I don't like the 6x24 tiles. The tiles are not long enough to look like wood. The 6 x 36 are the best. The 6 x 48 are too long as they can have a bow in the tile causing all kinds of spacing problems. The random layout you did is excellent. I would also prefer a grout that is the same color as the tile so that it cuts down or eliminates the outlining of the tile. I use the DEP lash levelers for spacing and to ensure no lippage from one tile to another.
Responding to an old comment but for 6x48 and 8x48 there are leveling systems that the pros use now. And manufacturers have been aware of the issue for years now and have modified the manufacturing and curing process. It’s still a problem to some degree but not as bad as it used to be. And installers always figure 10% waste when ordering in case they run in to unusable tile.
So we started laying out flooring this past weekend and it is much harder than we thought. For us it is taking much longer because we have to level each tile and it take more mortar per tile than what I believe is in this video. We are doing it tile by tile because eof the leveling.
so i have a question i am getting wood tile floors in my kitchen livingroom and resroom tomorrow can you step on it right after they finish may a few hours later ?? caused in other videos they said you will have to wait 24 hrs later ?? ..or do they used anything to dry it up fast or something ???
You said no ladder, or H patterns but how did you lay them then. Be helpful see the pattern to use as I doing same wood effect living room floor using 900mm lengths
Can you start tiling from a wall? I keep seeing people doing it that way but someone insisted I have to start from the middle of the room. They are a plank pattern
What I don't get starts about 4:00 into it, looks like the right side of the room was already done, then he's filling in the FIVE rows between them. I'm thinking if so, how did he know the spaces were going to end up exactly even, perhaps he was completing a job somebody else started, or whatever? I'd just presumed the whole job was going to be left to right as he worked toward the exit(s) of the room. Also I noticed some of the areas had the grout lines going parallel with the length of the tiles not perpendicular as it was on most areas which is how the HD website says it needs to be.
Those tiles are set yet, they are just measured out and set down to see how they will fit. It’s best to measure your pieces first and cut them so when you have your mortar ready to go, it doesn’t dry out while your trying to make your cuts
@@ismaelfernandez8666 Oh, so they were just set down dry to sorta fit them, I figured that was the case because it would be nearly impossible to have started in the center than start over at the far end and expect them to join up perfectly. I laid out 2 boxes of them dry to look at them and they look great. Trouble is I got to get my floor joists level first before I re-install my new subfloor which is 3/4" Advantech. My house is 71 years old and had the weak and squeeky pine planks which were nailed down. I have added four sister joists in the center of the room to keep them from buckling over time. I ask myself if I should just have linoleum put down but than I keep in mind, no sacrifice, no reward. I don't want a mundane floor after going thru all of this, the wood look tiles like yours look great, it will be worth it.
Great video thank you. Did you grout your tiles? I’ve seen many vids without grouting so I’m just wondering. No one would answer my question. I’m thinking you did, just didn’t use any spacer and not shown on the vid. Please please confirm. Ty.
It seems like he just butted them up to each other, I've never heard of such a thing. I know he said he didn't use spacers because the tiles aren't perfectly square
Professional????? Rookie at best. He never back buttered and he played ZERO floor support layers or waterproofing layers. Nonstop tiles cracking and popping loose. Lazy effort. One should not say great professional video when they have no clue what they are saying. Clearly you do not what a professional job looks like. No gap supports, he was just guestimating he said. Another lazy tactic to save pennies that will cost many dollars and repairs later. Just stupid. Not the guy I want laying a floor for me. Short lived good looks are temporary. Do it properly the first time.
How do you know which way to lay the tile. I have a long bathroom when you walk in it’s short and you look to the left it goes about 12-15 foot. So when I walk in would I be looking at the tiles like you have them here or the opposite. Hope that makes sense.
And if you use leveling clips YOU MUST BACK BUTTER👍The clips raise the tile a bit but do give you a completely Flat floor👍 Doing 900 sq ft now. Much Respect coz its a Lot of Hard Work👍👍👍😁😁
Old school trick is to drop a metal ball bearing on the floor and see if it rolls to a certain area, if it does, that would be a low spot. Drop it in a few different spots on the floor and check the results
I have seen some tile layers use a long( 6-8-10 foot ) level to determine how level the floor is . They lay it on the floor and look for high/ low places..
You said at about 30 seconds into it you used 1/4" x 1/2" trowel, I was under the understanding that I should use a 1/2" x 1/2" square notched trowel based on it being "large format" tile. I'm planning on using the exact same tile as in this video.
This is called “random lay”, i have a video explaining it too, and all tiles are 6x24 but there isnt a pattern. The point is to make it look like real hardwood
I'm pretty sure it from Home Depot, it's what I think I'm about to use, $1.49 per sq. ft. isn't bad for porcelain tile..if it isn't it is 6" x 24" for sure: Montagna Rustic Bay, which they do have stocked at the store (no special ordering)..also comes in equally popular ash gray, 5 star ratings on this (with about 2,000+ ratings). I looked thru the other comments and replies didn't see any reply to confirm this is that exact tile but the search engine brought me here with that brand and color.
When i lay tile I always use the levelers from home depot. They are the white t-shaped plastic pieces that raise the tile off the floor a little bit, then the yellow wedges that make two tiles next to each other even. This avoids what the industry calls "lippage" where there is a ridge from one tile to another
Looks pretty nice. I like the color of the walls here. I have similar tile that I’m putting in my house right now. Having to do a room at a time kind of thing to work on days off/weekends but it’s coming along really well. Tile I got was from Lowe’s and called woods 6x24 porcelain tile in graphite color. Using the charcoal colored grout along with it. Looks killer. That along with 5 1/2 tall baseboards in super bright white looks awesome. Wish I could post a pic here. Oh well,
Hey Tristan thanks for the comment, no primer just clean the slab really good from any texture and overspray paint then leveler of course, i always level the slabs specially when we lay wood look tile
@@OBFTILE thank you! For the quick response. Didn't mean to be rude. I was just asking as i am planning to do this myself but after watching a ton of videos , you are the one that makes it look the easier. But also noticed you didn't mention anything about the primer and leveling the floor before actually start laying it down.
I think budget is one issue; other aspects might be the grout line and tile texture. They used 1/8, relatively thin grout line so lippage may not show that easily. Also the texture of this tile might allow for a higher tolerance for lippage.
Can this be used on an entire first floor level of a home and maybe second. Is there a downside to doing the heating and cooling wise during the 4 seasons ?
I just had my house tiled with 6 x 24 tiles and the guy used the "brick" pattern which is lay the tile in a split in half pattern. I've done tons of research after the fact and the general consensus is you layout the tile in 3rds and use a tile leveling system to help prevent lippage. My tile has lippage all over the place. I might re-tile.
Dexter Norris no sir you need grout joints for movement, tiles will expand and contract You also need a space along the wall so your floors never bubble up in case they decide to expand
looks like they centered the next row to the first row, in other words, all the tile on the second row started at the center of the first tile in the first row. Looks like that's the easiest way, and I've seen this pattern before and it looks good.
@@raymondolguin7550 So you don't consider centering every other consecutive row a pattern? It might not be a picture, but a uniform change up on every other row still constitutes a pattern. Doesn't it?
I do tile. So the edge of the tile is not straight down. When you butt it up against the tile, it already leaves some space since the edge of the tile curves outward. The row can be started random. Like if there's a cut piece that was a leftover, then you can use that to start your row.
SuperMegawoman you dont NEED it, but it will definitely help your tile life lasting a lot longer without cracks Please dont lay over vinyl because your installation will only be as good as the vinyl under it and definitely dont use vinyl as an underlayment
Aren't you supposed to square up stuff first and snap some chalk lines, so you don't go blindly? you have to follow something don't you? and shouldn't you also have so sort of straight edge?lm just saying, plus after you do your layout, don't you square stuff up?.
I lay 3-4 tiles on the floor using the spacer i want (1/8” for example) and use that same dimension over and over. If i get narrower or wider tiles it doesn’t matter as long as I distribute the spacing within that space. My line will always be parallel to my main control line even if the tiles are slightly bigger, smaller or even out of square
True tile layer. Don’t overthink shit and it works out fine. Good job. 👍🏼💪🏼
I don't like the 6x24 tiles. The tiles are not long enough to look like wood. The 6 x 36 are the best. The 6 x 48 are too long as they can have a bow in the tile causing all kinds of spacing problems. The random layout you did is excellent. I would also prefer a grout that is the same color as the tile so that it cuts down or eliminates the outlining of the tile. I use the DEP lash levelers for spacing and to ensure no lippage from one tile to another.
Responding to an old comment but for 6x48 and 8x48 there are leveling systems that the pros use now. And manufacturers have been aware of the issue for years now and have modified the manufacturing and curing process. It’s still a problem to some degree but not as bad as it used to be. And installers always figure 10% waste when ordering in case they run in to unusable tile.
Wow. You're definitely a professional ❤❤❤
A KISS video! Love it. And that floor looked great.
Really good work guys. Great tips, made it easy to wrap my head around. I appreciate the vid!
Yes, me too!
My floors turned out really good as a result of this video.
I definitely needed that “remove excess thin set” tip!!
Im glad it helped
Do you have to grout tile like that or seal it if it’s in a bathroom
Great job my friend !
So we started laying out flooring this past weekend and it is much harder than we thought. For us it is taking much longer because we have to level each tile and it take more mortar per tile than what I believe is in this video. We are doing it tile by tile because eof the leveling.
I know this is a year old but how did you level the tiles? Everything I’ve seen uses the wedges and that doesn’t seem like it would take too long
so i have a question i am getting wood tile floors in my kitchen livingroom and resroom tomorrow can you step on it right after they finish may a few hours later ?? caused in other videos they said you will have to wait 24 hrs later ?? ..or do they used anything to dry it up fast or something ???
Are in Oklahoma you did a wonderful job
I wish every how to video look like this! Really informative and easy to catch up
You said no ladder, or H patterns but how did you lay them then. Be helpful see the pattern to use as I doing same wood effect living room floor using 900mm lengths
I wander how you get tiles in that pattern. Any specific measurements, cuts? Thanks
No, its random
Do you need cement board if you’re not on the first floor?
So helpful thank you!! Question what is the name of this flooring ?
Didn't he say avoid H's, staggering, and 5" off sets? If you look at the picture you find all 3. I wonder if he meant any of those styles inclusivity.
Can you start tiling from a wall? I keep seeing people doing it that way but someone insisted I have to start from the middle of the room. They are a plank pattern
So back buttering not required?
What is that wall color please?
What color are the walls ?
Would it be better to start from the entry doorway of the room just in case the room is not square?
How do you grout?
Your not doing any back buttering was that cut off of video?
Great job. Looks beautiful!
Great Video !
Thanks
What was the color of the grout or did you guys not put any?
What I don't get starts about 4:00 into it, looks like the right side of the room was already done, then he's filling in the FIVE rows between them. I'm thinking if so, how did he know the spaces were going to end up exactly even, perhaps he was completing a job somebody else started, or whatever? I'd just presumed the whole job was going to be left to right as he worked toward the exit(s) of the room. Also I noticed some of the areas had the grout lines going parallel with the length of the tiles not perpendicular as it was on most areas which is how the HD website says it needs to be.
Those tiles are set yet, they are just measured out and set down to see how they will fit. It’s best to measure your pieces first and cut them so when you have your mortar ready to go, it doesn’t dry out while your trying to make your cuts
@@ismaelfernandez8666 Oh, so they were just set down dry to sorta fit them, I figured that was the case because it would be nearly impossible to have started in the center than start over at the far end and expect them to join up perfectly. I laid out 2 boxes of them dry to look at them and they look great. Trouble is I got to get my floor joists level first before I re-install my new subfloor which is 3/4" Advantech. My house is 71 years old and had the weak and squeeky pine planks which were nailed down. I have added four sister joists in the center of the room to keep them from buckling over time. I ask myself if I should just have linoleum put down but than I keep in mind, no sacrifice, no reward. I don't want a mundane floor after going thru all of this, the wood look tiles like yours look great, it will be worth it.
Great video thank you. Did you grout your tiles? I’ve seen many vids without grouting so I’m just wondering. No one would answer my question. I’m thinking you did, just didn’t use any spacer and not shown on the vid. Please please confirm. Ty.
I was wondering that too it was shown on the video
I was wondering about the grout too?
It seems like he just butted them up to each other, I've never heard of such a thing. I know he said he didn't use spacers because the tiles aren't perfectly square
is there specific guidance for the random offset? how do you do it, I'm trying to explain my installer
Ur installer should know how?
question regarding the floor if i have plywood floor do i have to use a membrane first ?
Yes, either uncoupling membrane or 1/4” cement board with thinset under and screws every 8”
I can grasp the concept of laying tile in a room. But what if doing a whole house with the same type tile?
Is this on concrete? 1:20
very professional lesson , no nonsense here ... excellent ! thank you !
Professional????? Rookie at best. He never back buttered and he played ZERO floor support layers or waterproofing layers. Nonstop tiles cracking and popping loose. Lazy effort. One should not say great professional video when they have no clue what they are saying. Clearly you do not what a professional job looks like. No gap supports, he was just guestimating he said. Another lazy tactic to save pennies that will cost many dollars and repairs later. Just stupid. Not the guy I want laying a floor for me. Short lived good looks are temporary. Do it properly the first time.
Awesome Video!!!! what's the minimum gap for 6 x 24" small bathroom floor porcelain tiles? is 1/16" fine? It's over 2" mud.
I think we might have to get these tiles for downstairs and keep the laminate flooring upstairs
Can i use 2mm spacer in 150mm × 800mm tile (6 × 31 inches)??
Wow he made that look so easy, I thought I could lay my own tile but🤦🏾♀️
How do you know which way to lay the tile. I have a long bathroom when you walk in it’s short and you look to the left it goes about 12-15 foot. So when I walk in would I be looking at the tiles like you have them here or the opposite. Hope that makes sense.
Always lay them the long way
If your room is 12*15 then run the lines along the wall thats 15’ long
It will make the room look bigger
I’m your 1000k subscriber. Lol any special discounts lol. Cool videos!
And if you use leveling clips YOU MUST BACK BUTTER👍The clips raise the tile a bit but do give you a completely Flat floor👍 Doing 900 sq ft now. Much Respect coz its a Lot of Hard Work👍👍👍😁😁
Correct, you must use 1/2x1/2” trowel and mix your thinset a tiny bit on the loose side so the tiles can be pushed down
@@OBFTILE even then i sum how have 2 tiles with a hollow sound when i tap on them with a coin so they must come up😐😐😐
love how this looks! my question is if you have a large room, how would you make sure the floors are level?
Old school trick is to drop a metal ball bearing on the floor and see if it rolls to a certain area, if it does, that would be a low spot. Drop it in a few different spots on the floor and check the results
get a big leveler to find low spot on floor,.
I have seen some tile layers use a long( 6-8-10 foot ) level to determine how level the floor is . They lay it on the floor and look for high/ low places..
Nice.. If I may when I do laying tiles in my house where will I start? Can I start with the bedrooms? Or anywhere in the house? Thank you..
If its the whole house start by the main door or hallway because thats your focal point
@@OBFTILE thank you sir. On the center of the hallway?
Which size trowel do you suggest?
1/2x1/2
You said at about 30 seconds into it you used 1/4" x 1/2" trowel, I was under the understanding that I should use a 1/2" x 1/2" square notched trowel based on it being "large format" tile. I'm planning on using the exact same tile as in this video.
If your floors are prepped flat you can use a smaller trowel as long as you backbutter
1/2x1/2 wouldn’t hurt
So what pattern did u use?? I see diferent zise cuts...on the tile
This is called “random lay”, i have a video explaining it too, and all tiles are 6x24 but there isnt a pattern. The point is to make it look like real hardwood
What the name of that specific wood tile??
Awesome!! Where in TX are y’all at? I’m in Crowley. If y’all are not close, can y’all recommend someone? Thank you.
wanted to see the grouting part too
How much did you charge
how big is your grout line between tiles? Thanks
1/16 - 1/8, tiles were not consistent that's why I only used a chalk line and no spacers
I like your channel!
Hey bro. What if I was to start from the wall out with only one chalk line on the first role?
Do you have to back butter each tile?
Yes
I suppose the floor was already flat? I’d like to know in detail how to do random patterns
yes, we prep our floors with Mapei's Planipatch to fill any low spots and grind down any abnormal peaks with a 7' grinder and a cup wheel
do you back butter your tiles?
Yes, in this video you cant see it because its happening off camera but back buttering is a very important step, specially for porcelain tiles
What kind of tile is this i really like the colors and textures
I'm pretty sure it from Home Depot, it's what I think I'm about to use, $1.49 per sq. ft. isn't bad for porcelain tile..if it isn't it is 6" x 24" for sure: Montagna Rustic Bay, which they do have stocked at the store (no special ordering)..also comes in equally popular ash gray, 5 star ratings on this (with about 2,000+ ratings). I looked thru the other comments and replies didn't see any reply to confirm this is that exact tile but the search engine brought me here with that brand and color.
When i lay tile I always use the levelers from home depot. They are the white t-shaped plastic pieces that raise the tile off the floor a little bit, then the yellow wedges that make two tiles next to each other even. This avoids what the industry calls "lippage" where there is a ridge from one tile to another
These tiles were active pretty flat but 36” long tiles usually need leveling systems for sure
I noticed Ditra wasn’t used here. I thought Ditra is always necessary when installing tile?
What pattern did you use for your tile layout
Random just like a real wood floor
How mucho does a jobo like thato costo
Looks pretty nice. I like the color of the walls here. I have similar tile that I’m putting in my house right now. Having to do a room at a time kind of thing to work on days off/weekends but it’s coming along really well. Tile I got was from Lowe’s and called woods 6x24 porcelain tile in graphite color. Using the charcoal colored grout along with it. Looks killer. That along with 5 1/2 tall baseboards in super bright white looks awesome. Wish I could post a pic here. Oh well,
Im sure it looks nice! Pay attention to the details so you only have to do it once
Was grout lines added or it wasn't needed
Yes it was grouted using Mapei Ultracolor plus
@@OBFTILE I appreciate it man doing my very 1st job tomorrow thanks for the proper guidance at TH-cam University
I love that tile. What type is it?
Henry Lopez its porcelain tile but it looks like hardwood, easy to maintain clean and no scratches
What is the name of gum
Can these be laid in a herringbone pattern?
Where are you located at..?????
Very nice video
What is the name of this tile?
I have no clue, the customer bought it at Lowes but its been so long I doubt they still carry it
It may be from Home Depot, the Montagna Rustic Bay by Marazzi. The one from Lowe's is longer and wider 8"x48," I believe.
u don’t back butter?
How do you know which direction to lay this type of tile?
Longest way of the room
Or if its a full house longest way of the main entrance or main living room
@@OBFTILE ok, thank you!
What about preparing the floor ? No primer nor leveling needed ?
Hey Tristan thanks for the comment, no primer just clean the slab really good from any texture and overspray paint then leveler of course, i always level the slabs specially when we lay wood look tile
@@OBFTILE thank you! For the quick response. Didn't mean to be rude. I was just asking as i am planning to do this myself but after watching a ton of videos , you are the one that makes it look the easier. But also noticed you didn't mention anything about the primer and leveling the floor before actually start laying it down.
@@OBFTILE i have to mention leveling the floor it's the part I'm the least confident about. 🥺🥴
@Mr B’s Life What about if I have painted concrete in my home? Do I have to get the paint cleaned off?
Wait so is there no grout?
Why not use leveling spacers to help prevent any lippage?
I think budget is one issue; other aspects might be the grout line and tile texture. They used 1/8, relatively thin grout line so lippage may not show that easily. Also the texture of this tile might allow for a higher tolerance for lippage.
Anybody can help me lay some tiles in Minnesota???
I noticed you left out tile leveling system parts. They are recommended for plank tiles, since they can warp.
Tiles wont warp after installed. I only use a leveling system if the tiles come bowed and need adjusting or tiles are huge (24x24, 24x48 or up)
Where are you guys located at
Hey there, We are in texas
Thank you for the intil
Can this be used on an entire first floor level of a home and maybe second. Is there a downside to doing the heating and cooling wise during the 4 seasons ?
was this a 6x24 tile or 6x36?
I’m your 1000 subscriber. Any discounts. Lol Cool videos. Following from tic toc.
Hey! Hahah you have the honor to be the 1000th subscriber
You showed ways not to lay the tile but what is the best way to lay it out.
I just had my house tiled with 6 x 24 tiles and the guy used the "brick" pattern which is lay the tile in a split in half pattern.
I've done tons of research after the fact and the general consensus is you layout the tile in 3rds and use a tile leveling system to help prevent lippage. My tile has lippage all over the place. I might re-tile.
Excellent vid. Do you recommend installing baseboards before laying this type of tile or placing baseboard on top of the tile after installing?
What’s the name of this tyles
Got a question can you lay wood look tile without joints. I.e no space in between
Dexter Norris no sir you need grout joints for movement, tiles will expand and contract
You also need a space along the wall so your floors never bubble up in case they decide to expand
@@OBFTILE are you in Texas I would love to hire you if thats possible
Did you grout the floor in the video please respond thank you 😊
2 questions what size trowel did you use?and what pattern did you follow ?look beautiful
looks like they centered the next row to the first row, in other words, all the tile on the second row started at the center of the first tile in the first row. Looks like that's the easiest way, and I've seen this pattern before and it looks good.
@@ezwalker there is no pattern....
@@raymondolguin7550 So you don't consider centering every other consecutive row a pattern? It might not be a picture, but a uniform change up on every other row still constitutes a pattern. Doesn't it?
@@ezwalker No. A pattern repeats itself.
Thanks for the video.
2 questions ... Why didn't you use spacers again ? And which row did you start with to start the inconsistent pattern ? Thanks 👍
I do tile. So the edge of the tile is not straight down. When you butt it up against the tile, it already leaves some space since the edge of the tile curves outward. The row can be started random. Like if there's a cut piece that was a leftover, then you can use that to start your row.
I think he said the tiles were uneven 🙉
Just pay the professionals- they are worth it!!!
Do I need to use an uncoupling membrane to lay down these tiles? Also, is it ok to lay down these tiles over vinyl?
SuperMegawoman you dont NEED it, but it will definitely help your tile life lasting a lot longer without cracks
Please dont lay over vinyl because your installation will only be as good as the vinyl under it and definitely dont use vinyl as an underlayment
Man what kind of wood tile is that?
Aren't you supposed to square up stuff first and snap some chalk lines, so you don't go blindly? you have to follow something don't you? and shouldn't you also have so sort of straight edge?lm just saying, plus after you do your layout, don't you square stuff up?.
I like your measure 4 tiles with spacers and then eyeball without after method. Spacers were tripping me out on my last floor years ago.
Don't be afraid to go slow on mortar set, back-battering
😊😊❤❤😊
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It wasn't clear to me how you were spacing the tiles without spacers. Could you clear that up for me? Thanks!
I lay 3-4 tiles on the floor using the spacer i want (1/8” for example) and use that same dimension over and over. If i get narrower or wider tiles it doesn’t matter as long as I distribute the spacing within that space. My line will always be parallel to my main control line even if the tiles are slightly bigger, smaller or even out of square
No uncoupling membrane! You’ll be back!
Play the video on half speed makes it easier to understand lol
So much faster to do without spacer or leveler
No spacers! Wow!
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