I Didn't Expect This! 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 vs 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2023
- Since I've driven both, I thought it would be interesting to see how these midsize truck competitors stack up for price and features. I compare the 2024 GMC Canyon AT4 vs the 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road and I'm shocked what I discover.
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For what it is worth, I've had my 2023 Canyon AT4 since March and have 15k miles on it now, GM 1.5" suspension lift on 285/75r17 tires. I love this truck, traded my 2022 F150 in on it and never looked back! It's been a great truck and feels so much better than the previous gen, rides great and plenty of power. No problems with mine knock on wood! It's been the perfect size for me and does more than what I ever need a truck to do
Glad you love it, I will get a Colorado Trail Boss in a few years. Can't wait
Talk to me in 5 years when both trucks have 100,000 miles on them. Suddenly the value will perspective will seem much more clear on resale. Just drive a 5 year old GMC vs a similar Toyota you will know why Toyota’s hold their value and people are willing to pay for that.
I’m not a Toyota fan especially with what the dealers have been doing to its loyal customers but there is no arguing with build quality, resale value and maintenance costs when compared. Toyota is always worth a few thousand more dollars once those figures and considerations are taken into account.
@@Seaward1224 I didn't pay 48k on a truck worried about the next owner, I bought it because I liked it the most for me personally. Vehicles are not investments in the sense you're ever going to make all your money out of them if you hang onto them a while. I'm not worried about a few thousand five years from now
@@Seaward1224The jury is out on the new turbo engine for the new Tacoma. Reliability and turbos aren’t the norm. Can Toyota change that maybe but from what I have seen so far with various TH-camrs so far the new Tacoma engine is looking pretty underwhelming for sure. The GMC looks like the bargain right now.
@@kennordsfan1494 i’d buy a Nissan frontier before GM product. They have a way better reliability score
We’ve had 4 Colorado/Canyons at work now starting with a ‘15 which went 375k with no major repairs (put in a new engine and transmission and it went to 465k). Our ‘19 has 300k on it, no major repairs and the other 2 are around 150k each, no major issues. I know these are a new design now, but the performance and reliability has been rock solid. We also have a phenomenal dealer that takes care of us really well. That’s definitely part of the equation. The G80 locker is awesome for folks who aren’t hardcore off-roading, but run the trucks in bad weather, job sites, etc. It’s always “on” in 2hi, 4hi, 4lo, doesn’t matter. We’re looking to buy two AT4s soon.
Hi Tim-
Thanks for going over all the details very helpful.
I’m a die hard Tacoma fan but $6k is $6k. Glad I have my 2022 3rd Gen Off Road. Paid $41k. Reliability is a plus for me. The average owner doesn’t keep their trucks long enough to need that level of reliability. They trade too often. I plan to keep mine. But if I were one to trade off more frequently I’d be more likely to save the $6k and go with the GMC.
and tbh its not just going to be 6k, the dealer will have a mark up for the Taco for sure minimum 5K
If you are not going to keep the truck long enough to find out about reliability, then you have to go by trade in value to really find out if 6 grand is 6 grand.
Prices are crazy but in the end when someone like me looks for a truck,, reliability is always a major selling point and with the track record of these GM midsized trucks I would never take a chance on them. Now if I could change trucks every 2 years then it wouldn't matter but I keep things for a longer time and higher mileage.
I have had my 2023 Canyon since March and it is reliable rugged, and high tech with impressive styling. I disagree, I have seen Tacomas with peeling paint and engine and drive train issues just like other brands, but it's rare. If someone loves a particular brand and plans on keeping it than they will most likely get an extended warranty on it once the factory warranty runs out. Canyon is the best truck I have ever owned and I have been owning GM trucks for over 40 years and never sold any of my trucks because of continuous quality issues. Electronics seems to be an issue as auto companies have gone through growing pains with the suppliers that produce these high tech software and touch screens but most are reliable compared to 15 year old technologies.
@@johnwhitneykokalis9990Wow! how many miles do you have on you 2023. I really don't see how you can say it reliable and you've had it less than a year. There are many owners of Canyons that are complaining about their issues which I'll post a video below. You can say that about Tacoma's but they will have way less problems than any other midsized truck and that has been proven year after year after year. My son has a 2023 TRD OFF Road Tacoma since January 0f 23 and of course no problems at all but that is expected of a Tacoma and 1 year is no test for it. Check this video because for every 1 person who says they have had no problem with their Canyons you can find 5 more that do have problems.
th-cam.com/video/iUumOKF0Uno/w-d-xo.html
The Tacomas now come with new 4 cylinder engines and powertrains that aren't proven. The GMC/Chevy comes with 2.7L 4cylinders that have already been used in the Silverado/Sierra for the past 2 to 3 years, with very little issues. Its basically a diesel engine made to run on gas. I trust they will run just fine for long term reliability. If you want a new midsize truck that still has a v6 in it, the Nissan Frontier is your only option, I test drove that one, while its perfectly fine, its not anything special and the interior is more bland than plain oatmeal.
On top of that, the price difference in a tacoma with the leather package becomes even greater and youre looking at 8k difference on both trucks. Toyota is delusional.
Those prices are crazy. I did some comparisons on real estate over the past 4 years and the prices are nearly double! I don't think trucks are quite double yet, but at least 1.5x what they used to be 4 years ago. That would be an interesting video to compare base, mid, and premium truck prices over the last 5 years or so.
I had a 2007 Tacoma, TRD off road, 4 door, short bed. I paid 27,500 for it, sticker was 32,000…if I remember right.
I have a 2023 canyon now, Denali trim. It was around 52k.
Truck prices are out of control…much like the housing market.
It's 25% higher than last generation
Your money is also worth 25% less than 4 years ago
A Tacoma in 2020 ran you about 35
Had my 2023 Canyon AT4 since June, love it no issues so far. Such a massive improvement from last gen. And IMO better bang for buck than the Tacoma. Looks better and more HP as well as can’t go wrong
I love my 23 canyon elevation too
I would like to see a comparison of fleet trucks and also vans would be cool merry Christmas Tim happy new year stay safe keep up the great content
Why don't they give passenger power adjustable seats
I'm so glad you made this video and comparison. I personally love the look of the canyon at4. I am interested in getting off road capability for off roading, but I also want a good daily driver.
Hey Tim,
“Happy New Year”
Here’s my take on these two new trucks.
I’ve owned 3 new Toys a 87 SR5 X cab 4X4 I4 turbo, a 90 SR5 X cab 4X4 V6 and a 94 SR5 X cab 4X4 V6 all with 5sp manuals.
All were great trucks with few issues and had great resale value .
I was going to buy a 15 Colorado but, they were in short supply so, got a 15 Wrangler instead.
If you want specific features go with the GMC or if your willing to wait and see what Toyota can find for you then go that route and be aware that Toyota’s do have better resale value and tend to be more reliable!
You may pay more upfront and have fewer features with the Taco but, you can more than make up for it when you sell it even several years later.
As always stay safe and healthy.
Ron
For me I like the GMC better for a lot of reasons except one. They now only offer the small bed. When I bought my Colorado the first option I selected was the long bed and I went from there. After having it for a few years I really couldn't see me wanting a tiny bed so that kills the GMC for me. I tend to keep my trucks for a long time so the resale value is less of a issue. If the GMC offered the long bed option it would probably be my next truck.
I like the look of the GMC inside and outside far more than the Toyota, but with those option packages it does seem like you get more for the money with the Toyota. That trim also has a selectable locking differential and crawl control, and I really like that they have rear coil springs rather than the leaves on the GMC. I still like the GMC better, but it'll be interesting to see how they stack up in the real world, and I'm curious about the actual fuel efficiency of the Toyota. The headlights on the GMC is a non-issue for me, I would set it to auto on day one and probably never touch it again.
The GMC shifter and 4wd selector layout makes perfect sense! The shifter is much taller, and would be in the way of the 4wd selector if reversed.
Not to mention I don’t use either that often so I don’t notice it at all in my Canyon.
Great video! Very informative. Tim, I agree with your assessment. I prefer the look and value of the Canyon, but all three of my current vehicles are 2008s and 2009s. I buy’em and drive’em for 12 to 15 years. All three have 140,000 to 200,000 miles on them. I value reliability. Thus, I may lean Tacoma even if it means going with the SR5 with 4WD.
i realy like the looks of the Canyon AT4 on the vidoes i watched so yesterday i went to my local GMC dealer and test drove one and now i realy like it and i shifter did not bother me was fine it drove nice seats where comfy plenty of pep from the 4 cylinder the interior was realy nice once my lease on my Ram larimie is over march of 25 think thats what i want all i tow is my trailor with my atv
I'd buy the GMC, considering that I wouldn't consider either as a long-term purchase. Those days are gone.
Toyota is taking advantage of there past customers!'I remember in 1980 bought a 8o chevy ss El Camino over a Toyota SR5 toyota pick up and never regretted it. Out the door El Camino 5500. Toyota was 6000. The Toyota were rust buckets back then.
Buy a TRD PRO get the first one or be the first to get a Ranger Raptor or a Lightning.
I don’t watch TFL anymore because I don’t care about drag races.
Getter done Tim/ Jill you guys are killing it
I do get the sentiment that Toyota seems to have increased their pricing a bit more than others recently but kinda par for the course these days. Heck home prices around me have shot up like 35% since 2018/9, and combined with interest rates climbing a few points it means effectively a home is like double the payment it was just that few years ago.
I always wanted a Tacoma but the gmc canyon has caught my eye as of late. Still not buying anything because these APRs are ridiculous but the canyon seems like it’ll be my choice whenever I do decide to buy a new mid size pickup! Great video!
Just finance through a local credit union, they keep their rates a lot lower even if your credit isnt stellar.
A base model Tacoma SR Double Cab 4dr with 4x4 costs as much as a Chevy Colorado Trail Boss which is a TRD competitor. That is ridiculous.
Toyota will wake up 1 day, maybe
The Trail Boss is a mess of plastic, cheap headlights and a weak roof that dents going through a standard car wash.
@@donaldbiden9492 there is more plastic on the Toyota dash, but yes, the Canyon and Colorado roof is weak and dents from the dryers in a car wash. So both have their issues and failures.
And will probably run circles around the Trailboss. The Trailboss doesn't really have crap going for it other than AT tires and a stiffer suspension. Doesn't even come with cruise let alone adaptive cruise like the SR5
"trd competitor"?
trail boss is literally just a wt with a lift and cladding 😂
it's a bare bones truck with none of the added features that are standard on trds.
I don’t see anyone talking about the one pedal driving in the GMC.
That Premium Package that you selected for the Tacoma includes the front stabilizer disconnect, a much better JBL sound system a moonroof and a sliding rear window. The picture depicted in the Toyota build site for trucks has a pre-production interior and exterior. The real interior looks much better that the picture depicted.
Canyon is a nice truck for the country club types, plenty of room for clubs and towing for golf cart. Luxury appointments so that you will not long for your BMW while in it. Does crystal stem ware fit in the cupholder? Looks like caviar would fit in the glove box with a little ice. If you are going to get ripped off for extra cost on paint, choose the Red.
Did both trucks have rear HVAC vents? And I read that the GMC doesn’t have home link. Does the Toyota have home link garage door opening?
The GMC has rear vents, I don't think the tacoma does
Both trucks have rear vents. The Tacoma is a floor vent.
Homelink is available on Toyota as part of a package for some trims.
What about the tech issues Tim with the gmc
I don't hear much about those anymore. Just initial launch issues.
I plan on getting the GMC Canyon. I think it looks better. I think the interior looks better. More torque. My only issue what Tim said in the video as far as the headlights go. What happens if your screen tears up. My wife and I just bought a new 2024 Chevy trailblazer. We leave the headlight knob on auto. Haven't thought twice about it. So, the fact that it stays in auto doesn't bother me. Just the fact if the screen tears up.
I wouldn't sweat it. If that screen is dead, you won't be able to manually turn them on/off but the auto feature still works. Besides, if that screen is dead, you basically will only be able to drive to a dealer in that condition anyway.
Also, understand that the GMC doesn't offer the power rear window. To me, that is worse. I haven't touched my light switch in years on my Ram but I open that rear window every day in the summer when it is hot.
I was thinking the same thing when he mentioned that about the lights, if I had one of these trucks I would put it in auto and never touch it again. My 5th gen 4Runner doesn't have auto headlights (of course), but my 97 Grand Cherokee did, and I never touched the headlight switch in 10 years of owning that thing, lol.
The sound system is worth comparing. Bose is leagues beyond JBL in my opinion. And not to mention one of speakers in the Tacoma is essentially a Bluetooth speaker.
Canyon best looking truck inside and out.
Is it true that new Tacoma will be subscription remote start only ?
Yes for the software app. The key fob trick will work for now.
As soon as I saw Tim's review of the Canyon I liked it but now that the Taco and Ranger are out, it has lost some luster. Probably why they lowered their price from last year. I don't like how GMC went with the smaller driver screen on the AT4. And the availability of some nice options, even on the Sport, is really pulling me that way. I could get a Sport 6-ft bed very well equipped for not much more than a Canyon with the same options.
The hate for the air damn is getting annoying. How can people complain about the MPG not being as good as they thought it would be but then bitch about an air damn made to improve mpg.
I need a truck, normally I would never even think of paying this much. my problem is the used truck market, they want almost the same money for a truck with 90k miles. saying that, I love the canyon, but I need a little longer of a bed. Tacoma seems to be the only one with a 6 ft option.
toyota truck reliability is on the ropes. if it doesn't get back to its original reputation of high reliability, resale on this gen of tacos is going to be no different than any other truck
For consumers: if you plan to keep the truck long term and put 200k+ miles on it, Tacoma, if not, go for canyon
Price wise, I choose Canyon AT4 over Tacoma Tacoma TRD OR.
And I choose AT4X over TRD Pro.
And I have been a Toyota fanboy. But they’ve priced their way out of my heart.
I like the look of both the Tacoma and the GMC Canyon, nice features in both, but if I were in the market for a midsize truck, and considering that I tend to own vehicles for 10 to 15 years, the value and reliability is with the Tacoma.
**Over the past 30 years I have owned GM and Toyota products.
You get what you pay for !
I'd go so far as to say we get less than we pay for in 2023 but that's a bit off topic.
Something's going on with Toyota. It's almost like Mr. Toyoda died and his smart ass kids took over.
Wow, these are equipped very differently. First, why the Toyota Off-Road and not the Sport 4wd? The GMC 4wd system is no better than the basic Taco Sport 4wd system. But the biggest thing is when you were done with the GMC, it does not have moonroof, adaptive cruise, power rear window, digital rear mirror, upgraded audio, built in compressor, any bedliner, or the power opening/closing tailgate. You can't add all of those to the GMC but you could add the bedliner, audio, cruise and moonroof. The only option I can think of that the GMC AT4 has that the Toy does not is the availability of the HUD.
I would consider the Canyon if only if offered these two items: A six foot bed, and switch for the headlights.
Agree, with the six foot bed being the most important of those two items...
TFL just released their head to head drag race between the 24 Tacoma limited iForce and the Colorado HO. The Tacoma was a good bit faster than the 23 Tacoma, but the Colorado just walked away from the 24 Tacoma. Putting around town you likely won't notice much difference but when it comes to passing power and towing the Colorado is going to pull harder. It will be interesting to see how the iForce Max performs against the colorado HO or even the Ranger raptor since they will all be price competitive.
Gotta wait to have the topline engine from both to be fair.
II bought a 2023 Colorado TB with the plans of getting a 2024 Tacoma Off-Road. The price jump is a little more that I thought. The prices I see is what I was expecting for a Hybrid version. I am debating on telling my dealer to transfer my deposit to a Land Cruiser or GX550 or hold on to the TB. The Colorado has been great, but the TB interior is pretty spartan. I had ordered a Z71, but it never arrived and after seeing it next to the TB I didn't like the Z71 interior and the stance was just not right. I liked the Canyon AT4, but not enough to pay the difference on a 1 year ownership. The interior is that much nicer. If I stick with GM long-term it will be with an upgraded AT4.
In Canada the Tacoma is by far the better choice. Taco Sport Premium is cheaper than a Denali and has more features.
Who the F..... is talking about Denali? M.....
Deep breaths...
Surprised the comments aren’t just Toyota parrots. Reading anything online you’d think Toyotas outsell the domestics 100/1. Reliability on these trucks will be a toss up. This isn’t your old Toyota anymore, this taco is filled with options and gadgets and gizmos.
But the half ton and the mid size with the same 2.7T get the same mpg? At least that looks like it is the case for the Chevy Silverado and Canyon Trail Bosses.
Not really a shocker anymore. The days of a midsize getting better mpg than full-size hasn’t been the case in years.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Man, that's news to me. I've been driving the same 02 Tacoma for the last 15 years and I haven't been in the market for a new vehicle. Takes away some of the appeal of a smaller truck.
The Toyota buttons look like fisher price, I seen them in person, it’s a total no brainer to me GET THE GMC IT looks so much better, you can’t even compare the interior and touchscreen to GMC ,,,,
Not a fair comparison in my opinion. Some of the safety things you didn't select on the AT4 comes standard on the Tacoma. Plus, the I-Force Max that comes out next year will have higher HP and TQ numbers. Hopefully it will be as reliable as all the previous Toyota products. I can say that I have never owned a Toyota product and drive a Ram 1500 4wd. But I may be trading it in for the new Tacoma as I don't need the space anymore now that my kids are much older.
6 g’s more and havent even added the hybrid yet 🤯. You can buy a lot of gas for 6+ grand. Also a lot of other stuff😄.
people just seemingly don't mind losing 40hp and 110+ lbft of torque. "These engines are comparable"... In what way? That they move a vehicle and are turbocharged? Because that's where the comparison should end. Toyota has finally reached the point where their reliability and resale won't overcome the cost difference
The problem is GM has gone downhill. I am a huge GM fan, but over the last 10 years, quality is not there anymore. I would go toyota
Tacoma interior doesn't seem as nice, personally, but much more in line with the Tundra for sure. Own a '21 TRD Off Road now but not sure those Tacoma prices would win me back and the GMC interior seems a much better place to spend time. Have to see how their individual reliability ranks over time. With so many new mid-size remodels sharing the angled look they are very similar (to me) and all the crew-short beds look as if they could come off the same line. Not necessarily a bad thing cuz if looks are comparable then price may be the deciding factor throughout the segment. Competition is always good for buyers, especially in recent years.
The price difference is significant BUT I would probably still go with the Tacoma because of Toyota's reliability and resale value. I stopped buying american trucks in 1995 after years of owning F-Series trucks. In the years since I have owned a T100 and two Tundra's, all three were excellent trucks with exceptional reliability and huge trade-in / resale value when I sold them. If you keep your vehicle for a long time the extra initial cost is well worth it.
4:51 I find it funny that an 05 malibu and 06 Trailblazer had standard auto headlights and now that they made it more complicated by putting it in the screen. The 2024 GM midsized trucks don't come standard with auto headlights.
Yeah lol. Thats the stupidest thing ever! That made my decision not to get the gm. Whats wrong with the simple switch to turn the lights on. I'm not gonna scroll through an infotainment screen just to turn on the lights. Stupid to me
The headlight menu is an Always present option on the top of the screen. There is no scrolling. It doesn't take any longer than turning a stalk knob. 98% of the time you use Auto mode anyway, this is a bad argument.
@treefity350 still very stupid and I never auto. Don't like it
@@treefity350
It's still an asinine concept. Why go through the trouble to reinvent the wheel in a mainstream product? There is no reason too. This truck is slightly larger than the last gen and it had a little dial to control the headlights. Why remove the dial? Now there is only a button there that replaced two dials and some buttons. This concept is more asinine than putting the HVAC controls into the infotainment screen. At least you are saving legitimate space when you do that. Now it's just more plastic taking up residence. At least put more than a button there to break up the cheapness.
@@99-Zulu nah, I live with this truck and it is the definition of a non issue.
Lol i just bought a 2023 GMC Sierra Elevation 4x4 for 45k including tax and tags, in November. All mid-sized trucks from all manufacturers are overpriced.
Sierra AT4 is close to 60k.
We got a 2023 Colorado ZR2 and I think MSRP was 52k which is a steal compared to the Tacoma TRD Off road especially with the 10k option packages which put it around 55k and the ZR2 gives you way more off road capability then the TRD Off Road and just going off of that if the TRD Pro and TrailHunter are likely going to be 60k+ which prices them out of all of the mid size trucks competitors
As someone who just upgraded to the ZR2, the value to price comparison of it compared to the AT4 and the 2024 Tacoma is wild. Jumped the gun on the Trail Boss and felt it lacking in the day-to-day department which GM needs to work on. The ZR2 is amazing by comparison and gives you almost everything the AT4 has and more for like $2k more and I feel that isn't acknowledged enough. Helps I get a GM discount but still
@@DebuggE yeah we looked at a trail boss but the plastic work truck front and interior looks bad and very cheap, but the ZR2 has better looks, interior, and capability. But it is a price jump from the trail boss and when we were looking also the AT4 Canyon was basically the same price with the options we wanted. I think Chevy should offer the Z71 with some sort of off road package to bridge the gap between Trail Boss and ZR2
@@crushbaseball4270the Z71 is below the Trail Boss, so that wouldn't make any sense.
@@mjareacts2731 The Z71 is above the Trail Boss in the line up for the Colorado, not sure where you saw that that the Trail boss was above the Z71
Tim with respect the power delivery is not the same! 317n ft lb of torque vs 430! 310 ho vs 278hp! what the hell are you looking at. I have driven both and the chevy is stronger, hands down. I have owned totota and many lexus, I love them, but frankly i am disappointed in Toyota for giving us so little by way of improvements, just like the Tundra. So after 15 years this is what they think of the customer....talk about taking the consumer for granted. Certainly many of us expected mush more. Ordered a ZR2 yesterday!! very happy Toyota made it an easier decision.
The problem with the canyon is maintenance. Should you ever have the need to change the timing chain, you have to remove : Oil pan, drive shaft, starter, alternator, fan, fan shroud and a host of other things. Its almost as if they dont want you working on your own truck.
I am in the market so going to turn my F150 lease in August. I’m gonna go midsize most likely GMC Canyon ATX4. Don’t like the raptor Ranger don’t like the way it looks the exterior design of the Ranger is not rugged or tough looking at all, it looks like a chick truck. The Toyota Tacoma TuRD off-road I like it a lot but your bang for the buck especially on the interior GMC’s got the lead. Concerned with Government Motors Quality though. Can’t beat Toyota Reliability.
One difference is that the Tacoma has more standard safety features, whereas the Canyon requires you to select more packages to get the same features.
You are correct, but even with all those packages added the Canyon is still cheaper. Toyota overpriced the Tacoma by 5-10K. Apparently trying to push more people into a Tundra? 🤷♂️ I really don’t understand Toyota’s mind set.
@@jayray274 Not really because the base Taco has built in. You must add them to the GMC. So he could have dropped the premium package on both and the Taco would be cheaper by $2k. Would have been a closer comparison anyway.
I dont want a truck with all these saftey features it racks up the price & is annoying to drive with, pedistrian crossing, emergency braking, lane keep or centering ....no thanks
@@B86432 Sadly, that is the future. As more manufacturers get sued over stupid crap, what else can they do? Luckily, we still have the ability to disable them, but for how long.
The inside of the GM trucks looks better imo. The dash is actually blended in unlike the Tacos huge ipad sticking out. Looks awfullll
Agreed, love the GM interior. Except the shortened driver's screen. They cheaped out on that like it was a Chevy WT
@@Dusdaddy oh yeah, I heard the 24s they’ll all have the full so that’ll be nice. I have the Denali so I have always had the full screen. It’s so nice
@@ethenjordan2010 That's good news!
The Canyon will leave that Tacoma in the dust, speed isn't that big of an issue in pickups but why do people keep saying it's similar. The Canyon has significantly more HP and torque. It smoked the Tacoma in TFL's test. Also, the point about the Tacoma making more torque earlier is a little silly until we see how much torque is available at a similar RPM in the Canyon...it has 100+ more to begin with. I bet it's close if not more.
Also, did that Tacoma have the towing package/tech you added to the canyon?
Tacoma hybrid coming in three months and will destroys the GMs in speed boy.
Toyota hides it's trailer brake controller inside one of the premium pkgs. Kinda silly. And the Tacoma hybrid is gonna cost even more (I'm guessing 3k) and have lower payload and towing than the regular gas taco. Which is already lower than the canyon
Actually, the brake controller comes in the much cheaper "Upgrade Package" for the Toyota. And he never added the tech package to the GMC so it doesn't have any of the tech that the Toyota gets like adaptive cruise, moonroof, powered rear window, etc. GMC doesn't even offer the powred rear window.
@@Dusdaddy much cheaper... IE 4600 on the trd off-road. Cheaper... Right, I believe you now
@@chriso2759 Considering the Toyota starts $2000 cheaper than the GMC, yep it does end up cheaper because you have to add so much to the GMC to match it.
How can you say people won't notice a difference in power between the Canyon and Tacoma? It's a massive difference. 32Hp and 113 ft. lb. torque.
Hope the Tacoma doesn’t have as many recalls and the tundra!!!
Long live the new GM king!!!!!
By buddy bought an At4 in Canada in the summer of 2023 Nd it was a $60 thousand dollar truck… a midsize at that. Brutal cost.🤦🏻
I was in the market for a mid size truck and I was thinking Ranger, GMC or Tacoma, I liked the GMC a lot but waited till the Toyota configurator came out and the decision was easy to go with the GMC because of price and also that already outdated interior of the Tacoma. I gave up on Ford as I didn't want to wait another 2 years for all their mess with the Bronco, Maverick and now Ranger.
Seems to me that Toyota is just highering their prices because they know their resell value is high.
The Tacoma gets you the moonroof and 360 monitors too, so not really apples to apples. Doesn’t matter because I’ll never own another top 3 truck. American made used to mean something, it means something different now.
Since you have driven both , what are your thoughts on ride quality and overall feel. which one did you prefer?
Like I said, I prefer the GMC for overall feel. Ride quality is about the same.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Following up on that , if it was your investment and you planned to keep the truck for the next 7-10 years. Would you sacrifice cost and feel for long lasting Toyota Tacoma brand with greater resale value? Or would you still choose GMC?
@@dillonsutherland7284 you know I'm not sold on the resale value argument. I've had two Tundra trucks now and the first one I kept for a few years. I got some cash back when I traded that in mainly because I hadn't driven it that much in the last year.
The other was my 2022 Tundra. I had to cough up money to buy my way out of the loan to get rid of it. Business wise, I had to sell and buy a new truck.
Maybe others have had better luck than I have, but I haven't experienced amazing resale. It might be better than GMC, but I don't see it as being that much more amazing.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Fair enough. Thanks for your input! I drive a 21 F150 however I just don’t trust it , has some issues so I’m moving back to a toyota. Can’t decide Tundra or Tacoma. Currently have a 2024 TRD off road on order expected in February. However a little worried about size and so forth. I have drove the Tundra and drives good but I plain and simple don’t “ love it or the design of it”. I think it’s an ugly truck on the exterior. For some reason I think Tacoma looks so much better. So I’m leaning towards it , I don’t haul or pull anything I just like to have a truck. I have 4 kids but we have a Sienna for family travel and kids sporting events. 80% of the time it’s just me in the truck so I feel it would be fine. Always enjoy seeing your prospective on things and helping answer any questions I have. Keep up the good work!
I wonder if the people on here banging on the 4 cylinder turbo engine in the canyon. Realize this engine has been used in the chevy silverado since 2019. I haven't heard anything bad about it, it's a good engine.
I really want an AT4X because I think it looks better than the ZR2, plus I want the HUD, but the I hate the interior color so much that I'd rather have the ZR2. I'd much prefer the interior on the Denali or regular AT4.
That price difference is more than you think. GMC has been offering discounts and better interest rates. Good luck getting that from Toyota.
That’s because the GM products drop their value 20% in the first year unlike a Toyota. The canyon doesn’t exactly have a long track record of reliability either. They were kind of junky trucks when that first came out and replaced the S-10 and Sonoma.
Tim, you picked the priciest Toyota package available. That $10k premium package is bonkers, but the exception. Had you went cloth interior, same price. Compared SR5 to Elevation same price. Limited to Denali, GMC costs more. Very evenly priced overall (except with that one package you selected) and I think the choice comes down to buyer preference.
I would never own a new vehicle again without adaptive cruise! It's funny they hold this hostage as an "option". Also, I looks for interiors without leather. We kill way too many animals for vehicles.. I like vegan leathers. The electronics aren't going to last 20 years anyway, don't need all this leather
Vegan Leather. LOL We finally got a real contender for the oxymoron to dethrone Military Intelligence. 😃
The canyon will spank the new Tacoma. Just watch TFL. Today they had the rigs. Maybe the hybrid will be cool.
Iff your leasing i guess its the canyon,i still dont get iff Toyotas hold there value so well why are leases so bad,maybe a video explaining this
It’s the residuals and money factors set by the bank…. End of lease on my 2019 Tacoma I was sitting on almost 8k of equity - buy out was 28k, trade value 35.7k, no idea about retail since I didn’t plan to sell it or let it go back, but still.
Now - this was through Toyota Financial Services. At the same time I originally leased the 2019, the dealer I bought from was also offering leases through Ally. The payment would’ve been over $200 less a month, BUT between money factor and residual, I would’ve paid 38k to buy it at lease end, making it a negative equity situation….
Both Absurd $$$$
The Canyon looks soooo good. Have been preparing to buy either the Canyon or 2024 Tacoma. Joing FB groups with 2023 Cayons and Colorados has helped me make my decision. Nothing but complaints about the truck on those forums. I'm on my 3rd brand new Tacoma and while I like the look of the GMC better, I just don't want to be hassled by maintenance issues. I'll likely be buying a 24 or 25 Taco.
That the issue. ZR2 for example is a bargain but poor quality.
Canyon has a lot stronger engine (430 lb/ft) vs the non hybrid, you can't just gloss that away. It might not be noticeable in the city but it definitely will be noticeable when towing.
True, but the hybrid may exceed that as well.
@@Dusdaddy We're comparing "like vs like", the hybrid isn't even available and it will drive up the cost difference even more. Also remember that when that hybrid runs out of battery while towing (say, up the eisenhower tunnel) you're left with a very weak engine again.
Toyota doesn't care about towing. If you want to tow the Tacoma really isn't a good option. The Toyota has a car engine with some enhancements. The GM has a ground up truck engine. It will be superior in towing 4000lbs+.
@@Steven-xj2rf Curious why you say that? Both the GM and Toyota engines have car versions but both are very different and built for trucks. Why is the GM "more truck" than the Toy?
@@Dusdaddy The L3B was built ground up for as workhorse base engine in fullsize trucks and possible replacement for 5.3L V8. If you watch the engineers videos the L3B was built like a diesel engine. It feels like a tractor motor compared to other gas powered engines. It was put in the Caddy CT4 with a tune for premium gas. It is not a car motor in it doesn't like to spin past 5500RPM. The 2.4T was launched cars and SUVs to replace the NA 3.5L V6. It is not a workhorse. The engine seems to be the limiting factor in towing ability as the Land Cruiser and GX550 have the same basic chassis . The GX550 has a 8000lb towing capacity vs 6000lbs. I guess this is mostly because the 2.4T is not built to take sustained demands of towing heavyish loads
Watched a video of a Colorado using hill descent, as the truck went careening out of control down the hill to the terror of the driver, I decided Tacoma for me.
I watched an oil change video on the new Colorado/Canyon. It has a plastic oil pan and plastic drain plug. Junk
Do you trust a VIN with the first character as a "1" or the first character as a "3"? Or does it matter?
Why does toyota even allow people to "build their own", when that option stops at the dealers front door? Toyota's build page is stupid anyway and not user friendly. How many "TRD off road Premium Package with options" boxes are there to choose from? They are all named the same, so you have to open each one to see what is included. Come on Toyota, you can do better.... or maybe you can't because you don't know and are not aware of your issues with your build page. Again, Toyota should just take down the build page, since it is not reality anyway, as going to a dealer and saying I want "this" exactly, just is not going to happen.
Having five or six “TRD off road Premium Package with options” is my favorite, too. 😃 It’s so totally $tupid and it also shows that the “Build” page for Toyota is a complete scam and afterthought. Compare it with a Ford or GM or RAM build page. Every package and option has its unique name and clearly organized. Toyota didn’t even bother to number the packages to distinguish them. Something as simple as Premium Package 1, Premium Package 2, etc. Honestly, it’s a joke. And the Tundra page is the same and that truck is in it’s 3rd model year and the configurator is still not fixed. 😃
@@is6566 Exactly. Toyota is clueless in some aspects. Their product is good, but the process of getting one, a 3rd grader could do better.
Great comparison, but price wise GMC and Toyota are dead even. 100% depends on the trim levels and option selected. Had you selected CLOTH seats these are the same
price. The way Toyota packages leather in that spendy premium package is poor. The GMC Denali is actually more than the Toyota Limited and the SR5 and elevation are also the same cost. Just pointing that out.
Exactly. When you match them feature by feature the Taco is either the same or a little cheaper. Canyon looks nice but until they solve their QA issues Tacoma is still king
the canyon is the best choice for those fed up with drinking the tacoma kool aid. c'mon guys....the least motor in the tacoma is a four banger, and the best is also a four banger.....get real here!!
How is the GMC a value starting at 43k? Insanity. That’s higher than Tacoma.
What about the Ford Ranger
What about it? I've done several videos on it.
And that’s why I bought a Nissan Frontier 😂
Gmc has been the premium truck always
what drugs are you on?
No it hasn't.
That canyon looks super cheesy on the outside but if that doesn’t matter then 🤷♀️
Buy the Tacoma for your channel. You'll get more interest in the new Tacoma which will result in more views.
The interior on the Tacoma just sucks.
I would agree with this.
For his sake the Tacoma is better for getting attention for his channel. Regardless of the price difference the Tacoma makes more business sense.
For a personal purchase the GMC will be a bigger bang for the buck.
I want to agree but if Tim shows the same value for less then he might get traction.
@@mbuckner4994he only keeps these vehicles for a year. If he was going to keep it for the next 5 then the GMC would be better, but since this is the Tacoma's first year he's better off getting it and making videos and comparing it to any loaners he may get from manufacturers.
No one cares about the old Tacoma new gmc is where all the hype is
Give me a Toyota any day of the week. I know it’ll still be going strong 200k miles later.
At least they used to until they put in the turbo unit.
Good point, time will tell.@@marklihsu
My '14 Taco off road had 2 warranty repairs first 36K. My Ranger is at 40K miles with zero issues. And I live in Wyoming and drive at elevation and the engine doesn't turn into a wheezing POS in the mountains like my tac did. Not to mention unreal low end torque. Never ever going back to NA engine. @@marklihsu
Canyon is Macho pickup. Tacoma, meeeehhhh
Around 50k isnt a bargin for anything
Toyota SHOULD always be lower in price, since they are not union. But Japan knows people will pay for reliability.
There made in Mexico now bud
@bobbysmith9411 you just won every argument lol
Pretty sure the canyon at4 and elevation have the very small digital gauge cluster. It’s one of the weird gripes that people have with it as the entire screen works when turning it on but GM limits it to 1 small section instead 3 sections unless you get the Denali or AT4x. Which is bad for a “luxury” truck as it is a GMC
They changed that in the 2024 model. They all have the large instrument cluster now
@@ArconicWelding really? Well I’ll be damned, I know it’s no big deal but that was something that turned me away from the at4, might have to take another look! Thanks!
@@marcocid7418 It didn't steer me away but I certainly would like a 24 now lol! I love the truck so much I'll probably custom order a 25 Canyon when they time comes, same AT4 model just in red and a few different options and keep that one long term. Seems like the perfect suit for my needs and like the ergonomics and feel of the truck more than any others in this price range
Tough decision. Resale value is a big.big deal! I believe I would go with the more expensive Tacoma.
the Canyon might be cheaper but you get what you pay for. Reliability. Tacoma wins that all day, probably even with the new generation.
If you're only keeping the canyon for around 3 years, get canyon. But in a long-term ownership of a truck, I mean maybe longer than 10 years. Go tacoma. I'm still driving my 2004 tacoma with 375k miles on it.
Your Tacoma doesn't have an unproven turbo engine though
And Toyota longevity partly due to never changing a thing for 10 years at a time, so they better get it right keeping everything the same for years on end. They will have there early problems as the full size Toyota does, and then that will be your truck for the new 20 years. 2024 will be the same as a 2034 model😮
@@bryane2857 yep, it has it's + and -
@@Boobtube. I mean look at the tundra. It was literally the same truck for over a decade and a half. I am fan of most mechanical things from Japan, innovation, precision detail ext ... But Toyota trucks expand the boundary once every decade
@@bryane2857 agreed.