MacBook Air FANBOY tries Lenovo Yoga 7i!
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What happens when an Apple fanboy assesses the battle between the Lenovo Yoga 7i and the M2 MacBook Air? Could I ever switch to Windows? And what makes the Intel-powered Yoga 7i such an interesting laptop?
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
01:19 - Specs and pricing
02:14 - Most interesting features
09:29 - Conclusion
macOS users: have you ever been tempted by Windows? And, if so, why? Keep it friendly, please!
I grew up using exclusively Windows till I was about 32. But then I tried out a Mac for the first time and suffice it to say, Windows has now been relegated to only for gaming these days 😅
I am tempted by the physical format of this machine! It works in ways I've wanted a laptop to work. Haven't used Windows in ages; I'm a solid Mac and Linux fanboy. If this Yoga 7i runs Linux, it would be the bee's knees!
Yes - I used to use a Dell Inspiron (boring but specced up high and a 16 inch touchscreen) It’s now old and slow and I’ve been using an Intel MBP - now’s the time to change. I mostly edit photos and use Lightroom Classic (and mobile, on the iPad) - what’s the Yoga’s screen like in terms of resolution and colours? I imagine it’s terrible, compared to the Mac Air…….but if you didn’t see them side by side, would the Lenovo be ‘good enough’?
Great video Mark! I love my mac mini and would never move back to windows at home, but have the Lenovo 7i pro for work. It comes with the 13th gen i7 H processor, 1 TB drive, 16 gb ram and 2.5K IPS screen all for about 1100 USD. The Lenovo machine is really quite good and windows 11 has cut out a lot of the complexity and trying to be more simple. Bang for buck it does beat the mac laptops. The equivalent apple machine would have been double for sure. Hopefully Apple is watching!
I have used a Mac on and off since the original 1984 Macintosh. And, I have also consistently used a Windows PC - usually forced into it by my job. Plus, for the past 20 or so years I’ve always had a home built PC on my desk (along with my MacBook Pro). Last year I was so befuddled by the Mac pricing that I decided to purchase an Asus VivoBook Flip 14 so I could have all that touch and flip stuff on a laptop.
But alas, I found I t was more of a novelty (nice!) and I always wanted to go back to my Mac and the “refined” interconnectivity and synergy that happens with the Apple ecosystem. Plus, I had forgotten all the updates and strange PC system stuff you have to deal with to get things working to my liking. What can I say, I returned the VivoBook and am trying to find the hard earned cash to purchase a new MacBook Pro or Air.
Well, he did mention at the top “sponsored by Lonova and Intel.” Being a PC and Mac user, I appreciate both the honesty and information.
I am typing this post on the i5 variant of the YOGA 7i. I am primarily a Mac user and very (perhaps too) vested in the Apple ecosystem. However, when I found this laptop, I was hooked. I got rid of my barely used m1 mac mini and picked up this laptop. Now I have the best of both, a MacBook Pro 14" and The Yoga 7i. Although I have been on both sides over the years, I too have hated on Windows for various reasons. I still enjoy working on a Mac, with all the seamless movement between devices that iCloud allows. But, I cannot deny that Windows 11 has really matured and impressed me. Plus, my experience with Lenovo has always been top notch. For me, its like the Mac of PCs -- if that makes sense.
The ironic thing is that when I am working on a Windows computer, I miss certain things that only my Mac can do. But, conversely, when I am working on my Mac, I wish it did or had things that solely seem to be the province of the PC landscape. So, What to do? Get both, I guess? LOL. Because the "Swiss Army Knife" of computers doesn't exist. There will always be that something missing.
This is great laptop and I am glad I picked it up.
If only someone could combine the best of Mac and the best of Windows :)
Glad to hear you like it. I just ordered the Lenovo yoga 🙏🏻
Do you have the 14" or 16" version. Im thinking about getting one and can't decide on the size.
@@zamaanwellness how do you feel???
@@tahakhankhattakI returned it and got the Dell 16” 2-in-1!
I'm 100% with you on this, Mark! I began as a Windows pro and bought my first Mac out of curiosity, liked it, and gradually bought more. Now, both my work and personal domains are half Windows and half Mac. I prefer that Macs are less administratively 'needy', as I have other things to do, some Windows tasks are infuriating (Windows Server Update Services, anyone?!), and I have no time for bloatware or spyware. I have an earlier Lenovo Yoga and enjoy using it, but my leisure computer is still an early 2015 MacBook Pro 13-inch. I never notice a lack of performance, whereas almost all my older Windows laptops (IBMs and Lenovos) slowed down dramatically then died from hardware failures. I hope my current Yoga prevails, but I'm becoming a complete adherent to Macs because the quality and longevity are so great. Good video - the people have a right to know!
As always, great video Mark. Weird question... where did you get your glasses frames?
Good on you, Mark, for pointing out the benefits of Windows PCs (in this case a Yoga 7i) vs. the MacBook Air. Ultimately it's a matter of personal choice, of course, but the 7i and other Windows laptops have undeniable advantages over their Mac counterparts. These include touchscreens, 2-in-1 form factors, Windows Hello logins, component upgradeability and ease of service, a more varied port selection, and a wider range of prices (8GB RAM upgrades don't cost $200, to give just one ridiculous example from the Apple side). I've owned numerous Macs as well, and they have their own advantages--most notably the M-series processors. But for me, at this moment, it's a Surface Laptop 5 !
As much as I enjoy your content, sponsored videos like this are inherently biased towards the sponsor.
It’s weighted to them in terms of coverage, absolutely. It’s why I only work with sponsors whose products I know, like, trust, and would recommend to my audience. Trust me - _lot’s_ go by the wayside. Thanks for the kind words.
@@MarkEllisReviews Also if someone is calling out a bias due to a sponsorship, they are already demonstrating they are able to comprehend the distinction between sponsorship and a review. It is already understood in the correct context.
@@MarkEllisReviewsthing is..its a beautiful laptop. It simply can’t compete with Apple for one MAJOR, insurmountable reason that no other Windows laptop can. BATTERY LIFE.
@UniversalStand what a truly stupid thing to say. A laptop can be better than a Mac in every single way possible, but will always be inferior simply because of better battery life. Lol. No
@@DashMcdash-gz4qq NO. You’re wrong. If I have to interrupt my workflow because I have to recharge in the middle of the day vs the end it’s a problem. As an aside, and very importantly, this laptop does not compare to a Macbook. How do I know? I returned this exact laptop and bought a Macbook Pro. Far better laptop, far better OS and far longer battery life.
Hello Mark - I relied on your advice in choosing my 1st Generation M1 Mac Book Air. I have been very happy with my choice. But annoying idiosyncraties have started giving me some doubts - as has the evolution of the Mac OS itself, that seems to complicate each upgrade and stray from the Mac OS model.as originally configured. The changes seem be more a layers of cosmetics instead of improvements. Would I be happier with the Yoga''s touch screen manipulation of elements on the screen?. Increased memor. tempting.Is their OS as shipped compatible/equal to Mac OS, or will I be using W.Indows I left 12 years ago.Would you make that kind of change? I am a Mac guy, and still need some compatibility.
Mark have you been reading my mind! Again! Spot on.
I bought the Lenovo Yoga 7i a couple months ago for all the reasons you mentioned. after multiple trips to the Apple store and PC world, for the price and features it just stood out from all the others.
Haha - well, there you go! Enjoy!
I just got mine yesterday and was wondering if there was a “battery protection” feature? Like stopping the charging threshold at around 80% I googled and tried to look it up on TH-cam but my Lenovo vantage app only has conservation mode and battery saver.
May I ask which CPU model you have? 1355U or 1360P?
Hi Mark, what is the sound like on headphones with music?
Can you tell us why and how you are welded in to the apple eco system.. please do an Honest video.. how one can benifit from this type of welded situation..
Hello Mark, I know its been quite some time since you dropped this video but I was hoping you could give me an advice here. So I'm a graphic designer and im looking for a laptop for about 1200 euros and i stumbled upon the yoga i7 with the intel i7 and really liked it. But im also considering buying the m3 macbook air. Ive never used apple products but i have a feeling that they are worth the price, because ive never heard someone complain about their mac getting laggy, slower or buggy. So buying the mac would probably be a safe choice because i know its not going to fail so quickly and decay over time as fast. On the other hand Its clear that the Yoga has so much more advantages over the mac and for me,, being into digital art, it would be very helpful to have the yoga versatility and flexibility. So what should i choose? The long life, stable, luxurious and high perfomance and efficiency macbook air m3, or the flexible, artistic, multiuse Lenovo yoga 7i?
At work, my employer issues HP Elitebooks, which have Windows and facial recognition. Before that, it was Surface Pros with Windows and facial recognition. If those, frankly, un-premium machines incorporate facial recognition, it's bizarre to me that Macs don't. It's on my iPhone and my iPad but not on my MacBooks, even though there's that notch. I can live with that because fingerprint readers are an okay alternative to face recognition, and I have an Apple Watch that the Macs detect to automatically unlock the MacBooks when I open them (and I don't have to be looking at the MacBooks' cameras). Still, it's strange that Macs don't have face recognition when Windows alternatives do.
can i run linux on it? will touchscreen work?
Ive had my Macbook Pro for 10 years and really have no issues but im also very interested in this computer, i like the touch screen.
Love that you reach out to try other brands. The lag though at 5:50 on the touchscreen confirms why I keep reaching for Apple. Windows is just too inconsistent and buggy when it comes to function where Apple just works as an iPad that works seemlessly with the pencil or the Macbook Air which is far thinner, a beauty to use and so many more features with an optimized trackpad, nice display and great keyboard. Not to mention scrolling through webpages is a breeze on either Apple product... but you need two.
The other understated point of Apple is the second-hand market. Apple holds value for much longer than any windows i've ever owned and there's always a buyer.
Do not feel a need to touch a laptop screen...that's why they make tablets. And your right windows can be a mess with Breached security updates and an update that will give you a BSOD. No drivers to download on Mac, just a software update.
When Apple does some particularly annoying thing (scrapping the 27" iMac's!!!) I sometimes think I'll move back to Windows ... then I use windows for a few minutes and realize how bad it is. I'm a photographer and one of the problems is getting sometimes hundreds of shots to clients. I use Dropbox - that works fine for 80- 90% of clients but there are a small percentage who only work from IOS/Android and find downloading at full resolution on phones problematic. A few days ago a neighbour I'd shot said he was having problems understanding dropbox and asked me to email the shots to him ... I just copied them onto a USB stick and handed them to him ... he rings me a few times through the day to say he's having problems as his HP laptop says the "file format isn't recognized" ... it turns out that the Windows laptop created 200+ duplicate JPG files - all at 4kb - in each folder - and added a bunch of folders ... (I suspect it's the antivirus) We found my shots buried at the bottom end of the folder listing ... hmmm back to my Mac
G’day Mark, I enjoyed the review almost as much as how you went about the review. I like computers, both Windows and Mac but it seems that like yourself my choice is for Mac for features that are important to me. Just as Windows users have their set of values for computers that are important to them. You have shown us the features that make the Lenovo a very nice computer and how attractive it is. You have written a great review without being disrespectful to either Mac or Windows. My grandson has just received a Lenovo laptop for the start of his senior years in High School. Looks basic, black and boring but being a school approved issue with some sort of Windows Enterprise software version it will be a tried and tested probably bullet proof computer. I am itching to get my hands on it to see what it is all about.
Thanks for the kind words!
Here is a windows experience to convey. I have a Dell xps 17 that I do regular updates on. In July a windows update crashed the laptop and I had to do a complete reinstallation. In late August I purchased a yoga 9i and sunbsequently did two updates over a span of a month. The second update destroyed the ability for the yoga’s battery to charge. I had to return it for a complete refund. Microsoft is completely reckless putting troublesome updates out there.
I had been looking at a macbook air m2 for a few months when I stumbled on a yoga 7i. Ended up with the lenovo because of the monitor on it. I chose the 14" oled version with 1tb which cost about the same as the macbook but with literally quadruple the storage and it can be a tablet
The features of the Lenovo yoga seem to be more bang for your buck. I just ordered it too and was similarly looking into a MacBook. How are you liking it? Is the fan noise loud?
And I am more partial to Windows for my use case and principle of not wanting to pay that Apple tax but I just got a 14 MacBook Pro M3 Pro because of battery life and the screen( Why I traded in my M2 Air ). You just can't match the battery life and efficiency of Apple's M chips for laptops. Battery life is the most important thing for me along with bright screen and the MacBooks even the Air's do it. My primary machine is a Windows Desktop with a Nividia 3080, Intel i7-12700F and 32GB of RAM but this MBP is nice and works for me on the go. Also the fact you get the same power on battery vs AC adapter is a major plus.
A master class in how to do a comprehensively detailed, sponsored video with integrity and openness. Well done. I'm a recent buyer of an Apple 14" M3 Max MacBook Pro - but have used Lenovo laptops of various models for a few years now. Looks like an amazing 2-in-1 this Yoga.
Thank you!
I have spent weeks researching my next laptop and ended up with the Yoga7i 16 inch. Just make sure you select the IR camera option for facial recognition.
So happy to hear that. I did about 2 days of research and landed on it too. How are you liking it?
Used a 2 in 1 yoga thinkpad for 2.5 years. Battery was terrible and the hinge cracked the screen frame in a year. Lenovo didn‘t want to repair the device. A device that breaks because of the fundamental mechanism of a laptop: opening and closing. Got a used macbook for cheap and an iPad. Much, much, much better combination. The Apple Pencil is also super precise. With these pens you can‘t make stable lines and need calibration from time to time.
Those Intel space heaters use a lot of power compared to a M series Macbook.
And they run Windows... nuff said.
Didn't mention the screen resolution.
Hi ** Did you know ????? There is a serious design defect in this LENOVO yoga series of laptop.... the micro SD Card slot. You can insert a micro SD Card in the slot but you cannot eject it if you want to remove, replace the card or use multiple card. There is no eject mechanism in the SD card slot, so once inserted it is stuck and you can't do a thing to take SD card out.
Hello! Is this problem not being solved? Is it really impossible to extract?
I work with both Windows and Macs. I prefer working on a Mac as I love the trackpad, huge battery life and quietness of the laptops and desktops. Windows machines work well but the interface is less intuitive and the battery life sucks. When teaching I get feedback from students that all they can hear is fan noise, something I never get on a Mac. For me, as I have a job which can allow me the option, a Mac and an iPad is better than the Lenovo Yoga. I just wish windows laptops could run colder or some software and game providers could embrace the Mac.
The fans are always my biggest issues. I'm mostly a Linux user, so I tend to get Windows laptops and then wipe them. But I was using my friend's MacBook Air for a bit and just enjoyed how quiet it was. Makes it difficult to choose since I really do dislike Apple's practices.
Proper CPU design? Doesn’t matter how fast it is transcoding and encoding video. M series is gimped for I/O.
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Bought 2 Lenovo Yoga 7i i5 16GB RAM 512 SSD. The best bag for your buck. For 10 percent more performance get the i7. The intel i5 is really great, no slow down at all.
I always know why i try to avoid getting back to Windows when pressional reasons force me to use Windows software (the office thing) which seems to be getting worst by the day (with the exception of it’s Stability, i have no more word crashes in particular since using Apple silicon) but don’t get me started in Outlook, teams,… utter rubbish. And when you sit in a shared workspace with colleagues on all kinds of Windows laptops (all doing same as me office work, research, browning) and they all seem to compete in fan noise or anxiously looking for power outlets… You know why you get a mac every time..
I also have the yoga 7 but its a lower options one from with an amd clip and 8gs of ram. For 500$ i love it they look exactly the same and it performs well for what i need im no pro computer user
is pen charging?
Will you trying out the Lenovo Legion Go as well? Should make for an interesting video
Thanks for the tip-off. Maybe!
Apple won't give any Mac a touch screen or tablet abilities until they give up on the iPad. Which won't be happening anytime soon I imagine.
With that said, Face ID would be quite nice.
Lenovo fan boy tries Macintosh computers, as shown in the following video.
I just got it , I love it bruh it’s perfect for streaming
Please does the yoga 7i have fingerprint?
it does on most models but make sure you to check first. I've seen some without.
Yes! I like the ability of the touch screen! Thats theeee only thing that prevents me from buying a MacBook AGAIN!
Until Microsoft finds a way to give you all the power off the charger and fix the battery usage on standby Mac laptops are king.
So why didn‘t you show us how you edit your videos on this yoga ad?
Because I use Final Cut Pro. Thanks for watching and engaging - appreciate it 👍
Much as I love Apple stuff, I've just ordered a Lenovo Legion to replace my 2015 MacBook Pro (they do last well, I'll give them that).
Yes, the new MacBooks are lovely, but most people don't need the power of the M2/ M3 and they're slowly but surely just pricing themselves out of the reach of most people.
Don't suppose it'll bother Apple too much though. I doubt that Macs are their main source of income.
Agree 100%. I really do like MacBooks but the prices are ridiculous. They are indeed pricing themselves out of the reach of most people.
I am a software developer and a lecturer. This laptop perfectly fits my needs. I want a large display (16") for coding, and a pen for my lecture. Some lecturers have additional tablets with pens for handwriting, but Yoga is the all-in-one solution.
Nice video. No disrespect, but let's be honest, no laptop with an integrated Intel graphics and no dedicated Nvidia or AMD gpu like what the Lenovo Yoga 7i seems to be, it's not going to be a gaming beast. Therefore it does not have serious gaming cabalities like you claim it has.
No word on the battery life of the Yoga 7i? Because in this case you cannot beat the Macbook Air... also in the category "fan noise" - because there is fortunately no one. When it comes to Windows Laptops there are a few advantages, but also a lot of disadvantages; in business life I had to deal with many expensive Thinkpad-Laptops like the X1 Carbon until I forced the IT to give me a Macbook Pro with an M1 Pro - I had so many issues with these Thinkpad laptops in form of bad functioning touchpads, screens, battery life and so on.
I will agree with you that battery life and fan noise are definite wins for the Macs. My biggest gripe I'd say with Windows/Linux systems.
does it have a placeholder for a pen?
From other videos I’ve seen, it does. The placeholder is near the (usb?) ports if not attached to the port.
So it comes with the pen 🖊️ or we buy it separately 😮
Can this run starwars jedi survivor?
Nice video
20$ anker Adapter hub gives my Mac 7 more ports.
Mark! I love your voice - not tryna be a creep, lol
Fan noise?
Almost none whatsoever.
Purely Mac eco system is why it's for me. That and I know my M series Mac will run perfectly for 5 plus years if not ten. My old unibody Macs are still phenomenal devices after upgrades and Ventura Sonoma patches. I have an iPad for a reason and it's awesome. I personally have never wanted my Mac to have touch screens How often would I really need a 16' tablet???? Can this tablet text iPhones or even androids??? I need my Mac to be able to respond to every single text no matter who it is
I use Windows at work for office stuff and I have a M1 Mac Mini for editing photos at home. Aside from that I have the new M1 IPad Air and an older iPad mini. The iPad mini is gets much more use than the iPad Air, which is too large to carry conveniently. Both Windows and MacOS are irritating in different ways. I have no preference over either.
The yoga pen does not work like the apple pencil on the ipad pro. Not even close.
Here we gooooooooo!
True, but the pen comes free with the Yogo.
Windows User me watching this Video in Lenovo Yoga 7 😉😊
Can you show me the backpack of this laptop
As tempting as it may seem, all windows laptops come with poor battery life, throttled unplug performance, thick(er) chassis ( compare to MacBook Air) , all these make they not " true laptops", they cannot really leave your desk and charger. I really hope intel and AMD can concentrate more on efficiency, make windows laptops truly laptops.
That's an excellent value-no question. But it runs Windows, so that's a hard pass for me. I've used both in my career and MacOS is far superior-despite its flaws-for my uses.
Awesome
mac has the app store
want a mac book air
Should be, PC users, have you ever been tempted by a Mac. 100 percent no.
I buy it from Best Buy today ❤❤❤
I bought mine today 🎉
Me too 🙏🏻
I have both the Macbook Air and the Lenovo. I NEVER use the Lenovo as a tablet. Too heavy. Also never use touchscreen. It's a nice Windows laptop but to be honest, it is no match to the Macbook Air
What does the MacBook have that is better than the Lenovo Yoga?
i may speak to tim cook
Apple pay 899 for an iPhone with 60zh screen but you can buy a flagship that has oled screen for half the price with a better screen
Compare to everything I rather have Lenovo products everyday ❤ + Lenovo is the largest pc company in the world 🌎
Windows will give you more from your money and basically is best that apple computers less expesive more power more freedom. The only thing I hear from Apple users is this oh but is really easy to use. PC for life Papi
Is Mark’s favorite TH-camr named Mark?
Eh?
The problem with windows laptops is Windows, I much prefer it to macOS.
Someone call it fanboyism i call it Stockholm Syndrom ,at least im my case.
ASS to be exact. Apple Stockholm Syndrome 😂
i will hook u up with lenovo
AMD version is more appealing
Windows has nothing to offer me, horrible experince. With my job I use them becuase I have to. No thanks
Nice T (boll-head, specs - whatever you say )
You don’t build “Windows PCs”…you build PCs in general. I used to do the same…but either OS2 and later Linux got installed on them.
😂 Bring ‘em on!
I ‘built Windows PCs’, mate. That’s how I lost lost of my hair.
He's not wrong though!
Cool video btw I just wish glossy screens were more common on non Apple screens!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Do not buy anything other than a Thinkpad from Lenovo. This Yoga is a piece of junk in terms of quality.
Unless they've drastically changed their quality, I have a Yoga from 6 years ago that still works and looks brand new. Only issue is the battery is dead and it's underpowered for modern apps, but I can replace the battery for €50 if I so choose.
@@Thatbeardedguy86how long after you bought it did the battery die?
@@zamaanwellness I’d say it was about 4.5 years before the battery finally completely crapped out. It was getting hard to hold a decent charge after like 3.5 or so.
@@Thatbeardedguy86 thank you for your response. That's a decent amount of time I guess. Were you using it for heavy video editing/gaming, etc or just casual internet browsing/documents, etc? I just ordered the lenovo yoga.
@@zamaanwellnessmainly on the go coding in VSCode and browsing. Nothing too heavy. But I have the base model so only 8gb and 256. It was just a cheap on the go and it worked great.