To answer the question regarding white phosphorous, they're allowed to bring it under the pretense that it will only be used to clear foliage. It is absolutely used extensively against people, though.
White phosphorus is banned across the board under the Geneva Convention. I can personally vouch for the fact that the UK Armed Forces do not under any circumstances use white phos against people...
@@Scratch83 I don't claim knowledge of international law so this may well have been before WP munitions were banned but British troops made extensive use of them against Argentine troops in the Falklands War. That was however 40 years ago and in my lifetime the UK appears to have been pretty transparent on WP use
@@evilemuempire9550 no such thing. War is war. You do what you have to in order to survive. Nobody gives a fuck about a piece of paper when it's their life on the line.
@@colby1398 No you’re right, let’s plant land mines and gas civilians - all to survive - and medical personnel, might as well gun them down too - all to survive of course, because why should we punish people who cause unnecessary suffering largely on people who want nothing to do with the war?
I always had a WP grenade in our truck in Afghanistan . It was in case our truck/position was getting overran we could take all the hard drives and stack them over the engine block before putting the WP on top. It would deny the enemy of intel and the truck in case we were captured
When Tom and Simon played that I could only get half an episode in before I gave up on the series. Such an utterly boring game. Little hope was alright, but the ending was lame. This one feels a lot better so far.
@@Pistolsatsean highly doubt it each game seems to get sloppier and sloppier like they're rushing them out. This one does look like it has an interesting plot with some characters but im sure theyll fuck it up somehow
@@ahhhhyes It just seems lazy to be reusing characters…I guess it’s supposed to be like a common thread..? But it just seems horrendously lazy and immersion breakinf
Wish they weren't quite so clueless. Like being a military contractor that's spent significant time in your role, and asking a marine what "oorah" means. For anyone legitimately not familiar with the USMC, that's like a British race driver asking what the Nürburgring is
To be fair, when you're given the option to talk it's usually pretty evident that the game expects you to. You get a silent option for every dialogue and most of the time it's just awkward.
In addition, I feel like this is probably the first time in these games where the "say nothing" option has been, like, the best one to choose in an obvious way.
I just rewatched Little Hope to get ready for this series, they took the "Say Nothing" option a few times there. Simon caught on very early that intervening in the 1692 flashbacks would make ye olde characters look as though they were talking to thin air, "proving their guilt" (they had more faith in the story than it warranted in the end lol.) They also chose not to say anything once or twice in the 2020 timeline which worked well.
im actually surprised at how much the dialogue has improved for this game. most of the characters are unlikeable jerks, but they are characters and b3ehave consistently. even the weird humor is on point for the most part.
24:00 they have WP because the US armed forces claim to "only use it to deploy smokescreens" (which is not a war crime in itself) however there's been some instances of commanders in the field using it as an incendiary weapon (war crime) with the excuse "it's us or the enemy".
Didn't the air force also drop a couple of WP bombs on buildings too. Also the amount of fucking war crimes that happened in that war, the whole command of the US military should be in jail with like 3-4 presidents. I am pretty sure the first invasion front literally used plows on tanks to just bury people alive in their trenches and obliterating enemy posts so they didn't have to deal with surrender. The whole ware was just warcrimes from start to finish, hell people are still suffering there. The US airforce put out of commission civilian water treatment stations that are still out of commission to this day.
@@peter4210 Just during Obama's administration Israel was still using it near civilian rich targets despite being held to the Geneva convention just as we are. It was breaking news when I read it but I never heard anything about it again. I could have easily just not been paying attention.
cant wait for the enxt episode :D btw, there might have been clues about this game allready in man of medan been rewatching it and one of the newspapers there says a archeologist team has gone missing in the zagron mountains in iraq in 1947 :) (if youre curiouso yourself part 5 of toms playthrough at 8.20)
27:37 - Guys! guys! And what did Joey say Merwin's mum was good at? "Swallowing marines!" Cute wee foreshadowing that makes sense in context I'm having a lot more hope that this is going to be a better written piece with interesting characters, as opposed to those previous two unsubtle, stilted games
Ever since the first episode I've felt like this game's setting was inspired by how ISIL/ISIS actively and intentionally destroyed a huge number of ancient Babylonian & Assyrian archaeological sites and artifacts in 2015. A lot of those were around 3,000 years old and some of our best extant remains of those early human cultures. It's really gut-wrenching to think about how actions like that could permanently prevent us from ever learning things about the past. It's also interesting to see the comments on this episode digging in to the technical details about white phosphorus & war crimes from a more serious perspective as well. It definitely seems like it's open to some sketchy "accidents" but it also seems more firmly opposed than how riot police can use Tear Gas against their own citizens, but it's banned as a chemical weapon in warfare. That's still something in particular that never ceases to feel completely backwards. The way it doesn't really shy away from having a lot of the deeply frustrating and topically relevant things hopefully means that it indirectly helps conversations like this keep happening. It's pretty important to highlight real-world information like this from being just moved on from and left as-is. Even if you're just using it as a backdrop for a spooky fantasy story, sometimes that's enough to get people talking.
i feel like the game's setting is much more so inspired by how the US forces conducted looting and destruction of cultural artifacts in Iraq during the 2003 invasion, many museums were raided and artifacts lost for possibly forever due to the invasion
To be fair, a LOT Of what the police do and have feel completely backwards. When footage of the stuff they do makes vets go "Woah. That's excessive!" you know you have a problem.
@@moonjunk9054 Given the time that it's set in that's likely more the focus of the narrative. I think that the catalyst for the setting was probably how those ancient cities and artifacts were being intentionally bulldozed and jackhammered away though. That's why it has the "enemy of my enemy" perspective, because regardless of who's doing it - all of humanity loses when those things happen.
@@weezact7 There's definitely a lot of passive assimilation of pseudo-military capabilities that definitely needs to be reevaluated on a lot of levels. Especially in the US, but I think that there's plenty of room for that evaluation to look at how we operate as a society and what we prioritize. Police and their focus in general definitely needs to be redefined away from the "vigilante rogue detective" meets "no compromise tough-guy" stereotypes and very significantly refocused around something that serves a necessary community purpose. "Riot police" are a specialization as-is, but there are more useful types of specialization that would be beneficial (and probably wouldn't feel like they can get away with something that would otherwise be considered a war crime).
the actual Arabic dialogue is not as horrible as other games, but the Iraqi characters are speaking Egyptian dialect, that's like American characters all having Scottish accents
this game is really cool. i like the house assault scene; really digging this playthrough edit: i hate that all the weapons' sound like they're suppressed though. shit should be loud af
White Phosphorous is intended to be used as a marking grenade/smoke grenade, its smoke billows much faster than a standard smoke grenades, and is why they still use it in select cases
Using the White Phosphorus might have actually been the right thing to do. The alternative could have been shooting them and I'm guessing it reacts to specifically, the blood spilled.
@@moonjunk9054 Using white phosphorous against legitimate military targets or materiel is not a war crime, especially if it is intended to create smoke.
@@pagatryx5451 Yeah. Committing War Crimes is pretty low on the list of situations you want to be in, but it still trumps Supernatural Curses, Awakening Demons, and anything of that nature.
Can’t wait for the conclusion to be that the leader guy is reeling from PTSD after getting his wife killed on mission or something! God I’m hoping this one is actually supernatural.
Don't be silly. That Paizuzu was just the king in a costume after he went mad. We're going to find out at the end that it was all just fanfiction written by Zain and not only were the supernatural bits imaginary, so was the ENTIRE series of events.
I still don't get how this studio went from making Until Dawn, which was scary as balls, to a bunch of "It was all in your head the entire time" games that lack any tension. Like...the boat one was definitely the worst offender. I'm also hoping this has actual monsters and isn't some stupid psychological nonsense or drugs.
I bet it'll be a "How you see your enemy" kind of deal. Kind of like in that episode of Black Mirror (Men Against Fire), where everyone had brain implants which made the civilians look like ghouls. Also, Until Dawn had Sony as the publisher, whereas this Anthology has Bandai Namco as the publisher. Until Dawn definitely had more money, they even had Rami Malek (pre-Mr. Robot) and Hayden Panettiere (a while after Heroes) as voice actors. Would be nice to see them revisit actual supernatural horror though, rather than just psychological horror.
eh? Another playthrough I watched a little of A) they got to play as Salim before the copter got shot down B) dude complained they DIDN'T have WP Anyone know why this is so different? Because single player or something?
Not playing as Salim is definitely a single player thing, and while I get it would be weird it definitely feels like a lot is missing here. No idea about the willy pete though
@@cameronwilsey9334 The way I saw it, the commander tried to make Salim fire the rpg, but then did it himself, so I guess it ends up the same? But it's very weird to me, thanks for the answer!
White phosphorus isn't banned on the battle field entirely. It has non-lethal uses, for instance, smoke screens, bunker burning, marking targets, illumination etc. its use IS, however, banned against people and animals. This is why a soldier would have it on the battle field. But of course, at the macro level, you can't expect every individual in the military to make the right moral or legal decision, thus leading to its use against people that typically flys under the radar.
Halfway in and the main characters I already barely care about. Still better than the other two, and by far, but go back to the Akkadian and the other guy, they were cool.
I've never been in the service and even I know they're taking some liberties with this. The level of disrespect Merwin shows his superiors is staggering (correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Rachel is CO earlier that day?). And, while I imagine "your mom" jokes are fine when you're around the base on downtime, when you're in a briefing or on a mission, I'd hope there's a standard of professionalism that's expected to be maintained. To be fair, their officers don't seem to be that good at giving orders, either. "Spread out and Fight back" is PRETTY FUCKING vague. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone with actual experience in the armed forces can correct me. I'm sure a lot of armchair military personnel will.
The devs of the game are in Britain (apparently that circle with a question mark on Zain's map is the location of their offices), so I think there are some large pinches of salt to be taken in their portrayal of actual US military personnel and procedures. God knows how many inaccuracies there probably are about the portrayal of Iraq, but comes with the territory I guess.
@@MzyraJ didn’t even bother to get the us salute right. We dont do that inside of the hand shit lmao. Most of it is pretty wacky. Like that one girls piercings and chocker. Plus the leader with the fake leg. But i think its still a compelling story so I’m not too upset.
Ikr, it feels like the devs watched one war film and based the entire game on it. It's very hard to watch with the amount of ineptitude the soldiers seem to have.
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 703 Good old war crimes, always such a joy :D OoOo, ho ho ho, seems things are in motion :D excited I do like "Dad" I hope they keep him alive
Is it just me or does a lot of the Arabic being spoken here sound kinda...Egyptian? I don't have much experience with Iraqi Arabic at all, so I've no idea where to even begin with that, lol. 😅
Haha no I noticed it too. Mostly like, the camera jumps and stuff. It feels like how I normally play games (with slow internet and mega lag). Didnt expect it out of this game though.
I know it's a video game, but at that time the Iraqi's were using decades old AK's with burnt-out barrels with round counts in the 10's of thousands. There's essentially 0 chance they were laying down accurate fire from that far away on the mountainside. AK's aren't known for their accuracy even in the best of circumstances, that's kinda the price you pay for having very loose tolerances letting the gun run no matter how fucked up it gets.
I agree. The fact that the games are kinda shitty and every playthough someone does they all get to laugh at game is part of why I enjoy watching these.
I'm a lil disappointed they didn't use the likeness of the actual first recon marines in Iraq at the time, they were an interesting group of bad asses. Check out Generation Kill the book or HBO miniseries if you want to see their crazy story.
To put it in the way I was taught, "You can fix a bullet wound, you can't fix a chemical reaction burning through your body until it puts itself out while you scream in agony because you literally can't do anything about it." It's basically about not being unnecessarily cruel, or you know, acting civil. Not that it stops everyone.
I'm gonna choose not to watch this plathrough because i was in Iraq at this time and the flippant remarks about the war will just anger me. I totally get that the lads don't mean anything by it but I'd rather not put myself back there. I'll jump back in when the boys have finished and are onto a different game.
@@thefinal9923 I didn't realise it was actually set during the war. I thought it was just after and that it wouldn't involve some of the stuff that i suspect it might. It kinda caught me off guard thats all
Yeah, ultimately it's just a game that's a few hours of entertainment, nothing groundbreaking that's gonna outbalance tearing open old wounds for anyone with related history or trauma. Protect your mental health and come back when they're doing cthulhu stuff again or whatever's next.
My understanding is that it isn't a war crime to use WP. It's an incendiary and as such cannot be deployed where it might endanger civilians. Anything else is fair game. Think about it: it's ok to use a 500lbs JDAM but a 500g incendiary grenade is taboo? Nah.
Its a war crime to use WP on any person. there is a legal loophole that is exploited where you can use it on equipment and supplies, but WP is toxic so it just ends up killing people regardless. Oh and of course the US is immune to all international justice due to not being a part of the ICC and the Hague Invasion Act, so that loophole doesn't really matter anyway.
@@moonjunk9054 _"The 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons prohibits use of incendiaries against civilians and demands that forces using them against military targets take all available steps to avoid civilian casualties."_
@@moonjunk9054 No, it's not a chemical weapon. It's an incendiary. Your argument seems to be "It's a toxic chemical, so it's a chemical weapon". I think you're getting confused because when NATO or Israel use WP they say it's conventional, when others use it they condemn it as chemical. What constitutes a chemical weapon is well defined and WP is an incendiary, not chemical, weapon.
@@Thetruepianoman no there isn’t in order for there to be a crime it must violate an enforceable law. There war no laws the govern warfare with no power to enforce any even if they existed. Seriously kid this is basic. Stay in school.
@@samscholz5024 A crime just needs to be a punishable offence. Seeing as certain things have been agreed as immoral, through things like the Geneva convention, surely anything that goes against that is a war crime? Also, as a side note, if you're gonna be condescending and call me a kid, I'd double check to make sure what I wrote was comprehensive. Just so I didn't look a complete dickhead
@@Thetruepianoman nope not what a crime is parents punish actions all the time yet those actions taken by a child is not a crime. A simple treaty the nations voluntarily agree not to do doesn’t make those actions crimes. Because as I said there needs to be an authority with the power to enforce the law. There is no such authority for the Geneva convention. Again kid this is extremely basic. Stay in school, you are only making a fool of yourself with this nonsense.
@@samscholz5024 That's not the definition of a crime mate, Google it. Also stop insulting people's intelligence when you can barely construct a sentence
I dunno about Merwin's mom, but that statue is good at swallowing marines.
To answer the question regarding white phosphorous, they're allowed to bring it under the pretense that it will only be used to clear foliage.
It is absolutely used extensively against people, though.
smiley face
White phosphorus is banned across the board under the Geneva Convention. I can personally vouch for the fact that the UK Armed Forces do not under any circumstances use white phos against people...
@Scratch83 That's right, WP is banned by the UK 😉 and is never used in warfare 😉 against human targets 😉
@@Creamcups Do you have any actual experience or are you just making unfounded remarks based on stuff you heard on the internet?
@@Scratch83 I don't claim knowledge of international law so this may well have been before WP munitions were banned but British troops made extensive use of them against Argentine troops in the Falklands War. That was however 40 years ago and in my lifetime the UK appears to have been pretty transparent on WP use
That "roll and pick up the injured guy" move was the best part!
Until you remember they committed a war crime like 3 seconds earlier
@@evilemuempire9550 no such thing. War is war. You do what you have to in order to survive. Nobody gives a fuck about a piece of paper when it's their life on the line.
@@colby1398 No you’re right, let’s plant land mines and gas civilians - all to survive - and medical personnel, might as well gun them down too - all to survive of course, because why should we punish people who cause unnecessary suffering largely on people who want nothing to do with the war?
It's a real thing! not sure if youtube allows links, but here's a vid: th-cam.com/video/KPrATJ-u5Rg/w-d-xo.html
@@evilemuempire9550 And you remember that it was the best one.
The Welsh creature on the map is called an Afanc! It's a water demon that is half beaver and half crocodile
Big ol mouth and a beaver?
Sounds like Merwin's mom ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I always had a WP grenade in our truck in Afghanistan . It was in case our truck/position was getting overran we could take all the hard drives and stack them over the engine block before putting the WP on top. It would deny the enemy of intel and the truck in case we were captured
Beat me to it! I saw it and immediately remembered that silly bugger
So Tom and Simon didn't see this but the white phosphorous could be spotted in briefing room and eric can tell Merwin to leave it behind.
cool trivia, thanks
This one already feels more compelling than the stupid boat one
When Tom and Simon played that I could only get half an episode in before I gave up on the series. Such an utterly boring game. Little hope was alright, but the ending was lame. This one feels a lot better so far.
@@xaphyrthefirst5334 I agree, I found little hope interesting enough, hopefully we will be comparing this one to Until Dawn **crosses fingers**
@@Pistolsatsean highly doubt it each game seems to get sloppier and sloppier like they're rushing them out. This one does look like it has an interesting plot with some characters but im sure theyll fuck it up somehow
But the DRAMA!!
SHE DIDN'T HAVE A BOAT LICENSE!!!
@@ahhhhyes It just seems lazy to be reusing characters…I guess it’s supposed to be like a common thread..? But it just seems horrendously lazy and immersion breakinf
Good ol' war crimes. I loved playing this game, it's not so scary just good. Loved all the characters too for once
Jason was the Best
Wish they weren't quite so clueless.
Like being a military contractor that's spent significant time in your role, and asking a marine what "oorah" means. For anyone legitimately not familiar with the USMC, that's like a British race driver asking what the Nürburgring is
THEY SAID NOTHING LADS, THEY DID IT, TWO GAMES IN AND THEY REALIZED THEY COULD JUST *NOT* TALK!
To be fair, when you're given the option to talk it's usually pretty evident that the game expects you to. You get a silent option for every dialogue and most of the time it's just awkward.
In addition, I feel like this is probably the first time in these games where the "say nothing" option has been, like, the best one to choose in an obvious way.
I just rewatched Little Hope to get ready for this series, they took the "Say Nothing" option a few times there. Simon caught on very early that intervening in the 1692 flashbacks would make ye olde characters look as though they were talking to thin air, "proving their guilt" (they had more faith in the story than it warranted in the end lol.) They also chose not to say anything once or twice in the 2020 timeline which worked well.
Can't wait for the next episode where the marines use depleted uranium rounds
For some reason I saw this and all I could think about was the stories from the Korean War where they would run people's heads over with tanks.
Urah
Nothing about this video has been even vaguely realistic so far, I would hold my breath 😂
Holy heck Lt Jason really does look like the Scout from TF2.
im actually surprised at how much the dialogue has improved for this game. most of the characters are unlikeable jerks, but they are characters and b3ehave consistently. even the weird humor is on point for the most part.
24:00 they have WP because the US armed forces claim to "only use it to deploy smokescreens" (which is not a war crime in itself) however there's been some instances of commanders in the field using it as an incendiary weapon (war crime) with the excuse "it's us or the enemy".
To be fair, it’s survival.
Didn't the air force also drop a couple of WP bombs on buildings too.
Also the amount of fucking war crimes that happened in that war, the whole command of the US military should be in jail with like 3-4 presidents. I am pretty sure the first invasion front literally used plows on tanks to just bury people alive in their trenches and obliterating enemy posts so they didn't have to deal with surrender. The whole ware was just warcrimes from start to finish, hell people are still suffering there. The US airforce put out of commission civilian water treatment stations that are still out of commission to this day.
@@Tuturial464 That's maybe a valid argument if the enemy comes to your land and attacks you, not the other way around.
@@peter4210 Just during Obama's administration Israel was still using it near civilian rich targets despite being held to the Geneva convention just as we are. It was breaking news when I read it but I never heard anything about it again. I could have easily just not been paying attention.
@@kvasir7537 Technically if an enemy attacks first all war crimes are at their feet.
cant wait for the enxt episode :D btw, there might have been clues about this game allready in man of medan been rewatching it and one of the newspapers there says a archeologist team has gone missing in the zagron mountains in iraq in 1947 :) (if youre curiouso yourself part 5 of toms playthrough at 8.20)
I'm predicting the Riddle Bros will regret using their War Crime grenade on regular humans when the spookums come.
Tom: We're supposed to play our roles
Also tom: doesn't shoot civilians
yeah i thought these were suppost to be US soldiers, that's like the only thing they do
Bahahahaha this has layers
nice, berry political
I wish I could give you more thumbs up.
Damn, shout out to what i presume is the Lambton Worm. Never expected to see that.
27:37 - Guys! guys! And what did Joey say Merwin's mum was good at? "Swallowing marines!" Cute wee foreshadowing that makes sense in context
I'm having a lot more hope that this is going to be a better written piece with interesting characters, as opposed to those previous two unsubtle, stilted games
Watched for 20 minutes before I realised that by silo they meant missile silo and not some farm silo 🦆
lol WHERE'S THE WHEAT FOR MASS CONSUMPTION
I am getting so stressed out! And I love it! Since it's a game.
The council has decided! You are allowed to commit one war crime! ONLY ONE!
Ever since the first episode I've felt like this game's setting was inspired by how ISIL/ISIS actively and intentionally destroyed a huge number of ancient Babylonian & Assyrian archaeological sites and artifacts in 2015. A lot of those were around 3,000 years old and some of our best extant remains of those early human cultures. It's really gut-wrenching to think about how actions like that could permanently prevent us from ever learning things about the past.
It's also interesting to see the comments on this episode digging in to the technical details about white phosphorus & war crimes from a more serious perspective as well. It definitely seems like it's open to some sketchy "accidents" but it also seems more firmly opposed than how riot police can use Tear Gas against their own citizens, but it's banned as a chemical weapon in warfare. That's still something in particular that never ceases to feel completely backwards.
The way it doesn't really shy away from having a lot of the deeply frustrating and topically relevant things hopefully means that it indirectly helps conversations like this keep happening. It's pretty important to highlight real-world information like this from being just moved on from and left as-is. Even if you're just using it as a backdrop for a spooky fantasy story, sometimes that's enough to get people talking.
i feel like the game's setting is much more so inspired by how the US forces conducted looting and destruction of cultural artifacts in Iraq during the 2003 invasion, many museums were raided and artifacts lost for possibly forever due to the invasion
To be fair, a LOT Of what the police do and have feel completely backwards. When footage of the stuff they do makes vets go "Woah. That's excessive!" you know you have a problem.
@@moonjunk9054 Given the time that it's set in that's likely more the focus of the narrative. I think that the catalyst for the setting was probably how those ancient cities and artifacts were being intentionally bulldozed and jackhammered away though. That's why it has the "enemy of my enemy" perspective, because regardless of who's doing it - all of humanity loses when those things happen.
@@weezact7 There's definitely a lot of passive assimilation of pseudo-military capabilities that definitely needs to be reevaluated on a lot of levels. Especially in the US, but I think that there's plenty of room for that evaluation to look at how we operate as a society and what we prioritize.
Police and their focus in general definitely needs to be redefined away from the "vigilante rogue detective" meets "no compromise tough-guy" stereotypes and very significantly refocused around something that serves a necessary community purpose. "Riot police" are a specialization as-is, but there are more useful types of specialization that would be beneficial (and probably wouldn't feel like they can get away with something that would otherwise be considered a war crime).
@@moonjunk9054 Nothing to do with Hobby Lobby I'm sure :)))))))))
the actual Arabic dialogue is not as horrible as other games, but the Iraqi characters are speaking Egyptian dialect, that's like American characters all having Scottish accents
after actually watching the video, nah the Arabic is as shit as ever, like seriously game developers, just get an Arabic translation QA guy
'Not going to be able to make the convention. can't get a flight to Geneva'
- Little Wooden Boy, 1945
I can't get over how the game's lighting makes it look like SFM
If you play the two player version, player 2 controls the iraq army.
Big Lego Star Wars Episode III Chapter 6 energy
I love Tom and Simon's dynamic, they make these games so much more fun than they are.
Jesus christ, Merwin should stick to eating crayons
3:48 *Map of Britain and Ireland.
this game is really cool. i like the house assault scene; really digging this playthrough
edit: i hate that all the weapons' sound like they're suppressed though. shit should be loud af
Very suspicios hole placement. Probably hacks.
Part 2... it's here. I must prep. Grab the intoxicants.
Haha always enjoy these with a cold cider
Imagine missing out the Black Shuck from East Anglia :(
White Phosphorous is intended to be used as a marking grenade/smoke grenade, its smoke billows much faster than a standard smoke grenades, and is why they still use it in select cases
2:30 had me in stitches XD
The scariest part this far is the actions of the U.S. government.
I love Simon's commentary throughout this. He gives no shits about flaming crimes against humanity.
@@electronic_bunny Simon is a total chad
Simon shouting OORAH
5:08 crocodile beaver
Best content on TH-cam right now
I HAVE WAITED FOR SO LONG!
Forced to wonder what they played this on with some of those weird loading screens. Performance mode on Series X was pretty great, thankfully.
This game's plot holes and general jankiness and play perfectly into the Riddlebros' sass.
Haha exactly! They can make me enjoy almost any game!
Glad to see Tom and Simon together again
They literally circled the Kelpie statue outside Falkirk
Yes, it's odd that the holes opened where the largest amount of soil disturbance was at.
Very odd.
I think it was probably the blood.
yes the game actually makes no sense
Best WP scene is in Spec Ops The Line, change my mind
Using the White Phosphorus might have actually been the right thing to do. The alternative could have been shooting them and I'm guessing it reacts to specifically, the blood spilled.
under no circumstances is the war crime the right thing to do
@@moonjunk9054 What about in war crime simulator 2021?
@@moonjunk9054 I disagree. If that war crime stops an evil demon from being summoned, I sorta feel like it's the right thing to do.
@@moonjunk9054 Using white phosphorous against legitimate military targets or materiel is not a war crime, especially if it is intended to create smoke.
@@pagatryx5451 Yeah. Committing War Crimes is pretty low on the list of situations you want to be in, but it still trumps Supernatural Curses, Awakening Demons, and anything of that nature.
its general alarm!
these games are so unbelievably jank, I love it
Yes I have been waiting for this keep it coming!!
Merwin is easily inspired by Bill Paxton (Hudson) in Aliens.
Lol, Middlesbrough is on the map?!
Can’t wait for the conclusion to be that the leader guy is reeling from PTSD after getting his wife killed on mission or something!
God I’m hoping this one is actually supernatural.
Don't be silly. That Paizuzu was just the king in a costume after he went mad. We're going to find out at the end that it was all just fanfiction written by Zain and not only were the supernatural bits imaginary, so was the ENTIRE series of events.
I still don't get how this studio went from making Until Dawn, which was scary as balls, to a bunch of "It was all in your head the entire time" games that lack any tension.
Like...the boat one was definitely the worst offender.
I'm also hoping this has actual monsters and isn't some stupid psychological nonsense or drugs.
I bet it'll be a "How you see your enemy" kind of deal. Kind of like in that episode of Black Mirror (Men Against Fire), where everyone had brain implants which made the civilians look like ghouls.
Also, Until Dawn had Sony as the publisher, whereas this Anthology has Bandai Namco as the publisher. Until Dawn definitely had more money, they even had Rami Malek (pre-Mr. Robot) and Hayden Panettiere (a while after Heroes) as voice actors.
Would be nice to see them revisit actual supernatural horror though, rather than just psychological horror.
eh? Another playthrough I watched a little of
A) they got to play as Salim before the copter got shot down
B) dude complained they DIDN'T have WP
Anyone know why this is so different? Because single player or something?
Not playing as Salim is definitely a single player thing, and while I get it would be weird it definitely feels like a lot is missing here. No idea about the willy pete though
If you interact with the WP grenades in the briefing room you can stop them from bringing it to the mission
@@Creamcups Ah ok, thanks
@@cameronwilsey9334 The way I saw it, the commander tried to make Salim fire the rpg, but then did it himself, so I guess it ends up the same? But it's very weird to me, thanks for the answer!
Super heartbroken about IT boy, kinda hoping they do a replay with some different choices!!
You had me at warcrimes
I'm from bodmin and yeah it looks like they are marking the beast of bodmin lol
oh and we're in Cornwall btw
Wow, 20 minute episodes, no editing... We will be enjoying this until late 2022.
the US dident sign a lot of things fully, so its probably not a war crime for them
i wold say in the end is "they are now in DEEP shit"
this is sooooo good
love these videos
This is so good.
*Salim!*
Hot dang I'm hyped for this
I really hate that TH-cam translates Salim to Salem
By far the only redeamable and likeable character in the game.
White phosphorus isn't banned on the battle field entirely. It has non-lethal uses, for instance, smoke screens, bunker burning, marking targets, illumination etc. its use IS, however, banned against people and animals. This is why a soldier would have it on the battle field.
But of course, at the macro level, you can't expect every individual in the military to make the right moral or legal decision, thus leading to its use against people that typically flys under the radar.
num800 woo woo love to see u guys back together
Halfway in and the main characters I already barely care about. Still better than the other two, and by far, but go back to the Akkadian and the other guy, they were cool.
Oh no, he's been doing Gucci again
Yoooo riddle bros
I've never been in the service and even I know they're taking some liberties with this. The level of disrespect Merwin shows his superiors is staggering (correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Rachel is CO earlier that day?). And, while I imagine "your mom" jokes are fine when you're around the base on downtime, when you're in a briefing or on a mission, I'd hope there's a standard of professionalism that's expected to be maintained. To be fair, their officers don't seem to be that good at giving orders, either. "Spread out and Fight back" is PRETTY FUCKING vague.
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone with actual experience in the armed forces can correct me. I'm sure a lot of armchair military personnel will.
The devs of the game are in Britain (apparently that circle with a question mark on Zain's map is the location of their offices), so I think there are some large pinches of salt to be taken in their portrayal of actual US military personnel and procedures. God knows how many inaccuracies there probably are about the portrayal of Iraq, but comes with the territory I guess.
@@MzyraJ didn’t even bother to get the us salute right. We dont do that inside of the hand shit lmao. Most of it is pretty wacky. Like that one girls piercings and chocker. Plus the leader with the fake leg. But i think its still a compelling story so I’m not too upset.
Ikr, it feels like the devs watched one war film and based the entire game on it. It's very hard to watch with the amount of ineptitude the soldiers seem to have.
Wasn't expecting war simulator but Tom and Simon are keeping things fun until (hopefully) the space vampires show up
SIMON AND TOM IS WHY I RESUBSCRIBED!
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 703
Good old war crimes, always such a joy :D
OoOo, ho ho ho, seems things are in motion :D excited
I do like "Dad" I hope they keep him alive
Arabic is such a nice language
Can you save tech guy?
Is it just me or does a lot of the Arabic being spoken here sound kinda...Egyptian? I don't have much experience with Iraqi Arabic at all, so I've no idea where to even begin with that, lol. 😅
yeah it's 100% Egyptian dialect (i am Egyptian) without even a hint of Iraqi dialect
Who are you? Spiffing Brit?
Can you guys sit a bit closer together? Yea... Tom put your arm around Simon. Bffs. Maybe a lil smoochy?
Nice warcrimes
Game just looks so bad, luckily we have tom and simon banter to make these vids funny
Is the game really choppy in some parts or is it just me?
Haha no I noticed it too. Mostly like, the camera jumps and stuff. It feels like how I normally play games (with slow internet and mega lag). Didnt expect it out of this game though.
Fairly certain some parts of the game are intentionally run at lower framerate because some idiot decided that makes it more cinematic.
wooooooooooo
I know it's a video game, but at that time the Iraqi's were using decades old AK's with burnt-out barrels with round counts in the 10's of thousands. There's essentially 0 chance they were laying down accurate fire from that far away on the mountainside. AK's aren't known for their accuracy even in the best of circumstances, that's kinda the price you pay for having very loose tolerances letting the gun run no matter how fucked up it gets.
War crimes?! In Iraq?! By the US military?! Noooooo! No way! /s
I love you
Warcrime hour eh
these games are kinda ass but it adds to the charm 😅
I agree. The fact that the games are kinda shitty and every playthough someone does they all get to laugh at game is part of why I enjoy watching these.
these people are not marines
#teamseas
Everyone knows internationally-banned chemical weapons are standard issue for marines lol
Hey, rules don't apply to America!
Hoo boy, can't wait to see where this goes but this game is sure shaping up to be the biggest stinker of the trilogy thus far.
As far as I've heard, this one is the best so far.
@@mcmoozack here's hoping there's no rubbish twist this time 🤞
This interactive anime is a war crime in itself.
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Jesus the writing was done by a 12 year old who played a couple hours of a call of duty campaign.
Nah, that game is called Spec Ops: The Line.
I'm a lil disappointed they didn't use the likeness of the actual first recon marines in Iraq at the time, they were an interesting group of bad asses. Check out Generation Kill the book or HBO miniseries if you want to see their crazy story.
I never really understood why some weapons are banned. Burning bad, I get it, but I wouldn't feel good about getting shot either
To put it in the way I was taught, "You can fix a bullet wound, you can't fix a chemical reaction burning through your body until it puts itself out while you scream in agony because you literally can't do anything about it." It's basically about not being unnecessarily cruel, or you know, acting civil. Not that it stops everyone.
@@Guardsman_Shaxx fair enough. But when it's kill or be killed it's sort of a moral vacuum.
I'm gonna choose not to watch this plathrough because i was in Iraq at this time and the flippant remarks about the war will just anger me. I totally get that the lads don't mean anything by it but I'd rather not put myself back there. I'll jump back in when the boys have finished and are onto a different game.
Understandable but why did you comment this on episode two and not episode one?
@@thefinal9923 I didn't realise it was actually set during the war. I thought it was just after and that it wouldn't involve some of the stuff that i suspect it might. It kinda caught me off guard thats all
Maybe you can pickup after the focus switches to the ancient blood demon stuff instead of the war setup.
@@mcmoozack maybe
Yeah, ultimately it's just a game that's a few hours of entertainment, nothing groundbreaking that's gonna outbalance tearing open old wounds for anyone with related history or trauma. Protect your mental health and come back when they're doing cthulhu stuff again or whatever's next.
My understanding is that it isn't a war crime to use WP. It's an incendiary and as such cannot be deployed where it might endanger civilians. Anything else is fair game. Think about it: it's ok to use a 500lbs JDAM but a 500g incendiary grenade is taboo? Nah.
Its a war crime to use WP on any person. there is a legal loophole that is exploited where you can use it on equipment and supplies, but WP is toxic so it just ends up killing people regardless. Oh and of course the US is immune to all international justice due to not being a part of the ICC and the Hague Invasion Act, so that loophole doesn't really matter anyway.
@@moonjunk9054 _"The 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons prohibits use of incendiaries against civilians and demands that forces using them against military targets take all available steps to avoid civilian casualties."_
@@synchc WP is a chemical weapon, so it is banned under the chemical weapons section, not as an incendiary
@@moonjunk9054 No, it's not a chemical weapon. It's an incendiary. Your argument seems to be "It's a toxic chemical, so it's a chemical weapon".
I think you're getting confused because when NATO or Israel use WP they say it's conventional, when others use it they condemn it as chemical.
What constitutes a chemical weapon is well defined and WP is an incendiary, not chemical, weapon.
WP's status as a incendiary or chemical weapon depends on who's using it.
There is no such thing as war crimes.
Errr I think there is 😂
@@Thetruepianoman no there isn’t in order for there to be a crime it must violate an enforceable law. There war no laws the govern warfare with no power to enforce any even if they existed. Seriously kid this is basic. Stay in school.
@@samscholz5024 A crime just needs to be a punishable offence. Seeing as certain things have been agreed as immoral, through things like the Geneva convention, surely anything that goes against that is a war crime?
Also, as a side note, if you're gonna be condescending and call me a kid, I'd double check to make sure what I wrote was comprehensive. Just so I didn't look a complete dickhead
@@Thetruepianoman nope not what a crime is parents punish actions all the time yet those actions taken by a child is not a crime. A simple treaty the nations voluntarily agree not to do doesn’t make those actions crimes. Because as I said there needs to be an authority with the power to enforce the law. There is no such authority for the Geneva convention. Again kid this is extremely basic. Stay in school, you are only making a fool of yourself with this nonsense.
@@samscholz5024 That's not the definition of a crime mate, Google it.
Also stop insulting people's intelligence when you can barely construct a sentence