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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss Kansas City Chiefs GM Brett Veach praise of Patrick Mahomes. Veach said the win vs. Cincinnati Bengals “adds to his [Mahomes] already great legacy.” The conversation transition into Bengals HC Zac Taylor’s high praise for Joe Burrow. Saying the Bengals “take a lot of pride in having Joe Burrow.” The First Things First crew discuss the fallout from Chiefs win vs. Bengals in the AFC Championship Game.
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Dan fouts should be on that list just think of he played in the modern football !!!!
@@stevestepanek9148 Phil Simms even though I love blk people more than putting these white guys on a pedstal
black QB rule the league doesn't make as much money without its oil black people
imagine that people America will never like black people en mass
I'm black 1st and then everything else
“Every Sunday I was watching Baugh. He could spin it.” 😂
Slingin' Sammy?
Nah, you talking bout boobie titface miles
😂🤣🤣
Broussard is old joke haha
MADE ME UGLY LAUGH LMAO
As a Chiefs fan I tend not to care how he ranks as Greatest of All Time or among all time QBs or Brady vs Mahomes. Its just me knowing as a Chiefs fan this is the best QB I will ever watch on our team for the rest of my life, and I only get so many seasons of watching him, that makes it awesome.
Amen to that
Real fan
Love IOWA, fishing is OK, Hate the chiefs!!! But good for you man, I miss the days of THIGPEN!!!
Real talk!
You obviously didn't watch Jared Goff since week 9 lol
Not has Mahomes just made it to the championship he's hosted it 5 years in a row. It's amazing
@@sal4856 and didn't win at least 1 of them SB.
@@sal4856 not even worth trying to explain how football works with these Mahommes stans, they are blinded by people like Nick here giving him a reach around at any chance, and they just eat it up. How they take him seriously is beyond me, his lists are BS, and he thinks LeBron is better than Jordan....laughable.
He is Jim Kelly 2.0
@@Cocpain ... I think the jury is still out on Mahomes... but the difference between being 2-1 in the SB... or being 1-2... is a canyon.
Society always wants the next big thing... but longevity is what matters. He has the right trajectory for sure... and if he gets this W I think he has earned a seat at the big oak table honestly... but people said that about Russell Wilson too. Taking an L in the big game this year is a 180 degree narrative flip on the guy... double edged sword.
@@Cocpain How are chiefs fans blinded by nick wright? You're the one who doesn't know how football works. If you don't think Mahomes is the best qb in the league you are beyond stupid. Also clearly you take Nick Wright pretty seriously if you're here watching and listening to what he has to say. Took the time out of your day to listen to him.
Man i love this show supporting u guys from The Bahamas 🇧🇸.
Hello from U.K. doing the same have a good day!
Say hi to Eli Apple and the bengals for me!
242 in the building 😊
@@laneb5761 😂 makes a change from Cancun the Broncos and Dana White already camped out weeks ago there’s no room so 🇧🇸 it is!
Shouldn't you be watching soccer or cricket? Scratch cricket as you know nothing about that.
Best sports talk show hands down!! Constant great banter amongst the guys!
You only like it cause they ignore all the Chiefs "favors" they get from the refs!!
@@marlafowler3543 Favors from the refs? Spit it out man! When the flags at the ends of games are thrown, was there Not real penalties being called? Why would those be considered favors?
Finally a QB list that accurately ranks Brees.. 0 MVPs, 1 Bounty Gate SB, Stat padded in a dome for 15 years..
Lol yeah you trolling he better than Brady it’s okay
@@foreverfamous888 you don't believe that.
@@dylanallen7720 on god I do
Drew Brees is a top 7 all-time QB
@@foreverfamous888 Dome merchant.
Nick bout to be insufferable got the next 2 weeks lol love this show so much!! I feel bad for the ppl who take this stuff too seriously
Doubt it lmao
Exactly lol
I actually didn't make that graphic but appreciate the shout
BEST SPORTS SHOW PERIOD!
maybe...
@@deshundillard1337 Too white for you?
@@petep5207 maybe...
They've definitely gotten better since Wildes came to the show and took over as the host. This and Undisputed keep my attention on live and TH-cam when I miss it. Speak misses Wiley, him and Acho were great together. The Herd was better with Joy Taylor to me.
@@deshundillard1337 Brew is black enough 😂
The way Wildes said ”Made SB” got me cracking up 😂😂 “Who Did his?” 🤣🤣
Yeah he shouldve just admitted to all the cheating instead hu lol!
Dang literally first....love this content. FTF by far my favorite sports analysis show to watch.
"these guys have the best chemistry on tv" -- demonza's burner account
😂😂😂😂
Finally someone says it
Lmfaoo on god I’m sick of seeing that comment every video we get it.
🤣🤣🤣
@@marianoortega6725 i swear to GOD lmao
One LEG. One LEGacy. One LEGend.
We Coming 💛🖤
superb, great points about Brown & Koufax
Brees and Big Ben are legends
Brees is a dome merchant
Big Ben is a legendary grapist.
@@mattg3135 😂😂😂😂😂
Big ben is above mahomes
@@tonygonzalez9882 Joe cool,Brady and Duke is above Mahomes
As a child, Johnny U was in every sports book in my school library. The history of this man is hard to ignore. Possibly the first QB superstar. These guys should know better.
The Mayor of Fair lashing out at subordinates...
🤣😂🤣😂😭
Just getting to the Super Bowl is a remarkable accomplishment and must be treated as such.
Agreed… but as Nick said… it’s something like 10% of the credit as winning one. So only the accumulation (like Kelly) really means anything when it comes to appearing in the SB
Lmao its easy to get there when ya cheat lol just ask the Chiefs!!
@@marlafowler3543You sound upset
GO CHIEFS!
How great are these guys. Chemistry and analysis are top notch. I’m starting lean nick wright side. Facts are facts. Great show guys. Keep it up.
No doubt. If they had a top defense, they'd probably beat everyone by 3+ scores, and not have to play keep away for 5 minutes before attempting a TD.
Cheaters, chokers & injury fakers are not great ball players... ever. Now that we have proof yall cheat, every win of the cheatin chiefs is suspect!!
Why do we only look at numbers when talking about the Hall of Fame? When we look back on a player's game, you will remember not just what they did but how they did it.
He's not just an all-time great because of the numbers, he's an all-time great because he's so entertaining to watch.
I agree, but also his stats are still godly, Aaron Rodgers used to be the best in every category in 2020, but now Mahomes is.
This is why guys like Frank Gore shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. He has the stats...but its the hall of _fame!_ Why put him in there if everybody's gonna walk right past his bust going "Frank gore who tf is that guy?"
Mahomes stats will drop if he plays another 5 years. If he loses hes not a first ballot but he is a hall of famer
@@tonygonzalez9882 Admittedly, Mahomes does have the best tight end in Chiefs history to throw to, but the guy is 28 years old and is still entering his prime, and he's already leaps and bounds better than any quarterback in their first 5 years. John Elway lost 3 Super Bowls, and he was a first ballot hall of fame, as well as Dan Marino. Baffling comment.
@@bens5859 frank gore was good
Receiver having free rain over the middle of the field is big. You used to have to pay extra for that.
I love Wildes
I actually agree with Nick’s pyramid. Steve Young is the most underrated QB ever IMO.
Most of these ignorant people have never even watched Young play 1 game lol
The main knock against Steve Young is that he frequently faltered in the playoffs, especially compared to Joe Montana. But if you look at regular season numbers, Steve Young is one of the only QBs in NFL history that you can truthfully say his stats were elite even if you compared them to the NEXT era.
Elway and mahomes are the top 2 most talented qbs ever!those 1st 3 teams Elway took to the superbowl literally rode Elway back there. His talent took them there for sure. Those teams had no business making the bowl!
Burrow is better he just lost he already beat him 3 times though we’ll see next year
@@kentayali 🤣🤣🤣
@@kentayali Burrow is not better, he just has a better team. Lol he doesn't produce the magical moments Mahomes does. He's a great QB, but his stats and achievements are nothing compared to Patrick's. Plus he's only been playing for 3 seasons so far, he could burn out next season for all we know. Mahomes has shown 5 years of consistency. Even the games he loses, he only loses by a handful of points. Literally only been blown out like twice since his start.
@@kentayali everyone always brings up how he has a bad oline as if the chiefs O line is all that better. They have Creed Humphrey and a bunch of mediocre linemen. Mahomes has had to run for his life several times after the snap ... and his line men in SB 55 were absolutely horrendous... but he still would have had 2 or 3 TD's in that game if Kelce and his recievers didn't keep dropping good passes. It almost looked like Mahomes was the only one trying in that game.
Elway is a dang racist though he played well but they don't want Jalen hurts to ever be tom brady 7 rings
Good list
Politc Nick with the graphics 🤣
Thanks for putting tua and the dolphins in the top teams tier
Great segment.
The dude is seriously impressive. As an Eagles fan, I'm pumped to see us try to take him and the Chiefs on. Big history there with Andy Reid, too!
As a Chiefs fan, I couldn’t have asked for a better opponent. Classy team and really good, too. Here’s to a good game 🍺
@@thestoebz as a cowboys fan idk if I'd classify the eagles as "classy"
Watch it at Big charlies saloon!
@@joshduncan266 you just salty the last time y'all won anything Micah Parson's mom and dad were a couple of years away from making the best player on your team right now.
You guys forgot Dan fouts if he was in modern football 🏈
They should make a statue of Fouts! Because that's what he'd be in today's game 🤣
@@jld593 😂😂😂😂 killed it
Rodgers a champion should be over Marino
Nick Wright on Mahomes: "He's first in every single category that he ranks #1 in."
Wow, amazing.
😂
He said individual
@@troysavage115 "Individual stats". I love this one. Ok, so is Mahomes completing passes to himself while blocking for himself? He's not? Because that's the ONLY way you could ever consider them to be "individual stats".
@@777zippy777 Ok, so following that logic, you cant have receivers using catches as stats, since they're not throwing it... kickers stats, since their not holding it....... you see the problem here?
@@ckmoore101 he always saw the error. They just gotta find SOMETHING Nick said to complain about lol
Steve Young should be on tier with Aikman....
The only quarterback that they left out that undeniably deserves to be on this list (without question) is Dan Fouts. He was an all-time beast.
John Jefferson f’d up big time leaving the Chargers.
When wildes said "did they cancel it that year"? i rofl
I'm here for all the pyramids *major pause* 🔥🔥🔥
Lol I love how "made afc championship" but Rodgers lost says "lost nfc chanpionship"
This man is insane for thinking drew Brees isn’t a legend
I get it but compared to these other qbs he isn't
@@jasonshenault42069 but he is thou
@@malachilindo5561 Dome. Merchant.
TY WILDES FOR SAYING KENNY P
How bout those Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiefs
Arizona on 3! Wooo!
Making 3 straight Conference Championship is even more difficult now that there's only 1 first round bye available...
Let alone making 5 in a row
Lmao thats ridiclous, you must be a teenager & never watched real football lol, MOST TEAMS DONT CHEAT ON LIVE TV LMAO!!!!
Nick has the perfect face for radio
And yours is for TH-cam comments 🤡
I 100% agree with the top 5 & that order 😤
Mahomes definitely has a top 10 argument but top 5 is early still for greatest. He's definitely top 5 talent.
he, makes sure the league gets money
First chiefs are number one
God bless everyone and have a good day.,
Wow Nick!!!
Atta boy!! You were actually intellectually honest about this quarterback pyramid!!
Great job!!
Athletes didn’t started getting dinged for losing in the championship round until Jordan.
and? I don't hero worship these athletes they don't tell me what to think
Final 4 for 5 yrs in a row is pretty impressive
Patrick is the best QB ever.. the other guys are the most accomplished qbs. The context and terms matter
“100 percent… that’s pretty good”
Idk man that Asian guy has 101%
Kurt Warner was bagging groceries then went and won 2 rings with (The Greatest Show On Turf) and almost got a 3rd with the Cards.. The man is a LIVING LEGEND‼️🗣Period‼️Oh and I'ma born & raised Duuuuuuuuuuvallllllllllll Jags fan🙏🏿
Warner one 1 and lost 1 with St Louis.... and lost one with the Cards. He's 1-2 all time. But yea his story is crazy!
@@lakeozarkrei3767 ok so I'm off a lil bit but u can't tell me that going from bagging groceries to even playing in the NFL let alone going to 3 Super Bowls ain't Legendary🤷🏽♂️
@Yung 5Hun Yea... they say his short stint in the Arena League turned his career around. Made him learn how to read defenses quick. And then obviously Trent Green going down pre season... he was right place, right time and like you said the rest is Legendary👍
I had the biggest crush on Kurt when he was playing lmao....
@@marlafowler3543
So u must've really enjoyed watching him present Mahomes with his second MVP award. It was even better watching Mahomes break the MVP Curse to be the first QB since Kurt Warner to win MVP, the SB & SBMVP!😎🎉🎊
I can't argue the pyramid that's fair
This is probably the best list nick has ever put together 💯💯👏🏾👏🏾🗣️🗣️☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
Burrow who? Him and Josh gonna keep playing musical chairs with second place.
That's right, Macaulay Culkin is out!
Mahomes is transcendent and transcendent players often find ways to win when they aren't pose to, this another opportunity to shut up the doubters
I'm not doubting Mahomes' greatness, I'm simply doubting all the morons who are calling a guy GOAT who doesn't even have 2 super bowl wins yet. And by that I mean, I'm doubting those people when they tell me that they WEREN'T dropped on their heads as children multiple times.
@@777zippy777 I get that, but I think a lot of what my football knowledge tells me is that if he gets that second he's in rarefied air
@@777zippy777 Mahomes is top 15 all time right now. With a 2nd ring he'll jump into the top 10. With a 3rd ring he passes Manning, 4th ring Montana, and a 7th ring -- with his current per game stats -- Tom Brady.
@@157jtm That's another way to look at it. It really just comes down to whatever criteria you decide to go with. And it's all opinion-based anyway, so..... what'cha gonna do?
@@157jtm Yeah top 15 is better than saying top 5. If you have protection which he does you can get away with not having elite WRs like Brady did. Remember him losing his starting OL and he couldn't do this with Kelce and Tyreek. It's not like JuJu and MVS were trash, they were starters in Pittsburgh and Green Bay. But to be all-time great with Brady, Montana, and Manning the body of work has to be much bigger.
If getting to the conference final game carries so much weight for you, then where is Donavon McNabb on your list? Kenny Stabler? Fran Tarkenton?
gucci tie
The kid has the kind of skill and talent we all just love to watch - irrespective of anything else.
Hes a cheater, a choker & an injury faker lmao.
@@marlafowler3543 - cryer.
Is Mahomes really ahead of Rodgers?? 👀
Abso-fuking-lutely
Yes…. Your welcome
Yep 👍
@@petep5207 You guys are victims of recency bias. 🤣
Duh
10:00 only two teams to make more than 4 straight conference finals: the Patriots 2011-2018 and currently the Chiefs 2018-present
That's a fair ranking imo.
it don't help society at large this a distraction the world major issues going on in the U.S
Why can’t nick wright have this type of logic with basketball?
because it not his thing
Nick Wright takes is so right man. It’s ridiculous lol
Yes, everyone loves the commenters who like their team lmao duhhh
Is that Tom Green?
He is different from the other kids folks. 3 WR down, playing with rookies and an ancle inkury. Patrick Mahomes is The greatest ever because he doesn't need everything to be perfect on his team to succeed like Tom Brady (Wr's, O- Line D-line...etc). Lost Tyreek and got even more lethal . The greatest always do things you just cannot explain (lionel MESSI). That wow facter.
I think Mahomes will end in the top 3 at #2 with 3-4 SB wins.
If he gets 4 rings then he is undisputed #2.
The only person that could have any sort of argument against him by then is Brady.
@@askmeificare5557 That's why I have him at #2 lol.
@@NickSibz Either you updated that or I need to pace myself.
Not sure why you wouldn't just say Top 2 lmao
@@askmeificare5557 That's my original comment and I worded it like that since it depends on how many SBs he ends with.
@@NickSibz Even at 3 SBs he's still better than Bradshaw and Montana. Definitely better than Aikman.
My gut feeling tells me Mahomes about to throw for 7TD 400 yard superbowl
I would love nothing more than for Mahomes to absolutely dominate the Super Bowl
His superbowl qb rating so far is 65.
I wish but that’s not gonna happen
@@BryonLetterman I suppose it depends on how large the bag of cash is that the Chiefs owner is going to hand to the head referee prior to kickoff.
@@777zippy777 still crying??
This list is cute but lets cut to the chase,by the end of Mahomes long career he will be on a list with Jordan, Ali, and such for greatest athlete of all time
Don’t bet the house on it. Injuries happen more often than not.
that last step is weird....
If Mahomes wins the SB in two weeks, he's top 5 without a doubt. If he continues this level of play for another decade, he'll only be rivaled by Brady.
No, no he's not. Top 5 already? How about we wait.
@@boochtron definitely top 7 at least and he's right if he wins the SB he is top 5 easily.
@@boochtron nobody wants to wait lol. I don’t get it.
@@gameoftradez4526 It's just so early in the career. I mean he MIGHT be. I remember when some people wanted to make an argument Drew Brees could be top 5. Now Nick had him so far down the list. Rodgers I was told for a long time was top 5 without question. I have Mahomes below Marino and Favre for now. Maybe Rodgers too. I just need more.
Name 5 great QB's whose careers ended decades ago lmfao....yeah, didnt think u could lol. Players were much tougher, & left their special needs family members at home back then lol
He has ONE SB bruh
BOUT TO HAVE 2 BRUH
You missed the whole point kid... sad...😅
No qb who only has 2 rings after playing for 10+ years should even be compared to Mahomes right now.. frfr
Warren Moon is a Legend FYTB!
Who??
I’m from Cleveland lmaoooo
I don’t think it makes sense saying a player in basketball can control so much more of the game then a quarterback… because that also works inversely. Yeah the best player can affect the game more but the worst players on your team also affect the game more than in football.
@Ray Donovn exactly. Tom Brady can manipulate his teams TOP by playing well and keeping the ball. And there’s not one offensive possession where he doesn’t touch the ball or make the decision of where to go with it. A basketball player is timed, 24 seconds. They can’t manipulate TOP. And the entire game other ppl will be making offensive decisions whether he runs point or not. They’ll decide to shoot, pass or dribble.
And Bball players play maybe 38-40 mins a in the playoffs and using LeBron as an example his team normally gets outscored that entire time he’s sitting.
I was backing the Chiefs from the first snap this season. 🤩
Who likes cheaters, then brags about it lol?!
Titans could be in next afc championship game with just 6 signs(not qb) 2 o line_1cb_1Lb_1 pass rusher_1 elite WR
Burrow needs to be a better leader and reign in his crew of loudmouth nitwits. They put a target on him and he got beat by a dude on one leg.
So Ben and Brees ain’t legends lol okay Nick
Ben is overrated, just like Mike Tomlin. Choked MULTIPLE times with loaded squads.
It's so hard to compare QBs of different eras but I have to admit I've never really understood the Elway love. I know he's been to 5 Super Bowls (and was awful in 3 of them okay in the other 2) and I know QB stats from the 80s can't be compared to today but even comparing him to the other guys in the 80s and 90s and he doesn't look very good. Lots of interceptions, not really a lot of touchdowns, , not a high completion percentage, decent running stats but nothing special. I must be missing something. He won an MVP in 87 and looking at the results and both Jerry Rice and Montana should have run laps around him. Maybe some of you can help me out with some extra context that I'm clearly missing.
You're also forgetting to mention the glaring facts that QBs were not protected back then. They would get their caps knocked off just like any other player. Defense back in those days were much better and more intense as they were allowed to do so much more. They could actually touch the player without a flag being called. Today's game is completely different. Today's game is an offensive league. Please go watch NFL films, and you will see what real football was and what it isn't today. Those guys were actual gladiators, and it was much harder to be a great QB back then.
@@WadesWorldd I get that so I'm not comparing Elway's numbers to Mahomes or Manning but comparing Elway to Montana or Marino or Boomer Esiason or even Randall Cunningham and all of those guys look like they have much better numbers.
The thing with Elway is that he was saddled with the wrong head coach for his first decade in the NFL. Dan "3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust" Reeves had no clue how to design an offense to Elway's strengths. Elway's talent was wasted on Reeves.
There's a reason why Bill Walsh wanted to trade Montana in early 1983 for the rights to draft Elway. That's not a typo either, you can look that fact up. Now imagine Elway on the 1983-89 49ers... holy shitballs..... that would've been INSANE.
Also, Elway literally dragged the 1986, 1987 and 1989 Broncos to super bowls. Then he got stomped because the NFC in the '80s was a MONSTER. The '86 Giants were ridiculous (Parcells, Belichick, L.T. and that defense... forget about it). The '89 49ers were even MORE insane.
Like every HOF QB, Elway just needed some help to win a SB or two. And he finally got it in the mid '90s.
@@zeusonolympus123 Thank you. That makes sense. I know that was the strike year so numbers were lower but to also get the context of single handedly leading a team to the super bowl and the numbers are almost secondary at that point. Also the reminder of how big he was comparatively at that time also helps. Thanks again.
Ask the defenders of the time who they feared the most. The other quarterbacks in the 80s such as Montana had a vastly superior team around them. Elway was the offence until the 90s continually making something with a whole lot less. That was one of the better rankings of quarterbacks I’ve seen for a while although I disagree somewhat with the peyton manning ranking he should be in the next tier down.
😂 Nick killed them with the Lebron argument. It’s cool for everybody else to lose in the championship/finals except when it’s Lebron
Yeah, the media gives Burrow nothing but flowers for losing in the SB.
Arrowhead invitational SHOULD now be the name for the afc championship game 🤣🤣
No it should be THE CHEATERS & INJURY FAKERS CHAMPIONSHIP LMAO Chiefs made fools of themselves cuz they cant win with skill alone lol
Making it to the finals and losing does help most people’s case for a strong career. But there’s levels to this, if you’re going for best ever you have to win most if not all your finals
So is Montana your goat?
Not exactly. Going 6-6 in the SB/Finals/WS over a career would be more impressive than going 6-0, because going to fewer championships means you lost earlier in the playoffs more often.
This a Jordan,LeBron debate lol
@@kentayali shhhh don’t say that. People will quickly ignore logic and switch up their position.
@@jetsettech8804 at a certain amount of wins I think you could have some losses. But a losing record in the finals is a no go
Let's wait to have this conversation for after Mahomes wins the Super Bowl
Cheatin, choking & injury faking....thats the only way they won lol.
MVP Mahomes
What u saying jim kelly didi
The disrespect to Drew Brees is crazy
The disrespect to Drew Brees is CRAZY to me.
He's not better than any of those good ahead of him.
@@xcwilliams7980 casual
@@clifflodriguss122 Dome. Merchant.
Jim Kelly and those Bills had 4 straight. 2 many GREAT QBs Peyton,Brady,Montana,Unitas,Mahomes
The disrespect for Drew Brews is ridiculous
Joe, Montana, and Troy Aikman never lost in the Super Bowl how we are putting a guy with only two Super Bowl appearances, especially since he lost one of them even in the conversation with those guys is insane.
bcuz Montana and Aikman had nothing but HoFers around them. Chiefs weren’t even supposed to make the playoffs this year remember? stay salty my friend
I would rather have that
@@poindextertunes they helped for sure, but you can't take away from the QB brady had randy moss fools
@@poindextertunes no disrespect but you miss this point brady had black players that he needed as much as any QB
@@poindextertunes people are literally crowning. Kelsey the goat tight end.
Nick has clowned the Eagles all year long … hope the chiefs don’t lose or he will cry 😂
Question is will you cry if Chiefs win
@@RefundHD nope. I’m not an eagles fan 😅
@@zeusonolympus123 These happen to be my 2 favs teams so im happy with either result, there's something special about Mahomes finding a way in this 1 tho that makes me lean that way even tho i been a Eagles fan much longer than a Chiefs fan. Mahomes is a special player that deserves his respect
thank you for including the Browns 🧡🧡🧡
No one includes the Browns lol. They are the proverbial "red headed step child" of the NFL lol.
Aikman, Moon and Warner not legendary……behind Aaron Rogers ?
If Mahomes wins I think he’s 6th all time. Brady and Montana are 1 and 2 , Manning 3 because he won 2 with 5 mvps and played for 20 years at a high level during Brady’s run, and you can’t ignore Unitas and Otto just because you haven’t seen them play so for me they’re 4 and 5. If Mahomes wins a third he’s top 3
if Mahomes win 6 he 1st
he is half black he not even white
scratch that he is white to the NFL look at his skin color which matter in society he fits the corporate NFL you can't ignore it I am not ignoring race because I have black skin that is not racism that me being proud to being black is not a crime you can be proud to be white we don't white people we just say we love our people 1st and ourselves 1st
White people stick together as a group they don't have leaders that are out there like AL Sharpton he not a real black leader
he not leading me, and you can't tell black people that they aren't black if they don't do what they are told
Gotta calm down a bit. You can compare Mahomes and Brady to each other in years they both played, but it's really hard to compare QBs from different generations. Brady began in an era where a 1.5:1 TD/INT ratio and 3,000 passing yards was a solid year, whereas now that's not even a good year for a rookie. You especially can't make the argument that Mahomes is anywhere near Montana yet...if you are going to compare these guys, you first have to look at their peers. How much better was Montana than the other elite QBs at the times vs how much better is Mahomes vs his current peers (which he is clearly the best atm)...It's this prisoner of the moment mindset that has left guys like Dan Marino in the dust for best regular season QB. People seem to forget that he was putting up stats that nearly DOUBLED other starters numbers - that would be the equivalent to Mahomes throwing for 7,500 yrds and 65+ tds.
“So can I interest you guys in a quarterback pyramid?”