious that he buried a man ALIVE.
honestly I love the end credit scene, that would be really cool if they did that, the mj part is just straight out the comics; although, I do think that kind of forwardness is opposite of the MCU mj so I don't really smth like that happening unfortunately... overall absolutely love this plot, if they do anything remotely similar to this, it'll be an amazing movie!! one thing I do have to say ab it is I don't really like that action scene you talked about w Peter, Felicia, kraven and vermin and here's why: Peter learned from Tobey and Andrew in no way home to control his anger to not kill, etc. so I think that just shows that he learned nothing from no way home however if they did smth like where he was getting ready to kill kraven and then he remembers Tobey stopping him from killing goblin or if Felicia stops him like you mentioned and then that reminds him of Tobey, that would make better sense........ basically what I want to see in this movie is the impact that Tobey and Andrew had on Peter, cuz that was huge for him: to meet other spidermen and he definitely learned some stuff from them
You know I had the exact same idea of casting Alexa Demie as Felicia Hardy. It continues to surprise me when fellow spider-man fans have the same ideas as me. But as always, your pitch was amazing. Keep up the great work and the phenomenal prewrites.
I feel like this story needs an established love interest to work because in the Last Hunt when kraven buried him alive the biggest reason for peter getting out was needing to go back to MJ
Suggestions for the rewrite Sandman needs clear motivation, like either his daughter is dead or something Lizard needs more to do Peter should (imo) ask Dr.Strange to make the world forget about Spider-Man, not Peter Parker. You essentially get the same result, but now you can keep Ned and MJ and Peter has to keep his secret from them, he can become that flakey asshole with 0 explanation that we know and love
"Marvel Studios: Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" That would also be a great title, especially with the tone they left at the end of NWH, in which the 4th film could also show the city being alive and Spider-Man support the communities he protects, bc he's the underdog hero who'll be there for the people.
Very good idea, although I think you could save the black suit for the sequel (have the first movie be Spider man's new hope while the second his Empire Strikes Back) My pitch for the Spider man 4 would focus on the street level side of the MCU, and the plot would be a adaptation Ancient Tablet arc, from Stan Lee/John Romita run (fitting since the previous movies took inspiration from Stan lee and Steve Ditko run), with Spider man dealing with a gang war between Kingpin and Silvermane, who's trying to steal the Ancient Tablet, a invention created by the Eternals that contains a formula that can cure/rejuvenate anyone that drinks it. which Silvermane wants so he can recover his youth and reclaim his control of New York's underworld from Fisk. At first Silvermane would hire Black Cat to steal the tablet but, after she double cross him, he would send his daughter Silver Sable and her squad of mercernaries to get the tablet and eliminate Black Cat and Spider man. Peter arc in the movie would be about learning how to move forward with his life after the events of NWH, and accept new friends like Black Cat, Randy Robertson, Captain Jean DeWolff and her partner Stanley Carter, creating a contrast with Silvermane, who refuse to accept his own mortality and his obsession for the tablet is is what leads him to his death (just like in the comics and cartoon, he gets what he wants, but the formula keep him younger and younger until he cease from existence). With Silvermane gone, Fisk takes over the Underworld, returning to be the Kingpin of New York. The movie would build a rivalry between him and Spider man. First when Spider man goes to him to find information about the gang war, and Fisk tries to convice him into stopping Silvermane. Spider man would refuse to help Fisk win the war, but the villain is able to convice him when says that, if Spider man doesn't do anything, he will carry the blame for all the people caught in the crossfire, innocents who he could saved but didn't (using Peter guilty against him). Their final interaction will taken directly from Ultimate Spider man comics, with Fisk trying to convice Spider man to work for him. Peter refuses, saying that he will never give up until Fisk is behind bars again, that he will never be a criminal like Fisk, which the villain answers by saying that Spider man is just a naive kid who doesn't know the harsh reality he lives in and that., when he learns what he needs to do to survive, he will become a criminal like him (foreshadow the Black Suit arc, which will test Peter morals and values). There would be two post-credit scenes: The first one would take place in Peter apartmeant, where he is with Felicia when they hear a knock in the door, Peter goes to see who is and for his shock is Mary Jane, who remembers everything (at least some parts). In this moment Felicia comes in, making things even more awkward (hitting in love triangle in the sequel) The second post credit scene would have Miles Warren (Peter's professor from college) studing the symbote, which was found in Mexico.
@@PrimordialBeing360 Thanks. For the second and third, I think they should have Fisk as Peter recurring villain in the trilogy, while showing Peter being corrupt by the black suit. They could even have the alien taking advantage of Spider man's failed attempts to arrest Fisk to push him into killing the villain, creating the stakes of the new trilogy, if Peter will be able to defeat Fisk by the law or he will give up of his values and kill the crime boss.
Being able to mesh three storylines together and have be this good showcases your creativity. Kudos. How about the Clone Saga/Spider-Island for the basis for movie two? I liked what Dan Slott did with Insect Queen and MJ was her in the Amalgam Comics. Plus her having super-powers would make it harder to chose Felecia over her.
Movie 2 should have Roderick Kingsley as the Hobgoblin, acting as a murder mystery in which he uses Peter's friends as body doubles. Plus, the Hobgoblin takes control over all of the gangs, making his own Sinister Six. I think he'd also represent Peter's trauma coming back to bite him.
@@Electro21964 Hobgoblin is a movie I've been thinking about. I'd have Hobgoblin be a villain from the '80s that eventually died in a police shootout. His identity was unknown but modern DNA testing reveals him to be Ned Leeds dead uncle he's named after. Peter investigates to clear his friend's family name and learns Kingsley set up Ned Leeds as a fall guy.
My MCU Spider-Man 4 pitch (it’s awesome): We see Spider-Man in the lowest of lows he’s ever been, and he’s attending college where he meets Gwen Stacy and Felicia Hardy. In the beginning, we see him fighting Scorpion, who ends up in prison after their fight, being arrested by Captain Stacy, and we see Black Cat taking note of this from afar. She reports to Kingpin and tells him. He tells her he’ll try to learn more about this “Spider-Man”. We start seeing Gwen and Peter flirting, and after an emotional scene at Gwen’s grave, black cat attacks Spider-Man. She nearly escapes, but he tracks her down to Kingpin. He goes to daredevil for a bit of insight, and we review a little about their history. Daredevil tells Spider-Man to call him when he needs help. We see a few more scenes of Peter bonding with his new friends and flirting with Gwen, and then he is visited by black cat a 2nd time, but she tries a different tactic by pretending to be his ally and says she was a double agent, giving him false information. Spider-Man falls for this and she gains his trust. Then, we see a scene of the scientist dude who becomes the lizard (I forgot his name) inspecting this black goo. He leaves the lab, and the goo escapes. We see Peter trying to find a job, so he works at daily bugle, where he makes enemies with Eddie Brock. Through some shenanigans, Peter ends up with the symbiote. This stops him from thinking rationally, and he starts acting aggressive towards Gwen (who breaks up with him because of this) and Black cat, who actually likes it at first. He also starts acting more aggressive towards Eddy, who ends up getting fired because of Peter. This leads him on a hate rampage towards Peter. He’ll become venom in the next movie. Black cat breaks scorpion out of prison, and gives him his iconic suit. Scorpion and Kingpin have a final battle against Spider-Man and daredevil, with capris. Stacy getting involved. He and scorpion die. In the end, Gwen and Peter get back together. Plot threads that’ll be solved in later movies: Black cat will continue forming a relationship with Peter, and Gwen will figure out about this, as well as him being Spider-Man. Lizard dude will turn into lizard and he and venom will be the main antagonists of the 5th movie. Black cat will start to see the good in Spider-Man and turn against kingpin, who is the main villain of the trilogy. I will make another comment soon giving my pitch for the 5th movie. Hope u read it all!
Can’t wait for part 2 i would have used kingpin instead of tombstone but great video and I think it would be great if the black suit took advantage of peters anger and sadness of losing may and his friends
That black suit reveal was literal perfection. If I ever see that reveal in a future Spider-Man movie I’d probably freak out more than when I saw Tobey and Andrew return
I have to confess that I’ve been thinking about writing a tie in comic series of MCU Spider-Man and after rewatching No way home again. It honestly feels like a good place to write some head canon short stories about Spider-Man until we see a teaser for the next trilogy. Also oh my god that ending credit scene was beyond golden , awesome.
I love this idea, especially having Black Cat and Kraven in the same movie. I once had an idea for it, but it had Peter in an even more dark state. In which he isn't in college yet but got his acceptence letter but felt too bad to even open the letter, which he does at the end ofc (and would meet Gwen and Harry on his first day). Also going more into that Felicia is deeply traumatized and has trouble trusting people but that she kinda trusts Peter and their relationship is more 'lust' based before growing romantic. Something which could come into play when Peter does betray her trust... which is when he would lose her completely. But I certainly love this idea too! It is way more expanded, although it might be a bit crowded also having Tombstone in it? Which perhaps could be saved for later, or like the credits scene?
The portrayal of Kraven the black suit and grave scene and the ending with Felicia is all just perfect out of all the pit he’s for spider man 4 I’ve seen this is by far my favourite
I really really loved this! My only small nitpick is the tombstone Moment, it didn’t feel right for me, to pan from a massive battle, to a small office confrontation. I feel it would’ve been easier to have a scene in between, maybe again with Aaron Davis or someone similar, apart from that I liked it. As a post credit scene after the mid one, I’d of put either something with miles or Kraven’s children.
As much inspiration this takes from spectacular spider-man. I love that you includeded the buried alive plot and having Peter emerge with the symbiote on is pure genius!!
This is legit so awesome! Idk how I feel about the ending because I feel like Peter with the symbiote should be able to mop the floor with Tombstone. It’s a cool idea for Tombstone to overpower Pete easily the first time they meet, but Peter is already incredibly powerful without the Symbiote already that it wouldn’t make sense for him to lose to Tombstone
okay but in all seriousness... zendaya would deliver the absolute hell out of "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot!" and now i kind of need to see it
This was great, like I really like your ideas.. but I really want to be careful with trying not to change Tom Holland's Peter parker's personality too much and the tone of the movie.. I think it should still have a fun light tone at times
this was so good i’m literally speechless! i loved every moment and the jokes were hilarious! you and hitop films always make me get so passionate about my favourite characters and stories i’m in like happy tears by the end of the video! 🥺 “Spectacular” content, we’re blessed! ❤️💙🕸
I would love to finally introduce Matt Murdock/Daredevil as an ally too in the sequel. Since Matt has experience in dealing with double life and double love life (Karen & Elektra) he advise peter not to screw up like he did. I also think Daredevil needs to be like Ally and a friend rather than another mentor.
I absolutely agree with you. I consider Spectacular Spider-Man my Spider-Man, which is why I love Tom Holland so much because he has the potential to be the live action version of it. Love how you use that as a source for this prewrite, keep up the good work man 🙏🏾
I will say I think it would be a good idea for Kraven to kind of understand the Vermin is an actual person as he has the spear in his hand. And while he is about to lower his guard Spider-Man comes in and assumes the worst which doesn't allow Kraven to explain himself.
The 5th movie should have Miles Morales working at F.E.A.S.T. during a field trip to Empire State University, ran by Peter, will be interrupted by Hobgoblin, Miles gets bit by an experimental spider (no matter how much people would hate to see this) should be a hobgoblin movie, ending similar to the start of Kraven’s last hunt, Ned Leeds’ funeral, Peter then finds out it was his best friend, who doesn’t even remember him, was the Hobgoblin. The 6th will start with Peter, he is tearing apart his apartment and then finds a picture of May, he remembers her words and tries to keep going. He vents to Black Cat and she helps him. This movie should be a 80’s Spider-Man comics crime film with Yuri Watanabe, Black Cat, and Daredevil fighting against Tombstone. There will be subtle hints at Olivia Octavius, more hints at the prowler, and Kingpin. after ending on bad terms with Black Cat (they’ll find out how to do that, maybe she was still doing heists behind Peter’s back and lying to him) and after talking to MJ, she remembers him and he starts to train Miles Morales.
I love the scenes where you use pics from the spectacular Spiderman. That Spiderman is so underrated and deserves a second chance. Also there are people making a spectacular Spiderman fanfilm called Geography 101 and you should look into it. They're also making a fanmade spectacular Spiderman S3 so you should prewrite that.
Dude...I seriously love that grave scene and the fact that Peter thinks that the symbiote suit is actually some nanotech suit that he accidently stole. If the MCU doesn't adapt your version of the MCU Spider-man 4, I'm actually gonna be upset.
The Rhino should be played by the rock, it’s so perfect of a casting in my eyes. The Rhino is a big gigantic dude who’s buff as hell and can be just as cool as stupid and funny, such is with Dwayne The Rock Johnson
idk i like the felicia dynamic but not him taking her with him to a party. We need to see Felicia and Peter work more together and Felicia to WANT to know what Peters identity or for Peter to want to tell her. The one unique thing about Felicia is when Peter did that early on in the comics Felicia actually rejected him because she was only attracted to the spider not the man. Also felicia shouldnt start being good right away maybe in the second movie he needs to catch her trying to steal diamonds and shit again
I think the Home trilogy as I'm gonna call it was about makeing peter into spiderman. He learns hes more than the suit in the first movie, learns about trust and responsibility in the second with the Edith glasses, and finally what it means to live his double life and what is the right thing to do. I hope the new trilogy explores stuff like: 4th movie: Isolation, and the value of having others. Villain: scorpion (note: I think kraven is a good villain but I just want to see them portray scorpion well, also an opening where Spidey stops Shocker from robbing a bank) 5th movie: Actions, and the consequences for those actions. Villain: Venom (note: you could have Kraven as a side villain where he reveals the suit is alive) 6th movie: what it means to be spiderman where all oh his past experiences come into one climactic conclusion. Villains: Sinister six (Volture, Kraven, Scorpion, Mysterio who faked his own death, Shocker, and Venom, also kingpin who was orchestrating everything)
Those are some good themes and choices for villains. Personally, I think the themes and villains in each movie should be: 4th movie: Isolation, changes, growing up and the value of having others as well the time you have left in life. Villain: Silvermane (with Silver Sable as his main henchman) and Wilson Fisk 5th movie: Fear and insecurity Villain: Hobgoblin and Symbiote (the symbiote would bond with Peter at the beginning of the movie but, after the suit tries to push him into killing Hobgoblin, Peter would try to break free resulting in a mental duel, very similar to Spectacular Spider man). 6th movie : Redemption and forgiveness Villain: Mr Negative
Thid obviously took a lot of hard work and I like a lot of your ideas! Though it's still funny for me that instead posting a fanfic to AO3 men will post a video essay to TH-cam lol love the video man
It kinda annoys me how people say John watts didn’t plan out the home trilogy. Nwh wasn’t supposed to be a multiverse movie in the start it was supposed to be a kraven movie but I do think he planned all that to be the origin movies. It wasn’t the best move considering we only have a limited number of movies with Tom but I truly believe he planned it out
I love the idea of Peter narrating his day to May’s grave, it reminds me of the scene in homecoming where he leaves the voicemail for happy
It's also a great interpretation of the thought bubbles from the comics. The Raimi movies, and Spectacular especially did a similar thing with Peter talking to himself every episode. Seeing what goes on in Peter's head is a great way for us to get attached to him as he goes on a journey through these movies.
@@sofiyanali2489 totally! I really hope we get a lot of that in whatever comes next
And it's something Peter did with Uncle Ben, at least I remember reading an entire issue (Peter Parker: Spider-man #20) that was just Peter speaking to Ben's grave about what's been going on since the last time he was there (at the time, MJ dissapeared and Peter remembers that laugh it's the best medicine).
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@@JoeLoquacious blatantly lying isn’t a good way to grow my guy
Spider-Man: New College
Spider-Man: College is a torture
Spider-Man: Fuck College
Thats how the college trilogy movies titles should be
HAHAHA
Honestly I haven't even home to college yet but from what I've heard that's too accurate
@@riveringleaf5568 I can assure you it is
spider man: online school
@@nickpow5485 Spider-Man: Drive-Thru Graduation
Spider-Man: College debt
having Peter to be in complete darkness not knowing how he isn’t dead , turning out his in the black suit is so sick I loved it, also if tombstone is in power and in Hawkeye we see Fisk at a lower level I think having Fisk be snapped is what happened , it could lead to an amazing daredevil/Spider-Man movie where they both have to stop a crime war between tombstone and Fisk
Fisk wasn't snapped. The Hawkeye show pretty much stated that Kingpin tipped off Ronin to kill William Lopez (Maya/Echo's dad).
@@theobuniel9643 okay then maybe all his people that he runs his business with snapped so his entire empire crumbled , or maybe daredevil snapped so he left prison and he spent the 5 years trying to build his empire but tombstone his also rising so they have to fight for control
I think it’d be cool if the canonize the daredevil show so that after Fisk gets wrecked, he tried to take a back seat and not be a huge name so he could spend time with Vanessa. But, maybe she was dusted during the snap and for the first year or 2 he tried to travel to clear his mind and get over her, then he goes back to New York and gets back into crime. His hiatus could have contributed to the rise of Tombstone and now they’re constantly at odds
Super man returns vibes. Comes back with black suit
Yoooo this is a really cool idea… I’m so interested in what they are going to do with these next movies. Jesus’ endless love to you my friend take great care in these tough times and know you are not alone
"That's some spiderman Lotus shit right there" ...Boy did that not age well
Especially now that the movie is out and it still gets a lot of backlash 😅
“Relax miles its just a word your kind says it all the time”
@@Door227bro wth what compelled you to say that
That black suit moment was perfect. If there's any part of this that I would absolutely want in the actual movie. Is how the black suit awakens. The only thing I would change is the ending. Having it be Tombstone and having it play like that is too much Spectacular Spider-Man source material. I personally would make it Fisk. Fisk is just starting to rise up again and is around the same place and same time as Matt was in NWH. This way we also slowly build ourselves up to a Spidey & Daredevil meet up.
Facts
I feel like it's going to depend on when this movie takes place in the mcu, for it to be fisk because in hawkeye I don't personally think he was even close to what this story would request of him "His stance in power" granted I still think it could work.
Yeah, I was kinda shocked that he used Tombstone instead of Kingpin.
Like, Vincent D'Onofrio is right there. And he REALLY wants to fight Tom Holland's Spidey. Use him.
Having Fisk instead of Tombstone would not only be awesome but could work as build up for a future crossover between Spider man and Daredevil, since they would have a common enemy. The crossover could even take some inspiration from the Ultimate Marvel Knights arc (only with a reverse of roles) and have Peter failed attempts to arrest Kingpin causing the symbiote to increse his rage and push him into trying to kill the villain, resulting in a fight with Daredevil, trying to prevent Spider man from crossing the line. This could even lead to a moment later where the two bond with Matt revealing his identity and telling Peter that he also once went to a dark place and almost killed Fisk but was able to overcome his desire, choosing the law rather than his anger, inspiring Spider man to get rid of the symbiote (representing Peter's inner darkness)
It could be that the reason it was tombstone is cause he was recovering after getting shot in hawkeye. But in another movie you see kingpin and tombstone meet up again and kingpin puts tombstone in his place and shows him he's in charge.
When Homecoming came out, I thought the titles would be more school/teen related like the upcoming Spider-Man: Freshman Year. FFH would have been "Spider-Man: Summer Break" and NWH would be "Spider-Man: Graduation"
You know a prewrite's really good when it says Part 1 in it
Because he is pre writing the trilogy
He’s writing the whole trilogy
@@xrea_z3729 It's prolly a Mandela effect on my part, but I remember the title without the 'college trilogy' in it. Thanks for correcting me tho!
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I'll throw you a Nicolas Cage as Kraven. Imagine the performances he gave in movies like Mandy or Color Out of Space, and mix that with the heart of what makes Kraven work. An aging perfectionist bored and trying to find challenges everywhere. I reckon he'd pull him off quite well. Give some of that zany 90s Cage energy mixed with the grit of Mandy.
Genius casting choice, I fully agree with what you've said. Nic Cage would definitely be able to do Kraven justice on the big screen
"Peter grabs onto his horn to steer him to the local dump"
"No, not Staten Island"
I'm convinced after that line that you are or were a New Yorker. Takes one to know one.
Or he just really likes the king of Staten Island.
Staten island more like........ bad
@@johnv1109 If you don’t mind me asking, what’s so wrong with Staten Island?
Just goofing lol, though as somebody who lives in SI currently, it's pretty uninteresting, and the people here are kinda rude, but it's home
@@johnv1109 As a Queens resident who commutes to Manhattan frequently, I'd say it's a hellscape covered with fancy lights. It's an overrated borough and has everything I hate about this city dialed to 11.
This was the best Spider-Man 4 concept video I've seen so far :)
And I'm sad that it won't be real :(
who knows some parts might be id especialy love if the black suit part is also love yr vids
Who knows we still got time
@@notane.real1 ayo ben who'd win in a fight, you or speed?
@@alyax- ben can copy speeds attack power and movements. so ben
@@notane.real1 We obviously don't know for sure what Spider-Man 4 is going to be, but we do know Kraven was planned for NWH if they couldn't get the multiverse angle to work, so it's not impossible that they go with Kraven for the next one
Not even gonna lie, the chills I had while watching your recreation of Kraven’s Last Hunt. I was on the edge of my seat and I know it probably won’t ever happen, but it sounds so awesome
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Nah it might
Personally, my ideal version of Spider-Man would pull inspiration from The Spectacular Spider-Man as well as Ultimate Spider-Man (the comics, not the cartoon). I just think Ultimate Spider-Man is insanely underrated and does a great job of modernizing Spider-Man. I honestly wish the MCU pulled more from it to begin with. But yeah, Spectacular is also goated.
Underrated?
I like the idea of Peter filming himself at home to cope with his loneliness because it's a fun callback to how he started out in the MCU (Homecoming opening scene)
Honestly this sounds like a great idea for a college trilogy but Harry and Gwen should definitely come in as Peter starts to be more open to people, Kraven really deserves to have an encounter with Spider-Man and Scorpion plus his friends deserve to meet up and plot to take down the Spider-Man.
I’ll be honest, before No Way Home was announced and revealed that they would do the multiverse as a plot device and bring in the non-MCU villains (and other Spider-Men) into the MCU, I speculated that the MCU’s third Spider-Man movie would have Kraven as the villain, written as a unconventional bounty hunter, determined to hunt Spidey down thinking he’s a criminal because of what Mysterio said
that's what i thought would happen but not with kraven
@@vixinitywastaken punisher?
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@@JoeLoquacious shut up
I know I’m 3 months late, but I thought the same thing dude, it seemed like such an obvious plot to go with. The multiverse stuff surprised me when it was announced
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I had the same thoughts when i was younger. But what really changed my mind was ironically, Tasm2(the movie and game), the comics(asm 2014, spider-verse), and the ultimate spider-man comics and game.
Reading/watching/playing those pieces of media really showed me how hard it is to be spidey, and how dope it is that despite all the struggles, he still keeps going, with quips on his lips and a smile on his face.
The one thing I want from Spiderman 4 is him working at feast. I can imagine it fueling Peter after mays death that he decides to continue her legacy by volunteering there from time to time.
That would be cool and could work for the MCU to introduce later Martin Li AKA Mr Negative.
@@alexandrefrauches132 Too much plot from Spider-Man PS4
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 Of course. It's one the best adaptations of Spider man, alongside NWH, Spectacular Spider man and Spiderman 2
@@alexandrefrauches132 I know but it doesn't work well to borrow so many plot parts from different movies or shows
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 + Fans would get mad because all they're really doing is converting storylines that we've already seen into the college trilogy with no original ideas
Man this is pretty damn good! I also appreciate the inclusion of the symbiote following the tease but not going into it all the way immediately like most people expect and they likely will. Letting that sit for a while and have him use the suit in this movie without even realizing what it truly is will make the reveal in (I'm assuming) movie 5 more impactful. Hope to see you do the other movies in the college trilogy! Awesome start
Man, now that Tombstone has taken Fisk's place as New York's 'Big Guy', that paves the way for a crime war, à la Spectacular Spider-Man season 2.
If only there was another costumed vigilante who's had experiences with big guys...
R u french ?
@@SaladeDeFruitt are you gay
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@@Jose-rb9pn wtf why ?
@@Jose-rb9pn I asked because he wrote "à la"
dude. this is literally perfect. i’ve watched a lot of other videos of pre writes and this is the best one. i love the way u put the spotlight on the “secondary” characters in the spider-man franchise and not go with the obvious choices. the whole aunt may grave scene has me lost for words. the tension and pain that it would bring to the big screen would be historic. i rlly hope some way this becomes reality.
As someone who recently has been binging Euphoria up until now, Alexa Demie and her portrayal of Maddie is always one of the highlights of the show, she'd be a great Felicia Hardy/Black Cat for sure
her or mikey Madison are my picks for Felicia
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Lol no. Black Cat is a tall girl with such a sexual charisma like Anya Taylor-Joy
@@FireJach so your argument against her great performance in euphoria, is that she lacked height and "sexual charisma"??? Anya Taylor Joy isn't even that good lmao
@@FireJach ew no
I love the amount of comics panels from different years being used perfectly for a good story
My favorite thing about this prewrite is how it captures Peter's fear and desperation in a way that Tom's Spider-Man specifically has to his advantage. Ever since that scene under the rubble in Homecoming, I've been wanting to see more of the pain and anguish. It makes him so vulnerable and relatable.
I love that ending, it reminds me of TASM 2 rewrite with the MJ introduction, such an important Spider-Man character and that “Face it Tiger” line is so memorable and it puts a smile on my face any time I’m reminded of it
I liked the way you figured out how to make Peter not notice the real nature of the symbiote by thinking it is nanotech
Bro you just made the perfect Spider-Man movie I would love to see this in Spider-Man 4 but either way I'm pretty sure that Tom's next trilogy are going to be the best and most comic book accurate Spider-Man movies ever,something tells me the next trilogy is going to be absolutely amazing and I've got a feeling we'll finally see Peter fight street crime like in ps4 Spider-Man,with villains like Kingpin,Tombstone and Hammerhead omg I cannot wait to see what happens next and that shot of Peter doing the iconic black suit pose from the comics defiantly has to happen in Spider-Man 4 and that post credit scene with MJ is pure genius I really hope Kevin Feige will take notes from this
Yes this is facts toms next trilogy is going to be the best trilogy of all time. It has so much potential
That's actually such a perfect way to reveal the symbiote suit. Only thing that could make it perfect would be kraven laughing over his grave.
0:48 Homecoming: he lost his starksuit for a time trying to stop the vulture. He lost his crush and girlfriend because he chose to stop her dad. FFH: Choosing to leave the trip and his friends because he wanted to help beck, thus getting his identitty revealed. NWH: He lost everyone he loved either in death or by memory wipe because he chose to help the villans. People use that argument against hollands spidey but completley turn a blind eye to this.
You’re 100% right, I don’t understand how people can watch those movies and claim that they “have no consequences”
I wouldn't count the identity reveal as a part of FFH, it's like the last 2 seconds of the movie, we actually see the consequences of that in NWH.
FFH ending is: Spider-Man wins against Mysterio and Peter gets a new girlfriend
Homecoming is: Spider-Man wins and Peter... loses a crush?
That just feels underwhelming, compared to the amazing ending of NWH
@@essem4979 Peter is supposed to be a new superhero who’s about 16, losing your girlfriend for trying to help others at that age is a pretty big consequence, we should rlly put things into perspective when talking about consequences
please stop about ffh- that movie is literally played so comedically all the fucking time you cant feel any emotional weight or stakes because theres no sense of fucking danger because everything has to be so funny for marvel- i absolutely loved peters emotional moment and the final 'you cant trick me anymore' but other than that i cant feel any goddamn sense of emotion in the movie its played like a disney show. in ffh nobody except peter really gets hurt- what makes peter parker spiderman is that others get hurt because of him and what he thinks he does for the greater good and they get close to that in ffh but happy, mj, flash and ned almost getting hunted by the drone was also played off as a fucking joke with comedy during the entire scene. when he 'leaves' the trip theres no fucking backlash from the trip itself in fact even in homecoming they played him joining the quiz team back as he wanted with pleasure as a goddamn joke, double downing on the fact that this peter didnt have it that difficult
i like homecoming and i dont think it lacks consequence but liz wasnt even that interesting and there was no spark or love between them that we felt too sad about when she moved away, all the side characters in the home trilogy are 1 dimensional and underused except for mj in no way home id say, so i couldnt care less about liz moving away
and yes no way home felt like it had genuine stakes and i adore peter 1s character in it so much, absolutely love him
@@essem4979 They get gradually worse, not only did he lose liz he lost her because he had to put her dad into jail pretty, big for a 16 year old.
I'm genuinely super excited for this. If anyone in the world gets Spider-Man, it's Troy
Hell no did you see his FFH review? I get everyone’s opinions differ but like there’s understanding a character and there’s just disliking change.
@@blax69420 it
@@nixus1909 Exactly
@@nixus1909 thank you finally someone who gets it.
hitop
The way you used the Black Suit in the grave is nothing short of brilliant. Like another comment said, you would have no idea he's changed due to how dark it all is. Overall, I think this is a fantastic pre-write and I really hope we get something like this. Hopefully the consequences of NWH will last and won't just be rectified like the first two Spider-man Holland films.
One thing I rly want to see in the trilogy is Daredevil I feel like he understands Peter and their relationship is rly cool maybe I’m biased but that would be sick
I agree. DD needs to be in the college trilogy.
@Kartik Singh doing both would be even better
He should either appear w/ DD in the movies or season 4 of Daredevil (if there's gonna be one) and they both work together to try and take down fisk
Especially because Daredevil and Spider-Man are top-tier in terms of dealing with pain and trauma, and, like Black Cat in this rewrite, Matt would also help Peter become a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man again.
Plus, they have a lot in common. They’re both from New York, they both lost their fathers as well as their father figures, they both wear tights with red on them, they both love to fight a certain tank-sized mobster, and despite their flaws, they both just want to do the right thing.
I'm dying to see a movie plot involving Daredevil and Spidey working together to take down Kingpin, or even a one-season Hawkeye style mini-series with them working together.
What I’d love for them to introduce to Spider-Man films is spidey inner monologue. In my mind that’s a staple to the character and I understand that it’s not so easy to incorporate for film purposes but it’s the perfect time to intro it since he’s all alone
I like how the mj scene is basically the exact same as the one in the TASM2 rewrite but i’m not complaining, it’s a good scene and I feel it could work great in the context of this universe
also BONKERS IDEA but I feel it’d be really silly if, because there’s these animal themed villains all over new york, we got a squirrel girl reference somehow (another steve ditko creation)
I’m probably really stupid but I don’t really get what he’s trying to do with MJ at the end, does she know Felicia? Were they lovers or something? I’m kinda lost
@@clarkstrange2142 MJ probably just assumes Felicia is Peter’s date at the party and is saying she’s the jackpot. I don’t think she knows her
@@suscollins2257 interesting I guess? But the way he made Peter look back and forth makes me think they all know each other somehow
@@clarkstrange2142 well I mean I kinda saw it more as like a sitcom-y romance thing where he realizes “oh shit here’s my past love and my new love in the same room oh no love triangle” kinda thing y’know
Great, now I’m angry because this will never happen.
I loved how you managed to include different villains without feeling convoluted, giving the sense that Spider-Man is doing something off-screen besides stopping normal criminals.
The whole grave scene was amazing, and the ending even better. I also liked how you reincorporated MJ into the story without it feeling like undoing what happened in NWH.
This was fucking perfect wow great job especially witht the gravescene was really surprising to see you pull from kraven's last hunt
Hi yall! Here's my pitch for *Fangirl Rewrites Fanboy Prewrite (College Trilogy Part 1)*
There's a lot of potential with Vermin here. I feel like he should be the first and only animal-based villain (I don't count Black Cat as a "villain") in this entire movie. At the start, I actually want Spiderman to track him down following his cannibalistic trail. It would work really well for him attempting to get a higher position at the Bugle. Vermin should be very good at hiding, but Peter somehow finds him.
Vermin wasn't hiding this time though, because he's getting chased down and he nonverbally pleads for Peter's help. Vermin gets attacked again by Kraven, and Spidey stops him from getting killed. This is where the Kraven fight happens in the video.
*BIG CHANGE:*
He shouldn't've escaped at all after the Kraven and Spidey fight. He should've been unconscious and heavily injured, and since Spiderman wants to help villains, he takes him to an undisclosed, very unkempt location. It could be any rundown building, but Peter tries to clean things up there. Because the sun is rising, Peter puts him in chains and sets pizza and water in front of him in case he wakes up while he goes to college. We'll come to know that somebody followed him to the building.
Peter comes back to Vermin. He decides to ask him what's going on, but as he gets close, he lunges at him to bite him. Peter didn't get bit though, because of the chains.
Peter asks him, "What happened to you?"
Vermin struggles more in trying to bite him. The audience here should feel how hungry he is for flesh.
Peter says, "I know who you are. You're Edward Whelan."
And he chills out a little
Unbeknownst to Peter, someone was watching the whole time. He senses someone's presence in the room. Peter looks around everywhere and finds nothing apart from a figure running away from his vision.
Peter asks, "Is anyone else here?" and Vermin nods. "Who?"
Vermin says slowly and grumbly "Bldsjfhpadf..." He can't form any words.
"Hold on, don't tell him my name!" Felicia jokes and comes out of the shadows. Peter prepares to fight. She says "I'm not here to fight you, I'm just concerned about him." Peter tells her that Vermin's hers and he wants nothing to do with him. He swings away but Felicia catches up to him on a rooftop. She convinces him to work with her in finding out how to fix Vermin. She wants him to be able to speak.
Same stuff in the video happens BUT they find and steal box of syringes labeled for Vermin. It could be an antidote, but they don't know. Peter, because of how how much he hates partnering up, wants to leave Felicia behind and the same thing happens in the video.
Back to Vermin, he's trying to eat the normal pizza that Peter gave him, but he can't. He pukes it all out. You can see the pain in his eyes, until Felicia comes back with the box of syringes. Felicia sorts through all of it, and finds a syringe with the label "Antidote" printed on it. He attempts to bite her again, but Felicia calms him down enough to give him the shot. His body contorts and reverts back to a more human form, but he isn't fully there yet. He thanks Felicia as she gives him newly bought pizza to eat. He tastes it and cries tears of joy.
*END OF BIG CHANGE*
Now the rest of the movie's pretty much the same, but Kraven adds a little interrogation while he's beating Peter up.
"Tell me where others like you are, and I'll give you a quick death!"
Peter refuses to give up Felicia and Vermin, so Kraven ends up burying him in May's grave. Here, Kraven's burying of him has a lot more weight, and Peter sort of reveals himself to care at least a little about both of them. His shield of wanting to be alone is cracking. When he gets out of the grave, he checks up on Felicia and Vermin and tells them that Kraven's after them. He says that they have to go fix the damage done to Vermin as soon as they can, so he doesn't get hunted down anymore.
When Kraven goes to his wife, he doesn't say he's done at first. He tells her that he's more powerful now, and that he can hunt people more easily. When his wife doesn't react well, that's when he says he'll quit. But she doesn't know him anymore, so she still leaves. He goes back to his mission just like in the video.
They go to the lab who experimented on Vermin and get more of the antidotes as quickly into him as possible, weakening him into a normal guy-
BUT THEN Kraven arrives after having followed them there. Same action scene happens in the video, but the first half is more a chase scene to get Vermin out to safety. When they're close to the exit, Spiderman holds Kraven off as Felicia gets him out. The same thing happens in the rest of the movie.
I hope yall like this prewrite rewrite! I'll do this for all of Troy's new prewrite videos!!
Edit: Troy, if you're reading this. The Vermin plot can lead REALLY WELL into a Spider-Man and Daredevil movie. Matt Murdock can both defend Vermin and shut down the place that experimented on him. This could get Tombstone involved too. An underground conspiracy would fit so well in the next movie. Maybe Tombstone manipulates Black Cat into killing Vermin so her dad doesn't die in prison. This fuels the lone wolf mindset Peter has even more! I hope you like the idea
Damn this is even better. It drives home the aspect of Spider-Man wanting to save everybody be they hero or villain, gives a conclusion to Vermin’s story, and the idea of a Daredevil/Spidey team up movie is… *chef’s kiss* BEAUTIFUL. I’m seriously dying to know, what do you think should happen in that story?
@@monsoon1303 I'm thinking that Daredevil and Spidey can meet while Felicia's gonna kill Vermin(Now just Ed). Peter could negotiate really poorly and Matt stops him from talking to do it himself.
The argument still gets really heated and Felicia tries to kill Ed anyway. Peter webs her away from him but Ed's already bleeding out. Felicia fights both of them until she rips off one of Peter's web shooters and gets hold of Ed again. She holds him in a hostage position. She cries out "I can't let him live I'm sorry" and swings out holding Ed. A chase happens where they get to a high platform and Felicia drops Ed's body down.
Peter jumps after him but has only one web shooter. Maybe a slow motion sequence happens where he tries to save him. He safely breaks his fall but he's still unconscious and bleeding out. Felicia comes down, takes a picture of his corpse for tombstone, drops peter's web shooter and runs away. Peter and Matt bring Ed to a hospital and find out he can't be recovered. That's when they decide to team up against Tombstone.
Maybe Black Cat can redeem herself near the end idk HAHA
Edit: That part could be for the either at the 25% point of the movie or the halfway point. But we gotta establish a good bond between Felicia, Ed, Matt and Peter before the betrayal happens. It HAS to feel like a real betrayal
That’s a good one👍👍👍
Good job girl ! If they manage to take the next trilogy in a really dark direction with this sort of story then I think we are in for some “Spectacular” movies . Pun intended of course . Only thing I dislike is Peter revealing his identity , in my opinion he shouldn’t reveal it now at all due to the events that happened earlier .
@@spider-man6932 Imo if Peter forms a bond in Spiderman 4 and gets betrayed in the next movie, it's gonna make for a really good fall arc.
Edit: Keep in mind btw that the movie's gonna be roughly 2 hours with the character. Spending that much time with a Peter that's gonna consistently turn down connections with others throughout the movie is gonna feel a little tedious and he's gonna seem a little too selfish and one-dimensional for a character who wants to help people
Words really cannot describe how much I love this pitch. Imo this would be the absolute perfect spider-man movie and now that this is gonna be stuck in my head ima be so disappointed that spider-man 4 probably won't be anything close to this. That said, this is a really great video and I'm excited for the rest of the college trilogy prewrite series, your ideas and adaptions of different storylines from different medias are great and mesh together beautifully, keep it up. Also that entire scene of Peter waking up in the grave, the dialogue, the reveal, it's so fucking awesome and I hope to see at least something similar or even just half as cool be brought to the actual big screens.
This was great! I reckon we could hone in a little bit more on Peter feeling isolated within the public and within the system as well, see him struggle to get a job or go to Empire State because nothing of his past exists anymore.
I absolutely love this prewrite, throughout this whole month I’ve been binging Spider-Man prewrites and even made my own but… your prewrite is BY FAR the best one, I love the inspiration from spectacular Spider-Man btw
Great script, Troy. BTW, I think Joe Manganiello should play Kraven the Hunter and Sydney Sweeney should play Black Cat in the MCU Spider-Man 4. I hope you can do MCU Spider-Man 5 prewrite.
They already casted kraven the Hunter for the Sony verse.
@@shantaehalf-geniehero4318 I know. Sony-Verse is way different from the MCU.
Peter: “I don’t want to fight you Kraven.”
Kraven: “I wouldn’t want to fight me neither.”
@@Remix-pr4xd that’s a pretty cool line for their fight scene. It would be like a throwback.
Joe Manganiello or Jason Momoa would be great as Kraven.
Ok, hear me out…
Spider-Man: The College Dropout
Spider-Man: Late Registration
Spider-Man: Graduation
Marvel… pay me…
I'm so excited for this omg. I love the paper cutouts you do for these vids man it just makes me happy to see them lol
Edit: Wow, that was awesome. I loved how you were able to incorporate a non-spider verse story into something actually interesting. This goes to show you don't need 3 spider-men together to still have a banger movie, if the weight and drama is there for the film, that just makes this small personal story feel absolutely huge. This feels like a Spectacular Spider-Man episode times 10. The MCU is allowed to be dark, so this pitch.? I'm all for it! Absolutely incredible work here Troyo. And that after credits scene, lmao that was also perfect! Oh and the paper cut outs were also great here in this video 👌
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That scene with Aaron Davis would be absolutely perfect. Great video man!
I already know its going to be great. Can't wait! I'm so excited for this.
Dude... I absolutely love this rewrite! It wasn't too many villains and you introduce so many new faces and a lot of them are my faves! Awesome choice for Tombstone being the underground crime lord and the Spider-Man/Black Cat Dynamic gives me nostalgic vibes. And ofcourse what everyone in the comment section is talking about... The Symbiote Scene! Kraven buried him in his aunt's grave?! Holy Hell! Bravo!
One thing I'm pissed about is that Vulture's potencial with the knowledge of Peter's identity has been erased with the end of No Way Home. I would like to know what would you do about it in the sequels :D
Not necessarily. There's a good chance that he was just thrust into whatever clusterfuck of a universe Sony has with Morbius and Venom (and hopefully Andrew).
An interesting way of handling this would be to make it so that if Peter reveals his secret identity to anyone who knew he was Spider-Man pre NWH, it reverses the spell and they remember everything.
Toomes obviously forgets Peter, so he returns to a life of crime and eventually joins the Sinister Six as Vulture. But during a climactic Sinister Six battle in a future movie, Peter is fighting Vulture one on one. He’s having a hard time fighting so many villains at once and doesn’t want to hurt Toomes. So he pulls off the mask. Toomes remembers everything that happened and decides to turn on the other villains. Maybe he even sacrifices himself to help Peter. Either way it could be a nice payoff that’s been a long time coming
I think his daughter is gonna be the black cat, it would be more emotionally impactful and Peter already liked her in the first movie, and also her origin story world be the same since the vulture is in jail just like Felicia's father in the comics, It would be a waste to make black cat be an entirely new character considering how many new characters this movie is supposed to introduce
@@diegob798 This movie isn't necessarily introducing any new characters. And while I'm all for changing up characters from comics to make more sense in movies, I really don't want Liz to be back. She served her purpose. That's it. Done.
@@littleredruri yeah but I mean, why wouldn't they take the chance to know what the vulture is up to AND introduce black cat at the same time? While also explaining further how the memory spell works seeing how liz reacts to Peter, it makes too much sense, it would be a waste otherwise
Oh damn, is it bad that I really want this to be like the next movie, especially with that end credit scene and MJ remembering
the whole getting buried in May's grave could be changed to this. Kraven instead smashes May's grave beecause of some honor thing and peter passed out due to the poison and the pain it caused him. He could make this big thing about how he buried Spider-man while his still had breath but remarks that "he should be dead by now" which causes his wife to be furious that he buried a man ALIVE.
honestly I love the end credit scene, that would be really cool if they did that, the mj part is just straight out the comics; although, I do think that kind of forwardness is opposite of the MCU mj so I don't really smth like that happening unfortunately... overall absolutely love this plot, if they do anything remotely similar to this, it'll be an amazing movie!! one thing I do have to say ab it is I don't really like that action scene you talked about w Peter, Felicia, kraven and vermin and here's why: Peter learned from Tobey and Andrew in no way home to control his anger to not kill, etc. so I think that just shows that he learned nothing from no way home however if they did smth like where he was getting ready to kill kraven and then he remembers Tobey stopping him from killing goblin or if Felicia stops him like you mentioned and then that reminds him of Tobey, that would make better sense........ basically what I want to see in this movie is the impact that Tobey and Andrew had on Peter, cuz that was huge for him: to meet other spidermen and he definitely learned some stuff from them
I think that MJ could gain more confidence over this period of time, it's possible she has more friends in college and more comfortable
I like how this is just a remixed version of arcs from spectacular put together
I’m not usually the biggest fan of fan writes, but you absolutely knocked this out of the park.
I really hope Tom holland turns into the spectacular Spider-Man like how they were gonna call homecoming spectacular Spider-Man
Nah its better for him to be original. It's better than to copy and paste
@@fulldreem9009 that too but still keep some elements of spectacular in him
I'd go with the Sensational Spider-Man.
I think a spear going for Peter's head probably wouldn't need to be poison tipped
But hes spiderman tho
You know I had the exact same idea of casting Alexa Demie as Felicia Hardy. It continues to surprise me when fellow spider-man fans have the same ideas as me. But as always, your pitch was amazing. Keep up the great work and the phenomenal prewrites.
I feel like this story needs an established love interest to work because in the Last Hunt when kraven buried him alive the biggest reason for peter getting out was needing to go back to MJ
Suggestions for the rewrite
Sandman needs clear motivation, like either his daughter is dead or something
Lizard needs more to do
Peter should (imo) ask Dr.Strange to make the world forget about Spider-Man, not Peter Parker. You essentially get the same result, but now you can keep Ned and MJ and Peter has to keep his secret from them, he can become that flakey asshole with 0 explanation that we know and love
"Marvel Studios: Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man"
That would also be a great title, especially with the tone they left at the end of NWH, in which the 4th film could also show the city being alive and Spider-Man support the communities he protects, bc he's the underdog hero who'll be there for the people.
Hunter's Habitat could also work in a way
I THINK that would be good but the studios will 100% wanna capitalise on the symbiote being left in the end credits.
Spectacular Spider-Man or Sensational Spider-Man would be cool too
Very good idea, although I think you could save the black suit for the sequel (have the first movie be Spider man's new hope while the second his Empire Strikes Back)
My pitch for the Spider man 4 would focus on the street level side of the MCU, and the plot would be a adaptation Ancient Tablet arc, from Stan Lee/John Romita run (fitting since the previous movies took inspiration from Stan lee and Steve Ditko run), with Spider man dealing with a gang war between Kingpin and Silvermane, who's trying to steal the Ancient Tablet, a invention created by the Eternals that contains a formula that can cure/rejuvenate anyone that drinks it. which Silvermane wants so he can recover his youth and reclaim his control of New York's underworld from Fisk. At first Silvermane would hire Black Cat to steal the tablet but, after she double cross him, he would send his daughter Silver Sable and her squad of mercernaries to get the tablet and eliminate Black Cat and Spider man.
Peter arc in the movie would be about learning how to move forward with his life after the events of NWH, and accept new friends like Black Cat, Randy Robertson, Captain Jean DeWolff and her partner Stanley Carter, creating a contrast with Silvermane, who refuse to accept his own mortality and his obsession for the tablet is is what leads him to his death (just like in the comics and cartoon, he gets what he wants, but the formula keep him younger and younger until he cease from existence).
With Silvermane gone, Fisk takes over the Underworld, returning to be the Kingpin of New York. The movie would build a rivalry between him and Spider man. First when Spider man goes to him to find information about the gang war, and Fisk tries to convice him into stopping Silvermane. Spider man would refuse to help Fisk win the war, but the villain is able to convice him when says that, if Spider man doesn't do anything, he will carry the blame for all the people caught in the crossfire, innocents who he could saved but didn't (using Peter guilty against him).
Their final interaction will taken directly from Ultimate Spider man comics, with Fisk trying to convice Spider man to work for him. Peter refuses, saying that he will never give up until Fisk is behind bars again, that he will never be a criminal like Fisk, which the villain answers by saying that Spider man is just a naive kid who doesn't know the harsh reality he lives in and that., when he learns what he needs to do to survive, he will become a criminal like him (foreshadow the Black Suit arc, which will test Peter morals and values).
There would be two post-credit scenes: The first one would take place in Peter apartmeant, where he is with Felicia when they hear a knock in the door, Peter goes to see who is and for his shock is Mary Jane, who remembers everything (at least some parts). In this moment Felicia comes in, making things even more awkward (hitting in love triangle in the sequel)
The second post credit scene would have Miles Warren (Peter's professor from college) studing the symbote, which was found in Mexico.
Dope af!!!!!! I agree first movie should be exactly what you’ve stated word for word.
@@PrimordialBeing360 Thanks. For the second and third, I think they should have Fisk as Peter recurring villain in the trilogy, while showing Peter being corrupt by the black suit. They could even have the alien taking advantage of Spider man's failed attempts to arrest Fisk to push him into killing the villain, creating the stakes of the new trilogy, if Peter will be able to defeat Fisk by the law or he will give up of his values and kill the crime boss.
18:10 would be such a great scene like bro i got literal chills
Being able to mesh three storylines together and have be this good showcases your creativity. Kudos.
How about the Clone Saga/Spider-Island for the basis for movie two? I liked what Dan Slott did with Insect Queen and MJ was her in the Amalgam Comics. Plus her having super-powers would make it harder to chose Felecia over her.
Movie 2 should have Roderick Kingsley as the Hobgoblin, acting as a murder mystery in which he uses Peter's friends as body doubles. Plus, the Hobgoblin takes control over all of the gangs, making his own Sinister Six. I think he'd also represent Peter's trauma coming back to bite him.
@@Electro21964 Hobgoblin is a movie I've been thinking about. I'd have Hobgoblin be a villain from the '80s that eventually died in a police shootout. His identity was unknown but modern DNA testing reveals him to be Ned Leeds dead uncle he's named after. Peter investigates to clear his friend's family name and learns Kingsley set up Ned Leeds as a fall guy.
My MCU Spider-Man 4 pitch (it’s awesome):
We see Spider-Man in the lowest of lows he’s ever been, and he’s attending college where he meets Gwen Stacy and Felicia Hardy. In the beginning, we see him fighting Scorpion, who ends up in prison after their fight, being arrested by Captain Stacy, and we see Black Cat taking note of this from afar. She reports to Kingpin and tells him. He tells her he’ll try to learn more about this “Spider-Man”. We start seeing Gwen and Peter flirting, and after an emotional scene at Gwen’s grave, black cat attacks Spider-Man. She nearly escapes, but he tracks her down to Kingpin. He goes to daredevil for a bit of insight, and we review a little about their history. Daredevil tells Spider-Man to call him when he needs help. We see a few more scenes of Peter bonding with his new friends and flirting with Gwen, and then he is visited by black cat a 2nd time, but she tries a different tactic by pretending to be his ally and says she was a double agent, giving him false information. Spider-Man falls for this and she gains his trust. Then, we see a scene of the scientist dude who becomes the lizard (I forgot his name) inspecting this black goo. He leaves the lab, and the goo escapes. We see Peter trying to find a job, so he works at daily bugle, where he makes enemies with Eddie Brock. Through some shenanigans, Peter ends up with the symbiote. This stops him from thinking rationally, and he starts acting aggressive towards Gwen (who breaks up with him because of this) and Black cat, who actually likes it at first. He also starts acting more aggressive towards Eddy, who ends up getting fired because of Peter. This leads him on a hate rampage towards Peter. He’ll become venom in the next movie. Black cat breaks scorpion out of prison, and gives him his iconic suit. Scorpion and Kingpin have a final battle against Spider-Man and daredevil, with capris. Stacy getting involved. He and scorpion die. In the end, Gwen and Peter get back together. Plot threads that’ll be solved in later movies: Black cat will continue forming a relationship with Peter, and Gwen will figure out about this, as well as him being Spider-Man. Lizard dude will turn into lizard and he and venom will be the main antagonists of the 5th movie. Black cat will start to see the good in Spider-Man and turn against kingpin, who is the main villain of the trilogy. I will make another comment soon giving my pitch for the 5th movie. Hope u read it all!
Pretty nice!
@@nndrww Thanks
Can’t wait for part 2 i would have used kingpin instead of tombstone but great video and I think it would be great if the black suit took advantage of peters anger and sadness of losing may and his friends
That black suit reveal was literal perfection. If I ever see that reveal in a future Spider-Man movie I’d probably freak out more than when I saw Tobey and Andrew return
I have to confess that I’ve been thinking about writing a tie in comic series of MCU Spider-Man and after rewatching No way home again. It honestly feels like a good place to write some head canon short stories about Spider-Man until we see a teaser for the next trilogy.
Also oh my god that ending credit scene was beyond golden , awesome.
The end just make me smile so hard, this is so good, waiting for the second part
That Venom suit introduction was really well done! I hope something like this happens in one of the College movies.
Dude I’ve been waiting for the next part for a month
that spider man lotus joke didn't age very well..
lmao
I got goosebumps for the black suit and kraven last hunt part!! Really impressive storytelling
I fucking love how dark this went Cus Kravens last hint is such a dark movie and I am glad you went there with aunt may’s grave
I love this idea, especially having Black Cat and Kraven in the same movie. I once had an idea for it, but it had Peter in an even more dark state. In which he isn't in college yet but got his acceptence letter but felt too bad to even open the letter, which he does at the end ofc (and would meet Gwen and Harry on his first day).
Also going more into that Felicia is deeply traumatized and has trouble trusting people but that she kinda trusts Peter and their relationship is more 'lust' based before growing romantic. Something which could come into play when Peter does betray her trust... which is when he would lose her completely.
But I certainly love this idea too! It is way more expanded, although it might be a bit crowded also having Tombstone in it? Which perhaps could be saved for later, or like the credits scene?
The portrayal of Kraven the black suit and grave scene and the ending with Felicia is all just perfect out of all the pit he’s for spider man 4 I’ve seen this is by far my favourite
defiling mays grave is fucking dark and the worst part is kraven doesnt know how fucked up it is bc no one knows thats his aunt
I really really loved this! My only small nitpick is the tombstone Moment, it didn’t feel right for me, to pan from a massive battle, to a small office confrontation. I feel it would’ve been easier to have a scene in between, maybe again with Aaron Davis or someone similar, apart from that I liked it. As a post credit scene after the mid one, I’d of put either something with miles or Kraven’s children.
As much inspiration this takes from spectacular spider-man. I love that you includeded the buried alive plot and having Peter emerge with the symbiote on is pure genius!!
UGH THE GRAVEYARD SCENE WAS SO BADASS
Love this! This would be amazing!
I like the idea of spreading the black suit arc across multiple films, and I love how you present these videos :)
This is legit so awesome! Idk how I feel about the ending because I feel like Peter with the symbiote should be able to mop the floor with Tombstone. It’s a cool idea for Tombstone to overpower Pete easily the first time they meet, but Peter is already incredibly powerful without the Symbiote already that it wouldn’t make sense for him to lose to Tombstone
okay but in all seriousness... zendaya would deliver the absolute hell out of "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot!" and now i kind of need to see it
This was great, like I really like your ideas.. but I really want to be careful with trying not to change Tom Holland's Peter parker's personality too much and the tone of the movie.. I think it should still have a fun light tone at times
Just a suggestion but I absolutely think you should try making a Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars prewrite next.
this was so good i’m literally speechless! i loved every moment and the jokes were hilarious! you and hitop films always make me get so passionate about my favourite characters and stories i’m in like happy tears by the end of the video! 🥺 “Spectacular” content, we’re blessed! ❤️💙🕸
You have a great way of telling a story I think it should be a movie
I would love to finally introduce Matt Murdock/Daredevil as an ally too in the sequel. Since Matt has experience in dealing with double life and double love life (Karen & Elektra) he advise peter not to screw up like he did. I also think Daredevil needs to be like Ally and a friend rather than another mentor.
i’d love to see his senses get a buff so we can see comic accurate daredevil on screen!
I absolutely agree with you. I consider Spectacular Spider-Man my Spider-Man, which is why I love Tom Holland so much because he has the potential to be the live action version of it. Love how you use that as a source for this prewrite, keep up the good work man 🙏🏾
I will say I think it would be a good idea for Kraven to kind of understand the Vermin is an actual person as he has the spear in his hand. And while he is about to lower his guard Spider-Man comes in and assumes the worst which doesn't allow Kraven to explain himself.
The 5th movie should have Miles Morales working at F.E.A.S.T. during a field trip to Empire State University, ran by Peter, will be interrupted by Hobgoblin, Miles gets bit by an experimental spider (no matter how much people would hate to see this) should be a hobgoblin movie, ending similar to the start of Kraven’s last hunt, Ned Leeds’ funeral, Peter then finds out it was his best friend, who doesn’t even remember him, was the Hobgoblin.
The 6th will start with Peter, he is tearing apart his apartment and then finds a picture of May, he remembers her words and tries to keep going. He vents to Black Cat and she helps him. This movie should be a 80’s Spider-Man comics crime film with Yuri Watanabe, Black Cat, and Daredevil fighting against Tombstone. There will be subtle hints at Olivia Octavius, more hints at the prowler, and Kingpin. after ending on bad terms with Black Cat (they’ll find out how to do that, maybe she was still doing heists behind Peter’s back and lying to him) and after talking to MJ, she remembers him and he starts to train Miles Morales.
I love that the final suit is a mixture of the Andrew Garfield suit and the tobey maguire suit
Damn! This is beautiful! I love that you stay true to the source material, but adding you're own element to it.
I love the scenes where you use pics from the spectacular Spiderman. That Spiderman is so underrated and deserves a second chance. Also there are people making a spectacular Spiderman fanfilm called Geography 101 and you should look into it. They're also making a fanmade spectacular Spiderman S3 so you should prewrite that.
Dude...I seriously love that grave scene and the fact that Peter thinks that the symbiote suit is actually some nanotech suit that he accidently stole. If the MCU doesn't adapt your version of the MCU Spider-man 4, I'm actually gonna be upset.
The Rhino should be played by the rock, it’s so perfect of a casting in my eyes. The Rhino is a big gigantic dude who’s buff as hell and can be just as cool as stupid and funny, such is with Dwayne The Rock Johnson
Another great video as always! Keep up the great work! Excited for part 2
idk i like the felicia dynamic but not him taking her with him to a party. We need to see Felicia and Peter work more together and Felicia to WANT to know what Peters identity or for Peter to want to tell her. The one unique thing about Felicia is when Peter did that early on in the comics Felicia actually rejected him because she was only attracted to the spider not the man. Also felicia shouldnt start being good right away maybe in the second movie he needs to catch her trying to steal diamonds and shit again
This'll definitely be better than whatever we actually get, props to you.
I think the Home trilogy as I'm gonna call it was about makeing peter into spiderman. He learns hes more than the suit in the first movie, learns about trust and responsibility in the second with the Edith glasses, and finally what it means to live his double life and what is the right thing to do.
I hope the new trilogy explores stuff like:
4th movie: Isolation, and the value of having others.
Villain: scorpion (note: I think kraven is a good villain but I just want to see them portray scorpion well, also an opening where Spidey stops Shocker from robbing a bank)
5th movie: Actions, and the consequences for those actions.
Villain: Venom (note: you could have Kraven as a side villain where he reveals the suit is alive)
6th movie: what it means to be spiderman where all oh his past experiences come into one climactic conclusion.
Villains: Sinister six (Volture, Kraven, Scorpion, Mysterio who faked his own death, Shocker, and Venom, also kingpin who was orchestrating everything)
Those are some good themes and choices for villains. Personally, I think the themes and villains in each movie should be:
4th movie: Isolation, changes, growing up and the value of having others as well the time you have left in life.
Villain: Silvermane (with Silver Sable as his main henchman) and Wilson Fisk
5th movie: Fear and insecurity
Villain: Hobgoblin and Symbiote (the symbiote would bond with Peter at the beginning of the movie but, after the suit tries to push him into killing Hobgoblin, Peter would try to break free resulting in a mental duel, very similar to Spectacular Spider man).
6th movie : Redemption and forgiveness
Villain: Mr Negative
Thid obviously took a lot of hard work and I like a lot of your ideas! Though it's still funny for me that instead posting a fanfic to AO3 men will post a video essay to TH-cam lol love the video man
It kinda annoys me how people say John watts didn’t plan out the home trilogy. Nwh wasn’t supposed to be a multiverse movie in the start it was supposed to be a kraven movie but I do think he planned all that to be the origin movies. It wasn’t the best move considering we only have a limited number of movies with Tom but I truly believe he planned it out
“Spiders are renowned hunters, but you are little more then a man”. Perfect trailer dialogue
the lotus joke aged well