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I think people need to know (I'm sure the die hard fans already do) that in only his 2nd season of F1, Oscar has joined the top 3 best in the sport as having finished every racing lap of a season. That's a massive achievement, seeing as this year was the longest ever.
Oscar is brilliant and he manages to keep his head under pressure. The guy is absolutely a future champ, I'd even argue he's a future multiple world champion. He has that calmness to keep the fight up, just needs to work on his tyre wear and his qualifying. But that'll come with time and experience
Zak, Stella, and the entire McLaren team have done an amazing job and totally deserve the WCC. However, it’s really disappointing to hear him say they lost the WDC because of 'dirty driving.' That’s unfair. Why not admit that McLaren simply wasn’t ready to fight for the drivers' title this year? You have the best car overall this season but made too many strategic and driver errors. That’s it!
Rather disappointing to hear Brown take the cheap way out and imply the WDC was lost to another party's "dirty driving". It's easy to laud the team you beat (Ferrari) for their sportsmanship, but much harder to look in the mirror and admit you threw away the Norris WDC due to a combination of strategic and driver errors. McLaren as an organisation weren't ready to fight for a drivers' title this year. Candid self-reflection would have made Brown look a lot better here.
@@masrimus1607 that is simply not true than other champs have been dirty drivers two. Lewis was a hard racer like this with mclaren and mercedes when rosberg was close. After that he cruised to championships with a great engine advantage and great car and his great drivings skills. He did not have to race hard just like max did not have to in 2023. People just seem to forget don't they.
It’s funny that Zak and McLaren are so critical of Max for being aggressive and dirty yet they hold Senna so close to them, the man that literally crashed purposely into Prost and said he was going to do it. Max is aggressive and relentless because that is what a F1 champion needs to be, Lando and McLaren will continue to learn that lesson until he heeds it.
Senna ain’t their time so . I’m sure if senna was alive and driving for them they would also held him accountable. Which they do with lando . Max is not just aggressive he is dirty . And would do anything for the opponent to lose . Oh I meant dirty by PURPOSELY PUSHING their driver off
Max is nothing like Senna. What you mention, occurred because pole was moved to the dirty side of the track. Even then, when you rewatch the footage of both the Senna/Prost incidents, Prost turns in early both times. James Hunt covered all this years ago along with plenty of evidence. Max is a spoilt clown. Tons of talent but a clown none the less.
@@justlookingaround9834 Then that makes you someone that doesn't understand the mind games of racing, if you're in someones head you have an edge. If Zak stopped worrying about redbull & being the "good guy" and worrying about both drivers kept happy and acutally focused on Lando, he might of beat max this year or been much closer.
@@harrynoakes I know what the comment infers, it’s vacuous, it’s written by banal people, with nothing to say but need attention. No one’s know’s what Zak’s state of mind is. I imagine he just has the same opinion of most about RB and CH, a classless bunch.
@@justlookingaround9834 It's racing mate, have you ever raced yourself? I can't say I like or dislike horner but he talks shit because it get's in peoples heads, other teams have different ways of dealing with this, ferrari keep quite and do their talking on track, Toto used to do the same until he lost his marbles in 21'. Most race series are like this, it's only F1 that tries to act high and mighty, let the drama happen it makes the racing more exciting. If you believe any of these people actually hate each other then you're mistaken.
Zak and Stella dragging their feet, not prioritising Lando’s WDC, letting it slip away, just because they are afraid of upsetting Piastri and Webber was so frustrating to watch! McLaren isn’t dominating the grid anymore, you have to prioritise a driver for the WDC, you already lost the WDC in 2007 and 2024, now you want to make the same mistake in 2025?!?! Maddening! Stella, Webber and Piastri put Lando in the worst position possible, Stella kept “considering starting to help Lando”, without actually helping him, but it was enough to imply favouritism, and the media ran with this false narrative to pile on abuse. In reality, McLaren have used papaya rules to favour Oscar a whole lot more, 2 gifted wins and counting, but the media doesn’t use facts and stats anymore, just whatever fake storyline that generates more hate and engagement online. Utterly disgusting.
We need to compliment Oscar for finishing ALL races. For a young gun, this is exceptional and his contribution. Yes, he has room to improve but I think Lando needs too be more aggressive to cut Max if he wants to win WDC!
Unfortunately, I honestly don't think he can - too much time gaming and Max lives inside his head. Even Hamilton showed Lando his front wing last year and he literally moved over a metre. Lovely lovely guy, and fast. Just not a RACER
It’s understandable why Zak has to take this approach, he’s seen Max win 5 races this year without the fastest car; it makes sense that he tries to throw him under the bus.
@Redlingstein it’s part of F1 mate, sh*t slinging from other TPs is part of the game, if Max signed for McLaren Zak would defend him to the hills; it’s just protecting your own driver. Zak knows full well a driver in a lesser car has comprehensively out driven his two drivers, but he’s hardly going to say that is he.
Zak is one of the main reasons I can’t stand current McLaren at all. McLaren was the team I rooted for most of my life,leaded by Ron and Martin. It was THE racing team. Now it’s a team which leader can’t face the truth that it was HIS team which f’ uped Lando’s chances by playing “good guys” and letting Oscar grab precious championship points. And now this guy is saying they loose cause of dirty driving) absolutely pathetic. Ron would never be this low and delusional.
how did they win the championship? Red Bull keeping Sergio Perez is the answer - Both F3errari & Mclaren had 2 drivers within 50 points of each other, max was 285 points ahead of sergio, who averaged 7th place
Max generally adheres to the rules and has an in-depth understanding of them. His driving isn't dirty or unsportsmanlike; it's strategic use of the rules. On the other hand, Zak has a reputation for being a sore loser, often making excuses for his team's failures and others' successes.
“Strategic use of the rules” hahaha. The lengths you have to go to give a positive spin on dirty driving is comical. I dare you to try “strategic use of the rules” in a court of law someday and see how that works for you.
"your guy Senna" was sometimes borderline... And I loved it. You call it dirty now? Or you didn't watch your guy Senna? Don't castrate this sport. Max is box office!
Zak talking about dirty while having the flexi wings, the cutout cooling mod on the brake housing ducts and the mini drs is wiiiiild!😂. And who knows what else they did.
Saw every minute of this past season. I have followed F1 for the past 8 years. Zak is an outstanding CEO. He communicates, respects and treats both of his drivers equally. Same for Stella.
@Ch00x-kt2frHe is a cry baby. His driver choked and Max is the best in the field. Imagine insulting the guy who schooled your driver. Better watch out it only motivates Max more.
@@garrett3234it’s a hot take and I think Max is the most complete driver at the moment, but I think Gasley was probably the driver in the best form when the season ended. I don’t know if it’ll carry over to next year, but that dude out drove his car consistently since Brazil.
Mclaren failed to make a driver champion, next year isn't clear yet, maybe 2024 is their only chance and bottled it. If Lewis can beat Charles then there are 5 drivers contending for a championship in 2025. Mclaren team should have a clear strategy this time.
Tell you what. There's a lovely young lady that made an interesting stat. Every driver that was runner-up to Max in a championship ended up fifth or lower the year after. Lewis. 2021 second. 2022 sixth. Charles 2022 second 2023 fifth Checo. 2023 second 2024. Eight. Guess who's runner up to Max this year. 2025 is going to be interesting because I rate Oscar more than I do Lando. Oscar is more straightforward and doesn't resort to underhanded comments.
Maybe if lando had that killer instinct like max you (he) would be world champion. Congratulations on barely winning the constructors championship tho.
It’s better for yourself to blame another and put it on dirty driving than blaming yourself for fucking up. It wasn’t Max who bottled the starts, although he will point the voodoo from Max as the cause.
The truth is that if McLaren understood how to work as a team they would have won both championships! They spent too much time competing against each other and cost them valuable points which cost Norris the drivers championship and almost cost them the constructors championship. It’s insane that the driver second on the grid, who is on the same team as the driver on the pole, would jeopardize the race by fighting for the lead on the first turn of the first lap! If Paistri wanted to lead the race, he should have won pole, not try to take position from his teammate going into the first turn. I’m not saying they should have team rules to prevent Paistri from winning the race over Norris. What I’m saying is to set up the race together during the initial laps to build a gap with the other teams, then let the chips fall where they may as the race unfolds, and whichever driver has the good fortune and pace that race wins without dispute. If they had even tried to work as a team, Norris would be drivers championship. I know there are a lot of Paistri fans, but how many poles has Paistri won?
Lap 1 is often the best time to make a move. How many time has Lando kept pole after the first lap? 3? That's not good enough for someone who wants to win a WDC. Piastri is rightfully taking advantage of Norris' inability to get a good start and lead the race from there. Norris has only himself to blame for throwing away a load of points by not converting wins he should have easily been able to get from pole.
@@nfpnone8248TBH, I'm certain that YOU missed the point, Lando was/is too cautious and Oscar is a racer.... If Oscar had backed off as you suggested then HE would have been jumped.. honestly, 2024 and world is full of ❄️❄️
Naaah sorry mr. Brown, but no. Stepping your dirty game up to the competitor is not how you show character. If you want to show character, then do the opposite. Yes, you are just playing the game and there is nothing wrong with it, but don't try to sell this bullshit: they dirty so we dirty. You dirty cos you dirty. Everything else are just excuses. And btw, would love to see the so called friendly rivalry with Ferrari once the stakes are real, you are fighting entire season for WDC and have a few crashes on the track.
Zak… MCLAREN DIDNT WIN THE DRIVERS COS YOU…YES YOU MADE STRATEGY MISTAKES and Lando made driver mistakes!!! !!!! Stop with the fingerpointing and slandering of Max 👎🏻👎🏻Look at the dive bombs of Lando with locked wheels in Austria, talking abt dangerous, dirty driving…. The fact that you guys give him this platform for all this slander….will never listen to any of your podcasts again
The guy who has two #1 drivers doesnt win the driver championship, who coulda guessed. Lando fumbled a couple times, mcclaren fumbled a couple times, and they did lando no favors by pretending to have two #1 drivers early on. Nice accountability lmao.
Two things can be true at once… Max was dirty many times this year (as he has been in the past) but he was also clearly the best driver. Lando was not at that same level.
THANK YOU it's crazy the number of people on here doing mental gymnastics saying max is a clean driver... he's a world class driver, but he ain't a clean driver and probably never will be
I generally like these podcasts, they tend to give extra/ in-depth insights. But this one is disappointing, Zak Brown just blabbering on and on about how good he and his team are and shitting on others without any pushback. Pretty sad how these two guys just go along with anything Zak says. In the last race Lando won in the fastest car while being in the lead all the time. And yes you need a normal pitstop to bring that home. Something RB and Merc have been doing about 200 times in the past 15 years. If you want to talk about McLaren high performance, talk tinglier design team, they did a fantastic job. The operational side of the teamn that Zak can’t stop talking about here is the part of the team that cost them the WDC because of their low performance. And how incredibly disingenuous to talk about interteam politics. Zak Brown was the guy who could not stop talking about RB and everything that was going on at their team all season without Horner saying anythingabout McLaren. And let’s see how nice the McLaren and Ferrari are to each other when they actually race for a drivers championship. Or let’s see how nicely Oscar Piastriplays ball when he is in the fight with Lando.
I’m so pleased someone is able to speak out against MV and the attitude of Horner and the like. MV is a petulant child and a product of his bullying father.
I think everyone’s forgetting, under pressure without the fastest car, rather than desperate it’s dirty lazy driving from a guy that knows better (as one of the best drivers the sports seen) Max fan, Lewis fan Anyway, let’s see how it goes next year with a more even playing field (hope)
He never said Max was a dirty driver . He said a certain type of driver . If you think that was Max , why is that you think he`s talking about him ? Max drove to the rules , Right ? He just said Max was over zealous at some point , not dirty . A lot of drivers have been over zealous in the past , ie. Hamilton . Senna . Schumaker the list goes on . Perhaps over zealousness is a nessesary quality of a world champion .
Lando isn't ready just yet. He needed to learn the lessons from max this Yr (dirty wins championships). Maybe next Yr he'll learn to get his elbows out.
@@wokelefty spot on. If he‘d been paying attention during 2021, he could‘ve learned this already: You‘re so far behind in the WDC that it‘s pretty much impossible to wrap up? Well then, would be a shame if we dropped the nice guy act und just punted out the Championshipleader violently, gaining +26 points in the process. This has always been the way to a title if you‘ve dropped the ball on your driving (Hamilton in Imola 2021, Baku etc) and are behind as a result of it, or if your car has suddenly decided to moonwalk back towards the midfield (Max in 2024). You can‘t win in those scenarios by just driving cleanly.
I cant stand zak brown, he sounds like a karen, i used to have respect for the guy but its just disappointing to hear hom talk about verstappen, like eatch rivalries between like senna and prost, there was always aggressive and sometimes "dirty" driving in the heat of those battles too.
Zak is part of the reason McLaren survived....they were days away from going out of the game . His nous for bringing money in saved McLaren. He grew up being a fan of ayrton and McLaren and got to lead the team he supported back to the top.....must have been sweet....happy for him and the team
I'm giggling. Zac, brought money into the team? 🤔😅😂🤣 Who darn well owns the McLaren factory Stephanie? The Arabs own McLaren Stephanie In the meantime Zac pays Them Rent to use what was the jewel in McLaren's crown. Wasn't he the person (idiot) who said a month ago: we race for trophies, not money? Can you honestly see Toto losing Mercedes their factory?
What a PC hypocrite Zak ! Talking about healthy racing with Ferrari.. And dirty drivers... How dirty was it to loose against Max, not in the best car ?
My guy you edited your comment and still chose weird grammar and misspelling. There’s healthy racing and there’s hard racing, both win championships in the right moments. You’ll realize in time
@@masrimus1607 No, that's an OPINION. One you may feel very strongly about, but that doesn't make something a fact. It's a subjective matter, there is no definition or checklist for the word 'dirty' in this context. So argue for it all you want, that's ok, but fact and opinion are actually very clearly defined.
Verstappen fanboys already upset that Zak points out the obvious fact that Verstappen is a dirty driver, he's willing to break the rules to win... in life it is what it is, in sport it's unforgivable.
Zak's not the only one in F1 thinks Max is dirty. Stopped following redbull ever since their shitshow between Seb and Webber. Haven't bought a single can of redbull since 2021.
😂😂 but you think it’s okay that they force Piastri to play second fiddle and give his position… 😂 but it’s not okay when RBR does that with Webber 😂😂….. hypocrite much lol
Only jealous Max and RBR haters cry abt Max being dirty. Real F1 drivers know it’s hard racing when needed. RB won’t miss you lol SINCE 2021 😂😂😂😂 LH fan lol
Great to have a guy with “no accent” getting interviewed a lot. Nothing wrong with any accent just a nice break for my California ears. Seems just like a guy I might chat with at the track.
@@arulrana4048 Obviously. That’s why I put it in quotation marks. A couple of times ivd had people ask me if I’m from Michigan and I am. Only 150 miles from Canada and I guess that rubs off a little.
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You must get Max Verstappen and/or Christian Horner on the podcast…all these people are envious hypocrites driven by mediocrity
I think people need to know (I'm sure the die hard fans already do) that in only his 2nd season of F1, Oscar has joined the top 3 best in the sport as having finished every racing lap of a season.
That's a massive achievement, seeing as this year was the longest ever.
Oscar is fantastic!. Nice guy also.
Oscar is brilliant and he manages to keep his head under pressure. The guy is absolutely a future champ, I'd even argue he's a future multiple world champion. He has that calmness to keep the fight up, just needs to work on his tyre wear and his qualifying. But that'll come with time and experience
Piastri is a future multi-World Champion in the making.
Zak, Stella, and the entire McLaren team have done an amazing job and totally deserve the WCC. However, it’s really disappointing to hear him say they lost the WDC because of 'dirty driving.' That’s unfair. Why not admit that McLaren simply wasn’t ready to fight for the drivers' title this year? You have the best car overall this season but made too many strategic and driver errors. That’s it!
Absolutely true.
Two things can be true at once.
Best car at the second half of the season.
What rivalry dude?? Cope Brown. They threw away OVER 80 POINTS!
Next year dude
Zak really is incapable of self reflection huh
Rather disappointing to hear Brown take the cheap way out and imply the WDC was lost to another party's "dirty driving". It's easy to laud the team you beat (Ferrari) for their sportsmanship, but much harder to look in the mirror and admit you threw away the Norris WDC due to a combination of strategic and driver errors. McLaren as an organisation weren't ready to fight for a drivers' title this year. Candid self-reflection would have made Brown look a lot better here.
It was though
That’s what you took from that conversation
Max is a dirty driver. What's wrong calling spade a spade?
@@masrimus1607 that is simply not true than other champs have been dirty drivers two. Lewis was a hard racer like this with mclaren and mercedes when rosberg was close. After that he cruised to championships with a great engine advantage and great car and his great drivings skills. He did not have to race hard just like max did not have to in 2023. People just seem to forget don't they.
@@masrimus1607 dirty and smart.
It’s funny that Zak and McLaren are so critical of Max for being aggressive and dirty yet they hold Senna so close to them, the man that literally crashed purposely into Prost and said he was going to do it. Max is aggressive and relentless because that is what a F1 champion needs to be, Lando and McLaren will continue to learn that lesson until he heeds it.
Senna ain’t their time so . I’m sure if senna was alive and driving for them they would also held him accountable. Which they do with lando . Max is not just aggressive he is dirty . And would do anything for the opponent to lose . Oh I meant dirty by PURPOSELY PUSHING their driver off
Max is nothing like Senna. What you mention, occurred because pole was moved to the dirty side of the track. Even then, when you rewatch the footage of both the Senna/Prost incidents, Prost turns in early both times. James Hunt covered all this years ago along with plenty of evidence. Max is a spoilt clown. Tons of talent but a clown none the less.
@@Ddevil24 whatever you say, buddy. you know it all.
Senna and max in the same sentence doesn't make any sense...
@@sixonesix9429nailed it!
Max lives rent free in Zack’s head
A standard reply by someone with nothing worth saying.
@@justlookingaround9834 maybe if you lack the context or iq to understand why some say it
@@justlookingaround9834 Then that makes you someone that doesn't understand the mind games of racing, if you're in someones head you have an edge. If Zak stopped worrying about redbull & being the "good guy" and worrying about both drivers kept happy and acutally focused on Lando, he might of beat max this year or been much closer.
@@harrynoakes I know what the comment infers, it’s vacuous, it’s written by banal people, with nothing to say but need attention. No one’s know’s what Zak’s state of mind is. I imagine he just has the same opinion of most about RB and CH, a classless bunch.
@@justlookingaround9834 It's racing mate, have you ever raced yourself? I can't say I like or dislike horner but he talks shit because it get's in peoples heads, other teams have different ways of dealing with this, ferrari keep quite and do their talking on track, Toto used to do the same until he lost his marbles in 21'.
Most race series are like this, it's only F1 that tries to act high and mighty, let the drama happen it makes the racing more exciting.
If you believe any of these people actually hate each other then you're mistaken.
And just like that I’m hoping McLaren shits the bed next year. Sorry Oscar
Zak and Stella dragging their feet, not prioritising Lando’s WDC, letting it slip away, just because they are afraid of upsetting Piastri and Webber was so frustrating to watch!
McLaren isn’t dominating the grid anymore, you have to prioritise a driver for the WDC, you already lost the WDC in 2007 and 2024, now you want to make the same mistake in 2025?!?! Maddening!
Stella, Webber and Piastri put Lando in the worst position possible, Stella kept “considering starting to help Lando”, without actually helping him, but it was enough to imply favouritism, and the media ran with this false narrative to pile on abuse.
In reality, McLaren have used papaya rules to favour Oscar a whole lot more, 2 gifted wins and counting, but the media doesn’t use facts and stats anymore, just whatever fake storyline that generates more hate and engagement online.
Utterly disgusting.
Love that Zak finally gave us an explanation for why Lando pushed Max onto the grass at the Spanish GP!
We need to compliment Oscar for finishing ALL races. For a young gun, this is exceptional and his contribution. Yes, he has room to improve but I think Lando needs too be more aggressive to cut Max if he wants to win WDC!
Unfortunately, I honestly don't think he can - too much time gaming and Max lives inside his head. Even Hamilton showed Lando his front wing last year and he literally moved over a metre. Lovely lovely guy, and fast. Just not a RACER
It’s understandable why Zak has to take this approach, he’s seen Max win 5 races this year without the fastest car; it makes sense that he tries to throw him under the bus.
No this is not understandable at all. This is DIRTY TACTICS by Zak 🤮🤮
@Redlingstein it’s part of F1 mate, sh*t slinging from other TPs is part of the game, if Max signed for McLaren Zak would defend him to the hills; it’s just protecting your own driver. Zak knows full well a driver in a lesser car has comprehensively out driven his two drivers, but he’s hardly going to say that is he.
Zak is one of the main reasons I can’t stand current McLaren at all. McLaren was the team I rooted for most of my life,leaded by Ron and Martin.
It was THE racing team.
Now it’s a team which leader can’t face the truth that it was HIS team which f’ uped Lando’s chances by playing “good guys” and letting Oscar grab precious championship points. And now this guy is saying they loose cause of dirty driving) absolutely pathetic. Ron would never be this low and delusional.
I don’t like Zak, never have but my personal distain aside, the McLaren team did an amazing job. The men and woman behind the scenes are amazing!
Is there any reason why you don't like him ? 😂
You dont know why Raymond Grieger doesn't like Zak Brown? Where are you living man @@sghitza1
@@cohiba79100 🤣🤣🤣
how did they win the championship? Red Bull keeping Sergio Perez is the answer - Both F3errari & Mclaren had 2 drivers within 50 points of each other, max was 285 points ahead of sergio, who averaged 7th place
Max generally adheres to the rules and has an in-depth understanding of them. His driving isn't dirty or unsportsmanlike; it's strategic use of the rules. On the other hand, Zak has a reputation for being a sore loser, often making excuses for his team's failures and others' successes.
Jos, you should do your social media posting under your own name!
check out raoulh...this clown is an angry clown haha
@@raoulh.4440Funny how you need to attack Max off track because you can't beat him on it.
“Strategic use of the rules” hahaha. The lengths you have to go to give a positive spin on dirty driving is comical. I dare you to try “strategic use of the rules” in a court of law someday and see how that works for you.
"bending the rules" is just a fancy way of admitting to being a dishonest and dirty driver
"your guy Senna" was sometimes borderline... And I loved it. You call it dirty now? Or you didn't watch your guy Senna? Don't castrate this sport. Max is box office!
Senna was tough. But fair, gave what he got. Schumacher however…
Zak talking about dirty while having the flexi wings, the cutout cooling mod on the brake housing ducts and the mini drs is wiiiiild!😂. And who knows what else they did.
Saw every minute of this past season. I have followed F1 for the past 8 years. Zak is an outstanding CEO. He communicates, respects and treats both of his drivers equally. Same for Stella.
You can only expect cheap remarks like this from Zak, a true egotistical American.
ok but, you mean to tell me that the brits are not egotistical? that is ALL THEY ARE LOL
hey Zak Browneye isnt Senna "your guy"? well wasnt he a "dirty driver"?
The face of Mckaren
Stella job by Zak Brown's team👏👏👏
I like Zak. He speaks truth.
MV01 WDC with 3rd fastest car
See how max do this year
Zak brown on a £26mn annual salary but still obviously paying economy+ WiFi speed package.
i really don't like Zak. very little respect towards other drivers.
I disagree, he brings personality to the sport and it’s a personality preferred to someone like Christian Horner.
@Ch00x-kt2frHe is a cry baby. His driver choked and Max is the best in the field. Imagine insulting the guy who schooled your driver. Better watch out it only motivates Max more.
@@garrett3234it’s a hot take and I think Max is the most complete driver at the moment, but I think Gasley was probably the driver in the best form when the season ended. I don’t know if it’ll carry over to next year, but that dude out drove his car consistently since Brazil.
Mclaren failed to make a driver champion, next year isn't clear yet, maybe 2024 is their only chance and bottled it. If Lewis can beat Charles then there are 5 drivers contending for a championship in 2025. Mclaren team should have a clear strategy this time.
"Poison biscuits" So at the end of the day, it's all about the people you work with.
Tell you what. There's a lovely young lady that made an interesting stat. Every driver that was runner-up to Max in a championship ended up fifth or lower the year after.
Lewis. 2021 second. 2022 sixth.
Charles 2022 second 2023 fifth
Checo. 2023 second 2024. Eight.
Guess who's runner up to Max this year. 2025 is going to be interesting because I rate Oscar more than I do Lando. Oscar is more straightforward and doesn't resort to underhanded comments.
Maybe if lando had that killer instinct like max you (he) would be world champion. Congratulations on barely winning the constructors championship tho.
it was never gonna happen lol be real... max was fortunate to have such a huge buffer of pts before mclaren came into the equation
@@benfuller2890Max schooled the Mclaren team in the wet while Lando bottled it
If the Mclaren focused on one driver as RB always have, they would have won the WDC.
The emphasis on 2 second pit stop is an interesting perspective
Love how he subtly calls out Max at around 30:00 minutes.
It’s better for yourself to blame another and put it on dirty driving than blaming yourself for fucking up. It wasn’t Max who bottled the starts, although he will point the voodoo from Max as the cause.
A big NO to this podcast 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 Zak is purely trash talking Max 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
The truth is that if McLaren understood how to work as a team they would have won both championships! They spent too much time competing against each other and cost them valuable points which cost Norris the drivers championship and almost cost them the constructors championship.
It’s insane that the driver second on the grid, who is on the same team as the driver on the pole, would jeopardize the race by fighting for the lead on the first turn of the first lap! If Paistri wanted to lead the race, he should have won pole, not try to take position from his teammate going into the first turn.
I’m not saying they should have team rules to prevent Paistri from winning the race over Norris. What I’m saying is to set up the race together during the initial laps to build a gap with the other teams, then let the chips fall where they may as the race unfolds, and whichever driver has the good fortune and pace that race wins without dispute. If they had even tried to work as a team, Norris would be drivers championship.
I know there are a lot of Paistri fans, but how many poles has Paistri won?
Lap 1 is often the best time to make a move. How many time has Lando kept pole after the first lap? 3? That's not good enough for someone who wants to win a WDC. Piastri is rightfully taking advantage of Norris' inability to get a good start and lead the race from there. Norris has only himself to blame for throwing away a load of points by not converting wins he should have easily been able to get from pole.
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I’m not even going to respond, as you totally missed my point!
@@nfpnone8248TBH, I'm certain that YOU missed the point, Lando was/is too cautious and Oscar is a racer....
If Oscar had backed off as you suggested then HE would have been jumped.. honestly, 2024 and world is full of ❄️❄️
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You didn’t watch the same races I did this season! By the way, I didn’t suggest to back off, that’s an over simplification!
Naaah sorry mr. Brown, but no. Stepping your dirty game up to the competitor is not how you show character. If you want to show character, then do the opposite. Yes, you are just playing the game and there is nothing wrong with it, but don't try to sell this bullshit: they dirty so we dirty. You dirty cos you dirty. Everything else are just excuses. And btw, would love to see the so called friendly rivalry with Ferrari once the stakes are real, you are fighting entire season for WDC and have a few crashes on the track.
Zak would do anything to have Max in his car. Just like Toto.
What is a poisoned biscuit? I believe that it is a benefit that hides an expensive sacrifice which is only discovered later.
Zak… MCLAREN DIDNT WIN THE DRIVERS COS YOU…YES YOU MADE STRATEGY MISTAKES and Lando made driver mistakes!!! !!!! Stop with the fingerpointing and slandering of Max 👎🏻👎🏻Look at the dive bombs of Lando with locked wheels in Austria, talking abt dangerous, dirty driving….
The fact that you guys give him this platform for all this slander….will never listen to any of your podcasts again
Dirty driving lol
Your #1 driver buckles under pressure mate. Can't even convert pole positions into wins.
The guy who has two #1 drivers doesnt win the driver championship, who coulda guessed.
Lando fumbled a couple times, mcclaren fumbled a couple times, and they did lando no favors by pretending to have two #1 drivers early on. Nice accountability lmao.
Your the one that's dirty Zak!
how?
Because he complains... Just admid that the team.and Lando. Made faults instead of complaining... When they made no faults they would be wdc
Two things can be true at once… Max was dirty many times this year (as he has been in the past) but he was also clearly the best driver. Lando was not at that same level.
THANK YOU
it's crazy the number of people on here doing mental gymnastics saying max is a clean driver... he's a world class driver, but he ain't a clean driver and probably never will be
when you can drive like Max did in Brazil we all know who should be champion. Lando looked lost in that race
Bal zak😂
I generally like these podcasts, they tend to give extra/ in-depth insights. But this one is disappointing, Zak Brown just blabbering on and on about how good he and his team are and shitting on others without any pushback. Pretty sad how these two guys just go along with anything Zak says.
In the last race Lando won in the fastest car while being in the lead all the time. And yes you need a normal pitstop to bring that home. Something RB and Merc have been doing about 200 times in the past 15 years. If you want to talk about McLaren high performance, talk tinglier design team, they did a fantastic job. The operational side of the teamn that Zak can’t stop talking about here is the part of the team that cost them the WDC because of their low performance.
And how incredibly disingenuous to talk about interteam politics. Zak Brown was the guy who could not stop talking about RB and everything that was going on at their team all season without Horner saying anythingabout McLaren. And let’s see how nice the McLaren and Ferrari are to each other when they actually race for a drivers championship. Or let’s see how nicely Oscar Piastriplays ball when he is in the fight with Lando.
WELL SAID!!!
Loser mind set, blame someone, isn’t that what Zak just did? His own words!
This guy should do his job, which he does well, but just stfu.
Get Bernie on.
I’m so pleased someone is able to speak out against MV and the attitude of Horner and the like. MV is a petulant child and a product of his bullying father.
I think everyone’s forgetting, under pressure without the fastest car, rather than desperate it’s dirty lazy driving from a guy that knows better (as one of the best drivers the sports seen)
Max fan, Lewis fan
Anyway, let’s see how it goes next year with a more even playing field (hope)
Max will do whatever he needs to to win. Max though, has never intentionally punted someone off the track
Shocked F1? They were in a ditch and for 10 years trying to crawl out, what do you mean “shocked”? 😂
He never said Max was a dirty driver . He said a certain type of driver . If you think that was Max , why is that you think he`s talking about him ? Max drove to the rules , Right ? He just said Max was over zealous at some point , not dirty . A lot of drivers have been over zealous in the past , ie. Hamilton . Senna . Schumaker the list goes on . Perhaps over zealousness is a nessesary quality of a world champion .
Where he talks about Max?
You lost Lando his first WDC.
Lando and McLaren are to blame 50/50 for that
Lando isn't ready just yet. He needed to learn the lessons from max this Yr (dirty wins championships). Maybe next Yr he'll learn to get his elbows out.
@@wokelefty spot on. If he‘d been paying attention during 2021, he could‘ve learned this already:
You‘re so far behind in the WDC that it‘s pretty much impossible to wrap up? Well then, would be a shame if we dropped the nice guy act und just punted out the Championshipleader violently, gaining +26 points in the process.
This has always been the way to a title if you‘ve dropped the ball on your driving (Hamilton in Imola 2021, Baku etc) and are behind as a result of it, or if your car has suddenly decided to moonwalk back towards the midfield (Max in 2024).
You can‘t win in those scenarios by just driving cleanly.
@@wokeleftyDirty? Max outdrove the entire field with the 3rd best car lol
@@Lanse1984 world class driver and dirty driver... they don't have to be mutually exclusive
I cant stand zak brown, he sounds like a karen, i used to have respect for the guy but its just disappointing to hear hom talk about verstappen, like eatch rivalries between like senna and prost, there was always aggressive and sometimes "dirty" driving in the heat of those battles too.
McKaren
Just acting like kid. Sorry Max is the champion beacuse he is!
Zak is part of the reason McLaren survived....they were days away from going out of the game . His nous for bringing money in saved McLaren. He grew up being a fan of ayrton and McLaren and got to lead the team he supported back to the top.....must have been sweet....happy for him and the team
I'm giggling. Zac, brought money into the team? 🤔😅😂🤣
Who darn well owns the McLaren factory Stephanie?
The Arabs own McLaren Stephanie
In the meantime Zac pays Them Rent to use what was the jewel in McLaren's crown. Wasn't he the person (idiot) who said a month ago: we race for trophies, not money?
Can you honestly see Toto losing Mercedes their factory?
McLaren to UAE ???
U need Max to make famous
So much negativity in the comments... It's sad
McLaren’s forget the stole
What a PC hypocrite Zak ! Talking about healthy racing with Ferrari.. And dirty drivers... How dirty was it to loose against Max, not in the best car ?
My guy you edited your comment and still chose weird grammar and misspelling. There’s healthy racing and there’s hard racing, both win championships in the right moments. You’ll realize in time
Max drives dirty. It's FACT
@@masrimus1607 goes for the win....
He was talking about F1 politics and he made an analogy. But I think you're smart enough and I don't have to explain you that. 😂😂😂
@@masrimus1607 No, that's an OPINION. One you may feel very strongly about, but that doesn't make something a fact. It's a subjective matter, there is no definition or checklist for the word 'dirty' in this context. So argue for it all you want, that's ok, but fact and opinion are actually very clearly defined.
Verstappen fanboys already upset that Zak points out the obvious fact that Verstappen is a dirty driver, he's willing to break the rules to win... in life it is what it is, in sport it's unforgivable.
So dirty racing is anyone better than you? Lando doesn't have the stone to be champion.
Zak's not the only one in F1 thinks Max is dirty. Stopped following redbull ever since their shitshow between Seb and Webber. Haven't bought a single can of redbull since 2021.
boo hoo I will go grab two to make up for you
😂😂 but you think it’s okay that they force Piastri to play second fiddle and give his position… 😂 but it’s not okay when RBR does that with Webber 😂😂….. hypocrite much lol
Only jealous Max and RBR haters cry abt Max being dirty. Real F1 drivers know it’s hard racing when needed. RB won’t miss you lol SINCE 2021 😂😂😂😂 LH fan lol
This is so more gratifying than a single person championship, well done you all McClaren team👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Greetings from Texas😊
Tl;dr
Perez.
Oscar leaves Norris in the dust next year!
Really difficult not to like Zak's humble approach 👏🏻 Well done McLaren and huge congratulations to the entire team
Humble? 😂😂😂that is 1 word that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ZAK
McLaren need to race hard with Max if pushed wide keep racing and make up penalty if drivers swap just do it and fight for position at end of race...
Cope harder Zak, cope. 🤡
Great to have a guy with “no accent” getting interviewed a lot. Nothing wrong with any accent just a nice break for my California ears. Seems just like a guy I might chat with at the track.
do you realise amarican accent exists? and he is talking in that accent
@@arulrana4048 Obviously. That’s why I put it in quotation marks. A couple of times ivd had people ask me if I’m from Michigan and I am. Only 150 miles from Canada and I guess that rubs off a little.
Rivalidad? Jajaajajajjajjaja lo hizo mierda. Nunca tuvo oportunidad.
I really want to live watching you guys but the adverts, seriously. Yes you need to make money but it makes it so difficult to want me to continue