Old World Alliance Starting Rosters - Blood Bowl 2020 (Bonehead Podcast)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- We’re looking at the best league starting rosters for the upcoming Blood Bowl 2020 rules change!
Let us know what you think - and who you want us to cover next!
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Gotta love me some bonehead Podcast when it's worth coming back to 10 month old videos for some strategic advice!
Old World Soup is def my fav list on here! Gives a ton of variety from the different races.
I will say I do think they lost a bit of flavour with normal human teams being able to take halflings. However this honestly seems like an easy fix. Just let Old World Alliance have one elf. Doesn't even have to be that good of an elf! Just having a member of the team Ag 2+ opens up a lot of interesting ideas and adds some more diversity to the OWA. Heck even in Blood Bowl Lore the Champions of Law had elf players!
I really like mixed teams so I always love the versions with as many positionals as possible. Sure theres some downsides but it's part of the fun of running mixed teams! I am the mixed team player in my area. Always show up with either Underwold, Chaos Rengases and now Old World Alliance!
Honestly I hope theres a couple more mixed teams down the pipeline for bloodbowl.
Ohhh I think we can be sure GW will do some more mixed boxes!! Undead & Necro will be utterly bomb!!
And yeah, getting an Elf or two would be huge!!
Well the BB2 mixed teams were approved by Games Workshop, we could see some kind of implementation of them. You can say the OWA is a tweaked version of the Alliance of Goodness.
@@HazelVandice True! That does give me more hope. I just don't really know what other mixed teams they could go for at this point. Chaos Renegades, Underworld Denizens and OWA cover a lot of the concepts. Unless they start doing stuff like maybe Amazons and Lizardmen I can't think of of mixed teams that could add a lot.
An elf one could be cool but we basically have that with Elf Union.
Any elf would be an amazing superstar on any other team. It would make OWA actually tier 1, but instead, we have a dwarf team with 2 fast players and a big guy...
@@MrMaxamumdes an All Greenskins team would add flair: Orcs, Goblins, Big Uns, Black Orcs, Snotlings, Hobgoblins, Ogre Runts, Trolls. Positionals amounts tweaked of course.
Love the show. I understand the confetti in the background is to keep the static image interesting, but the bobbing of the background photograph makes me feel sea sick
Hey Chrome - thank you so much for the feedback!
I've dulled and slowed all the backgrounds, so hopefully some of the later videos should be ok!
This is the team I'm most looking forward to playing as - I like the flavour. I prefer the tree over the Ogre; higher ST, AV, has stand firm already, and strong arm for 'fling flinging (PA for tree and Ogre is the same). I don't like the dwarf runner - loner ball carrier seems bad. So, I'm thinking:
140 - 2x RRs
120 - treeman
150 - 2x longbeards
200 - 4x linemen
80 - dwarf blitzer
90 - human blitzer
65 - human catcher
80 - human thrower
= 925k, which you could top off with a 3rd RR or two flings.
Alternatively, drop the thrower and a lineman in exchange for a fling and the slayer and get the 3rd RR, and build a runner; lineman, fling (surehands at 12spp) or catcher are all good candidates. This will limit your plays to running only, but the passing game won't be that strong with the thrower anyway. Lineman ball carrier avoids animosity, fling carrier with surehands, breaktackle (?!), and sure feet would be hilarious. Hand offs to the catcher is going to be a key strat for OWA.
"A-Team on the BB pitch." Haha I love it! Younger payers not gunna get that one. I assume BA Barrakas is the troll slayer, mohawk duh! =)
Is this any good as a 1 box team for a local league?
Been playing these in league (1w 3d) so thought I would add my 2p:
Start with 11 rostered (Inc a halfling) and get some dedicated fans - the team is pretty resilient so you should be ok
Always field the halfling (he is a blitz magnet which is great)
Take all positionals apart from the runner to start so you can start getting the spp from game 1
Roster the ogre and build the brawl around him with the dwarves, you won't be able to afford re-rolls to use on the tree if it roots and if that is turn one you are effectively down a player for the drive
Trust in brawler but do the brawler blocks after you have secured the ball instead of before (as you would if you had block)
The catcher is your star, get him blodge and start throwing him around like an elf, accept that he will be killed.
Try and level your thrower game one so you can get leader - you need the re-rolls for your offense which is a bit of a struggle at the start
Pro on the slayer is a must - helps with dauntless, surfing, GFI's and for the occasions where you double skull - go MB 2nd.
Don't take randoms on positionals, you only have one of each and you need them to be the best version of themselves
Now I have a use for my Blitz Ball 2 Dwarves. I should have thought of this sooner
Don't forget to find a Halfling too haha!
@@BoneheadPodcast already got them sorted: www.reddit.com/r/bloodbowl/comments/izguyq/introducing_my_first_ever_fully_painted_team_anus/?
I have to say that i tried a broken version of this team on BB2 (2 Dwarf blitzers and 2 Slayers and Three Blocker + rest hummies) and i have to say i don't like the difference of MV between humans and dwarves, caused a some losses against the A.I.
Like a worse Undead team 😅
So I just got into BB a couple months ago joining a league and chose these guys. Not gonna lie, i've had a horrible time with them so far and would not recommend them to new players.
That Dwarf heavy build looks very punchy, dangerous gamble possibly but that is the fun of the gamble surely?
Absolutely!! 😁
Maybe if they didn't have animosity or loner, they could be tier 1, but with both? I find it hard to believe
Yeah, they feel Tier 2, and I really think they’ll get outperformed by a lot T2 teams!
I'm brewing a new roster up for OWA for next season and torn between 1 of all the positional+3 rerolls.
Or max positional and 2 rerolls!
No big guy to start the season. Bringing one in would depend on how the teams plays for me.
Old world soup, replace ogre for a tree, upgrade a dwarf blocker to a dwarf blitzer.
Any chance of an updated list at all?
Hey Jonathan! Sure thing, which bit do you think needs updating?!
@@BoneheadPodcast thanks for replying, was just wondering did you make this list before the new core set came out? If so was thinking an updated list for that maybe?
I love the soup build, just maybe wouldnt go slayer i'd take the blitzer, ive been burnt by frenzy too many times and with loner i think the dwarf slayer is just too unreliable to take unfortunately :/
Haha there’s no room for your logic here 😉
The Bonehead Podcast oof ouch! :’)
There can't be too many teams left now.... so show us the changes to secret teams for 2020
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I don't understand why this teams human thrower costs exactly the same as the human teams thrower but throws on a 3+ instead of 2+ and has Animosity. Still it's far better than the Dwarf Runner. What is the point of this teams Dwarf Runner? Just look at the comparison between the Thrower and the Runner (Similar role gameplay wise):
Upside Runner:
- Thick Skull
- No Animosity
Upside Thrower:
- 5k cheaper
- Pass
- 3+ Pass instead of 4+
- No Loner
Why would you take the dwarf? Thick skull doesn't counteract all those drawbacks
The Runner is more reliable for the TTM hand-offs. That's about it. I'll be giving mine Hail Mary and sitting him deep for ball recovery.
@@brennand28 Why is he more reliable for the handoffs in your opinion? He also has Agi3, is the same speed and has Sure Hands. No difference there.
@@kuvuta The difference is no Animosity.
@@brennand28 Agree. But you often need to do GFIs with slow players for oneturn TTM. And then the Dwarf has Loner
@@kuvuta Understood. But you had failed to account for Animosity so I was correcting you. You were looking for a reason to take a Dwarf Runner, I've given you one. The difference is the GFI is a *possible* roll you have to make but the Animosity one is a definite. A marginal case perhaps and I won't include a Runner in my starting TV1000 build, but a case can be made.
My startup
Treeman
Dwarf blitzer
Slayer
2*dwarf blockers
Blitzer
Catcher
Thrower
2*halfling
Lineman
3rr
A million on the nose, you have every positional except dwarf runner (who is bad here imo) and 3 rerolls. You can fire the lings if you wanf to have free journeyman but i'd rather must buy them to not add more loner on the roster.
I, personally, dropped the slayer in old world soup for another halfling - gives 40k gold left over, buy an apo instantly next game
Do you really think people will take a random skill on a big guy? Wouldn't it be way better to wait for enough SPP to get Block?
You can get 3 random skills with the SPP it'd take for one double skill (and the random skills together cost 30k TV instead of the 40k for the double). That's a lot of chances for Guard (especially for Ogre/Tree who already start with Thick Skull).
@@bunbunkitten Hmm. That's an. Interesting way to look at it. For 20 SPP you can get Block and Guard or 4 random ST skills. It'll be interesting to see which adds more utility to your team. Definitely something to consider.
I really can! 3SPP for a cheeky upgrade *then* save up for the real skill!
The soup looks good. If you go heavy human or heavy dwarf IMO you lose the point of this team.
I would probably go Treeman, Dwarf Blitzer, 2x Blockers and TrollSlayer, Human Thrower, Blitzer, Catcher, 3x linos and 2 RR. It is 970. I can then buy the halfling or dedicated fans.
I agree that if this is a tier one, it is not one of the best....
This is the build. Shame we don't have a GW Tree yet to make it happen :(.
@@brennand28 I don't see it as much as a problem as an opportunity to find some other cool mini. I own 314 BB Teams and I can probably play 2 full roster teams of treemen against each other if I want to... :D
@@massimorolli4414 I'm trying to go 100% GW for my next teams. They make it hard!
@@brennand28 Good luck ;) . IMHO
it's not worth the effort.
i like old world soup but remove the halfing and blockers for the dwarf blitzer and 2 linemen
Going with the soup but a little different. I'm gonna drop the Slayer and the fourth Lineman and ad the dwarf blitzer and the human catcher instead.
Humans: Thrower, Catcher, Blitzer and 3 Lineman
Dwarfes: 2 Blocker, Blitzer
1 Oger and 1 Halfling
995'000
Ooh I like it! Bump up the speed!
If I wanted to play with dwarves this is the team I'd pick probably over chaos dwarves, I think straight dwarves is poorly designed.
OG Dwarves needed a little spice 😔 I’m really interested to see what Chaos Dwarves look like when they turn up!
You can have a roster with everything for 1000k. Well, except for bench, but it's easier to buy more 50k linemen after the first match than anything else.
210k reroll x 3
120k tree
150k dwarf blocker x 2
80k dwarf blitzer
95k dwarf slayer
90k human blitzer
65k human catcher
80k human thrower
60k fling x 2
50k human lineman
Of course, some issues here:
Tree rooting is awkward, but at least Timmm-ber means with 2 open assists, they get up most of the time.
2 flings is fragile, so just keep fouling until one of them gets whistled off, you can hide the other one.
Main ballcarrier having Animosity would be awkward, but your only related target are the flings/dwarf blitzer, so, uh, irrelevant.
There definitely is never a reason to NOT take the dwarf core, they're amazing. You just have to be conservative about how early you start blocking with them, because Loner. I do really wish there was a reason to pick the dwarf Runner as well, but beyond looking cute, there isn't.
Overall, compared to regular Humans, you're losing 2+ passing and cheap rerolls and access to 4 amazing Blitzers... in order to get three AV9 players and starting Frenzy, all with Loner. I really love the idea of the dwarf core, but this team is just overcosted on everything compared to what you get.
Firstly - the detail there is spot on 👌
Secondly... Halfling on the Human team makes OWA a bit of a “challenge team” like Khemri or Vamps I think!