ZIIGAT Estrella, ISN H60, Dunu DaVinci, Simgot EM10, Thieaudio Hype 4 : Hybrid Wars

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  • @jayyaudio
    @jayyaudio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    1 hour!!! Wow thank you Tony for the in-depth comparison 🙏 Glad you’re digging the Estrella ✨

    • @tanjimahmed5694
      @tanjimahmed5694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah imma watch the entire thing 😂

    • @someoneusa
      @someoneusa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love it 🤩 congrats on the Estrella Jay 😎

    • @Oun104
      @Oun104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Outdone with this set jay
      Welldone buddy welldone indeed

  • @raphaelmeillat8527
    @raphaelmeillat8527 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best group comparison reviews I've ever seen! Congrats and thank you so much for your video!

  • @bettakl3430
    @bettakl3430 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just want to say THANK YOU for your effort and time in making this awesome video.

  • @deltazero6
    @deltazero6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent, thorough and honest. TonyT always keeps it 💯 with comparisons so his audience never waste time &/or money 💰. Bravo Maestro 👏 Bravo!

  • @angusbehunin2580
    @angusbehunin2580 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve been asking so many people to compare all the ziiggats especially the Estrella and doscinco, to the davinci and hype 4… finally you make the video that has the answers..! Great video.. wish this was made two weeks ago tho.. I couldn’t make a decision and blind bought the xenns mangird tea pro.. and I’m not at all sad about my decision.. I’m loving the tea pro… but it looks like I still might need to hear the Estrella and the davinci… can’t wait till you get your ears on the xenns tea pro to hear what you think about them.. keep up the good work..!

  • @VanDungLe2510
    @VanDungLe2510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Holy moly. Thank you for such amazing review and efforts Tony👍

  • @Pike3string
    @Pike3string 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    OMG, I'll get my popcorn ready. Christmas has come earlier! I've waited so long for this video.

  • @calvinyip364
    @calvinyip364 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thats alot of comparison.😮 Cant imagine the time you spent doing these. Really need alot of dedication. Wow.

  • @larrydunn4626
    @larrydunn4626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    forgot to mention... Tony, you provide the most comprehensive and usefull reviews of anyone on youtube... or not on youtube. The best, anywhere.

    • @7ArchEnemy7
      @7ArchEnemy7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I second this 100%

  • @iScorpio1971
    @iScorpio1971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Awesome! It's funny I got the H60, Davinci, and TSMR-X, and you aligned them next to each other ;) using ASOS+X on the H60. 47:30

  • @erikliterature8162
    @erikliterature8162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the video. Will wait with the Estrella until I've listened to Fatfreq Deuce a while (ordered but not shipped yet). Also, full retail price of ISN H60 is $349. Most people won't have access to the VIP coupons.

  • @abhik6503
    @abhik6503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Looking forward to your review for Penon Fan 3 and TSMR shock. Year of BCD wars it is.

    • @bernardtan427
      @bernardtan427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tony, please include the BGVP DMA!

    • @abhik6503
      @abhik6503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bernardtan427 I second this

    • @ShipwreckCoves
      @ShipwreckCoves 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Fan 3 is smooth, rich, clear and cohesive, with added soundstage with the BC switch on. Sounds beautiful with every combination of amp/dac cables/tips I've tried.

  • @ineras3
    @ineras3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    H60 is incredible, just had really bad ergonomics on the stock cable. Still waiting for Estrella, hoping it can match or surpass the H60, with a bit more sub bass and treble extension.

  • @Icecold_Art
    @Icecold_Art 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello Tony.
    I have a question, inrecently bought the Penon Fan 3 and Hype 4. Sold the hype today and sent fan away during the return period.
    I loved Penon mids, the lush organic vocals, but I felt the Fan 3 was a bit too polite when compared to lively and dynamic Hype 4.
    I love the Hype bass amount and quality, but I much more preffer mids and highs of Penon.
    I wanted to get the 10th anniversary, but it i out of stock and production… and was still available not too long ago.
    What would be your recommendation up to
    500 or so dollars?
    I heard great things and recommendations for:
    Isn Neo 5, H60, EST50 and sound Rhyme dte500.
    I listen mostly to 70-80 stuff, like Dore strait and rock ballads, and the new stuff is mostly vocals oriented.
    What would be your advice? Is the Penon Quattro/ISN H60 a sweet spot?
    Or is ot better to spend a little more for the est drivers?
    P.S hype 4. Was vented better than fan3, i had a little of pressure buildup in the left ear especially. Would like to avoid that as well.

  • @opulentotter8594
    @opulentotter8594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the epic comparison Tony. One of the best in the game, simple as 🙏

  • @MagSlimeto
    @MagSlimeto หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi akros, amazing video as always. I'm in between the Hype 4 and the Estrella for my next IEM. Wich one in your opinion has the wider soundstage? 🙌

  • @JFKaufmann
    @JFKaufmann 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic comparison as usual! I have the DaVinci thanks to your recommendation and love it. Am I correct to assume that the Estrella would be a nice additional flavor with extra sparkle on top?

  • @viktor1845
    @viktor1845 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Usually I pass by your reviews because its too long for me but here I watched all. What do you think of Dusk? I had both hype 4 and dusk. Dusk is a monster in details for me. Tunning I preffer slightly less treble. I am sensitive to treble. I think estrella is too not my choice.
    Maybe davinci. Maybe cadenza for neutralish tunning. Because thick basshead sound I have already with ikko oh10

  • @Rezzzn0r
    @Rezzzn0r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi man, great video, as always. I wonder if any of these iems can beat OH700VB when it comes to bass quality and staging? I love bass coming from OH700VB and i wonder what's upgrade from it.

  • @gsp6963
    @gsp6963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi which one among these are best allrounder iems for listening all kinds of genres?

  • @filipescalco3590
    @filipescalco3590 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg .. 1 hour! .. I started yesterday and I’m finishing right now drinking my coffee.. very very very nice and detail your review .. a lot of comparisons.. Estrella is using really nice BAs .. and the bass comparison between Estrella and Davinci surprises me a little (didn’t expect the bass line so similar) .. I was wondering how it compares with the dusk with DSP .. tried the dusk a few weeks ago and enjoyed the base and the sound (in DSP mode) but I use 3.5 most of the time ..

  • @amanieux
    @amanieux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    please elaborate on Estrella vs hype4 differences, the stunt you used in this comparison ( both good but different, is not helping ;) ) thanks

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@amanieux ok let me try to explain, the Estrella has a little more resolution than the Hype4.
      On the other hand the Hype has a tonality and timbre that seen a little more organic and realistic to my ears.
      Bass wise there's no definitive winner.....they trade blows in terms of weight, with the Hype having perhaps a little more subbass at times while Estrella has the edge on terms of slam......but they are about equal.
      Mids again the similarities are high , but to my ears the Estrella edges slightly the Hype ,because by having that extra treble energy it allows my library in terms of female vocals to have just a little more detail.
      Please keep in mind this is all with my music library and with my ears.....so it could invert itself in your ears, but either way the differences are not big ....very subtle.

  • @gdot_flock
    @gdot_flock 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    tony, i'm trying to decide on which to purchase, either the penon dome or h60, how would u compare..?

  • @PrettyTiedUp5
    @PrettyTiedUp5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Estrella or EST50? Awesome review! And Thank you!

  • @NunoCoelho_carrots99
    @NunoCoelho_carrots99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a couple of months ago an used Leisurely Audio L8S after you highly praised it on your review and mentioned it was pretty close to the Aur Audio Neon Pro in terms of performance, and I am amazed by it, definitely the best IEM I have ever heard…do you think the Estrella is an upgrade to the L8S or a sidegrade?

  • @AndrewLeeMalaysia
    @AndrewLeeMalaysia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, Tony. I'm sold on the Estrella. I noticed you've swapped the stock IEM cable with XINHS cable. Wasn't clear why you picked the XINHS cable over others. BTW, which XINHS type did you use? Thanks in advance!

  • @StarBuccaneers168
    @StarBuccaneers168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Tony. Incredible collection and review.

  • @igorzovko5854
    @igorzovko5854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review maestro. DeVinci with Xduoo t-26 /Topping d30 pro is the end game combo.

    • @FMMF-t3o
      @FMMF-t3o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's also my favorite IEM.

  • @habibymuhammad1706
    @habibymuhammad1706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of all of them, which one is suitable for EDM music?

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@habibymuhammad1706 SR9, QTX , TSMR X shine with EDM

  • @Gilliboy82
    @Gilliboy82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Akros, can you recommend me a perfect cable match for the isn h60? I actually use the stock cable which everyone hates but I kinda like it. It brings a crystal clear ambient atmosphere, the highs are accentuated but it makes instruments very realistic. Better than xinhs and ivipq cables which I have and costs a lot more. Do you have sort have end game cable for it but not too crazy expensive? 3d stage improvement and perfect timbre/layering/separation is a plus.

  • @jondandavekinanahan7488
    @jondandavekinanahan7488 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the estrella compare vs the aful performer 8,they are close in price in my region

  • @jakubaugustyn9817
    @jakubaugustyn9817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks!
    Pls maybe you check qoa adonis new?

  • @TomatePasFraiche
    @TomatePasFraiche 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Perfectly timed!

  • @sagars861
    @sagars861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    currently using kefine klanner suggest me upgrade at least price from this

  • @juggy2112
    @juggy2112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think you could eq the estrella and be more satisfied overall than the dioscinco? Is there a way to neutralize the tuning of these sets?

  • @ShipwreckCoves
    @ShipwreckCoves 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So fun, great review. Is it a coincidence that the ISN H60 makes Akros voice sound WAY better? Try it and tell me I'm wrong. FYI, the Penon black medium silicon tips and Space Cable really clean up the sound of the H60. I'd like to see a graph of it with different cables and different tips, as there are notable changes that happen on that front.

  • @marksr12
    @marksr12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The review I have been waiting for! Thank you Akros. Now which of the top 3????

  • @larrydunn4626
    @larrydunn4626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    nice vid. It seems in this case the four Ziigaat's sound like their graphs indicates they would sound. Notice where the Estrella's pinna peaks... 4.5k. that is the cause of what you refer to as your "nit pick", that upper mid energy that you would handle by turning the volume "slightly down" on the occasional song.
    Interesting that the relaxed pinna trend of late isn't the Estrella... Jay has taken his own path, and based on his own vids, he was looking to avoid the boringness of he new META. As for my personal taste, the new META is where it's at. Naturalness > Fun so long as dynamics are not sacrificed... and that fine balance is where ear canal and tip choice matter so much.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would doscinco be considered new meta? I know it’s gotta be close because hype 4 technically is.

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for you comment and explanation

    • @larrydunn4626
      @larrydunn4626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Hijynx87 the new meta pinna gain is about 3-4db below the 2019 Harman. Da Vinci is almost exactly new META, so is the Dusk using DSP cable. Hype 4 is a couple of db above the new meta. some people think the new meta lacks detail or sparkle in the upper mids, or is boring. I don't, so I like the graphing of the Da Vinci so I will try the Da Vinci soon. In the meantime I am eq'ing my Canon 2 to the new Meta in the pinna area. what the new meta lacks in sparkle and detail, it makes up for with a natural timbre, the ability to crank the volume without getting irritating, and femaile voices especially sound full and correct.

  • @shahkhan110
    @shahkhan110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Plz do review INAWAKEN dawn ms....

  • @JosephFlemming
    @JosephFlemming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the H60 but want a somewhat similar IEM with punchier subbass. Thinking about the Estrella or SR9 (BEFORE watching this video lol)

    • @JosephFlemming
      @JosephFlemming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Some may ask why I want more bass than the H60 has…. Well for many people, a premium sound system has a very good subwoofer with subbass you cannot get on cheaper systems. So if I’m paying a lot more than cheaper IEMs I’d prefer a more impressive subbass than the H60 provides. In some songs I know there’s a good subbass line but you can barely hear it while on other cheaper bassier earbuds, the bass is more noticeable. So I’m looking for a similarly priced model with equally awesome mids vocals and treble but with that extra non-bleeding bass punch.

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JosephFlemming fatfreq deuce, might as well change it up. Otherwise the Doscinco is very satisfying with either divinus widebore or feaulle h570 tips.

  • @JosephFlemming
    @JosephFlemming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting… the H60’s stock cable has been “shredded” on the Head-fi forums as being garbage… maybe earlier sets came with worse cables but the one I got was that nice copper cable which I think sounds really nice.

    • @JosephFlemming
      @JosephFlemming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Listening notes: 25:20 I was considering the QTX but the Estrella seems to be better… good to know!

    • @larrydunn4626
      @larrydunn4626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      notice how much trouble he had trying to put the H60 back in its place in the lineup... that cable seems stiff with a lot of memory.

    • @roguegorilla8981
      @roguegorilla8981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got the isn H60 when it was just released and the cable is absolutely crap and is the same one he is using. I immediately swapped it.

    • @JosephFlemming
      @JosephFlemming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@larrydunn4626 I have the same cable as he has in the video and it’s not stiff at all. Compared to tbe Nicehck black cat cable… now THAT is a stiff cable!!

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly I did not dislike the copper cable of the H60.
      I have however tried the ASOS on it and must admit it does somehow open ever so slightly the sound a touch more.
      Not a huge difference, but it's there.....comes down to does the extra money make sense.

  • @brunis_m
    @brunis_m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it make sense to get an Estrella if I own an SA6 MkII? Mostly listen to electronic, hip hop and rock

  • @uglyfate1326
    @uglyfate1326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How Estrella compares to Davinci in terms of soundstage. I heard that because of shy treble in DaVinci the soundstage also close to average?

  • @dwightavery993
    @dwightavery993 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, what can you recommended for excellent bass for basshead and with nice others frequency's? Tnks!

    • @Sforzabull
      @Sforzabull หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't want to speak for Tony, but I would recommend the Dynaquattro to someone looking for a nice basshead set.

  • @bigbuckoramma
    @bigbuckoramma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tony, i know this is going to sound a little silly, but thank you for being the only other reviewer, aside from Paul Wasabi, to say "Estralla" properly.
    I find it grating, like people say "Tore-Till-Uh", instead of "Tor-Tee-Ya". Inexcusable in this day and age.

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bigbuckoramma I agree with you ....this is why I always make an effort to say a person or place or whatever name properly.....it shows above all respect.

  • @Josephine-r7b
    @Josephine-r7b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you heard of the FIIO JadeAudio KA1? I used it with Deezer, Spotify & Tidal & still hadn't been able to get the LED setting to change even at max settings. 😞😭

  • @jesuscostantino2925
    @jesuscostantino2925 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent. Been waiting for you to cover these!

  • @Musicophile-p5l
    @Musicophile-p5l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for such a detailed comparison.

  • @WifiXD-rd7co
    @WifiXD-rd7co 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I received my hype 4 yesterday :)

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      enjoy! It could very well be an endgame set for many.

    • @TheHandsomeAudiophile
      @TheHandsomeAudiophile หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Hijynx87was for me

  • @h1a8
    @h1a8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you give a quick comparison of the Pilgrim in technical ability (resolution, 3D imaging, soundstage) against the Estrella and the Oracle mk3?

  • @SlumptyDumpty
    @SlumptyDumpty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the Estrella reminiscent of the Xenns Top?

  • @Moooyt
    @Moooyt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm about to buy the TANCHJIM ORIGIN for $250 / £190. How does the best of those compare to Origin? Should I hold off from buying Origin and go for something else around the $300 price range? Any help would be grateful thanks!

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's always hard to compare a single DD to a multiple driver IEM.
      A single DD such as the Origin is excellent.....it has to reach the perfect balance between all frequencies In order to have a high level of performance.
      Of the IEM is the comparison above, the DaVinci, H60, EM10 are probably the closest in overall sound intentions to the Origin.
      I think you can go wrong with anyone of those three, although the DaVinci os the one that has the price closest to the Origin

    • @Moooyt
      @Moooyt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akros9333 Thank you for the detailed response. I've decided to take a u-turn for now and stick to my KZ AS16 Pro X (I can cope with these for now, they've served me well for the last few months). Years ago it was easy to make a choice, now the earphones market is overflooded there's waaay too much to choose from it's insane. Whenever I lean towards an earphone based on TH-cam reviews, there's always something new around the corner :D
      Another reason I'm holding back is I'm waiting on Fiio's new BTR DAC/Amp which I have a feeling is coming out very soon. When that time comes I'll end up picking an IEM then, and not the Origin. Even if another 50 IEM's flood the market :d
      Thank you again for responding it helped me a lot to decide :)

  • @Gustav0Silva
    @Gustav0Silva 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you

  • @deparoo
    @deparoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! been waiting on this.

  • @lmcteo
    @lmcteo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In terms of soundstage, does the estrella compete well vs. hype 4?

    • @TheHandsomeAudiophile
      @TheHandsomeAudiophile หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't speak on Estrella but hype 4 spundstage is above average. Good depth and height too, sounds " big " and is midrange focus and a slightly forward vocals. It's amazing.

  • @roguegorilla8981
    @roguegorilla8981 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cable for the H60 immediately got tossed to the side and im using an IVIPQ cable. That stock cable is awful.

  • @Hijynx87
    @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got a hype 4 and a doscinco so I guess Estrella is a pass. It sure looks pretty though, I just have too many iems lol.

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are very well served .... Estrella will be more of a Got to have it" choice.

  • @MettameowChannel
    @MettameowChannel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi I love your review but pls check your audio settings. I'm listening through my IEM and your voice only comes out from the right channel which is a bit of an annoyance 😅

  • @TOM7952
    @TOM7952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Akros

  • @helifan2346
    @helifan2346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man
    Now I don’t know where to put my money
    Oracle 3 or Estrella?
    I already have the Davinci, the performer 5-8 and cinco3

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't heard the Oracle but I don't think it does enough to justify the extra money !

    • @helifan2346
      @helifan2346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@akros9333 right.
      This ziigaat seems like a killer IEM
      The cinco 3 is a great IEM, can not imagine that this new version would fall short
      Thanks Tony
      I appreciate your content and effort
      Salud!

  • @KiwiNickG
    @KiwiNickG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Estrella with tape mod takes it to next level

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same could probably be said about doscinco, but I haven't tried it.

    • @ManicMindTrick
      @ManicMindTrick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you like a slightly more v shaped sound like I do, stock tuning will be best.

  • @larsjunge
    @larsjunge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which one of the ziigaats for jazz? I have the candenza 4 and love them.

    • @akros9333
      @akros9333  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Cincotres is probably the best option for jazz

    • @larrydunn4626
      @larrydunn4626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with Tony's reply. Jazz can include a lot of horns, and horns can be irritating on IEMs with a lot of energy in the 3k-5k region.... like Estrella.

  • @EricJorgensen1
    @EricJorgensen1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love this

  • @7ArchEnemy7
    @7ArchEnemy7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I had any doubts, with this video you are officially my favorite iem reviewer. Period.
    You picked all the right iems for the comparisons. The format was spot on. This is so so helpful for anyone like me trying to decide on a sub $400 iem. The only other iem I wished was part of this list would have been the 61T but that's only because I have that shortlisted as one of the potential buys. How would you rate the Juzear amongst these? I have the TSMR X. So don't want another very similar set. What would you suggest amongst the Estrella, H60, DaVinci and Hype 4 considering I already have the TSMR X?

  • @MrBlackJava
    @MrBlackJava 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wery wery nice review...

  • @masterazlan6999
    @masterazlan6999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Estrella or old skol Variations?..Peace!

    • @Hijynx87
      @Hijynx87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vari with a midbass eq to remove that scoop

    • @masterazlan6999
      @masterazlan6999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Hijynx87
      Did I asked u??..Peace!

  • @CervezasObsonMex
    @CervezasObsonMex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lets c