One question, what size socket is it?! Some other questions I see answered; 1: Clockwise (Righty tighty) to raise, Counter-clockwise (lefty-loosey) to lower(?) 2: Yes you have to lift it to do this job
This was very helpful. Thank you. One more question, if i lift my ST 03, is possible to use spring coils? I am using a gas type shock absorbers and since more areas were exposed, I want to put spring coils to make it look more tough. Is it possible?
The torsion bars are used in place of coil springs on these trucks. I am sure that there are kits out there to convert the torsion bars to coil springs, but to answer your question no, you cannot use the torsion bars and coils at the same time.
My driver side on my 01 f150 used to be half an inch higher. I gave the passenger side a crank and a half. No tire unusual wear. Do I really need an alignment?
@@planetjupiter2551 With that small of an adjustment you are going to be fine, but when you start raising the front a couple inches, the angle of contact of the tires on the ground will change. That is when you need an alignment.
I have a 2003 FX4LII. I was thinking of going the key route also saw a different key install video and he indicated they really didn't do much. After reading your comments glad to say im off that path, looked like a pain in the balls anyways. Ive got airbags on back for pulling a camper and they jacked up the rear a bit more than the already jacked stock. So i could really use a couple more inches up front and wouldn't mind going to 32" tires after i burn up the BFG's. So about 6 cranks and get an alignment. You talk about having to add the bolts to adjust the camber, wouldn't any alignment shop be doing taht anyways? Another key video said he didn't put in the upper shock spacers and he did not have to get an alignment. if your tires arent wearing why do you need to adjust the camber? Great video, thanks.
Thanks for the comment, the reason why I added camber bolts is because the stock upper control arm bolts are square and do not allow for any camber adjustment. Installing the new ones that have a cam on them do allow for adjustment. I always get an alignment after any suspension change that has the ability to change any part of the alignment (eg. ball joints, tierods, or a lift). This is just my rule of thumb to conserve the tires as much as possible, but it won't make a big difference in the short term. If you feel that it will be ok without an alignment then you don't need to do one. I just did one to be safe.
@@TheMileHighMechanic thanks for the response. So i got another questions. Some of the key videos and people are saying they get 3" of lift on the front. if turning the torsion bolts only gain you 1.5 to 2" im confused. It would seem based on that the keys do do something. im not doubting what you say just trying to fully understand.
@@johnnyofast5924 you can get 3" or more just from turning the bolts all the way in. In my video, I only did it to where I wanted it (not all the way).
We're talking about a half an inch, but yes you would want them equal...my thought process was when I am in the car it will equal out since it should theoretically sag more on the drivers side.
How would you know that they are level, since the ground isn't ever level. Maybe measure them while jacked up off the ground after test driving it. Also does tightening the bolt lift it and loosening the bolt lower it? ...Righty rise, lefty lower(?)
Good to know, I've tried entering with different things but everything else feels like I am forcing it if that makes any sense. But I will certainly try
I could hardly tell a difference. Now if you go cranking the keys all the way then that is when your ride will be less than ideal. I believe I did 6 turns and it feels great! I'm glad you found this helpful.
Get extended shocks then you can crank them all the way and have hardly a difference. If you crank them with stock shocks the ride is going to be absolutely terrible
If you look at 4:10 I give the numbers, and if the tires are rubbing just slightly at full turn then it will probably clear. But if it is not at full turn I would not count on it.
The front was only lifted about an inch and a half...the truck came with about a 2" rake in the front, so I am lifting the front to make it around level...the rear is still higher than the front.
Yes, you will need to raise the front before adjusting the torsion bars. You could use the jack from the emergency kit as an extra, and then use your other one on the other side.
Hey I have a question. I have a 07 ford ranger 4x4 and I noticed that one of the torsion keys was in pretty far and the other one way far out. Do you think this was done on purpose?
I believe that they come from the factory at the same length, so if your truck is sitting level, and does not slope to one side, then I would say yes. This difference could also indicate that there was some issues that a previous owner had with the suspension. I would check all the suspension components on that side of the truck (especially the shocks) to see if anything looks out of place. If everything looks correct, it could mean that the torsion bar on that side is worn out and should be replaced eventually.
Ok that makes sense. Un-turning that bolt a couple of turns will make it level on each side. The same thing can be achieved by screwing in the other one (as long as you want to raise the front to the height of the other side). Pretty odd that someone would just crank one side though.
The front end needs to be off the ground to ensure that the torsion bar spreads the load among the entire torsion bar not just one area. Hope this helps.
@@payneszn Do not go that route!!!! It is a complete rip-off. All the keys do is change the angle at which the torsion bar is held. You will STILL have to crank the torsion bars to get any lift. So basically the keys do nothing unless you are cranking the bars to the max and if you do that your ride quality will be terrible. I have done plenty of research on this and I can tell you confidently that new keys do NOTHING. You can achieve the exact same results for free with a torsion bar crank.
@@TheMileHighMechanic I was going to do a torsion key 2 inch level in the front and then 2 inch shackles in the back? Would that not be a good idea for a leveling kit?
Yes, I put out another video walking you through how to install camber bolts (th-cam.com/video/DcsLw6G0yzs/w-d-xo.html). The bolts that are on there right now do not allow for adjustment so you will need to install these to have a shop align them properly. Thanks for your question; I will be adding this information to the description of the video.
@@Nikkk6969 Correct, cranking the t-bars will add a bit of posative camber, and on these trucks, you cannot ajust the camber with the stock bolts. Installing adjustable camber bolts will let you take the positive camber out and make the tires wear evenly.
I call my truck a car sometimes, I think of it like a blanket statement. Even though they are 2 different things, they serve the same purpose as an automobile.🤷
@@TheMileHighMechanic I didnt think of thar, I guess if it was tracking straight and not pulling before then that makes sense...good to know because I am going to be doing this to my 2003 f150 xl reg cab longbed 4x4 after I do the rear add a leaf...now I wont fk it up and cause issues....thank you
One question, what size socket is it?! Some other questions I see answered; 1: Clockwise (Righty tighty) to raise, Counter-clockwise (lefty-loosey) to lower(?) 2: Yes you have to lift it to do this job
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One question, what size socket is it?!
Some other questions I see answered;
1: Clockwise (Righty tighty) to raise,
Counter-clockwise (lefty-loosey) to lower(?)
2: Yes you have to lift it to do this job
I forgot what size it was, if I had to guess it would be a 13mm or 1/2." all the other info is correct.
This was very helpful. Thank you. One more question, if i lift my ST 03, is possible to use spring coils? I am using a gas type shock absorbers and since more areas were exposed, I want to put spring coils to make it look more tough. Is it possible?
The torsion bars are used in place of coil springs on these trucks. I am sure that there are kits out there to convert the torsion bars to coil springs, but to answer your question no, you cannot use the torsion bars and coils at the same time.
My driver side on my 01 f150 used to be half an inch higher. I gave the passenger side a crank and a half. No tire unusual wear. Do I really need an alignment?
@@planetjupiter2551 With that small of an adjustment you are going to be fine, but when you start raising the front a couple inches, the angle of contact of the tires on the ground will change. That is when you need an alignment.
I have a 2003 FX4LII. I was thinking of going the key route also saw a different key install video and he indicated they really didn't do much. After reading your comments glad to say im off that path, looked like a pain in the balls anyways. Ive got airbags on back for pulling a camper and they jacked up the rear a bit more than the already jacked stock. So i could really use a couple more inches up front and wouldn't mind going to 32" tires after i burn up the BFG's. So about 6 cranks and get an alignment. You talk about having to add the bolts to adjust the camber, wouldn't any alignment shop be doing taht anyways? Another key video said he didn't put in the upper shock spacers and he did not have to get an alignment. if your tires arent wearing why do you need to adjust the camber? Great video, thanks.
Thanks for the comment, the reason why I added camber bolts is because the stock upper control arm bolts are square and do not allow for any camber adjustment. Installing the new ones that have a cam on them do allow for adjustment.
I always get an alignment after any suspension change that has the ability to change any part of the alignment (eg. ball joints, tierods, or a lift). This is just my rule of thumb to conserve the tires as much as possible, but it won't make a big difference in the short term. If you feel that it will be ok without an alignment then you don't need to do one. I just did one to be safe.
@@TheMileHighMechanic thanks for the response. So i got another questions. Some of the key videos and people are saying they get 3" of lift on the front. if turning the torsion bolts only gain you 1.5 to 2" im confused. It would seem based on that the keys do do something. im not doubting what you say just trying to fully understand.
@@johnnyofast5924 you can get 3" or more just from turning the bolts all the way in. In my video, I only did it to where I wanted it (not all the way).
My Ford Ranger is sagging on the left 1 inch. Can I adjust just the left side to even the truck out?
I don't see anything wrong with only adjusting one side.
@@TheMileHighMechanic thanks!
@@MagicRoosterBluesBand 🫡
Ok
Wouldn’t you want the front left and right to be closer to equal?
We're talking about a half an inch, but yes you would want them equal...my thought process was when I am in the car it will equal out since it should theoretically sag more on the drivers side.
How would you know that they are level, since the ground isn't ever level. Maybe measure them while jacked up off the ground after test driving it.
Also does tightening the bolt lift it and loosening the bolt lower it?
...Righty rise, lefty lower(?)
Do you need aftermarket torsion keys? Or you can do with stock ones in place
Nope, I did this video with stock hardware.
Good video, please choose different opening logo dialogue, people will immediately think copy of Chris fix.
Good to know, I've tried entering with different things but everything else feels like I am forcing it if that makes any sense. But I will certainly try
Were the turns clockwise or counterclockwise?
Tighten to lift, loosen to lower
..and that answered my second question!
How does it ride now? Is it stiff or more harsh than it was? I appreciate the video ty.
I could hardly tell a difference. Now if you go cranking the keys all the way then that is when your ride will be less than ideal. I believe I did 6 turns and it feels great! I'm glad you found this helpful.
Get extended shocks then you can crank them all the way and have hardly a difference. If you crank them with stock shocks the ride is going to be absolutely terrible
@@FuZe. can I get extended shocks specifically for my 2008 Ranger Sport? Will they say extended shock when ordering them? Thank you!
About how much lift do you get? Do you think this would eliminate any rub issues with 31s?
If you look at 4:10 I give the numbers, and if the tires are rubbing just slightly at full turn then it will probably clear. But if it is not at full turn I would not count on it.
WHAT About the rear ??? YOU already lifted up the front,,, NOW the rear drag low,,, how u make it ball=ance ????
The front was only lifted about an inch and a half...the truck came with about a 2" rake in the front, so I am lifting the front to make it around level...the rear is still higher than the front.
Does this adjustment change your wheel camber and increase tire wear?
It will definitely change the camber but it will not increase any tire wear
Would 2 inches be enough to mess the camber up enough to warrant an alignment?
Absolutely, It only takes a couple of degrees.
Would you always need to jack up befote adjusting torsion? What if I dont have a stand, just a jack?
Yes, you will need to raise the front before adjusting the torsion bars. You could use the jack from the emergency kit as an extra, and then use your other one on the other side.
Thanks mate! Yes I have one more jack! 😁
@@derkwei Glad I could help out!
@@derkwei damn it, im one jack off.
Does the truck need to be lifted off the ground?
Yes, it needs to be in the air to ensure even load dispersion along the torsion bar
Answered my question! Well, mostly. So only the front two wheels need to be in the air(?)
Clock wise or Counter to adjust the Bolt .
You are tightening the bolt so clock wise.
Hey I have a question. I have a 07 ford ranger 4x4 and I noticed that one of the torsion keys was in pretty far and the other one way far out. Do you think this was done on purpose?
I believe that they come from the factory at the same length, so if your truck is sitting level, and does not slope to one side, then I would say yes. This difference could also indicate that there was some issues that a previous owner had with the suspension. I would check all the suspension components on that side of the truck (especially the shocks) to see if anything looks out of place. If everything looks correct, it could mean that the torsion bar on that side is worn out and should be replaced eventually.
@@TheMileHighMechanic Ok thanks so much! Yeah it slopes on one side and is probably about an 1 inch to an inch and a half taller than the other side.
Which side does it slope to? Does it go to side of the more turned key or is the side that is turned higher than the less turned one?
@@TheMileHighMechanic It is higher on the drivers side. The bolt on the drivers side is pushed in farther than the bolt on the passenger side.
Ok that makes sense. Un-turning that bolt a couple of turns will make it level on each side. The same thing can be achieved by screwing in the other one (as long as you want to raise the front to the height of the other side). Pretty odd that someone would just crank one side though.
To raise it up do you tighten and to lower it you loosen?
Yes, the more you tighten the bolt, the more of an index you put on the torsion key. This increased index raises the front of the truck.
@@TheMileHighMechanic okay
@@sayvorie glad I could help
Iv a 98 2x4 (I'm thinking same set up as 4x4 )I'd like to lower ' have you a video of doing rears' thanks
Rears are different because they are leaf springs
Will it work with 2wd
Yes as long as it has torsion bars in the front it will work for any car
What year is your ranger
2001
Why not level the truck, then make the torsion marks?
I was trying to maintain the factory stance, and to do that I marked the factory positions.
Do you know if you are able to do this without a jack?
The front end needs to be off the ground to ensure that the torsion bar spreads the load among the entire torsion bar not just one area. Hope this helps.
Thanks think I'm just going to get a torsion key lift play it safe
@@payneszn Do not go that route!!!! It is a complete rip-off. All the keys do is change the angle at which the torsion bar is held. You will STILL have to crank the torsion bars to get any lift. So basically the keys do nothing unless you are cranking the bars to the max and if you do that your ride quality will be terrible. I have done plenty of research on this and I can tell you confidently that new keys do NOTHING. You can achieve the exact same results for free with a torsion bar crank.
@@TheMileHighMechanic I was going to do a torsion key 2 inch level in the front and then 2 inch shackles in the back? Would that not be a good idea for a leveling kit?
@@payneszn So are you looking for a lift level or just a level?
you do know that now you need a front end alignment cuzz you just changed the camber on it
Yes, I put out another video walking you through how to install camber bolts (th-cam.com/video/DcsLw6G0yzs/w-d-xo.html). The bolts that are on there right now do not allow for adjustment so you will need to install these to have a shop align them properly. Thanks for your question; I will be adding this information to the description of the video.
So I need to change the camber first before I do this? And then after I do the 6 1/2 turns I get alignment?
The bolts*
@@TheMileHighMechanic hold up, so after I torsion lift my truck I have to install something else just so it will be able to be aligned properly??
@@Nikkk6969 Correct, cranking the t-bars will add a bit of posative camber, and on these trucks, you cannot ajust the camber with the stock bolts. Installing adjustable camber bolts will let you take the positive camber out and make the tires wear evenly.
You will need to realign afterwards
Yes, I did mention to get an alignment
Theoretically if for a laugh would it go far enough to make it squat 😂
That would be quite blasphemous
@@TheMileHighMechanic but is it possible 🤔
@@5racing no I don't think so
Just back off one turn on drivers side, it would be level.!
It is actually perfect when I am in the car because it sags a little towards the driver because all the weight is on that side.
why do people call a truck a car,I have a 2011 ranger and people call it a car.
I call my truck a car sometimes, I think of it like a blanket statement. Even though they are 2 different things, they serve the same purpose as an automobile.🤷
Chrisfix wannabe
I'm just trying to help people. You can think what you want.
why wouldnt you make both sides even
They were never even to begin with, and I don't want to crank one side more than the other in fear of creating an imbalance in the suspension.
@@TheMileHighMechanic I didnt think of thar, I guess if it was tracking straight and not pulling before then that makes sense...good to know because I am going to be doing this to my 2003 f150 xl reg cab longbed 4x4 after I do the rear add a leaf...now I wont fk it up and cause issues....thank you
@@joemarchinski914 Glad I could clear some things up!
One question, what size socket is it?!
Some other questions I see answered;
1: Clockwise (Righty tighty) to raise,
Counter-clockwise (lefty-loosey) to lower(?)
2: Yes you have to lift it to do this job
I forgot what size it was, if I had to guess it would be a 13mm or 1/2." all the other info is correct.