When you mention Peter visiting May’s grave, I imagined Peter talking about their lives together before she died, as if he’s trying to remind her of who he is because he’s afraid that, when he talks to her, she might not know who this kid visiting her grave everyday is, and my heart broke.
@@troyoboyo17 just curious but what are your top ten favorite Spider-Man villains? I think it’d be make a good video where you could explain your reasons why you love each specific villain.
God this is exactly what marvel needs right now. No major cgi, no big cameos, no universe ending threat. Just a fantastic story that feels personal and relatable. My friend, you’ve made Stan Lee proud.
tapping into spiderman's natural anger, anxieties and faults and building on what that means for him as a person rather than pinning it all on the symbiote is an amazing idea
The framing the whole idea of “Does Spider-Man need to suffer?” at the center is so wild considering that is basically the question at the heart of Spiderverse 2
@@dibsdibs3495It's tough writing a satisfying conclusion, but I thought Troy really delivered. And having Mac Gargan become Venom was brilliant, I thought.
16:57 this should actually be in a movie! The song and him coming out of the grave as if he was dead as the black suited spider man was just an absolute master piece
To people disappointed that this will never be an official movie trilogy, that doesn't make it any less of a Spider-Man story. Any medium, be it comics or shows or this cool narrated format, has the potential to tell a great narrative. And it's not like because it's fanfiction it has any less meaning, if you care about this story then it happened to this version of the character. All of this to say I really loved this video.
This was quite possibly one of the hardest Spider-Man stories I’ve ever heard the black suit as he rose from the grave, the chills I got from miles being in his class it was elegant it was grungy it was a masterpiece. The grave scene is one of the most mettle things I’ve ever had the privilege of experiencing. Ace work dog
I think the introduction of Harry could be changed a tiny bit where MJ introduces her boyfriend, and Peter is happy to see her with a different person. Harry goes to shake peter’s hand and introduces himself. Peter hears his name and his face immediately goes dead. His skin gets pale and the goblin laugh echos in his mind. For a second Harry becomes Norman (cameoed by William Dafoe obviously) but then Peter snaps back to reality and worryingly greets Harry back. Also the fact that you introduced the kid from that one random story about the kid who collects Spider-Man was amazing.
Your take on the black suit is phenominal, and I love that it only amplifies the dormant rage within Peter, rather than creating it. But I've got two notes: first, lean into the addictive aspect of the suit. It would make for incredible subtext throughout the film, where it's both Peter's battle with Scorpion, but also his battle with addiction. Second, the metaphysical visit from May reassuring him that everything is ok just feels out of place for the story. Instead, I think it should be a flashback to May and Ben confronting a young Peter after he got into a fight at school, explaining that while, yes, he's had a lot of hurt throughout his life, that's not an excuse to hurt others, and that we can always choose to be kind, be understanding. Then cut to Peter, wracked with grief that he forgot that lesson. He realises that he was in too deep, and he hangs up the suit, intending to leave Spider-Man behind and focus on being as good as he can be as Peter Parker.
Venom being a combination of a formerly comatose scorpion and his old suit that he wore for like 1-2 movies sounds so rad Even if I personally want Tom Hardy to reprise his role for the mcu this sounds so much better
They could also introduce an aged down version of Gwen. It’s too late in Peter’s arc for Gwen to make an impact, but I believe she’s work well as a supporting character in Miles’ arc. I wouldn’t want for her to become a spider-person in this story, but I think having her as a best friend and later love interest to Miles would work well. I think this could also create an opportunity for a subversion. I’d like to see the Green Goblin drop Gwen again and have Peter successfully save her while sacrificing his own life. I don’t know exactly how it’d work, but I want Peter’s death to be somewhat caused by Miles’ failure to act.
I think it would be cool if, after the second Peter trilogy, they did another trilogy where each one had a different main Spider-Man- Miles for 1, Silk for 2 and Gwen for 3.
The scene where he digs his way out of the grave and it's revealed he's wearing the symbiote...holy shit. There's no way we're gonna get something like that in the MCU cause they'll probably save the suit for Avengers Secret Wars or some shit like that.
@@wastedspace7134 adapting the storylines that already exist is literally what comic book writers do all the time. No way home was a revamp of one more day for the mcu setting. There's a difference between copying an existing storyline and adapting it properly and this is the latter.
@knightslash6385 he didn't adapt anything, everything in this rewrite is bar for bar from different comics. No way home is almost a completely different story than the one more day story from the comocs.
Agreed, that scene was legitimately pretty great. And I appreciate the decision to incorporate the rule of 3s with Peter going too far. 1st in No Way Home, but being stopped by Tobey, 2nd against Kraven here, but stopped by Felicia, and 3rd with Gargon, but nobody was there to stop him this time. Coupling that with the notion that the proclivity for that violent rage being within Peter to begin with and they symbiote merely cranking that up, leads to an incredible payoff. Peter asking the specter of Aunt May if he's a good person after what he did to Scorpion is heart wrenching. Even moreso when he doesn't have the excuse to blame his actions on the symbiote. He has to take responsibility for what he's done. It was all him.
“ It doesn't take a sob story or a family to make someone worth saving, especially when they're a victim of someone else and not in control of their actions.” dude that’s deep as hell
Man this was fucking amazing. This is what the mcu needs right now, no big flashy villains, no multiverse threatening nonsense, but personal emotional and dramstic stories that put the heroes against their own beliefs
"A trilogy that's about as good as The Dark Knight trilogy, and are the best Spider-Man movies since Sam Raimi's trilogy. 10/10 masterpiece." - Martin Scorsese
I love that the black suit only enhanced his anger, I never liked how it was like “weLl It’s JuST The SUit” the darkness being in spider man is soooo good
The thing is, in the original black costume saga, the symbiote didn't alter Peter's personality at all. That was a detail that was added in other Spider-Man media that was retroactively imported into the comics. Originally, the only downside to wearing the suit was that it was taking Peter out for joyrides at night and that eventually, he'd never be able to take it off. And I like that detail for your trilogy because it underscores that everything bad and dangerous about the symbiote was in Peter first. Peter is negligent with his loved ones, Peter is a little self-involved, and the onus is on Peter to engage with those parts of himself and actively rise above them.
I think for Jamison revealing that Tombstone is evil, a video style news report similar to how he told the work Peter was Spider-Man would be the best way to portray that, much better than a buzzfeed article and much more modernized than the newspaper
Thank you for using Mac Gargan and making him not only Scorpion but Venom too. Really hope that happens. It still baffles me to this day why they would cast Nacho from Better Call Saul for him and just throw him in prison and forget about him. I also dig your version of Harry Osborn and how his arc is kind of like the reverse of the Raimi trilogy, because him and Peter start out on the wrong foot but then he turns out to be a pretty ok guy. And Timothee would 100 percent be perfect casting for that.
Actually, now that you mention it...Kraven makes PERFECT sense for the 4th spider-man. I think it would be perfectly sensible for the first Spider-Man film after NWH to have him fight someone he can't out-smart or even overpower. Kraven should be a character that you respect for his morals but the kind of guy you listen to talk and go "uh...is that guy sane?". I think Kraven would be fantastic.
There are some flaws here. The way Tombstone just throws out Spidey’s identity, Harry (I’m assuming) at the end being the villain when I (not saying it’s not there) couldn’t find any build up or reference to it, the idea of the Fantastic Four in this, etcetera etcetera. HOWEVER, the message and the way you build up to it is absolutely beautiful and masterful. The ending is sweet and heartfelt. I love the intro and sequel baiting to Miles, the character work with Jonah, and how you interweave the characters and their motives and missions. I would absolutely love to see something like this. Story: 7.9/10 Characters: 10/10 Message/mission: 100/10 Overall: 117.9/30 You’ve earned a new sub.
Around 21:30, I think it'd be a great idea to have a sort of nightmare flashback and bring back Dafoe to be in it because that was a trend in the raimi films and I think it'd be a great callback
ok lets be honest, the movies will never be like this. i dont even think it would come close to as good as this was. THIS WAS SO GOOD LEGIT MADE ME CRY. idc how the new trilogy will be but i can only hope it would be as good as this. honestly this is amazing, ultimate, it was SPECTACULAR SPIDER_MAN
There won't be another trilogy, at least not with the same version of the character. Holland's clearly done playing the character and has little interest in going back, and Marvel's already been setting up potential replacements for him in the MCU.
Just a thought when Felicia puts her hand on Peters shoulder, the second time he says he’s fine instead of saying “I said I’m fine” it would be neat if he said “ _We said we’re fine_ “ and subconsciously let that slip out. Just a thought
Honestly the only thing that I feel is missing with this prewrite is the intelligence factors that Peter inhibits, like this Peter has more shows of his intelligence than the other 2 did in their own movies, I just wish there was more of that.
the ending in part two where peter has to come to terms with what it means to grow up, be on your own and be responsible for yourself and your actions kinda hit me as a recent adult and college student. got me tearing up. also how you voiced peter sounding so defeated when talking to aunt may was haunting. imma be thinking about this for days i swear
Question: What was your idea for this new goblin at the end of Part 3? - Is it Kingsley as Hobgoblin? - Harry Osborn as the New Goblin? - Ned Lee truly becoming the CEO of Sex?!
Dude I can tell how much love has been poured into this rewrite project and it is 100% worth it. Was honestly losing it there at the ending, as if i were watching a real end-credits teaser for a movie. This entire video is incredible
what the fuck. this was uplifting, emotional, and overall the best prewrite ive ever seen. amazing content bro, i can feel the love you have for this character and you really did it justice. you made me imagine 3 full movies in my head, props to you!
Thank u troyoboyo 17 for compiling this vid. Amazingly written and narrated. Hopefully feige sees this and the movie is made from ur vision. And thank u for using The Spectacular Spider-Man the animated series as a story point.
I can't even lie this is so much better than I expected and I'm so glad you didn't inject too much of that "MCU" DNA into it. No galactic threats, no dimensional beings. Would be amazing to see these as actual films. And as for the Miles in the MCU video? Holy heck yes please he's my favorite Spider-man.
I absolutely adored this entire fanmade trilogy. While watching this video, I sometimes forgot that this won’t be what we get. And while yeah that’s a bummer, I’m so glad you shared this with the world.
This video made me emotional a little bit - one, because it's really good and if they went in this direction it would be perfect. But two, I really love Spider-Man and he's my hero. I mean, I love Daredevil more and he's my favourite but Spidey was my first love and you just summed up the reason why this character is really important and means a whole bunch to people. Those 6 months of work were worth it!
Please do a trilogy following this that would be so great. Just seeing green goblin as the main villain, miles becoming spiderman, harry and peters relationship, possibly even doc ock or martin lee villain appearance
God, the addition of Johnny in the story by the third part just really hits home. It feels like something ripped straight out of the comics and it just feels so Spider Man.
It is actually ripped straight from the comics. There was a b-story in the back of an old issue of a spidey comic called "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man," it's about a kid named Tim Harrison who collects everything spidey related, prompting a newspaper column to write a story about him, which we see narrating over the whole issue, telling us about Tim and how his one wish is to meet spider-man. The issue follows him as he gets that wish, as one night spidey comes and visits him in his room. He shows off his powers, tells Tim about spidey-sense which was a pretty well kept secret at the time, and even reveals his secret identity to him. Eventually he has to go and swings away as the issue comes to its final page. The article reaches its final line with a heartbreaking reveal that Tim was diagnosed with leukemia and only has weeks left to live, as spider-man swings away from a cancer clinic. It's one of the most well known and loved spider-man stories ever, it's just so touching. In fact, when Peter Parker nearly died and went to heaven for like 5 minutes, one of the people who he specifically runs into and talks to is Tim Harrison
God these are so good. Thanks for reposting in one video Troyo. Had a great time rewatching this "glorified fanfiction". I don't care honestly because... Holy shit i love Spider-Man and i love these videos
I think the scene with Johnny towards the third act could be a great place to reuse the civil war responsibility quote. “When you can do the things I can do, and you don’t, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you.” It’s such a good take on the responsibility quote; seeing as this Peter didn’t have an Uncle Ben moment (maybe?) it makes sense for him to come to a simpler, child-like conclusion for his responsibility and power, and having Johnny repeat it would be the final step in urging Peter to dawn the mask once more.
I've never seen a video of yours before and I've not really been into this kind of content lately but I've just sat through this entire video absolutely captivated by this story you've crafted. Not to mention the INSANE amount of detail, hard work, passion, and love that you've clearly put into this video. I might be biased rn but anything the MCU puts out for future spidey will most definitely fall short of what you've made here. Absolutely incredible!
This is gold dude! With all of the people gunning for Fisk and a “Devil’s Reign” I’m so glad you did something different and unique with adding in Tombstone. I’d personally prefer Hobgoblin if I HAD to pick a crime boss villain, especially after the deep hatred Tom’s Peter has with Tobey’s Green Goblin. But I LOVE that you didn’t INSTANTLY try to shoehorn in Kingpin Daredevil Scorpion and Miles all into the same movie. I love that when Peter beats Mac Gargan into a coma it’s not in the black suit, and I love that most of all, this built UP to Venom properly! You also made me like JJJ and I didn’t think that was possible! Spectacular job! Ultimate, even!
This was absolutely amazing and it would be PERFECT, as a 3 seasons tv show, I am not sure about the teilogy because I feel like there is too many thinga going on in each movie, but the BEAUTY on the narrative, cinematography, thought, analysis, everything was done so to perfection, I love how little Johnny is one of those kids that hold on to life for spiderman, like Tim Harrison, I love the arc that peter goes through and is the most msture that has been seen in any spiderman trilogy, I *LOVE* when Kraven puts Peter in May's grave, I love that you introduced Daredevil, I love that you brought back Scorpion, everything was so fucking god I enjoyed everything, few complains would be that, some characters just sometimes dissappear, like after the first movie, Peter never kill Kraven (as far as I remember it is like 1am at this point), and he just beats him down in a sewer, and then Kraven just never appears again, did he die or something? Or just went back with his wife maybe, idk, and Ned completely dissappeared, except if he is the new green goblin, Harry and Mr Fantastic where a little bit like cameos, other than that, everything else goes absolutely hard, and feels amazing, fantastic written, spectacular
Awnsering after 3 month lol I think that implying Kraven off himself somewhere in the 10 last minute after the fight end could first do a comic reference cause well kraven go OOF and it can also show,before the Scorpion scene,that even thought Peter made a promise to never go past the line of killing he cannot control all things
This way better than any live action spidey movie. This is so good. A perfect trilogy. Also is it just me or does peter's current state in the MCU reminds anyone else of ginger Wally in the new 52.
Harry being with MJ and Peter remembering the Osborn name is something I was thinking about for a long time. It's crazy we had the same idea. Great video btw
We need a GoFundMe to make this an actual film trilogy. That scene between Peter and Johnny actually made me tear up hearing it the second time, just imagine what Peter's thinking about.
I predicted from the beginning of Homecoming that Kraven was gonna kill Aunt May at the end of the high school trilogy. Interesting to see I was not that far off from the original plan.
Bruh, they should adapt this somehow, at least as a short comic run or somehow. They need to pay you for this. This is beautiful, I'm watching this even thought I've seen each part separately.
Im rewatching this for the 3rd time and the only problem with this is kraven's pride as a hunter wouldn't allow him to augment himself with any serum.I think after he finally loses his wife then he would take the animal Dna for himself out of desperation prove himself with nothing to lose
Loved these the first time I watched them. And I’m sure I’m gonna love them even more this time! This whole trilogy is genuinely so impressive, I don’t usually cry from TH-cam videos so you’re doing something very right in my opinion
Another possible name for the first movie is ‘Spider-Man: Concrete Jungle’ As it will be set in New York and if they were to have a movie with Kraven as the villain hunting down Spider-Man’s and his animal based villains then you have - Vulture - Black Cat - Scorpion - Chameleon - Tarantula - Kangaroo - Beetle - Puma - Jackal - even Hammer Head technically And new versions of Doctor Octopus, the Lizard and the Rhino or at least their normal identities
@@capybara455 I know they’re brothers but they could be antagonist to each other Also I think I just put him there to make a point about how many animal themes Spider-Man villains there are
Watched your original Spider-Man trilogy you did. Watched this video in one sitting and it still amazes me how well you've told Spider-Man's story. Been going through some rough patches in life. And this video reminded me to not give up and always be better.
AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES???? HOLY SHIT edit: just watched the last part, I had a theory and a hope that if you did make more mcu spidey prewrites, that you would use the hobgoblin instead of the green goblin, and I'm glad to hear I may be right!
Well for my Spidey prewrite, I was thinking the villains for my trilogy would be Hobgoblin, Scorpion, and Alastair Smythe as the main recurring villain in the trilogy along with Fisk and Tombstone. Another potential villain that I would like to use is the Jackal. I would also like to introduce members of the Spider family too.
Thank so much, I'm probably too young to watching these videos, but what you've done for me, given me the courage to write my own silly stories. To learn more about writing, about myself is so important to me. So even if you don't care, even if you never see this, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Writing is amazing. Thoughtful, authentic writing can shape how you understand the world too. If it's something you're interested in, stick with it! There'll be slumps and maybe you'll have a block, or you could fall out of it entirely. But it's never too late to get back into an interest either. Sorry, I don't mean to come off as preachy or patronizing, I just think it's wonderful that you've shared this. I hope you enjoy writing!
I’m genuinely loving this genre of video essay where it’s just canon-divergent, fix-it fan fiction wrapped up in audio/visual package. It’s a format that’s able to combine the ideas and concepts that fan-author wants in a story with the actual narrative of the story they want to tell. The format seamlessly blends the two things together, which is nice since reading an author’s note in the middle of story feels like getting ripped back into reality, despite how much they may add to the overall narrative.
This is one of the best fanfiction stories i evet heard, this actually deserves to be turned into a movie, series, comic book, novel, anything. This is amazing and i thank you for this amazing creation. Thank you
15:12, one of the more appreciable aspects of Holland’s Peter is how easily he overpowers normal humans and how normally only other superhumans can overpower him, but most importantly how consistently it’s depicted. Also, having Miles Warren be a source for various characters, super-criminals or otherwise, is a great way to explain how their are so many of them in the city (and if we take Hawkeye and She-Hulk’s depiction of both Kingpin and Daredevil’s physical capabilities, the former withstanding an explosion point-blank unscathed and the latter swinging down a parking structure as if he was Spiderman, it could be a way to logically explain how these two could display superhuman capabilities despite them supposedly being relatively normal humans. Kingpin especially would likely have access and a desire for superhuman attributes considering his line of work now being complicated by the surplus of supers in his universe, which he would likely need to compete with in order to remain relevant, and his previous defeats at the hands of Daredevil.). It could also be retroactively explained that Warren’s experiments are what created the spider that escaped and bit Peter (and later, the spider that bit Miles and perhaps other characters like Cindy Moon), personally connecting him and potentially all Spider-People in this universe to the antagonists, who are also subjects of Warren’s work, while also allowing them to otherwise remain random people that weren’t “destined” for those powers (both as a way to distinguish Holland’s Spiderman and any others in this continuity from Garfield’s, who was genetically compatible with the spider due to his father using his own genetic code in engineering the spider, not that I found that to be a flaw in that version of the character considering the plot points of Peter’s parents and origins in that series of films was intentionally designed to be a mystery to be unraveled) 1:36:56, Considering Gargan still hates Peter, knows his identity and still is a superhuman without his armor or Venom (same as Kravin), I would think he would still attempt to hold that over Peter in a moment of being subdued, still threaten to hunt his loved ones (a desperate and thoughtless play to control the situation just as he did when he was stabbed that he would likely be too frustrated and prideful to prevent himself from repeating again). Peter’s guilt would be the only thing stopping him from brutalizing or trying to intimidate Gargan into silence, but Gargan may just end up insulting him over being too weak (a triggering phrase considering Goblin spoke it too) to finish him off because it’ll make him feel bad and ruin that idilic heroic image he naively aspires towards (and after all, he’s already proven himself to fall short of any idillic image considering he already tried to kill him before, already gave into his emotions, so why stop now?) However, considering Johnny’s presence in the scene, this boy that perceives Spiderman as virtuous and worth admiring despite his mistakes (Gargan may even accuse Spiderman of having tried to kill him in front of Johnny to further upset Peter and filthy Johnny’s perception of his idol unless Peter were to reveal it first on his own terms), Peter may attempt to shut Gargan down a different way, by genuinely apologizing to him for losing control and critically injuring him, noting that nothing he can do would change that or help get rid of the hate and rage that motivates Gargan’s sadism and vengefulness, something that Peter himself has struggled with and that allows him to empathize with Gargan to a degree, but he refuses to be like Gargan, letting his own issues be an excuse to hurt others and trying to make them feel small and weak so that he can feel big and powerful, not anymore. Gargan can respond with confusion or perhaps frustration at not being able to affect Peter with his words like he did before, feeling robbed of the power he felt while Peter feared him or attempt to dismiss his apology as being so the child in the room praises him more (regarding the memorabilia littering the room), only for Peter to confirm it, but not for praise, but because he wants to set a good example for that child and for Spiderman to be someone worthy of praise (referring to how Gargan only pretended to be a hero for recognition, for himself). It can be a truly cathartic moment where this version of Peter truly embody the compassion and humility of Spiderman, something he couldn’t do on his own when facing Raimi’s Norman (who he seemingly conflates with his Goblin identity despite Norman actually having no control over his body until Peter cured him and demonstrated genuine confusion and remorse when he realized Goblin did something horrible without him even knowing it, making him just another of Goblin’s victims, an aspect of the story that feels unexplored for this Peter, who never really lost control to Venom the same way Raimi’s Peter lost control to his) or this story’s Kraven (who seemingly should have been a bigger threat considering he is also a superhuman with a vendetta against Peter that can actively locate Spiderman and has seen him without his suit), not just defeating a villain physically, but ideologically, something Spiderman in visual media hasn’t really gotten to do, even if it doesn’t ultimately resolve the continued threat of Gargan or Kraven knowing who Peter is (which can later lead to a Sinister Six that are a threat to both Spiderman and Peter, and by extension, any of his associates).
This video rocks I was enthralled the whole way. This format is so creative and your pitches are so dope chameleon as the puppet master and the way u did venom got me hype!!
I know I’ve seen the individual vids, but rewatching this makes me want to draw up a storm! Can listen to your rewrites hours at a time, Good work brodda
I have been lucky to be alive in watching all the Spider-Man media available and my god this trilogy exceeds everything I have ever saw on the character. It is the most relatable representation of this character that I have ever seen. Spider-Man truly represents hope an idea that no matter how much we are pushed down we keep fighting our way back up. I have recently moved to the US for my internship and have had problems lately, of course none to peters level but problems none the less and whenever I felt I was stuck I kept telling myself that the time to run is over it’s rather time to stand up to the world no matter how much it tries to pin us back down. I loved this video and honestly wish if I could direct this with the gentleman in the video playing a major role as a collaborator force because honestly this is the Spider-Man story that felt needed to be told. This video just made me realize how much I love Spider-Man and how important it has been through my life unconsciously for he’s been a force that drove me to never give up the part of realizing his anger and confessing his flaws to may genuinely struck and emotional core for I have struggled with that feeling for so so long and I believe that if this trilogy is ever made by gods grace it will indeed be one of the most meaningful pieces of work I have ever seen for a fictional character, truly I love Spider-Man but I am fortunate I am or anyone is not actually him but his spirit can live within us to never give up and do the right thing truly Stan lee though unintentional at first made a universal character.
Making him a science teacher is actually EXACTLY what Peter Parker was meant to become. That character was meant to be a teacher.
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Yeah and with Miles appearing in the mid-credit scene, that could possibly lead to a Miles Morales spin-off, that is if Troy decides to do one
He was a science teacher at one point in the comics already
Ned, we need to cook
Peter being buried in May's grave and rising to the surface with the black suit is the most metal thing I've ever heard holy FUCK
Lmao Yes it's funny how something very similar happened to Batman
@@jajo3203 only with batman bane didn't go through the trouble of removing his parent's corpses
It's literally copied from Kraven's Last Hunt comic
@@sandrokan00 i dont think it was mays grave in the comics tho no?
@@stonedinparadise1381 no it wasnt but still
I so see Gargan making a joke like, "What's a scorpion without a little Venom"
ooh FUCK that's good
@@troyoboyo17 mhm, hire me when you make it, the one liners are always here
@@troyoboyo17 Troy r u gonna make 7, 8 and 9 (I really think you should because I absolutely love this trilogy)
Jesus this line is so raw that even a modern marvel film can't ruin it.
@@troyoboyo17 Nice little twist on having Gargan become Venom instead of Eddie.
When you mention Peter visiting May’s grave, I imagined Peter talking about their lives together before she died, as if he’s trying to remind her of who he is because he’s afraid that, when he talks to her, she might not know who this kid visiting her grave everyday is, and my heart broke.
holy FUCK that's so fucked up I love that
That's so good but so painful
@@troyoboyo17 just curious but what are your top ten favorite Spider-Man villains? I think it’d be make a good video where you could explain your reasons why you love each specific villain.
this genre of popsicle stick fanfiction needs to become more popular. it was an absolute blast to watch
Can I ask what popsicle stick means in this context? You're right, tho
@@conradodelreal7265 I'm just talking about how he glued the characters' pictures onto popsicle sticks to act out the parts there wasn't footage for 👍
battleblock theatre moment
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”4
@@UkeShrumi’m gay
"I'm the CEO of sex!" Has to be the best line I have ever heard from a script
Yeah i loved that part
Sounds like something out of scott the woz
God this is exactly what marvel needs right now. No major cgi, no big cameos, no universe ending threat. Just a fantastic story that feels personal and relatable. My friend, you’ve made Stan Lee proud.
Cgi is needed
@@Deity_devil think they meant as in maajor cgi, not just touch ups
@@Malicenia honestly whats wrong with lots of cgi? If it's done well it's no problem
Elegantly used, tasteful cgi thought out and used purposefully with time given to the artists can look amazing.
@@yourfathersinferioritycomplex Oh I don't have compaints, was just hopefully helpin to explain. Venom would require heavy CGI
tapping into spiderman's natural anger, anxieties and faults and building on what that means for him as a person rather than pinning it all on the symbiote is an amazing idea
And the fact that the symbiote feeds on these negative emotions only amplifies this effect
The framing the whole idea of “Does Spider-Man need to suffer?” at the center is so wild considering that is basically the question at the heart of Spiderverse 2
Damn...
Disney hardly would approve this dark tone tone to spiderman. But to me this trilogy is canon, great job man.
@@lemonsarelemoms6070Spider-Man’s film rights are owned by Sony Pictures, not Disney.
@@lemonsarelemoms6070Spider-Man is definitely owned by Spider-Man
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”w
@@UkeShrum
Real
I think they’d be okay with it if you pitched it the right way.
“Am I really going to defile this grave to kill Spider-Man?”
“OF COURSE I AM!”
Reference from?
@@1_M0NK3Y_1 SpongeBob. It’s a line from Mr. Krabs.
@@SuperBatSpider I remember the time Mr. Krabs defiled a grave to troll Spider-Man. Classic Krab moment
''I'm Kraven The Hunter, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arg, Arrrrrg!
This is the greatest Spidey trilogy that never was.
It progressively gets worse
@@dibsdibs3495It's tough writing a satisfying conclusion, but I thought Troy really delivered. And having Mac Gargan become Venom was brilliant, I thought.
@@somerandolad yeah y’know what it’s been a while, I’ll give this a rewatch to give it another chance
It could be?
@@dibsdibs3495 Makes it better
16:57 this should actually be in a movie! The song and him coming out of the grave as if he was dead as the black suited spider man was just an absolute master piece
IKR ! It was so badass
Mixing the kravens last hunt Spiderman "death" with the classic black suit theme would make theaters blow up in hype. This NEEDS to happen
ikr!! i actually gasped
@@Quentino808 It would be fantastic, but it's super unlikely :(
I really hope they adapt that cover from the comics where hes rising out of the grave in the movies because it would just look So Cool
To people disappointed that this will never be an official movie trilogy, that doesn't make it any less of a Spider-Man story. Any medium, be it comics or shows or this cool narrated format, has the potential to tell a great narrative. And it's not like because it's fanfiction it has any less meaning, if you care about this story then it happened to this version of the character. All of this to say I really loved this video.
This was quite possibly one of the hardest Spider-Man stories I’ve ever heard the black suit as he rose from the grave, the chills I got from miles being in his class it was elegant it was grungy it was a masterpiece. The grave scene is one of the most mettle things I’ve ever had the privilege of experiencing. Ace work dog
I think the introduction of Harry could be changed a tiny bit where MJ introduces her boyfriend, and Peter is happy to see her with a different person. Harry goes to shake peter’s hand and introduces himself. Peter hears his name and his face immediately goes dead. His skin gets pale and the goblin laugh echos in his mind. For a second Harry becomes Norman (cameoed by William Dafoe obviously) but then Peter snaps back to reality and worryingly greets Harry back.
Also the fact that you introduced the kid from that one random story about the kid who collects Spider-Man was amazing.
I need Peter absolutely holding himself back from beating an orphan named Harry Osborne
@@error8119 yes
Honestly Troy, I really REALLY respect the craft behind this trilogys structure 👌
Thank you!
@@troyoboyo17 could you make an MCU superior foes of Spider-Man pitch?
@@brewmaster2912 if he makes it he could put them in Spider-Man 7, 8 or 9
Almost every god damn Post Credits ends with "Oh Fu-" is honestly a great running gag.
Not in Second Sting
@@natek4488simple fix would be having Felicia go "Oh fu-" when she seed Wilson Fisk is still alive.
Feels pretty fitting and would continue the gag.
It always felt childish and out of place for a Spider-Man story, I hope they leave that out
@@amunnamed Nah, it would ruin the whole tone the finale was having
Your take on the black suit is phenominal, and I love that it only amplifies the dormant rage within Peter, rather than creating it. But I've got two notes: first, lean into the addictive aspect of the suit. It would make for incredible subtext throughout the film, where it's both Peter's battle with Scorpion, but also his battle with addiction. Second, the metaphysical visit from May reassuring him that everything is ok just feels out of place for the story. Instead, I think it should be a flashback to May and Ben confronting a young Peter after he got into a fight at school, explaining that while, yes, he's had a lot of hurt throughout his life, that's not an excuse to hurt others, and that we can always choose to be kind, be understanding. Then cut to Peter, wracked with grief that he forgot that lesson. He realises that he was in too deep, and he hangs up the suit, intending to leave Spider-Man behind and focus on being as good as he can be as Peter Parker.
It also echos the Tony quote “if you’re nothing with out this suit you shouldn’t have it” and now Peter doesn’t think he should have it
Venom being a combination of a formerly comatose scorpion and his old suit that he wore for like 1-2 movies sounds so rad
Even if I personally want Tom Hardy to reprise his role for the mcu this sounds so much better
Dude you really need to write a follow up trilogy with an adult Peter and Miles taking up the mantle. Amazing video, seriously
holy shit yes
They could also introduce an aged down version of Gwen. It’s too late in Peter’s arc for Gwen to make an impact, but I believe she’s work well as a supporting character in Miles’ arc. I wouldn’t want for her to become a spider-person in this story, but I think having her as a best friend and later love interest to Miles would work well.
I think this could also create an opportunity for a subversion. I’d like to see the Green Goblin drop Gwen again and have Peter successfully save her while sacrificing his own life. I don’t know exactly how it’d work, but I want Peter’s death to be somewhat caused by Miles’ failure to act.
i need that sequel video so badly haha
I think it would be cool if, after the second Peter trilogy, they did another trilogy where each one had a different main Spider-Man- Miles for 1, Silk for 2 and Gwen for 3.
@@jarrickhillery8664 Maybe she could be the movie version of Phin from the Spider-man: Miles Morales game
To paraphrase the great wrestler Brett Hart.
“ This trilogy is the best there is, the there was and the best there ever will be”
This trilogy is great
one T in Bret
@@Solarof928 yk you can edit it right 😭
W for Bret again
@@zoxyy.1xits not his comment bruh😭😭
The scene where he digs his way out of the grave and it's revealed he's wearing the symbiote...holy shit. There's no way we're gonna get something like that in the MCU cause they'll probably save the suit for Avengers Secret Wars or some shit like that.
The first movie idea is almost bar for bar the plot of the first half of insomniacs Spider-Man 2 😭 9 months before it came out
It's almost like they're both adapting the kraven's last hunt and great hunt storylines
As a fanfiction writer this is the best ever spider-man fanfic I have ever seen and has given me so many ideas for my own take on a College trilogy.
all bro did was copy story lines that already exist.
@@wastedspace7134 adapting the storylines that already exist is literally what comic book writers do all the time. No way home was a revamp of one more day for the mcu setting.
There's a difference between copying an existing storyline and adapting it properly and this is the latter.
@knightslash6385 he didn't adapt anything, everything in this rewrite is bar for bar from different comics. No way home is almost a completely different story than the one more day story from the comocs.
@@wastedspace7134 I'm not sure if we watched the same video.
@@wastedspace7134WTF are you smoking?
"Yeah. Yeah I'm back."
I will never get over the chills that line gives me
I just heard tobey yelling it in my head😂
It reminds me of superior Spider-Man when Peter regains control of his body and immediately mocks Green Goblin.
you can call me a “widdle cry baby” all you want, but that Aunt May scene in the second movie made me actually tear up….dang.
Agreed, that scene was legitimately pretty great. And I appreciate the decision to incorporate the rule of 3s with Peter going too far. 1st in No Way Home, but being stopped by Tobey, 2nd against Kraven here, but stopped by Felicia, and 3rd with Gargon, but nobody was there to stop him this time. Coupling that with the notion that the proclivity for that violent rage being within Peter to begin with and they symbiote merely cranking that up, leads to an incredible payoff.
Peter asking the specter of Aunt May if he's a good person after what he did to Scorpion is heart wrenching. Even moreso when he doesn't have the excuse to blame his actions on the symbiote. He has to take responsibility for what he's done. It was all him.
agreed, if that happened in the actual movie i would probably start tearing up
“ It doesn't take a sob story or a family to make someone worth saving, especially when they're a victim of someone else and not in control of their actions.” dude that’s deep as hell
I Love it ...
I was baked out of my mind when I found this and it was quite the journey. I felt like I had truly watched a 9 hour long trilogy.
Damn
Same dude
Bro I just had that same experience wtf
WOW. Imagine walking out of the theatre after the second movie. I don't think I'd be able to wait however long they need to make the third one.
The most fictional thing in this pitch is New York being quiet at 3:03
Man this was fucking amazing. This is what the mcu needs right now, no big flashy villains, no multiverse threatening nonsense, but personal emotional and dramstic stories that put the heroes against their own beliefs
"A trilogy that's about as good as The Dark Knight trilogy, and are the best Spider-Man movies since Sam Raimi's trilogy. 10/10 masterpiece."
- Martin Scorsese
I love that the black suit only enhanced his anger, I never liked how it was like “weLl It’s JuST The SUit” the darkness being in spider man is soooo good
this is THE spider-man pre-write EVER!!! literally come back to it every few months when I need more spider-man content!!
The symbiote theme kicking in gave me the goosebumpiest goosebumps I've ever had. Fuck I need this movie.
The thing is, in the original black costume saga, the symbiote didn't alter Peter's personality at all. That was a detail that was added in other Spider-Man media that was retroactively imported into the comics. Originally, the only downside to wearing the suit was that it was taking Peter out for joyrides at night and that eventually, he'd never be able to take it off. And I like that detail for your trilogy because it underscores that everything bad and dangerous about the symbiote was in Peter first. Peter is negligent with his loved ones, Peter is a little self-involved, and the onus is on Peter to engage with those parts of himself and actively rise above them.
This is my favourite Spider-Man trilogy, it's so great!
Especially love how dark it gets, really shows the growth from previous movies
I HOLLERED at that metal version of Raimi's black suit theme, holy shit that was so awesome
I think for Jamison revealing that Tombstone is evil, a video style news report similar to how he told the work Peter was Spider-Man would be the best way to portray that, much better than a buzzfeed article and much more modernized than the newspaper
Thank you for using Mac Gargan and making him not only Scorpion but Venom too. Really hope that happens. It still baffles me to this day why they would cast Nacho from Better Call Saul for him and just throw him in prison and forget about him.
I also dig your version of Harry Osborn and how his arc is kind of like the reverse of the Raimi trilogy, because him and Peter start out on the wrong foot but then he turns out to be a pretty ok guy. And Timothee would 100 percent be perfect casting for that.
This trilogy is the closest thing to an actual perfect trilogy I have ever seen. It tells me that you 100% understand spideys character
This truly makes the scorpion seem like a truly terrifying monstrosity, I love this trilogy's darkness
1:40:56 The perfect line here would be "See me after class, Miles." or something along those lines
this masterpiece of a video and insomniacs spider man 2 make me realize how well Kraven goes with a symbiote story
Actually, now that you mention it...Kraven makes PERFECT sense for the 4th spider-man. I think it would be perfectly sensible for the first Spider-Man film after NWH to have him fight someone he can't out-smart or even overpower. Kraven should be a character that you respect for his morals but the kind of guy you listen to talk and go "uh...is that guy sane?". I think Kraven would be fantastic.
There are some flaws here. The way Tombstone just throws out Spidey’s identity, Harry (I’m assuming) at the end being the villain when I (not saying it’s not there) couldn’t find any build up or reference to it, the idea of the Fantastic Four in this, etcetera etcetera. HOWEVER, the message and the way you build up to it is absolutely beautiful and masterful. The ending is sweet and heartfelt. I love the intro and sequel baiting to Miles, the character work with Jonah, and how you interweave the characters and their motives and missions. I would absolutely love to see something like this.
Story: 7.9/10
Characters: 10/10
Message/mission: 100/10
Overall: 117.9/30
You’ve earned a new sub.
I'm pretty sure he was actually setting up Ned as Hobgoblin in the end there lol
i think its norman osborn?
@blindowl2656 I think it's Roderick Kingsley like it is in the comics
Around 21:30, I think it'd be a great idea to have a sort of nightmare flashback and bring back Dafoe to be in it because that was a trend in the raimi films and I think it'd be a great callback
And I mean, Dafoe was the third and most impactful impact in Peter’s life.
He killed May, almost killed MJ and destroyed all the things he loved.
ok lets be honest, the movies will never be like this. i dont even think it would come close to as good as this was. THIS WAS SO GOOD LEGIT MADE ME CRY. idc how the new trilogy will be but i can only hope it would be as good as this. honestly this is amazing, ultimate, it was SPECTACULAR SPIDER_MAN
There won't be another trilogy, at least not with the same version of the character. Holland's clearly done playing the character and has little interest in going back, and Marvel's already been setting up potential replacements for him in the MCU.
@@Cr3zant tf are you talking about? he's clearly not done and he's literally negotiating his next contract
Kingpin wanting a mcrib is the greatest thing ever
Just a thought when Felicia puts her hand on Peters shoulder, the second time he says he’s fine instead of saying “I said I’m fine” it would be neat if he said “ _We said we’re fine_ “ and subconsciously let that slip out. Just a thought
That sounds sick 🫣 I love it
Black suit doesn’t take peter over like that though
@@ImWithMe like the mcu has been 1 to 1 with comic books anyway. I mean we had a mecha vulture and a iron man mysterio.
@@ImWithMe yeah my b it’s more of a reference to Spectacular Spider-Man when Peter even notes how he always thinks “we” instead of “I” internally
@@tdjkhazard4522 Ohh bet I didn't even know that that's cool
Honestly the only thing that I feel is missing with this prewrite is the intelligence factors that Peter inhibits, like this Peter has more shows of his intelligence than the other 2 did in their own movies, I just wish there was more of that.
the ending in part two where peter has to come to terms with what it means to grow up, be on your own and be responsible for yourself and your actions kinda hit me as a recent adult and college student. got me tearing up. also how you voiced peter sounding so defeated when talking to aunt may was haunting. imma be thinking about this for days i swear
Question: What was your idea for this new goblin at the end of Part 3?
- Is it Kingsley as Hobgoblin?
- Harry Osborn as the New Goblin?
- Ned Lee truly becoming the CEO of Sex?!
Kingsley makes the most sense, up and comer in the criminal underworld. Fills the power vacuum.
Dude I can tell how much love has been poured into this rewrite project and it is 100% worth it. Was honestly losing it there at the ending, as if i were watching a real end-credits teaser for a movie. This entire video is incredible
what the fuck. this was uplifting, emotional, and overall the best prewrite ive ever seen. amazing content bro, i can feel the love you have for this character and you really did it justice. you made me imagine 3 full movies in my head, props to you!
To solve the problem of Osborn not existing in the main MCU, you could give it the name it had when Liz Allen was CEO in the comics, Alchemax.
Thank u troyoboyo 17 for compiling this vid. Amazingly written and narrated. Hopefully feige sees this and the movie is made from ur vision. And thank u for using The Spectacular Spider-Man the animated series as a story point.
I can't even lie this is so much better than I expected and I'm so glad you didn't inject too much of that "MCU" DNA into it. No galactic threats, no dimensional beings. Would be amazing to see these as actual films. And as for the Miles in the MCU video? Holy heck yes please he's my favorite Spider-man.
I absolutely adored this entire fanmade trilogy. While watching this video, I sometimes forgot that this won’t be what we get. And while yeah that’s a bummer, I’m so glad you shared this with the world.
The J. Jonah redemption arc brought tears to my eyes. Bravo!
This video made me emotional a little bit - one, because it's really good and if they went in this direction it would be perfect. But two, I really love Spider-Man and he's my hero. I mean, I love Daredevil more and he's my favourite but Spidey was my first love and you just summed up the reason why this character is really important and means a whole bunch to people. Those 6 months of work were worth it!
This is how I felt when I played with my Spider-Man toys as a kid! Haha love the video super great ideas!!
Please do a trilogy following this that would be so great. Just seeing green goblin as the main villain, miles becoming spiderman, harry and peters relationship, possibly even doc ock or martin lee villain appearance
God, the addition of Johnny in the story by the third part just really hits home. It feels like something ripped straight out of the comics and it just feels so Spider Man.
It is actually ripped straight from the comics. There was a b-story in the back of an old issue of a spidey comic called "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man," it's about a kid named Tim Harrison who collects everything spidey related, prompting a newspaper column to write a story about him, which we see narrating over the whole issue, telling us about Tim and how his one wish is to meet spider-man. The issue follows him as he gets that wish, as one night spidey comes and visits him in his room.
He shows off his powers, tells Tim about spidey-sense which was a pretty well kept secret at the time, and even reveals his secret identity to him. Eventually he has to go and swings away as the issue comes to its final page. The article reaches its final line with a heartbreaking reveal that Tim was diagnosed with leukemia and only has weeks left to live, as spider-man swings away from a cancer clinic.
It's one of the most well known and loved spider-man stories ever, it's just so touching. In fact, when Peter Parker nearly died and went to heaven for like 5 minutes, one of the people who he specifically runs into and talks to is Tim Harrison
God these are so good. Thanks for reposting in one video Troyo. Had a great time rewatching this "glorified fanfiction". I don't care honestly because... Holy shit i love Spider-Man and i love these videos
I think the scene with Johnny towards the third act could be a great place to reuse the civil war responsibility quote. “When you can do the things I can do, and you don’t, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you.” It’s such a good take on the responsibility quote; seeing as this Peter didn’t have an Uncle Ben moment (maybe?) it makes sense for him to come to a simpler, child-like conclusion for his responsibility and power, and having Johnny repeat it would be the final step in urging Peter to dawn the mask once more.
I've never seen a video of yours before and I've not really been into this kind of content lately but I've just sat through this entire video absolutely captivated by this story you've crafted. Not to mention the INSANE amount of detail, hard work, passion, and love that you've clearly put into this video. I might be biased rn but anything the MCU puts out for future spidey will most definitely fall short of what you've made here. Absolutely incredible!
You should’ve made Kingpin’s motivation getting back the McRib
This is gold dude! With all of the people gunning for Fisk and a “Devil’s Reign” I’m so glad you did something different and unique with adding in Tombstone. I’d personally prefer Hobgoblin if I HAD to pick a crime boss villain, especially after the deep hatred Tom’s Peter has with Tobey’s Green Goblin. But I LOVE that you didn’t INSTANTLY try to shoehorn in Kingpin Daredevil Scorpion and Miles all into the same movie. I love that when Peter beats Mac Gargan into a coma it’s not in the black suit, and I love that most of all, this built UP to Venom properly! You also made me like JJJ and I didn’t think that was possible! Spectacular job! Ultimate, even!
This was absolutely amazing and it would be PERFECT, as a 3 seasons tv show, I am not sure about the teilogy because I feel like there is too many thinga going on in each movie, but the BEAUTY on the narrative, cinematography, thought, analysis, everything was done so to perfection, I love how little Johnny is one of those kids that hold on to life for spiderman, like Tim Harrison, I love the arc that peter goes through and is the most msture that has been seen in any spiderman trilogy, I *LOVE* when Kraven puts Peter in May's grave, I love that you introduced Daredevil, I love that you brought back Scorpion, everything was so fucking god I enjoyed everything, few complains would be that, some characters just sometimes dissappear, like after the first movie, Peter never kill Kraven (as far as I remember it is like 1am at this point), and he just beats him down in a sewer, and then Kraven just never appears again, did he die or something? Or just went back with his wife maybe, idk, and Ned completely dissappeared, except if he is the new green goblin, Harry and Mr Fantastic where a little bit like cameos, other than that, everything else goes absolutely hard, and feels amazing, fantastic written, spectacular
Awnsering after 3 month lol
I think that implying Kraven off himself somewhere in the 10 last minute after the fight end could first do a comic reference cause well kraven go OOF and it can also show,before the Scorpion scene,that even thought Peter made a promise to never go past the line of killing he cannot control all things
I agree ngl this narrative feels too large to fit in a trilogy
This way better than any live action spidey movie. This is so good. A perfect trilogy. Also is it just me or does peter's current state in the MCU reminds anyone else of ginger Wally in the new 52.
Harry being with MJ and Peter remembering the Osborn name is something I was thinking about for a long time. It's crazy we had the same idea. Great video btw
Bro I love the recurring f-bomb cut off joke
The fact this made me tear up multiple times speaks volumes on how good this is
We need a GoFundMe to make this an actual film trilogy.
That scene between Peter and Johnny actually made me tear up hearing it the second time, just imagine what Peter's thinking about.
I predicted from the beginning of Homecoming that Kraven was gonna kill Aunt May at the end of the high school trilogy. Interesting to see I was not that far off from the original plan.
Bruh, they should adapt this somehow, at least as a short comic run or somehow. They need to pay you for this. This is beautiful, I'm watching this even thought I've seen each part separately.
Im rewatching this for the 3rd time and the only problem with this is kraven's pride as a hunter wouldn't allow him to augment himself with any serum.I think after he finally loses his wife then he would take the animal Dna for himself out of desperation prove himself with nothing to lose
What if Kravin becomes the lizard
17:53
there is no way to explain the chills i got from this scene
Loved these the first time I watched them. And I’m sure I’m gonna love them even more this time! This whole trilogy is genuinely so impressive, I don’t usually cry from TH-cam videos so you’re doing something very right in my opinion
Another possible name for the first movie is ‘Spider-Man: Concrete Jungle’
As it will be set in New York and if they were to have a movie with Kraven as the villain hunting down Spider-Man’s and his animal based villains then you have
- Vulture
- Black Cat
- Scorpion
- Chameleon
- Tarantula
- Kangaroo
- Beetle
- Puma
- Jackal
- even Hammer Head technically
And new versions of Doctor Octopus, the Lizard and the Rhino or at least their normal identities
Chameleon is kravens brother kraven would not hunt his own brother
@@capybara455 I know they’re brothers but they could be antagonist to each other
Also I think I just put him there to make a point about how many animal themes Spider-Man villains there are
Spiderman: Zoo York
@@capybara455 Kraven would absolutely do that, you think the dude who hunts people for sport cares a ton about family?
This is really good holy shit I loved the idea that the black suit only augments peters darkest thoughts, not creates them out of nothing
I think that the grave idea is fantastic. It's so brutal that I think it would get the audience on Peter's side.
1:14:46 I genuinely thought you were going to say "not a wall, not a man, *the* Wall"
Watched your original Spider-Man trilogy you did. Watched this video in one sitting and it still amazes me how well you've told Spider-Man's story. Been going through some rough patches in life. And this video reminded me to not give up and always be better.
AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES???? HOLY SHIT
edit: just watched the last part, I had a theory and a hope that if you did make more mcu spidey prewrites, that you would use the hobgoblin instead of the green goblin, and I'm glad to hear I may be right!
Hour and 45 minutes of peak
Well for my Spidey prewrite, I was thinking the villains for my trilogy would be Hobgoblin, Scorpion, and Alastair Smythe as the main recurring villain in the trilogy along with Fisk and Tombstone. Another potential villain that I would like to use is the Jackal. I would also like to introduce members of the Spider family too.
Thank so much, I'm probably too young to watching these videos, but what you've done for me, given me the courage to write my own silly stories. To learn more about writing, about myself is so important to me. So even if you don't care, even if you never see this, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Writing is amazing. Thoughtful, authentic writing can shape how you understand the world too. If it's something you're interested in, stick with it! There'll be slumps and maybe you'll have a block, or you could fall out of it entirely. But it's never too late to get back into an interest either.
Sorry, I don't mean to come off as preachy or patronizing, I just think it's wonderful that you've shared this. I hope you enjoy writing!
I’m genuinely loving this genre of video essay where it’s just canon-divergent, fix-it fan fiction wrapped up in audio/visual package.
It’s a format that’s able to combine the ideas and concepts that fan-author wants in a story with the actual narrative of the story they want to tell. The format seamlessly blends the two things together, which is nice since reading an author’s note in the middle of story feels like getting ripped back into reality, despite how much they may add to the overall narrative.
This is one of the best fanfiction stories i evet heard, this actually deserves to be turned into a movie, series, comic book, novel, anything. This is amazing and i thank you for this amazing creation. Thank you
These videos mean a lot to me, Troy. Thanks for this remastered version!
Alright, I'm sold. Sony should hire this dude as one of their writes for Spider-Man movies from this point forward.
15:12, one of the more appreciable aspects of Holland’s Peter is how easily he overpowers normal humans and how normally only other superhumans can overpower him, but most importantly how consistently it’s depicted.
Also, having Miles Warren be a source for various characters, super-criminals or otherwise, is a great way to explain how their are so many of them in the city (and if we take Hawkeye and She-Hulk’s depiction of both Kingpin and Daredevil’s physical capabilities, the former withstanding an explosion point-blank unscathed and the latter swinging down a parking structure as if he was Spiderman, it could be a way to logically explain how these two could display superhuman capabilities despite them supposedly being relatively normal humans. Kingpin especially would likely have access and a desire for superhuman attributes considering his line of work now being complicated by the surplus of supers in his universe, which he would likely need to compete with in order to remain relevant, and his previous defeats at the hands of Daredevil.). It could also be retroactively explained that Warren’s experiments are what created the spider that escaped and bit Peter (and later, the spider that bit Miles and perhaps other characters like Cindy Moon), personally connecting him and potentially all Spider-People in this universe to the antagonists, who are also subjects of Warren’s work, while also allowing them to otherwise remain random people that weren’t “destined” for those powers (both as a way to distinguish Holland’s Spiderman and any others in this continuity from Garfield’s, who was genetically compatible with the spider due to his father using his own genetic code in engineering the spider, not that I found that to be a flaw in that version of the character considering the plot points of Peter’s parents and origins in that series of films was intentionally designed to be a mystery to be unraveled)
1:36:56, Considering Gargan still hates Peter, knows his identity and still is a superhuman without his armor or Venom (same as Kravin), I would think he would still attempt to hold that over Peter in a moment of being subdued, still threaten to hunt his loved ones (a desperate and thoughtless play to control the situation just as he did when he was stabbed that he would likely be too frustrated and prideful to prevent himself from repeating again). Peter’s guilt would be the only thing stopping him from brutalizing or trying to intimidate Gargan into silence, but Gargan may just end up insulting him over being too weak (a triggering phrase considering Goblin spoke it too) to finish him off because it’ll make him feel bad and ruin that idilic heroic image he naively aspires towards (and after all, he’s already proven himself to fall short of any idillic image considering he already tried to kill him before, already gave into his emotions, so why stop now?) However, considering Johnny’s presence in the scene, this boy that perceives Spiderman as virtuous and worth admiring despite his mistakes (Gargan may even accuse Spiderman of having tried to kill him in front of Johnny to further upset Peter and filthy Johnny’s perception of his idol unless Peter were to reveal it first on his own terms), Peter may attempt to shut Gargan down a different way, by genuinely apologizing to him for losing control and critically injuring him, noting that nothing he can do would change that or help get rid of the hate and rage that motivates Gargan’s sadism and vengefulness, something that Peter himself has struggled with and that allows him to empathize with Gargan to a degree, but he refuses to be like Gargan, letting his own issues be an excuse to hurt others and trying to make them feel small and weak so that he can feel big and powerful, not anymore. Gargan can respond with confusion or perhaps frustration at not being able to affect Peter with his words like he did before, feeling robbed of the power he felt while Peter feared him or attempt to dismiss his apology as being so the child in the room praises him more (regarding the memorabilia littering the room), only for Peter to confirm it, but not for praise, but because he wants to set a good example for that child and for Spiderman to be someone worthy of praise (referring to how Gargan only pretended to be a hero for recognition, for himself). It can be a truly cathartic moment where this version of Peter truly embody the compassion and humility of Spiderman, something he couldn’t do on his own when facing Raimi’s Norman (who he seemingly conflates with his Goblin identity despite Norman actually having no control over his body until Peter cured him and demonstrated genuine confusion and remorse when he realized Goblin did something horrible without him even knowing it, making him just another of Goblin’s victims, an aspect of the story that feels unexplored for this Peter, who never really lost control to Venom the same way Raimi’s Peter lost control to his) or this story’s Kraven (who seemingly should have been a bigger threat considering he is also a superhuman with a vendetta against Peter that can actively locate Spiderman and has seen him without his suit), not just defeating a villain physically, but ideologically, something Spiderman in visual media hasn’t really gotten to do, even if it doesn’t ultimately resolve the continued threat of Gargan or Kraven knowing who Peter is (which can later lead to a Sinister Six that are a threat to both Spiderman and Peter, and by extension, any of his associates).
This video rocks I was enthralled the whole way. This format is so creative and your pitches are so dope chameleon as the puppet master and the way u did venom got me hype!!
RIP Harry. Died from "The great stare case of 23". He fell too soon😢
This is genuinely beautiful, great use of Peter’s lesser known emotions
I know I’ve seen the individual vids, but rewatching this makes me want to draw up a storm! Can listen to your rewrites hours at a time, Good work brodda
you should totally do a miles trilogy! i can see it all building ; and i’m more than interested
I have been lucky to be alive in watching all the Spider-Man media available and my god this trilogy exceeds everything I have ever saw on the character. It is the most relatable representation of this character that I have ever seen. Spider-Man truly represents hope an idea that no matter how much we are pushed down we keep fighting our way back up. I have recently moved to the US for my internship and have had problems lately, of course none to peters level but problems none the less and whenever I felt I was stuck I kept telling myself that the time to run is over it’s rather time to stand up to the world no matter how much it tries to pin us back down. I loved this video and honestly wish if I could direct this with the gentleman in the video playing a major role as a collaborator force because honestly this is the Spider-Man story that felt needed to be told. This video just made me realize how much I love Spider-Man and how important it has been through my life unconsciously for he’s been a force that drove me to never give up the part of realizing his anger and confessing his flaws to may genuinely struck and emotional core for I have struggled with that feeling for so so long and I believe that if this trilogy is ever made by gods grace it will indeed be one of the most meaningful pieces of work I have ever seen for a fictional character, truly I love Spider-Man but I am fortunate I am or anyone is not actually him but his spirit can live within us to never give up and do the right thing truly Stan lee though unintentional at first made a universal character.
The part at the end with JJJ actually made me cry. Why is this dude not working at marvel?