Berlin Strings First Chair, Cinematic Studio Solo Strings, Spitfire Solo Strings, VSL Solo Strings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- 1. Solo Strings Layered on Ensemble Strings
2. Berling Strings First Chair
3. Cinematic Studio Solo Strings
4. Spitfire Solo Strings
5. Vienna Solo Strings
6. Vianne Solo Strings layered on Vienna Orchestral Strings
7. Cinematic Studio Solo Strings layered on Cinematic Strings
8. Berlin Strings First Chair layered on Cinematic Strings
9. Solo Strings layered each other
Original Music by Yuki Kajiura.
Arranged and Performed by ArcanaShift.
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1:42 Berlin Strings First Chair
3:14 Cinematic Studio Solo Strings
4:47 Spitfire Solo Strings
6:19 Vienna Solo Strings
IMO the best sound came out when all the solo strings were blended together into an ensemble... the subtle differences in textures, tuning, and dynamics of each solo library actually felt like individual human players playing together... You can almost still hear each player... Not like the robotic unison we usually get from pre-recorded string ensembles.
1. Solo Strings Layered on Ensemble Strings 0:09
2. Berling Strings First Chair 1:14
3. Cinematic Studio Solo Strings 3:13
4. Spitfire Solo Strings 4:47
5. Vienna Solo Strings 6:18
6. Vianne Solo Strings layered on Vienna Orchestral Strings 7:50
7. Cinematic Studio Solo Strings layered on Cinematic Strings 9:23
8. Berlin Strings First Chair layered on Cinematic Strings 10:56
9. Solo Strings layered each other 12:28
Amazing piece, man. After this video i think music is more important that instruments, because they are only ways to realise your feelings. All of these libraries can translate them, and it is main idea. This piece also will sound amazing if it was played by saw oscillators.
Sorry, English isn't my main language
2:14 This section starting here is absolutely divine on the Berlin First Chairs. The low end is unmatched by the others. If you're listening on a phone you won't hear it. Berlin also sounds the best to me overall, which was a surprise so thank you. The Spitfire sounds odd here, instrument placement/separation is very poor, almost sounds out of phase to me, perhaps a panning issue?
I just started watching Sword Art Online and I knew I already heard this beautiful music before. It was here
Same
After careful listening here are my thoughts.
Solo Only:
1. CSSS - even with the heavy vibrato it sounded the most authentic, both the sound, the vibrato, the legato... and the ROOM. not too dry and not too washed, just intimate enough.
2. Berlin - nice sound but a bit too washed, too distant/big for solo quartet like. for such a saddened piece of music that doesn't work. plus CSSS's legato worked better.
3. Spitfire - its in third place only cause Vienna was worse.
4. Vienna - what a disappointment.
Solo layered on ensemble:
1. CSS+CSSS - this piece of music was just tailored for Cinematic Studio's libs with their romantic warm "vintage hollywood" sound.
2. VSL combo - what a surprise! when VSL solo was layered on the ensemble, that masked all the flaws of the solos and left just the sound, which was nice.
3. Berlin - the not so stellar legato of the first chairs was very obvious even when layered, over all the whole wasn't better then the sum of the parts.
Remark:
Why on earth did you use the classic (legacy) legato of CSSS?
What's amazing is that CSSS still managed to work better here... says a lot.
Also, true, CSSS's vibrato is hard to work with, but it suits pieces of music exactly like the one used here, so it was a success.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The reason why I used classic legato in CSSS was that I just wanted to play out of the box only using CC1 and CC11. Put simply, my laziness. ;)
Dear Sir, how would you rank Cine Strings Solo library?
I can’t decide between csss or spitfire solo strings
3:37. CSS should not uses like that. has more nature legato, you need to adjust manually. it s a sound library has more potential, but takes time
exactly this, don't use the classic legato patches.
To my ears, 9:23 begins the most luscious tone of all these.
Never thought that one day i will say that VSL is not as good as many composers think...As i see in this video,VSL sounds worse that the rest. ...
Totally. I mentioned it sounds like an Accordion. Awful.
Something is verys much off with the sound here. I all of these except the vienna solo strings and CSS and SSS sound very different for me (better).
That's interesting, they layering of each solo library onto an ensemble changed my impression quite a bit. I think that's where solo strings shines.
every solo library sounds bad if you forgot to change vibrato level
Thank you SOOO much this really helped me decide what to buy. Extremely useful video!!!
You're very welcome. I'm happy this video helps you. :)
And The Audiobro first chair? I use the Spitfire but I also use the FC from audiobro and it sounds really good. By the way, that is a nice theme. Well done.
Cinematic solo layered with Cinematic Strings sounds lovely however Berlin First Chairs wins for me. They all sound great though. It's a truly wonderful reflection of where music tech is at right now!
Thanks a lot for your comment ! xD
I'm agree, Berlin First Chairs really good overall, but if I want to compose really really emotional piece CSSS will do the job
The real issue is that vibrato sounds too fake.. when a string player plays a vibrato it's not a quantized like those. it increases then descreases .. As a pro string player i can say that CSSS is the best overall. But still not have the "warm" feel of the real thing.
OMG I just want to compare the library and it comes out my favourite music
I think that this comparison does not work. You have to dip really deep into each to get the best out of and you cannot simply copy paste the regions and exchange the controller numbers. I heard far more and better solo strings examples of VSL than here. So I guess some of the compared parts are not really made out of their best here.
Berlin sounded great as standalone.
damn. Viena Solo strings sound like an accordion or a soft organ or...just BAD!
For that cinematic sound, out the box Berlin strings win easily - a big part is due to that big natural environmental reverb - while recently learning to mix, I found if you fix the stereo imbalance and put a top tier reverb on the detailed Spitfire strings it easily takes the crown.
Spitfire with a good reverb gives you that same smooth (Berlin-like) finished surrounding warm cinematic feeling while also giving you the detail and emotion of the strings and players.
But I'm a noob, so don't take my word for it, go trying it yourself!
Let me guess, you own Berlin strings??
What did you do to fix the stereo imbalance? Such a weird decision but I assume the thought process was to save fiddling about which is Spitfire's whole thing!
I think Spitfires solo sounds better than all......VSL vs these ones sounds like Edirol Orchestral vs Miroslav Philarmonik......That big....diference....
Awesome demo and a beautiful composition. All the multi layered libraries sound amazing!
I did notice the difference when it comes to vibrato on the Berlin SC vs CSSS, and I would say that a somewhat more discrete handling of the vibrato on CSSC would put them first in my view. Amazing piece and good video!
A bit strong vibrato on CSSS has been said often. You got the point ! Thank you for watching.
Simply beautiful!
lmaooo love that you test those libraries in the ost of sword art online hahha
CSS and CSSS have optin for controling the vibrato so it can appear and disappear which if controlled properly can bring miraculous sound. Beautiful video and beautiful music BTW
Hello, this is a wonderful demo, thank you so much! And the music is gorgeous. May I ask please, anyone, what is meant in the comment below, by "Adagio can fill the presence, flowing and moving in the background..." What is Adagio? I am reposting the question here in the hopes that it will be seen. Thanks in advance!
I think that means 8Dio Adagio Strings. ;)
Yes nice and very good orchestration....bravo
10:56 ♥
At last, somebody else using cakewalk. I don't feel like such a cheapskate now.
vsl solo strings is the biggest rip off !! the Spiccato sounds like your honking a bike horn ! IT sound so weak and cheap and makes me sick to stomach !! I wish I never bought It !!
Berlin and CSSS are the best two
Have you tried the embertone ISS? If so, how would you say it compares?
I’m looking to add some solo string or even small quartet sections to some of my music similar to Bush’s Glycerin. It’d be nice if it had some versatility to it as well
I love Berlin the best, but I'm surprised that VSL solos hold up as well as they do. I stopped using them so much a long time ago, maybe I should take another look at them
i find myself going back with fresh ears to my VSL libraries and finding them better than i remember.
I've personally never used them but I heard the you can get a ton of good sound slamming some high def convoluiton reverb on them and use scripting wisely.
Beautiful composition 🙏 I see too many layered solo strings videos but nobody talking about how-to programming difficulties because of the expressions and MIDI CC differences for each library. And it's a very expensive setup compare to string ensemble libraries 🥶😱 How much time do you spend on this piece to program it?
CSSS Violas and V2’s with the rest of the Berlin and first chair sound incredible
None of the solo instruments sound good on their own, only once layered with something else which is a great technique.
amazing piece, great video!!
Holy shit Cinematic Studio Strings and Solo Strings sound amazing
Did you do this plugging into Finale or Sibelius?
Sorry I'm late, but this was my favorite piece from SAO. Really great mockup.
good demo
Great video, Thanks for share!
9:24 CSS + CSSS
10:56 CSS + Berlin
I love that melody is the best💖💗💗
This song is the transcription of Sword Art Online, yeah ! You surely knew it Bulma ! Thanks for watching :)
ArcanaShift Music Yes, it was one of the first animes I saw and I loved it.
berlin
very well done video! thank you
Why didn't you use the 8Dio solo strings from Anthology?
Great music, much better than any sample library!)
Great
pc requirements please
Very nice.. Love this.. Feels relexing
yuki kajiura wow !
thank you so much!!!!
awesome thank you for that awesome comparison. Do Berlin & CSSS have both Ensemble patches & can u control the vibrato on both? thx
a tip on your panning buddy, always lead melody in middle, it needs attention and focus so that listener dont hear it from one side, centre it, focus it, most important, forget about orchestral seating and positions when u do mixdown, try it and more expression. adagio can fill the presence, flowing and moving in the background. cut your instruments low pass high pass and get focus on the parts. orchestral strings are automatically better since it fills both channels.
Thanks for your advice.
Hello, this is a wonderful demo, thank you so much. And the music is gorgeous. May I ask please, anyone, what is meant here by "Adagio can fill the presence, flowing and moving in the background..." What is Adagio? Thanks in advance!
Thanks a lot,great.
Thank you.
@@ArcanaShift Thanks for this. I dont own these libraries so I ask: Why there is such a difference on the low end in OT Berlin Vs all the others? Does it include a Bass whereas don't? Thx
Do you know the name of this piece ?
That's late but it's "In Your Past" from Sword Art Online
Maybe it's the great room, but all the Berlin stuff sounds more realistic than anything else.
spitfire has the best vibrato & has this humanity , CSSS sound’s good but the vibrato doesn’t sound real played...
VSL Solos are clearly the most authentic sounding and their detail is remarkable.
Seriously? They sound like they have a super sudden attack and release, almost as if they're half generated by a synth. I mean, that's what I hear, sure, they sound a bit better layered with the Ensemble. In terms of solo strings In this list, nothing really compares to Berlin's First Chairs.
@@AlexanderSir This demo actually talked me out of the Vienna product line. That and Danny Elfman saying he pretty much only uses Vienna for demos. Clearly he doesn't think they sound 100% real either. They were the only game in town for a good long while though. Glad to hear I can be making better use of CSSS, which I have.
@@AlexanderSir I agree, not the worst but least natural sounding for sure.
Berlin Strings first chairs are the best ones in my opinion. Really beautiful and natural sound. I own the Berlin Strings whole library and never tried better strings library. Cinematic Studio Strings are good too but not same level in my opinion.
Hi men, yes Berlin is natural end realistic sound more original ....and level....berlin str the King.
Thank you, that was really helpful! After lots of videos, Berlin is the winner for me when it comes to solos right now. The only library in this video to give me goosebumps.
Csss sounds the best for me even though the vibrato is a little bit to much sometimes.
CSSS has its own uniqueniess. Thanks for watching. :)
you can balance it with CC2 automations
What Marco Longo said. You can make it sound as flat as a plate if you want
How "layered"? I don t get it. Please can you explain? Thanks
This is awesome, getting to hear SAO soundtrack played with these beautiful sample libraries. Awesome stuff. One of my favorite anime
Spitfire may be an older library, but its def the most expressive of the bunch!
Whats the name of the daw?
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