Hela VS Odin Full Fight - Wenwu The Ten Rings | What If? Season 2 Episode 7

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  • @jg2722
    @jg2722 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4338

    I like how wenwu always falls for women who can beat him in a fight

    • @Phizzo4real
      @Phizzo4real 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That is a dude who is Hella secured in his manhood 😂😂😂

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

      Spike Spiegel nods in agreement.

    • @Jake-cm9jj
      @Jake-cm9jj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +363

      and then gives up his evil ways to do whatever she wants...he's just a simp in waiting lol

    • @oneofmany1804
      @oneofmany1804 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      @@Jake-cm9jja man of good taste

    • @CoinChocholate
      @CoinChocholate 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the only thing he does when he cant beat someone especially a women is doin that butt clapping while ramming that chicken 😅

  • @excalibur9495
    @excalibur9495 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2542

    Kratos, a god if war, turned god of peace.
    Hela, goddess of death, turned goddess of life.

    • @fatmirlatifi2273
      @fatmirlatifi2273 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Hela Goddess of Wokeness 🔥🔥

    • @Someone16733
      @Someone16733 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@fatmirlatifi2273cry about it

    • @efaristi9737
      @efaristi9737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Goddess of the deads, why does everyone think that Hela is some kind of angel of death ? If she was, no one would be able to stand before her.

    • @Soulinfidiviflower9
      @Soulinfidiviflower9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@efaristi9737 The angel of death is a lower class than the god class and the administration of the angel of death depends on god.

    • @efaristi9737
      @efaristi9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Soulinfidiviflower9Not what i mean, i used the angel of death as a comparison, i could have used Thanatos.

  • @Merobloxme
    @Merobloxme 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3840

    I can’t believe this ( episode7 ) turned the most evil woman to the Best woman in This season

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      I don't know the girl in the previous ep was cool to.

    • @awmsquare-a4621
      @awmsquare-a4621 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Nah

    • @Guywithskullface
      @Guywithskullface 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Why does wen wu looked like Shang tsung?

    • @hritviknijhawan1737
      @hritviknijhawan1737 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Guywithskullfacelol you're right

    • @Guywithskullface
      @Guywithskullface 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@hritviknijhawan1737 he kinda looks like from mk1

  • @tuireti3025
    @tuireti3025 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1740

    Do they realize how powerful Odin is, his spear wasn’t the source of his power, it was a conduit for him to concentrate and focus his own power into a the beams emitted from the spear
    In addition his own power without the use of the spear was “hither to undreamt of”.

    • @deleted01
      @deleted01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      nah

    • @tuireti3025
      @tuireti3025 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

      @@deleted01 exactly they dont

    • @oskarnadolski643
      @oskarnadolski643 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nah bro

    • @Tamashikusho
      @Tamashikusho 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

      I was under the impression Odin was holding back, since he was more interested in testing Hela than blasting her to ash.

    • @tuireti3025
      @tuireti3025 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      @@Tamashikusho could have been, could have been, failure on their part to be clear of both

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1395

    Odin just want to go for a walk.
    A very enthusiastic walk.

    • @adrianoguimaraeshiltner6319
      @adrianoguimaraeshiltner6319 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      I Understood That Reference, a true man of culture your are

    • @PaKePo
      @PaKePo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lmfao x2

    • @mrunknown138
      @mrunknown138 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well said worthy opponent

    • @eyeofthetyger8504
      @eyeofthetyger8504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You know what they say about cannons

    • @valwark
      @valwark 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      my favorite part of the episode was when thor drove a blackhawk directly into them

  • @harrypausanos4128
    @harrypausanos4128 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1240

    I really love Hela as a villain. And now i love her even more as a hero💚💚💚

    • @anthonyschwoch2244
      @anthonyschwoch2244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I agree with but in our universe she is still a villain in the movie who plans to rule asgard and kill everyone to get the sword

    • @Nemenis
      @Nemenis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@anthonyschwoch2244we are talking about hela from what if. Not from Thor ragnarok from 2017

    • @anthonyschwoch2244
      @anthonyschwoch2244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Nemenis I know

    • @roshanmehta1985
      @roshanmehta1985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ⁠@@anthonyschwoch2244”I agree but sadly in our universe she’s bad” bluds talking as if the avengers exist in our universe.
      Its like saying “superman is evil in alternate dceu but in the comics he’s a nice guy” like who cares bruv its all fiction written by underpayed sweaty hobos in a room

    • @Nemenis
      @Nemenis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@roshanmehta1985 that’s exactly what I thought 😂😂

  • @ShadowtheRonin
    @ShadowtheRonin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +386

    I like how nobody in the comments mentions half the video is Kahhori's episode for some reason.

    • @ajaymaan3414
      @ajaymaan3414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      ​@@yourFBlagent cuz people know its done to avoid copy right strikes. So there's no need to mention since everyone knows expect you people getting surprised

    • @Zer0__P0int__
      @Zer0__P0int__ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s so goofy but I assumed it was to avoid strikes LOL

    • @BBBness
      @BBBness 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I came to ask. Thanks bringing it up.

  • @Cirex2118
    @Cirex2118 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    "No God should have dominion over death, who has so little appreciation for life."
    What a powerful line..

  • @xShadow_MD
    @xShadow_MD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

    Everytime i see those Rings in action I can't help but be impressed. The martial arts combined with the rings is so beautiful and powerful. Love to see it

    • @Jake-cm9jj
      @Jake-cm9jj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      They really made them much cooler in the MCU than they are in the comics. So much more style.

    • @xShadow_MD
      @xShadow_MD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Jake-cm9jj i didn't see the comics version. But tbh i kinda expected we'd see the version of the 10 rings that had like unique powers like in iron man armoured adventures. But this is a big W

    • @MOTIONSOLDIERR
      @MOTIONSOLDIERR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xShadow_MDI believe that show is more faithful to the comics but yeah they’re cooler in the MCU.

    • @snowshock8958
      @snowshock8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      In live action it is cooler! The sounds design and different color depending if Shang chi or Wenwu wear them.
      And director confirmed Shang chi is similar to Thor and Hulk level.

    • @jayv3264
      @jayv3264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😬

  • @TheIcemanthomas
    @TheIcemanthomas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1651

    If Odin wanted to truly destroy them, it wouldn’t have even been a fight.

    • @julianokeke3466
      @julianokeke3466 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

      The what if is almost failing.

    • @Erik-z5g
      @Erik-z5g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      If if if..odin is an old fart

    • @PatienceOgbu-u8p
      @PatienceOgbu-u8p 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah I know

    • @bsentertainment500
      @bsentertainment500 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      yeah that makes no sense.
      in what if they simply kept their powers with weapons on the other it was their only with thor because of odin force.

    • @brassbeast8582
      @brassbeast8582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Odin in the MCU [the version in this] is not that powerful

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza2066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +577

    I wonder how Thor would turn out, if Hela would most likely train him

    • @Sanuw7
      @Sanuw7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Will Thor be born in this universe?

    • @timmywoo3572
      @timmywoo3572 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sanuw7yee I mean Odin still banged the mom so yea

    • @captlanc
      @captlanc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      ​@@Sanuw7Yeah, frigga is the new girlfriend, Thor is in the making.

    • @Pasan34
      @Pasan34 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Lol Hela would probably be constantly smacking Thor upside the head. Like how all big sisters should.

    • @samuraijackson241
      @samuraijackson241 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@Pasan34but care about him deep down and treat him everytime he get injured.

  • @malcolmgardner688
    @malcolmgardner688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +725

    I didn't expect them to make Odin the Villian and Hela The Hero.

    • @generalgrievous262
      @generalgrievous262 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

      Odin wasnt really even a villain he made Hela go through the same trial of worthyness he put Thor through

    • @malcolmgardner688
      @malcolmgardner688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@generalgrievous262 Your not wrong bout that

    • @johnathonclayton6964
      @johnathonclayton6964 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      I'm just glad we finally got to see Odin in action.

    • @malcolmgardner688
      @malcolmgardner688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnathonclayton6964 Me too

    • @malcolmgardner688
      @malcolmgardner688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@johnathonclayton6964 I'm surprised they had him break the hammer this time

  • @EternalPayne
    @EternalPayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

    This episode was amazing, would love to see this Hela again

  • @martijnklaassen3536
    @martijnklaassen3536 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I love the rings, you can use them in so many creative ways

  • @trevorphilips4925
    @trevorphilips4925 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    is it just me or does anyone else think that animated wen wu looks a lot like shang tsung from MK1

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      And Shang Chi's mother looking like Mulan.

    • @adityuken
      @adityuken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is just you, because you are special, the way you are

    • @Thebestemerald4
      @Thebestemerald4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adityuken177 people agree💀

    • @thatbearsalmon7619
      @thatbearsalmon7619 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shang tsung if i remember correctly use a very old form of kung fu so that might be why

  • @ivankarim8678
    @ivankarim8678 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +429

    If Odin wanted to wipe them out he would've wiped them out sitting on his throne..he barely used 0.1% of the Odin Force..he was just trying to test his daughter same way he tested Thor.

    • @TheLastSane1
      @TheLastSane1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Odin is not infinite in the MCU. Truth is when the Bifrost was destroyed it cost a lot of his power to just send Thor to Earth during the events of Avengers. So he is not as powerful in the MCU.

    • @TruOnyxfire
      @TruOnyxfire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      @@TheLastSane1 And THAT is the inherent flaw in converting these kinds of beings into characters in movies. You have to completely eliminate their power just so they don't steamroll over everything. But, in the process, it completely destroys any semblance of the character in favor of making some other character seem all-powerful. ::coughcough:: wokeness ::cough cough::

    • @TruOnyxfire
      @TruOnyxfire 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@kanielabarcai6182 He's an All-Father, he has the Odin Force, his eye was traded for the gift of higher Wisdom.

    • @hersheysbar28
      @hersheysbar28 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@TruOnyxfire What 💀 where in the hell does "wokeness" factor into this

    • @TruOnyxfire
      @TruOnyxfire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@hersheysbar28 Because it is the exact thing the MCU has been doing forever, now, since AT LEAST Captain Marvel. Making Odin just a weak old man, while building up characters like Capt. Marvel, Wanda, "every female in Wakanda". It's the only agenda Marvel/Disney has when making any movie, now. Capt. Marvel was simply the most ridiculous example of completely changing a character for no reason, just like they changed Odin to be sad and pathetic to make room for Hela.

  • @G1Grimlock94
    @G1Grimlock94 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +177

    This is the first time Wenwu fighting Odin the king of Asgard

    • @snowshock8958
      @snowshock8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Wenwu keeps up very well.
      Too bad he could not leveling up the rings power.
      I guess this is Shang chi things.
      And Hela became all powerful at the end.

    • @EternalPayne
      @EternalPayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      ​@@snowshock8958Tbf Odin was holding back but respect to Wenwu

    • @arianalikens5300
      @arianalikens5300 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@EternalPaynehe still got koed by a punch from the ring lmfao the ten rings >>>> odin

    • @EternalPayne
      @EternalPayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@arianalikens5300this isn't prime odin

    • @Shourya899
      @Shourya899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​​@@arianalikens5300lol it's woke Disney in comics Odin and other Gods are skyfathwr level they one hit ko ki||ed Galactus and celestial like playing with toys and can change their appearance forever size form etc.. even Zeus is above multiversal he's like Thor ki|| a form of oblivion nothingness knull Hercules ki||ed oblivion omniversal form who ki||ed oblivion who literally destroy 99.99% of omniverse in comics etc.

  • @k.p.k-
    @k.p.k- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Odin was realy holding back and remember,odin wated hela to be good. Like,hela in human form survived a punch from odin 😂, i think it was odins plan to make hela good

    • @Gabris451
      @Gabris451 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It was at first he made enchant just like he did for thor - "Whoever is worthy gets the hela crown" According to his plan now she does Justice , end thanos and etc

    • @nexusgaminguniverse3722
      @nexusgaminguniverse3722 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Its just nad details and bad writing

    • @MOTIONSOLDIERR
      @MOTIONSOLDIERR 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s not in human form she’s still Asgardian and they are stronger.

    • @madness1261
      @madness1261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeh, cope more friend, here take more copium you will need it 😅

    • @MOMO-436
      @MOMO-436 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@MOTIONSOLDIERRNope. He literally turned her mortal like he did to thor. She literally says in the beginning after getting hit by Wenwu human soldier “mortal blood!?” So stop lying and spreading misinformation.

  • @rlopezosorio1975
    @rlopezosorio1975 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    If Loki can redeam him self, Hela too :)

    • @gustavopereira4924
      @gustavopereira4924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Uhm... nah? Hella was Power seeker among everything, Loki, on his own way wanted to earn his father proud and make "Asgard great again", Hella only wanted more and more power for the sake of it, that's why Odin stopped once He had enough to stablish peace, remind that He stopped interfering with other's Kingdoms doings;
      Hella's first action after coming back was literally wiping her own people... and the fact that in the what if They made her so concious about everything only makes it worse, Thor denied his mistakes and ways and was forced into a scenario where He was powerless, where He had to sacrifice that bad part of him... Hella just "Uh... maybe was bad, but again... it was all because of my father'

    • @entertainmentfan1463
      @entertainmentfan1463 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gustavopereira4924 That's wasn't what happened at all in the movie. Hela wanted to be the new leader of Asgard, but all the soldiers were upset she dumped Thor and Loki somewhere in the universe and were going to attack her regardless what she told them. She was basically forced to fight her own soldiers. The ones who didn't try to fight her were clearly the ones who got to live.
      Odin's biggest mistake in the movies was that rather than putting Hela through the trials and hardships to try and make her a better person like in here, he just dumped her in another dimension and tried to cover up his past and sweep it under the rug like his old tyrant self never existed.

    • @Justaguythatcameby
      @Justaguythatcameby หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gustavopereira4924 Hela was raised to be a conqueror, the only thing she knows how to do is murder so she wanted to continue doing what she was raised to do cause otherwise she wouldn't have a purpose, honestly sending her to earth to learn mercy seems like the best choice to take on that situation

  • @ymae2395
    @ymae2395 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    I loved this episode just one doubt if Gungnir uses Odins Power to operate, and without Odin its just another Uru spear, why does Hela think separating it from Odin will help them? I mean he can just directly use his Odinforce on them. Although we have never seen Odin fight without his spear and throw energy blasts.

    • @gustavopereira4924
      @gustavopereira4924 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Because by giving that simple statment the writers can nerf him... They used her to nerf him

    • @talonapex9775
      @talonapex9775 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      because then their story can go on.

    • @sagnikchatterjee7138
      @sagnikchatterjee7138 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Odin just went easy on them.

    • @Hecatolite_
      @Hecatolite_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just going on pure speculation here, but I think Gungnir may be something like what Stormbreaker is to Thor. Odin's full power comes from himself, but with a proper weapon, he is much more formidable.
      Also, since I refuse to believe Odin at what is probably the height of his power would be so easily defeated by a weakened asgardian and wenwu, my headcannon is that he acts as if he's less potent in combat without his spear than he really is, so that his enemies would falsely identify it as a weakness, and hela doesn't know that the weakness is fake.

  • @foamfan7593
    @foamfan7593 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +159

    5:59 thanos: not agaaaiinn

    • @Bowl849
      @Bowl849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Poor guy can’t catch a break in this show

    • @westside9032
      @westside9032 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanos solos fiction

    • @Wolf_Predator_2001
      @Wolf_Predator_2001 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanos This Time I'm Gonna Make Sure You Stay Dead 6:01

  • @calvinfujii5921
    @calvinfujii5921 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Good to hear Idris Elba back as Heimdall.

    • @vidurmakkar34
      @vidurmakkar34 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol that's not Idris

  • @Matt-ji9hj
    @Matt-ji9hj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    I knew Odin would be wasted but that was too much. The mcu never knew how to show his or Thor's true power

    • @aranha6285
      @aranha6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I know right!!!!
      Hela in the MCU: throws Knives and summons Zombies. Is a 3-Dimensional-Being and Odin’s Daughter.
      Hela in the Comics: is a 5 Dimensional Being, one of the living Aspects of Death, whose Avatar’s mere presence wraps reality on a Universal scale which causes the Souls of the Death to rise and serve her, argues with Mephisto over who gets more souls, conquers other Afterlives like Elysium, Duat and turns their rulers Osiris, Hades, Bast into her mindless minions. Owns Garm the Hellhound who tears Reality open with his claws and can swallow entire Planets and Souls to get stronger who even Dormammu fears. Let’s Hræsvelgr her Giant Galaxy Sized Eagle catch Uatu and all the Watchers for daring to interfere in her Realm and watches them get tortured by her giant Spiders for a thousand years.
      She is the True Goddess of Death and daughter of Loki 💀 ☠️ who stands above petty things such as good and evil unlike her father and Uncle

    • @Matt-ji9hj
      @Matt-ji9hj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @paradoxvexal Only to be mischaracterized and nerfed, a shadow of what Odin should be

    • @julianokeke3466
      @julianokeke3466 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Matt-ji9hjabsolutely. I don’t know what they are doing there in both the MCU and This.

    • @hersheysbar28
      @hersheysbar28 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@aranha6285 I know all of this sounds really cool to you, but you do realize how ridiculous all that would be on a movie screen right? Even in the animated TV shows they don't go all universal with it, that only works in comics lmao. Your average moviegoer would find it incredibly over-the-top. They made the right call here making it more grounded.

    • @AntoineB48
      @AntoineB48 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kind of defeats the purpose of this show being named “What if” doesn’t it????

  • @dannybauman1454
    @dannybauman1454 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Will ignore the fact that Odin is a good ruler. Simply liberating a world does not mean it will work better.

  • @raghavpareek6535
    @raghavpareek6535 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I thought Odin was much more than just relying on his gunjir

  • @madness1261
    @madness1261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Odin: you are powerless now! ---still can punch people to the air + few hours of breathing "training" and there u go, new magical air bending powaa! can beat the hell out of odin and not break a sweat 🤣
    "your world conquest must end!" - look at odins surprise pikachu face when helia says that, like biach, you wanted to go on and on without stopping!
    stunning and brave y'all, stunning and brave....

    • @jayv3264
      @jayv3264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So stunning and brave. Putting women in charge was such a leveling up. 🤮

  • @chicken7002
    @chicken7002 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love what they did to Hela. I wish she would stay like this forever. She is a worthy warrior for the Odinforce. A worthy daughter.

  • @Calvin_M.
    @Calvin_M. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    I always wondered why tf asgardians are on pretty much same level as ancient chinese army... Even worse they made Odin a weak old man💀

    • @hiroplay3774
      @hiroplay3774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      They are not on the same level, the one doing the heavy lifting was Wenwu with the 10 rings.

    • @Calvin_M.
      @Calvin_M. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@hiroplay3774 yeah, but still. We are talking about humans vs asgardians. They literally should've overwhelmed them with their military power...

    • @KyrosnoProductions
      @KyrosnoProductions 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Asian/Eastern deities OP please nerf.

    • @EmptyMan000
      @EmptyMan000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KyrosnoProductions The Eastern Deities weren't even there.

    • @Calvin_M.
      @Calvin_M. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @paradoxvexal yeah, and I got super disappointed honestly. I mean he wasn't supposed to be this weak.

  • @martymighty3183
    @martymighty3183 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    We finally get to see Odin show and his abilities.
    DADDYS HOME🥶🥶🥶

    • @shivamdas7466
      @shivamdas7466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it was nothing, Odin has powers beyond his weapon gungnir, lol they nerfed him

  • @containedhurricane
    @containedhurricane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Very cool animation, but Hela will never be able to defeat Odin in his prime

    • @Gabris451
      @Gabris451 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well The arts of air + Crown as you saw she defeated him when she was worthy

    • @arianalikens5300
      @arianalikens5300 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They just did

    • @containedhurricane
      @containedhurricane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Gabris451 Odin could take her powers away as he did to Thor

    • @spideyspits1667
      @spideyspits1667 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@arianalikens5300Odin was clearly nerfed

    • @EternalPayne
      @EternalPayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@paradoxvexalhe was dying lol
      But if you're referring to when he banished her he didn't want to...

  • @ERuth0420
    @ERuth0420 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man, Hela in What If season 2 is the Galadriel we should've gotten in Rings of Power.

  • @aranha6285
    @aranha6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I kinda hate how the MCU nerfed Asgard
    Hela in the MCU: throws Knives and summons Zombies. Is a 3-Dimensional-Being and Odin’s Daughter.
    Hela in the Comics: is a 5 Dimensional Being, one of the living Aspects of Death, whose Avatar’s mere presence wraps reality on a Universal scale which causes the Souls of the Death to rise and serve her, argues with Mephisto over who gets more souls, conquers other Afterlives like Elysium, Duat and turns their rulers Osiris, Hades, Bast into her mindless minions. Owns Garm the Hellhound who tears Reality open with his claws and can swallow entire Planets and Souls to get stronger who even Dormammu fears. Let’s Hræsvelgr her Giant Galaxy Sized Eagle catch Uatu and all the Watchers for daring to interfere in her Realm and watches them get tortured by her giant Spiders for a thousand years.
    She is the True Goddess of Death and daughter of Loki 💀 ☠️ who stands above petty things such as good and evil unlike her father(Loki), her Aunts (Morrigan, Angela, Idun) and Uncles (Thor, Balder, Vidar)
    The MCU turned the entire Norse Pantheon into Aliens like the Thanagarians instead of the Gods and higher Dimensional Beings that they actually are

    • @Fii_Vocalz
      @Fii_Vocalz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That is why it is called What if..?? Don't expect everything to be the same all the time. In some part of the multiverse Hela became good

    • @millennialaviation
      @millennialaviation 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This whole comment is giving “🤓” energy lol

    • @aranha6285
      @aranha6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fii_Vocalz Hela never was evil

    • @ВладиславСигов-р1х
      @ВладиславСигов-р1х 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Согласен
      Локи (в комиксах) : манипулирует Хель и Мефисто, чтобы вычеркнуть своё имя из книг Ада и становится Бессмертным(каждый раз когда Локи умирает, он может переродиться в выбранном им самим обличии)
      Гениальный тактик и стратег(заставил Одина усыновить себя и стал Богом зла и вреда)
      Опытный воин (сражался со многими командами Супергероев в том числе Люди Икс)
      Могущественный маг и Бог (может сражаться с Богом Смерти Сетом на его территории)
      Устойчив к внешним и магическим воздействиям (диск послушания на него не оказывает никакого эффекта, Роуг не может забрать его силы, Мандарин со своими кольцами для него ничто, Шторм не может навредить ему своими молниями)
      В фильмах он постоянно использует лишь кинжалы и иллюзии
      Ненавижу то как КВМ обошлась с Богами(

    • @feete7993
      @feete7993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@millennialaviation so because somebody wants to educate us on a topic it's nerdy?

  • @jhoncarlomartin4405
    @jhoncarlomartin4405 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    so now she is Hela the Goddess of Life???????

    • @kinjalroy9407
      @kinjalroy9407 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It's very similar to Goddess of Justice Hela from Marvel Super War game.

    • @jamstoo
      @jamstoo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@kinjalroy9407 this is what i thought of haha

    • @kinjalroy9407
      @kinjalroy9407 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jamstoo anyone who has played the game will

    • @aranha6285
      @aranha6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kinjalroy9407 GOD I HATE HOW THE MCU BUTCHERED THE LORE AROUND THOR AND ASGARD FROM THE COMICS AND MYTHOLOGY!!!!!
      Hela in the MCU: throws Knives and summons Zombies. Is a 3-Dimensional-Being and Odin’s Daughter.
      Hela in the Comics: is a 5 Dimensional Being, one of the living Aspects of Death, whose Avatar’s mere presence wraps reality on a Universal scale which causes the Souls of the Death to rise and serve her, argues with Mephisto over who gets more souls, conquers other Afterlives like Elysium, Duat and turns their rulers Osiris, Hades, Bast into her mindless minions. Owns Garm the Hellhound who tears Reality open with his claws and can swallow entire Planets and Souls to get stronger who even Dormammu fears. Let’s Hræsvelgr her Giant Galaxy Sized Eagle catch Uatu and all the Watchers for daring to interfere in her Realm and watches them get tortured by her giant Spiders for a thousand years.
      She is the True Goddess of Death and daughter of Loki 💀 ☠️ who stands above petty things such as good and evil unlike her father(Loki), her Aunts (Morrigan, Angela, Idun) and Uncles (Thor, Balder, Vidar)
      The MCU turned the entire Norse Pantheon into Aliens like the Thanagarians instead of the Gods and higher Dimensional Beings that they actually are

    • @adrianuribe1057
      @adrianuribe1057 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What if wenwu had taken helas crown and powers.

  • @DarkGXA04
    @DarkGXA04 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Somehow, exposure to the space stones power gives people powers First Captain Marvel, and now a whole tribe just makes you think what other powers the stones could give you

  • @ThatOneRussianTank
    @ThatOneRussianTank หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always loved Wenwu. A badass Chinese warlord living for hundreds of years after finding the power equivalent to a God's.

  • @subscorpion9560
    @subscorpion9560 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Definitely my favorite episode. Love seeing Hela more than just a villain and world of Asgard meeting the world of Ten Rings/Tao Lo. I love Hela’s development similar to Thor and Loki. Plus I like seeing Wenwu being able to take down multiple asgardians with ease (and as ever being an Amazon chaser lol)

  • @Destiny-ze2gz
    @Destiny-ze2gz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Helas white suite is beautiful 😍

  • @myliege8197
    @myliege8197 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    While the What If series suffers so much from power balancing and plot armor, it has better fight choreography and creativity than the main MCU.

  • @TheTruMan196
    @TheTruMan196 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    As much as I loved this episode I'm kinda annoyed that Hela's skull wasn't literally atomized at 3:21, guess the writers forgot that Hela is mortal during the fight lol

    • @juandirection3751
      @juandirection3751 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Odin held back lol he doesnt wanna kill his daughter

    • @johnlee5383
      @johnlee5383 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought her body is still like that of a god just powerless

    • @jcdejesus2296
      @jcdejesus2296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Someone forgot to watch Thor Ragnarok

    • @Zaacdrums
      @Zaacdrums 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnlee5383nah Odin turned her mortal. She even bled “mortal blood” when she got punched by one of wen wu soldiers

    • @Jake-cm9jj
      @Jake-cm9jj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you miss the part where she had a training montage in the Ta Lo magic and martial arts? That shit completely owned Wenwu with the 10 rings in the movie, and Hela got to add that onto her already unmatched fighting skills...it is pretty clear even as a mortal her fighting skills are beyond anyone else, then she learned asian magic...OP template stacking yo...

  • @deklineansah
    @deklineansah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    6:00 thanos realized he’s not built for this😂

    • @westside9032
      @westside9032 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanos solos fiction

    • @skibidiohiosigma92
      @skibidiohiosigma92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@westside9032not really

    • @westside9032
      @westside9032 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skibidiohiosigma92 yes really

  • @shravannn13
    @shravannn13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:01 i love how morris is just flying behind them lol

  • @OsmanCortes-d8k
    @OsmanCortes-d8k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    hate that nerfed odin but still liked the episode

  • @KasaiWolf07
    @KasaiWolf07 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how Hela gets to ride Fenris when Wenwu has to run on the rings lol

  • @KennethJensen600
    @KennethJensen600 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why would they ever Nerf Odin this much.. the all father turned into someone that needs to"fight" 10 rings..

  • @sebastianrussso6958
    @sebastianrussso6958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love how he has a pointy spear yet he never tries to stab anyone with it

  • @torav8343
    @torav8343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It was great seeing hela explored more

  • @SaintJosh-gs9gr
    @SaintJosh-gs9gr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing how the thought of hela being a hero feels❤❤❤

  • @DarkWarden041
    @DarkWarden041 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'd love to see this Hela meet MCU Thor. Imagine that awkward reunion. 😂

  • @russward2612
    @russward2612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found it, took a chance, hit the jackpot. This was quite enjoyable. Well done.

  • @atifa3.0
    @atifa3.0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wow man love it❤❤❤❤❤

  • @efaristi9737
    @efaristi9737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that's really the thing i don't like about how Marvel represent Asgardians. Aside from a few, they aren't much different from mortals and even thoses fews rely too much on magic trinkets.
    4:33 That line is inspiring though, it reflect how death is part of life, not apart from it.

  • @maniackz5879
    @maniackz5879 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    next we gonna see thanos fkn become the hero while the avengers become the villains 💀💀💀💀💀

    • @Somdeb10
      @Somdeb10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well we kinda saw this already in season 1, although not the last part, the ep when t’challa was taken by Yondu instead of Quill, thanos became a hero fighting against his own minions

  • @michaeleansan2730
    @michaeleansan2730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They really depowered Odin for this one. And they really supping up those 10 rings. Odins a god. Even without the staff he should’ve easily solo both but it’s Disney writers these days.

  • @raihanaditya4266
    @raihanaditya4266 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Is it just me or the scene were hel's helmet fly to her its looks exactly like the scene when mjolnir fly to thor in thor movie

    • @ThorMAN.
      @ThorMAN. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes

    • @UltraMenace
      @UltraMenace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that was the intention

  • @DavidEvans_dle
    @DavidEvans_dle หลายเดือนก่อน

    That helmet was just "Worthy Waiting" for decades.. .

  • @vedangrane96
    @vedangrane96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is the sexiest episode ever 💯💯❤️

  • @MrSteve-hy9yo
    @MrSteve-hy9yo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And this is why it's called "What if" since in the real story line this fight would have been over in seconds as no one on that world would have been close to Odin.

  • @hexxentheownerer1031
    @hexxentheownerer1031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    tbh i hated how under powered odin is in this.. he should of completly wrecked them both lol also not a fan of how the ten rings or portrayed in the mcu.. other than that dope episode!! hela is sucha badass character.

  • @YTDaveyyyy
    @YTDaveyyyy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hela's deusex machina was the power of love giving her more power that doesnt exist. This is absolutely the most disney thing that was made in this century

  • @SahilKChauhan
    @SahilKChauhan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Odin is way more powerful than 10 rings and Hella both he has universal level powers. He can easily destroy thousand of Hella and 10 rings holder. 😊😊😊

  • @kingki1953
    @kingki1953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how we got all odinson redemption to peak of their purpose:
    Thor in Thor film (first MCU film after Iron Man 1)
    Loki in his Loki series
    Hela in What If episode 6 season 2

  • @Erik-z5g
    @Erik-z5g 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Best: Wen wu punched odin so hard, old man sharted his pants and for a minute didnt know where he was hahaha 😅😂😅

  • @RathOfRey
    @RathOfRey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope we get to see more of this Hela in the next season, she was honestly my favourite

  • @StoriesofSerenity-s7r
    @StoriesofSerenity-s7r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nah ! That's not possible, Odin never defeated by anyone........

  • @StoriesofSerenity-s7r
    @StoriesofSerenity-s7r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Odin is great diplomate, cause he balanced 9 realms, by single handed

  • @SyJz906
    @SyJz906 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro this was absolute bs, Odin was done dirty 💀💀

  • @0megacron
    @0megacron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The MCU nerfed all of the non-human Avengers, but Thor and Odin especially. Odin is the most powerful of the Skyfathers, which pretty much makes him one of the most powerful gods in the Marvel universe. He is VASTLY more powerful than Hela, and Tenwu's just a human with alien technology. Heck, once Thor got the Odin-Force, he eventually fought and killed Galactus. GALACTUS.

  • @blaydeesy2005
    @blaydeesy2005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Odin is so much more powerful than this 🙄

    • @jadenward296
      @jadenward296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it’s a what if buddy

  • @RK99KR
    @RK99KR หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this version of Hela. This wouldve made such an amazing movie in the MCU.

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    the darkeast hearts settign aside their differences they coudld change thanos for the better adn thoanos changing thme

  • @snbforever
    @snbforever 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I LIKE this version of Hera, MUCH better ❤

  • @samluke4440
    @samluke4440 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanos in trouble XD

  • @kingbernard_30
    @kingbernard_30 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This episode is insane! My favorite one so far 🔥

  • @Quzema
    @Quzema 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yes nerf , yet another powerhouse(odin) msheu for ya

    • @progaming3394
      @progaming3394 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Feeling very bad that they nerfed another powerhouse just to show a female more powerful 😔😔

  • @Gigan09
    @Gigan09 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hela got the Thor treatment in this episode

  • @Khooni-p3i
    @Khooni-p3i 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hela the godess of life!!

  • @suruxstrawde8322
    @suruxstrawde8322 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fitting, considering in the og lore of Hél- she has dominion over life and death both, being neither and both herself, literally part zombie looking. This makes her functionally immortal, indestructible, and able to control any life force at will.

  • @mikelv1
    @mikelv1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The kahori stuff was honest mid

    • @oblivion1398
      @oblivion1398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Agreed the grandmaster Tony part was fire 🔥

    • @prophecybydefault4708
      @prophecybydefault4708 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yh that's bs.

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@oblivion1398Nah. That wasn't it I'm sorry. The Kahori was pretty good.

    • @oblivion1398
      @oblivion1398 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SOM-v4o
      Huh the Tony-grandmaster part wasn't good?
      Also the kahori stuff was mid because there was no powerful villains
      Let's just put a tribe of really fast and powerful characters against the Spanish conqueror like I mean c'mon I am not complaining abt the character but a better challange maybe? Cause all she had to do was unlock her inner self and she alone could have soloed the entire army like I mean where's the challange?

    • @kripidir
      @kripidir 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@oblivion1398 tbf there's no need for a great big bad always

  • @MADBD619
    @MADBD619 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Battles between Gods. It might as well be a stable of all comic book franchises at this point! You just can’t live without them! Well, not ALL comic book franchises, mind you!

  • @Keiwa_Sakurai
    @Keiwa_Sakurai 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wonder if Odin (Gow) could have hela a great challenge?

    • @Shourya899
      @Shourya899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol comics version of Gods are more accurate in real and Norse texts already lost or destroyed in 10th century A.d only 12th and 14th centuryeddas and 8th century eddas comics Gods one knock destroyed and scale above multiversal on an average and there is multiverse unlike plot Armor GoW is overrated fodder soul games bosses on k.O do that or even shin megami tensei character one k.o danate kratos doom slayer are in reality are overrated fodders actually m@rderes underrated RPGs and actually good games

    • @Keiwa_Sakurai
      @Keiwa_Sakurai 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Shourya899 lmao ig 🤣 but Odin (Gow) has more magic hax and experience given his history

    • @EternalPayne
      @EternalPayne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Keiwa_Sakuraimarvel odin from comics negs gow lmao

    • @aranha6285
      @aranha6285 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Keiwa_SakuraiGOW Odin at max is around the same Level as Kid Loki in the Comics

    • @Keiwa_Sakurai
      @Keiwa_Sakurai 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aranha6285 oh

  • @Mystify0324
    @Mystify0324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This series just proves given a better backstory and not a tragic one, many villians would have actually became heroes.

  • @PugMaxer
    @PugMaxer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Wow I'm glad Im not a disney plus subscriber. I would feel ripped off.
    Pure distilled Boomer truth

    • @ThirstyEdits
      @ThirstyEdits 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      the ep was fire cry bout it

    • @tenjenk
      @tenjenk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God comments being this pathetically pretentious is an eyesore.

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      There has been some great episodes though. Can't wait for tomorrow.

    • @GoHazyQuietSexAngel
      @GoHazyQuietSexAngel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Pure distilled boomer truth"
      Who tf says dumb s**t like this. You think you sound cool, but you couldn't have sounded more like the tool you are. And that's real talk.

    • @adarshmishra9685
      @adarshmishra9685 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you're an OnlyFans subscriber

  • @proman9297
    @proman9297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know Odin has been nerfed when he is fighting these mortals hand to hand🤡

  • @TylerSmith-ue1mv
    @TylerSmith-ue1mv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was dumb.

    • @progaming3394
      @progaming3394 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was dumb 🤔

    • @Gilbert.Suhendra
      @Gilbert.Suhendra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@progaming3394fan Boy

  • @bossjohnny6355
    @bossjohnny6355 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hela went through 2 heroes journey thor's banishment and learning something out of it and dr strange meets mystic type training

  • @megalon73
    @megalon73 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Between Hela & Wenwu vs. Odin and Kahhori & Captain Carter vs Supreme Strange are my two favorite fights.

  • @TheChardluz
    @TheChardluz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pl
    ease let this be hella redemption arc.

  • @jmd9402
    @jmd9402 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if the ending was actually odin returning with an evil thor and loki

  • @DzReacts
    @DzReacts หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:56 this punch had to hurt bad 😂

  • @darkseid1341
    @darkseid1341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well at least we finally get to see Odin’s fighting skills and how powerful he is.

  • @gigitony4170
    @gigitony4170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mad respect for Odin taking on two deadly warriors at once, he could have ended this fight in seconds if he wanted to 😎, he was holding back a lot.

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do think that too. I mean, he sent his daughter to Earth to learn and grow. Clearly, he did not want to truly end her.

  • @Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl
    @Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    Rip Thanos masterpiece plan😂

    • @SOM-v4o
      @SOM-v4o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      An adopted baby for Odin with Gamora.

    • @Shourya899
      @Shourya899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​I don't think Odin and wein wu army would give Thanos a chance to be alive because he is soo evil he ki||ed and do many and things and destroy many lives​ even don't spare kids and children@@SOM-v4o

    • @pthespidey5057
      @pthespidey5057 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh yes.. also would thor be born in this universe? Pretty sure shang chi isnt going to born here lol

    • @o0_VanYsH_0o
      @o0_VanYsH_0o 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      XD, it's actually sort of accurate even outside of "What If" that Thanos waited for Odin and Hela to kick the bucket before engaging his plan, because even with the infinity stones, the only two that could actually surpass his power was Odin and Hela. Hela actually can't die, Odin has confirmed that in the comics, so he waited for her to be "Physically" killed (Sent back to her realm to regain power when she was destroyed by Surtr) before searching for the stones.

    • @Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl
      @Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@o0_VanYsH_0o I don't think odin against Thanos with stone!
      Odin is overrated! He might be powerful in comic but i don't think he is in mcu

  • @somtowyer3221
    @somtowyer3221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like "what if?" series, cuz it looks like comic book movie❤️💯

  • @dweemiesdarkmount
    @dweemiesdarkmount 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always imagine Asgardians would only need to send one foot soldier to take out any human army because they are basically god-like beings and the likes of Odin, Loki, Hela and Thor are above them but oh well. making them fodder is just disappointing.

  • @fydenciarichardson2844
    @fydenciarichardson2844 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wenwu is my favorite character and hala vs Odin that fight was good 👍

  • @Abdurrohman_7595
    @Abdurrohman_7595 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whatever anybody says, I believe the Loki resembled Odin way more than Thor ever has.

  • @francesottewill2538
    @francesottewill2538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If that actually happened I feel like infinity war and end game might have never happened

  • @CetusVid
    @CetusVid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a disgrace to the All-Father. By all known metrics, Odin would have obliterated them.

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope dragon skin armor becomes more prevalent in the future of the mcu. There are tons of characters that it would fit well with. Iron fist or Karl mordo for instance.

  • @ourplanet4368
    @ourplanet4368 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to see those rings to be used as the iconic finger rings with their powers🔥
    I was hoping they would somehow show it in S2 but they didn't 😭