@wimmj6952 yeah, it's definitely hard to find one that's in between rust bucket and six figures. Hopefully I'll track down the right one. Been looking for years now. One that's pretty much rust free, but isn't perfect. Just a solid project. Might have to import one from Europe/Asia/Australia/South America. Probably Asia, but hopefully I can find one locally that's hiding in a garage.
@skylineXpert exactly! I've been looking at Caldina wagons that are 4wd/awd, & I think they're turbocharged as well. A Celica GT_Four is a pipe dream anymore, but I'm keeping an eye out for one at all times. Plus numerous other dream cars. Like a 76' Corolla SR5 Liftback, since my family had a new one that they bought off the lot & it was gorgeous. A really nice blue with black trim
@@DM-wp9vq took almost 4 years to find mine. Only way id sell it is if i could find a cs/rc. Managed to find one at 90k miles rust free unmodded. Possibly one of the last ones still floating around out there
When you clamp it down washer thingys compress and push up on another part opening an airflow path around the perimeter of the restrictor funnel between the outer casing and the restrictor
Very simply, there were washers in the intake restrictor that worked as a cantilever when they were squeezed. When you tightened the hose clamp, the washers pivoted on the housing and levered the restrictor forward, which allowed air to travel around the outside of the restrictor and in behind it. Bypassing the restrictor allowed the engines more air. More air means more power. It’s a difficult concept to explain, much more easily demonstrated. But essentially, when you tightened the intake hose clamp around the turbo, it pushed down on a washer that moved along a ramp which pivoted the restrictor forward.
TH-cam comment sections are full of people claiming to know how the cheat worked. I don't believe any of them, since I've yet to see anyone adequately explain it. So far it's nothing but a load of dilettantes thinking that they can look like experts if they just mention 'belleville washer" and "hose clamp".
I like how sportsmanlike they were when it came to the cheating. They did punish them for it of course but also complimented them on doing it so ridiculously well. It's kind of interesting to see that combination of respect and judgment.
Looking at the WRC, the political infighting, interests, regulation violations, and balance between rules and safety in F1 is terrible. In Japan, where discipline is very strict, Toyota's violation of WRC regulations is often discussed quite critically. However, in Europe, the home of WRC, there are many calm opinions. When it was reported that Toyota would return to the WRC with the Yaris, I remember that the reaction in Japan and Europe was completely different. Fortunately, Toyota has had a successful WRC season and is now highly regarded in all countries. I hope that the WRC will continue to spread as an exciting automobile race that will excite many fans.
I wish motorsports (both WRC and DTM) went back to requiring homologation models. That gave us the most epic cars of all time. Like the Celica GT-4, Impreza 555/WRX-STi, Delta Integrale, but also the BMW E30 M3 and the Mercedes 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II Epic roadcars with true motorsports heritage.
Toyota had a long absence in WRC since that fatal stop in Wales by Sainz. After 18 years they returned in 2017 and been WRC since 2018 to 2023. They've developed the GR Yaris from WRC for WRC and it's selling like hot cakes
I wanted more info on the turbo. Finding a new and alternate way to get more air while following other technical aspects and limitations is not cheating. Why didn't they outlaw 4wd in the early years? Was that not the same type of advantage?
Wrx width 67.1 inches wheelbase 99.2 inches Celica width 68.9 inches Wheelbase 99.9 inches I doubt the dimensions had that much of an effect. Was probably just a better chasis/suspension and AWD technology. Considering those are the areas that in the end made Group A cars faster than Group B cars.
Its crazy how very different the two cars feel. Not a perfect comparison but my stock st185 changes directions in a very different manner than any of my subarus, 05sti 06spec b, 96 leggy w v7 jdm sti running gear. To me and my driving style the subarus are much more grip and go and the st185 is much happier with the rear rotating. The st185 “feels” much more nimble but the subarus tend to grip just a bit harder and quicker out of corners. Just my experience. Hopefully adding an early evo to my fleet soon for even more compare/contrast
I usually drive a suburban. I rented a 2024 Camray . The difference was like night and day. Stops on a dime. It was the fastest car I ever drove. It had three ways to shift gears. Keep your elbows locked on your legs, hands on the wheel, and use paddles under the wheel. It fish tails on wet pavement. Don't try to figure out the computer/radio on the dashboard. When it goes past 110mph, it shimmy shakes. ...
It is made for short, skinny people. Getting out is like Alan Shepherd getting out of Freedom 7. I had to elbow my way up and out from inches above the pavement . Not for chubs
Toyota didn't cheat. Facts. If a European team had innovated in the same way, it would have been happily accepted. A foreign, Japanese team though? Bring out the ban hammer.
Nah that was 100% a cheat. A restrictor is supposed to restrict airflow to an exact amount, bypassing the restrictor in any way is definitely cheating.
Great video! Well presented, fantastic clips. Well earned sub. Cheating is a part of all sport and games. Not so that it's approved, but it will always take place due to human nature.
I hope you like feedback... This felt more like a Wikipedia article about Group A than a story about a motorsports controversy. Where's the passion? Feels like it's not your wheelhouse. Like, who are you and what do you have to do with rally? Why should I care what you have to say, regardless of how well researched and edited the video is? I clicked for a story, not a collection of random rally facts. I could just ask AI if I wanted that. If I was new to motorsport I would've found this video very informative, but still not telling an engaging story. Not sure what you're trying to do here, maybe try talking to some fanatics or people who were somehow involved with the topic and really dig in next time. OR instead of making a CELICA GT-FOUR CHEAT video, make a video focused on Group A Rally in general so people aren't mislead. The description tells a more cohesive and concise story about the Celica than the video, I would've rather just read that on social media or something. You've obviously got some talent for video making so keep it up, I'm just saying as a motorsports enthusiast what I like to see. Cheers!
Unusual take on "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes": If they thought that those reactionary technical limitations to even the battlefield were stupid, they shouldn't have engaged in the rallye sports business. Japanese caught cheating - Was there a self-chastizing in Japan for the disgrace?
When non Asian companies did something, they said it's innovative or something good for the future. But if it's Asian companies, CHEAT, UNFAIR, all the negativity shoots towards them.
the navigator drivr reading the diagram of deeeei race at deeei end of diiiz vid reminds wiid e boXinnn trainr at any cornr, joooooost spitting codes and coordinATs ....
And this is why FIA is a maffia and most people don't like motorsports. They pick and choose what manufacturers can and can't do, to penalize or help whatever manufacturer they choose. WRC and F1 are stacked with bullshit rules. I understand regulating for safety reasons (which FIA most of the times doesn't do) but everything else is just interfering with technological development and advancement. I love cars and I love races, but FIA organized motorsports are akin to comitee ruled USSR or China.
The Celica GT-FOUR has always been a dream car of mine. Every iteration of it, since I was 10 back in 93'.
Grab one while you can. Rust seems to have claimed many of them.
@wimmj6952 yeah, it's definitely hard to find one that's in between rust bucket and six figures. Hopefully I'll track down the right one. Been looking for years now. One that's pretty much rust free, but isn't perfect. Just a solid project. Might have to import one from Europe/Asia/Australia/South America. Probably Asia, but hopefully I can find one locally that's hiding in a garage.
@@DM-wp9vq If I can find one then Its usually JDM import
@skylineXpert exactly! I've been looking at Caldina wagons that are 4wd/awd, & I think they're turbocharged as well. A Celica GT_Four is a pipe dream anymore, but I'm keeping an eye out for one at all times. Plus numerous other dream cars. Like a 76' Corolla SR5 Liftback, since my family had a new one that they bought off the lot & it was gorgeous. A really nice blue with black trim
@@DM-wp9vq took almost 4 years to find mine. Only way id sell it is if i could find a cs/rc. Managed to find one at 90k miles rust free unmodded. Possibly one of the last ones still floating around out there
I do love a good cheating story but I would have liked more details on how the moving turbo inlet worked.
There’s plenty of technical videos on it on YT. People have a hard time explaining and understanding the cheat. Even the techs were amazed.
When you clamp it down washer thingys compress and push up on another part opening an airflow path around the perimeter of the restrictor funnel between the outer casing and the restrictor
Very simply, there were washers in the intake restrictor that worked as a cantilever when they were squeezed.
When you tightened the hose clamp, the washers pivoted on the housing and levered the restrictor forward, which allowed air to travel around the outside of the restrictor and in behind it. Bypassing the restrictor allowed the engines more air. More air means more power.
It’s a difficult concept to explain, much more easily demonstrated. But essentially, when you tightened the intake hose clamp around the turbo, it pushed down on a washer that moved along a ramp which pivoted the restrictor forward.
TH-cam comment sections are full of people claiming to know how the cheat worked. I don't believe any of them, since I've yet to see anyone adequately explain it. So far it's nothing but a load of dilettantes thinking that they can look like experts if they just mention 'belleville washer" and "hose clamp".
Brilliant explanation @@inz1
15 minute video with a quick 5 second blurb about the the actual tech of the turbo cheat.
Quite entertaining and insightful, nonetheless
And that's not even how the system works.
I like how sportsmanlike they were when it came to the cheating. They did punish them for it of course but also complimented them on doing it so ridiculously well. It's kind of interesting to see that combination of respect and judgment.
Nice video! Rally cars has the real anti-lag pops. These days street cars attempts to replicate but sound synthetic.
10:47 the rest of the footage looks surprisingly high quality and modern but this moment broke the fourth wall for me
Dam.. I don't remember Collin crashing in the helicopter.. Man I loved watching him race. R.I.P. bud. 🙏💪
Choosing to use Colin McRae Rally's OST as BGM to this video was really clever and fit perfectly.
I knew it but couldnt place it. Thnx 👍🏻
Man. I think Toyota deserves a medal for innovation 😂
Looking at the WRC, the political infighting, interests, regulation violations, and balance between rules and safety in F1 is terrible.
In Japan, where discipline is very strict, Toyota's violation of WRC regulations is often discussed quite critically.
However, in Europe, the home of WRC, there are many calm opinions.
When it was reported that Toyota would return to the WRC with the Yaris, I remember that the reaction in Japan and Europe was completely different.
Fortunately, Toyota has had a successful WRC season and is now highly regarded in all countries.
I hope that the WRC will continue to spread as an exciting automobile race that will excite many fans.
I wish motorsports (both WRC and DTM) went back to requiring homologation models.
That gave us the most epic cars of all time. Like the Celica GT-4, Impreza 555/WRX-STi, Delta Integrale, but also the BMW E30 M3 and the Mercedes 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II
Epic roadcars with true motorsports heritage.
Most FIA sanctioned racing still require homologation. One notable example is the GR Yaris, which is meant for Toyota's entry into WRC.
While it may've been cheating, that air restrictor bypass was a work of engineering genius!
Sega Rally Championship
I'm been 10 years Sega Champion!.. 🏆🏆
Loved my st205. Insanely over engineered. Few tweaks to reduce understeer.. huge fun in the snow. Not that we get much in the UK
Toyota had a long absence in WRC since that fatal stop in Wales by Sainz. After 18 years they returned in 2017 and been WRC since 2018 to 2023. They've developed the GR Yaris from WRC for WRC and it's selling like hot cakes
I wanted more info on the turbo. Finding a new and alternate way to get more air while following other technical aspects and limitations is not cheating. Why didn't they outlaw 4wd in the early years? Was that not the same type of advantage?
great video, can you make a detailed Galant VR4 and early Evo history?
Subaru also put anti lag on their turbos
Wrx width 67.1 inches wheelbase 99.2 inches
Celica width 68.9 inches
Wheelbase 99.9 inches
I doubt the dimensions had that much of an effect. Was probably just a better chasis/suspension and AWD technology. Considering those are the areas that in the end made Group A cars faster than Group B cars.
Its crazy how very different the two cars feel.
Not a perfect comparison but my stock st185 changes directions in a very different manner than any of my subarus, 05sti 06spec b, 96 leggy w v7 jdm sti running gear. To me and my driving style the subarus are much more grip and go and the st185 is much happier with the rear rotating. The st185 “feels” much more nimble but the subarus tend to grip just a bit harder and quicker out of corners.
Just my experience. Hopefully adding an early evo to my fleet soon for even more compare/contrast
@@guitarguymi yea but the overhangs were longer. Similar case with Peugeot 205 T16 and Audi Quattro
I usually drive a suburban. I rented a 2024 Camray . The difference was like night and day.
Stops on a dime. It was the fastest car I ever drove. It had three ways to shift gears.
Keep your elbows locked on your legs, hands on the wheel, and use paddles under the wheel. It fish tails on wet pavement. Don't try to figure out the computer/radio on the dashboard. When it goes past 110mph, it shimmy shakes. ...
It is made for short, skinny people. Getting out is like Alan Shepherd getting out of Freedom 7.
I had to elbow my way up and out from inches above the pavement . Not for chubs
Toyota didn't cheat. Facts. If a European team had innovated in the same way, it would have been happily accepted. A foreign, Japanese team though? Bring out the ban hammer.
too real
Nah that was 100% a cheat. A restrictor is supposed to restrict airflow to an exact amount, bypassing the restrictor in any way is definitely cheating.
They ban or make excuses happened in Bathurst Australia with the Nissan.
Wasn't Japanese team. It was German. TTE
@@timwoodruff7906 You beat me to it.
That Eddie Murphy commerical?! Hahaha no wayy
Awesome video!
With this quality, you'll sure get far! Keep it up!
I had a 91 Celica GTS it was the best handling car I think I've ever had
Didn't pronounce one car brand/model correctly.
Except Lancia
Best documentary 👏 🙌
Was looking to buy a GT 4 in 2005. Couldn't find a single one in decent nick!
Great video! Well presented, fantastic clips. Well earned sub.
Cheating is a part of all sport and games. Not so that it's approved, but it will always take place due to human nature.
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying! 😂
Mitsubishi and subaru was put in the wrc for rome time now, I hope we see a japanese rivalry again with toyota, subra and mitsubish in rally
So, according to the actual rules, was the bypass actually illegal?
I never complained about poor visibility in my Celica, those whiners.
You were probably looking out the windscreen not the side window! :0)
Came to watch a video on the Celica, ended up watching a video on Colin McRae and his rally career and death.
I hope you like feedback...
This felt more like a Wikipedia article about Group A than a story about a motorsports controversy. Where's the passion? Feels like it's not your wheelhouse. Like, who are you and what do you have to do with rally? Why should I care what you have to say, regardless of how well researched and edited the video is? I clicked for a story, not a collection of random rally facts. I could just ask AI if I wanted that. If I was new to motorsport I would've found this video very informative, but still not telling an engaging story. Not sure what you're trying to do here, maybe try talking to some fanatics or people who were somehow involved with the topic and really dig in next time. OR instead of making a CELICA GT-FOUR CHEAT video, make a video focused on Group A Rally in general so people aren't mislead.
The description tells a more cohesive and concise story about the Celica than the video, I would've rather just read that on social media or something.
You've obviously got some talent for video making so keep it up, I'm just saying as a motorsports enthusiast what I like to see. Cheers!
Incredible machine. In Australia, we pronounce it as ...See leak a
colin crash..... aged like milk
He had balls down to his knees and loads of natural talent
Oh What a feeling....
10:24 Colin McRae Rally 2.0 theme starts playing
I thought I recognised it!
Interesting to note that reckless McRae kept his McCrash reputation until his dying day, sadly taking others with him, including two children.
Only the celica St had a 1.8 l with 100hp , the Gt ,and GT-S had a 2.2 liter with 135hp . They were very competitive for their time .
Ah yes, famed automobile manufacturers "Lancha" and "Puhzho"
Unusual take on "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes": If they thought that those reactionary technical limitations to even the battlefield were stupid, they shouldn't have engaged in the rallye sports business.
Japanese caught cheating - Was there a self-chastizing in Japan for the disgrace?
Its always a helicopter, so many famous people meet their demise that way, i would say that colin should have left his son at home that day.
Great video!!!
I love this video❤
When non Asian companies did something, they said it's innovative or something good for the future. But if it's Asian companies, CHEAT, UNFAIR, all the negativity shoots towards them.
What you are calling stages are in fact rallys.
what is this kind of dirt track racing called?
The best Rallye car 🎉🎉🎉
Title is about the celica Gt-Four....more than half the video is about colin mcrae and subaru lol
Should rename this video. The Celica biography. Have only watched 5mins. Bet you I have to watch 14mins 30secs, before turbo mentioned.
30 seconds of the cheating story
Who played Sega rally championship on the Sega genesis? I use to drive that car.
Nobody. They played it on the sega saturn, because sega rally wasnt available on the genesis/md 😅
@@henrlima87 thanks for the correction.
@@sheldonthomas8773 i got you 👍
RIP Collin
the ending video should be samir.😂😂😂
Unicorn cars
Word! Every single one of those rally cars from the early 80's up until the late 90's are dream cars!
@@DM-wp9vq i had a slow ass 90 celica gt, but i was looking for 90-97 gts awd turbo but cant find n adulterated one in socal
@@daxolivares6939Look on Cars n Bids or Bring a Trailer.
You cant beat Toyota
At lest they didn’t install a full turbo kit in bumper like ford 😂
Go big or go home lol
The sound of engines, talking and music is just sound overload. Please cut the music for more enjoyment of a great video.
Why are you using 60FPS AI interpolated footage
Hmmm. Could bet the voice is also AI.
Totally unfair - labelling a nice innovative towards cheating is unjustified
Who said toyota is slow ?? 😅
the navigator drivr reading the diagram of deeeei race at deeei
end of diiiz vid reminds wiid e boXinnn trainr at any cornr, joooooost spitting
codes and coordinATs ....
And this is why FIA is a maffia and most people don't like motorsports. They pick and choose what manufacturers can and can't do, to penalize or help whatever manufacturer they choose. WRC and F1 are stacked with bullshit rules. I understand regulating for safety reasons (which FIA most of the times doesn't do) but everything else is just interfering with technological development and advancement. I love cars and I love races, but FIA organized motorsports are akin to comitee ruled USSR or China.
Toyota - still cheating in 2024
How can the Voice actor or AI, pronounce the names like Didier Auriol correct buy get Peugeot and Audi so wrong.
Sorry, had to cut short my watching as I was cringing so hard at the mispronunciation of so many brands.
WTF is a Larncha!!
Seems like an AI voice or something..
Funny that now Toyota is one of only three manufacturers in the WRC.
Sell eek a
Ye, and i've not heard Lancia pronounced that way too. 😄
@@markjones4457 Thank you. I thought it was just me!
pzzies
😊😊😊
Great car
The laptop is more powerful... 10:47