3 years later this is probably by far one of the best podcasts out there by two of the most humble players. I revisit this when I am having a bad day or week of playing poker to ground me and give me some reassurance it's not all linear.
Hey Ben, great conversation, one thing from a "city boy" who had cousins who grew up on a farm. I think you are under the impression that on the farm you are just kicked back swinging in a hammock. That is only the case if you are super wealthy, if you grow up on a working farm you are going to be busy from sun up to sun down. You learn how to work hard and work smart. You learn how to prioritize, because if you want time for your self, you have to get the farm work done quickly and correctly. (smile) I stayed on the farm for a few summers and it ws tough at the time. BUT I am so grateful for the experience, it really helped me to become who I am today. I had no idea Jason K was a country boy
Yeah... I think this is a super under-rated quality, so much content on YT is one person interrupting the other over and over again... It's nice to see each person finish their thought before the other person starts
Jason Koon's interview for the I Am High Stakes Poker (in 2018) was probably one of the best and deep interviews with an accomplished poker player I had ever seen and had a huge impact on my mindset. Since then, I always look up to Jason as a person and poker player. Amazing podcast episode, as usual, thank you!
This is the best interview I ever watched! I am questioning my personality, my actions and reactions. This is honestly a deep one. New subscriber for sure.
thanks ben and jason for tor taking your time and making this content. we young players and newcomers to the poker world and life in general really appreciate the wisdom you guys are sharing with us. much love. thanks RYE ! really quality content !
Just coming around to this video, great watch. I was on the beach w Koon in Melbourne after we both busted the Aussie Millions in 2012 and he was doing backflips while we had a convo about our biggest punts and future dreams. "We are gonna get there man" he said, referring to becoming the best in the game. What a privilege to have watched this guy do work over the last decade and a half and I'm sure there are many more highlight reel additions to come.
This is amazing thank you both so much for doing this... I loved the part about forgiving urself quicker n moving forward. I literally just went thru the same situation n hearing it from Jason is AMAZING... Thanks again
Great talk again. The psilocybin part that Jason brought up is spot on. The bad trips are the best, face your fears. They pulled me out of severe depression in 2015. But they are aren't for everyone don't expect a quick fix.
Great info.. only a few months into studying/playing seriously, and this is great, I've been leaning more towards playing as much volume as I can and playing at the limits then working on curbing bad habits/mistakes. It's all about communication, information, deception, but most people are straightforward so it's like listening to what they say and responding the best way.
@@TheFartBreakersNr1 impossible if you don’t manage your bankroll properly, sure. I’ve been fortunate enough to hit a pretty large score recently so I think with proper BRM it’s possible
Doug Polk's podcasts don't even come close to this level of conversation/interviewing. Good job Ben. Almost never interrupting your guests and when you do you apologize for it. Keep up the good work!
Great podcast once again, this is by far my favorite so far. It makes me realize a lot of stupid things I do when I play poker so I will try to be more mindful of that. I used to find that watching nose-bleed games and players massive successes discouraging because of my own small-time living at the game. So I stopped paying attention to that and focused on things more important, which helped a lot. Now it's shifted into watching bad regs streaming (and being honest about how good they are, but bad plays are bad plays), but having ridiculous 20k, 40k, or 100k days at times. Then of course when I lose my majors deep in unlucky spots it feels even more devastating. In general, I'm trying to stray away from focusing on other people's things and focus more on my own. As Jordan Peterson said, "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not who someone else is today." Hearing you guys talk about your upbringing and things you guys have had to work on is just fantastic. It really makes it down to earth and reminds me that there are a lot of things I need to improve on besides poker, especially not being too hard on one's self. I feel like I've aged too much from poker-induced stress. It's not good for the soul. So a very long-winded and probably douchey way of saying thanks for this podcast. Keep it up Benny boy.
This podcast was really enjoyable. Going through some struggles at the moment and pods like this always make me come out stronger. Thanks Ben and Jason :)
Fuuuuck, what Ben said about concentration really hit home. I’m writing this comment while working my job at my desk. I can NOT concentrate on work lately and I think it’s partly distaste for my job combined with social media addiction. ADHD doesn’t help either but I’m ready to overcome these obstacles and put in the work to be bored sometimes lol
Great podcast! Someone mentioned you becoming the Joe Rogan of poker podcasts and I actually had already thought about that before reading the comment. The thing that did it was how both you and JRE often (regardless of topic or guest) mentions good values, not being a victim, taking responsibility, staying healthy in mind and body etc. Thank you
Im going to try and enjoy the process of life. Whether it is becoming a poker pro, or anything else that life may offer to me. I can't explain in words the happiness that poker has already given me, such as routines, habits, role and inspiration models and I'm still playing micros. Bencb I hope one day I can meet you, it seems that you are a great person.
I recently found your channel and been binge watching these podcasts. You are an exceptional interviewer! Ps : has anyone said u look like Christian bale? 🤣
Jason...you're fairness is admirable...don't change homie...it feels like people do IFFFFFFFF they have to and are backed into a spot but I like to think you wouldn't. There isn't many of us....u know
@@RaiseYourEdge I saw both of your faces when bringing up the subject of ACR....I've been away from the game for a year...is it still as awful a place as the internet has?
hey ben, I dnt expect u to ever read this but as someone who has suffered in his early life from things that Jason alluded too, I just wanted to say i found this video incredibly inspirational. Seeing what a success he is and how he had to come thru a lot of personal growth to get there is really encouraging for those of us with a long way to go. I love ur content, its not only great for my game but it teaches one how to gto life - and long term thats more important. thanks. Im older then you and yet your one of my idols. gd luck
I can relate to Jason with the flight or fight responses. I've only really became aware about five years ago that it was a real problem ,that most people I've come across in my life don't act/react like that and i'm no spring chicken. React is the the key word I suppose. I'm trying to be more aware of my reacting instead of responding, however every time it happens now, i'm kicking myself because it seems to be outside of my control until it's happened and pretty quickly I realize what has transpired, but the reaction has already happened. I think that not beating yourself up over it is a good start. Jason seems far from what he's describing about his younger self and I admire him for being open about it!
1:26:00 so ... i believe mr coon is gg ambasador since some few months or near a year now .. did the threats & the banns for table selection t the winning players stoped ? can i play again ? does someone know ?
Just stumbled upon this interview right after the Bryn Kenney cheating shitstorm this week and it was the perfect episode to help me shake off the serious doubts I am starting to have in the poker community. Jason is such a great guy. You are doing amazing work Ben. Vielen Dank!!
Fun thing: started poker again after one year forced break. Up 20 stacks after a week and then this happend: Run 20!!! stacks under ev in 3 ours of playing. That all happened on mistakes plo5 card. But I keep going. This time there is only looking forward.
I agree most can’t become pro. Not because most will never have the ability, but because you have to be willing to lose it all. Most people don’t have the mindset to put it all on the line, then rebuild if it goes wrong
54 min mark: I believe Koon is talking about the hand he played vs. Jake Daniels on High Stakes Poker. Koon had QQ and Jake had KK (top set). The following hand Koon talks about is (I believe) Jake vs. Dwan. Jake had A9 for ace high into Dwan’s rivered flush (97dd). Could be completely off though..
Great video. He mentioned a couple of times that he played via ipad both cash and mtt. How does he do that? I thought top level sickos have a certain routine, play on pc with trackers etc.
Ben, ist die für uns sichtbare cam auch die, in der dich deine Gäste sehen? Ich finde die podcast persönlicher, wenn man dein Gesicht auch sieht und nicht diese roomcam. Die Körpersprache ist bei solch deepen talks sehr interessant. Keine Kritik, nur ein Verbesserungsvorschlag. Danke für den tollen podcast!
31:55 This is the reason I'm thinking about floating (in a sensory deprivation tank), I've been interested in meditation for years, but I still find it very hard to consistantly do it. Even when I know how much benifits it gives me! I've experienced them! It's still not a habit. I really want to make it a habit and and try out floating. I think it would be very interesting. Have you every considered floating Ben? If yes, why would you try it or why wouldn't you try it?
Ben seems to find solutions, i played poker for 15 years from nl100 to nl5k. To be honest in my option everyone i know like Viktor from nl200. Its a hard Grind, alot disciplin and Also good run.
@@explorerturk well, I see a difference between zero sum games and games in which everybody wins. If I box a friend, we're both getting out winners. We win experience and or the match. In poker one of us loses out on time and money (= time). Poker is like chess but weaker players don't realize it and challange grand masters. All in all I don't mind the sportive side of poker at all and if my friends are happy to lose their money to me I also don't mind. I'm just pointing out the predatory nature of poker. If you play tennis against a weaker friend you don't harm him, ya know. But again it's all good if your friend doesn't see losing money as harm.
@@shikeridoo We are not talking about our social friends or childhood friends. We are talking about opponents we face daily on poker games or tournaments here and there is almost no difference with any other sports. Small club goes against big club, inexperience boxer goes against champion. I don't see any difference here. Anyhow everyone is free to think how they like.
I disagree with that sentiment. Poker is glorified entertainer. When losing players lose, its not that they lose money and get nothing in return, they get gambling rushes and experience. It's like saying paying $12,000 for a superbowl ticket is a scam because you get nothing for it. Life is about experiences and we trade money for those experiences
3 years later this is probably by far one of the best podcasts out there by two of the most humble players. I revisit this when I am having a bad day or week of playing poker to ground me and give me some reassurance it's not all linear.
Hey Ben, great conversation, one thing from a "city boy" who had cousins who grew up on a farm. I think you are under the impression that on the farm you are just kicked back swinging in a hammock. That is only the case if you are super wealthy, if you grow up on a working farm you are going to be busy from sun up to sun down. You learn how to work hard and work smart. You learn how to prioritize, because if you want time for your self, you have to get the farm work done quickly and correctly. (smile) I stayed on the farm for a few summers and it ws tough at the time. BUT I am so grateful for the experience, it really helped me to become who I am today. I had no idea Jason K was a country boy
Ben listens well and knows NOT to interrupt during questions. Really enjoyable to watch.
Yes-Ben is Goated
is this sarcasm? he talks over his guests and drags his question all the time.
Yeah... I think this is a super under-rated quality, so much content on YT is one person interrupting the other over and over again... It's nice to see each person finish their thought before the other person starts
jason nailed it with 'getting lost in the game'. cheers
What an unbelievably insightful and valuable conversation. Thanks to both of you.
i love your user name. not a value sandwich, but a valuable sandwich
Jason Koon's interview for the I Am High Stakes Poker (in 2018) was probably one of the best and deep interviews with an accomplished poker player I had ever seen and had a huge impact on my mindset. Since then, I always look up to Jason as a person and poker player. Amazing podcast episode, as usual, thank you!
Glad to see Romanians saying and talking about intresting things , usuay its just not the case! Are you a poker player or you watch for fun?
This is the best interview I ever watched! I am questioning my personality, my actions and reactions. This is honestly a deep one. New subscriber for sure.
Ben is becoming the Joe Rogan of poker podcasting. Great stuff here - I enjoy this podcast so much it has become one of my favorites
big words! Thank you
@@RaiseYourEdge A good question was to ask him about his investments outside of poker
thanks ben and jason for tor taking your time and making this content. we young players and newcomers to the poker world and life in general really appreciate the wisdom you guys are sharing with us. much love. thanks RYE ! really quality content !
Just coming around to this video, great watch. I was on the beach w Koon in Melbourne after we both busted the Aussie Millions in 2012 and he was doing backflips while we had a convo about our biggest punts and future dreams. "We are gonna get there man" he said, referring to becoming the best in the game. What a privilege to have watched this guy do work over the last decade and a half and I'm sure there are many more highlight reel additions to come.
Cool story, dude really got there. What are you up to now?
Wrote that on my alt - still playing poker occasionally and battling in the high rollers :)
This is amazing thank you both so much for doing this... I loved the part about forgiving urself quicker n moving forward. I literally just went thru the same situation n hearing it from Jason is AMAZING... Thanks again
Only 50% of the way through the podcast....brilliant Ben, love listening to Jason Koon. Great guy.
Great talk again. The psilocybin part that Jason brought up is spot on. The bad trips are the best, face your fears. They pulled me out of severe depression in 2015. But they are aren't for everyone don't expect a quick fix.
wow one of the best pods i ever watched thx guys
Great info.. only a few months into studying/playing seriously, and this is great, I've been leaning more towards playing as much volume as I can and playing at the limits then working on curbing bad habits/mistakes.
It's all about communication, information, deception, but most people are straightforward so it's like listening to what they say and responding the best way.
Jason seems like a really good guy. I’m currently considering trying to play professionally so I appreciate this content a ton!
Go for it mate! Least you can look back and say you tried if it don’t work out
True but besides playing perfectly there is always luck involved and thats what makes it basically impossible to become a pro
@@TheFartBreakersNr1 impossible if you don’t manage your bankroll properly, sure. I’ve been fortunate enough to hit a pretty large score recently so I think with proper BRM it’s possible
@@TheFartBreakersNr1 nobody plays perfectly , and most likely never anyone will !
Had the pleasure of playing with JAKOON quite a few years ago now and he is genuinely one of the nicest blokes I've come across.
could listen all day to j koon and thats a rare thing. thank you all for the great potcast.
I would love you to interview Niklas Astedt "Lena900".
Does this guy still beating the game or was a very good player on a sick heater??
Just curious, have no idea what's going on..
@@kostaskonstantinidis7318 yeah hes still crushing
@@kostaskonstantinidis7318 Lena still pwning mtts
And linus too
Guys all the Winners are realy good.!!
Ben, thank you! Mr. Koon, admirable person u are, big fan of your mindset!
Thanks buddy!
This podcast was such a blessing for me. Thanks, guys. The general life commentary was spot on. Wish both of you the best.
Amazing pod cast not just on poker on life I had a lot of tragedy in my life and did not even relies that it was holding my back in so many ways 🙌🏻🔥
you gotta do a podcast with Lex
will come!
Doug Polk's podcasts don't even come close to this level of conversation/interviewing. Good job Ben. Almost never interrupting your guests and when you do you apologize for it. Keep up the good work!
Glad you like them Peter! Thanks!
Really enjoyed this convo... Not sure why it stood out from the endless poker interviews, but it did. Thanx Ben 🙏
Great podcast once again, this is by far my favorite so far. It makes me realize a lot of stupid things I do when I play poker so I will try to be more mindful of that. I used to find that watching nose-bleed games and players massive successes discouraging because of my own small-time living at the game. So I stopped paying attention to that and focused on things more important, which helped a lot. Now it's shifted into watching bad regs streaming (and being honest about how good they are, but bad plays are bad plays), but having ridiculous 20k, 40k, or 100k days at times. Then of course when I lose my majors deep in unlucky spots it feels even more devastating. In general, I'm trying to stray away from focusing on other people's things and focus more on my own. As Jordan Peterson said, "Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not who someone else is today." Hearing you guys talk about your upbringing and things you guys have had to work on is just fantastic. It really makes it down to earth and reminds me that there are a lot of things I need to improve on besides poker, especially not being too hard on one's self. I feel like I've aged too much from poker-induced stress. It's not good for the soul. So a very long-winded and probably douchey way of saying thanks for this podcast. Keep it up Benny boy.
great podcast guys really appreciate it
Thank you bud
This podcast was really enjoyable. Going through some struggles at the moment and pods like this always make me come out stronger. Thanks Ben and Jason :)
Fuuuuck, what Ben said about concentration really hit home. I’m writing this comment while working my job at my desk. I can NOT concentrate on work lately and I think it’s partly distaste for my job combined with social media addiction. ADHD doesn’t help either but I’m ready to overcome these obstacles and put in the work to be bored sometimes lol
lets do it man!
Great podcast once again. Really easy to listen to Jason talk. Thank you for the content, Ben.
Ben is a natural interviewer. Great content.
amazing talk between 2 very humble guys. Loved it ! More of this Ben plz !!
Dont know why, but i always perceived Jason as an aggressive american dude, but he is very cool, chill and down to earth. Great podcaast Ben!
The world needs more humans like Jason Koon
Wow, these podcasts are continuing to be really good! Thanks Ben.
Bencb to Jason Koon: "Sucking you out, time after time" 😮
Ben and his english😂
XDDDD
Excellent podcast. You're a natural, and Koon was a great guest.
2 of the best minds in the game
Thanks for these useful interviews btw, it's enjoyful to listen to it from start to end.
Great podcast! Someone mentioned you becoming the Joe Rogan of poker podcasts and I actually had already thought about that before reading the comment. The thing that did it was how both you and JRE often (regardless of topic or guest) mentions good values, not being a victim, taking responsibility, staying healthy in mind and body etc. Thank you
thats quite a compliment, thanks man!
Im going to try and enjoy the process of life. Whether it is becoming a poker pro, or anything else that life may offer to me. I can't explain in words the happiness that poker has already given me, such as routines, habits, role and inspiration models and I'm still playing micros. Bencb I hope one day I can meet you, it seems that you are a great person.
"was great talking to me..uh you..."hahahha that guy doesnt let jason talk...was fun to watch :)
This was an amazing interview.. I love Jason's candor. Thanks so much.
I recently found your channel and been binge watching these podcasts. You are an exceptional interviewer!
Ps : has anyone said u look like Christian bale? 🤣
one of your best podcasts - thanks
JKoon is a best. He should be the real role model for every aspiring poker player - and that includes me.
Amazing guy.
Jason...you're fairness is admirable...don't change homie...it feels like people do IFFFFFFFF they have to and are backed into a spot but I like to think you wouldn't. There isn't many of us....u know
Great guy for sure!
@@RaiseYourEdge I saw both of your faces when bringing up the subject of ACR....I've been away from the game for a year...is it still as awful a place as the internet has?
Deadly podcast, jason seems like a really humble dude
Man what an epic podcast! You guys had great synergy. Very enjoyable and informative at the same time. TY
hey ben, I dnt expect u to ever read this but as someone who has suffered in his early life from things that Jason alluded too, I just wanted to say i found this video incredibly inspirational. Seeing what a success he is and how he had to come thru a lot of personal growth to get there is really encouraging for those of us with a long way to go. I love ur content, its not only great for my game but it teaches one how to gto life - and long term thats more important. thanks. Im older then you and yet your one of my idols. gd luck
Jason Koon is one of those monster players. What a legend
I can relate to Jason with the flight or fight responses. I've only really became aware about five years ago that it was a real problem ,that most people I've come across in my life don't act/react like that and i'm no spring chicken. React is the the key word I suppose. I'm trying to be more aware of my reacting instead of responding, however every time it happens now, i'm kicking myself because it seems to be outside of my control until it's happened and pretty quickly I realize what has transpired, but the reaction has already happened. I think that not beating yourself up over it is a good start. Jason seems far from what he's describing about his younger self and I admire him for being open about it!
Another great conversation, thank you for the work!! Any chance to do the podcast with Dan Colman?
i know this will be good so i did pay my entrance with the like button!
i was not wrong, very good interview thank yopu to both of you
Now that I have seen the podcast my suggestion for a guest that I would like to see on the show is Jason Koon.
Great conversations from my two of my favorite players!
Hard deeds by Jason!!! ❤
Great Podcast.
1:26:00 so ... i believe mr coon is gg ambasador since some few months or near a year now .. did the threats & the banns for table selection t the winning players stoped ?
can i play again ? does someone know ?
How long did Koon have the virus for? I’m curious how severe it got for him and what his recovery was like.
Fantastic pod!!
This content is simply amazing..
What a demonstration of intelligence and self-awareness !
Speechless ! Keep it hot guys !!
Hey, about which book was ben talking at 29:27min ?
deep work
@@RaiseYourEdge awesome! Thank you Very Very much! Schönes Wochenende
Great content as always, thank you Ben!
My pleasure! I'm happy you liked it!
Great viideo !!! insightful content Benchy thank you !
Like in the dark.
Awesome video thanks for the content
Happy you enjoyed it :) Merry Christmas!
again ... ty for all the videos mr bencb
Great stuff , thanks !
1:14:20 - can someone please let me know what Ben said here? The first point? All I hear is 'microwave', then ICM, then PKO haha.
Nobody talks about the pain... loss.. well its part of the growth
Great content Ben, please keep It up
that was nice, thanks!!
Glad you liked it!
What an incredible amount of world class life- and poker content ☺♥
Just ran into this today, what an amazing podcast. Holy #$*&.
Same! Honestly the best I ever watched.
hab jetzt erst 20min geguckt und schon 7 mal werbung gehabt^^
sauber so muss das!
Just stumbled upon this interview right after the Bryn Kenney cheating shitstorm this week and it was the perfect episode to help me shake off the serious doubts I am starting to have in the poker community. Jason is such a great guy. You are doing amazing work Ben. Vielen Dank!!
Great to hear man
VERY nice&deep insight views, next Talkpartner Mr. Chidwick??, THAT would be very interesting too
You never know ;) Keep your eyes peeled! 🧡
theese questions are so good
Thanks for the content!
Is there a way to download the podcast to listen in the car ??
Wait wow what did he say at 1:47 ???
Thank you!
Fun thing: started poker again after one year forced break. Up 20 stacks after a week and then this happend:
Run 20!!! stacks under ev in 3 ours of playing. That all happened on mistakes plo5 card. But I keep going. This time there is only looking forward.
I agree most can’t become pro. Not because most will never have the ability, but because you have to be willing to lose it all. Most people don’t have the mindset to put it all on the line, then rebuild if it goes wrong
"Dont watch Netflix on the side" :)) epic one B!!! Love your roast rants on twitch, keep it as spicy as you can...
54 min mark: I believe Koon is talking about the hand he played vs. Jake Daniels on High Stakes Poker. Koon had QQ and Jake had KK (top set). The following hand Koon talks about is (I believe) Jake vs. Dwan. Jake had A9 for ace high into Dwan’s rivered flush (97dd). Could be completely off though..
Would love to see you talk to Charlie carrel!
Would love to have him on the show!
@@RaiseYourEdge and Nick Howard too would be great!
Great video. He mentioned a couple of times that he played via ipad both cash and mtt. How does he do that?
I thought top level sickos have a certain routine, play on pc with trackers etc.
If u play few tables in private games then you don't need t a tracker
Ben, ist die für uns sichtbare cam auch die, in der dich deine Gäste sehen? Ich finde die podcast persönlicher, wenn man dein Gesicht auch sieht und nicht diese roomcam. Die Körpersprache ist bei solch deepen talks sehr interessant. Keine Kritik, nur ein Verbesserungsvorschlag. Danke für den tollen podcast!
JKoon might be the GOAT when it's all said and done
31:55 This is the reason I'm thinking about floating (in a sensory deprivation tank), I've been interested in meditation for years, but I still find it very hard to consistantly do it. Even when I know how much benifits it gives me! I've experienced them! It's still not a habit. I really want to make it a habit and and try out floating. I think it would be very interesting.
Have you every considered floating Ben? If yes, why would you try it or why wouldn't you try it?
Life and poker just intertwine.
Hey Ben, when will u have a live show?
Soon!
@@RaiseYourEdge can you please show me the link your live?
I would like you to interview Daniel Craig. He is a great player.
Everyone should always play 75s out of position
You can’t let your identity as a person be your illness or tragedy, that’s just something that helped redirect you. -Jason Koon
Liked before I have listend! Love to see worldclass players on your podcast, so thats my suggestion!
awesome video ben!
Thanks!
Ben seems to find solutions, i played poker for 15 years from nl100 to nl5k.
To be honest in my option everyone i know like Viktor from nl200.
Its a hard Grind, alot disciplin and Also good run.
I fucking love Jason Koon. I have man love for Ben too and he knows that.
"I'm friends with these guys. Now all I have to do is learn the game" ... to take my friends money. Funny innit.
So you are saying professional boxers can't become friends after having a boxing match or a football player or any pro sport person?
@@explorerturk well, I see a difference between zero sum games and games in which everybody wins. If I box a friend, we're both getting out winners. We win experience and or the match. In poker one of us loses out on time and money (= time). Poker is like chess but weaker players don't realize it and challange grand masters. All in all I don't mind the sportive side of poker at all and if my friends are happy to lose their money to me I also don't mind. I'm just pointing out the predatory nature of poker. If you play tennis against a weaker friend you don't harm him, ya know. But again it's all good if your friend doesn't see losing money as harm.
@@shikeridoo We are not talking about our social friends or childhood friends. We are talking about opponents we face daily on poker games or tournaments here and there is almost no difference with any other sports. Small club goes against big club, inexperience boxer goes against champion. I don't see any difference here. Anyhow everyone is free to think how they like.
I disagree with that sentiment. Poker is glorified entertainer. When losing players lose, its not that they lose money and get nothing in return, they get gambling rushes and experience. It's like saying paying $12,000 for a superbowl ticket is a scam because you get nothing for it. Life is about experiences and we trade money for those experiences