I recently bought the GoPro Hero 8 but it was a hard decision between it and the Osmo Action. To me, the sound and image quality are better on the H8. Hate the fisheye look and the H8 linear mode works well with other features. I was spooked hearing some H8’s froze while shooting but no problems so far. Don’t need a front facing screen, never shoot myself vlog style. Yes, the lens is not replaceable but I bought a great aluminum cage for $18 that protects the lens. I also can screw on ND filters as needed. Keeping my fingers crossed no major problems up ahead but am glad I made the decision for the Hero 8. Great review though!
i have the DJI action and the Hero 7 Black, the action I use way more often because, turning off of the hero is so painful you have to hold the button down for ages before it turns off the action is a simple 1 press on and 1 press off or quick record is even easier. Great content thanks
On the Hero 8, you can have the camera off and just press the record button and it will turn the camera on and record. Then press stop recording and it will turn off the camera. I wonder if the hero 7 can do that?
I'm amazed that the freeze issue isn't mentioned more often. With the media mod for an external mic, freezing is even more of a pain because to remove the battery, you first have to remove the camera from the mount, then remove the media mod, then remove and reinstall the battery, then put the camera back in the media mod and then put the camera back on the mount. Given the frequency with which this is necessary, I no longer use my Hero 8 at all.
Your personality is so quirky and it makes your channel so unique! I really enjoy your videos because you’re not afraid to be yourself and you’re not afraid to state your opinion. Thanks for being awesome and helping me get started in the action cam community!
I went with the DJI for the front screen, I do a lot of ride around videos (camera facing me and the road at different times). The front facing screen was a must have and Ive been very happy with it
Quick little tip: with the GoPro, if you hold the mode button and press the shutter button, you can go through your presets by pressing the mode button and to choose the preset, press the shutter button.
Best comparison man. This is the first video that I have watched from this channel.... but I am 100% sure that I will be here regular. You earned another subscription man. Very good content and execution. Keep it coming.... +1
Nice review, but think it’s fair to mention the extra functionality that GoPro labs brings with its QR code settings and delayed starts. As a user of both I agree the Osmo has the much nicer UI and screen. The GoPro interface is clunky in comparison, however for image whilst the osmo has better colours the Gopro has a lot more detail in the image. This is very noticeable for instance with grass and foliage. GoPro stabilisation is better, osmo now with less lag has less stabilisation as well. But... as you say both are great cameras, they just have different strengths.
Yeah, that button alone is a game changer! On GoPro, there’s a mode button, but the Osmo Action can actually cycle through your custom settings. Genius!!!
Hahaha! Bro, I would be so stoked if the first part of that were true! I can’t break in with GoPro or DJI. They won’t even send me cameras to review, I keep having to buy them myself😢
Wow. I literally just bought the dji osmo a few days ago. Today, I just realized that one of my favourite TH-camrs AKA David Manning claimed it to be his favourite.
Had an Osmo Action from launch and have loved watching it get better and better with updates. And since the Gopro Hero 8 came out with a non replacement lens cover, it's just a no brainer to me. Osmo Action every time for me. 👍
Actually I also did a test video about the Osmo Action two weeks ago and for me it failed. But my focus was on using the Osmo Action in a motovlog setup. The only thing where I see an advantage for the Osmo was the removable lens cover that you also mentioned. This is really a bummer on the Hero8. Regarding the field of view the Osmo not only misses the different options - especially the Super View - but it also massively crops in the picture if you enable Rock Steady. And even more if you also enable the mode to straighten the image. But this is also what you mentioned - you still would prefer the GoPro for POV shots which motovlogging is most of the times. The other bad thing for me was the mic adapter. And you need to know that I hate the one from the GoPro. But with its build in compressor and limiter it does a way better job with the microphone in my helmet than the one from the Osmo does. I also loved the size of the Osmo mic adapter. But as easy as it flips into the camera as easy it flips out of it. I really must fix it with a rubber band to prevent it from popping out of the camera while riding and ending up without my voice recorded. For the way you are using the camera I fully get you arguments. But for other use cases it can be totally different.
I think you're totally right and we don't have just one BEST camera yet! The Osmo Action is better for all around, but the GoPro has that Superview that's unmatched. For now unfortunately, I'll be using two action cameras!
Love my Osmo Action - does exactly what I need it to do when I need to do it, changed from GoPro after using them for years - had every model form GoPro Hero 2 up to Hero 7 for some reason I use the Osmo Action much more than I user the GoPro
David Manning was probably the last TH-camr I could see using the dji osmo action as his favourite action camera. Isn’t he the biggest GoPro fan out there?
The built-in lens cover is a deal breaker for me on the 8. My H7B has gone through 3 so far and I just use it for city cycling. I've since switched to the Osmo and love it. As for the mics, you have to use a foam wind screen on any action camera if used outdoors. I just use an external mic and sync in post. Great content and glad you picked the Osmo!
I agree with many of your points. If your not a critical professional, the gopro hero 8 is very easy to use. My family videos and daily adventures are stunning. The stock mic and image stabilization are great. Image quality and presets make it so simple so you can focus on your adventure vs fiddling with the settings and missing out.
As an owner of the 8, I love it and it's worked great for shooting our show footage. Anchor it with a Gorillapod and away I go! But last I saw, the 9 was going to be an updated Max with a better Hero mode so they only make one camera and solves the front screen issue!
The reasons I got the Action is due to 3 main things. First the front screen, yes GoPro has it, sort of, but it will run $160 total (the media mod and screen mod if it ever comes out). Second affordable mic adapter that works with the included cage, again GoPro media mod ($80) or their brick ($50) and the extra housing ($18). Third replaceable lens, this one is self explanatory. Not to mention I was not fond of the odd orange hue that the newer GoPro lines all seem to have, I don't know if that is just how people are grading their footage but it looks really off in a lot of videos I have seen. What I would LOVE to see in a v2 of this, or maybe a different model name, is a 1 inch sensor and swappable lenses, maybe call it the Osmo Director. Yeah it wouldn't be an action cam anymore but think of all the uses you could have with a small form factor mini DSLR-esk camera. And yes I got mine for $250 from Amazon. As for the lag I never notice it honestly, but I only use it to frame the shot and never really look at it beyond that.
After months of wishing I had the Hero8 (thanks David) I finally got one on sale during the Coronapocalypse and you go back to the Osmo? LoL! Somehow, I'm not mad. The audio, stabilization, and wide fov are worth it on the Hero8. If I need to film something where I need to monitor myself, I'll use my a6400.
You make this upgrade even more challenging with all of the information. I was just watching your video about the 360 camera versus the GoPro, and now this....tough decisions ahead
@Teyssere Photo I've got the Hero 9, pretty pleased with it, actually. My main selling point was the return to replaceable lens covers. I had some serious lens anxiety with the 8. Every Hero is a little buggy on launch day, so I expected that going in, but it works for everything I've asked it to do so far. What bugs were you running into?
Osmo Action and insta 360 One R are what I use. Insta 360 One R (4k, dual 360, 1 inch). The osmo action is just all around good camera. It can be used for Vlogging, Action, and some pretty good pics. I have variable ND filters 2-5 and 6-9 stops and a separate 10 stop for capturing long exposure shots. Also have polar pro ND/PL set and a brand new clear night filter which gets rid of some of the yellow tint from lights
A bluetooth remote control would be great for the Osmo Action like on the YI4K+ ! And to totally compete with the GoPro, they need to add the GPS feature.
Yeah, Google called me last night and were like, "Hey, can you whip up a good Osmo Action vs. GoPro 8 video? We've got Kai Sosceles and he's going to think about this tomorrow morning. We need to have it ready to go!" So here it is man! Google is in your brain👍
I fully agree, I acquired the Osmo for many of the same reasons and have learned to love it. The GoPro still has its advantages and I enjoy working with both. When I grow up maybe the 1inch Insta 360 R will be my new go to action camera...
Nice video man! This is exactly what I was looking for and it actually swayed me over to the hero 8 since mountain biking and motorcycling are going to be what I'll use it for the most and I love the superview. I was going to send it back and get an osmo but I think I'll keep it. Thanks!
Agree with everything you said except I have no problems ejecting the SD card. Man up haha! What I want for 2.0 is having the slight depth of field and auto focus from the Osmo Pocket! That would make it the greatest vlogging action cam in the history of mankind!
Nice vid! Is osmo extra battery available in the market? Is there also available charger for it? So it is already charged once inserted in the action cam.
You make some really great points. I have the gopro hero 8 with the media mod. Because I brought so many things for my gopro, it would be very expensive to change to the DJ camera. However if the upgrades in the future are big, I may just do the switch.
@@DavidManningvlog for now the gopro hero 8 is fine. I can't leave the country anyway due to this pandemic. By the time we can. I am sure I can justify upgrading my goPro or switching to DJ Osmo action. I am a huge fan of GoPro and REALLY hope they do a front facing camera and just leave the video mode for goPro Hero 8 buyers. Overall, I am happy with the GoPro Hero 8 and my mini vlogging set up. I shared this post to a friend who is looking in an action camera. As always, thanks for your valuable feedback.
Dude I was about to buy GoPro HERO8. But I watched this video few days ago and you made me go crazy, I spent my time with researching 😂 Now I‘m watching this again, I guess I’ll go with the DJI Osmo Action. I hope RockSteady will be enough for me and hopefully I won’t need the Superview. Thank you!
That was so much information! 9-14-20 two more days till Hero 9. Hurry up and do a review! There will always be a better camera! Thanks for bringing us up to date!
Loved the video!! I have a hero8 myself, but I haven’t tested out an ozmo action before. I do agree with the front screen and the easier operation with the ozmo action, but I do like the GoPro basic colour and personality I think the hero8 looks better. It was great having an insight on both, hope you have an amazing day.
Thanks Harry! I'm totally with you that the Hero 8 is incredible! And you're right, it's preference and a lot of people are going to prefer the look of the Hero 8. It for sure still has the mass appeal as a style
Hi David I have the Gopro 7 black which I love , but also today just ordered the DJI Osmo action camera combo for £329 ... 3 batteries plus charger and other mounts.... Didn't go for Gopro 8 for the fact you can't replace the screen.. great vid 👌
I just bought the Osmo for $200 with spare battery on BlackFriday, but I chose it over the Hero7 or 8 black because it was cheaper and because of all the points you laid out. The one thing I liked more on the GoPro was the built in feet/prongs for attachment. Having to stick the Osmo in a cage thingie is already annoying - as I'm literally now taking it out of the box and setting it up...
I say the best thing is that you can continue to use the dji Osmo for a long time with new software updates while the gopro you would have to buy a new camera every year for the better features. so much props to dji !
I've been thinking about the OSMO for a little while now, my hero 7 does nothing but piss me off! Every Fking time I get into a recording session the damn thing locks up, won't record, wont turn off. I'm so done with gopro because of this wide spread problem. Sure, when it works it's good, but when it don't........ I keep the battery door off the thing now cause it locks up so often! On the flip side, I think is OSMO is due for a hardware/mechanical update. We can do more in the same price range. But at $250.00, I think I'd grab an OSMO regardless.
This is a major reason I'm keen on using the Osmo Action more often. It just works. I've still yet to have it freeze up once on me and that's a big win over GoPro. As much as I love my GoPros, they sure have let me down at the worst possible times!
That's me, I have neither but was thinking of buying one. Even with the GoPro9 released, I still think the Action is my choice. $150 difference is huge and in addition to all the points you mentioned. Thanks for the specially informative video. Keep up the good work!
Loved the video. The Osmo Action has a lot of desirable features. Looks like it’s getting “mo better” with firmware updates. The physical button is really nice. I have the same issues with the touchscreen on the GoPro when I’m kayaking or canoeing and trying to make a quick setting change with wet hands. The baby oil comment made me LOL.
Just bought my osmo for 199 from 380. Pretty sweet deal I was considering getting a hero 7 silver as that was my budget, and then saw this “new” and bought it. Cant wait to get it.
What was cool was that after that first video, DJI Support actually reached out to me to get more input on the camera. So to see that they're responding directly to their customer base is AMAZING!!!
I've had the DJI in my amazon cart for a couple weeks now. I REALLY want it but I'm going to be super annoyed if I pull the trigger and have the Action 2 drop a month later.
Well after swallowing my last drink of KoolAide, the DJI looks badass now to me! All your points are very sharp. I want to add to the point of using the GoPro rear screen in the field- I put a glass screen saver on from the advice of many (and it already protected/saved the rear screen) BUT it is a real frustrating challenge to use the rear touch screen. I cannot change screens/menus on the first try ever. I have had to walk away in rage when I have missed so many shots because of this. I have XL hands and manipulating that rear screen, battery door and the frickin SD card. Forget it. I have to use an object for the SD no matter what. Thanks man for another bank account changing expose lol.
Hahahaa! It just felt like DJI looked at all the issues that us GoPro users were complaining about and then were like, "Here, we made this!" Hopefully they'll double down on 2.0, but for now it's a well spent $250!
Or maybe they was trying to use a lens that will not make it look so go pro ish Super wide would .ost definitely give that action cam look vs the wide cab give you a more pleasing a d cinematic look if thats what your going for.
I have learned the hard way that gear only matters to an extent. With what you have people say just go out and shoot with it, if you’re not satisfied with your work it’s clearly practice needed and not the gears fault. 😁
@@DavidManningvlog Honestly, i feel the media mod was dead on arrival because of the low quality "shotgun" mic, so maybe they are going to cut their losses on that one.
It's only 4 or 5 weeks to see what the GoPro Hero 9 has to offer. I don't have a use for an action camera in that interim time so I'll wait before deciding which one to get.
Hi David!! It is wrong what you said regarding the "switching" between presets and modes in gopro8! you CAN do it (when you are in the water) clicking simultaneously the two buttons available :) I have another question though... Is it normal to have some "dark stains" on the front screen of gopro hero8? they are visible especially under the sun light. Thanks
I would agree, but I think a better option is the insta 360 1r. It’s way better because it has 360. But the hero 8 is cheaper. On GoPro’s website it’s 250 if you get a free trial for GoPro plus. The GoPro display mod is coming out next month. I would still choose the hero 8 because of the presets. It makes such a difference. Love the vids!
Just ordered the GoPro 8. I really wanted to order the DJI Osmo Action camera, but when I went to Amazon I did what I always do before I buy a new product, read what the people that gave it one star has to say. There was two negative reviews that caught my attention above all other bad reviews and they were: 1. The device requires activated. Yes. Before you can use the device you have to go through a process to activate it (which the reviewers calls it a lengthy process) which requires setting up a DJI account. and 2. I wasted a couple hours on it, used up my "five attempts" and was left with an unusable camera. I'm not joking - the manufacturer gives you five attempts to start the camera up, install the software, and get it working. If you fail to do so, it shuts down and will not let you do anything. Okay, that second one was even more troubling for me. It appears that the camera literally gives you five attempts to activate it and if you fail the camera bricks itself, possibly making the only remedy sending it back for a full refund or an exchange unless a user doable solution exists for this type of issue. The fact that the DJI Osmo camera NEEDS activation before it can let you use it is troubling for me and its a deal-breaker for me. This is not worth the cheaper $249 you can get this camera on Amazon right now. I have always been fiercely against having my hardware disabled or locked out by software. It appears that on DJI's forums there are many people that come complaining that they are unable to use their DJI products before they can activate it. At the bare minimum, I would expect a camera I purchase to be ready to record or take pictures the MINUTE I insert an SD card in it and charge its battery or plug in a USB cable. PERIOD! I should not be expected to go thru an activation process with a ridiculous 5 attempts allowance before I can use the camera. I am not willing to own a device that is entirely at the control of the manufacturer, a device that perhaps in the future it can be arbitrarily disabled for many future reasons such as letting 3 firmware update pass by without installing an update -- let's face it, you won't be installing software updates/firmware updates all the time and each and every time a new update comes up for your camera, if the camera is working properly, there are no issues, chances are you are going to keep on using the camera without updating its firmware, in other words, you won't be fixing what is not broken at the risk of possibly introducing new bugs that weren't there in the first place, the only exception to this would be to have access to new features that was introduced with the new update that you care to have. Now, I am not saying that DJI does this or will be engaging on this type of behavior, but they already have full control over your device, control over your camera has been transferred from you (the owner) to the manufacturer (and I am so against this practice that I avoid any device like this out of principle alone), so it would not surprise me if in the future DJI starts disabling the Osmo Action camera until you install the latest firmware update after a certain firmware update has passed by without you checking for and installing the update. TLTR; 1. The Osmo Action Camera requires a forceful activation before you can use the camera. (If you think you can just insert an SD card, charge the battery, press record button right out of the box and have it record without activating anything, then this is not the camera for you). 2. The camera will brick itself if you were not successful at activating it within 5 attempts! (according to reviewers on Amazon) 3 The mandatory activation before you can use the camera was a deal-breaker for me worthy of completely ignoring how cheaper it is compared to the GoPro 8 that I decided to go with the GoPro 8.
well that's DJI being DJI, that 'activation' process is carried over from their drones, for drones yes i can understand the activation process, but for an action camera!? it should be ready to go out-of-the-box
I was on the fence of buying the Osmo but you've convinced me otherwise! Thank you so much for taking the time comment and help viewers such as myself make this decision. GoPro 8 here I come!
Can you replace the glass on go pro 8 camera if you scratch it? It is a action camera after all. Go pro has a ton of software issues . Enjoy being frozen 🤣🤣🤣
@@easonreddy9406 DJI violates one of my principles which makes it a deal-breaker for me. Because of this, I was unable to consider DJI's camera as a viable option for me. I really like to own whatever devices I purchase, and by owning it I mean to have complete control over it, that I can recover from any situation using only my hands and my knowledge and that I don't have to deal with the manufacturer forcefully, having to wait days or weeks to send a product back and get a replacement for many reasons that product reviewers claims, one being that they failed to "activate their DJI camera within 5 attempts", therefore, the camera bricks itself, the only remedy? send it back. Umm no way, I can't tolerate something like that from a product supposedly that I own, I understand if I were to lease it, I don't expect to have control over something I lease, but for a product that it is said I 100% own and that I funded entirely off my own money? Something like this better not happens, I would be fuming if a product that I purchased were to brick itself because I failed to activate it within 5 tries. At the same time, reviewers complain that DJI's activation process is faulty, bug-ridden, which increases the chances of it not succeeding within the "allowed5 tries". As of not being able to replace the glass if I were to accidentally break the glass. Yes I can, the following youtube video explains how to do it: th-cam.com/video/00ElFww19wU/w-d-xo.html The replacement lens protector cost $15 on the website referenced by that youtube, but I am pretty sure if I start looking for it on Ebay or Amason that I could find it cheaper, but $15 is affordable at least. Being a person that does computer repairs for a living, I already have all the tools in my shop that I would need in order to perform this type of replacement. As for you saying that the Go Pro can freeze up, yes I have heard of other TH-camrs complaining about that, but my personal take on that is that there are many factors that can create a freezer up video, one being a worned up Micro SD card. With the ability to record at 100 Mb/s that can prove to be too much for the Micro CD card (even the ones labeled as "extreme" especially if you have already been repeatedly using it a lot. At 100 Mb/s you are going to fill out a 256 GB Micro SD card in like 4 yo 8 hours worth of video and these cards do not take very well too many re-write cycles. Personally, in my option, recording at 50 Mb/s is more than enough, especially at 1080P, and with HEVC mode on its good enough even for 4K videos. so that's the setting that I am using, I purchased a 256 GB Extreme Sandisk Micro SD card right away to replace the included 32 GB extreme card and so far I haven't seen any issues.
My wishlist for Osmo Action 2.0 are physical remote control, wider view options, improve rocksteady, improve battery life, 32GB of internal storage, tripod thread build in, possibly more voice command control options like custom my own.
I'm with you on the remote control, wider view options, and internal storage, but no tripod thread for me please! I really dislike 1/4-20 on action cameras. They're just not as secure and can spin off
Hey David, what are your thoughts on the GoPro Webcam utility (currently in Beta) and that adding another functionality to the Hero8 over the Osmo Action?
aaaaaaaannd... go pro just released the 9th generation....
i still love my week old osmo action lol
Finally someone brings out the cons of the Osmo Action in his review
I recently bought the GoPro Hero 8 but it was a hard decision between it and the Osmo Action. To me, the sound and image quality are better on the H8. Hate the fisheye look and the H8 linear mode works well with other features. I was spooked hearing some H8’s froze while shooting but no problems so far. Don’t need a front facing screen, never shoot myself vlog style. Yes, the lens is not replaceable but I bought a great aluminum cage for $18 that protects the lens. I also can screw on ND filters as needed. Keeping my fingers crossed no major problems up ahead but am glad I made the decision for the Hero 8. Great review though!
Hero 8 better for low light. No need front screen if u don t like people to see u and the h8 is smaller.
i have the DJI action and the Hero 7 Black, the action I use way more often because, turning off of the hero is so painful you have to hold the button down for ages before it turns off the action is a simple 1 press on and 1 press off or quick record is even easier. Great content thanks
On the Hero 8, you can have the camera off and just press the record button and it will turn the camera on and record. Then press stop recording and it will turn off the camera. I wonder if the hero 7 can do that?
Just use voice control works great.
Just bought my Dji for 200 usd and I'm happy
Same here
Hey, how does it perform during vloging? Should I buy it for the same?
Same here, so far i am happy with it.
Do you guys think it’s still worth buying or is it too outdated? I don’t wanna get something that will not have accessories, spare parts, or updates.
Very good comparison. But the one point that makes OA a better camera when compared with GP8 or GP9 is the fact that it does not freeze.
That is a very important factor😬
I'm amazed that the freeze issue isn't mentioned more often. With the media mod for an external mic, freezing is even more of a pain because to remove the battery, you first have to remove the camera from the mount, then remove the media mod, then remove and reinstall the battery, then put the camera back in the media mod and then put the camera back on the mount. Given the frequency with which this is necessary, I no longer use my Hero 8 at all.
David, you’re quickly becoming my favorite TH-camr with your knowledge of these products & humor! 👍🏼
Thanks Rob! Stoked you're here man!
Your personality is so quirky and it makes your channel so unique! I really enjoy your videos because you’re not afraid to be yourself and you’re not afraid to state your opinion. Thanks for being awesome and helping me get started in the action cam community!
I went with the DJI for the front screen, I do a lot of ride around videos (camera facing me and the road at different times). The front facing screen was a must have and Ive been very happy with it
Quick little tip: with the GoPro, if you hold the mode button and press the shutter button, you can go through your presets by pressing the mode button and to choose the preset, press the shutter button.
I’m a musician, so I use a 2mm guitar pick to remove the SD card from the Osmo Action. The camera is brilliant and keeps improving.
Best comparison man. This is the first video that I have watched from this channel.... but I am 100% sure that I will be here regular. You earned another subscription man. Very good content and execution. Keep it coming.... +1
Nice review, but think it’s fair to mention the extra functionality that GoPro labs brings with its QR code settings and delayed starts. As a user of both I agree the Osmo has the much nicer UI and screen. The GoPro interface is clunky in comparison, however for image whilst the osmo has better colours the Gopro has a lot more detail in the image. This is very noticeable for instance with grass and foliage. GoPro stabilisation is better, osmo now with less lag has less stabilisation as well. But... as you say both are great cameras, they just have different strengths.
I know I'm not going buy a go pro. Everything you discribed about the OSMO ACTION is good enough for me.thanks guy. 👍
Can’t beat the QuickSwitch button, having all my modes available without looking at the screen helps get the right shoot everytime love my Osmo
Yeah, that button alone is a game changer! On GoPro, there’s a mode button, but the Osmo Action can actually cycle through your custom settings. Genius!!!
@@DavidManningvlog '
Gopro stopped paying for these smaller channels for positive feedback.. So now every reviewer with less than 200k subs is now being truthful.
Hahaha! Bro, I would be so stoked if the first part of that were true! I can’t break in with GoPro or DJI. They won’t even send me cameras to review, I keep having to buy them myself😢
@@DavidManningvlog What do you do with all those cameras ?
@@crazeeejoe return them😂
Can you please compare the hero 8, the osmo action and the insta360 one R please. Thank you.
Wow. I literally just bought the dji osmo a few days ago. Today, I just realized that one of my favourite TH-camrs AKA David Manning claimed it to be his favourite.
Yeah buddy! You’re going to love it!
Badass insult GoPro. I’m going to buy Osmo Action. Thanks for show us ... you the best. Thanks again!! More to come?
Using the door to remove and insert the SD Card is "door-ky"
I have absolutely no problem to remove the SD-Card without the door.
*door-key. 😄😄😄
I always look forward to the final clip of the video to see what you are going to mention or show. Great video, thank you!
Hahaha! Solid setup there at the end!
you are so underrated, should have millions subscribers
Had an Osmo Action from launch and have loved watching it get better and better with updates. And since the Gopro Hero 8 came out with a non replacement lens cover, it's just a no brainer to me. Osmo Action every time for me. 👍
Actually I also did a test video about the Osmo Action two weeks ago and for me it failed. But my focus was on using the Osmo Action in a motovlog setup.
The only thing where I see an advantage for the Osmo was the removable lens cover that you also mentioned. This is really a bummer on the Hero8.
Regarding the field of view the Osmo not only misses the different options - especially the Super View - but it also massively crops in the picture if you enable Rock Steady. And even more if you also enable the mode to straighten the image. But this is also what you mentioned - you still would prefer the GoPro for POV shots which motovlogging is most of the times.
The other bad thing for me was the mic adapter. And you need to know that I hate the one from the GoPro. But with its build in compressor and limiter it does a way better job with the microphone in my helmet than the one from the Osmo does. I also loved the size of the Osmo mic adapter. But as easy as it flips into the camera as easy it flips out of it. I really must fix it with a rubber band to prevent it from popping out of the camera while riding and ending up without my voice recorded.
For the way you are using the camera I fully get you arguments. But for other use cases it can be totally different.
I think you're totally right and we don't have just one BEST camera yet! The Osmo Action is better for all around, but the GoPro has that Superview that's unmatched. For now unfortunately, I'll be using two action cameras!
THIS JUST MADE MY DAYYYY I RECENTLY BAUGHT THE OSMO ACTION ALMOST A MONTH AGO AND IM SO GLAD I DID NOWW😍😍♥️♥️♥️
Do you make descent shots with it?
Shubce E yess i sure doo the updates just get better releasing its full potential
Just got a Hero 8 and can't wait to go out and film some adventures. Already doing some tests and posting on my channel.
You're going to love it Nick! It's incredible and I'm still going to be using it a ton. Let me know if you have any questions along the way!
@@DavidManningvlog Will do!
Love my Osmo Action - does exactly what I need it to do when I need to do it, changed from GoPro after using them for years - had every model form GoPro Hero 2 up to Hero 7 for some reason I use the Osmo Action much more than I user the GoPro
yooooo you’re voice suits the beat at 0:05 dude that was sick I thought you where gonna sing
David Manning was probably the last TH-camr I could see using the dji osmo action as his favourite action camera. Isn’t he the biggest GoPro fan out there?
The built-in lens cover is a deal breaker for me on the 8. My H7B has gone through 3 so far and I just use it for city cycling. I've since switched to the Osmo and love it.
As for the mics, you have to use a foam wind screen on any action camera if used outdoors. I just use an external mic and sync in post.
Great content and glad you picked the Osmo!
I agree with many of your points. If your not a critical professional, the gopro hero 8 is very easy to use. My family videos and daily adventures are stunning. The stock mic and image stabilization are great. Image quality and presets make it so simple so you can focus on your adventure vs fiddling with the settings and missing out.
I keep coming back to GoPro and Osmo action comparison videos..only to find and feel happy that Osmo action is better..Proud user of Osmo.
“You know he can’t hear you Dad, right?” My daughter walked by as I was watching this video. Apparently I was talking to you... 🤣
As an owner of the 8, I love it and it's worked great for shooting our show footage. Anchor it with a Gorillapod and away I go! But last I saw, the 9 was going to be an updated Max with a better Hero mode so they only make one camera and solves the front screen issue!
Dude, I would LOVE that!!! That’s what I said would be my perfect 360 camera!
So a lense switcher would be the game there correct?
@@DavidManningvlog I would absolutely trade or sell my 8 if that's the case!
The reasons I got the Action is due to 3 main things. First the front screen, yes GoPro has it, sort of, but it will run $160 total (the media mod and screen mod if it ever comes out). Second affordable mic adapter that works with the included cage, again GoPro media mod ($80) or their brick ($50) and the extra housing ($18). Third replaceable lens, this one is self explanatory. Not to mention I was not fond of the odd orange hue that the newer GoPro lines all seem to have, I don't know if that is just how people are grading their footage but it looks really off in a lot of videos I have seen. What I would LOVE to see in a v2 of this, or maybe a different model name, is a 1 inch sensor and swappable lenses, maybe call it the Osmo Director. Yeah it wouldn't be an action cam anymore but think of all the uses you could have with a small form factor mini DSLR-esk camera. And yes I got mine for $250 from Amazon. As for the lag I never notice it honestly, but I only use it to frame the shot and never really look at it beyond that.
After months of wishing I had the Hero8 (thanks David) I finally got one on sale during the Coronapocalypse and you go back to the Osmo? LoL! Somehow, I'm not mad. The audio, stabilization, and wide fov are worth it on the Hero8. If I need to film something where I need to monitor myself, I'll use my a6400.
Yep even before all the software updates the Osmo trumped the Gopro but with the updates, takes it to the next level 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
You make this upgrade even more challenging with all of the information. I was just watching your video about the 360 camera versus the GoPro, and now this....tough decisions ahead
Oh man, so many tough decisions! And it's really unique to each person. Unfortunately, we don't have one camera that can do it all yet!
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xD and seem like you end up with the 360.
anddddddddddd the Hero 9 has a front screen now hahaha
Andddddddddd all of gopro’s bugs
@Teyssere Photo I've got the Hero 9, pretty pleased with it, actually. My main selling point was the return to replaceable lens covers. I had some serious lens anxiety with the 8.
Every Hero is a little buggy on launch day, so I expected that going in, but it works for everything I've asked it to do so far. What bugs were you running into?
So for a motovlogging setup - mostly pov shots (helmet) which one should I buy ? Gopro hero8 ?
Osmo Action and insta 360 One R are what I use. Insta 360 One R (4k, dual 360, 1 inch). The osmo action is just all around good camera. It can be used for Vlogging, Action, and some pretty good pics. I have variable ND filters 2-5 and 6-9 stops and a separate 10 stop for capturing long exposure shots. Also have polar pro ND/PL set and a brand new clear night filter which gets rid of some of the yellow tint from lights
After seeing the max. The 9 will def have a front screen
9 is trash does nothing but freeze from the other reviews i saw
And it did
The prophecy is true!
A bluetooth remote control would be great for the Osmo Action like on the YI4K+ ! And to totally compete with the GoPro, they need to add the GPS feature.
Love the voices that you do “well it’s an action camera”
Hahaha! And you know the people I'm talking about!🤣
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I just got mine like 2 weeks ago for super good Amazon deal for only $183. Super stoked since I know this cam started like around $350
Whoah, I came to TH-cam to look for this exact topic and this was the first video on my feed--didn't even search. Crazy.
Yeah, Google called me last night and were like, "Hey, can you whip up a good Osmo Action vs. GoPro 8 video? We've got Kai Sosceles and he's going to think about this tomorrow morning. We need to have it ready to go!" So here it is man! Google is in your brain👍
Big Data is coming it’s way.....
I love the Osmo, I just started my channel to use the osmo
What is the name of osmo camera mike adaptor..i want to buy it too..can u show me
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honestly, you already solve behind my expectations in this 2 action camera, big thanks bro
I fully agree, I acquired the Osmo for many of the same reasons and have learned to love it. The GoPro still has its advantages and I enjoy working with both. When I grow up maybe the 1inch Insta 360 R will be my new go to action camera...
Had mine for about 9 months and I love it.
Nice video man! This is exactly what I was looking for and it actually swayed me over to the hero 8 since mountain biking and motorcycling are going to be what I'll use it for the most and I love the superview. I was going to send it back and get an osmo but I think I'll keep it. Thanks!
Good choice! (Even though Gopro could be better for the price)🙂 (also I'm going to get a hero 9 for Christmas)
Have both of them-they're great cameras). They fulfill each other during working. But mostly i use gopro Max.
Agree with everything you said except I have no problems ejecting the SD card. Man up haha! What I want for 2.0 is having the slight depth of field and auto focus from the Osmo Pocket! That would make it the greatest vlogging action cam in the history of mankind!
Regarding the QS button on the Osmo, you don't actually need it because the touch even works perfectly fine under water
Nice vid! Is osmo extra battery available in the market? Is there also available charger for it? So it is already charged once inserted in the action cam.
You make some really great points. I have the gopro hero 8 with the media mod. Because I brought so many things for my gopro, it would be very expensive to change to the DJ camera. However if the upgrades in the future are big, I may just do the switch.
Yeah, it’s for sure tough to make the switch once you get deep in the accessories!
Same bag of tricks here. I am mostly heavy on grip gear although.
@@DavidManningvlog for now the gopro hero 8 is fine. I can't leave the country anyway due to this pandemic. By the time we can. I am sure I can justify upgrading my goPro or switching to DJ Osmo action. I am a huge fan of GoPro and REALLY hope they do a front facing camera and just leave the video mode for goPro Hero 8 buyers. Overall, I am happy with the GoPro Hero 8 and my mini vlogging set up. I shared this post to a friend who is looking in an action camera. As always, thanks for your valuable feedback.
Dude I was about to buy GoPro HERO8. But I watched this video few days ago and you made me go crazy, I spent my time with researching 😂 Now I‘m watching this again, I guess I’ll go with the DJI Osmo Action. I hope RockSteady will be enough for me and hopefully I won’t need the Superview. Thank you!
It’s for sure the better camera experience, minus the missing Superview. I think you’ll be really stoked with the Osmo Action 👍
David Manning Thanks man, I appreciate it. I ordered it on Amazon. I love your content 📷
That was so much information! 9-14-20 two more days till Hero 9. Hurry up and do a review! There will always be a better camera! Thanks for bringing us up to date!
Loved the video!! I have a hero8 myself, but I haven’t tested out an ozmo action before. I do agree with the front screen and the easier operation with the ozmo action, but I do like the GoPro basic colour and personality I think the hero8 looks better. It was great having an insight on both, hope you have an amazing day.
Sorry for the spelling mistake 😅 *Osmo
Thanks Harry! I'm totally with you that the Hero 8 is incredible! And you're right, it's preference and a lot of people are going to prefer the look of the Hero 8. It for sure still has the mass appeal as a style
which action camera would you recommend for basic things like hiking, riding bikes at the beach, things like that? GoPro or DJI?
No GPS on the Osmo action though. GoPro hero9 looks interesting with the leaked front screen. Hopefully others follow insta360 with a 1”sensor
Hi David I have the Gopro 7 black which I love , but also today just ordered the DJI Osmo action camera combo for £329 ... 3 batteries plus charger and other mounts....
Didn't go for Gopro 8 for the fact you can't replace the screen.. great vid 👌
Will you do a video for best DJI Osmo Action settings like what you did for the GoPro Hero 8?
I just bought the Osmo for $200 with spare battery on BlackFriday, but I chose it over the Hero7 or 8 black because it was cheaper and because of all the points you laid out. The one thing I liked more on the GoPro was the built in feet/prongs for attachment. Having to stick the Osmo in a cage thingie is already annoying - as I'm literally now taking it out of the box and setting it up...
how have your cheap amazon GoPro accessories been doing one of my 1/4 20 to 3 prong GoPro mounts just cracked :( maybe an update video?
All of the accessories have been good except one of the screw pieces cracked. Other than that, everything else is good!
David I love your vids, I was thinking about buying a GoPro and still am and you've really covincted me! Thanks soooooo much!
Stoked to hear what you think!
I say the best thing is that you can continue to use the dji Osmo for a long time with new software updates while the gopro you would have to buy a new camera every year for the better features. so much props to dji !
Excellent comparison my man. Really appreciate the little nuances you cover, and I love your style! Will be checking out your other work for sure!
I've been thinking about the OSMO for a little while now, my hero 7 does nothing but piss me off! Every Fking time I get into a recording session the damn thing locks up, won't record, wont turn off. I'm so done with gopro because of this wide spread problem. Sure, when it works it's good, but when it don't........ I keep the battery door off the thing now cause it locks up so often! On the flip side, I think is OSMO is due for a hardware/mechanical update. We can do more in the same price range. But at $250.00, I think I'd grab an OSMO regardless.
This is a major reason I'm keen on using the Osmo Action more often. It just works. I've still yet to have it freeze up once on me and that's a big win over GoPro. As much as I love my GoPros, they sure have let me down at the worst possible times!
Personally, I wish they would make a non-waterproof version that vents out the bottom and doesn’t overheat.
That's me, I have neither but was thinking of buying one. Even with the GoPro9 released, I still think the Action is my choice. $150 difference is huge and in addition to all the points you mentioned. Thanks for the specially informative video. Keep up the good work!
Totally agree. Love my Osmo Action now. Great vid!!!
What do you think after using Osmo they solved their previous problems as he said or not?
@@mrht5600 Defiantly worth the buy in my opinion. I love mine. Had it a year now. The latest firmware looks after all the issues I had with it.
Loved the video. The Osmo Action has a lot of desirable features. Looks like it’s getting “mo better” with firmware updates. The physical button is really nice. I have the same issues with the touchscreen on the GoPro when I’m kayaking or canoeing and trying to make a quick setting change with wet hands. The baby oil comment made me LOL.
Just bought my osmo for 199 from 380.
Pretty sweet deal
I was considering getting a hero 7 silver as that was my budget, and then saw this “new” and bought it.
Cant wait to get it.
very informative. thanks David. I'm gonna buy OSMO ACTION.
Its looks like DJI listening to exactly what you said in the original comparison video! Nice vid man.
What was cool was that after that first video, DJI Support actually reached out to me to get more input on the camera. So to see that they're responding directly to their customer base is AMAZING!!!
I've had the DJI in my amazon cart for a couple weeks now. I REALLY want it but I'm going to be super annoyed if I pull the trigger and have the Action 2 drop a month later.
Yup, have been eagerly awaiting the same, switching over to DJI 2 from my dated GoPro 6 (but often tempted to pull the trigger on the DJI 1)
Same ! Any idea whats the tentative date for its launch ?
New Hero 8 webcam mode gives it some bonus points.
my Dji just came in yesterday , any tips for start up do i need to update it you think ? i got a bundle pack with 3 bats an accessories
I got mine a few weeks ago, you definitely want to download the DJI Mimo app and get the latest firmware as there's excellent updates.
Well after swallowing my last drink of KoolAide, the DJI looks badass now to me! All your points are very sharp. I want to add to the point of using the GoPro rear screen in the field- I put a glass screen saver on from the advice of many (and it already protected/saved the rear screen) BUT it is a real frustrating challenge to use the rear touch screen. I cannot change screens/menus on the first try ever. I have had to walk away in rage when I have missed so many shots because of this. I have XL hands and manipulating that rear screen, battery door and the frickin SD card. Forget it. I have to use an object for the SD no matter what. Thanks man for another bank account changing expose lol.
Hahahaa! It just felt like DJI looked at all the issues that us GoPro users were complaining about and then were like, "Here, we made this!" Hopefully they'll double down on 2.0, but for now it's a well spent $250!
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The audio produced by osmo action cannot beat gopro hero 8. And I don't want to attach stuff to my camera. Gorpo is still better for me
Built in audio, Hero 8 still has the slight edge 👊
Well
The cameras job is to capture video. Audio is just a plus with these things. If audio is more important,...
@@yourmommashouse hahahah
You just made me list my hero 8 for sale along with the media mod I never opened 🤓
Hero 9 came out with front screen ! :O
Thanks for the review. I love my DJI products, but not yet ready for an action cam upgrade. I am excited to see what the Osmo Action 2.0 will do.
Me thinks 2.0 is going to be smokin good 🔥
Number 5, it's also in the Gopro camera for some years now, it's linear mode.
Yeah, he totally didn't mention that. I almost only use the linear mode.
"I dunno why you'd be covered in baby oil but...good for you" cracked me up 😂
Same thing here LMAO... Also the "because this is America!" LOL
@@mjj.2019 I'm not going to double check, but to me it sounded like he said, 'Merica - which is even better!
If the DJI OSMO action comes out with SuperView then I would switch. I don’t understand how they built an action camera without a super wide angle?
Maybe the lenses have the super wide idk
Or maybe they was trying to use a lens that will not make it look so go pro ish
Super wide would .ost definitely give that action cam look vs the wide cab give you a more pleasing a d cinematic look if thats what your going for.
Great video. Any drawbacks on the lower res photo option with the Oslo Action? It's only around 12MP but Go Pro is upwards of 20MP.
Can you compare gopro 9 to osmo action?
I have learned the hard way that gear only matters to an extent. With what you have people say just go out and shoot with it, if you’re not satisfied with your work it’s clearly practice needed and not the gears fault. 😁
I agree a million percent Bobby! Gear can only take you so far!
They might put a front screen on the Hero 9 based on the FCC application, still rumors for now but fingers crossed! 🤞
How weird would that be though for the media mod?! They would kill their own product. I sure hope you’re right though!
@@DavidManningvlog Honestly, i feel the media mod was dead on arrival because of the low quality "shotgun" mic, so maybe they are going to cut their losses on that one.
It's only 4 or 5 weeks to see what the GoPro Hero 9 has to offer. I don't have a use for an action camera in that interim time so I'll wait before deciding which one to get.
Which of the two cameras do you think is better?
Just returned my GoPro as battery would not charge.....Got osmo coming tomorrow 😀
Mine shut down and wouldnt power on or charge for 24 hours.
Hi David!! It is wrong what you said regarding the "switching" between presets and modes in gopro8! you CAN do it (when you are in the water) clicking simultaneously the two buttons available :)
I have another question though... Is it normal to have some "dark stains" on the front screen of gopro hero8? they are visible especially under the sun light. Thanks
Glad someone else mentioned this. The 2 button control has always been available on GoPros including the Hero 8.
I would agree, but I think a better option is the insta 360 1r. It’s way better because it has 360. But the hero 8 is cheaper. On GoPro’s website it’s 250 if you get a free trial for GoPro plus. The GoPro display mod is coming out next month. I would still choose the hero 8 because of the presets. It makes such a difference. Love the vids!
Just ordered the GoPro 8.
I really wanted to order the DJI Osmo Action camera, but when I went to Amazon I did what I always do before I buy a new product, read what the people that gave it one star has to say. There was two negative reviews that caught my attention above all other bad reviews and they were:
1. The device requires activated. Yes. Before you can use the device you have to go through a process to activate it (which the reviewers calls it a lengthy process) which requires setting up a DJI account.
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2. I wasted a couple hours on it, used up my "five attempts" and was left with an unusable camera. I'm not joking - the manufacturer gives you five attempts to start the camera up, install the software, and get it working. If you fail to do so, it shuts down and will not let you do anything.
Okay, that second one was even more troubling for me. It appears that the camera literally gives you five attempts to activate it and if you fail the camera bricks itself, possibly making the only remedy sending it back for a full refund or an exchange unless a user doable solution exists for this type of issue.
The fact that the DJI Osmo camera NEEDS activation before it can let you use it is troubling for me and its a deal-breaker for me. This is not worth the cheaper $249 you can get this camera on Amazon right now. I have always been fiercely against having my hardware disabled or locked out by software. It appears that on DJI's forums there are many people that come complaining that they are unable to use their DJI products before they can activate it. At the bare minimum, I would expect a camera I purchase to be ready to record or take pictures the MINUTE I insert an SD card in it and charge its battery or plug in a USB cable. PERIOD! I should not be expected to go thru an activation process with a ridiculous 5 attempts allowance before I can use the camera.
I am not willing to own a device that is entirely at the control of the manufacturer, a device that perhaps in the future it can be arbitrarily disabled for many future reasons such as letting 3 firmware update pass by without installing an update -- let's face it, you won't be installing software updates/firmware updates all the time and each and every time a new update comes up for your camera, if the camera is working properly, there are no issues, chances are you are going to keep on using the camera without updating its firmware, in other words, you won't be fixing what is not broken at the risk of possibly introducing new bugs that weren't there in the first place, the only exception to this would be to have access to new features that was introduced with the new update that you care to have. Now, I am not saying that DJI does this or will be engaging on this type of behavior, but they already have full control over your device, control over your camera has been transferred from you (the owner) to the manufacturer (and I am so against this practice that I avoid any device like this out of principle alone), so it would not surprise me if in the future DJI starts disabling the Osmo Action camera until you install the latest firmware update after a certain firmware update has passed by without you checking for and installing the update.
TLTR;
1. The Osmo Action Camera requires a forceful activation before you can use the camera. (If you think you can just insert an SD card, charge the battery, press record button right out of the box and have it record without activating anything, then this is not the camera for you).
2. The camera will brick itself if you were not successful at activating it within 5 attempts! (according to reviewers on Amazon)
3 The mandatory activation before you can use the camera was a deal-breaker for me worthy of completely ignoring how cheaper it is compared to the GoPro 8 that I decided to go with the GoPro 8.
well that's DJI being DJI, that 'activation' process is carried over from their drones, for drones yes i can understand the activation process, but for an action camera!? it should be ready to go out-of-the-box
I was on the fence of buying the Osmo but you've convinced me otherwise! Thank you so much for taking the time comment and help viewers such as myself make this decision. GoPro 8 here I come!
Can you replace the glass on go pro 8 camera if you scratch it? It is a action camera after all. Go pro has a ton of software issues . Enjoy being frozen 🤣🤣🤣
@@easonreddy9406 DJI violates one of my principles which makes it a deal-breaker for me. Because of this, I was unable to consider DJI's camera as a viable option for me. I really like to own whatever devices I purchase, and by owning it I mean to have complete control over it, that I can recover from any situation using only my hands and my knowledge and that I don't have to deal with the manufacturer forcefully, having to wait days or weeks to send a product back and get a replacement for many reasons that product reviewers claims, one being that they failed to "activate their DJI camera within 5 attempts", therefore, the camera bricks itself, the only remedy? send it back. Umm no way, I can't tolerate something like that from a product supposedly that I own, I understand if I were to lease it, I don't expect to have control over something I lease, but for a product that it is said I 100% own and that I funded entirely off my own money? Something like this better not happens, I would be fuming if a product that I purchased were to brick itself because I failed to activate it within 5 tries.
At the same time, reviewers complain that DJI's activation process is faulty, bug-ridden, which increases the chances of it not succeeding within the "allowed5 tries".
As of not being able to replace the glass if I were to accidentally break the glass. Yes I can, the following youtube video explains how to do it:
th-cam.com/video/00ElFww19wU/w-d-xo.html
The replacement lens protector cost $15 on the website referenced by that youtube, but I am pretty sure if I start looking for it on Ebay or Amason that I could find it cheaper, but $15 is affordable at least. Being a person that does computer repairs for a living, I already have all the tools in my shop that I would need in order to perform this type of replacement.
As for you saying that the Go Pro can freeze up, yes I have heard of other TH-camrs complaining about that, but my personal take on that is that there are many factors that can create a freezer up video, one being a worned up Micro SD card. With the ability to record at 100 Mb/s that can prove to be too much for the Micro CD card (even the ones labeled as "extreme" especially if you have already been repeatedly using it a lot. At 100 Mb/s you are going to fill out a 256 GB Micro SD card in like 4 yo 8 hours worth of video and these cards do not take very well too many re-write cycles. Personally, in my option, recording at 50 Mb/s is more than enough, especially at 1080P, and with HEVC mode on its good enough even for 4K videos. so that's the setting that I am using, I purchased a 256 GB Extreme Sandisk Micro SD card right away to replace the included 32 GB extreme card and so far I haven't seen any issues.
My wishlist for Osmo Action 2.0 are physical remote control, wider view options, improve rocksteady, improve battery life, 32GB of internal storage, tripod thread build in, possibly more voice command control options like custom my own.
I'm with you on the remote control, wider view options, and internal storage, but no tripod thread for me please! I really dislike 1/4-20 on action cameras. They're just not as secure and can spin off
Hey David, what are your thoughts on the GoPro Webcam utility (currently in Beta) and that adding another functionality to the Hero8 over the Osmo Action?
Webcam mode works flawlessly on my mid 2014 MBP