Pokémon That Get Worse When They Evolve
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Be nicer to Slaking, he's seen enough in life and now all he wants to do is eat snacks and watch TV till he dies from natural causes.
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Dusknoir only existing to make Dusclops better
It’s literally the same too because I really, really like dusknoirs design
Imagine they gave dusclops a good recovery move too 💀
You just don’t understand the power of the Ice Punch dusknoir tech /j
Duknoir... flew??? So dusclops could run
The only credit I can give to Dusknoir is that he was a menacing villain in Mystery Dungeon-Explorers of Sky
12:03 Freezai canonically died at the end of the video, that's why it cuts off.
The channel will now be taken over by his evil twin brother, Hotz, who only plays Randbats
You mean Coolai?
@@Pikesito Naw, Coolai is his cousin who does nuzlockes :P
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what about breezai, founder of national dex formats?
Slaking = Old guy who used to lift
Vigoroth = The same old guy in his peak
mustard now vs mustard then
The Oth had Vigor but now he's just Slaking
That's actually a smart way to think that
More like: adult who used to be an athlete in elementary and highschool and now is unemployed
slacking is good when you play randomizer since truant ability is replaced with others.
I like the Scyther dynamic where its evolutions maintain its total base stat. It so happened that Scizor turned out much better, but you can tell it was still designed so its pre-evolution was still a viable alternative.
Game Freak admmitting how busted Steel is. Doesnt even need a stat increase to be concidered an evolution. (Yeah I know Scyther is better sometimes/as a niche pick)
@@benross9174 scyther doggy
its been pretty strong in low tiers too since getting access to technician dual wingbeat!!
NGL when I first played silver I thought steel type was kinda weak, but then I started with Cyndaquil so I usually had an out
Really wish that Onix was buffed so that he could be in this dynamic too... Since his stats are currently bad.
A more minor thing in terms of why evolutions are usually better, but in later Gens (where Eviolite was recently introduced to begin with), Knock Off being such a good and common move makes the Pre-Evolutions more likely to be crippled by losing Eviolite compared to an Evolution which is relatively less impacted by item removal.
a thing to note, not all of these not fully evolved pokemon always used a Eviolite, Murkrow is already really frail so it would normally run a Focus Sash instead
They also added more ways to protect your items from Knock Off, such as Mega Evolutions and Z-Moves, which meant that they could switch into Knock Off. This was what made some of the Eviolite mons better in those generations. Then once they got removed, they fell off, letting their evolved counterparts surpass them again.
@@geometryemperor That reminds me of Dipplin having Sticky Hold which is a godsend on a pre-evolution like that to keep Eviolite. In its case, it's the better attacking stats, movepool, and even ability in Regenerator (most of the time) that put Hydrapple above its prevo.
@geometryemperor Knock-off really became rampant in gen 8 and 9 when there is no mega stones or z-crystal
Being a Slaking fan is hard, my favorite Pokemon ever constantly gets slandered because he likes to chill from time to time
And when I say “from time to time” I mean every other turn
As a slaking fan, do you also adore galarian wheezing?
As a Regigias fan I can sympathize
As an archeops fan i can sympathise
@@zelgiusthebrave1401 I appreciate what he try’s to do, but alas I am a smogonite
One unmentioned benefit of using Dusclops is that it can't be stopped with Fake out when setting up Trick room due to its Ghost typing. That is what put it in the spotlight for being a trick room user in the first place.
There is also speed differences that can come into play with using a trick room set up.
i've looked through the whole dex and have a few more fringe examples. haunter is technically viable because unlike gengar it didn't lose levitate which is extremely useful for it as a spinblocker, there's a case for basculin-blue stripe since it's faster than basculegion and has rock head so you don't die from two wave crashes, eevee used to have a niche with extreme evoboost shenanigans, meltan has magnet pull which is funny but technically a niche, base rotom is cool since it's faster and keeps its unique ghost/electric typing which is great with levitate, charjabug is obviously a premium funny button for doubles teams with battery, clamperl has a higher special attack than mega mewtwo y with deep sea tooth and access to shell smash, and doublade has no guard so if you wanna use aegislash but hate missing poltergeist that's an option. there's also some unique traits that some lines lose that aren't good but still cool, like how bagon has sheer force and dragon dance which is absolutely terrifying in lc, and numel has simple with access to curse, flame charge, amnesia, etc.
Doublade is definitely a good call, I remember eviolite doublade was meta for a while in gen 6
How about gen 7 Eevee? That damn evoboost made it more viable than all of its eeveelutions.
yeah I was shocked he didnt mention that. Eevee has had more VGC sucess than most Eevilutions
Could work but I'm pretty sure Sylveon has seen better overall usage than Eevee so the title technically wouldn't work
@@benross9174 Umbreon and Sylveon is definitely better but Espeon might also be better because most of the time eevee always has krookodile and Espeon in the back
Everyone knows the normal type is OP, one weakness, immune to ghost,neutral damage to most types
Also important to note that because of Item Clause in VGC, there is less opportunity cost in using an Eviolite Pokemon because better hold items might already have been used by other Pokemon on the team
Vigoroth: Absolute monster, shredding through teams
Slaking: *yawns and picks nose*
Waits for the poison, then clicks facade once. Insert nuke gif here
everybody has two slakoth evolutions in them:
He's not just going apeshit, he's going ATOMIC MONKEE
Put some respects for Magmortar, not every fire type can learn Thunderbolt
I like magmar better , Magmortar looks ugly to me.
Electavire can learn flamethrower , guess they want them to share those attacks.
When I was first learning about VGC, Prankster Tailwind was when I said to myself, "Hold on, maybe there's something to this doubles thing..."
Prankster tailwind was the moment I realised "I can sweep entire teams with this" .
You guys laugh at Dusknoir, his Ice Punch OHKOs Landorus Therian!1!1!1!1 SO META
Verlis reference I assume?
@@dankeykang8243it comes from a Reddit comment claiming to beat and make a “tryhard OU pro” rage by clicking dusknoir ice punch into lando and ohkoing. It’s been mocked a lot by competitive players because 1: The only way that ice punch could kill is if it crit 2: Elo based matchmaking means they were not fighting a Tryhard OU pro 3: It’s just really funny
Only in a critical hit tho
Tera Ice though…
You jest but back in gen 6 where me and my friends play multi every day, I made a brave dusknoir with brick break, ice punch, fire punch, trick room. Every turn it kills a garchomp/tyranitar because no one cares about that thing.
Gligar and golbat are great examples of this in GO because they have more bulk proportional their stat totals than their evolutions, which is the most important thing stat wise in GO
Honorable shoutout goes to diglett: it's not better than dugtrio at all but it did get usage when dugtrio was suspect tested (gen 7 i think?) on a separate ladder where it was banned so people used diglett instead. Turned out that diglett got rid of heatran and other stallbreakers just fine and so we had to come to our senses and ban arena trap instead.
Garchomp's 102 speed is so incredibly powerful. If it had two less points it'd still be pretty good, but not entirely meta defining like it was for so long.
This is Slaking slander. This is insane.
Slaking will surely reply to this
...next turn
I mean, why do you think the video ended so abruptly. Slaking finished its loafing turn and snapped his neck.
I just love Eviolite as an item, giving some viability for the unevolved mons. I even remember one time seeing a defensive Seadra with Poison Point.
You did show a small g-corsola but probably didnt talk much about it because it's probably somewhat similar with porygon2.
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Wolfey used Haunter with Delcatty in a tournament
That team also used a gengar though
It's mostly because you can't run two Gengars in a team xD
Trapinch is an interesting case where it's a first in three evolution pokemon with a use case. It has Arena trap. Wolfy mentioned it being used in a regional.
I think its hilarious that since mega tyranitar is just a bigger Tyranitar with nothing unique to it aside from just hitting a bit harder than its base form and that makes it lesser than base Ttar, since it costs any other hold items
Mega ttar is a better ddancer. Higher speed and more defenses allow it set-up and sweep easily.
Mega Ttar is better rn in Natdex
That ending caught me off guard 😂
Its such a shame about Dusknoir since it looks so damn cool 🥶
Dusknoir has a soft spot in my heart too because of Pokémon mystery dungeon 😢
Uhh, Electivire being better than Electabuzz is debatable.
Electabuzz is faster, while it also has the same base special attack as Electivire. Very often, Electivire will enter the field, get hit because it's slower and accomplish nothing, or survive and then hit itself with recoil damage from Wild Charge or Supermeme Slam, accelerating the process anyway.
Meanwhile, Electabuzz can put its ok special attack to use thanks to its higher speed, to at the very least do some damage before it succumbs to anything.
They just fill two different niches. Electivire's is "Never ever use an electric attack against my team" and is a better wallbreaker than Electabuzz due to Bulk Up and stuff like that, while Electabuzz is definitely the better fast pivot
Hey, I saw that cheeky flip of the "less than" sign at the very end with Honchkrow and Murkrow!
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Imagine Coding A Whole New Evolution Making Model For The Pokémon Making A Move For It Just For The Pre-Evolution To Now Be Viable Cause Of Evolite
why do you capitalize every word
They Added Eviolite So The Old Models Still Have Use Tbf. They Also Really Like Syther So They Gave Him Same Total Base Stats As Scizor Because Syther Is Just So Sick.
@@ars.superstar Why*
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Ever since Eviolite was made in Gen 5, pre-evolutions have had many instances of being better than their more evolved forms due to the better bulk Eviolite offers over their further evolved forms.
But the buff to knock off in gen 6 made eviolite a bit more risky, if you're facing pokemon that commonly carry that move.
You forgot Mega Latios
Aside from gen 6, mega is better in every gen
Garchomp : gets +40 atk after mega evolving.
"He's going to be so powerful."
Also garchomp: gets -10 spe
"Nevermind he's just bad" .
Signature Freezai hard cut ending making its way over from the live channel
Gyrados, losing Magikarp beam really hurts it.
Dipplin is actually a really Great Wall with sticky hold eviolite
Apart from his weaknesses
idk how good or bad the line is, but I know the Scyther/Scizor/Kleavor group retains the same BST of 500 throughout all forms. How good are they all relative to each other?
Some of these mons definitely deserve a evolution branch to give them something new.
Give em the ol Frosslass
I will forever be using lucky punch chansey
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Haunter because it has levitate.
I love Slaking because he has a strength that i don't. But a spirit lazy as mine.
I expected deep sea tooth Clamperl in the honorable mentiones. I used to play a shell smash set with that item in gen 6 pu. It worked once every 10 games but when it did oh boy it was fun
The Phenomenon of Prankster Copycat Riolu💀💀
There's something a bit hilariously ironic about pikachu's being able to outperform raichu in terms of raw damage, while ultimately being the less viable option due to raichu's superior speed and skills apart from electrical attacks. I, and several people were introduced to raichu in the Electric Shock Showdown episode of the anime, which portrayed it as superior to pikachu in terms of raw damage, but ultimately got beat by pikachu due to pikachu's superior speed and skills apart from electrical attacks.
I guess the anime is an infamously poor lesson in how to play the games, recalling the Aim For The Horn incident, but still...
The biggest downgrade of Mega-Garchomp compared to regular Garchomp is that you cant improve on it visually. Regular Garchomp just looks perfect and fashion is more important than stats
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Mega Slowbro with a couple calm minds up and rest straight up doesn't die
Long, long ago when the rest of the ADV games weren't out yet and Gen III was only Ruby/Sapphire, Trapinch had a niche over Flygon in part because of its massive Attack stat and partly because it was the only Pokemon to have Arena Trap before Diglett/Dugtrio were made legal with FRLG
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It’s all because of that eveolite item. If it hadn’t existed,then things wouldn’t be so topsy turvy
Surprised you didn't mention Rhydon and Rhyperior, not even as a honorable mention
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Magmortar can be used in Gen 7 doubles with Mega Charizard Y.
Drought and Tailwind boosted Magmortar with Heat Wave is disgusting. Especially with life orb.
It's not a freezai video without mention of "heavy doody boots"
Girafarig could arguably be better than farigiraf as an offensive pokemon. It’s slightly faster and bulkier, and can use those to set up with nasty plot. Worse abilities than farigiraf, but I’ve used girafarig and it’s pretty ok
The ending just cutting off 💀
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It's crazy how good Trick Room and Tailwind are in Doubles, considering that they are generally seen as gimmicky and bad in singles.
Think it’s because they have imitate effects, as your other Pokemon can take advantage of it as soon as it’s on the field. Where in singles you need to switch out to use it.
Its funny, i thought of this exact thing a few days ago! Some others i came up with:
Pokemon that are better than one of its evolutions (Scyther maybe, though idk how strong Kleavor is)
Pokemon that are good in Little Cup, while their evolutions have no competitive use at all.
Imagine if there was an offensive Eviolite...
I don’t even have to watch the video to know dusknoir is on here.
4:18 Ah yes, the classic Electabuzz set. Follow Me, Follow Me, Follow Me, Follow Me.
Electabuzz is one of my favs, I used to use follow me, twave, volt switch, and either protect, taunt, a screen, or helping hand
I love Porygon 2. It was my very first CP trained Pokémon.
How to make unevolved mons better:
Step 1: Eviolite
Step 2:Give them Follow Me
Step 3. See that their unevolved stats are kinda bulky
And that's how you can do it.
(Bonus Steps:)
-Their unevolved stats kinda barely change after evolving
-Annoying at Stalling
-Bulky enough to eat hard-hitting attacks
-Busted Stall Options
It sounds like solid defense and support sometimes triumph over raw power.
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One thing not mentioned about electabuzz/vire is that even without eviolite in the picture, electabuzz is better at punishing physical attackers because it has static while electivire doesn't
It would be kinda cool if Truant healed you, and maybe even gave a random stat boost on turns where you loafed around.
Ursaring specifically in the pokebilities meta
You forgot one, Galarian Corsola
Even if it isn’t much better, it was used fairly often in early Sw/Sh before Knock Off came back in mass
Meanwhile, its evolution Cursola never saw any use, even during that period
he uses some footage of it in the beginning so i think it's included under 'defensive mons that like eviolite'
Magmar with a butt on his head or Magmortar with Krusty the Klown hair.
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5:40 Slowbro IS good, the playfield its on is unfair however. Id much rsther have a mega salamence or a mega kangashkan than a slowbro. So usage results are scewed due to oppurtunity cost
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My go-to has always been Eviolite Guts Gurdurr with Bulk Up, Drain Punch and Knock Off. I've gotten a number of sweeps with him
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Well, dusknoir is used as an offensive pokemon isnt worse than dusclops, its different
Mega garchomp just has a different role. It's not worse, it's different.
Garchomp is a fast sweeper with choice band/scarf or a sword dance set. Or he can be a defensive support with Rocky helmet/Leftovers and stealth rock.
But mega garchomp is a wall BREAKER. It's still fast enough that it will outspeed most defensive pokemon. And extremely bulky so it is hard to get rid of, especially for defensive pokemon. And you cant afford to wait for toxic to do the job, because it hits way too hard, both physcislly and specially.
And it has a great move pool to take advantage of its crazy stats. Stab earthquake and outrage, and then coverage moves like fire blast, Poison jab, Brick Break, iron head, shadow claw, crunch, stone edge. It even gets surf and Aqua tail. Somewhere in there is a move set that will hit your entire team for super effective damage.
Why doesn’t magmortar get mega launcher as an ability…. It literally has cannon for arms…
This along with an upgraded move pool to include a signature fire type pulse move 95 base power
Dark pulse, aura sphere for coverage and you now have a beast of a pokemon
Expected to see Mega Chomp. All other things aside, Mega Chomp having 92 base speed instead of 102 arguably singlehandedly made it worse than regular. If Garchomp had 99 base speed instead of 102, it does not get banned in gen 4. It also does not take until gen 9 to drop out of OU. Ground type STAB to hit steel was strong, but being able to outspeed the many base 100s (which include both Salamence and Flygon) made it nearly uncounterable in it's hayday. About the only thing Garchomp really feared were the Lati twins, and Weavile was set dependent and only semi-reliable. Weavile had a low chance to OHKO bulky Garchomp even with ice punch (virtually none without SR up) and would always be OHKOed back after rough skin with SR up. Garchomp with the Haxorus or Hydreigon treatment of a speed tier just slightly short isn't anywhere near the menace.
Pre-Soul Dew nerf the lati twins were entirely superior to their mega counterparts
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I think Togetic deserves an honorables mention as well. It deffintly is not better than Togekiss but there are ocasinal instances in doubles where Togetic fits on the team better than Togekiss does. Like hard trick room teams that only really needed the follow me support from it. It mostly just outclassed by clefairy more than it is by Togekiss
Magmar and Electabuzz's designs are also superior
remember mega evolutions
Haha for ninjask. Also, sad for ninjask
Eviolite made all these a debate
The best argument in favour of Magneton, Electabuzz and Magmar is that their evolutions are visually terrible by comparison
Would Slaking be more viable if it got U-turn or Flip turn or Parting Shot?
Definitely, which is probably why he doesn't have it. Absolutely broken stats otherwise
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Dusknoir exist so it can beat lando-T
Why are there blue question marks next to Scyther and Landorous Therian
So many people talk shit about MGarchomp but, much like MTtar, it's very well designed. They managed to create megas for pseudo-legendary mons without breaking the game, making their mega just a different way of using the mon, instead of the mandatory way. This is the perfect way to make a mega for an already strong Pokemon. Not looking at you MSalamence...
Does he know neutralize gas for slaking?
Oh hey 2 thumbnails. I clicked on the magmar one
Incredible as always.