As mentioned in the video, this BIoshock Lore video will have a different format style to try and avoid spoiling the game for those who haven't experienced it yet. Of course I made the mistake of doing so in the past, so I apologize for that. Anyways, please watch the video until the end, I promise it's worth it. Hope you enjoy the video everyone!
The Bioshock multiverse has plenty of intelligent women, like Tenenbaum, Elizabeth, Daisy Fitzroy, and of course, Sofia Lamb. But where Tenenbaum seeks redemption and Daisy and Elizabeth are driven by a desire for freedom, revenge, or a combination of both, Lamb wants control more than anything, dressing it up in selflessness and using her knowledge of the human psyche to manipulate others into joining her cause. Like any nurturing parent, Lamb wants what’s best for Eleanor, but goes about it in a highly unethical way, raising her not to be her own person but as a living embodiment of her warped ideals
A definitely enjoyable and surprising part of the game when you play for the first time! When playing BS1 and BS2, I wondered how the little sisters were so completely ignorant to the environment around them, even when they were - I guess to put it one way - consumed by Adam? And full of such euphoria and bliss from adam’s effects(? Just my thinking on how it makes them feel based on how it makes regular people feel under it’s effects). But one can’t ignore the environment around ya. So it was awesome to see just how they perceive the world that helps us understand why they are so nonchalant and chipper all the time in such a dystopia lol
It's the brain washing and mental conditioning. That's not how Rapture ever looked if i remember. the girls didnt want to gather adam at first so they had to find ways to make it more pleasant.
I was a bit disappointed that we never fought Sophia lamb like we did frank at the end of bioshock1.. It would of been cool if she turned herself into a super big sister and fought Eleanor and delta
Who did we fight?? Lol it's been like ten years since I last played Bioshock 2. Was it just a group of Big Sisters? I remember Eleanor turned herself into a big sister..
Tbh, I prefer when you recap the backstory and go into the actions of the characters in the game. Since it’s about the game lore and the character’s lore, their actions in game are pretty important to who they are. As long as you put a disclaimer at the beginning saying it’s going to spoil stuff, it should be fine. If somebody watches it and is upset about being spoiled even with a disclaimer, that’s on them.
There is a theory that Booker is actually an alternate universe version of Johnny Topside/Delta. Aside from the somewhat obvious hand scar that reads A.D on Booker and the letter for Delta (overlap A and D, see what it looks like) being present on both and identifying them as an enemy of the "city", there are parallels with Elizabeth/Eleanor AND with Lamb. It's pretty easy to see how Elizabeth is Eleanor - the name, the plasmid/splicing, the affinity for amplifying these powers, the care for the children, etc. But there's another thing. In Rapture (or that Rapture) Elizabeth exists as both Eleanor AND Sofia Lamb. Remember when in Infinite Booker did not save Elizabeth? She turned into the "Lamb" to lead the flock and set everything aflame. Same mentality as Sofia Lamb(and there is a reason her name is Lamb) who led the family. At the same time Elizabeth is the daughter, the innocent side that has not yet lost hope and it surviving until she is saved. Notice Lamb comes after the conflict with Ryan and Fontaine like old Elizabeth comes after the conflict between Comstock and Fitzroy. She hates Delta because he never came to save her, much like Booker never came for old Elizabeth. Sofia is actually trying to save the city but ends up being misguided, much like old Elizabeth. If you believe this theory, replay or rewatch all the interactions between Sofia and Eleanor and you will gain a new appreciation of what she is trying to do in guiding her younger self in trying to teach her how to save herself because she is convinced nobody else will. Because she was never saved. So she despises the idea that Delta or Booker will come, as he never came for this version of her.
sweet vid bro, i was always so intrigued by sofia lamb’s story and how she manipulated the most vulnerable people in places like pauper’s drop (one of the coolest levels in the entirety of bioshock imo) to follow her through the use of psychology and do what she says. It’s really cool and i wish BS2 got more credit for the parts of the story it did well. (also i enjoy the backstory portion of the lore videos, and wouldn’t mind if you made a different video about the same topics that went into the spoilers of the game)
After finally playing the game "Would you kindly" gives me the chills. I just bought the Bioshock collection. I adore it. I also love Spoilers. I like to know what's coming, I know it's not practical, and probably not normal, but spoilers help me when I play games or watch movies, I dont have that the uneasiness of not knowing what's coming
Would be great if you go into the events in the game as well. I mean, you can throw in a spoiler alert just in case, but people should be responsible for avoiding spoilers for a game that came out so many years back. Realistically the people that want to go this in depth, myself and many others, probably already played the games a bunch of times already. But I think if you put on a spoiler warning, it's more than enough 😊
Been looking forward to this for so long!! Thank you! I love the incorporation of the whole story - including through the games. This is great for newcomers, but I think most viewers are those who have played the games, so I vote to include the entire character’s story in these videos. This was fantastic regardless! 🤗👌🏻
Saving all the little sisters and killing Grace, Stanley, and Gill, is what I do every time I replay Bioshock 2. Never get tired of seeing Sofia drown.
" i see Father Wales has parted you from your craft, and yet you cling to life. Congratulations. Today, Delta, you meet a man who has no fear of death. And for Eleanor...he would burn with a smile."
I have my own theory about how Sofia Lamb started The Family of Rapture. It's possible that Sofia might've met Comstock when he came to Rapture in 1949, he must've told her about Columbia and how he started everything and what happened to baby Anna (Elizabeth). So all of Comstock's beliefs must've influenced Lamb in to start her own belief and get the people of Rapture on her side and Eleanor to be like the Seed. To be honest, Bioshock 2 and BioShock Infinite have some Constants & Variables Between Rapture and Columbia. Lamb and Comstock. Delusions of paradise. Eleanor and Elizabeth. And Booker and Delta trying to rescue their daughters. Again, this is just a theory
@@TheBioshockHub Thank you so much! It took me about 2 years to come up with this theory. Plus have you ever noticed that Eleanor and Elizabeth almost look exactly like each other? I believe so. I also believe that when Elizabeth died in Burial at Sea- Episode II, she must've been reincarnated as Eleanor. So, she was in 2 places at once, but never see each other in '58 when Elizabeth came to Rapture to find Comstock and rescue Sally. So maybe, there's really a connection with all 3 Bioshock games because they all almost have the same story and goal
@@ChristopherZavalaVlogs I wouldn't mind that if that were the case. Unfortunately, 2 doesn't have anything to do with 1 or Infinite. I honestly dislike that.
@@TheBioshockHub true, but it's all about the Constant and Variables from a certain point of view and theory. Just like with MYST V- End of Ages. They said that it was the last sequel in the MYST series, but it had nothing to do with the first four MYST games, even though some of characters are still there. MYST V was actually a sequel to URU: Ages Beyond Myst- The Complete Chronicles because URU and MYST V was about the D'ni, while the first four MYST games about Atrus, his family and his past and the worlds of MYST that he created. Also, when I was in 7th grade, I watched a Comedy-Drama movie called, Melinda and Melinda. The movie was about two Broadway writers who tell a story about a woman named Melinda who's a divorced woman from St. Louis and goes to New York to meet some friends and find true love again and her friends help and she finds true love once again. But, one writer tells his version of Melinda as a Comedy, while the other writer tells his version of Melinda as a Drama and have a different story and more tragic, but still have the same plot. Sorry for this history lesson, but again, there's a lot of Constant & Variables in games, movies and books. We all have to see it that it's there. I know that Elizabeth's a fictional character and all, but she teaches us in the real world about what's similar and what's different
Damb man , the lore just keeps getting better and better , can you imagine if some big movie company uses all the information you have procured to create a screenplay , , yet again love the videos keep up the good work
I’d prefer the back story and the recap, but that’s because I already played the game. I suppose they could be two separate videos right? Btw this is really cool, I wouldn’t even know where to begin looking up the backstory for these characters.
I can see the intention but to be honest I feel like the old format of your lore videos would be more beneficial to most of your viewers. Most likely, if someone is looking for a "lore" video they don't mind the spoilers and they either finished the game, or want to know the full story about a character so a "spoiler alert" would be sufficient. I think going over the events of the game would make it better specially for people who are unable to play the game due to limitations (physical or other forms) but still would love to know every bit of the story :) just my 2 cents, great job on making amazing contents, please don't take my comment as a criticism I only say this because you are such a wonderful narrator!!
I like it when you break the character down in the game 🙂 maybe just do a spoiler warning before it to give people a choice. It's cool hearing other prospectives on a charecter
Regardless of your play through you should of had a boss fight with her and make your decision in the end of it. It also would have been cool if you fought an adam overdosed monstrosity that's in the way between you and Elanor somewhere in the middle of the game and she gets away and blows up where you are and you have to maneuver through the wreckage underwater.
🍻 Yep it sure was, right after Jack kill Ryan to take over Rapture city and defeated Fontaine. Lamb take control all Rapture city and make Rapture Family as well. And yes it was, right now Eleanor send Little Sister to brought Delta to life from vita chamber. Great information you have and thanks intel.
In the videos about bioshock infinite when you've mentioned that you'll talk about burial at sea I've always clicked of cus I havnt played burial at sea yet I watch up until the point of burial at sea
Hey, I've just recently ran through all these games. They're great! And as much as I want to give myself credit, hell if I can actually straighten out what's going on. So, thanks for the great work and I do hope you keep it up with 4 supposedly somewhere on the horizon!!
Great videos! keep them up. I loved the gameplay in the background too. Nothing like smashing some big sisters up with the drill at 10:00. I hate them!
I do think you should cover the events of the game too. They're important to the character and better help explain them. As long as you put a warning in the beginning, then only they themselves are to blame.
I liked Sophia Lamb as a villain. An collective thinking villain that at heart wanted to give the citizens a good life but as time went by got more and more crazy! Personally i like her political views better than Andrew Ryan philosofy. But of course, she went too far. But a great written characrer. Maybe one of tge best in the whole series. Well done!!
I think your original format is the best. I think that the majority of the people that are watching these videos will be fans of the games and not someone that just stubbled on the channel. So keeping the format you had up until now would be the best I think
Sofia the main enemy of Bioshock 2 brings more story into the game. If Sofia wasn’t in there for replacement of Andrew Ryan it wouldn’t make it “Bioshock 2” from my experience of Bioshock 2 is interesting in a way and Sofia was what made Bioshock 2 Bioshock 2
9:20 is that an Easter egg making that look like Robert Lutece or am I just tripping out? I ask this because it’s been a while since I’ve played bioshock 2 and I saw your arrow pointing a different direction. So is that guy supposed to look like Lutece
TheBioshockHub I know that Infinite doesn’t really connect with Bioshock 2 and that really sucks. Maybe the next bioshock can connect all of them in some way. I just thought that guy looked like Lutece and I didn’t remember extracting that persons adam so I wasn’t sure. Have a good day Erik
I think you should continue the way you were doing. I love the fact you are trying to avoid spoiling the games for people. That was always something that irritated me when stuff got ruined. That said, however, it doesn't feel like a true lore video to have cut it off when you did. I think a fair solution around that would be that you do the lore video up to a point where you reach a point that it intercepts the game, and put down a MAJOR spoiler alert, do you exit, then continue the video that way people have time to know it's the end before the spoilers, here what you feel is needed to be said, then they can close the video while those who have played the game or don't mind spoilers keep watching.
The young Eleanor lamb audio tapes are so cute! Also did Bioshock 1 mention other children in rapture apart from the little sisters. Anyway I know I'm very late but good video anyway.
There was a very few amount of children mentioned I believe. Eleanor mentions Amir, Bioshock 1 has Masha Lutz, and there might be more but I can't think of them at this moment. I'm sorry for that.
In case Sofia didn't know, the US had plans to invade Japan instead of bombing it. The amount of casualities projected are rather... high. (500k to 1 million perhaps higher). I would suggest the wikipedia article called Operation Downfall. Gives a decent account of it. Even Sofia had succeeded in doing what she wanted, Rapture was still screwed. There is no way Rapture would have lasted after what Jack and Delta did to the place.
Also I would love to see more Bioshock 2 multiplayer.. i seem to remember there being a room you could visit to change characters etc..which looked like a hotel room..am I tripping?
Can someone answer a question I've had for a long time. What was made first the Rosie and Bouncer or the Alpha Series? The Rosie and Bouncer were in Burial at sea which took place as the same time as the beginning cut scene of Bioshock 2 when Delta was protecting Eleanor. So that kinda makes me wonder what was made first the Rosie and Bouncer or the Alpha Series?
@@thebioshocknerd3192 he is her biological father (i think out of an expiriment or something but Johnny topside did not make love with Sophia thats what i know) so subject delta is her biological father and also kind of big daddy father
@@TheBioshockHub well it was not supposed to be that in the beginning Andrew Ryan's dream was noble if a bit misguided but due to Frank / Atlas's outside contraband and atom monopoly applying pressure on both Ryan and the people it became a mess.
Can you please re do this video. I completely understand your intentions but for people who just want to get the lore they are here for and reason. This video didn’t really provide much information and would drive vire
Way to wordy, too much reiterating, awkward phrasing, subjective reasoning where it is uneeded, production/writers perspective being given about what is beong said as it is being said, etc. Not trying to be mean, just giving soem advice. The script feels like a very first draft or improved in the moment. Make sure to write it out beforehand and review it/give it to someone else for editing remarks. Practice reading speeches or scripts fluidly on a regualr basic with emphasis on your timing and pronunciation. Better script formatting/wording will help on thsi too. When you get lost or hung up the most is when you are reading confusingly worded or run on sentences.
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As mentioned in the video, this BIoshock Lore video will have a different format style to try and avoid spoiling the game for those who haven't experienced it yet. Of course I made the mistake of doing so in the past, so I apologize for that. Anyways, please watch the video until the end, I promise it's worth it. Hope you enjoy the video everyone!
My favorite Bioshock antagonist - a highly intelligent woman whose desire for a better world is thwarted by her elitism and lack of empathy.
The Bioshock multiverse has plenty of intelligent women, like Tenenbaum, Elizabeth, Daisy Fitzroy, and of course, Sofia Lamb. But where Tenenbaum seeks redemption and Daisy and Elizabeth are driven by a desire for freedom, revenge, or a combination of both, Lamb wants control more than anything, dressing it up in selflessness and using her knowledge of the human psyche to manipulate others into joining her cause. Like any nurturing parent, Lamb wants what’s best for Eleanor, but goes about it in a highly unethical way, raising her not to be her own person but as a living embodiment of her warped ideals
I really like how you actually ask people who didn't like the video to dislike and tell you why. That's a great way to grow
I'd personally like to know what I'm doing wrong to grow moving forward.
I like how when you walk around as a little sister you see how happy the place was before
A definitely enjoyable and surprising part of the game when you play for the first time! When playing BS1 and BS2, I wondered how the little sisters were so completely ignorant to the environment around them, even when they were - I guess to put it one way - consumed by Adam? And full of such euphoria and bliss from adam’s effects(? Just my thinking on how it makes them feel based on how it makes regular people feel under it’s effects). But one can’t ignore the environment around ya. So it was awesome to see just how they perceive the world that helps us understand why they are so nonchalant and chipper all the time in such a dystopia lol
It's the brain washing and mental conditioning. That's not how Rapture ever looked if i remember. the girls didnt want to gather adam at first so they had to find ways to make it more pleasant.
And I'll have a video about that specific part very soon too ;)
@@TheBioshockHub Cant wait!!!
@@boris-gg3gw More specifically, today.
Fun fact there's a unused cut scene where eleanor reviled that delta is her biological father
I was a bit disappointed that we never fought Sophia lamb like we did frank at the end of bioshock1.. It would of been cool if she turned herself into a super big sister and fought Eleanor and delta
Oh my gosh didn’t know I needed this until now lol
Who did we fight?? Lol it's been like ten years since I last played Bioshock 2. Was it just a group of Big Sisters? I remember Eleanor turned herself into a big sister..
Basically the "boss fight" was just a bunch of enemies being thrown at you. :/
@@TheBioshockHub Now I'm sad jk lol Thanks for the input, tho..Good video. For that, I'm dropping a question, a like AND an additional reply.
@@gobbleswells2883 Thank you!
Tbh, I prefer when you recap the backstory and go into the actions of the characters in the game. Since it’s about the game lore and the character’s lore, their actions in game are pretty important to who they are. As long as you put a disclaimer at the beginning saying it’s going to spoil stuff, it should be fine. If somebody watches it and is upset about being spoiled even with a disclaimer, that’s on them.
YUP 100% agree
Thank you.
@@TheBioshockHub No problem, love your videos!
@@cr1ng3_king
There is a theory that Booker is actually an alternate universe version of Johnny Topside/Delta. Aside from the somewhat obvious hand scar that reads A.D on Booker and the letter for Delta (overlap A and D, see what it looks like) being present on both and identifying them as an enemy of the "city", there are parallels with Elizabeth/Eleanor AND with Lamb. It's pretty easy to see how Elizabeth is Eleanor - the name, the plasmid/splicing, the affinity for amplifying these powers, the care for the children, etc. But there's another thing. In Rapture (or that Rapture) Elizabeth exists as both Eleanor AND Sofia Lamb. Remember when in Infinite Booker did not save Elizabeth? She turned into the "Lamb" to lead the flock and set everything aflame. Same mentality as Sofia Lamb(and there is a reason her name is Lamb) who led the family. At the same time Elizabeth is the daughter, the innocent side that has not yet lost hope and it surviving until she is saved. Notice Lamb comes after the conflict with Ryan and Fontaine like old Elizabeth comes after the conflict between Comstock and Fitzroy. She hates Delta because he never came to save her, much like Booker never came for old Elizabeth. Sofia is actually trying to save the city but ends up being misguided, much like old Elizabeth.
If you believe this theory, replay or rewatch all the interactions between Sofia and Eleanor and you will gain a new appreciation of what she is trying to do in guiding her younger self in trying to teach her how to save herself because she is convinced nobody else will. Because she was never saved. So she despises the idea that Delta or Booker will come, as he never came for this version of her.
"No daughter of mine will be marrying a dog eater" Eleanor imagining sophia disproving of her liking Amir. Probably. 😁
She probably wasn't too thrilled lol.
Who the fuck is amir?😂
@@smileface1618 a boy Eleanor liked
sweet vid bro, i was always so intrigued by sofia lamb’s story and how she manipulated the most vulnerable people in places like pauper’s drop (one of the coolest levels in the entirety of bioshock imo) to follow her through the use of psychology and do what she says. It’s really cool and i wish BS2 got more credit for the parts of the story it did well. (also i enjoy the backstory portion of the lore videos, and wouldn’t mind if you made a different video about the same topics that went into the spoilers of the game)
I believe this explains why she is the villain in Bioshock 2...helpful (love your videos...keep it up! :D)
:) Thank you
After finally playing the game "Would you kindly" gives me the chills. I just bought the Bioshock collection. I adore it. I also love Spoilers. I like to know what's coming, I know it's not practical, and probably not normal, but spoilers help me when I play games or watch movies, I dont have that the uneasiness of not knowing what's coming
Great video! I've always found Sofia a very interesting character
Thank you Andrew!
Mr. Andrew Ryan
I really wished you had more subscribers you deserve them
It's okay. That'll come with time and I have a lot of patience lol. Thank you for the kind comment though.
Would be great if you go into the events in the game as well. I mean, you can throw in a spoiler alert just in case, but people should be responsible for avoiding spoilers for a game that came out so many years back. Realistically the people that want to go this in depth, myself and many others, probably already played the games a bunch of times already. But I think if you put on a spoiler warning, it's more than enough 😊
Give us the backstory and the recap of the characters actions , and keep up the good content
Been looking forward to this for so long!! Thank you! I love the incorporation of the whole story - including through the games. This is great for newcomers, but I think most viewers are those who have played the games, so I vote to include the entire character’s story in these videos. This was fantastic regardless! 🤗👌🏻
I can do that. Just want to try and make everyone happy.
Saving all the little sisters and killing Grace, Stanley, and Gill, is what I do every time I replay Bioshock 2. Never get tired of seeing Sofia drown.
" i see Father Wales has parted you from your craft, and yet you cling to life.
Congratulations.
Today, Delta, you meet a man who has no fear of death. And for Eleanor...he would burn with a smile."
I have my own theory about how Sofia Lamb started The Family of Rapture. It's possible that Sofia might've met Comstock when he came to Rapture in 1949, he must've told her about Columbia and how he started everything and what happened to baby Anna (Elizabeth). So all of Comstock's beliefs must've influenced Lamb in to start her own belief and get the people of Rapture on her side and Eleanor to be like the Seed. To be honest, Bioshock 2 and BioShock Infinite have some Constants & Variables Between Rapture and Columbia. Lamb and Comstock. Delusions of paradise. Eleanor and Elizabeth. And Booker and Delta trying to rescue their daughters. Again, this is just a theory
Not a bad theory there my friend.
@@TheBioshockHub Thank you so much! It took me about 2 years to come up with this theory. Plus have you ever noticed that Eleanor and Elizabeth almost look exactly like each other? I believe so. I also believe that when Elizabeth died in Burial at Sea- Episode II, she must've been reincarnated as Eleanor. So, she was in 2 places at once, but never see each other in '58 when Elizabeth came to Rapture to find Comstock and rescue Sally. So maybe, there's really a connection with all 3 Bioshock games because they all almost have the same story and goal
@@ChristopherZavalaVlogs I wouldn't mind that if that were the case. Unfortunately, 2 doesn't have anything to do with 1 or Infinite. I honestly dislike that.
@@TheBioshockHub true, but it's all about the Constant and Variables from a certain point of view and theory. Just like with MYST V- End of Ages. They said that it was the last sequel in the MYST series, but it had nothing to do with the first four MYST games, even though some of characters are still there. MYST V was actually a sequel to URU: Ages Beyond Myst- The Complete Chronicles because URU and MYST V was about the D'ni, while the first four MYST games about Atrus, his family and his past and the worlds of MYST that he created. Also, when I was in 7th grade, I watched a Comedy-Drama movie called, Melinda and Melinda. The movie was about two Broadway writers who tell a story about a woman named Melinda who's a divorced woman from St. Louis and goes to New York to meet some friends and find true love again and her friends help and she finds true love once again. But, one writer tells his version of Melinda as a Comedy, while the other writer tells his version of Melinda as a Drama and have a different story and more tragic, but still have the same plot. Sorry for this history lesson, but again, there's a lot of Constant & Variables in games, movies and books. We all have to see it that it's there. I know that Elizabeth's a fictional character and all, but she teaches us in the real world about what's similar and what's different
That’s only if you count such a big retcon as BAS in the first place.
Far as I’m concerned, it’s ignored.
I really would have loved to be given the choice to let her win just so I could see what the world could be like
Perfect timing. I JUST got my platinum trophy in this game a few days ago.
Congrats on the Plat!
I'm trying to get platinum I'm 3 trophies away from my goal
Damb man , the lore just keeps getting better and better , can you imagine if some big movie company uses all the information you have procured to create a screenplay , , yet again love the videos keep up the good work
Finally the story behind the lamb awesome work mate 🤘
:) Thank you Junior.
I always love how much you effort you put into the script, as well as editing.
:)
Another great episode and more great artwork from Griefgreen, color me happy!
I love his work!
I’d prefer the back story and the recap, but that’s because I already played the game. I suppose they could be two separate videos right? Btw this is really cool, I wouldn’t even know where to begin looking up the backstory for these characters.
I love this channel so much. Keep up the good work! My favorite Bioshock game is 2.
I can see the intention but to be honest I feel like the old format of your lore videos would be more beneficial to most of your viewers. Most likely, if someone is looking for a "lore" video they don't mind the spoilers and they either finished the game, or want to know the full story about a character so a "spoiler alert" would be sufficient. I think going over the events of the game would make it better specially for people who are unable to play the game due to limitations (physical or other forms) but still would love to know every bit of the story :) just my 2 cents, great job on making amazing contents, please don't take my comment as a criticism I only say this because you are such a wonderful narrator!!
Well done on new vid. Been binge watching your vids today 😊
Why does Sofia have such a masculine face in the thumbnail? 😂
Awesome vid tho
I like it when you break the character down in the game 🙂 maybe just do a spoiler warning before it to give people a choice. It's cool hearing other prospectives on a charecter
Sofia Lamb aka just your average gender studies / philosophy College teacher.
Lol.
lol... i was actually looking for this type of comment.
I'm glad people still make videos on this masterpiece
I'm glad people enjoy them
Regardless of your play through you should of had a boss fight with her and make your decision in the end of it. It also would have been cool if you fought an adam overdosed monstrosity that's in the way between you and Elanor somewhere in the middle of the game and she gets away and blows up where you are and you have to maneuver through the wreckage underwater.
🍻 Yep it sure was, right after Jack kill Ryan to take over Rapture city and defeated Fontaine. Lamb take control all Rapture city and make Rapture Family as well. And yes it was, right now Eleanor send Little Sister to brought Delta to life from vita chamber. Great information you have and thanks intel.
In the videos about bioshock infinite when you've mentioned that you'll talk about burial at sea I've always clicked of cus I havnt played burial at sea yet I watch up until the point of burial at sea
Hey, I've just recently ran through all these games. They're great! And as much as I want to give myself credit, hell if I can actually straighten out what's going on. So, thanks for the great work and I do hope you keep it up with 4 supposedly somewhere on the horizon!!
Great videos! keep them up. I loved the gameplay in the background too. Nothing like smashing some big sisters up with the drill at 10:00. I hate them!
I do think you should cover the events of the game too. They're important to the character and better help explain them. As long as you put a warning in the beginning, then only they themselves are to blame.
I liked Sophia Lamb as a villain. An collective thinking villain that at heart wanted to give the citizens a good life but as time went by got more and more crazy! Personally i like her political views better than Andrew Ryan philosofy. But of course, she went too far. But a great written characrer. Maybe one of tge best in the whole series. Well done!!
I wonder who will play Sophia lamb in the bioshock movie
I don't know if she'd make it into the movie if it ever comes out. They might just straight up focus on Bioshock 1.
@@TheBioshockHub she could be mentioned or in the after credits
I think your original format is the best. I think that the majority of the people that are watching these videos will be fans of the games and not someone that just stubbled on the channel. So keeping the format you had up until now would be the best I think
If it's not broke don't fix it. I love your lore videos just as is. Put in a disclaimer and call it a day.
Will do!
Do both. I like reviewing characters with the background added to it.
Sofia the main enemy of Bioshock 2 brings more story into the game. If Sofia wasn’t in there for replacement of Andrew Ryan it wouldn’t make it “Bioshock 2” from my experience of Bioshock 2 is interesting in a way and Sofia was what made Bioshock 2 Bioshock 2
i was going to sit back and stress during tis video so thanks for activating my code phrase so i could relax
oops lol
@@TheBioshockHub also ive been watching these videos all day to pass time at work so thank you for the great content during a boring monday.
@@undergroundsalmon2815 I really appreciate that, thank you
9:20 is that an Easter egg making that look like Robert Lutece or am I just tripping out? I ask this because it’s been a while since I’ve played bioshock 2 and I saw your arrow pointing a different direction. So is that guy supposed to look like Lutece
I don't think it's an EE. Bioshock 1 and Infinite unfortunately don't tie 2 into their story, which blows.
TheBioshockHub I know that Infinite doesn’t really connect with Bioshock 2 and that really sucks. Maybe the next bioshock can connect all of them in some way. I just thought that guy looked like Lutece and I didn’t remember extracting that persons adam so I wasn’t sure. Have a good day Erik
@@johnfox7811Unfortunately, that is just the "Breadwinner" splicer model.
I think you should continue the way you were doing. I love the fact you are trying to avoid spoiling the games for people. That was always something that irritated me when stuff got ruined. That said, however, it doesn't feel like a true lore video to have cut it off when you did.
I think a fair solution around that would be that you do the lore video up to a point where you reach a point that it intercepts the game, and put down a MAJOR spoiler alert, do you exit, then continue the video that way people have time to know it's the end before the spoilers, here what you feel is needed to be said, then they can close the video while those who have played the game or don't mind spoilers keep watching.
Another good video Erik! I'm really intrigued to know more about BioShock "Parkside" & if it's a sequel to BioShock 2! 😊✌🏼
You and I both. Just waiting for leaks/rumors to pour out.
The young Eleanor lamb audio tapes are so cute! Also did Bioshock 1 mention other children in rapture apart from the little sisters. Anyway I know I'm very late but good video anyway.
There was a very few amount of children mentioned I believe. Eleanor mentions Amir, Bioshock 1 has Masha Lutz, and there might be more but I can't think of them at this moment. I'm sorry for that.
I like the way you did it before. Keep it the same as you did before.
Can do!
I would do one on comstock from burial at sea
Just beat all bioshock games and wutta series lmao. 2 has the best gameplay imo.
Ohh since you’re back I was wondering if you can do the lore on the multiplayer characters from bioshock 2
I could do that for sure.
TheBioshockHub perfect! Looking forward to it!
In case Sofia didn't know, the US had plans to invade Japan instead of bombing it. The amount of casualities projected are rather... high. (500k to 1 million perhaps higher). I would suggest the wikipedia article called Operation Downfall. Gives a decent account of it.
Even Sofia had succeeded in doing what she wanted, Rapture was still screwed. There is no way Rapture would have lasted after what Jack and Delta did to the place.
No matter what timeline you look at, Rapture essentially was set up to fail.
Keep up the amazing Bioshock content
I'll do my best!
Proper capitalization is BioShock. 2K is consistent across all of their marketing. Solid content tho.
Just finished minervas den a few days ago and i fell bad for porter
It's a heartbreaking DLC.
Do whatever you want it's your channel Erik. 😇😉
Loved the video. I watched it twice now.
Also I would love to see more Bioshock 2 multiplayer.. i seem to remember there being a room you could visit to change characters etc..which looked like a hotel room..am I tripping?
Nope, you're right. You have an apartment :)
Keep up the good work brother ❤👍
Will do my friend, will do!
Can someone answer a question I've had for a long time. What was made first the Rosie and Bouncer or the Alpha Series? The Rosie and Bouncer were in Burial at sea which took place as the same time as the beginning cut scene of Bioshock 2 when Delta was protecting Eleanor. So that kinda makes me wonder what was made first the Rosie and Bouncer or the Alpha Series?
Basically the scientists of Rapture. Yi Suchong, Brigid Tenenbaum, Gil Alexander, etc.
Sorry to bother you but I think u may of miss understood I asked if the Rosie and the Bouncer were made before the alpha series were?
@@masonthegamer1372 Oh, my apologies. The Alpha Series were the first model.
Its okay don't worry about it and thanks for letting me know. Oh and your doing great keep up the good work.
@@masonthegamer1372 Thank you Mason. And you're very welcome.
i just spoke to women... feelin pretty epic guys
Great video
Best Villan In Video Game History
ehhh, not really
@@italianinsanity397
Damn can a man have an opinion?
@@TihetrisWeathersby Falcone is the best villain in the game but Sophia in my opinion is the best antagonist in the game.
i i think the way you have been doing these videos has been fine (:
Just trying to avoid future spoilers for people.
Wait so I’m curious, who is the father of Eleanor?
Aidan_ 1958 subject delta/Johnny Topside
@@thebioshocknerd3192 he is her biological father (i think out of an expiriment or something but Johnny topside did not make love with Sophia thats what i know) so subject delta is her biological father and also kind of big daddy father
@@thebioshocknerd3192 if you finish the trial mission you will recieve a video how johnny topside discovered rapture
Makes a story about sophia lamb dosent tell you anything she dose in the story itself besides the pre log Dx
Is it bad I named my two cats jasmine jolene and persephone.
That's actually really cool!
It's here! Yayaaaaaaaaa
:)
This was nice
Thank you!
What if Eleanor and Elizabeth are the same person they look alike idk that’s just my conspiracy
Ironic is it not that saying for the greater good has never been used for good in these games.
Greed outweighs everything in Rapture I suppose.
@@TheBioshockHub well it was not supposed to be that in the beginning Andrew Ryan's dream was noble if a bit misguided but due to Frank / Atlas's outside contraband and atom monopoly applying pressure on both Ryan and the people it became a mess.
Hello Erick ❤
Hello
How was your day Erick my is great so far
Erik: asks for people to explain why they disliked the video if they did
Video: no dislikes
Me: lol (Also sorry if I spelled your name wrong)
Nope, you got it right my friend!
Wait why does Lamb hate Delta?
Because she was trying to essentially brainwash Eleanor to believe in everything she said. However, Delta ruined that.
To think that Sophia lamb wanted what was good for the people, but like a lot of people rapture got the better of them. As well as science!!🤣
That and a bit of greed.
A lore video means spoilers. I dont like how you say no spoilers, but still use video of late game boss fights
remember me TVL_Minoz
Yep
@TheBioshookHub You should just say spoiler alert before recapping the events of the games
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Can you please re do this video. I completely understand your intentions but for people who just want to get the lore they are here for and reason. This video didn’t really provide much information and would drive vire
First.
Way to wordy, too much reiterating, awkward phrasing, subjective reasoning where it is uneeded, production/writers perspective being given about what is beong said as it is being said, etc. Not trying to be mean, just giving soem advice. The script feels like a very first draft or improved in the moment. Make sure to write it out beforehand and review it/give it to someone else for editing remarks. Practice reading speeches or scripts fluidly on a regualr basic with emphasis on your timing and pronunciation. Better script formatting/wording will help on thsi too. When you get lost or hung up the most is when you are reading confusingly worded or run on sentences.