Only argument I have with the 2nd tier...Middleton has been really good this year... BUT...Brodin plays against McDavid/MacKinnon...arguably the most underrated dman out there..
Malkin isn't worth any of our top prospects, he shows all the signs of just mailing in next season and retiring...he has nothing to motivate him to put in the work at 39 years old and his game will fall off a cliff...he has his cups, he has his milestones...
I agree, you cannot trade Rossi. The Wild finally draft a center and patiently wait while he gets healthy, he finally starts producing and they want to move on, not interested. I would pass on Malkin - too much tread on the tires. Ohgren is close ( we went to Iowa last weekend and he was by far the best player on the ice, both clubs). He just needs to play top 6 or 9 worse case scenario or leave him in Iowa. If you want to make a trade, there will only be so much room at the inn in St.Paul. Spacek, Lambos, Peart, all looked strong. Milne, Toporowski , Bankier all looked solid as well. Someone like Sammy Walker or a Haight potentially could be used as chips in a trade but stay away from the core right now. Sometimes the best trades are those not made, patience is a virtue. Wait until a few teams pull the plug on the season and the price will come down. Sweden keeping Ek and Brodin on their rosters tells me they think these guys are healthy come February. As for injures, tier 1, 97/32 tier 2, - 7, 12,46,47,5, tier 3,- 38,89, 22 etc.
@@briangeary7684 I think Point is a much better option than Malkin but still see the same problem with Point as you have, seemingly, with Rossi. Point is "ok" not great in the face-off dot. Rossi has much more ceiling available to improve there - he's currently on par with Point's level of success and players get better as they get older up to about where Point is right now. Rossi has an historically better plus/minus, certainly this year, so it's fair to say Rossi is more defensively minded (likely due to speed over Point). Both players have to be signed to longer term deals and very likely for a similar cost (but you could sign Rossi for less right now). The difference being Rossi won't "age out" of productivity if you sign him to an eight year deal, Point very likely would. So, while a much better option than Malkin, other than size, what do you get better on? Rossi hasn't realized his full potential.
@ ok, I was just throwing a name out there, thinking we’re keeping Rossi and adding depth. If that’s the case, how about Larkin from Detroit. 28, 52% Faceoff guy, disgruntled in Detroit? Not as easy as one would think after looking up a few players like Leo Carlsson, Sharks probably will not take offers on a 19 year old center, Dach, Suzuki, Barzal, Stutzle - all from teams sliding or maybe trading in a month or two. It’s hard because their stats are skewed when you’re on a shitty team. Who would you grab????
Why oh why oh why does Guerin want to trade Rossi? Malkin would be a HORRIBLE addition to this team. He's a THIRTY EIGHT years old and is a player who has been challenged to keep his emotions in check on the ice/sometimes takes dumb penalties. What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea, terrible. The idea that this would be a one-for-one trade is beyond laughably absurd. Malkin isn't worth Hunter Haight, let alone a top 2 C, scrappy, defensively responsible, net-front, scoring/passing center who will be here for years. How unbelievably foolish that trade would be.
@@thesotapod Agree, edited. I (erroneously) based my comments on a Capitals and Hurricanes hardcore fan I know who very much dislikes Malkin. My bad, I was wrong. Even so, he's 38. Veteran leadership is not lacking on this team - it is unfortunately present, though, in older players who no longer skate as well as their role demands (esp. Foligno but Spurgeon is showing some signs of age). Malkin is the same thing in a better forward role. I don't want Moose gone, and I'd be happy enough to have Malkin for a year but giving up Rossi for that is way overpaying.
Most depressing episode ever. You guys need to do a warning before the one. Not sure WTF you a thinking but a F’in injury tier list WTF then you double down with a trading Rossi topic.
Only argument I have with the 2nd tier...Middleton has been really good this year... BUT...Brodin plays against McDavid/MacKinnon...arguably the most underrated dman out there..
Brodin definitely deserves more praise
The skin color of your baby and Malkin actually fit well 😂
Appreciate you 🍻
Damn yall tempted fate with this one
Draft talk is a lot less fun when the Wild don't have a 1st. Maybe they'll get back in if/when they trade Rossi?
Maybe if it’s a summer deal right before the draft 🤔
Malkin isn't worth any of our top prospects, he shows all the signs of just mailing in next season and retiring...he has nothing to motivate him to put in the work at 39 years old and his game will fall off a cliff...he has his cups, he has his milestones...
More cups and more milestones 👀
I agree, you cannot trade Rossi. The Wild finally draft a center and patiently wait while he gets healthy, he finally starts producing and they want to move on, not interested. I would pass on Malkin - too much tread on the tires. Ohgren is close ( we went to Iowa last weekend and he was by far the best player on the ice, both clubs). He just needs to play top 6 or 9 worse case scenario or leave him in Iowa. If you want to make a trade, there will only be so much room at the inn in St.Paul. Spacek, Lambos, Peart, all looked strong. Milne, Toporowski , Bankier all looked solid as well. Someone like Sammy Walker or a Haight potentially could be used as chips in a trade but stay away from the core right now. Sometimes the best trades are those not made, patience is a virtue. Wait until a few teams pull the plug on the season and the price will come down. Sweden keeping Ek and Brodin on their rosters tells me they think these guys are healthy come February. As for injures, tier 1, 97/32 tier 2, - 7, 12,46,47,5, tier 3,- 38,89, 22 etc.
Appreciate the thoroughness! Anyone besides Malkin that would entice you?
@ someone like Braden Point from Tampa if they start to slide.
@@briangeary7684 I think Point is a much better option than Malkin but still see the same problem with Point as you have, seemingly, with Rossi. Point is "ok" not great in the face-off dot. Rossi has much more ceiling available to improve there - he's currently on par with Point's level of success and players get better as they get older up to about where Point is right now. Rossi has an historically better plus/minus, certainly this year, so it's fair to say Rossi is more defensively minded (likely due to speed over Point). Both players have to be signed to longer term deals and very likely for a similar cost (but you could sign Rossi for less right now). The difference being Rossi won't "age out" of productivity if you sign him to an eight year deal, Point very likely would. So, while a much better option than Malkin, other than size, what do you get better on? Rossi hasn't realized his full potential.
@ ok, I was just throwing a name out there, thinking we’re keeping Rossi and adding depth. If that’s the case, how about Larkin from Detroit. 28, 52% Faceoff guy, disgruntled in Detroit?
Not as easy as one would think after looking up a few players like Leo Carlsson, Sharks probably will not take offers on a 19 year old center, Dach, Suzuki, Barzal, Stutzle - all from teams sliding or maybe trading in a month or two. It’s hard because their stats are skewed when you’re on a shitty team. Who would you grab????
Z, go to Matt's, get a beer and a Juicy Lucy.
Nice
Why oh why oh why does Guerin want to trade Rossi? Malkin would be a HORRIBLE addition to this team. He's a THIRTY EIGHT years old and is a player who has been challenged to keep his emotions in check on the ice/sometimes takes dumb penalties. What a terrible, TERRIBLE idea, terrible. The idea that this would be a one-for-one trade is beyond laughably absurd. Malkin isn't worth Hunter Haight, let alone a top 2 C, scrappy, defensively responsible, net-front, scoring/passing center who will be here for years. How unbelievably foolish that trade would be.
Couldn’t make it past “cry-baby” 😂
@@thesotapod Agree, edited. I (erroneously) based my comments on a Capitals and Hurricanes hardcore fan I know who very much dislikes Malkin. My bad, I was wrong. Even so, he's 38. Veteran leadership is not lacking on this team - it is unfortunately present, though, in older players who no longer skate as well as their role demands (esp. Foligno but Spurgeon is showing some signs of age). Malkin is the same thing in a better forward role. I don't want Moose gone, and I'd be happy enough to have Malkin for a year but giving up Rossi for that is way overpaying.
Most depressing episode ever. You guys need to do a warning before the one. Not sure WTF you a thinking but a F’in injury tier list WTF then you double down with a trading Rossi topic.
The injury tier list is more of a “rank our most irreplaceable players” but fair criticism on how we labeled it
Malkin looks pretty washed… no thanks
If washed is 25 points in 30 games on a trash team then we should all aspire to be washed
He is on a downhill trend though… Rossi will only get better