Educating Wranglerstar on Silky Saws: Katanaboy Vs. Bucksaw
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Ichiban samurai saws are not full tang, are not chrome plated and have much less variety. The only fair comparison to a 4 foot bucksaw is a Katanaboy 1000 even though the 500 beat it!
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If you weren’t a silky saw rep I might take your advice here a bit more strongly. However, you are, therefore it must be viewed differently. Wrangler star isn’t paid to shill for any particular saw. Also I’m suspecting he does far more wood craft then you do. I’m liking a lot of your reviews on the other survival and prepping items. But when it comes to silky, gotta take it with a grain of salt man.
Edit: I’m not saying silky is a bad brand, just that you may be influenced to sing praises for one rather then the other.
1. why "japan" not just japan? if silky claims to produce in japan why shouldnt samuraibdo the same?😂
2. you say these can be produced for dirt cheap in china because they are not fulltang, but 10 centimeters more of a tang make it impossible for chinese people to produce them?😂
3. if you break an ichyban than you're a fool!🤷🏻♂️ you would have to break the whole handle trough the middle. good luck with that "by accident"😂 the only difference between you and him is that you want to sell silky and he is not selling anything
Wow... an insanely arrogant and condescending reveiw.
Who else was minding their damn business and just spiraled into a log cutting beef? I can't be the only one.
Hahahaha
cut that mf log. bro
i will make sure you will lóg. bro (lóg means to hang in hungarian)
Great video CanadianPrepper, I always enjoy them. There is one HUGE thing that you didn't talk about. Wranglerstar is using a saw that he has used time and time again. The Katanaboy is used by someone who has no prior experience with it. Experience is everything, because it's important to find that flow point, where the saw just cuts perfectly. I find that I can use my hips more with my katanaboy, rather than my arms. That helps a ton, and I needed the experience to accomplish feeling comfortable with the saw and gaining proficiency. That's another mark against the test that was indeed biased.
Good job. Very informative.
That guy...I won't get into it all...but that guy...he apparently knows everything about everything. Nothing left for him to learn. Must be amazing being that guy.
Everything There Is
Yup he’ll tell you how to be “proper” about everything. Arrogant jack ass
Does a Silky Saw have a pommel in case you have a tough piece of wood and you want to end it rightly?
Lol, skallagrim meme :D
Kek
The Silky saws are pull saws(you pull the saw to cut)So no need for a pommel, because pommels are for pushing NOT Pulling. That being said, buck saws make great ornaments over the fireplace.
I bought the ichiban and it is good but you're spot on with the lack of corrosion resistance. Mine rusted the first time I put it back in the scabbard without removing the moisture from the wood I just cut. Rust dots spotted throughout the blade now.
FYI, Japanese law allows any item manufactured anywhere in the world to be labeled "made in Japan" as long as that facility is run by Japanese people.
very well rounded video showing lots of facts. Had firmly cemented me acquiring a silky saw in the future and of course through your channel/ store.
Pistol grip?! So these aren't California compliant?!
Yeoman New York no more than 7 blades at once💩
The sad thing is, California will have a bill to ban them within 24 hours of someone actually being killed with a Silky saw - regardless of whether it was deliberate or accidental. Either that, or the tree-huggers will be upset because it can be used to "murder" trees more quickly and quietly (aka: "suppressed assault saw"), or whatever. Or, maybe they'll just claim that there's something in the materials they're made with that causes cancer.
I hope that the California state bill to split the state into three states gets some traction. We need to keep the good, law-abiding Americans under the Stars and Stripes, and tell the Communists to GTFO of the Union.
yeah along with 7teeth/inch. If it measure over 26" long you need to register as a possible tree poacher..
Best comment ever on saws hahaha
Ken Masters California is very fascist. The Nazis were big into forced vaccinations. Funny your Senator Pan is also that way, and he wants to make it illegal for people to even dispute the "official narrative" (aka propaganda). Forced vaccinations is medical tyranny. I also bet Big Pharma is licking its chops. By the way, piss on Dr. Pan, piss on California, piss on the corporations, and piss on this entire government.
The entire "two party" system is a joke. We have a one party system masquerading as a two party system. Our entire government is Satanic. The Washington Monument is an obelisk (Satan's shaft), the statue of Persephone on Capital Building (Queen of Underworld and destroyer of light and truth), the Georgia Guildstones (First commandment is to reduce world population to 500 million), the Statue of Liberty is actually the Statue of ISIS. I could go on and on about things in our government. However, most corporate logos have Satanic and Occultic logos. Walt Disney has 666 in cursive name (left side of W, the dot of the I, and the Y), and every movie they make is about Occultic things (sorcery, magic, etc.). Google Chrome, Vodaphone, the Trilateral Commission, Monster Energy Drink (Israeli symbol for 6 in claw mark) in logo. CBS and Time Warner have the All Seeing Eye of Horace as their logo. Any company with a star in the logo (the star is also called a Pentagram---Wal*Mart, Sirius Radio, Dallas Cowboys, Texaco, OnStar, etc.). Companies that use lighting bolts in logo (Lightning is representative of Lucifer i.e. Gatorade, ect.). Yes, you live in the land of the free.
PS-Hollywood by its very name is Occultic. It essentially means magic stick. Hollywood is evil. The "celebrities" there, in the music industry, and a lot of professional athletes, are the false idols leading people away from Christianity. I do not care if you are Christian or not. These people are practicing Occultists.
Wranglerstar just released another video Saw Test with Brian using the Katana Boy. The Katana Boy won by a large margin. Just figured I'd throw that out there for all the haters. I love both channels and don't give a shit who says which is better.
Excellent comment, "don't just do one cut, do several cuts when comparing, then you'll find out what energy is really required to use the saw"
Great video, I watch both channels. Love the humbleness CP.
Thanks for the video update. When I get to where I'm going I will be replacing my bow saws.
I use the Laplander saw and have done for years , price amazing cutting power amazing and best of all it have never let me down.
Very good points. The lack of payment for reviews explains alot. The number of people still posting very positive reviews on these saws is all the convincing i need
Got my first aid bugout roll, and the Katanaboy 650....love them!!! Still stocking the first aid roll, but the Katanaboy is already stored in my truck, ready for any storm that brings a tree down in my path. Thank you Canadian Prepper!!!
Hey great tips, glad you shared, definitely learned some great things concerning handsaws...if I may, I don't know any flawless expurts, however I appreciate it when we can all agree that humility is good and meekness is beautiful. I am subscribed to both you and wranglestar and notice bias on both your parts and also holes, however I definitely enjoy hearing what you both have to say and quite frankly, learn fun and awesome stuff. God bless you and yours, kraken on.
Just the thumbnail alone made me shake my head and giggle.
I like both of your channels. Good job on the video brother. Also when 2 guys are cutting together so close you will have bouncing even with a log locked down. Silky saws are made to hike in the woods and hike out. I don't see him hiking in the forest with a 6' saw with WD-40
I own three Silky saws, Gomboy 210 M. teeth, Bigboy 360 L. teeth and Genki Temagri 500 XL progressive teeth, and they have no set. The blades taper away from the teeth to the spine. Also, my Gomboy 210 is 10+ years old, never been sharpened and still cutting faster than other saws of like size and has many, many hours of pruning on it. I invested in a replacement blade 5 years ago, because I didn't know about the file Silky sells at the time, but that wold be sitting on a shelf N.I.B, just like the replacement blade !
The Silky saws are going to hold their edge longer, and that makes them more difficult to sharpen. Yes, you can sharpen them yourself, and they sell the tool for it ..... but, it is easier just to buy a replacement blade. That is another HUGE benefit. One can have a very compact replacement blade "just in case", also the blade itself will be in less danger of damage because of the folding nature of their katanaboy series. Sure, an extra blade costs about 85 dollars, but they stay sharp for years. I for one absolutely love my silky, and see it as a chainsaw replacement. Sure, there's more work to be done by hand, but I am not lugging around gas and oil everywhere.
Survival Mindset
They have hiked in the woods with them for a few hundred yrs now. The man even said in the video that they are 2 different use of saws. That big long silky may be good but the buck saw will go threw harder woods way better then the silky just like the silky will go threw softer wood faster. Look at the teeth of the saws. That tells you what they are made to cut. They both have there place in the woods. For Bush craft ofcourse silly. Forestry the buck.
Have you ever used the Silky katanaboy, or are you just guessing that it doesn't do well on hard woods?
Hey guys im from germany. And i do also have a Silky Katanaboy 500! It is not a ask if it goes trought hard or soft wood... the silky goes to every wood! My Opinion. I ever used it in the "woods" and we have also very hardwood! The Bucksaw is typical a very very good saw, but it isnt for everyday carry... technology come forward and a 100year old Bucksaw isnt a very good complain to a saw from 20th century! Sorry folks i love America for my little German replacement, but i would prefer the Silky! Its more durable than a bucksaw and the blade can still sharpened too. Not matter! If u have skills that can do :)
But the main what the "canadianprepper" says is, that the comparement between a big bucksaw and a small silky isnt fair...
The blade of the saw should be the same and the practical sights should even be more realistic!
At the end i think the silky is the better one for his durability and the cuts, more better like to stick with 2 meters of "full tang" saw
Great video! Very informative and greatly explained on every detail tht wasn't pointed out in wranglerstar video. I'm a firm believer in work smarter not harder and have all the info and knowledge on the tools your using to get the best performance out of it. Thanks for the great video and keep them coming I just found your channel and subbed immediately and wilo be watching.
this video popped up for me because I watched both of his battles... challenges (?). I didn't think for a moment he was trying to be thorough or scientific, it was just a mild passing curiosity to my mind.
Aha, so this is actually an advertisement.
Yes, but he doesn’t make any money from the sales, Silky is too cheap to pay commission. He must do it for the passion of the “calling” and to hear himself talk...
Exactly
He does make money because he sells them and talks about it multiple times.
... while countering wranglestars bs.
Also, I am EXTREMELY happy that you point out the monetary bias in reviews! I think a lot of pedestrian viewers have no clue that a lot of channels are getting paid or are being given free gear to give a positive review of what could very well be crap kit!
PlanetRigo there is zero evidence that he's getting paid to promote the Ichiban. You could say it's a better choice on his Wrangler store because it's cheaper and more people will buy it. He always says upfront if he's sponsored by a brand. I agree with you in general but not in this case.
Love my Katanaboy 650. Got it from you. It is a beast! Very effortless cut on any log. Allows me to reach the dry, lower branches too
i use a silky360 daily for 3 years and recently threw an ichiban into my work cart. Ive enjoyed it so far and certainly worked it very very hard. I honestly love all these saws.
Love my Silky's, nice video, I concur that you did the right thing calling him out on his video, and I respect you for updating your video.
I walked into a lee valley several years ago looking for my first saw. I bought a silky gomboy and never knew how great of a company it was. I now own a zubat and a 650. I plan on buying a pocket boy a sugowaza and the katanaboy 1000
The 1000 is the bucksaw of the future
Wow! Great explanation of tricks employed by an "expert". Just goes to show...what you see isn't always what you get.
thanks a lot for sharing
As a professional arborist, I swear by Silky.
I've been using the Zubat daily for going on ten years (along with their Zubat pole saw and their Hayuchi pole saw). The Zubat is an absolutely exceptional piece of gear and the blades stay sharp for a long time and take a ton of abuse. I've got one in the back of my work truck, with no scabbard, and it's been with me for four years. No rust. Still sharp. It is possible to snap one of Silky's saw blades though, particularly with their longer pole saws when you get pinched in a cut and it's twenty feet over your head, but that's not common (and I'm guessing not really what you do on a prepping channel).
This whole comparison between cutting logs with Wrangler's logging saw versus a folding handsaw is pretty dishonest though. One is clearly meant for bucking logs, while the other is meant for limbing and pruning. It's like comparing a hayfork to a salad fork.
A professional tree dude*
Silky saws way out preform the competition. I'm a landscaper and the boss buys cheap 180s looks like a silkie it doesn't perform like one. I have a silky 180 that I keep in my personal bag for a couple years. But the one the boss man gets I might get 6 months they either break or they rust up really quick. Silky is the way to go.
Great video and your videos are always informative - does silky saw have a blade that will go on the Zippo 4 in 1 Woodsman? If so that would be great. Or is there a better axe - saw combo - Please advise
Another thing that silky saws are known for us having the spine of the blade skinnier than the base of the teeth. Were the buck saw Wranglerstar used has the same thickness all the way across the blade ( which is why he had to spray the saw down with wd40 so it could have lubrication to slide through as he cut).
Nicely done brother!
You forgot to mention the fact that Silky saw blades snap like crazy.
Just bought one and love it!!!!!
Very nice video and comparison bro.
Ichiban (ee chee bahn) means Number One or Best in Japanese. So, it is obviously the better saw. Obviously. 🤪
Ohhhh. DAMN! Shit's about to get REAL!!!
I doubt it, I was gonna go all vegan gains but reigned myself in.
Dude,don't get me wrong,I like both of your channels,for different reasons;I watch yours for gritty,no nonsense reality(I bought a Silky Katanaboy,by the way).I watch his for the lighter fluffier side of life.I used to have a subscription to Mother Earth News also....I have moods,and I indulge them,when I can. It would be nice to have the leisure (and the money) to go to Montana to learn the finer points of maintaining an extinct kind of saw that works *ok*,but I bought a silky Katanaboy ('nuff said?).
Winfield Johnson Wranglerstar is in Oregon not Montana.
Montana's a great place to go to learn laid back arcane skills too.
I'm with you Winfield, I like both channels as well!
I know that,but he went to a special class held in Montana,for a small class of people that wanted to learn how to sharpen,and set those old crosscut monsters.They require constant fiddling with and care to maintain their edges.There is only one class offered a year,as I understand it,and it's quite expensive.If you can afford it,and like those old beasts,by all means look into it. For now, I'll stick with the Katanaboy, it fits my needs well.
We all know to never trust a review from a man that's selling the tool he's reviewing. I would trust wranglestar over this guys anyday
Hi Prepper. Thanks for a great video. I'm wanting to buy a Big Boy but not sure which one would be best for me... Fine, Medium, Large, Extra Large teeth. I'll be using it while trailbike riding to clear fairly large, dry, dead hardwood from the trail. Any advice would be really appreciated.
How much longer until the Katanaboy 1000? I've got money waiting!!
Hard for me to get too excited by a guy who sits behind a desk, disputing a a guy behind a log. Also hard to get excited by a guy who is touting the stuff he is selling. My professional crew for the USFS uses both Silky and Samurai saws. We generally prefer the Samurai, and find them sharper and lighter than the equivalent Silky. The other thing HE doesn't mention is that they cost 1/2 as much as the Silky. Your mileage may vary.
The comparison of the tang is unimportant, as the blade becomes dull and unusable on both saws LONG before the blades are in danger of breaking. (and cost half as much to replace for the Samurai)
Good job. You and Ramblestar can ramble for ever
Hi, any chance you might be able to carry the Silky Zorin? That was my first silky saw and it was great for straight cuts on lumber and I used it for all kinds of woodworking projects.
It's only a matter of time before Internet Blood-Sports comes to the TH-cam Prepping Community.
need to get Mister Metokur on this
What are you boys going to compare next? Ok, I don't want to know..
Love both channels, but wranglerstar is has the best sense of humor.
I was an axe guy. Used all sorts of saws as well. Cleared and bucked trees for with axes and various saws for fire wood. Been watching Canadian Prepper as well as Survival Russia who both speak highly of the saws and finally bought a bigboy 2000... did 3 times as much work in half the time...
No shortage of stuff Wranglerstar doesn't know about.
He's a larper
you sayin' you know more?
@@deaganboglilno5638 Yes, and I'm only 23. I don't larp on TH-cam for ad money from downie 12 year old kids or support Owen Benjamin like Wranglerstar.
@@boxelderinitiative3897 really, how many videos of his have you actually watched?
@@deaganboglilno5638 Enough, quit simping for a larper and go build something with your hands
I have Southwest airlines points and if they fly from where you are to him i'll donate you a round trip ticket for you to go out to oregon and do a competition.
JOHNNYMasteratArms DUNN, I love it. Do it CP
This!!!
He is just selling the saw he sales on his website. Idk why he has to try and diss wranglerstar bc he likes his American buck saw from 1850. So what if he likes it better. He has the right to his opinion. Hating on a man bc he doesn't like what you like is pretty dumb.
He ain’t coming, Canadians are allergic to freedom and you might actually own a firearm, possibly even a BLACK one, Ohh No...
Hell yeah brother setting the record straight! Yet being respectful about it. You earned a new sub
Rando: being respectful? "Educating" wranglerstar (he also mispronounced the channel name), "he doesn't know what he's talking about", among other things he said. He could have put out a video to sell the merchandise his store carries without calling someone out by name. He may have gained a new subscriber, but also lost one. Btw, it's called FELLING a tree, not Falling.
Wow I'll tell you I'm really impressed with these saws
I remember when this was a prepping channel
Me too
wow! you have a GREAT memory Steve W
It's funny because Wranglerstar says "This is MODERN homesteading!" yet uses all kinds of antiquated tools.
Kevin Belcher he has a fleet of power tools
Says the fucking duck
The full tine is very important for quality and easily explains the price difference. Wrangler star failed to mention that and the point about comparing folding to fixed was valid too. If I was selling Silky saws I would have made this video too. Silky offers fixed blade saws of higher quality with the same ergonomics. I wouldn't buy any saws or knives without a full tine.
That’s a very uneducated and stupid statement
I loved my silky zorin, they are not on their site anymore, insane fast cutting. Found a few new ones for sale, can't decide on it at 360 mm or a folder 500mm katanaboy, the new 500 version of the the zorin is double the katanaboy , why?
Pretty informative and good lord that Katanaboy went through that dead pine like butter..may have to invest in a Silky myself in the future. Most of my grandpa's old stuff is rusted pretty bad and he used a lot of made in the U.S.A stuff so I don't think he had a Silky at any point. I'm having to replace some of his old stuff if I wanna use it safely. Thankfully the axes are simple fixes of a new handle and a quick sharpening..once I figure out how to do it safely without hurting myself. He used an electric grinder to sharpen his axes but never really taught me how so I'm kinda learning how to use some of his tools as I need them sadly.
thanks for adding more detail. i completely disagreed with Wranglerstars opinion. it was a very flawed review
I'm about to school both channels: buy a chainsaw.
Goodluck taking that on your hiking/camping trip.
im about to school all of you; smoke crack and use a steak knife
I can vouch for Silky and I use my saws A LOT! And I don't understand the gripes about the ergos on folders. The BIGBOY has a nice, long handle which facilitates many different grips including two-handed; it BURIES fixed blade single-hand grip saws. That said, both get the job done. And just massage the wood on the backstroke, don't press down, you want those razor-sharp tips to ride on the top of the kerf. Why all the rush? lol...thx, CP, and I'm still looking for a Silky with SUPER-FINE TEETH!
Was wondering if you were going to do a rebuttal video. I wasn't thinking he was serious in the first video but that he was actually curious in the follow up one and genuinely surprised when the large Katanaboy came out on top...
Now I feel like building a wall for both borders
Tuning in at 1:03............why you take this so personal? Oh wait...I see. Sales pitch at 1:50. Throwing so much shade even when Wranglerstar admits in every video that it’s not scientific. I will be moving on now.
Hey look a logical person. I must not be in Kansas anymore toto
Great video man.
well said great review
Glad I found this! I enjoy Wranglestar but I was upset by the Silky saw review. I use and rely on Silky. I'm convinced they are the best. Wranglestar is willing to extoll super-expensive axes but all of a sudden he's super price conscious when it comes to saws?
Wrangkerstar is a moron
Good to see, this guy needs a lot of educating. In fact if shit was music, Wranglerstar would be an Orchestra.
Please explain to me why full tang matters. I have seen many broken saw blades and all occurred when the blade got pinched and pushed. This resulted in a fracture within the saw, not within the tang. Again, full tang might be stronger but since the tang is not the weakest link it just ads weight and costs
I have silky 650 simply amazing. I also have two smaller ones too.
Now Canadian prepper and wranglerstar are the Itchy and Scratchy of the prepper community.
Yeah, I am totally gonna backpack that giant Bucksaw into the woods with me xD Silky wins :D
Which saw should be my first ? Good for keeping in truck.
I mean the comparison between the big american buck saw vs the silky saw big boy was a good test imo. I think it really shows that the silky saw is pretty good compared to the big buck saw.
Ben Askren vs Jake Paul is now, next let's get the beef going again and do Wranglerstar vs Canadian Prepper.
Gotta love this. Wranglers video is literally the embodiment of "look at my big AMERICAN saw how dare you buy a JAPANESE saw, mines better becuase its from the USA you must not be a patriot you konichiwa asshat" just had that air about it like he was just supporting the bucksaw because it was a big american saw, regardless of performances
Not really since you can hear him praise silky saws countless times in his videos. If you don't know that, then you obviously have only seen this one video of him.
Lol you did it man. Subscribed
On a folding saw, what is less taxing on the body, pull cut or push? I think Silky are all pull cut, correct?
@El Calorie Thanks...like most older people im used to push cut so I have some re-learning. Im shopping for a Silky now, do you have an opinion on medium or large teeth?
I've got to say Wranglestar is one of the few channels that I have ever unsubbed . Don't even remember why, he just began to rub me the wrong way. I think it was just his arrogant nature that caused me to quit enjoying his videos.
Both these guys are idiots😂
elk hunter I also unsubscribed from his channel after 3 years. My reason was his constant clickbait titles. It got really annoying
I Remember... He just dismisses anyone that tells him he's wrong or there's a better way.. ( I am Not perfect and welcome constructive criticism.
Yeah, a superiority complex to be sure. There was also some religious zealotry that stuck in my craw. Don't get me wrong. I am A 62 year old Christian and have served as a deacon in my church for years. His brand of religion is used as a club to beat others with. Just not my thing, I believe in the love of Christ and try to practice it as best I can. No room for hate in my world. Part of the reason I unsubbed.
I also unsubscribe from him, this is where I go and bash him, but nope I’ll just leave it at that.
So silky saws are you trigger eh
never owned a saw before and just recently bought my first silky gomboy outback edition...and my god is that thing sharp. Best investment ever!
One thing that was covered in wranglersstar that I didn’t hear you cover was the issue of resharpening some of the smaller saws.
Can it be done and if so what would you use
Small file.
Good review brother! It is important to challenge biased reviews, in particular when it is presented by someone like Wranglerstar. Big channels should pay attention to the ethics of what they put out to the viewing public who are looking for genuine advice and opinions prior to purchasing their goods. Best wishes, WS, BC Canada.
Woodsman Spirit You call Cody’s review biased but what I see here is another man trying to sell “his” brand of saw... I think in the end they both will work just fine and both of these guys are trying to make money on TH-cam from items they are paid to represent in a good light. that’s the long and short of it
When I started this video I was sure CP was going to be all butt hurt and whiny,
But no,
CP you made a great points and explained what Cody did to skew the test.
Good video CP Thank you.
To wrangler star, I love ya dude, BUT I'm going keep a closer eye on you now.
Thanks for this video. I lost some saws so will check these out. Love Japan stuff period. My toyostove(may become dealer), my 3rd Mirage car(never had to add freon in), My honda bike-marvelous and wish some of the wood stoves I seen would get in production or make it to the states(or I leave states). The heat pumps are wonderous also(don't own one yet).
Good understanding of physics. Much appreciated. People who "think physics" seem to have more "common sense" than those who are limited to what they can observe with their eyes, but don't understand HOW things (in general) work, dynamically, according to the laws of physics while taking other conditions (variables) into consideration.
Wranglerstar doesn't know what he's talking about and all his videos are clickbait. All you will get from this is his fans flooding to downvote. Just find someone competent to do your comparison, Wranglerstar's crosscut is no doubt improperly sharpened.
Just a note on the types of saws, what Wranglerstar is using is a crosscut, the wooden frame saws are generally referred to as bucksaws, and the metal frame bow saws.
He knows more than you think and I know his saws are sharpened correctly because of who taught him to sharpen them.
I saw the wranglerstar video thumbnail and could not stop laughing... Pitting the massive crosscut against a small version of the Silky!! BHAHAHA. one of main reasons I no longer follow his channel; he's so negatively opinionated. If he doesn't like it, he assumes it's garbage and won't even entertain the possibility that some folks may like it better. Case in point; the Fiskars splitting axe. I've had it for years and have beat the crap out of it - no issues at all with the handle. Just my preference, and in total opposition to his "findings". I find some of his reviews are doomed to fail in the direction he wants them to, which is not honest. Not a fan anymore.
I am glad you took the time to show the "monster" Silky saw in action as a fair comparison to a massive crosscut saw. Just seeing the effortless efficiency of the Silky from not only your reviews, but other reviews on youtube has got me convinced it's the direction I want to go. Great analysis also on the physics of his video and how it can be skewed in a particular favor. Much appreciated and hello from NB!
1976TPF Says the person throwing negativity at someone for a video he didn't watch. WS was clear in the video that it was a silly comparison. It was for fun, ffs. WS likes the silky saws.
how do the silky and buck saw compare in terms of resistance to damage such as if there was an old nail or peace of buckshot in the wood from decades ago and you either are unaware of it or don't have a choice on what tree or where you cut ( scarcity of good trees , tree in someplace you need there not to be a tree etc ) ?
Silky is a harder steel so I imagine it would fair better. Depends on the size of the teeth, the bigger the teeth the bigger the snag and probably more damage
Are there racking systems out there for a person who has a collection of Silky Saws?
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that dude triggered.
He LOVED John Neeman axes...so I order one...1 year wait list....ok. got it 2 years and 3 months later. He claimed i don't have anything to do with that company. Well ya, but you recommended it, I'd never heard of them, ya can't send one email and ask whats going on? Haven't watched his stuff since.
@@adamfrbs9259 I stopped watch Wranglestar after that video of him on a fireline spending OVER 30 mins making a single cut on a log down over a ditch! 😳 it was pathetic! He went on and on about how the guys really respected his skill and talents as he went on and on and on. He wouldn’t last a single day here doing that kind of shit. He would get fired.
Both yours and Wranglerstar’s channels are two of my favorites. That said, you’re being nit picky.
The first comparison - I think he was just throwing together a vid with what he had on hand. Yes, it’s apples and oranges, but still very telling. It proved that a very compact and light Silky cuts a relatively large log just as fast as a 5’ buck saw. Thats insane, and a huge win for Silky.
The second comparison - closer to apples to apples. He did mention that Silky made a bigger saw, but that he didn’t want to spend the extra money on it just for the review. The Silky, again, blew the buck saw out of the water. Another win for Silky.
The biggest argument I feel that you can make against his videos is that the technique of Brian (running the Silky) and that it’s not refined. I believe this is the first time he ran a Silky.
After watching Wranglerstar’s vids and your vids, it is abundantly clear to be that Silky is the best saw on the market for woods use. They are lighter, more compact, faster, and with prober technique use less energy. The only problem I see with Silky is the user serviceability, as I don’t see a way to sharpen them in the field.
Eric Rosbottom I don’t think it would be necessary to sharpen in the field, but I can see it as a disadvantage to not ever be able to sharpen it. Of course it comes down to how much it’s being used.
WS's first video on this was pretty confrontational towards Silkys...when I (a landscaping professional with 10 years experience) pointed out he (WS) didn't use the Silky correctly, he said I was insane. Hmmm... who's insane?
also proves that silky sponsored him
Having used silky for some time i have had the bigboy for many many years cut hundreds of trees from trails and fire wood prep. and last year i broke my first blade and that was because i lost my footing and applied a lot of weight onto my saw, they cut like butter, I have seen the other video you mention and i dont really think the guy had much clue of how to use them correctly . they are great saws i have never used anything quite like them before and i have been cutting wood for 50 years now. i did make a soft sheath for my belt for the bigboy. out of some cordura and velcro. that was a wise investment as i dont like the solid sheaths.
Ciuld you compare prices also? I just watch some random videos on many different things and don't know prices.
Dude. Awesome. That vid just made me chuckle quite a bit. Thanks for the teaching sensai. Manglerstar will hopefully tune in, although i stopped watching his vids quite a while ago due to silly misinformation. Canadian prepper for the straight goods.
I havent watched a lot of his vids and I not out to defame him with this, just had to correct his misinformation about the saws
Of course. Im just glad to have the b.s. reprimanded.
Wow, CP, listening to you talk is painful.
Excellent video, Canadian Prepper (CP). So glad you put Wranglerstar in his place regarding Silky Saws.
Note: I know when to use these type of saws over bow saws already. I just saw Survival Lilly do a comparison on them already (LOL).
P.S. I'm going to call you CP henceforth as it's much easier to type in on my phone and tablet.
Good video!
Ahhh, you sell them I get it now.
And the other dude sold the other brand.... what did you really expect?
I appreciate your fervor towards Silky.. But you may have missed the point of those wranglerstar videos.. I don't think he was trying to disparage Silky (it's nearly impossible with the reputation they've built worldwide),he was representing an alternative brand that is more cost effective. I've used 'Samurai' brand saws and they literally cut and feel identical to Silky saws of similar specs..Those other saw test videos were open to interpretation. I felt as if he was proving how fast a 1lb Silky bigboy cuts vs a 6lb(?) vintage timber crosscut saw.. His main point came down to cost/value between silky vs samurai,ars,stihl,corona,etc and he's completely right. for some paying an extra 30-50 bucks is worth it,but in my case if your needing to buy them by the 10 and 20s to outfit tree crews,those 30-50 bucks add up.
Great lakes prepper ... It's the exact same with any equipment... whether you're talking mowers, chainsaws, or hand tools; the cheap tool is for newbys til they learn not to break stuff, the premium stuff is for professionals who do it fast and well...working smarter, not harder.
yeah but that's not exactly the case here. Samurai,ars,stihl,corona and silky all cut so similar you'd need advanced timers and electrocardiography to scientifically test which one cuts quickest and/or uses the least human energy input..
Great lakes prepper I agree 100%
I climb trees and can easily get at very least one year out of a silky, if your guys are going through more than one a season make them buy their own.
You are correct CP missed the point. Also hard to say you are more objective when all you have in front of you are silky saws. Wranglestar at least had experience with the two saws. Full range of or not isn't the deciding factor. I have a Corona saw that has a plastic or fiber reinforced poly grip and I have abused the crap out of it dur il ng hunting season. No rust and it cuts just fine. There are other options available in saws besides silky and just because someone prefers the alternative doesn't mean they are illinformed. I suggest CP goes and twirls his saws around some more like a crazy person instead of posting long rebuttals to other youtubers videos. What a waste of 17m.
Fan of both channels ! Let's see you too do a real life comparison silky 1000 vs buck saw !!!This would be a fair comparison ,even though it's still fixed blade vs foldable ,with is a little in favour of the fixed blade . Buck saws need sharpening every few logs , silkys don't !!! Horses for courses ! :) peace .