Thank you so much man! I tried something slightly different in this episode. I plan to continue with the "Who was" series, perhaps every other week or so.
Hey dumb mythology wasn't greek but Pelasgian.By Herodote Greeks addopted the Gods from Pelasgians. Odysseus was Ion-as(mean ours) and his name mean"the traveler who watching things always by two options) Gift by Albanian language,the only Pelasgian language which is still a live.
@@nikolavasilic2972 hey sclavo or greco Learn: Herodote book II p.50-53 "Greeks don't know today i am writines this, that what is the origin of each God. If they have lived forever and what form did they have. The names of the saints that Egyptians don't know, Greeks addopted them from Pelasgians." Great Greek Encyklopedia Athens 1932 Vol.19 p.873 "Therefore,the ancestors of present Albanians,the Pelasgians,lived during the prehistoric periods in the larger part of the world then known,developing very important civilization,building works of outstanding value." ....now this we learn in schools!! 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Your videos are some of the best short Classical documentaries on TH-cam, fantastically researched and visually captivating. Even your tone and accent are on mark lol. Please everyone SHARE WanaxTV's Videos! The more support he gets, the more assured we are of his being able to bring us more great docco's into the future. Ps.. Please keep at it WanaxTV, you're bound to grow in success and I really look forward to seeing videos on many Mediterranean civilisations into the future and longer ones too
A Mycenaean royal tholos tomb was excavated at Tzannata near Poros in Kephalonia in 1991. It would seem that this Mycenaean centre of power is the best candidate for being Odysseus’ Ithaka.
Really, given the significance of Sparta and it's king, you should include it on your map. The boy goes there for help. In the story, Ithaca was an island to the west of kephalonia, recent theories suggest it was what is now the Paliki peninsula which at the time was cut off by a channel in the narrowing. I am only at 2:07 but I will watch the whole video. There is a good study on this, a book and youtube channel called "Odysseus unbound", any who enjoy Odysseus should check that out. I have subscribed to your channel. I see you include Sparta later in the video.
@@WanaxTV I m from the region of eani.. the ancient kingdom of elimia Macedonia close to the borders with Thessaly... First wife of Philip the second Phila and Antigonus Monopthalmus was from here... Many horsemen of Alexander the Great came from here and the taxis of elimiote of around 1.500 men serve Alexander's army... The region still today have many horses, People still bread them... And elimia region has artifacts from around 14 century BC proving the continuous connection between Macedonia and South Greece... 😊😊
@@LOKgr That's interesting! I haven't researched much about Elimia, although I went through its geography when I was designing the map. Hopefully I'll make some content on it as well as the other surrounding regions, it's very interesting. Thanks brother.
Very good work. Thank You. At first I thought that this would be a fictious story, but I am pleased as it has substance, and is further leading me to believe that Troy was real. I am beginning to believe that The Iliad is a song of victory. Like The Star Spangled Banner.
It's particular how in the odissey we can read all the elements of the bronze age and the mycenaean civilization collapse, not only there, in all the nostoi: the kings returning from the war, find a unstable political situation, many are overthrown, others are forced to flee, Ulysses can't come back home, and when he return "late, and badly, on a foreign vessel, lost the fleet, lost the companions" he find his palace occupied by the nobles who wanna take his place, and even marry his wife (the new oligarchy that push to kick out the old kings?... Local revolts? In several mycenaean palace there are tracks of fire, not only from outside attacks but also from inside, to the granaries for example, the peoples? And the mass grave who someone tell is been found in mycenae? Is that true? With 30 skeletons or so? It fit vaguely with the agamennon and his companions end), in Homer world seems that the power come from marring the queen too, agamennon and menelaus take the kingdom marring the daughters of the king of Sparta, same the nobles with odisseus tried to, I m not saying Odysseus, agamennon, Achilles, really existed, absolutely, the sagas are a mix of historical and fantastical facts, but the context, the environment, made of palaces, mutual diplomatic relations between the kings (its clear by the complex of roads and by the majestity of the palace that whoever lived in mycenae was the most powerful of the kings...), that the dimension, the environment, is historical. Surely Homer put in it some element of his age, he wasn't an archeologist, but a story teller, but these legends are the echoes of a lost memory I guess. If you can soon or later talk about the nearby Italian and Adriatic cultures that interacted with the achaeans, like the thapsos culture in Sicily, a mycenaean outpost maybe, or the terramare culture in Italy, that on the amber road did commerce the amber to the mycenaean too from the Adriatic sea and the balkans. All these cultures coming back from the Neolithic Italy heritage, extinguished in the same years of the mycenaean ones, like if a death plague arrived and exterminated them all, depopulating the villages, and their regions, the terramare culture area in the po River shores will reach this amount of populations only 1000 years later in Roman times...
That is hard to read, man. ;) Homer got a lot right, but a lot wrong. It's doubtful that he got any geopolitical details right as whet we know, he mostly got incorrect, Phrygia and Lydia for one. neither existed at the time of the Trojan war but were big players in Homer's time. He also got some small details wrong like the number of spokes on a chariot, but then redeems himself with descriptions of armor and donning it. In all, homer is a good resource until you have better, but I would never ever take him as gospel. he was more of an anachronist than a proper historian.
What do you make of the hypothesis that the Ithaca of Odysseus is a different place from the island of Ithaca because it doesn't match the description in Homer's Odyssey?
... and at Home was waiting Persephone against 108 Boys for merriage. And Polyphon has ONE EYE eating his Friends - Polyphon ist a musik label with one hole in the scellack record - Single need 45 rpm - long record 78 rpm.
@@ellinmakedon1216 Βρέ τόσος χαζός είσαι..!? Τις τέχνες τα αφήσανε στις αδελφές γι'αυτό σας είπαν και Gra eci...ενώ εκείνοι ασχολήθηκαν με την τέχνη του πολέμου.Εκεί όπου υπάρχει μεγαλύτερη αντίσταση,υπάρχει και η μεγαλύτερη καταστροφή...δέν στο έμαθε ο μπαμπάς σού?...Ά άσε,εκεί που είσαι εσύ μόνο αδελφές έχει ξέχασα..🤣
Great video, Greetings from Greece 💯🇬🇷💕
Thanks brother. Appreciate it! ❤🇬🇷
Great episode my friend, love the animations, especially at 5:25. it's like a cinematic movie! Looking forward to more!
Thank you so much man! I tried something slightly different in this episode. I plan to continue with the "Who was" series, perhaps every other week or so.
@@WanaxTV sweet, looking forward to it!
Hey dumb mythology wasn't greek but Pelasgian.By Herodote Greeks addopted the Gods from Pelasgians.
Odysseus was Ion-as(mean ours) and his name mean"the traveler who watching things always by two options)
Gift by Albanian language,the only Pelasgian language which is still a live.
Is that what they teach you in school?
@@nikolavasilic2972 hey sclavo or greco
Learn:
Herodote book II p.50-53
"Greeks don't know today i am writines this,
that what is the origin of each God.
If they have lived forever and what form did they have.
The names of the saints that Egyptians don't know,
Greeks addopted them from Pelasgians."
Great Greek Encyklopedia
Athens 1932 Vol.19 p.873
"Therefore,the ancestors of present Albanians,the Pelasgians,lived during the prehistoric periods in the larger part of the world then known,developing very important civilization,building works of outstanding value."
....now this we learn in schools!!
🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Your videos are some of the best short Classical documentaries on TH-cam, fantastically researched and visually captivating. Even your tone and accent are on mark lol.
Please everyone SHARE WanaxTV's Videos! The more support he gets, the more assured we are of his being able to bring us more great docco's into the future.
Ps.. Please keep at it WanaxTV, you're bound to grow in success and I really look forward to seeing videos on many Mediterranean civilisations into the future and longer ones too
Thank you very much DM! I really appreciate feedback and kind words! No doubt channel will continue to grow! 💯
A Mycenaean royal tholos tomb was excavated at Tzannata near Poros in Kephalonia in 1991.
It would seem that this Mycenaean centre of power is the best candidate for being Odysseus’ Ithaka.
Awesome video. Love from Greece
Thank you, much appreciated!
Just found your channel. Great content keep it up
Thank you, much appreciated! New video comes out every Saturday!
Really, given the significance of Sparta and it's king, you should include it on your map. The boy goes there for help. In the story, Ithaca was an island to the west of kephalonia, recent theories suggest it was what is now the Paliki peninsula which at the time was cut off by a channel in the narrowing. I am only at 2:07 but I will watch the whole video. There is a good study on this, a book and youtube channel called "Odysseus unbound", any who enjoy Odysseus should check that out. I have subscribed to your channel. I see you include Sparta later in the video.
Great video, I’ve always found it confusing how he supposedly only ruled over the tiny island of Ithaca (modern island with that name)
Hello from Greece!!
Great content...!!
Keep on going!!!
Thank you brother, I really appreciate it! 💯🇬🇷
@@WanaxTV I m from the region of eani.. the ancient kingdom of elimia Macedonia close to the borders with Thessaly...
First wife of Philip the second Phila and Antigonus Monopthalmus was from here...
Many horsemen of Alexander the Great came from here and the taxis of elimiote of around 1.500 men serve Alexander's army...
The region still today have many horses, People still bread them...
And elimia region has artifacts from around 14 century BC proving the continuous connection between Macedonia and South Greece...
😊😊
@@LOKgr That's interesting! I haven't researched much about Elimia, although I went through its geography when I was designing the map.
Hopefully I'll make some content on it as well as the other surrounding regions, it's very interesting.
Thanks brother.
What a great history teacher/ Professor if you are already not one, and really amazing fun ways to learn importance
Odysseus is the Only Man Achilles Considered an Equal....I’m a amateur history buff,Great Channel👏👏👍👍
Very good work. Thank You. At first I thought that this would be a fictious story, but I am pleased as it has substance, and is further leading me to believe that Troy was real. I am beginning to believe that The Iliad is a song of victory. Like The Star Spangled Banner.
An anthem that takes 8-14 hours to sing? god I would hate to be a spectator at their sporting events. lol
Excellent.... just discovered your mini documentaries. The use of the map is very visual and says more than volumes of text. Again...Excellent
It's particular how in the odissey we can read all the elements of the bronze age and the mycenaean civilization collapse, not only there, in all the nostoi: the kings returning from the war, find a unstable political situation, many are overthrown, others are forced to flee, Ulysses can't come back home, and when he return "late, and badly, on a foreign vessel, lost the fleet, lost the companions" he find his palace occupied by the nobles who wanna take his place, and even marry his wife (the new oligarchy that push to kick out the old kings?... Local revolts? In several mycenaean palace there are tracks of fire, not only from outside attacks but also from inside, to the granaries for example, the peoples? And the mass grave who someone tell is been found in mycenae? Is that true? With 30 skeletons or so? It fit vaguely with the agamennon and his companions end), in Homer world seems that the power come from marring the queen too, agamennon and menelaus take the kingdom marring the daughters of the king of Sparta, same the nobles with odisseus tried to, I m not saying Odysseus, agamennon, Achilles, really existed, absolutely, the sagas are a mix of historical and fantastical facts, but the context, the environment, made of palaces, mutual diplomatic relations between the kings (its clear by the complex of roads and by the majestity of the palace that whoever lived in mycenae was the most powerful of the kings...), that the dimension, the environment, is historical. Surely Homer put in it some element of his age, he wasn't an archeologist, but a story teller, but these legends are the echoes of a lost memory I guess. If you can soon or later talk about the nearby Italian and Adriatic cultures that interacted with the achaeans, like the thapsos culture in Sicily, a mycenaean outpost maybe, or the terramare culture in Italy, that on the amber road did commerce the amber to the mycenaean too from the Adriatic sea and the balkans. All these cultures coming back from the Neolithic Italy heritage, extinguished in the same years of the mycenaean ones, like if a death plague arrived and exterminated them all, depopulating the villages, and their regions, the terramare culture area in the po River shores will reach this amount of populations only 1000 years later in Roman times...
That is hard to read, man. ;)
Homer got a lot right, but a lot wrong. It's doubtful that he got any geopolitical details right as whet we know, he mostly got incorrect, Phrygia and Lydia for one. neither existed at the time of the Trojan war but were big players in Homer's time. He also got some small details wrong like the number of spokes on a chariot, but then redeems himself with descriptions of armor and donning it. In all, homer is a good resource until you have better, but I would never ever take him as gospel. he was more of an anachronist than a proper historian.
Fabulous Chronicle🔥Bravo🏅Thank you🌎 for sharing 🌅
I thought Odysseus wasn't real but boy was I wrong, thanks for explaining :)
Solid
Thanks
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8.28 Ίcaros , with the stress on the first syllable.
What do you make of the hypothesis that the Ithaca of Odysseus is a different place from the island of Ithaca because it doesn't match the description in Homer's Odyssey?
Odessyeus a Greek hero
... and at Home was waiting Persephone against 108 Boys for merriage. And Polyphon has ONE EYE eating his Friends - Polyphon ist a musik label with one hole in the scellack record - Single need 45 rpm - long record 78 rpm.
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What the hell did you just write??
I would love to move to Ithaka or Cephallonia. America is turning into the middle east.
AC Odyssey
to everybody who dont know pelasgians are greek but they spoke a non greek language
They were not ''Greek'', but they did contribute to the Helladic culture
@chrisernst3043 Pelasgians were Greeks. They spoke one of many Greek dialects.
@@LinduineStop the ahistorical nonsense. The Pelasgians were Greeks.
Good info....narroration is horrible....bad oratory
This is the “sea people”
Your voice is to low can barely hear you over the music and sound effects
That grating sabre on sabre sound is far too annoying!!!
He was Pelasgian king and his name mean "that(men) who see things by two options" -"the smart one".
Pelasgian-Dardanian-Yllirian
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⚠️Nationalist Albanian alert⚠️
Ρε (α)γκουρι τα είπαμε οι Ιλλυριοί δεν άφησαν τίποτα γιατί ήταν αμόρφωτοι σαν εσένα. Νομάδες ήταν αγράμματοι ,😂😂😂😂
@@ellinmakedon1216
Βρέ τόσος χαζός είσαι..!?
Τις τέχνες τα αφήσανε στις αδελφές γι'αυτό σας είπαν και Gra eci...ενώ εκείνοι ασχολήθηκαν με την τέχνη του πολέμου.Εκεί όπου υπάρχει μεγαλύτερη αντίσταση,υπάρχει και η μεγαλύτερη καταστροφή...δέν στο έμαθε ο μπαμπάς σού?...Ά άσε,εκεί που είσαι εσύ μόνο αδελφές έχει ξέχασα..🤣
The legend of paretymology strikes again...
And "Esmeraldo Bito" means "the one who desperately tries to interpret foreign words with his mother tongue" in Nahuatl!🤣
Sorry... But I'm Not desifferimg your narrator's attempt at English.