The most BRILLIANT CHEAT in RACING History? Toyota Team Europe Cheating Turbo Explained
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- Here's a pretty famous cheating story that you might have heard about. But even if you have we are going into the depths of the famous 1995 World Rally Championship Toyota turbo cheat.
This happened in 1995, and the cheat was discovered by the FIA in the Rally Catalunya race in Spain. The cheat was committed by Toyota Team Europe, which was then Toyota's racing division in the World Rally Championship. Toyota Team Europe was racing the newly introduced Celica ST205 (successor to the very succesfull st185 and st165)
What was the cheat? Well the cheat involved FIA mandated air restrictors that were installed onto the intake side of the turbos on WRC cars at this time (they are still in use today btw). FIA decided to introduce air restrictors to the WRC in order avoid the same accidents that shut down the coolest thing in rally history just a decade earlier. Yes, Group B, was shut down in 1986 pretty much because the cars were getting too fast and the crowds too crazy. The goal of the air restrictors was to tame down the cars and keep the crowds safe.
But it is with the air restrictor that Toyota Team Europe saw the opprunity to execute it's brilliant cheat. In an example of engineering and mechanical brilliance a system that would push the restrictor out 5mm was devised. This let 25% more air into the turbo and ultimately into the engine which resulted in a power output of 30 - 50 hp. The brilliant part of the cheat was that the restrictor was in the legal position when removed from the car and in the illegal position when installed back.
It was so well made that it managed to impress the people that are there to stop cheating and enforce the rules. Max Mosley who was then president of the FIA couldn't hide his enthusiasm for the cheat:
"“It’s the most ingenious thing I have seen in 30 years of motorsport.” said Mosley. He was also very impressed with the craftsmanship:
“Inside it was beautifully made. The springs inside the hose had been polished and machined so not to impede the air which passed through. To force the springs open without the special tool would require substantial force. It is the most sophisticated and ingenious device either I or the FIA’s technical experts have seen for a long-time. It was so well made that there was no gap apparent to suggest there was any means of opening it.”
However, Mosley did what any FIA president would do, in the interest of motorsport he punished Toyota Team Europe and stripped them of all of their 1995 season points and banned them from racing in 1996.
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My favorite "cheats" are the ones that are technically legal but abuse some loophole.
Exploit gray areas. It drives tech inspectors nuts!
Double diffuser
He was caught multiple times being the rules! They said 12 gallon tanks he said ok. But also installed a fuel line big enough to hold extra gallon!!
It's not abuse. It's just exploited.
**Smokey Yunick enters the chat**
"It's a '94 Celica. It doesn't need to cheat in order to win!" - Scotty
Too many won..make jealous the other
Before they fitted the restrictor, the wide body Celica could not match the smaller Impreza and Escort Cosworth on tight rallys and also had a wider track making handling difficult in gravel rallys.
The extra power brought them up to a similar performance level again
*Eurobeat intensifies*
You got a bit off topic there
Obviously they had to
Thats Toyota's "Variable Turbo Restrictor - intelligent" (VTR-i)
yohannes kurniawan they should release that as a joke
Japanese understand the power of names, so I don't know how Toyota could expect a group with the naughty-sounding name "TTE" to be rule-abiding. 😆
😂
But y does it sound cool???😂
Omg after all these years of wondering what vtri stood for I know thank u for this comment
Indy, Rally, drag, NASCAR, etc... ALL racing is a battle between engineers. The drivers are just testing their work.
This is true
i mean, most racing. There are series where each driver gets the same car.
Yeah like nascar where all the cars are nearly identical, with the exception of different gear ratios, and slightly different aero between the "ford" "chevy" and "toyota". If there is a few things your allowed to do with tuning beyond gear ratios, I'm not sure. But I'm sure it's nearly identical.
Matt Wells that’s what the rules state. But, where the rules end, ingenuity begins.
I'll add they definitely set up tire pressures, possibly mess with air to fuel ratios and timing to trade off between power and fuel economy, but I'd bet all the cars stay within a 5% margin of each other with whatever options they can adjust legally
Restrictors are still being used in Rallying today. You can actually make them in a alloy material that look solid, but it have microscopic holes in it, so it will suck air through its sides. Pretty clever 😉
Yup, they're still there today, probably an important reason for the heavily reduced number of driver and spectator accidents compared to 80s 😊
you cant make and fit them. the engine is sent to fia.... who fit restrictors and test the engine... then sent it back to you with special seals.....
@@EddywaKenya 😂😂😂😂😂where you got that story from😂😂😂 they are made by machine shops and fit onto the turbo. Only diameter is checked by a scrutineer and sealed. That's it....no1 sends engines to FIA lol...
@@heikogrund1211 there are definately racing series where you get the restrictors handed out by the fia and the have to be fitted under scruteneering by the fia before racestart. especially in blancpain it was like this. so you get restrictors, which you only have for like 30 Minutes before racestart. In BOP racing series you will perhaps even get different ones between quali and race. this toyota cheat will still be possible but most surely they will know by now what to look for.
@@xXloeffelsk8Xx nonsense. ...I am in Motorsport for over 40 years....
The only series which hands out something to the teams is Indicar! The pop off valves restricting the boost...
And that's not even FIA!
read FIA regulations....
My favorite was a nascar fuel line cheat. Rules did not specify the “size” of the fuel line. Best I recall, 5 extra gallons.
Nice. Here's another one: Nelson Piquet filling empty spaces in his F1 with water was also ingenious. He achieved the minimum weight for the pre-start up balance, and the water eventually fell off during the 1st race lap XD
@@marcelopa5459 lmaoo, nice one
Smokey Yunick!
I love that story. They removed the fuel tank at Daytona to inspect it and he got mad, fired up the car and left....without a fuel tank. He said later, "I could've driven the damn thing to Jacksonville with the fuel in the lines"
@@joshingtonbarthsworth631 that is the most nascar-y thing to ever do, except all he needed to do was throw a punch
Another one, I believe from Junior Johnson, was to inflate a basketball inside the gas tank when the car went through tech. The right amount of gas goes in, then the team pops the ball and removes it, and pops the extra fuel in.
Darrell Waltrip would also fill the chassis with a ton of lead shot, and cap it off with wax. Car heats up in the race, wax melts off, lead shot falls out, car is a couple hundred pounds lighter.
I'm from Spain where one of the popular forms of entertainment is standing in front of and running away from a bull, so it's no surprise people here stood in the middle of rally tracks lol
Never thought of it that way
Makes sense now though
First thing i thought of. If there is people stupid enough to run with bulls then its not weird that people did this
Rock_spideR
after studying español at my school in USofA...I’ll say:
“Locos Extremos”
Rock_spideR....er....Really?
Seen many of those bull runs you speak of and each time the bulls toss people. Most times they scramble up and run away.
When a rally car goes sideways into a bend, with the driver having every rag up, and the tail of the car comes around....surely folks know the difference?
@@StaticLowLife gili pol las
If you like ingenious cheats in motorsports go look up a man by the name of Smokey Yunick. The man practically wrote the book on cheating in motorsports.
He may have been a NASCAR man, but so many of his cheats were so extreme and ingenious that they influenced countless other motorsports and how their rulebooks were written for decades.
I love the time he used 11 foot coils of 2 inch tubing as fuel line to get nearly 20 gallons of extra fuel capacity.
He quite literally wrote the book too. In fact, he has several, and you can still get your hands on them. Good reading.
@@mikefelty2625 that's the most hilarious cheat i've heard hahaha what a madlad
@@Thorkell6969 ooo you should look into it. Cardboard & plastic roll cages, acid-washed panels you had to make sure nobody leant on, and the best was a car that was reduced in size by a 16th that is still debated to this day
@@blacktoothfox677 I listened to a podcast about it a few months ago from Donut Media, it was hilarious the dude is insane
“We’re not talking about virgin cheating we are talking about chad cheating”
You made a video about the Celica (or rather it's turbo) without saying it's name once I'm impressed 😂
Probably my favourite proven cheat, so clever to come up with that.
Also love the stories of Peugeot homologating the 205 T16 where they hadn't actually built 200 but when being inspected by the FIA told them the cars were in different locations, but then while travelling between locations the Peugeot guys suggested lunch. Meanwhile team members are moving the cars which have already been looked at to the second location.
I'm sure it's rumour, or at least exaggerated, but sounds plausible
I thought it was the Lancia 037, Jeremy made a piece on it on the Grand Tour
@@prithvirajbasu7422 This was my thinking. I was sure it was Lancia. That's not to say Peugeot didn't do it as well though.
Jean Todt was well known for using "any mean possible" to win and used cheating many times... But that story is well-known from being Lancia's: It's the Italian manager from back then who admitted it later on (I forgot his name).
Well, indeed it's a cheating according with the rules, but indeed it is a masterpiece of engeneering like Toyota always says, do and show! Very well explained, you're awesome brother
The LFA shows they know what they're doing!
LFA engine is built by Yamaha, fanboy...
@@ThaDutchDK1989 Yamaha handles the acoustic design of the engine, not the engine as a whole.
Shows the two-sidedness of power, here in the form of engineering expertise.
This is also why you shouldn't expect to be making sincere deals with a much more powerful entity. (They have no incentive to stick to the deal.)
@@AbrahamArthemius Also, as Yamaha is mentioned, I want to mention their tachometer cheat on one of their bikes, pretending the engine revs significantly higher than it actually does.
Ford focus WRC rear compressor tank. They built a tank and hid it behind the bumper of the US spec Ford focus bumper so when the extra air came in to the turbo it would build up in the tank and then was able to pump right back into the engine during the race
The roll cage in the Lancia 037 being made out of cardboard to save weight was a pretty funny cheat.
Wouldn't be surprised if soon that becomes legally required. 😒 (But only unbleached.)
"I'm not sure what to do with my hands."
-Ricky Bobby
It’s distracting
burntorangeak I thought the same
@@LucasSousaS205
My name is also Lucas 🔥
"If you're not first, you're last"
-Ricky Bobby's dad
I knew a team in Dirt Circle Track that had an Electric Supercharger hidden in the Intake in a 6 cylinder NA Class. It was said to give them 25 - 35hp and raised the Torque Line in the rev range. They were never discovered and went on to win every Heat and Feature Race for three+ conscecutive seasons + they got all the Track Records which still stand a decade later. How do I know? I was the guy that did the work.......
One of the many motorsport stories when it comes to cheating, also one of my personal favorite rally cars of all time, the Gt Four is just a AWD toyota madness. Just another awesome video, as always!
If you like the american rancing scene, Nascar and Indy, take a look at the life and history of Smokey Yunick, the greates cheater of all time, that guy was a unit, had a really wild life and was a genius when it comes to mechanics and racing. I didn't like the american styling of racing as much, but after learning about the guy I started to learn more about it and, oh boy, it's really something to check it out.
Ps: Sorry for my english, just a humble brazilian here. hahahaha
English is spot on man, zero issues. I know quite a bit about Smokey. What a character! He's getting a video one of these days for sure!
Yes smokey is legend status!!
Watch "project binky". If you are not already, GT-4 running gear in a mini. Awesome fabrication and comedy!!
@@d4a where can I find this video?
The best and most ingenious cheats are the ones we dont knkw about. Would love to see some of the ones that have flew under the radar that never came to light. But thank you for your content and pefect explanation sir.
this is why i put 2zzge in my toyota echo with propane :P
youre the first person who can explain the cheat simply and understandable, Good job!
your giving me ideas for my yaris, stop it, they are too good!
@@pililogan5769 sorry mate!
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Done. I explained it. Nitrous oxide is an atomosphere rich in extra oxygen. Put it in your Liquified Propane Tank and no one will be any of the wiser. Been there, Done that....
I once had a chance to acquire a new 2ZZ-GE for my Corolla but went with a new 3S-GTE instead. A lot more tricky to install and I had the bad luck of tasking a crook with doing it. Still standing in a garage right now, with a damaged unknown driveshaft, and I don't even dare running it because it will be quite corroded inside.
But it is fun to have 7900 RPM with turbo. (I was wise enough to get a gearbox with LSD diff.)
Cheating is pretty common in most if not all forms of motorsport. I've heard of Nascar stock cars with roll cages that act as auxiliary fuel tanks, drag race teams with sneaky valve grinds, drag racers putting nitromethane in their oil to add a tiny bit of extra
oxygen into the fuel/air charge in the combustion chamber, not to mention flat-out illegal heads, valvetrain modifications, carburetors, suspension modifications, etc. in drag racing. There were many aerodynamic systems in f1 that were quickly made illegal upon discovery by fia, etc, etc. I will admit that most of my knowledge on this topic is limited. Not to mention that even the best-informed person will only know about the cheats that were discovered at some point. Probably the majority of rule bending and breaking goes unpunished as it is likely never brought to light.
Fun fact: someone in nascar got around fuel tank size regulations by fitting an extra large fuel tank, putting a basket ball in it, and inflating it. After tech inspection, they deflated it and pulled it out to get an extra gallon/ couple liters of fuel if I remember correctly
Remember that time the Penske team ran that unusual "overhead valve" engine developed by Ilmor in great secrecy to win the Indy 500?
A cheat that I find somewhat funny : to inflate a basketball inside the fuel tank and then have NASCAR officials verify that it held exactly the legal amount of gas before a race. Once inspected, the pilot would deflate the basketball, remove it, and fill the extra volume it left behind with fuel.
This is the very first video by you I have ever watched and I subbed right away. I have to say, next to your apparent knowledge of the subject, you come off as a very humble and authentically friendly guy. That's become pretty rare in today's world and you
Would be interested in hearing more about the pop-off valve incident in CART back when Toyota first came in and couldn't compete with the other engine marques. They apparently found that the manifold designs/pop-off valve locations were creating lower pressure areas around the pop-off which allowed more boost than the rules allowed. I believe Toyota actually brought it to the attention of the organizing body rather than just massage the rules like everyone else. I only know about this because a team we were competing with in a production car series 10-12 years ago did the same thing on a VW. Ingenious really, but their ability to pass cars from a much faster class on the straightaway made people start to scrutinize them closely. If you're gonna cheat, do it _just_ enough to win - no more.
Yeah, the "TTE" cheat (naughty name, what do you expect? 😄) shows cheating is a complex thing. The engineering can be very clever and you still blow it through how you use it. (Power is nothing without control. 😉)
I understand the rant, we all love Group B.
when you think of it.. Lancia Delta looks suspicious now.
I mean That car was build by Italians XD
If you think too much about it you become paranoid :) happened to me. I trust no one now.
S4 or the HF?
Judging from past..they might cheat thru strategies instead and might not by mechanical..
@@miralemnermina142 hf..especially the 8v version era
@@AmirPomen there have been rumors that they ran NOS through roll cage and fire extinguishers but no one proved it
Youre so right about the crowds being bloody stupid, it's like running around on the motorway/freeway. I'm pretty sure that gets you arrested in most countries. So why ban the sport? just charge a few spectators with 'reckless endangerment' or something, and force racing teams to fit better safety cells and fire supression. One of the drivers was killed because his car (RS200 I think) was basically too weak and the engine was in the rear, designers made the cars as light as possible for obvious reasons, but this resulted in cars that were not very strong, I dunno what the state of roll cages was at the time, but clearly not enough for 400bhp+ cars. But group B could have been saved by better regulations (including crowd control and automatic fire extinguishers), if they had been introduced soon enough. But once people started dying, its easy to understand organizers and teams wanting to stop.
Man, this was an incredibly entertaining episode! Your timing for segments is perfect, ...as is your pronunciation of FIA's full name (I'm so jealous!). Never knew about Toyota cheating in 1995 with their Castrol Celica; I just remember the car showing up in Gran Turismo as a kid lol. Speaking of being a kid, I also liked your reference to Dick Dastardly haha
Yeah, I grew up with a lot of the Hanna Barbera stuff on Cartoon Network. Aaaah good times.... Learned most of my English on CN too lol.
Unfortunately, I just discovered this TH-cam channel. It is unfortunate because I have been missing some incredibly OUTSTANDING videos. I subscribed and already love the channel. Thank you for all you do here.
I love how there are more video coming out now that actually describes how the bypass worked and show a visual example instead of just talking about the cheating itself.
Hi there, i'm from portugal (you must know the story) and my father tells me that people used to just stand in the middle of the road for the photo ops in group B times, crazy stuff!
I would imagine it's impossible that "all cheats were caught" ... too much money, too many geniuses.
PS - another EXCELLENT video. I loved the beginning actually. :-D
you should do a series on things like this. cheats and exploited loopholes and even innovations that are outlawed the next season(so would if used now would be cheating). I especially like how when taken apart to be inspected "removed the evidence".
100% agree about the group B fans. I always wondered what they were thinking.
The st205 was and is still one of my favorite cars ever. Great video.
I like the engine a lot, but bought a new Corolla E11 as my first car and it stuck with me ever since. So I put the engine in the car. 😄
And had to suffer so much for working on a dream in this world.
I was kinda expecting a cheating rap :p
Great video as usual, explains this technique clearly!
If we are speaking about cheating in motorsoport maybe some episodes about Ford boost tank in Focus MK1 WRC, restriction plates and scaled body in NASCAR.
All good ones!
ford and subaru used the air tanks but it wasn't cheating but bending the rules. the rules state all air must go through the restrictor which it did but they stored the air that wasnt used at off throttle then used it at full throttle. this was also banned from following year.
I guess one gets jaded and sees everybody is cheating and then you could get an existential crisis but if you get paid to win in that rotten system, you have a tough choice to make.
Plus, if you happen to be the idealistic fool who can actually win against cheaters without cheating ... then politics can still foil your victory.
We should really learn to transcend the whole crooked ideology that glorifies competition.
Just seeing the EuroSport footage brings me back to the good old days.
Hey man! Love the vid! I have 2 questions about the iconic engines series though...
1. Would you be willing to organise those vids as a playlist on your channel?
2. Are you covering inline 4’s first then moving onto the next engine configuration or just doing them at random?
Again thanks for the vids man!
Sure I'll put up a playlist, there's only 5 vids at this point though. I have covered an inline six too. It''s demand based after the first 4 vids. The first 4 were based on a poll I put up. After that I'm doing what people demand most in the comments section.
@@d4a thanks chief, so does that mean the m10 next?
@@sammywelson7404 No, I'm no longer going by the poll after the 4th vid as I said. But next is something from BMW 😊
@@d4a oooh! My apologies! Thanks for clarifying!
It aint cheating unless you get caught.
Formula one, when they injected motor oil through the piston and into the combustion chamber, pretty sneaky
Which still makes me wonder what happened with Ferrari last year man.
I stopped watching F1 when it became too obviously all about business.
I mean, I am glad I saw that and stopped.
But it can be hard to see it everywhere and find so few likeminded.
Blissful ignorance is extremely popular.
In most desert off road races currently you now have to be 50 feet from the track because the fans got too crazy as well. My dad was one of the Crew Chief/ Navigators for the Nissan trucks in the early 90s. He said in Mexico they could hear people slapping the car with their hands as they raced by. Because of a recent race in California where a truck lost control and killed 8 people the 50 foot rule was implemented. People still get too close and still set up on the outside of corners...I can't understand it either.
*edited because i spelled chief wrong XD
A known story, in the interview Vladimir Reikhlin, who worked in TTE at that time. He said, that this restrictor was needed to compensate child's sicks, due to a lot of innovations in st205, compared to st185. TTE was the most innovative team in wrc of that time. Antilag system, active differentials, hydraulical clearense control, super strut suspension. All this systems need time to tune for synergetical effects. Toyota begins to lose to subaru, thus they wanted to compensate their loosing. He also said, that in team knew only few people about it. Looks like it TTE was punished for their successes. To bring intrigue back into champioships. Someone who knew just betrayed the team. After Ban period was ended, TTE won the WRC with the same 3s-gte engine in the corolla, with more compact and lightweight body.
Also interesting story was with charging capacitor of boosted air in the back bumper of Ford focus wrc.
Smoky Yunick a Florida car mechanic, left NASCAR pretty goggle eyed several times. It was a better race with Smoky and several others who occasionally use equipment "not discussed in the literature" to gain an edge. One year Smoky's car was getting much better milage than anybody else- it was obvious by the end if practice he would need only one pit stop where most would need two; he had run a radiator size fuel transfer hose from the gas tank to the front firewall, and no one had commented during tech inspection. that bigger hose made a two gallon gain in fuel capacity!
2003 Michelin’s F1 tires expanded size during race to produce more grip-illegally.
NASCAR had seen Smokey Yunicks 11 feet long and some inches thick fuel lines ( holding some extra 19 Liter fuel ) wich means he could drive the race car without a fuel tank another 2 laps. 1952 had also seen a wooden roll cage in NASCAR.- very funny
Gordon Murray’s f1 Brabham with adjustable ride height .
Fun Facts with Mrs Jeff highlights some really awesome cheats on the Home Built by Jeff channel.
I love hearing about them and as someone who drives a lot, I like these podcast style videos I can listen to and don't have to watch.
Great work.
I still think the st205 gt four is one of, if not the coolest looking group A rally car to exist. I pray to one day be able to import one over from japan or europe before their prices explode on the US market. As of right now they are a freaking steal for a homologation rally car special. You can find one in very good quality for like 15-20 grand. Lesser quality I've seen for like 11 grand. If I didn't have responsibilities and need a reliable daily driver, I'd sell my car in a heartbeat and buy one. I owned a 94 gt celica that had some bits and pieces from the st205 I hunted down on ebay back in the day like the big wing and strut bars.. Always dreamed about getting the gt four. I just dont have the balls to daily drive a 25 year old imported car, where I'd have to wait weeks for a replacement part if something breaks.
lol you going off track, *wait, no pun intended* is me every time I try to explain anything to my wife
I have a feeling it wasn't a whistleblower but the drag race event they had before the Catalunya event that sealed TTE's fate.
During the whole season, everybody knew that the Subarus were the 2nd fastest and TTE was fast as always since the early 90s. However, no one could prove anything as its hard to spot the cheat and on rally stages, its even harder to see which car is more powerful as all car does the same stuff over and over again abeit different times and techniques done by the driver. Fast forward to a few days before the Catalunya event.
It was considered as one of the final event of the calender and every team is having fun doing demo runs for fans and one of the event was drag racing these cars amongst teams. As mentioned, everyone knew that Subaru was actually doing damn well with the Imprezza. However, every team that were placed against the Celica got smashed hard and the gap wasn't just like a bumper or a car, it was bus lengths and even the Subarus got gapped pretty hard despite being lighter than the Celica. This triggered some warning to the FIA that it made no sense that even the super fast Imprezza was gapped so hard and in no way anywhere close to Toyota's dominance. Thus they opened a case against Toyota secretly. The FIA even allowed TTE to run the car for 2 stages to see their times and sure enough, the gaps were soo huge that it made the FIA puzzled. Thus they halted TTE, took their cars off the race and stripped it down and yet they found nothing. Somehow, they picked up the turbo and initially thought Toyota had simply cheated by placing a similar sized looking turbo but with a lighter blade as on the spec they registered with but upon checking, it wasn't the case. However upon shining a light into the turbo, the scrutiniers then realized the clamps and that got Toyota fucked.
Wow, so merely shining a light into it could reveal the cheat?
Kinda telling about the low standards of scrunity. Genius can be very relative.
Smart people understand that you cannot entrust the compliance with rules to the suspected cheaters. You have to do your own testing. (Also much cringe in the food safety sector here, among others.)
But also a lesson about the multiple aspects of cheating. Clever engineering, but the meta was stupid. First, you understand that the more severely you cheat, the more obvious it becomes, and secondly, then bragging about it with such drag racing shows the inherent self-defeating nature of crookedness.
@@Dowlphin That's the problem. Toyota was dominating and they got cocky and paid the ultimate price.
'93-95 was their golden age and most solid years of all. They were winning left, right and center and if they din't show hand their entire cards in their hands at the demo show, they wouldn't be bust at all but then again, that light did do the trick for the FIA to nab Toyota.
Toyota up to that point was really smart. The clamp that they used was supposed to be the same diameter when it was not warmed up to the naked eye and same by using normal eye to look at it, it looks like the same as the clamps the FIA gave to the teams to restrict power to Group A levels but when the turbos were torn apart and "light" was shown on it, then the FIA scrutineers realized that the clamp was just alike in color but the materials were totally different from what the clamps were made out of with the ones they've given out and that's how Toyota got fucked.
Still, they got back in '97 with the Corolla WRC which had a good showing but faded out again and recently came back with the Yaris WRC which is dominating.
Group b should just reopen but arrest anyone that dared to set foot on the road
A certain NASCAR team had a restrictor plate with a sliding plate inside that they could open and close before an after scrutineering.
Wonder if Subaru still would have won had this not happened. My guess is yes at least one of the years, but racing history is so fascinating.
Consider this as a spiritual insight to meditate on and find all its contained lessons:
*Winning against cheaters on the track can still make you lose in court.*
Back in the 80's "Sedate" Saab became an overnight sensation with the 900 Turbos and their involvement in SCCA Showroom Stock Racing. They were some of the first Turbos in Showroom Stock racing and their suspicious amount of "Straight Line talent" made them un-beateable on the racetrack until they got busted. They had changed the spring on the wastegate and were running their cars on overboost gaining substantial HP and flying down the straights. Eventually, Turbos were banned in several series to eliminate such easy cheating. These days, significant hp increase (Waste gate programming / Overboost) is just a few secret tweaks away in the engine management software.
Do you think the Toyota directors knew what TTE was doing?
This video would have been much better with out the 3 min rant about fans being on the track. Still a good video and I learned something new.
I've always loved the ST205 not only because it's beautiful body and the outstanding performances of the street version GT-Four but also because this ultra brilliant cheating. In comparison, the VW dieselgate was nothing😎
This just made me remember that I used to actually be looking for buying a used ST205, selling my Corolla E11 1.6. But I couldn't find anything convincing for a decent price and I don't like driving used cars, so I got the engine in it instead. ... I wish I could just have gotten a Honda S2000 instead, from the start. I remember I knew that would be my forever-car, but I couldn't justify it to small minds. - So the Corolla tuning turned into an endless nightmare.
It's sad because I wasn't into tuning out of passion for the craft, but because I knew I needed more horsepower. (Not always more, just a sweet spot.)
ONG! I subbed when I heard you say “ssshhh! There’s a fan waving ....” omg! You are right FANS not the car ruined it as they were NUTS!
Now make one of vw and there smog emissions cheat
RIP Group B...
Let's all have a moment of silence...
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To be honest with today's technology and superior safety equipment these days they should bring back Group B.
@@nealoverson You are gotdamn right sir...
@@nealoverson I smell 1500hp rally cars
From what i know about this is at the 1995 rally australia, in an outright drag race in the superstage the Toyota beat the Subaru by a good margin. Everyone knew the Subaru was slightly quicker, that is when they were first suspected there was an issue,i think the drivers knew they had been cheating, when the turbos were inspect at the next rally they found a piece of filter paper growing out of the alloy housing , which then lead to the complete strip down of the turbos. And like you said brilliant piece of enginèrring and the rest is history, they all cheated in one way or another in those days just that this is the most exposed.
It was kankkunen vs McRae
My favourite cheat was 1 I saw about a Nascar (Darrel Waltrip's) with nitrous oxide in it. The scrutineers pretty much knew that the car was running with nitrous for the qualifying lap but couldn't locate it or locate how it was getting into the intake. The nitrous canister was inside the roll cage through the inlet manifold pressure line that went to the dash to the gauge and where the nitrous was turned on/off.
there was a hillarious meme with text "My girlfriend: Promise you won't cheat. Me: *insert pic of this car*"
I absolutely lost my shit, it was so good
I like the Smokey Yunick cheat stories
Honestly every team in Motorsport has always looked for loop holes in rules. Teams are always going to try and “cheat” or find an edge over their opponent. Sorta reminds me of the active suspension on the F1 FW16 and also the Brawn GP, but won championship only to have their tech to be band.
This is the systemic flaw that so many people refuse to acknowledge so that the convenient ideology of fear can prevail. But to those who see more clearly it is absurd to expect honesty in a system of competing for rewards that allay existential fears.
*Followers want to see who is better than others. Leaders show how we can be better together.*
1st time seeing his video. This guy is funny. "Fan are waving. We gonna wave back". Gold
team Toyota Europe are the guys you cant trust at red lights when they say 'nah bro its stock as a rock'
I got an 3S-GTE in my Corolla E11 and I still have the "1.6" badges on the sides. 😄
It would never deceive anyone, though, because I'd be approaching red lights in first gear all the time.
Plus, in these times 1.6 could mean 200 HP stock. Or 1.6 Gigawatts or wattever.
If the velocity changes you could use the restrictors and flow the same... Correct??
The side rant about Group B was hilarious ahahahaa
Lancia had to build 500 cars for homolegation, but they only had made 250...so they told they were on two seperated parkingspaces, and after the officials had inspected and counted 250 , overnight they drove the cars to an other parkingspace, and showed them to the officials, and the counted again 250...
Ah Group B those were the days.
"Why would you stand in front of *an insane car driven at it's absolute limit*?" You answered your own questions :D
On a forced induction engine air = power... I doubt it increased airflow by 25% as that would be more like a 75hp boost... VERY noticeably faster.
You can't increase airflow 25% without increasing fuel by the same percentage - especially in a turbo engine.
It's still a genius idea - and even 10% more air = 30hp extra - which is a big advantage!
There is a rumor that the Delta S4 was run at +650hp for some courses....
Group b dont have power restrictions
So no mention of the Ford Focus rear bumper? Think saving air normally lost through the waste gate and storing it in a tank hidden in the enlarged rear bumpers?
RIP Henri and Sergio.
did they not get caught after a crash in which it was jammed open?
I thought this for years too and I did a lot of research to confirm it, but couldn't. FIA never clearly stated how they found out. Many people think that the first car this was discovered on was the car Juha flipped over and then managed to get back on track, but some sources claim it wasn't the first car where it was discovered. If you see the Eurosport footage in the video, that car is not damaged and some claim that's the first car to be inspected in search for this. A bunch of sources, although some are not very reliable ones, claim that it was someone from TTE that tipped the scrutineers off. Others say it was someone from another team. There's too many stories out there, and no real confirmed truth by the sources that matter so I left it kinda inconclusive in the video too.
@@d4a i heard the story from a guy i knew who was an engine builder for toyota rally team south africa at the time and he he said he knew where one of they turbos/restrictors was. the way he said it was like he had one.
You should try and get it from him. I think this could fool a lot of people again 🤣
It was a mechanic who got sacked. I owned one of the homologation cars for 11 years.
Keep the motorsport cheats series coming please!
when Flavio Briatore was Benetton's team boss, he removed the fuel filters from the fuel pumps for the pit stop. as a result, a higher delivery rate of 10-15% was achieved and they did not have to refuel for so long. That only came out when something went wrong while refueling and a fire broke out. the FIA took everything apart to see why this happened and whether it can happen again. Than it came to light with the filter
My first big crash was in a 92 Celica All-Trac. It was a sad day, and it still makes me sick thinking about it 14 years later...
I’m really digging this channel.
Smokey Yunick in NASCAR was a really good engineer.
I heard a story that fans used to challenge each other to touch the cars, when they went past.allegedly, a team found a grisly discovery on one of their cars in parc ferme...........a severed finger in the rear spoiler😳
No idea if this is true or not, but i read about it many years ago.
Quite a few fingers have been found
It was not a cheat but rather an unfair advantage that toyota have in the pursuit of speed. A demonstration of Brilliant Engineering.
i've heard a tale of that Australian soundguys who were just doing their job and setting up mikes and stuff for the televised stages went trought the sound's of the rally cars and Toyota's were sounding differend somehow and they went to FIA with their sound clips. dont know if true or not or even close but i mean somehow FIA got climpse of what Toyota was doing
I've actually heard that story too, but couldn't confirm it properly. Problem is the FIA officials never publicly said how they discovered this, and that basically renders most stories into speculation, which is kinda sad.
Nissan had a few tricks up there sleeves with the bathurst winning 80's turbo bluebird and skyline.the articles I read were in zoom magazine,quite interesting reading.they had brake bias adjustment incorporated in the pull type light switch(pull for lights twister adjustment,bigger intercoolers repacked in genuine nissan plastic wrap and boxes.theres a few other I'm forgetting,but you get what I mean
Use of chrome plated Delrin wheels lol... Adding octane booster pre race.
Adding laxitives to the beverage container in the pre race meeting area.
I don't know, chevy did it pretty bad with the acid dip Camaro trans am car. Love your videos though.
There are two types of Motorsport teams. Those who cheat, and those who get caught cheating.
True!
It was discovered when other teams got sound engineers to the stages, recorded the sound of the toyota at acceleration, and measured the octaves and pitch etc. And they measured the sound against the RPMs of an engine with the same bore x stroke, and concluded that the toyota was getting power delivered at a higher RPM then what is possible with a 34mm restrictor. Information passed to scrutineers, and the rest is history.
Prodrive (Subaru) measured the Celica (Team Cheating Toyota) speed and concluded there was no way it could be faster without cheating in a straight line
Motorsports is basically an arms race. Teams are constantly finding loopholes in the rule book to gain a slight competitive advantage. Engineers are expert problem solvers. They could literally build anything to solve any problem. As long as you throw enough money into it. An engineer will find a solution.
I read many years ago that the Honda engine of the legendary McLaren MP4/4 of 1988 had a cheat that made so invincible, do you know something about this ?
I had once a customer in my shop who actually worked at the Toyota wrc team at that time. I will not say everything he told me but what can be told is about the restrictor itself and the FIA. He said that the FIA in the end for sure knew it had to be something with the restrictor, as all other things were ruled out,. No matter how the searched ,when having the restrictor in their own hands.....they just did not find a thing wrong. ( as also this customer told me , because of the very strong springs AND once the hose clamp released , it was almost locked in place....) So in the end they were desparate, as there had to be something.... and took it to a hospital and made some X-rays from it... End of story.....
The Ford Focus boost tank under the rear bumper was also genius!
Do you know where the vid explaining that is?
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Just remember, if there is a new rule in place, the Japanese will find a way around it
And they can always say something like, "sorry bro, the translation is hard to understand" or something like that
Not many people know this, but Michael Jordan was actually caught cheating. It's was 1996, and the Monstars tried to jump up and grab Jordan, but he stretched his arms past what was thought to be humanly possible and scored at the last second causing the Toon Squad to take a victory. Michaels stretched cheating wasn't publicly admitted to this day. (Source: Space Jam 1996)
I remember when Harry Hogge gave Cole Trickle an edge by adding an extra thick oil pan, increased the fuel line's capacity, and shaved a 1/2" off the over all length of the car.. no one complained and NASCAR never even realized it. I just hope NASCAR doesn't decide to investigate and remove Cole's Daytona 500 victory ...
That is a pretty ingenious way of cheating.
I know people who cheated in snowmobile racing but still had less hp than the competition with stock snowmobiles. They didn't afford a liquid cooled sled the first year so they used a fan cooled 503cc rotax airplane motor in 440cc stock class.. everyone was impressed that he could keep up with the crappy fan cooled sled. He still had 15-20hp less than everyone else.
That conical restrictor would give you such a low end tune
Good job!! Toyota is genius!! Yeah, maybe they should've got extra points. :)