Big respect to everyone here and all your comments. They're all well noted. Link for the book below guys, would love yous to read it and let me know what you think. To buy Stephen's new book - www.amazon.co.uk/Extraordinary-Stephen-Gillen-Search-Living-ebook/dp/B0CY9W268Y/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YL53UCOLDI06&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KDpU6tre8-ZNG69c6AuKiVk_Lpbr3ochWXxm4JODs_g6Db954eCSNnNph3im6HhTjpn2iKWdztdtbgY1GrOwFcfdxVhqO9sHtBXMvDC6uAtk3KfNj_UtPljcYqg-H_X5O0gmf_k9i1bpxrJ9jMznpQ.DQSUCQNVFBRkQTXqMY9L4h-pzuv4p2IxcuOCiB9M-V0&dib_tag=se&keywords=stephen+gillen&qid=1712593811&sprefix=stephen+gillen+%2Caps%2C63&sr=8-1
@@snoox27 I agree it's criminal pardon the pun, and ppl would probably still turnaround and say oh that murderer, and he's not killed anyone, more luck than judgement like. Ha ha 👀😁, there's a few wronguns who were close I think. GWAN CHARLIE, I hope he gets a few years in the countryside, I think he at least deserves that after the inhumane way he's been treated. 💙👀.
Thanks very much for the insight, I'm sorry I ain't heard of you before and I have read countless books, but you sound very well educated, pls could I ask and pls don't get offended, but what was your crime and I thought Charlie hasn't been able to be padded up with anyone for yrs, especially after all the hostage taking, and living in a cell within a cell for yrs, Thank you Stephen. 👍👀🥊.
That's when it is clearly down to who they play, serious criminal? You aren't winning too many awards, suffragette? World leader? They will throw awards your way... It should be about raw acting 👏
When he was listening to Hardy recounting Bronson’s story about cutting a piece of himself off to move on, you can see the recognition and respect for Hardy’s acting skills on his face. He was hearing Bronson’s voice through Hardy.
Tom Hardy is the most dynamic and serious artist in film over his career. A real shapeshifter that abandons self to become the character. Great interview- Thanks Mates!
@@scott4868Wouldn't say most dynamic but most dynamic madman. I'd say Robert Pattenson has been more all over the place after everyone tried to fill him in as only a vampire after twilight films
I love how much empathy this bloke has for Charlie's conditions being so futile and a pressure keg, on top of whatever issues which landed you there, can't imagine anyone would cope everyday of eternal hell and not go crazy.
"you keep kicking a dog, don't be surprised one day if it bites you" powerful line Stephen. I was in the penal system only for a sort time, 16 months, in a northern Irish prison, but in the block I've heard some squeals from people getting bones broke and arm ligaments torn from the guards themselves. It's nothing compared to what Charles has done at all but I've seen enough for a lifetime in places like that, not oldschool like you went through but definitely some pretty bad stuff from drugs and suicide. All I have to say is I hope Charles gets to see a bit of light before his day is up and I appreciate your lack of ego and genuine care for the man in this interview, absolutely stellar, Love from N.I
Mate I started off in the early 60’s in kids homes and remand centre for boys , from there to Borstal & YP’s and then later on many notorious prisons including Grendon, strange ways scrubs Wandsworth ,peter head ,many others one day I I’ll write the book I have always wanted to write!!
I think you're spot on about the good points and the bad points of the film. I hope Charlie gets released so he can have a chance, just a chance, of living a bit of life. He never killed no one, the prison service went to work on him and never let up.
The difference with Mr Gillen is that I haven't come across a single instance in any of his vids or interviews where he could be accused of boasting about or even coming as remotely proud of his criminal past. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he is proud of how he handled certain situations and I'm sure he has many happy memories from those times as well but he is totally building his rep around his repentance and doesn't encourage any of the usual hero worship or fear these guys seem to crave. Big thumbs up for Stephen Gillen
Any person that spends that amount of time in prison will find good times. That's not their fault, they are forced to continue life in a situation they can't escape. To expect any person to just dwell in the worst for all their time in, is not only cruel, but inhumane.
Well, you see, unlike many, he don't need too, he knows where he was in the game as do others who are of a same ilk and he knows how he done his bird. Ego tends to leave when you've been thru and done it all, along with the mind and values changing there's no need . It would be a let down to himself and loved ones imo
As a whole Bronson really told the story of how Charlie was molded into a unremorseful convict. The penal system really did a number on him, and was rightfully every bit as guilty if not more than Charlie ever was. I also like the way they went into depth about Charlie (formally known as Michael Peterson) having to deal with social and societal dilemmas as well. It really incorporated his inner struggles not only as a convict but as a man as well. All and all Mr. Gillen did an excellent job critiquing the film behind Charlie Bronson's earlie life.
He was a dangerous psychopath who didn't care who got hurt, he showed he was never going to reform his behaviour and now he's so old and mad if he was let out he might just grab a shotgun and start shooting people for the fun of it. Let him rot, he's scum.
Stephen surprised the hell out of me. I judged a book by its cover (past history) and made an ass of my self. Stephen is incredibly articulate and thoughtful. I love that I found his channel and will definitely enjoy his content and films.
There was no remote coz Charlie always ate it....only way they turned it over was a full on volly too the side off the the telly..3,4 vollys...and if a channel skipped one too many Steve vollied the other side the telly....was a Russian telly I heard.... apparently still works now...
Thank you for sharing this. I live in Alaska and am watching this on a boat carrying cargo. It's amazing how far technology has come. I'm glad to hear Hardy captured some of his essence; makes it all the better. Glad you're doing so well in your life and look forward to watching more videos on your channel as a new subscriber. All the best.
Finally!!! A real one who is articulate, credible, and not big manning it or glorifying the life. Subscribed. What a refreshing change this guy is to the usual bell ends we normally get for this kind of thing.
Brilliant review! I love how you don’t just give your perspective of events or look at the factuality of things, but you critique the storytelling how the art of the cinema. Bravo!
I’ve got PTSD and instead of treating me I was given drugs that changed my physiology, slowed me down and I call them a chemical straight jacket. I dread to think what they dosed Mr Bronson with against his will and how that would have affected him even more. What the system has done to him is unforgivable.
Agreed real men as touted their masculinity may be are punished and held down to save and protect this unjust system we have. I the past the emphasizes was on physical violence against inmates today you get chemically castrated. It's a hideous evil. The newest trick is to make ppl especially woman addicted to social media Fry their brain with superstimuli like 7 figures, 7 inches and at least 6'3 tall - in that way upper-class pr*cks bind 80% of all woman no matter the class. Taking away massively options for young low class men to develop their masculinity and strive for smth. It's all this social ingeneering crap of the Transhumanists. This upper-class families marry since centuries inside their group when famine, war and poverty f up the epigenetic of the ordinary working or farming men, this guy got always optimal nurturing. So they grow 3 to 4 inches taller as the other classes their faces more fair cause of good diet and they don't carry around psychology of scarcity. On the other side they don't develop the compassionate fighting heart cause they hadn't the necessity to do. But today's fried young woman's brain just perceive blink and shine of Instagram. And if you don't have it you don't make it. The gap is bigger as ever and therefore any low class young men look for answers to this unbearable situation. Crime was always one of the answers of the exploited and under privileged to get his needs met.
This is a beautifully articulated and humane analysis and explanation. It does a lot for a normy like me to be educated and less judgemental about inmates in general. Thank you sir.
One of the best British accents ever. What a cool dude. BTW, I think Tom Hardy is one of the best actors we have today, he did his job very well, too bad the writers were more intrested in shocking the public than telling a true story.
bronson gave tom profound advice that is really accurate and true. Pain can flood over you..rejection can drive u mad. 'cutting off' is really how it felt when i was finally able to move on.
I love this accent, I struggle to hear that at all in London these days. And no I don’t mean foreign people at all, nothing racist about that comment, I mean the accent isn’t the same anymore among Londoners anymore.
Your right it was unique because it came from London with no outside influences unlike today's accent you hear there. That accent is still quite strong in Essex though.
Let's not beat around the bush here get to the point y are people's scared to tell the truth just come visit London urself use Ur own eyes and ears there's not many of us EastEnders left London literally has had the flood gates opened on it nd it is going under
@@richwilliams4750 Let them beat around the bush. They will be spat out and told, "I never knew you". As long as they weren't that dreaded R word that was created by the synagogue of satan, then it's ok
I really respect you for what you said about them demonizing him. "The press has demonized him and so has the prison service but he's a human being just like anyone else". I think that's really important for people to understand that he's a prisoner, a violent one, but he's a human being who went through a lot and never got the help he needed. Some people can rise above and others it consumes without proper help and unfortunately he's one that was consumed and the prison system has made him even worse. Rather than judge him, we should figure out how to help people so that they don't end up in the same position as him. Respect to you Stephen.
@@darrenhenderson6921 Humans take hostages. Demons are evil creatures that were never human and seem to not actually exist... Demonizing means we are not actually doing any analysis, no looking into how things could have been different, what improvements could be made so it does not keep happening to more humans... It is just smart to not demonize people since that closes you off from a realistic assessment...
You did such a wonderful job telling the tale. It's something to hear it through the words of someone who knows him so well. Very good video sir, sheers!
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Awwww bless Charlie, he's a lovely bloke with a massive Hart, it's discusting that THAY havent let the fella out, he's not a danger to anyone, THAY should let Charlie out after nearly 50 years locked away the fella has done way more time than he should have, FREE THE MAN, HE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS TREATMENT AT ALL, ITS ABUSE BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!! AND ITS DISCUSTING WHAT THERE DOING KEEPING HIM LOCKED AWAY FROM SOCIATY, LET HIM OUT FREE CHARLIE BRONSON HE DOES NOT DESERVE THIS TREARMENR, PLEASE SEND MY LOVE AND BEST WISHES TO TO CHARLIE, AND TELL HIM WE ARE ALL BEHIND HIM, BIG HUGS TO CHARLIE, FROM DANIELLE HELLAM, FROM WAKEFIELD WEST YORKSHIRE, MUCH LOVE. CHARLIE SHOULD BE FREE....... FREE CHARLIE BRONSON,
Bronsons advice to tom about cutting things of even if it hurts is something everyone should tale a deep look into themself and follow that advice . Brilliant advice and way of telling it
Hello Stephen Gillen now i live in New Zealand now I have read that Charlie Bronson aka Salvadore Bronson was pen pals with chopper read have you considered looking at Eric Bana as Mark Chopper read??? and the antics in h block where chopper was placed and the incident of him cutting his ears off???
would really love to see a series made of charlies upbringing and what he went through as a young adult to be the way he was to earn that 10/10 charlie bronson score
I agree it need a more fleshing out of Bronson's story, but Tom did an excellent job in his portrayal of the Charley. The quirks, the mannerisms, the anger and tension that would just emulate trough the screen. This is really apparent in one scene. I won't spoil it, but, man when they say "less is more", Hardy nails it in this scene. The tension and the anger is just simmering under the surface, but he puts on a brave face and does what Charley does, something impulsive. More backstory would have been better, but the psychedelic style really brought me back to the 70's and I was only 6 in '74, so I think that helps me related to the time, because memories like that are in a dream state. Kind of what Charley was walking through.
My brother in-law, sadly passed now, spent a while as Charlie's neighbour when they were both guests at an establishment owned by the Queen. He had some funny stories to tell, spoke well of Charlie said he was really funny and is mentioned in Charlie's book
I think people by default have the notion that movies need to portray someone as accurately as possible, and that is what the movie is for. Especially if they knew the person. I heard that with every movie that people that knew the person would say, they didn't entirely get that person right. Jim Morrison. Andy Kaufman, and many others. This guy even said, because they didn't, they let the audience down. But the audience came to see an exciting movie. Documentaries are made to try and give people an idea of who someone was. Movies are to tell a story, in an interesting way, not just try to do an exact cover of who someone was.
Stephen reminds me of the late great Tommy Cooper! (The way he looks anyways!) This is the first time I've come across him and I really like how honest, grounded and authentic he is. A proper oldskool decent geezer!
All Charlie needed was some love, affection and a friend to be there for him or a family that really tried to be a family for him. Society let him down and left him to go mad.
Ha you try to love a self centered criminal I’m good here I bet if you met him before he went to prison he’s the type to cut your face you obviously never spent time with true criminals like people who don’t care and don’t want to you ever spent time in a room with someone who gives you the vibe you get when you’re walking alone in the dark and you’re neck hair goes up thank god my cousin knew him cause he you can tell and their always kind and chill but wierd in like you can feel you don’t wanna be alone with him like if you ever got the feelings not to go down that way I get gut feelings about people most times they are right you can’t save everyone some enjoy what they do but if they put it out front less victims comes like if they see I recognize my faults they’ll assume I’ll try to change but I am lazy and disheartened
I find it admirable that you have such attention to detail in reviewing this film. i think you really care about Charlie and i think it makes you a very good friend and a good person
His art is really impressive, at first i thought it kind of meh but the more he does the more i think he is a secret genius. There is so much going on in every painting he does it's like a feast for the eyes.
Just like Tom playing both Kray twins, he has to interpret what is written in the script and will not necessarily represent every aspect of the individual he is playing. It is a film. Eric Bana portrayed Mark Chopper Reid perfectly because he actually spent time with Chopper before playing the role and learnt specific traits about his personality.
Thank you for this. I had been on the fence about watching this movie, because I was unsure how well this story was going to be told. I know I could trust Tom Hardy to portray someone as accurately as possible. I don’t trust the rest of the business. Looking forward to watching this movie, now. Thanks, Steve. Cheers! ❤
I need to watch Bronson again. It's been since about 2010 that I've seen it and I'm grateful it's on Tubi still. As someone that was in and out of treatment centers for 6 years, I can somewhat relate to Charlie 🙏
For me the movie was a gateway. Without it I would know nothing of this fascinating man. After seeing it I went down a rabbit hole on him and even bought Solitary Fitness. Hopefully they let him breathe some free air before he dies.
One of the greatest crimes of this country is leaving a man like Bronson to rot in prison with no legitimate reason. It’s incredibly sad what has happened to him and it’ll be a stain on this country for years to come.
No legitimate reason? So beating people up left right & centre, taking hostages, all the nutty stuff he's done isn't legitimate reason for punishment?? Sorry but it's plenty legit. It's still a shame though, he's never going to be allowed to progress, how can he rehabilitate sat in a cell talking to himself? He can't can he, & it's a waste, I say send him back on the wing at an A cat for a few months, then give him c cat, test him for 6 months, then Tey a year at d cat, then you can give him a chance of a life. If not, give him a gun & a bullet, let his misery end.
Bronson should be released IMMEDIATELY and become your next door neighbour. One day he'll accuse you of watching him from your window, or parking your car too close to his house or not using the rubbish and recycling bins properly. What happens next? And THAT (very sadly) is why Bronson needs to remain inside.
@@raypurchase801 that's what people don't want to hear, he's a violent man and got more time for being really violent, should they just laugh that off? people say whatever but like you say if he moved in across the street they would be singing a different tune. it is what it is
Everyone will be judged at the end for everything and those in authority meaning the judicial/court system, prison guards, warden, etc will be judged as well.
You too, like Charlie, it's clear you're a very intelligent, wise man. I watch your videos to learn about fellas. I've never been lucky enough to meet. Fellas, I'm extremely fond of but that I'll never meet. Guys like Charlie. Just an awesome video, thanks for this. Was Charlie able to ever find any peace? Being kept in such an awful place like that.
You said something early in this video that struck home. "But he's a human being like anyone else" and how people react to their surroundings and how people treat them... I'm recently retired from working maximum locked psych units. The best advice I had in my early career in 1980 when I started was "treat them like a human being like anyone else". This served me well in my 37 years with violent psych patients. The mutual respect goes a long long way to having a working relationship in any institution...
There's obviously a line in terms of they are in prison, so perhaps no weapons or tools for escape. But yeah, I used to know some pretty screwed up people, it was a genuine shock when I started to work security and the folks I was securing the building against weren't half as bad. Having nearly been murdered on multiple occasions, I still believe that in general it's best to show people at least basic human respect, even if you refuse to have anything to do with them in private. I've certainly found trust and respect, but verify to be the right call in nearly all cases.
Watched ya channel from time to time, and from ya past to the present I say you are a absolute inspiration and I congratulate you sir !!! Long life and happiness is my wish for you 🙏
I had to watch the film a few times to fully understand what was taking place around and to him. I'm glad he had people around him who treated him with respect. Hard time make hard people and someday we will need and want people like Charley around to get us through the hard days ahead
Absolutely loved this video breakdown Stephen. New to your chanel but love your straight up decent and honest assessment of the film and Charlie himself. RESPECT. Glad they chose Tom Hardy for the film. Another genuine geezer and you can see Charlie respected him.
I enjoyed listening to this intelligent, wise man. I feel nothing but sorry for Charlie and shame for the system that has failed him. I hope he gets out soon.
Hi Stephen,just wanna say this was fantastic mate,its about 3 rd time ive watched it snd it was great to hear your perspective on the prison and Charlie..ive been inside 5 times but the most was 11 month Armley in Leeds.. however..i still saw some horrible horrible trouble and bullying,which i hated...thanks for this Stephen...top bloke
You just confirmed everything I suspected about Charlie, my heart has gone out to him over the years bless him, I so hope he gets out soon and enjoys whatever he's got left..👍❤
I'd love you to do one on Robert Mawdesley the "scouse cannibal" 😳 🙄 talk about set up..😳 I grew up with a lad who's dad was a paedophile, he was a middle child of 9, when the father worked his way down the line to him, aged 10, he stood up to him and blew him up at school 👍 he told me he was saving his little sisters bless him, he was an angry youth, always fighting with lads that reminded him of his dad, unfortunately they where big bstrds and macca was only small 🙄 so he always came off worse, 18 he's banged up for abh outside a club, he got something stupid like 4 or 6 months but his biggest mistake was telling some guards "don't point any nonces out to me" 😞
Spent a year in Stafford seg unit when i was young and you meet some characters in neighbouring cells , we would talk where the heating pipe enters the neighbours cell to keep sane. At shower time the screws would come with riot gear and shields and youre treated less than human. The worse thing was in the hight of very hot summer when two lads held a month long dirty protest God it stunk like hell down in that seg basement.
@@jakethemuss5678 well he hasn't been released but think everyone is innocent at birth no one is a killer when there born he says his family was good to him so society let him down 🙄 angry at the world I bet so is everyone......
You nailed it Stephen Tom did an incredible job portraying Charles but the movie itself lacked, they should have spent more time showing how Charles became the man he is and there was way to much weirdo psychedelic stuff going on.
Well, we can all tell Charlie is a weird psychological guy... wouldn't say the oddness of the movie didn't fit. He is a unique soul, clearly. Sure he felt some strange feelings in the way he was treated.
The film and other media industries don't survive at getting to root causes when putting forth the salient trauma drama pieces brings more viewers (customers?).
Hi Stephen I was very taken with your deep dive on the Bronson film. & I must say, largely, I agree with you. I felt terribly for the way this man was treated, whatever he may have done, & would liked to have known more of the back story, & the lead up to what was portrayed. A great shame & a great opportunity lost. Would you mind my offering up Lawrence of Arabia, for your deep dive treatment? I would be very interested to hear your take on what is, in film history, regarded as a legend. Thank you.
Британская актерская школа отличается от других. Британские актеры-это штучный товар. Эксклюзив. И Том бриллиант среди британских актеров. Это моё мнение. Обожаю Тома ❤❤❤
Big respect to everyone here and all your comments. They're all well noted. Link for the book below guys, would love yous to read it and let me know what you think.
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I think it's criminal hes still locked up.
@@snoox27 I agree it's criminal pardon the pun, and ppl would probably still turnaround and say oh that murderer, and he's not killed anyone, more luck than judgement like. Ha ha 👀😁, there's a few wronguns who were close I think. GWAN CHARLIE, I hope he gets a few years in the countryside, I think he at least deserves that after the inhumane way he's been treated. 💙👀.
Thanks very much for the insight, I'm sorry I ain't heard of you before and I have read countless books, but you sound very well educated, pls could I ask and pls don't get offended, but what was your crime and I thought Charlie hasn't been able to be padded up with anyone for yrs, especially after all the hostage taking, and living in a cell within a cell for yrs, Thank you Stephen. 👍👀🥊.
@stephen.gillen Are you a Robert De Niro fan? You have his mannerisms, imo.
How Tom Hardy didn't win every acting award in the world for this is a mystery.
the movie was meh. Hardy did a good job.
I agree, it's purely down to who he played 🤔
@@CUSELİSFAN you're opinion is MEH
How he didn't win a major award in general is beyond me.
That's when it is clearly down to who they play, serious criminal? You aren't winning too many awards, suffragette? World leader? They will throw awards your way... It should be about raw acting 👏
When he was listening to Hardy recounting Bronson’s story about cutting a piece of himself off to move on, you can see the recognition and respect for Hardy’s acting skills on his face. He was hearing Bronson’s voice through Hardy.
Hardy also got Bronsons line into his portrayal of Ronnie Kray in Legend.
dont just claim things because you would like them to be true
@@Searwitch nobody is claiming anything xD
Tom Hardy is the most dynamic and serious artist in film over his career. A real shapeshifter that abandons self to become the character. Great interview- Thanks Mates!
Most dynamic? He plays the same 2 characters every fucking time.
@@scott4868Wouldn't say most dynamic but most dynamic madman. I'd say Robert Pattenson has been more all over the place after everyone tried to fill him in as only a vampire after twilight films
I love how much empathy this bloke has for Charlie's conditions being so futile and a pressure keg, on top of whatever issues which landed you there, can't imagine anyone would cope everyday of eternal hell and not go crazy.
You can tell this guy is the genuine article. He wouldn't throw or allow an ounce of shade towards Charlie and gave him a proper send up. Top bloke.
Tom Hardy is incredible. Such an amazing actor.
"you keep kicking a dog, don't be surprised one day if it bites you" powerful line Stephen. I was in the penal system only for a sort time, 16 months, in a northern Irish prison, but in the block I've heard some squeals from people getting bones broke and arm ligaments torn from the guards themselves. It's nothing compared to what Charles has done at all but I've seen enough for a lifetime in places like that, not oldschool like you went through but definitely some pretty bad stuff from drugs and suicide. All I have to say is I hope Charles gets to see a bit of light before his day is up and I appreciate your lack of ego and genuine care for the man in this interview, absolutely stellar, Love from N.I
Alright nero mate from Belfast hear wat clink did ya go till if ya don't mind me asking
@@Galexsy-b2z Maghaberry for 4 months and the rest in Magilligan lad.
@@NeroZenith nice 1 fella
Mate I started off in the early 60’s in kids homes and remand centre for boys , from there to Borstal & YP’s and then later on many notorious prisons including Grendon, strange ways scrubs Wandsworth ,peter head ,many others one day I I’ll write the book I have always wanted to write!!
I heard northern irish prisons were a walk jn the park. Can i ask js it better to be protestant or catholic in a northern irish prison? Thanks
Him talking about Tom Hardy was really heartwarming 😅
I love how naturally camera ready these old crime dudes are
they all are story tellers. gangsters love stories lol
Also to be fair you live a life of danger a camera probably doesn't seem very scary.
@@rogerdalzell They also often like to construct their own narratives lmao
That’s just any average human though
Yeah, it's almost like they're paid actors....I work in this industry, don't believe half the shit from these channels, most of it is fake with actors
I think you're spot on about the good points and the bad points of the film. I hope Charlie gets released so he can have a chance, just a chance, of living a bit of life. He never killed no one, the prison service went to work on him and never let up.
I hope Charlie gets to be your next door neighbour.
That'll be OK, right? Right?
@@raypurchase801 Ray bloody Purchase!
@@dexocube Is that you, Clem?
Wait, do you guys know each other?
Well said.
dude does a legit film critique and is very intelligent and emotionally intelligent. It was really refreshing and I am impressed.
The difference with Mr Gillen is that I haven't come across a single instance in any of his vids or interviews where he could be accused of boasting about or even coming as remotely proud of his criminal past. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he is proud of how he handled certain situations and I'm sure he has many happy memories from those times as well but he is totally building his rep around his repentance and doesn't encourage any of the usual hero worship or fear these guys seem to crave.
Big thumbs up for Stephen Gillen
He's just telling the story how it is no glory. Gotta respect it 17 years in four walls will change a man's perspective on life
COs used to get mad at me in MDOC bcuz I told them and showed them it would not change me! lmao
Any person that spends that amount of time in prison will find good times. That's not their fault, they are forced to continue life in a situation they can't escape. To expect any person to just dwell in the worst for all their time in, is not only cruel, but inhumane.
I'm saying this in context, not as n response. No one here implied anything other.
Well, you see, unlike many, he don't need too, he knows where he was in the game as do others who are of a same ilk and he knows how he done his bird. Ego tends to leave when you've been thru and done it all, along with the mind and values changing there's no need . It would be a let down to himself and loved ones imo
This guy does a great job of critiquing the film and painting a picture of what prison and Charlie are like.
"We'll have a Guinness later"
I died 😂
Really!!
As a whole Bronson really told the story of how Charlie was molded into a unremorseful convict. The penal system really did a number on him, and was rightfully every bit as guilty if not more than Charlie ever was. I also like the way they went into depth about Charlie (formally known as Michael Peterson) having to deal with social and societal dilemmas as well. It really incorporated his inner struggles not only as a convict but as a man as well. All and all Mr. Gillen did an excellent job critiquing the film behind Charlie Bronson's earlie life.
He was a dangerous psychopath who didn't care who got hurt, he showed he was never going to reform his behaviour and now he's so old and mad if he was let out he might just grab a shotgun and start shooting people for the fun of it. Let him rot, he's scum.
Penal😄😁😁
Stephen surprised the hell out of me. I judged a book by its cover (past history) and made an ass of my self. Stephen is incredibly articulate and thoughtful. I love that I found his channel and will definitely enjoy his content and films.
Im glad that he seems pleased with Hardy's perfomance and gives us a look into how he truly was when they were cell mates
Bronsons cell mate? I bet I know who had the remote controller for the tv!
There was no remote coz Charlie always ate it....only way they turned it over was a full on volly too the side off the the telly..3,4 vollys...and if a channel skipped one too many Steve vollied the other side the telly....was a Russian telly I heard.... apparently still works now...
Yeah no TVs in that cell block.haha
Cell mate to a cat A prisoner? I smell bullshit.
Not Bronson because he a little girl
Remote control bought from a can of tuna
I was very lucky to have a part in this film, to say it was the best experience of my life.
U were so lucky what part did u play??
An incredible watch, you are so well spoken, every word is deliberate and thought out.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for sharing this. I live in Alaska and am watching this on a boat carrying cargo. It's amazing how far technology has come. I'm glad to hear Hardy captured some of his essence; makes it all the better. Glad you're doing so well in your life and look forward to watching more videos on your channel as a new subscriber. All the best.
Woahhhh that's awesome dude
Right on Shane, thank you for your lovely comment. Stay safe in those cold waters brother
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As someone who knows being locked up, your expression at 2:57 pulled on my heartstrings.
Finally!!! A real one who is articulate, credible, and not big manning it or glorifying the life. Subscribed. What a refreshing change this guy is to the usual bell ends we normally get for this kind of thing.
This guy is great. Very well spoken and no big ego.
Brilliant review! I love how you don’t just give your perspective of events or look at the factuality of things, but you critique the storytelling how the art of the cinema. Bravo!
I’ve got PTSD and instead of treating me I was given drugs that changed my physiology, slowed me down and I call them a chemical straight jacket. I dread to think what they dosed Mr Bronson with against his will and how that would have affected him even more.
What the system has done to him is unforgivable.
Agreed real men as touted their masculinity may be are punished and held down to save and protect this unjust system we have. I the past the emphasizes was on physical violence against inmates today you get chemically castrated. It's a hideous evil. The newest trick is to make ppl especially woman addicted to social media Fry their brain with superstimuli like 7 figures, 7 inches and at least 6'3 tall - in that way upper-class pr*cks bind 80% of all woman no matter the class. Taking away massively options for young low class men to develop their masculinity and strive for smth. It's all this social ingeneering crap of the Transhumanists. This upper-class families marry since centuries inside their group when famine, war and poverty f up the epigenetic of the ordinary working or farming men, this guy got always optimal nurturing. So they grow 3 to 4 inches taller as the other classes their faces more fair cause of good diet and they don't carry around psychology of scarcity. On the other side they don't develop the compassionate fighting heart cause they hadn't the necessity to do. But today's fried young woman's brain just perceive blink and shine of Instagram. And if you don't have it you don't make it. The gap is bigger as ever and therefore any low class young men look for answers to this unbearable situation. Crime was always one of the answers of the exploited and under privileged to get his needs met.
I hope you are good!
Charlie caught Hepatitis from a dirty needle, how terrible is that. 👀🤐.
May you overcome and defeat the pain of PTSD. God bless.
This is a beautifully articulated and humane analysis and explanation. It does a lot for a normy like me to be educated and less judgemental about inmates in general. Thank you sir.
Quite simply Stephen this was absolutely brilliant..I loved this review immensely ❤️
One of the best British accents ever. What a cool dude. BTW, I think Tom Hardy is one of the best actors we have today, he did his job very well, too bad the writers were more intrested in shocking the public than telling a true story.
He’s actually British if I’m not mistaken
bronson gave tom profound advice that is really accurate and true. Pain can flood over you..rejection can drive u mad. 'cutting off' is really how it felt when i was finally able to move on.
I love this accent, I struggle to hear that at all in London these days. And no I don’t mean foreign people at all, nothing racist about that comment, I mean the accent isn’t the same anymore among Londoners anymore.
Your right it was unique because it came from London with no outside influences unlike today's accent you hear there. That accent is still quite strong in Essex though.
Let's not beat around the bush here get to the point y are people's scared to tell the truth just come visit London urself use Ur own eyes and ears there's not many of us EastEnders left London literally has had the flood gates opened on it nd it is going under
@@richwilliams4750 Let them beat around the bush. They will be spat out and told, "I never knew you".
As long as they weren't that dreaded R word that was created by the synagogue of satan, then it's ok
You hear the London accent all the time 🤷🏻♂️
My mate from Bethnal Green has a dead ringer accent, a straight up and down bloke who breaks out laughing at himself when he tries to tell you a lie.
This is a highly articulate account from someone who's walked the walk. Great insight. 👍
I really respect you for what you said about them demonizing him. "The press has demonized him and so has the prison service but he's a human being just like anyone else". I think that's really important for people to understand that he's a prisoner, a violent one, but he's a human being who went through a lot and never got the help he needed. Some people can rise above and others it consumes without proper help and unfortunately he's one that was consumed and the prison system has made him even worse. Rather than judge him, we should figure out how to help people so that they don't end up in the same position as him. Respect to you Stephen.
I like him and I've been to jail myself but he's demonized them by taking them hostage, he brought it all in himself.
Real talk!!!
U guys are too nice to him he has victims and would victimize u if he could
@@darrenhenderson6921 Humans take hostages. Demons are evil creatures that were never human and seem to not actually exist... Demonizing means we are not actually doing any analysis, no looking into how things could have been different, what improvements could be made so it does not keep happening to more humans... It is just smart to not demonize people since that closes you off from a realistic assessment...
well he may have been violent but was doing more hard time than m urderers who have taken multiple lives
This man is amazingly articulate - good interview
2002 belmarsh, house block 3. Ground floor. Next door to me. Love to see man’s progress!! ✊🏽 big up G ✊🏽
You did such a wonderful job telling the tale. It's something to hear it through the words of someone who knows him so well. Very good video sir, sheers!
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Awwww bless Charlie, he's a lovely bloke with a massive Hart, it's discusting that THAY havent let the fella out, he's not a danger to anyone, THAY should let Charlie out after nearly 50 years locked away the fella has done way more time than he should have, FREE THE MAN,
HE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS TREATMENT AT ALL, ITS ABUSE BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!! AND ITS DISCUSTING WHAT THERE DOING KEEPING HIM LOCKED AWAY FROM SOCIATY, LET HIM OUT FREE CHARLIE BRONSON HE DOES NOT DESERVE THIS TREARMENR, PLEASE SEND MY LOVE AND BEST WISHES TO TO CHARLIE, AND TELL HIM WE ARE ALL BEHIND HIM, BIG HUGS TO CHARLIE, FROM DANIELLE HELLAM, FROM WAKEFIELD WEST YORKSHIRE, MUCH LOVE. CHARLIE SHOULD BE FREE....... FREE CHARLIE BRONSON,
DONT TOUCH MY ARSE!
Ppl
Who is the gay guy who comes singing about tea?
Bronsons advice to tom about cutting things of even if it hurts is something everyone should tale a deep look into themself and follow that advice . Brilliant advice and way of telling it
Hello Stephen Gillen now i live in New Zealand now I have read that Charlie Bronson aka Salvadore Bronson was pen pals with chopper read have you considered looking at Eric Bana as Mark Chopper read??? and the antics in h block where chopper was placed and the incident of him cutting his ears off???
This was brill mate thanks so much! 🤩👍💖
The real deal.. thanks for the interview..
would really love to see a series made of charlies upbringing and what he went through as a young adult to be the way he was to earn that 10/10 charlie bronson score
I really enjoyed your commentary in this, really thought out and articulate
I agree it need a more fleshing out of Bronson's story, but Tom did an excellent job in his portrayal of the Charley. The quirks, the mannerisms, the anger and tension that would just emulate trough the screen. This is really apparent in one scene. I won't spoil it, but, man when they say "less is more", Hardy nails it in this scene. The tension and the anger is just simmering under the surface, but he puts on a brave face and does what Charley does, something impulsive.
More backstory would have been better, but the psychedelic style really brought me back to the 70's and I was only 6 in '74, so I think that helps me related to the time, because memories like that are in a dream state. Kind of what Charley was walking through.
Thanks ..Great interview/content ..Good watch
I enjoyed that Stephen. Hope you’re well 💯
My brother in-law, sadly passed now, spent a while as Charlie's neighbour when they were both guests at an establishment owned by the Queen. He had some funny stories to tell, spoke well of Charlie said he was really funny and is mentioned in Charlie's book
Film and actor should have been Oscar nommed. Film of the year.
This was fantastic! Thanks Mate
I think people by default have the notion that movies need to portray someone as accurately as possible, and that is what the movie is for. Especially if they knew the person. I heard that with every movie that people that knew the person would say, they didn't entirely get that person right. Jim Morrison. Andy Kaufman, and many others. This guy even said, because they didn't, they let the audience down. But the audience came to see an exciting movie. Documentaries are made to try and give people an idea of who someone was. Movies are to tell a story, in an interesting way, not just try to do an exact cover of who someone was.
wow! good interview God bless you too!🙏
Stephen reminds me of the late great Tommy Cooper! (The way he looks anyways!)
This is the first time I've come across him and I really like how honest, grounded and authentic he is. A proper oldskool decent geezer!
Brilliant interview 👏
All Charlie needed was some love, affection and a friend to be there for him or a family that really tried to be a family for him. Society let him down and left him to go mad.
that is so true
Ha you try to love a self centered criminal I’m good here I bet if you met him before he went to prison he’s the type to cut your face you obviously never spent time with true criminals like people who don’t care and don’t want to you ever spent time in a room with someone who gives you the vibe you get when you’re walking alone in the dark and you’re neck hair goes up thank god my cousin knew him cause he you can tell and their always kind and chill but wierd in like you can feel you don’t wanna be alone with him like if you ever got the feelings not to go down that way I get gut feelings about people most times they are right you can’t save everyone some enjoy what they do but if they put it out front less victims comes like if they see I recognize my faults they’ll assume I’ll try to change but I am lazy and disheartened
his family loved him watch the documentary
Loved this, very interesting piece and some great questions great interview and respectable
I find it admirable that you have such attention to detail in reviewing this film. i think you really care about Charlie and i think it makes you a very good friend and a good person
Interesting to hear some one's personal experience. Iv admired charlie for many years. Thank you for your time. And big up charlie
His art is really impressive, at first i thought it kind of meh but the more he does the more i think he is a secret genius. There is so much going on in every painting he does it's like a feast for the eyes.
Let the man out!! Sending my love from East Texas
Just like Tom playing both Kray twins, he has to interpret what is written in the script and will not necessarily represent every aspect of the individual he is playing. It is a film. Eric Bana portrayed Mark Chopper Reid perfectly because he actually spent time with Chopper before playing the role and learnt specific traits about his personality.
so did Tom Hardy
@@bradbennett9970 I have not seen the film or really know much about Bronson, but apparently he enjoyed Hardy's portrayal.
"Neville!, I heard you wanna give me a bit of money"
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"There's no cash here Chopper, cash none".
You’ve been rude chop, very very rude.
Thank you for this. I had been on the fence about watching this movie, because I was unsure how well this story was going to be told. I know I could trust Tom Hardy to portray someone as accurately as possible. I don’t trust the rest of the business.
Looking forward to watching this movie, now.
Thanks, Steve. Cheers! ❤
TOM HARDY, one of the best British actors of all time 😊 spot on, 👀🤐.
I need to watch Bronson again. It's been since about 2010 that I've seen it and I'm grateful it's on Tubi still. As someone that was in and out of treatment centers for 6 years, I can somewhat relate to Charlie 🙏
For me the movie was a gateway. Without it I would know nothing of this fascinating man. After seeing it I went down a rabbit hole on him and even bought Solitary Fitness. Hopefully they let him breathe some free air before he dies.
Really enjoyed that nice 1
He's a legend 💯 much respect and👍🏻 From Christchurch New Zealand 💯🇳🇿
This is amazing how you got this guy!
One of the greatest crimes of this country is leaving a man like Bronson to rot in prison with no legitimate reason. It’s incredibly sad what has happened to him and it’ll be a stain on this country for years to come.
No legitimate reason? So beating people up left right & centre, taking hostages, all the nutty stuff he's done isn't legitimate reason for punishment?? Sorry but it's plenty legit.
It's still a shame though, he's never going to be allowed to progress, how can he rehabilitate sat in a cell talking to himself? He can't can he, & it's a waste, I say send him back on the wing at an A cat for a few months, then give him c cat, test him for 6 months, then Tey a year at d cat, then you can give him a chance of a life. If not, give him a gun & a bullet, let his misery end.
Yup, no need at all. The post office he originally robbed is just down the road from my grandma. I believe it is still there!
Bronson should be released IMMEDIATELY and become your next door neighbour.
One day he'll accuse you of watching him from your window, or parking your car too close to his house or not using the rubbish and recycling bins properly. What happens next?
And THAT (very sadly) is why Bronson needs to remain inside.
@@raypurchase801 that's what people don't want to hear, he's a violent man and got more time for being really violent, should they just laugh that off? people say whatever but like you say if he moved in across the street they would be singing a different tune. it is what it is
Everyone will be judged at the end for everything and those in authority meaning the judicial/court system, prison guards, warden, etc will be judged as well.
You too, like Charlie, it's clear you're a very intelligent, wise man. I watch your videos to learn about fellas. I've never been lucky enough to meet. Fellas, I'm extremely fond of but that I'll never meet. Guys like Charlie.
Just an awesome video, thanks for this. Was Charlie able to ever find any peace? Being kept in such an awful place like that.
You said something early in this video that struck home. "But he's a human being like anyone else" and how people react to their surroundings and how people treat them... I'm recently retired from working maximum locked psych units. The best advice I had in my early career in 1980 when I started was "treat them like a human being like anyone else". This served me well in my 37 years with violent psych patients. The mutual respect goes a long long way to having a working relationship in any institution...
There's obviously a line in terms of they are in prison, so perhaps no weapons or tools for escape. But yeah, I used to know some pretty screwed up people, it was a genuine shock when I started to work security and the folks I was securing the building against weren't half as bad. Having nearly been murdered on multiple occasions, I still believe that in general it's best to show people at least basic human respect, even if you refuse to have anything to do with them in private.
I've certainly found trust and respect, but verify to be the right call in nearly all cases.
It’s a great film and Refn is a great filmmaker. Tom Hardy may be the best living actor. Thanks for this!
I genuinely didn’t realise Charles Bronson was STILL alive. For some reason, I had just assumed he had been dead for a while.
The hospital scenes in the film were when he was at Rampton (Nottinghamshire)… Tom Hardy was brilliant in this
What a great review Stephen from you of the film Branson. Hi hope it all works out for Charlie.in the upcoming parole.?.respect Stephen...
Watched ya channel from time to time, and from ya past to the present I say you are a absolute inspiration and I congratulate you sir !!! Long life and happiness is my wish for you 🙏
Fascinating interview.
I had to watch the film a few times to fully understand what was taking place around and to him.
I'm glad he had people around him who treated him with respect. Hard time make hard people and someday we will need and want people like Charley around to get us through the hard days ahead
Absolutely loved this video breakdown Stephen. New to your chanel but love your straight up decent and honest assessment of the film and Charlie himself. RESPECT. Glad they chose Tom Hardy for the film. Another genuine geezer and you can see Charlie respected him.
I enjoyed listening to this intelligent, wise man. I feel nothing but sorry for Charlie and shame for the system that has failed him. I hope he gets out soon.
Great vid mate
Charlie is ALL of us, a prisoner if uncontrolled
Just watched this film a couple of days ago for the first time.. absolute masterpiece. Loved it.
I would love to see you critique the Aussie classic “Chopper”.
What's more natural than a prisoner taking prisoners when he gets the chance?
this is great. one of my favorite films, thank you.
This Bronson movie was what made me fall in love with Tom Hardy as an actor.
Stephen, you should do a film on how Charlie was shaped in his earlier days and then by the prison system.
We are the public should be pushing for charlie, Stephen if you can change he has to have a chance
Hi Stephen,just wanna say this was fantastic mate,its about 3 rd time ive watched it snd it was great to hear your perspective on the prison and Charlie..ive been inside 5 times but the most was 11 month Armley in Leeds.. however..i still saw some horrible horrible trouble and bullying,which i hated...thanks for this Stephen...top bloke
@Tomhardy-xd4sn Hi,I'm from Wakefield,West Yorkshire UK mate,how about yourself
You just confirmed everything I suspected about Charlie, my heart has gone out to him over the years bless him, I so hope he gets out soon and enjoys whatever he's got left..👍❤
I'd love you to do one on Robert Mawdesley the "scouse cannibal" 😳 🙄 talk about set up..😳 I grew up with a lad who's dad was a paedophile, he was a middle child of 9, when the father worked his way down the line to him, aged 10, he stood up to him and blew him up at school 👍 he told me he was saving his little sisters bless him, he was an angry youth, always fighting with lads that reminded him of his dad, unfortunately they where big bstrds and macca was only small 🙄 so he always came off worse, 18 he's banged up for abh outside a club, he got something stupid like 4 or 6 months but his biggest mistake was telling some guards "don't point any nonces out to me" 😞
Tom Hardys fav actor is Gary Oldman, it shows! Gary's my fav too, him & Daniel Day.
Spent a year in Stafford seg unit when i was young and you meet some characters in neighbouring cells , we would talk where the heating pipe enters the neighbours cell to keep sane. At shower time the screws would come with riot gear and shields and youre treated less than human. The worse thing was in the hight of very hot summer when two lads held a month long dirty protest God it stunk like hell down in that seg basement.
Really enjoyed this
Charlie's story is so touching I wish people who reform all the best
Unfortunately charlie hasn't reformed and shows now remorse and is still making threats to kill people when he gets released
@@jakethemuss5678 well he hasn't been released but think everyone is innocent at birth no one is a killer when there born he says his family was good to him so society let him down 🙄 angry at the world I bet so is everyone......
Cool video man! Bronson is certainly a very very interesting character 👍 enjoyed this
You nailed it Stephen Tom did an incredible job portraying Charles but the movie itself lacked, they should have spent more time showing how Charles became the man he is and there was way to much weirdo psychedelic stuff going on.
Well, we can all tell Charlie is a weird psychological guy... wouldn't say the oddness of the movie didn't fit. He is a unique soul, clearly. Sure he felt some strange feelings in the way he was treated.
"way to much weirdo psychedelic stuff going on."
I mean, it is a Refn film.
The film and other media industries don't survive at getting to root causes when putting forth the salient trauma drama pieces brings more viewers (customers?).
@@tomguglielmo9805 psychedelic not psychological
@@michaeldobbs4249 so he was high all the time on psychedelics?
Hi Stephen
I was very taken with your deep dive on the Bronson film. &
I must say, largely, I agree with you.
I felt terribly for the way this man was treated, whatever he may have done, & would liked to have known more of the back story, & the lead up to what was portrayed.
A great shame & a great opportunity lost.
Would you mind my offering up Lawrence of Arabia, for your deep dive treatment? I would be very interested to hear your take on what is, in film history, regarded as a legend. Thank you.
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Great Review!!! 👍👍💯