THE BULLGRYN SHIELD BUILD - Ogryn Bleed Stacking - Warhammer 40k Darktide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2023
- Warhammer 40k Darktide New Ogryn Class gameplay with The Bullgryn Shield Build, an Ogryn Bulwark class that specializes on stacking bleeds, Crowd Controlling massive hordes, and sniping elites with the Slab Shield and Grenadier Gauntlet combo.
Warhammer 40000 Darktide New Ogryn Gameplay
Darktide Slab Shield Bullgryn build
Class Overhaul Patch 13 - เกม
A tip for anyone that yells "ROCK" when rocking muties. If you trill the "R" until the moment of impact, the fun increases 150%.
I was sceptical, since I didnt think I had room in my Build for this. But yelling ROCK by trilling the 'R' until the moment of impact is such a QOL improvement.
Can confirm accuracy and enjoyment increases by tenfold
What is this, trilling? Are you speaking in tongs? HERETIC!
@@dickencider104tongs? Uneducated lol
@@dickencider104 Lmao tongs.
In a universe full of absurdly powerful guns, enhanced melee weapons, specially crafted diseases and magic, the best available option is... a rock. Naturally.
Honestly worth it for the comedy alone.
To be fair, when you have the strength of a ogryn most things can become a weapon.
Considering how strong an Ogryn is, even a rock, in their hands, is scary deadly xD
Doesn't kill flamers on damnation though and bursters need a headshot from the rock.
Hey a rock can do a lot with a snakebite ork wielding it. It could start a vehicle engine, set everyone on fire, and more.
Sticks and stones WILL break your bones, especially when wielded by an Orgryn
As someone who just hit lvl 30 doing a gunlugger build I gotta say:
They need to give Ogryn guns fucking flashlights.
This is actually loreful. Most Ogryn have a childish fear of the dark and cramped spaces. They'd definitely as about flashlights.
@@spencermorgan2281 the only ogryn gun that needs a bash imo is the ripper, because the bayonet attack is actually really good. But like nothing else needs it. Put a flashlight on my heavy stubber so I can actually *see* what I'm shooting at. Whenever I'm not in the desert areas I literally go through entire missions without shooting because I'm so tired of squinting and firing blindly in the dark.
They need to apply the fire bullet for explosions so we can actually have some napalm action
you have muzzleflash
@@yamahadrag69 you mean you dont fire blindly at sounds in the dark?
Shield loadout is absurdly good, I saw a guy in Krieg gear surviving the exterminatus with a plague ogryn and 5000 mobs on him, still got multiple revives and won. Earned his rations that day.
lowkey that might have been me, i was fucking jamming to two step from hell and that exact situation happened to me
@@The_Real_Iggywhat an absolute banger I may have to listen to whilst playing
@dylangiles1861 skyworld is my go to album
Also had the same happen to me a few days ago, shield definitely feels very Ogryn 💪
@@The_Real_Iggypretty pointless to say low-key when the whole world knows now
I would highly advice taking attention seeker (beneath the stay close! aura) as it taunts any ranged shooting at you, making them rush into melee. be the first one into a room full of gunners and your team has insane control as everything shoots at your shield
i will check it out, thanks for the recommendation!
The taunt also forces most non-elite ranged to switch into melee and try to run you down, which also helps manage dense ranged presence. Being able to immediately peel a crowd off your team with the shield's huge shoves is the backbone of the bullgryn playstyle, without a doubt.
@@milkandcookiesTW Yeah, any shooter that hits your shield will almost immediately stop firing and bayonet charge you, it's kinda funny. Shield plant has something of a niche now if you go into a room full of gunners and they all start shooting at you, they will NOT swap targets. I think it works on snipers as well?
Alot of the new stuff like dome and smoke grenades are super useful, i noticed that trappers, shotgunners and most ranged enemies will run into the smoke to find you. It works similarily for the dome as well except its only for the shotgunners and trapper, just the utility on the smoke and dome seem to be worth the loss of frag/krak and shriek
@@evedaelThe shield just crumps so fast to ranged shooting damage imo. Feel like it needs some extra durability some times
Wait, what?! I didn't know snipers could blast their own buddies! 0:34
They can even trigger Daemonhost
@@weepingmoon1159 that would be very unfortunate
Shotgunners do it too
Just a thing to point out for efficiency, if you take the operative point next to lynchpin, you can get 25 toughness boost instead of just 15 from the one next to SLAM.
Take the toughness node next to lynchpin instead of the one next to slam for 25 instead of 15.
The slow mo of the scap sniper killing his friend was legendary
Karl would approve of all the Rocking and Stoning in this build
Seeing how effective rock throw is, the Big Mutant must be a flying type.
Sure becomes on after impact, at least.
Rock is hilarious but the nuke grenade is sort of the ultimate get out of jail card. When you're getting swarmed and have team mates down it's basically a board clear. That said, I always save it for emergencies so sometimes I go an entire game without using it so it does feel wasted.
Just depends on how you like to play, nuke more reactive because you only carry one while rock you can be proactive because you get a 4 stack that refills 1 per minute. While there might be times I wish I had a nuke to save the game the ability to rock mutants in the face significantly reduces the amount of times I end up in that situation.
Board clear...you play yugioh by chance? Haha
Then go for bix box of hurt, you get 2 and can throw them on the ground and they will explode and stagger 360° allowing you to revive
@@spuriusligustinus4509i also still like the box more than the other options especially now that it always explodes
I actually consider using it if I see an incoming wave of mobs, there's a grenade refill sitting a few steps from me, and I've been in active gameplay long enough to know my teammates are pretty conservative with their own blitzes (or don't need refills like vets and psykers).
Dude. Thank you so much for such a great build. Also your sample gameplay is perfect for showing the strength of the build.
"The shield combo is Heavy Heavy Heavy". Addendum: Sprint Cancel to Loop Heavy1 for more direct damage. Heavy 2 is half the damage per swing. The same can be said for finding the idiosyncrasies of most melee weapons. Animation Cancels. Special attack activation sequences. Unique properties (see Psyker Laspistol vs other classes.) The melee system goes much deeper than this video covers.
good point!
this reminds me of HK-47 :D
Dork alert.
@@UrbanArmada nah he's right, there's lots of complexities to the combat system in Darktide. can be difficult to break down all that nuance while bashing things in the face though lol. I'm not generally a shield player so I'm sure there's tech I dont know about
For horde clear, L1->H2 loops work well, especially since the cleave buff. For single targets, especially armor, H1->ShoveBonk-H1 has been working well for me. It's a little slower than sprint-canceling, but it has more safety from surrounding chaff.
was just working on my Ogryn and was enjoying this exact technique as the video drops, chefs kiss
First 30 seconds of this vid is a rock compilation. I definitely found the right guy
I really hope we get that smaller buckler shield as a melee weapon seen on some bullgryn minifigures, would be nice to have a bit more of an aggressive alternative to the shield combo we have now.
You can also taunt while hiding behind your car door, it's so clutch
Ogryn pulls the demon host, and says "I have done everything I should". Sounds right.
only cowards are afraid of DH
@@milkandcookiesTW Four-step shield ogryn guide to dealing with daemon hosts:
1. Run up to daemon host
2. Scream 'You smells like squid salad!'
3. Plant shield
4. Make faces through view slit
Thank you for sharing having a lot of fun with Ogryn now
I feel like ogryn is a must have on a team a lot of the time because i feel like they do all around the most work. They can have single target dps with bleed or heavy attack spam, they have great hoard clear, rock can deal with specials, and with the blocking taunt feat you can have so much crowd control vs pretty much anything. Plus the shield itself can tank daemonhosts easy, and any other shooter deathsquad that spawns in your ass. I run ogryn with three of my buddies also going ogryn and i have to say auric was surprisingly easy.
I use Attention Seeker and Indomitable instead, along with the Box of Nades. Block-canceling heavies for melee DPS and blocking/pushing for aggro. Indomitable helps to get me out of messy situations and provides enough CC to help out my team, along with mobility to get to something/someone quicker. Can also stagger monstrosities with it.
Love this content bro!
Taunts right next to Demonspawn, aggros it.
Indy - "How did this happen?"
Dude your skin is godly on that man hats off and you’re a dope player man. Enjoying the content I’m gonna drop a sub thanks man
We really need a Power Maul and Brute Shield combo as the next Ogryn melee weapon. Give it the heavy attacks of a shield but lacks the ability to block ranged. In exchange it’s special can still power up the maul and has the one two single target combo of the power mauls light attacks. I really want more weapons for the Ogryn and I think this and/or a 2 handed power maul would be a great addition.
some amazing throws there MC
Did they nerf the Batter passive? It only gives me +4 stacks of bleed on Heavy Melee Hit.
Fire fire fire Rock Rock Rock. Ogryns ancestors are truly smiling upon him, he has the emperor and FAMILY at his side.
My favorite ogryn thing ive been running is just foing wild with point blank barrage and a ripper fun or stubber and the upgrade that adds fire damage and it is just unbelievably silly and fun. Plus its and excuse to use the pocket nuke grenade which is always fun.
That is an awesome intro lmao, love the sniper kill of his teammate the best
lmao at those rock shots in the intro🤣
I like the big bomb and bull charge over the rock and taunt, these also work incredibly well in the build even while I'm still leveling up from 20.
Because while the rocks are hillarious, there is just something about having to press 2 buttons to turn everything in a 16 meter radius into a fine red fleshy paste with 1 giant BOOM that I cannot go without. The only problem is that now I'm fighting the zealot and sometimes also the veteran for any grenade drops 😂
When fighting high density armor, slab shield benefits from block canceling heavy1 over and over. Heavy2 has better damage spread on horses but heavy1 has higher armor pen.
You didnt show case this enough but the push attack overhead actually has respectable singlw target damage, just like the mace and shield in vt2. Against maulers you can start with either a push attack into heavy and spam push attack while the mauler is down, or start with heavy and then push attacks.
Gonna have to test this out. Thanks for the hint.
Love the build ✊
Do you find the ripper gun slots instead of the grenade gauntlet okay in this build?
"its pretty much a callback to Ironbreaker"
oh THAT explains the new round of ogryns i've met with oddly dwarven named all saying the same thing when they taunt, and i joined them:
"KHAZUKAN KHAZAKIT! HA!"
side note i REALLY want another shield weapon that gives us pen, yknow like the axe n shield in vermintide (oh i know maybe the FUCKING GG AND SHIELD LIKE THE BULLGRYN MODEL)
I just leveled up and unlocked the shield! 😎 I was already doing bleed meele so this is stonks
Is there a specific reason you absolutely never use the push attack? Is it useless when going from difficulty 4 to 5?
How did you get the enemy to attack you in the psykanium?
well guess I'm rolling an Ogryn next! fun build!
For some reason i cant hit jack with the rock.
I was always on point with my box throws though, is it faster or is the hitbix different?
I think the Charge with bleed damage on the left hand side is superb - but charging through huge fields of enemy - with all the bleed buffs and damage buffs - it exponentialises your team kill speed. I bull charge everything to deal with that passive damage over time. Then regen ability speed is cool - you can literally charge every 30s.
Excited for the bullying!
I love that the shield is now good but I think the shovel beats it. Now that the heavies don't have a cap to how many it can hit it also spreads bleed very well in crowd like the shield but the single target damage against carapace or maniac is way better. Though the shield obviously can block ranged fire and It does do much better if there's a crowd of heavily armored targets, I think the shovel doing better single target against the toughest enemies makes it slightly better. It also gets the brittleness blessings which is just more damage for the team. Doesn't mean I'm gonna take off shield though.
Did you know that weapon melee can apply bleed? Some weapons like the Kickback and Rumbler melee are super fast. They have wide sweeping attacks as well.
yeah I've taken down a couple bosses with Bayonet stab bleed lol
@@milkandcookiesTW I've been getting toughness regen with weapon bashing too.
The rocks are nice, but damn I love the frag, mostly going gunlugger
I think I’m going to run this build for my shield ogryn il try it out tonight. I might try to keep
My nuke grenade if possible though as I’m not great tossing the rock.
The team literally would not have survived without you. Though the zealot immolation grenade was pretty clutch.
Thank god the slab shield is good now It was ridiculous how weak ogryns melee were before it made no sense. Also I still find that the classic ripper can opener is the best range weapon for ogryn but everything but the kickback feels good.
The kickback fucking sucks dude. I don’t know how many newgyns fall for the trap of that…..pathetic weapon of a shotgun.
Imagine being a sniper and seeing a giant boulder flying at you at mach speed in the corner of your eye.
I know whats coming next and I'm all for it
I've just started playing this game because it just become available on Xbox. So far I just use the ogern and do the quick play or whatever but so far I love the game
Aaaah ! I have been killing Muties with a lunchbox or a rock into staircase and see them flying away for almost a year and it never gets old ! 😆
Still a viable build or are there tweaks needed? I heard bleed has been nerfed, but I still have it used
Hey folks, might be a dumb question but: How do you fight things in the training room???
So is the DT finally worth grabbing or wait?
spamming the block push with shield breaks bulwark's guard now.
People make jokes about this, but a rock of that size being hurled at your face at that speed would leave more then a small boo boo.
Big Boy deserves a Cy Young award for pitching all those mutants out of the game 😂😂
Ogryn has merge onto himself the rioter and the law-enforcer, it has become a force of nature a thunderstorm that draw its energy from the paradox of its existence. It has become SMASH the bender of jaw. This is magnificent I guarantee there will be meme about the 'Gryn soon.
Why max health over say, toughness? is it just because of the higher return on investment for the percentage?
What counts as "fully charged" for Crunch? Messing around with it in the meat grinder, it only seemed to apply to heavies held long enough they went off on their own (showing up briefly on the buff bar when they did).
I think fully charged is when the attack starts without letting go of the button. Same with thrust blessing where the swing starts at three stacks of thrust.
Seems kind of like a wasted talent. In the time it takes you to fully charge one attack, you can animation cancel into two heavy 1, which combined do more damage than the bonus the talent provides (plus adding 12 stacks of bleed instead of just 6).
"My Blood! He puched out all my blood!"
Yes. Forget nuclear bombs, railguns and everything. The Rock is here!
What is that armor and how specifically did you get it?
This is literally how I'm building mine atm
Rock!
Rock and stone!
This is great Indypride! Love that you mentioned theme a lot and trying to honor the rp factor of it all. One thing I would add, is just mentioning what cosmetics you think fit best with theme. I know in this situation its obvious(most tbh), but I still think it would be nice to hear. Maybe that's just me, but I also know that for some of these theme builds you can have multiple options for cosmetics to match. Would love to see what cosmetics you think work best for these rp/theme builds(obvious and not). Thanks for the vids
nice.
For me, the best way to protecc is to attacc
Punies are so fragile that you need to bonk the heretics fast. That's why I went full heavy attack with the shovel (good balance between dmg, stagger and attacc speed) and the charge to rush at downed punies and/or big box of hurt to aoe kill/stagger everything in 360°.
Now that it procs even if you throw it on the ground, it's the perfect panic solving solution along with the rumbler.
Dakka spec is fun but you burn so much ammo that it should be called "I need more boolets !!! "
And nothing is as satisfying as bonking crushers and other flak armoured and cutting horde like grass
Dude the shovel is so badass now i love it.
Need to try this build! Looks so versatile
when you were like "8 crushers and a daemonhost just do this" i was like "uhh are you sure?" but the mad man pulled it off
0:35 To była najbardziej satysfakcjonująca śmierć jaką widziałem w grze
Biggest, is bestest.
-Ogryn proverb
Throwing rocks at full tilt mutants will never not be funny xD
Seeing 25toughness skipped over 15toughneess hurt my brain
i is ogryn, not smart sah
no worry, not much in me brain eitha sah
. @@milkandcookiesTW
how do you acivate the psykhaneum, to made it active so the mobs moving and attacking?
It's a mod I believe.
Rock and stone bro
Don't yell Kobe, yell Cobain, he never missed a shot! :D
Those ragdolls remind me of Half-Life: Full Life Consequences
How do you get the bullgryn armor set? I assume it was a special unlock of somekind, and I just wanna know if I can get it.
premium currency my boi
yeah i just got it with the initial aquilas from premium
If i wanted to switch the grenade gauntlet for a heavy stubber would it still be as effective? or is grenade my best bet
the Grenadier gauntlet is more for thematics than anything else, as Bullgryns in the lore use slab shield + grenadier gauntlet. But realistically, GG is one of your better choices with this loadout. Heavy Stubber is best used with Gunlugger down the right side of the tree, where it has crazy synergy with the reload speed talents and Incendiary rounds and extra ammo. it would be okay with this setup I guess, but I think it would be worse
Big boi is best boi
I don’t know how but when I tried to use your build my gauntlet ended up doing double damage more and the shield and club
Really been considering downloading Darktide again to see if I can get into it more, all the vids of the new stuff seem fun. I just think my PC might still be too poo lol.
I've got all 4 classes to 30 on a steamdeck and regularly play damnation. The only frame issues I have anynore are caused by smite psykers, but I hear that's a problem for even better pc builds. Don't know if it's a bug but a smite blast in a horde will drop me to 10 fps when I normally have a fairly stable 40. Hope they fix it but it's to the point I'll leave a mission if a smite psyker joins the lobby. Otherwise, game runs way better than it used to. I played at beta on a decent gaming rig and the crashes/performance issues were a nightmare
Ive given it another go and I can run it a lot better than at launch. Im running it on low rn but I feel I could bump it up to medium cause I haven't had any issues so far.@@darkwolf860
Rock is fun, I don’t run it with the bullgryn since the GG can one shot muties with PPT now
Why take the +15 toughness boost over the +25?
Please make a flamer build for zealot next. I'm trying to make a fire main zealot build and I'm having trouble
Trying to leave you a build but the link keeps dropping. Email?
what do you know about the next update?
Missed a chance to insert sound clip, Metal Slug "STONE!"
I did this build but swap out
*toughness damage reduction for 10%* - *Payback* (for 25% damage increase if I take melee damage)
*+15% toughness* - *Soften them up* (15% damage increase to enemy)
*unstoppable* - *attention seeker* (only to get payback)(also *unstoppable* only gives a increase of 10% when the stack is max so you only get 2.5% more toughness with just the *best defence* perk alone, no idea the scale with linchpin on top of it, beside are you going to have 5 full stack every time in a battle, not really since you got teammates killing them as well)
*rock* - *box of hurt* (to get soften them up)
*linchpin* - *Crunch* (for that 40% damage increase for fully charged heavies and I regen toughness fast anyways so don't really need linchpin if I kill the enemy faster that they can damage plus I can stagger them so if they're able to hit me as well when they're knocked on their ass)
and when I get everything going as all my passives damage multipliers and action multipliers, on paper I could get a damage increase of
155% increase for fully charged heavy (cause Crunch)
185% increase for fully charged heavies if I attack Ogryn type monsters
115% increase for normal heavy attacks
145% increase for normal heavy attack if I hit a Ogryn type monsters
I haven't add up the bleed damage, rend damage and impact damage only the pure damage stats on the skill lines, so the damage number could be higher on paper, but known fat shark there's probably a cap on max damage increase
I prefer the toughness reple and damsge reductiom from the feel no pain keystone. It makes the ogryn basically live in toughness despite having 500 hp. Makes you incredibly tanky and unkillable. Then I use rumbler with adhesive grenades for bosses, bulwarks and crushers while rocking a cleaver III for small stuff with confident strike. Soo much toughness replen that I never die and live in toughness. I carry games hard with this build. Melting monstrosities with barrage ulty and nuking rooms with my rumbler while still having my rocks.
the rumbler adhesive grenade build is super fun, especially on the Monstrous Specialist modifier
@@milkandcookiesTW definitely! Nothing more satisfying than melting monstrosities for your team. We had two chaos spawns in one game I played and actually pulled through with minimal damage. My team was amazed.
I tried doing a feel no pain with as much toughness, toughness regeneration on heavy hits, and toughness damage reduction as I could, so I could use fully charged shovel heavy’s to wipe hoards with impunity, but it seamed like FNP wasn’t working as advertised, “lose stack on HEALTH damage” it looked like I was losing stacks while I still had toughness.
@@milkandcookiesTWalso I’ve been having the same issue with jumping over railing, it’s finicky, but try double tapping while jumping, sometimes it does a animationless vault over the railing.
@@russellfisher1303 thats becauae of how toughness works. If you have 90% toughness when you take melee damsfe then you take 10% of the melee damage the rest will be taken from toughness. All ranged damage attacks take toughness before health but melee has a bleed through affect based on % of toughness left. If you have 80% toughness then 20% will bleed through into health. Thats intrinsic to the toughness mechanic and will affect your FNP stacks. But if you have confident strike on your cleaver along with all the crazy high coherency regen including regen on curios and good dodging then you always have full toughness before taking damage so dont often take actual health damage. Also makes you tanky against ranged. I have 60% gunner resistance so can tank 2-3 gunners relatively well while killing mobs. I dont use heavy hits. I try to proc the confident strike with light cleaver strikes as much as possible. Thats the key as it is fast hitting.
I carried a level 5 friend and a level 19 random through a damnation high intensity hunting grounds today. Was tough and twice everyone but me died (2 monstrosities too). But we managed it. Its a crazy strong build imo. So many crazy strong ogryn builds at the moment too. I love it!
The moment where you had like 60 G come at you with shields that's why I carry a rumbler it shuts that shit down in a hurry.
16:09 this moment I laughed so hard because it always happens to me.
I am the sniper.
Indy is the enemy.
The heretic is my teammate.
I must say, Ogryn and Veteran are my favourite classes right now. One for range domination, the other for melee. But whenever I use the shield, I can't help but notice that the attack speed, even with the heavy hitter talent on the shield is extremely low. Combine that with the lower visibility which makes it rather hard to hit smaller enemies. And since they still manage to clip through your body sometimes, I get more unwanted hits than needed. One thing I also hate, you can't use your shield special while blocking. You need to stop blocking, then use the special and the animation is another danger of getting hit.
Heavy attacks are pretty quick it's only 500ms, if you're on PC you can just get a macro for the perfect timing on every swing
I dunno, feels like chaos ogryns die way to easy in darktide. They're supposed to be large, strong, and incredibly tough lorewise. But they just feel like a joke seeing how easily they get stunned, fall over and die. They should be a force of nature, not a larger grunt. Personally, i think they should not only have more health, but be harder to stun and knock over, aswell as doing more damage in melee.
Ogryn is already incredibly hard to kill. Shield build especially so. Increased damage in melee is already a thing, you get at least 20% Heavy attack damage, more if you spec for it with the stagger talent and others. You are more likely to get hit by shooters and disablers, that is true. But the big man needs some disadvantage to keep the classes balanced.
@@Erdtier sorry i meant the enemy ogryns, my bad
agreed, the power creep has meant that certain enemies roll over and die quite easily. still needs some tuning, i do think Crushers and Bulwarks should be tankier than they are currently
This has to balance of a Ogryn and psyker then it being a major lore problem. Crusher will 1 shot veteran or zealot if hit anywere if you don't block. I do agree knockbacking/staggering should be harder. Remember we are still using weapons that can easily kill them no matter how much muscle mass you have. Also if enemey orgyn HP and knockback does get buff fatshark needs to fix spawnig and reduce poxwalker spawns
Don't worry littuns papa ogryn will carry ya