13 Bible Contradictions refuted: Evidence for the Bible pt19
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- Specific contradictions regarding the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ as told in the 4 gospels.
This is video 19 in an extensive series offering reason to believe the Bible is the word of God as well as defenses for the most common and most important attacks on the Bible.
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This is why Bible study is So important. Satan works so hard to get people lost and off track.
Yes Bible study is very important. Without studying the Bible I wouldn't know about these verses:
1 Peter 2:18 (Slaves follow your masters, even the cruel ones)
All of Exodus 21 (You can own slaves)
Exodus 20-21:21 (Allowed to beat your slaves)
Exodus 33:20 (Dies when you see the face of God)
Exodus 33:11 (Moses is face to face with God)
Deuteronomy 22:24 (Okay to stone rape victims if they don't yell loud enough)
Psalms 137:9 (Dash your children against the rocks if they're unruly)
1 Timothy 2:12 ( "But I suffer not a woman to teach, not to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.")
etc.
Can you prove that Satan really exist . Why is he invisible and why are God and Angels and Demons all invisible could it be they are imaginary
😂😂😂 I can prove sanitariums exist and people that believe in invisible beings need to be in one.
nunile18 or it can just mean they are above our epistemology and comprehension. Why do people believe in causal relations and the laws of logic when they are abstracts. Why do people believe in the Big Bang and science when science itself is based on presuppositions.
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Their are no real contradictions in the Bible we say these things are contradictions because people don’t realize the Bible has multiple authors speaking to multiple audiences using different types of literature styles not to mention its ancient literature so we can not force our 21st century American assumptions on the Bible. We have to read the Bible with the context of the passage and with all these things in mind and then we will truly understand how God relates to us in the 21st century
The bible is inspired by god , there shouldn t be mistakes
God is perfect tho. He shouldn't be making mistakes
@@sono8880 they're not mistakes though
They aren’t different styles, they genuinely all say different things.
@@adenjones1802 yeah.
Great job, as always. The only thing I would add is that all of these small variations are exactly what we would expect to find in true eyewitness accounts. The gospels are not theological treatises, they are real testimony written by real men who physically witnessed the events (or interviewed real witnesses). As such, the small variations in details should excite us, rather than concern us. They are actually proof that the gospels are what they claim to be: real eyewitness testimonies.
orlandiniyeah you clearly don't understand how testimony works.
orlandiniyeah Lawyer Frank Morrison would disagree with you. He was an atheist -set out to write a book proving the gospels as fake, but the evidence compelled to write the opposite.
Any lawyer would tell you minor contradictions among eyewitnesses are EXPECTED. Testimonies that totally agree tell of copying/ conspiring.
If you read 'Who Moved The Stone' openmindedly you'll find the brainwashed lunatic is you.
But what you fail to realize is how unreliable eyewitness testimony is especially when written down 30-50 years after the fact. It would be like us never writing a word about ww2 and deciding now would be a good time to write down what happened what you would expect is that there will be plenty of errors. Which is exactly what we find in the bible
@@flimsyjimnz variations in eyewitness accounts ARE expected, but so are variations in false accounts of events that never happened. This is not proof of anything besides that the books were written by humans. I am an atheist and I have used biblical contradictions as evidence against the Bible but these are the stupid ones that I've never even bothered with before. Same with the Genesis "contradiction" of which came first, man or animal? Doesn't really matter since it's just as likely a translation and phrasing issue rather than evidence for my point against the truthfulness of the Bible. There's plenty of evidence against the Bible without needing to resort to the third rate arguments he mentioned in the video.
Consider the resurrection of Christ. According to Matthew 28:2-7, there was an *angel* at the tomb. Mark 16:5 states that there was a *man* there. Luke 24:4 indicates that it was *two men* , and according to John 20:12, it was *two angels* . Which account is *correct* ? One is *not* two, and a man is *not* an angel. In this instance, the “differing perspectives from different witnesses” argument does *not* even apply because *all four* authors’ accounts *agree* that *Mary, the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdelene* were present at the tomb and that the disciples heard the account from the women at the *same time* . Yet, the accounts *themselves* disagree. *Why* ? If there are two independent witnesses to a given event, one *can* make the argument that they perceived things differently; however, if those witnesses *both* share what they witnessed *simultaneously* to a *group* , then the documentation from *everyone* in that group *should* be the *same* , even *without* having God *telling them exactly what to write* . *With God* providing clarification, there is *no* reasonable explanation for those accounts to *not* be in agreement. The argument for Biblical discrepancies being attributable to “multiple perspectives” of the authors is an absolutely *ridiculous* explanation. It is akin *two* friends going to the local dealership *together* , purchasing a car, *both* of them telling a group of people *simultaneously* about that purchase, and then…Person 1 writes, “Susie went to the dealership and bought *a car* .” Person 2 writes, “Susie went to the dealership and bought a *fleet of cars* .” Person 3 writes, “Susie went to the dealership and bought a *yacht* .” Person 4 writes, “Susie bought a *fleet of yachts* .” *No one* would accept that degree of *variance* in the narratives, “different perspectives” notwithstanding. And that is *without* even considering divine inspiration wherein an all-powerful, all-knowing being is supposedly *telling them what to write* and would have said, “hey, that’s *not right* !” This is *especially true* when it is asserted that said divine being is *not the author of confusion* . Was God *not there* to clarify and correct the narratives? Then, he is *not* omnipresent. Was He *unaware* of the different accounts? Then, He is *not* omniscient. Was He *unable* to correct them? Then, He is *not* omnipotent. Did He *not care* to correct them? Given that this would cause people to reject the Bible and cause them to not be saved, then, He is *not* omnibenevolent. Did He simply allow the authors to write as they wish as a result of *Free Will* ? Then, *how can we trust what they wrote* ? The argument simply *defies logic* .
I had a professor in a college class try to use the sign “contradiction” as a problem with the Bible’s inerrancy, present and destroy a straw man argument about there being 4 different signs on the cross, and act like we should be concerned. The more I read the Bible the more I realize it’s people’s sin and pride that keeps them from Christ rather than any supposed errors with Scripture.
What about God's sins? He has murdered more ppl than anyone else who has ever existed. Even tho one of his commandments is thou shalt not kill. Odd.
@@andrewberdahl9922 Murder is when you kill someone wrongly
God metering out correct, perfect judgement is justice, its only through his mercy that we are saved at all :)
@@plzifan3773 "perfect"
@@andrewberdahl9922 yeah, for the wages of sin is death, and all have fallen short of the glory of God.
Its a completely internally consistent logic
@@andrewberdahl9922 God is the standard of perfection he has all right to judge any and all, when God enacts punishment it's because people or a person has broken his Laws, for example that's like a criminal being angry for being punished when there are law set he knows exists but chooses not to follow them, the criminal is the contradiction not the Law
Thank you for helping to restore my faith or help it along as I have been feeling quite lost since leaving the Jehovah's witness cult. your videos are very informative
+Jessica Gonzalez I'm so blessed to hear that! I pray that God would give you wisdom and discernment and guide you in all truth!
+Mike Winger thank you so much :-) :-)
He only answered the stupid contradictions gullible atheists throw. Go watch what Ex-pastors have to say instead LOL
+Sosa Q since you say that I am only answering stupid contradictions please give me your best example of a contradiction. A real quality contradiction that can not be reconciled rationally.
Thank you for responding. I'd like to address what you consider to be an example of a legitimate contradiction. I'm going to put both passages here with a bit of there context to explain.
Luke 23:46-49 (NKJV)
46And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
47So when the centurion saw what had happened, he glorified God, saying, “Certainly this was a righteous Man!”
48And the whole crowd who came together to that sight, seeing what had been done, beat their breasts and returned.
49But all His acquaintances, and the women who followed Him from Galilee, stood at a distance, watching these things.
John 19:25-27 (NKJV)
25Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.
26When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!”
27Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.
Notice first the timing of the passages. Luke is speaking about the moments after the death of Jesus whereas John is speaking of a time while Jesus is still alive on the cross. Notice also that Jesus was on the cross for multiple hours. This description of these women as far off in Luke and near in John would only be in true contradiction if they were speaking of the women at the same moment. It's not just that I am trying to spin the passages to speak of events at different parts of the day, it's that the passages clearly indicate different parts of the day (one while Christ is alive and speaking and the other after he "breathed His last").
I asked you for your best example for an important reason. It's easy to fabricate a litany of bad examples which you don't intend to defend or hold to but when I ask for your best example I expect it to be really solid. I expect you to be able to give me a really good example of an apparent contradiction that can not be easily reconciled by just looking at the passage in context. But you have come up with what seems to be a very poor example which leads me to think that you haven't really carefully evaluated your own criticisms of the Bible. Your example requires artificially freezing everyone in place for multiple hours as if they wouldn't be moving at all during the time. Your example is much less difficult to resolve than many which I have covered in my videos and I think it should cause you to reevaluate how valid your criticisms are.
I don't have time to cover your other accusations about the portrayal of Jesus in the synoptics vs John's gospel. This is really just an empty accusation which is refutable but requires a massive amount of time and space since it is a vague claim about 4 different books and how they relate. I actually have 3 videos on supposed contradictions and I quote and refute similar claims from Bart Ehrman in them.
Finally, I think your example is especially revealing because I dealt with it in this VERY video! I literally quote that exact example and refute it starting at 27:57 (just click this time link to hear it). You might say "I didn't have time to watch your whole video" but I think this isn't the problem because I previewed every contradiction within the first 5 minutes and showed that I would be dealing with that example in this video! From this I see that you don't seem to care about giving a fair hearing or even responding with knowledge but merely attacking what you dislike. This is unfortunate, more for you than for me. You rebuke me for not dealing with "real" contradictions and then offer an example of one I DID deal with which is easily refuted. Whatever your problem with the Bible is I think it is spiritual and not factual and I pray that you would take a moment to reflect on the issues that are really causing you to hate God's word.
About the signs on the cross that are supposedly contradicting: It clearly states that the sign was written in 3 different languages (John 19:20) It is entirely possible that the sign was slightly different in each language and depending on who wrote the book, they may have reported on one sign over the other, perhaps even taking a sign, not in their native language, and translating its meaning for "greater accuracy" since the sign in the other languages left out some detail.
zxb995511 - Excellent point .
I know I'm four years off since you wrote this, but never the less good eye lol.
Thank you so much for your time and energy Brother. I so much appreciate this. God bless you as you help His children study at His Feet. May He prosper your endeavors to his Glory in Jesus name, amen!
Amen
The Bible or you read it all or you don't read it and the Bible is the word of God and the Bible must be read with the help of Jesus and the Holy Spirit
Every time I hear you, I feel firmer in my faith. you are doing a wonderful job.
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Interesting about the robe color: I learned that "purple" did not refer to a color but was actually a noun that described a type of royal dye that was actually scarlet in color.
Thanks for sharing this. It's very interesting. Again showing the colour isn't a contradiction at all
I am Greek and I verify what you say, 3 days and 3 nights means 3 days
We even have a word today that means exactly that "μερόνυχτα" = daynights
Μέρα = day
Νύχτα = night
1 day and 1 night = one whole day it's just a way to say 24 hours
I started to study koinai greek 3 months ago and I was surprise that is so different of the greek spoken nowadays. Even the way you read some letters is different, η for example.
@@Mett-iv4es it's beatiful , yeah ? just watch out for the υ before the t plz
This was all Greek to me. Lol … seriously though, if I wanted to go about learning any type of Greek and finding the original text.. how would I do that? I could google it up but thought I’d take a stab at someone who might give some good insight to not spin my wheels
1 day is 12 hours and 1 night is 12 hours. That adds up to 24 hours which is one day. People just don’t have common sense 😂
When Jesus said “do not cling to me” im pretty sure he meant it in a more emotional sense, not that he didn’t want Mary to physically cling to him. He was basically saying “don’t become emotionally attached to my presence, because I have much work to do and then I will be ascending to my Father.” That’s my personal interpretation, and it seems to make the most sense to me.
thank God for your channel bro. keep on truckin!
Thank you SO much for this video! It is the first of yours I have come across and I plan to watch many more. I am ashamed to say a couple of these "contradictions" bothered me and I am grateful to have found comforting AND INTELLIGENT answers. Many of my friends are outspoken atheists and I want so badly to learn more of His word and the associated history so that I may provide them with correct, informative answers. Thanks again and God bless you and those that may aid you behind the scenes.
I feel like an archeologist sometimes because I've noticed when I dig a little deeper for the truth, I always find it when it comes to supposed bible contradictions. Thank you, atheists, for making me work to find the truth in the bible. What they meant for harm God turned it around for a blessing.
I guess the "infidels" not only dismiss the idea of God but they also dismiss the idea of research.
Thanks Mike
@Larry CavalliI don't think so, I think livewireOr is sincere in his "Thanks Mike" and that the user is truly appreciative of Mike's analysis and research regarding this topic. I suppose it's possible that the comment was said sarcasticly but nothing from the comment indicates livewireOr is not sincere about his thanks.
@Larry Cavalli that's not how you have an informative conversation and he just debunked 30 of there contradictions in two diffrent sermons that are easily disproved with research he even invited you to bring more to him and your here mocking people in the comments, come on man.
@Larry Cavalli haha alright have fun I was about to rebuttal another comment of yours but so be it, have your peace
Bahahaha well said! 👍🏻🎯 🤪💥🥊
50:47 - 50:57
The perfect conclusion for this whole contradiction nonsense.
Thanks Mike 🤣
I'm an atheist and im here let see what you have to say
Lord Eddard Stark well, what’d you think of this presentation? I’m a Christian (now)btw. Wasn’t always tho I was raised Christian. There are things that I used to object to in believing in a Messiah but have had 95% of my answers answered and have seen other things, particularly in the Tanakh, that have BLOWN ME away. fulfilled prophecy, incredible order in the Pentateuch, etc that have really persuaded me. Now that i’ve started studying Hebrew, it’s the incredible order of the language as much as anything that persuaded me of the _super_ -natural quality of the scriptures. Incredible.
anyway, saw ur comment and curious what you thought of this video. Peace
Toothless Bull Dog 2.0 don’t know. sorry, I haven’t researched. But maybe I just will and get back to you:) Why do you ask?
Toothless Bull Dog 2.0 yeah sorry, haven’t looked at it. I will say tho, when I get a chance, you may get a surprising take from me on it. I’m convinced that the Israelite Messiah is Jesus (fulfilled prophecy, consistency of “voice” with Torah, extra-Hebraic testimonies, astronomical markers, and other first-century historical confirmations) but am at *major* odds with most Christians regarding Canon’s identity & nature.
To start, I place priority on the gospels of Mark, John and then Matthew over Luke. Most Christians accept Rome’s New Testament Canon - later received by Protestants. The Tanakh (OT) is a different subject but when it comes to the NT, both the Mosaic Law’s standard for scripture and Christ’s own words, by which he preemptively endorsed certain witnesses (namely, eye witnesses), have convinced me to accept as merely _edifying_ a number of NT writings. IMO, I think many Christians hold to many arbitrary traditions to their own harm.
“Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
“And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandments of God that ye may keep your own tradition.” - Mark 7
It’s strange writing this. A year ago I was not a believer, and becoming increasingly opposed to the notion. I’m a literature lover and so read Oxford’s Quatercentenary edition of the Authorised Translation (KJV). And I really dug into it. My mind was changed. Not trying to proselytize, but dang it’s strange to think...
sorry, I’m rambling. Cheers
@Toothless Bull Dog 2.0 This video was specifically about so-called contradictions concerning the Crucifixion and events surrounding it.
@Toothless Bull Dog 2.0
The later date is most likely wrong. In Roman Biographies, dates are changed for impact often. Thus, the date was changed, but the event is real. There is also the idea that Quirinius was misdated, & they match. Also the astrological data given suggests the first date, maybe the 7th year also. Odds are it was the earlier one you gave, with the astrologers arriving later, & thus their account was moved for impact.
The bottom line is the real issue. Can you say this denies Christ was Born? Well, no. That event is not in question here, just the date (a few years). It is like the question of Jesus' favorite color. It would not impact the narrative if you knew that or not.
Hope that clears it a bit for you.
hey dude, I want to add something to that part where you were discussing the apparent contradiction between Jesus not saying anything to Pilate and when He did speak to Pilate. I think it's important to remember that nobody can judge God. So when people are accusing him of stuff and asking Jesus to defend himself He doesn't respond because He is the Son of God and by responding He would deny his sovereignty. Jesus doesn't answer questions from those who consider themselves judges over him because He knows they don't have that authority. People say it all the time, "only God can judge me" because they don't see the judgment of others as valid (even though they are usually saying this in court and get sent to jail lol). Well, God is the ultimate judge and we must remember that Jesus didn't answer his accusers because we do not have the right to judge God.
I think there is some good stuff in here but I think the better assumption of why He didn’t respond is because if He would have, He wouldn’t have been crucified, His testimony would have set Him free. That’s not why He came though - He came to die for us. So He COULD NOT respond. This was clearly lead spiritually because there are almost no accounts of Him not responding to these types of allegations. But I love that you speak truth - no one can judge The Judge.
Fun fact for Contradiction #2:
Scarlet and Purple are close together on the color wheel. You can look one up online and see that purple-ish red color right between the purple and the red.
Kevin Li Please Don’t yell at me sir. Also, no. That’s not next to it in a color wheel. In the color wheel. Nobody is mistaking purple and red for yellow.
That's interesting fact thanks for sharing
This is a great video, sir! Thank you so much for making it. Keep spreading the truth, bro!
"It is as you say" is equivalent to saying "word," "facts," & "you got it right."🙏❤✌
I didn't think the "contradiction" of the visitors saying or not saying anything was a problem. It seemed obvious that they told the disciples but not ANYONE ELSE before then.
A lot of times through this I thought “why does this matter?” I mean, I know because they see it as contradiction but honestly, why some of this matters is just a testament to the heart that simply wants to not believe. I have never been bothered by whether the sign - clearly written in 3 languages - said this is Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews or if it says Jesus, King of the Jews. The importance of this is that they were acknowledging this was in fact The King of the Jews - even though they meant it as an accusation rather than His title.
@@hbenny5752
Is really just an excuse for them. Scripture is clear on so many things but they always try to find something to get them out of acknowledging their sinful lives.
I have yet to watch a Mike Winger video and not learn something great stuff Praise God, Thank you brother.
Thank you brother Mike for your passion and obedience to the Lords call on your life. You are very appreciated. May the Lord continue to richly bless you. ✝️💟🙏🏽
We will not know it ALL...the problem with learnedness is pride sets in...this is one of the reasons GOD doesn't reaveal all to us..pride..one up manship...etc
I’ve been listening to a lot of these great videos.
I’ve heard arguments like these in grounding classes I took 20 years ago.
These are great refreshers.
However, we must remember that the evil one wants us to argue with those to whom Jesus brings our way.
What’s the Bible verse that says that we should be prepared but present with confidence and love together?
Thank you for making videos like this and making them available to the public!
Thanks so much for going over and clarifying all of these supposed contradictions Mike. My wife and I thoroughly enjoyed testing our own knowledge as you went through each item.
I enjoyed this video my brother, thank you very much. I also appreciated your humor as well.
Lol. Smart man= agreeing with the women about colors shades. Good word Mr. Mike.
I know that always using "Mr. Mike" is kinda weird, but I know when I finally meet you, possibly only on streets of gold, there's no question, you'll know who I am.
there are no streets of gold lmao. enjoy your fantasy
I like this video most because it's all about giving lessons to the men who said Bible has lot of contradictions,hope those people learnt more from Pastor Mike,and hope to see the next episode...God bless you Pastor🙏
At 29:58 and 32:10, you say that Jesus was on the Cross for 3 hours. The texts say He was on the Cross from the third to the ninth hour, which would have been six hours. I'm curious where you get that Christ was only on the Cross for three hours?
What you say here is very true - critics aren't interested in answers.
Never ever anybody could show me any so-called contradictions that could not be explained as actually no contradictions in the end...
I can turn it around: "They can do that all day long, they never have a real contradiction...".
But the gospel say different number of woman and angels were at the tomb.
@@maow9240 did you listen to the video? It’s like this, I’m having a conversation with a coworker - “what did you do last night?” “I went to the movies” later, I go to lunch with coworkers and they are talking about the new movie “oh, my husband and I saw that last night, it was awesome!” Now I didn’t lie the first time in saying I went to the movies last night, nor did I lie that my husband was with me - i just didn’t tell the first person who I went with. That’s not deliberate omission or trying to lie, it simply didn’t matter. Sometimes it’s “assumed” the “disciples” meant the 12, while other places it talks about the disciples then He went with the 12 further. There were a ton of followers / disciples, only 12 were chosen to be The disciples. Doesn’t mean He’s lying when He says disciples - just have to read it in context.
@@hbenny5752 yea ok but your example isn't the same. It would be like saying I went and saw star wars. Then telling someone else it was star trek. They both cannot be true that is a contradiction.
@@andrewberdahl9922 sorry friend, in your example it’s clearly a lie or accidentally saying that because of the similarity in names. Mine is detail oriented - what mattered to the first person I was talking to and what mattered to the second were two different things - same story, same facts, just some where not all given because the first person doesn’t care and they probably assumed I didn’t go alone. Either way, I didn’t lie. In your example I would have been so, no, not like saying that at all
12:30 Don't know if this helps but, I see Vision (The android from the Marvel Cinematic Universe) as Scarlett but his actor always refers to him as Purple
I've always thought of him as red. Goes to Google images to check. Yeah, he's definitely somewhere between red and purple, so either one works.
Praise the Lord Brother Mike thank you for the the wonderful answers, I wanted to ask whether the verse which I am sharing here may be a reference
too(Scarlet is also often associated with immorality and sin, particularly prostitution or adultery, largely because of a passage referring to "The Great Harlot", "dressed in purple and scarlet", in the Bible (Revelation 17:1-6).)
Hi Mike! love your channel. I learn something new every time I watch any of your videos! I do have a question. When you said several times that Jesus was on the cross 3 hours, in Mark 15:34 it says that He died at the 9th hour which would mean that He was on the cross for 6 hours. Am I misunderstanding something? Thanks! Keep up the great work for the Lord!
About the reddish purplish robe... I actually laughed at this because it's the color me and my mom argue about. Kind of the color of plums, you know? For me it's obviously "visiniu" in romanian, which means "the color of sour cherries". My mom ALWAYS says purple. And then we jokingly argue about which one of us is color blind. I see it more reddish, she sees it more purplish. It's the same color that we see.
This "contradiction" is silly (like the others).
when detectives investigate , if witnesses say the exact same thing , (without slight differences) ...they assume that the statements are lies. There has to be some differences if the accounts are coming from different people ...duh
Agree. The Psychology of Witnesses is an entire field within psychology. I think many of these answers can be found when studying the psychology behind eyewitness testimonials.
Great point!
Really enjoyed these answers! Glad as I had been doubting. Yay Mike's team ☕
Pastor Winger, I've just come across your page and I'm loving it. Thank you for being so upfront and honest, nowadays that's hard to find in a pastor. Anyway, I've just started this video (June 2022) and I want to comment on point #2. The robe put on Jesus could have originally been purple, but became scarlet with his blood. In that view both colors told would be completely accurate. Just my thoughts.
"Three days and three nights at THE HEART OF THE EARTH" does not necessarily mean three days and three nights inside the tomb. Remember Jesus started to suffer at the garden of Gethsemane on Thursday night where He felt exceedingly sorrowful to death that He even pleaded to His Father to let "the cup" pass from HIm several times. Thursday night to Sunday morning are three days and three nights.
Jesus crucified on Wednesday. Had several Sabbaths n high days
But I must say, I really enjoy your clips. God bless you
Very much appreciated your reconciliation of Mark 16:8 with the other accounts. When you made this point, I said to myself, "duh, of course!" Thanks again for your messages, Mike!
Hey Mike, where can I find your sources? They would really help. Thanks!
Jade Stone In the bible?
For this particular video, he's going by the biblical text. He makes a couple allusions to linguistic peculiarities, but for those, you can only study the ancient Greek for yourself. (He does mention in the video, however, that King James is the only English Bible that still doesn't include the "cling to" translation.)
This vid is relatively unique because he doesn't need to mention outside sources, just address supposed discrepancies in the text. In other videos, especially the Mark series, he does cite Flavius Josephus's description of first century life in order to confirm similarities between the Gospels and life in the first century, so anyone could read Josephus's work to confirm the claims for example. (Flavius Josephus was a Roman Jew, so he had no reason to make up things in order to sell the Gospel narrative.)
(It's actually pretty funny, because his hour long videos actually provide viewers with more ancient sources than Misquoting Jesus, Bart Ehrman's non-fiction book, in which he claims that all the supposed authors were illiterate fisherman--even though Biblical only four of the twelve apostles were fishermen, and Mathew, Mark, and Luke were all definitely educated. Ehrman also ignores the fact that scribes existed in the ancient world, so even without Pentecostal knowledge--the first miracle cited in Acts--they would have been able to access scribes, Ehrman doesn't place a foundation for his argument; he says a lot of stuff: a pure quantity vs quality argument.)
For the past year I’ve spent numerous hours daily trying to make sense of the contradictions I’ve come across in the Bible, and out of sheer frustration and exhaustion I’ve given up. I’ve listened to theologians, apologists, pastors and regular church going people and they sounded even more confused than I am. They all had different answers to the same questions, how can this be? Isn’t everyone reading the same bible? How can there be so many different accounts to the same events? I have more doubts now then when I began. I’ve spoken and listened to various branches of Christians, from Catholics, to Protestants, to Orthodox Christians. I have a difficult time believing that the Bible was meant to be this confusing. No wonder why so many are leaving the faith...
The bible isnt really that confusing, it all works together. The holy spirit will help u understand the bible if ur hungry enough for salvation.. it's on u
*its on u to seek and to find
my answer to your first question:
Everyone is different in there emotional biases, their upbringing, their dispositions, and there receptivity to the Holy Spirit. Sometimes different answers are ok i.e. on things that don't matter, like what it says on the sign above the cross, different ways of explaining what happened. As long as there can be a cohesive way of harmonising the 4 gospels, it doesn't matter. However in things that do matter, you might ask the question who has the authority to say what the bible means. All these people say different things, they can't all be right.
Jesus actually gave the authority to bind and to loose to the apostles and especially to Peter, ensuring that what they teach definitively to be free from error. The phrase 'to bind and to loose' means the authority to permit or refuse permission, look it up. There is a lot more evidence from the bible, the ecumenical councils and the Early Church Father, but in the end, as I have found, (I haven't read everything, but from the bits I have seen) This authority has been passed down from Peter to all the Popes throughout the ages. Yes there are many bad popes, but not one of them changed a definitive teaching, even when they themselves were breaking the very teachings that the church has taught.
My answer to your second question:
Everyone reads the same bible, that is inerrant, but everyone is not perfect, we can know this from experience, that people make mistakes all the time. We all have our biases and faults, even just different upbringing and emotional, non-logical reasoning. Also as I shortly explained in answering the first question the authority 'to bind and to loose', to be correct (since Jesus said what you will bind on earth will be bound in heaven) How could Peter and his successors be wrong, because then it would happen in heaven. If Peter or his successors teach falsehood then a truth in heaven will have changed to a false hood (whatever is bound on earth is bound in heaven)
My answer to your third question:
The fact that there are different accounts to the same events, as I have heard from others, is an encouragement to believe that the events really happened. Since they don't actually contradict each other, i.e. if they said that Mary Magdalene didn't go to the tomb, and also did (all gospels only say that she did) If they had all the gospel accounts had been identical then that would be a cause for concern, because then it would seem that they had all colluded, and fabricated a false narrative.
some of us atheist do come to fully watch and learn the other side's position, can't learn anything new if you focus on staying in a bubble
@random person you are a true representation of the internet.
@@mrfuriouser you are a true representation of the Bronze Age.
Well said and iam a Christian
@random person Atheism in a nutshell:
"Some people are so stupid. They do not believe in what I believe. Hahaha, so stupid haha."
@random person yes... I see you have good arguments 😂😂😂
Thank you for such a comprehensive video Pastor Mike!
(B-) Depending on the context "on the third day" ment what we would perceive as our Wednesday the 3rd day of our week . Remembering that the Jews observed day 1-6th then the sabbath(7th day) . When you look at scripture through those lenses it becomes more clear. You do an amazing job in tackling everything beautifully but some things are missed unintentionally. No criticism here just observation. You are by far one of the best I follow and use to test my knowledge. I am very impressed with your work. I can't wait to catch up to present time being I'm still watching your early videos. I've processed over 60 videos in 2weeks I've been following you . Again highly impressed thus far. God bless you my brother. I pray with you and for you.
#5 ✔️ you can even see in the 4 gospels things Jesus said, with slightly variants in narrative.
#6,#7,#8,#9,#10,#11,#13✔️
#12✔️ also perhaps it was not the best to touch him, but in the case of Thomas maybe it was necessary.
12) Also, the Jews had VERY strict rules regarding touching dead things.
As a non believer, I thought you did a excellent job with the bible's contradictions. I am still not convinced though, as the contradictions are not the reasons I do not believe, they just make me laugh and wonder how believers can take any of these seriously but you showed me how it it possible. Interesting. Thank you. And you did the best job I saw any believers do because usually they make me roll my eyes, but for you, I was like : 'good job'. You were stretching sometimes but aren't we all?
You should see this guy explain slavery in the Bible he just flat out lies.
I can say the same thing about Atheists. They don’t believe in miracles in the Bible but believe in the Big Bang miracle
But I respect everyone no matter what side of the coin they’re on
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@@Jambuc829 An example?
You are a champion at point by point takedowns and rebuttals. Thank you for sharing! 🏆🏆 🏆🏆🏆
Thank you so much Mike
Even if there are contradictions in the New Testament, it’s only because different people wrote it and it’s natural for different people to remember things differently. Criminologists investigated into this and proved that in any criminal case testimonies will differ slightly. These differences are minor but the mane theme is the same.
Your god contradicts itself by hiding.
This is perfectly acceptable if religious people didn't claim that their book is 100% accurate and contains zero contradictions
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@@ghostunix731 respect the pronoun
I have heard the video, and read a lot of the comments. Amazing the attitude of people who will strain at a fruit fly in a barrel of wine, and still drink the wine. If I gave them a diamond worth half a million dollars, they would have it analyzed..and evaluated for it's value. And you know what, they would find it had a flaw or two, but they would marvel at their treasure. They certainly wouldn't treat the fact of their sudden treasure, (few tiny flaws, but not deal breakers), the way many here are treating the testimonies of God.
I really find it amazing what darkness binds some hearts, that some will relinquish the darkness, given a chance, but some just cling to it. They're like men sinking in a sea of slime and creatures, you throw them a life jacket, you send them a boat, but every effort is questioned for it's quality or 'what is missing', or 'what is it I am suspicious of here', or why can't you answer every question I can come up with?'
And they stay in their stinking sinking for the rest of their lives. Meanwhile, some appreciate the life jacket, and are currently happy and on a very safe shore.
We actually have more than a bible, much more, we have relationship with God, it is real. The bible helps a lot too, it doesn't replace God, never was meant to. But it is a book speaking of so many who have had their various engagements with God, and reported what He said. So, from one who is very much connected with a living God, on the shore, who once was in the stinking sinking, I hope you all end up realizing how much you keep your stink going, and obstinately continue to remain in it. What can be done for a person like that .. though God still loves you and reaches out, like He is right now . . maybe you might look at WHAT IS IT .. really holding you back. You can find that demons actually bring unbelief, but they too are just part of the sea, you can be done with them too. You CAN tell God YOU have some questions, and a problem with not believing His story. Be honest with Him, He is not intimidated, and will not get angry very easy. You, like many have, may decide to ask Him personally to show Himself to you somehow, or you may ask Him to help you with your problem believing what is said about Him. Let Him in that little crack of an honest heart, and tell Him you are willing to give up your stinking sinking sea, if He will help you. Then you leave it to Him (don't try dictating to God, pretty arrogant). See how He chooses to approach you personally, and offer you His personal love in a personal way, and melt away the skepticism that is so personalized in you that you have bias against Him. and you are asking hIm to overcome the bias. If you are sincere of heart, not matter what a mess, He loves to make Himself real to you.
I love what you said Yvan! They cannot know or feel God because they are so far removed from Him and are separated from His presence. I will pray for them.
Great work that you're doing my brother! I pray that our God and Saviour- Jesus Christ continue to bless you and increase you, and may He use you as a bigger vessel in His kingdom!
Father flannel thank you for all the great work ...love the Jesus in Old Testament episode
How bizarre! I was reading about possums and bushfires this morning and followed up a ridiculous comment....to Infidel's website! That guy is badly damaged :-(
Awesome!
Great video , thanks bro
Thank you for this series! You truly helped me establish my faith in the truth of my lord and my God Jesus Christ :)
You are going to need a lot of series, because here is only a small sampling of your problems:
THEOLOGICAL DOCTRINES
1. - God is satisfied with his works. - Genesis 1:31
- God is dissatisfied with his works. - Genesis 6:6
2. - God dwells in chosen temples. - 2 Chronicles 7:12,16
- God dwells not in temples. - Acts 7:48
3. - God dwells in light - Timothy 6:16
- God dwells in darkness - 1 Kings 8:12/ Psalm 18:11/ Psalm 97:2
MORAL PRECEPTS
1. - Robbery commanded - Exodus 3:21,22/ Exodus 12:35,36
- Robbery forbidden - Leviticus 19:13/ Exodus 20:15
2. - Lying approved and sanctioned - Joshua 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Exodus 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22
- Lying forbidden - Exodus 20:16/ Proverbs 12:22/ Revelation 21:8
3. - Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned - 2 Kings 14:7,3
- Hatred to the Edomite forbidden - Deuteronomy 23:7
HISTORICAL FACTS
1. - Man was created after the other animals - Genesis 1:25,26,27
- Man was created before the other animals - Genesis 2:18,19
2. - Seed time and harvest were never to cease - Genesis 8:22
- Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years - Genesis 41:54,56/ Genesis 45:6
3. - God hardened Pharaoh's heart - Exodus 4:21/ Ed 9:12
- Pharaoh hardened his own heart - Exodus 8:15
SPECULATIVE DOCTRINES
1. - Christ is equal with God - John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
- Christ is not equal with God - John 14:28/ Matthew 24:36
2. - Jesus was all-powerful - Matthew 28:18/ John 3:35
- Jesus was not all-powerful - Mark 6:5
3. - The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation - Luke 16:16/ Ephesians 2:15/ Romans 7:6
- The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation - Matthew 5:17-19
4. - Christ's mission was peace - Luke 2:13,14
- Christ's mission was not peace - Matthew 10:34
Out of all the actual contradictions you picked some easy low hanging fruit to address!
He said he picked the ones from a leading atheist website. I've certainly heard most of these myself, and they do seem to be the main ones which are brought up regarding Jesus' death and resurrection.
My thoughts exactly.
Perhaps you can make a video and enlighten us concerning the contradictory high-hanging fruit from the top of the tree?
He's made videos on more contradictory claims in his "evidence for the bible" series . If u care to research u will find it.
Interesting. The poor book has been corrupted from the start. How can people really know what to believe? I choose to just be grateful for every day to what ever gods may be. I choose to be good to people as much as I can. I think that is the heart of humanity.
Luke 18:18-19 "[18] And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
[19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God."
We have sinned, and are therefore not good. If you truly loved your neighbours as you love yourself, you would sell what you had and give the money to the poor. That is what Jesus taught us to do.
you need Jesus. He is the only one that died for your sins
Shalom and blessings Mike. 'On the third day'.... There was evening, there was morning, day one. The rest is simple!!! Every blessing.
Hei Mike! You are doing an amazing job! God bless you so so much!!
Those stripes on his shirt [the guy teaching] could very easily be described as either purple or scarlet. That actually answers the big "discrepancy" about the color of Christs robe. There is obviously a shade of purple [or scarlet] that can accurately be described as either purple or scarlet.
And what color is Burdeny painted car, is it red or purple, it is kinda both and depends on the light as to which is seen.
LOL!
Sorry to hear that your faith was challenged. I look at this slot like marriage. Divorce is never an option. Once you resolve that, things get easier.
Do this knowing that god is real and all powerful. Pray for the answers to come and they will. Mike does an excellent job and I would love for him to come speak at my church some day. It's in Michigan tho lol.
"Divorce is never an option." - Something tells me you've never heard of abusive relationships.
"Pray for the answers to come and they will." - When every pray is answered with Yes, No, Later. Then you always get an answer, then every Muslim also gets his/her prayers answered too. Guess the Muslims are right then?
rayisawesoem
But divorce is an option
Infidelity or abuse are options for divorce....
May God bless you abundantly you're a wonderful blessing in so many people's lives
I love your sermons thank you
you might also like Prof Frank Turek , Prof Gary Habermass ,Prof John Lennox , Josh Mcdowell , Dr Grady mcMurtry , Detective J Warner Wallace , Prof James Tour
Dr Stephen Meyer , Dr Jason Lisle , Trey Smith's "Noah" and "The Theory of everything" , David Wood
Each offer very interesting evidence and testimony in their unique fields , all can be found on youtube
@@travelsouthafrica5048 that's alot! Thank you :) I'll take a look after I'm done going through Torah Class by Tom Bradford and I love coming to Mike for when I need a break and want something light and fun hes got a gift for simplifying complex theology
Great debunking work, especially on the conflicting tomb accounts!
One account says the women told no one. Other accounts said they told certain people. So why is that not a contradiction? Because when Mark said "they said nothing to anyone," he meant "they said something to someone".
Here's a contradiction/non-contradiction:
A: The butler stole the jewels.
B: The maid stole the jewels.
Not a contradiction because when A said "the butler stole the jewels," he meant "the maid stole the jewels". See? No contradiction.
is this sarcasm?
There is no contradiction because the wemen when they were returning they did not tell or screamed that the tomb was empty because it would raise too many eyebrows, they only said something when they got into the place where the AP's where.
@@pedrojunior5996 You're making that up.
As an atheist, I think you have misunderstood atheists' reason for quoting contradictions in The Bible. You've shown that some of the contradictions in The Bible could have arisen by quite reasonable means. Which is true; I agree. However, The Bible is not meant to be just a book written by fallible human observers in the distant past, where some stories are passed down verbally for decades before being written down, with all the distortion and ambiguity that we'd expect from that. The Bible is claimed to be a divinely inspired book, wtih God using the scribes as his/her tools to send a message to humanity. In that case, we wouldn't expect contradictions, or errrors. We wouldn't expect science in The Bible to match but not go beyond what people knew at the time. We would expect the morality of The BIble to be timeless, and a major step above what other civilisations had achieved, etc.
To my ears, your analysis of the contradictions in The Bible sounds like an atheist analysis of the book. As in, treating it like a man-made book with all the characteristics we'd expect of a man-made book, and none of what we'd expect should its authorship be directed by an all-seeing, all-knowing, God.
Hence, I agree both with your analysis and your plausible scenarios for the causes of the inconsistencies. But, I also agree with atheists who list contradictions in The Bible as strong evidence that it is not divinely inspired.
Well, I think of it a bit like this. Imagine trying to write a book that an ant would understand all about humans and our society. Let’s assume they speak a singular verbal language rather than speaking with chemicals, so if we write a book for them they would be able to read it. Our knowledge is so great compared to an ants that it would be unrealistically difficult to simplify it to the point an ant could comprehend how complex human life is compared to their own. That doesn’t necessarily put a defense against your points, though that’s just my own thought.
I'm agnostic and agree with you 100%. It's funny how Christians will always say everything in the Bible is true because multiple people said it was true. Just because people say something, and others choose to believe it, doesn't make it true. It's possible people make things up and others choose to believe the story.
You are an atheist? Yet, atheists claim God does not exist, but you as an atheist expect the Bible to have no contradictions, because it is inspired by God. It seems your atheistic stance is a contradiction.
As a fellow atheist: Very well said, B Bibby. I agree 100%
@@jeanettepretorius589 Atheism is not claiming God doesn’t exist. It’s rejecting the belief in a God due to lack of evidence. And it’s not a contradiction to expect a book supposedly inspired buy God to not contain errors.
Interesting perspectives and points. What are any thoughts on the last couple points: The Touching one...perhaps it could have to do something with male and female? Not to be touched by a female? Or maybe it is not to be hugged or something? Other thoughts? , Also on the telling disciples and not telling anyone point, I wanted to share that from my perspective his answer seems to fit from my perspective...when I proposed to my wife (she said yes), SHE was very insistent that we don't tell anyone until we could tell our parents first in person the exciting news...maybe it's just her thing, or perhaps others share that perspective of how to communicate certain news... Thoughts?
Possibly she was on her period. It was considered unclean. So it maybe only applied to her. Not that no one could touch him, but only she could not touch him at that time.
Mike, I think I already know the answer to this one but are you going to cover the genealogies from Matthew and Luke? Also do you think that might be what Paul was talking about in 1 Timothy 1:4?
+kevin wynn I will cover the genealogies in the next video. I don't think there is a connection with 1 Timothy 1:4 but I do wonder what those "endless genealogies" were all about.
@@MikeWinger There was a tradition among Greeks that they were descended from the gods and they could "prove" it with genealogies, that's probably what Paul was criticizing, not any of the genealogies in the bible, or genealogies in general. (The NT begins with a genealogy)
If we read the Bible at face value, without a preconceived bias for finding errors, we will find it to be a coherent, consistent, and relatively easy-to-understand book. Yes, there are difficult passages. Yes, there are verses that appear to contradict each other. We must remember that the Bible was written by approximately 40 different authors over a period of around 1500 years. Each writer wrote with a different style, from a different perspective, to a different audience, for a different purpose. We should expect some minor differences. However, a difference is not a contradiction. It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable way the verses or passages can be reconciled. Even if an answer is not available right now, that does not mean an answer does not exist. Many have found a supposed error in the Bible in relation to history or geography only to find out that the Bible is correct once further archaeological evidence is discovered.
There are viable and intellectually plausible answers to every supposed Bible contradiction and error. There are books and websites available that list "all the errors in the Bible." Most people simply get their ammunition from these places; they do not find supposed errors on their own. There are also books and websites available that refute every one of these supposed errors. The saddest thing is that most people who attack the Bible are not truly interested in an answer. Many "Bible attackers" are even aware of these answers, but they continue to use the same old shallow attacks again and again.
Levi - nah, it's supposed to be the revealed word of god, infallible and perfect. Try Chronicles 2 36:22 onwards and Ezra 1:1 onwards. Oops - human compositor error............
supposed to be there is only one who wrote the bible --- GOD...though 40 or more than people contributed in the bible they are all governed by the holy spirit sent by GOD during the time those people wrote it...supposed to be there should be no contradictions as GOD is perfect all knowing GOD..past present future GOD knows everything...then why the bible is so messed up?? and FYI up to to our present time they are still editing parts of the bible to suit their practices and beliefs...a book which is written by your GOD should be untouched, unedited, unchanged....but no, your bible is a messed up piece of literature....
And these “errors” have been responsible for the death of billions of people through out the history of our world...
“It is only an error, if there is absolutely no conceivable way the versus can be reconciled.”
That statement is *only* true, *if* you *ignore* five basic scriptural tenets of Biblical Christianity. (All Bible verses are from the King James Version).
1. The Bible is the *inerrant, infallible, and perfect* Word of God. - “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” 2 Timothy 3:16
2. God *does not change* . - “For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.” Malachi 3:6; “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” James 1:17; “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” Numbers 23:19
3. God is not the author of confusion. - “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” 1 Corinthians 14:33
4. God *says what He means and means what He says* . - “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;” Titus 1:2; “And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.” 1 Samuel 15:29; also, Numbers 23:19
5. Man is *prohibited from adding to, subtracting from, or altering His Word* . “Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Proverbs 30:6; “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” Deuteronomy 4:2; “What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.” Deuteronomy 12:32
If you start with those 5 basic scriptural tenets of Biblical Christianity, it becomes clear that there *are* discrepancies in the text that are *impossible* to reconcile because no matter how plausible and rational any given explanation may be, if it is *not already* stated in the existing text, the Bible itself explicitly *prohibits* it. Bible apologists do *not* have the luxury of acting as God’s copyeditor, which is what many of the explanations *require* to reconcile the discrepancies.
Toothless Bull Dog 2.0
A better question is *was* historical Jesus born?
It is generally *agreed* that the apostle Paul, to whom 13 of the New Testament books are traditionally attributed, died some time between *64 and 68 CE* (Sanders, 2017). The *oldest* New Testament manuscript, Rylands Library Papyrus P52, is dated between *125-175 CE* (Taylor, 2015), which would place it 57 years *after* Paul’s death. There is, of course, therefore, *no manuscript* of *any* of the books attributed to Paul that was written during his lifetime. Papyrus P52 is text from chapter 18 of the book of John (Sanders, 2017). The apostle John is believed to have died at Ephesus sometime after *98 CE* (Chadwick, 2018), which means it was written 27 after *he* died. This also means that there is *no evidence* that *any* New Testament book was written during the life of the author to whom it is attributed. Again, the *claim* is made that the books are much older, to which, again, any sane and rational person is within his rights to ask, “how do you *know* ?” and demand *evidence* , for which, I repeat, there is *none* . The Christian Biblical apologist might ask, “How do you attribute the writings of Plato, when the earliest ‘copies’-not original manuscripts-are from 900 years after he died.” Actually, there *are* original manuscripts written by Plato that survive to this day. One such document is the Clarke Plato currently being preserved by the Bodleian Library (Oxford University, 2016) . The apologist might also claim, “Manuscript ‘copies’ of Biblical books (or portions thereof) are in the thousands and some written within decades of the originals.” However, the *oldest* surviving Bible manuscripts are the Dead Sea Scrolls, and *none* of the New Testament books are among them (Mattison, 2018).
Nevertheless, let us continue deeper down the rabbit hole. Most of the disciples were fisherman. The only disciples likely to have even been *literate and capable of writing at all* are Luke (the physician) and Matthew (the tax collector). Yet, is asserted that these *illiterate* disciples wrote the books that are attributed to them. The main *extra-Biblical* sources for the existence of Jesus of Nazareth come from the historians Josephus and Tacitus, and the Jewish Talmud. Josephus makes references to Jesus in his “Antiquities of the Jews,” which was written around *93-94 CE* . He also has a more dubious account in his Testimonium Flavianum. Josephus lived *~37-100 CE* (Poole, 2018). In Antiquities 20 v.9, Josephus writes we “…and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned,” and in Testionium Flavium, “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man. For he was a doer of startling deeds, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. And he gained a following both among many Jews and many of Greek origin. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day” (Bancarz, 2017). The first is widely accepted by scholars to be authentic, but the latter is dubious because Christ is shown more esteem by Josephus than is typical. Since we know that Josephus was not himself *alive* during the time that *Jesus* was supposed to have lived, we know that his account *cannot* be a *primary source* , but in the (questionable) account in Testionium, he speaks of Pontius Pilate, who *was* living. Perhaps, Pilate was Josephus’ source? *No* . Pilate died *~39 CE* . So, unless he relayed his first-person experience to a *two-year-old* Josephus, that explanation does *not* work, either (Biography.com Editors, 2018).
As for Tacitus, he refers to Jesus in his Annals, which was written *~116*, and he lived *~56-120 CE* (McDonald, 2018). The only modern writer who allegedly makes reference to Jesus is Mara bar Serapion, whose writing was *~73 CE* . He was born *~50 CE* (Rochford, 2016). The crucifixion is held to have occurred between *30 and 33 CE* ; therefore, the writings of *none* of the *best* extra-Biblical accounts were based on *first-hand* accounts or written by individuals who were *even living* during Jesus’ presumed lifetime. These writings *must* have been based on what someone *else* had previously either said or written. Interestingly, though, although these documents do refer to Jesus, 1) they refer to him as a man, 2) they pre-date the Dead Sea Scrolls. Finally, in the Jewish Talmud, there is given the account of Yeshu (the Hebrew name for Jesus), but this account is met with skepticism because the timeline does not align with that of Jesus, and at any rate, the text actually aims to detract from the idea of Yeshu/Jesus as the Messiah (Rochford, 2016).
The historian Gaius Suetonius apparently refers to Jesus (and his followers) in his Lives of the Twelve Caesars’, where he writes, “He expelled from Rome the Jews constantly making disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus…” though the Latin form of Christ, Christus, is misspelled; and in a letter to Emperor Trajan, the Roman Governor, Pliny the Younger wrote, “They affirmed, however, that the whole of their guilt, or their error, was, that they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft, adultery, never to falsify their word, not to deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up.” Pliney lived from around *61 or 62 CE until 113 CE* (The Editors of Encyclopedia Britannica, 2018), and Suetonius lived from around *69 CE until either 130 or 140 CE* (Cartwright, 2016). Clement of Rome (ca 35-99 CE), Ignatius of Antioch (35-108 CE), and Lucian of Samosata (120-192 CE) all refer to Jesus in their respective writings. However, *none* of them lived during the time that he is asserted to have lived; therefore, *none* of them is a *primary source* .
There is *no* extra-Biblical manuscript in existence that was written by *anyone* who actually *lived* during the time when *Jesus* is purported to have lived. It is acknowledged the *best* witnesses to the life of Jesus of Nazareth are attributed to *illiterate* fishermen, but then asserted that these same *illiterate* individuals then wrote the books attributed to them, the assertion of which is, in and of itself a *contradiction* . In addition, there is *no New Testament manuscript* in existence that was written by anyone who actually lived during the time when *Jesus* is purported to have lived. Therefore, there is *no manuscript anywhere* that is a *primary source* account from *anyone* who gave a account of what he or she *personally* witnessed first-hand. *None* whatsoever. Therefore, while I believe that a man named Jesus probably *did* exist, the overwhelming evidence supports the case that the New Testament (and the Bible as a whole) is a *fallible book written by fallible men* , and that Jesus was a man, as well. Some apologists claim that the authors’ *agreement* on the the *details* of Jesus of Nazareth *alone* is sufficient evidence of his existence and his divinity. Using this *same* logic, the writings of Euripides, Hesiod, Homer, and Sophocles are evidence of the existence of the *Greek* pantheon. Homer’s familiar Iliad recounts the fall of the city of Troy-which had previously been sacked by Heracles (or Hercules, to the Romans) to the Greeks who have come for Helen. Heracles is the main character of Hesiod’s Shield of Heracles, and Helen is that of Euripides’ eponymous tale. Also appearing in the tales of more than one of authors’ works is the character of Ajax, having a role in both Homer’s aforementioned Iliad and Sophocles’ eponymous tragedy.
Homer flourished circa 900 BCE -701 BCE (Kirk, 2018); Hesiod lived shortly after Homer (Gill, 2018); Sophocles, some 200 year later in 496, and he died around 406 BCE (Cartwright, 2013); and Euripides was born about a decade later in 484 BCE, and he died around 406 BCE (Kitto & Taplin, 2018). Surely, if the accounts of four people who were all staunch *believers* that Jesus was the Son of God, who obviously *knew one another* , whose accounts are asserted to have been written during the *same* period, were all purportedly written under divine inspiration are to be *accepted* as evidence of his divinity *despite* the *inconsistencies* in those accounts, then the accounts of four individuals who could *not* have known one another, and who were separated by *hundreds* of years should be *likewise* accepted as evidence of the factuality of what *they* wrote. Further *strengthening* the argument that these stories are factual is that, *unlike* with Jesus, for whom there is *no* archeological evidence, the remains of the *actual* city of Troy were located. *No* record exists of Jesus of Nazareth’s birth in the censuses. While there are references to Jesus written long *after* he is claimed to have lived by individuals were *not* living at that time, *no* contemporary extra-Biblical record exists of his trial, *nor* of his crucifixion. Though multiple locations have been suggested, *no* tomb has ever been *positively identified* has having been his (Mitchell, 2018)(Romey, 2016). In stark *contrast* to this *lack* of archeological evidence of Jesus’ existence is the archeological *proof* that Troy *was* a real place, and that it likely *was* devastated by war (Jarus, 2017). Yet, these tales are *dismissed* as mere *myths* while Bible apologists insist on the asserted factuality of the New Testament.
As an atheist I acknowledge that some contradictions are understandable with eye witness accounts. That being said this video doesn't address the vast number of contradictions that actually matter to a world view. I'm way more concerned with questions of morality than the color of a man's robe.
Realistically, even simple details should be consistent, considering the Gospels are divinely inspired.
Kellie Gow Please be specific.
@@joshuajohnson7413 Divinely inspired does not mean divinely controlled. There is a difference between being inspired to express something and being told what words to use to express it.
This guy is just a great teacher. Easy to listen to and understand and well informed
Brother Mike you an excellent job on the contradictions on Jesus crucifixion and resurrection
Stumbled onto this video by accident. I watched up till you tried to explain away the first contradiction in your list. Now, to say the argument is "embarrassing" is really bad form on your part. Especially when your "context" does not dismiss the contradiction at hand, but rather is the basis for it. He either spoke or he didn't speak. Saying that he simply answered question A but ignored/sat silent for all others doesn't change the fact that one author claimed he was silent, while the other didn't. Had both authors written down the same account of what he answered and what he ignored, you would indeed have a far more compelling story.
Furthermore, I think you have the impression that most people don't take the time to read the passages around the ones listed on the various websites, like the one you mentioned. I'm sure that not everyone does, but the folks that I know did take the time. In fact, that is how we came to find the parts of the bible that don't add up in the first place. Simply having the website at our finger tips doesn't guarantee accuracy, nor does it provide the full story which is where the contradictions can be outlined in a much better form. The web sites are commonly used as a reference tool to help expedite the research process; the reading gets a bit time consuming otherwise. They are just websites, not authorities that have to be followed without question.
There are no contradictions in the Bible, just people who want to change it to fit their lifestyles. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
Terrence Simpson Yes they are. You just don't want to see them.
Des Gardius 2012 no there isnt. You just need it to be to fit your "agenda."
There are plenty of contradictions. ou can use or try to use mental gymnastics to get around them, it doesn't work.
pete walsh the only people who think there is contradictions don't have an understanding of scripture. Not everything in Scripture is true. It's 100% truly stated but not 100% accurate.
Many people just believe it to be 100% true. With that mindset you would think it makes contradictions. YOU MUST DISTINGUISH WHO'S TALKING AND WHY BEFORE jumping to conclusions.
When you look at the 4 gospels themselves, they are written from 4 different view points. From 4 different individuals. They were also written to 4 different crowds. The only way to get an accurate understanding is to study study study.
If you truly read the bible, you'd know you're wrong.
Thank you!
A great job from Mike as usual. I do wish that he had mentioned that it's par of the course when studying history to first try and harmonise sources - even moreso it seems to me with ancient history.
Read the introductions to even popular works on Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun, for example, and they will mention the irreconcilable difficulties that occur in our (usually much later than the Gospels are) sources for these historical figures. So it's not just Christian apologists doing this with "our" sources, this is what historians do.
Mike , in all respect ; in the end you pray and ask for Gods help etc , but i hear that you only produce the lessons that your church has taught you ,
There is no evidence that you are really helped to be wise but you are immovable as to what is taught to you : dont you know that if you teach persons a truth that you are binding them with your knowledge : they must obey your teachings because they hold it to be the utmost truth .
But there are so many churches that contradict eachother
and i think that you on purpose skip (while you do mention but dont focus on them) some important texts .
that makes you a magician because you distract the attention of the people tosomewhere else :
for instance you read the text : john 20(you mention matthew 28)
Jesus said to her: “Mary!”+ Upon turning around, she said to him, in Hebrew: “Rab·boʹni!”*+ (which means “Teacher!”)
17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers+ and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father+ and YOUR Father and to my God+ and YOUR God.’”
You mention this text in trying to explain that the bible does not contradict itself but dont you see the bigger truth?
Very clearly here Jesus mentions that his father was his God and so this is a text rejecting the trinity that says that Jesus is God .
afterraincomessun very true.do you have an idea why he does not reply?
Simple Trinity calls God the Father, God the Son, God the Spirit (Holy Ghost) that isn't hard to understand why Jesus called God the Father or his father. Being full God and full human he would be his Father still and related to other fully human people in calling God his Father "Our Father in Heaven..."
Are you trying to say and prove Jesus isn't God? If so, what scripture backs that He isn't?
Contradictions is a wrong word, you should use LIES.
The bible is full of lies from the beginning to the end.
sorin stelian Could not be a bigger lie then the planet exploding out of nothing and finding the perfect distance and orbit from the Sun and then the perfect conditions and then the perfection of evolution, doesn't the first cause of something alive have to be living itself?
Viveca Williams Maybe it doesn't. What makes you think you are qualified to even offer an answer to that? Experiments have shown that in principle it is possible for self replicating molicules to spontainiously arise under the right conditions. Where do we have evidence that a supernatural being can produce any matter simply by wishing it into existence?
Nicholas Absolute nonsense, please show evidence of these experiments.
Nicholas What makes you think you are qualified enough to question the Bible, Mr. Internet troll? People studied the Bible for 20 times longer than scientists discovering a beginning to the universe that Theologians claimed thousands of years ago. And yet you ignore theses dates and keep being an Internet troll.
Viveca Williams I'm sorry but your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Like I don't understand what you're claiming. The Big Bang claims that all the mass in the universe was in a "single point" (more or less), not that something came from nothing. And the earth "finding the perfect distance and orbit from the sun" also doesn't line up with modern science. With tens of billions of solar systems in our galaxy alone, it's just probability. It's hard to say anything definitively with our only record of complex life being carbon based on earth, but it seems likely that the conditions for life (as we understand it) are just rare but not irreplicable.
Maybe you could clarify to me what you're saying so that I can understand?
Hy bro my name is umayya ali i admire you're videos how about having a discussion on christianity with you.thanks
Yes he is a good man but unfortunately he is a unitarian
Blessed are the pure in heart for they will see God. I testify that I "saw" God. I did not "see" Him his face as you would see objects around you. I saw that God is real and does exist. What did I see? I saw that God is Love. There was so much love coming from Him I was in extreme awe. (This was when I was crying to God in a broken spirit and I said please).
Are you somekind of Calvinist?
The Wild Card it’s true bro, soften your heart . Look at the beauty of the trees and of nature . Only something of overwhelming love could conjure up such beautiful masterpieces.. not just magically appear
Your bible and the Quran both have truth and lies neither are God's words
kendall carol The Quran is full of claims of "Allah", (Satan)/(Baphomet)/(fertility god of Saturn).
"Allah", cannot ((prove)) his existence. But Yhwh can. Because at least the Holy Bible shows an historical record of the God of the Bible. But,... "Allah" just keeps on ((saying)) that he's god. But cannot prove nothing!!!
I've read that SATANIC Quran. And when I went to sleep,.... a ghostly Egyptian woman whore came into my room, trying to force me to commit Adultery with her.
kendall carol Quran is garbage! Dont ever bring this filth to discussion
This discussion is not about Satan's latest device of deception called the Quran.
On what basis do you say that the bible is false?
17:45 I listened to this portion and unless I missed it you forgot a possibility or fact depending on how you look at it ..... for us a day begins at 12am or 12:01am ( some would argue ) .... not so in the bible.
A day begins at sunset/sundown .... this is talked about several times in the new testament and probably old testament .... and why in Genesis it says " and the evening and the morning were the [ insert number day ] and not . . and the evening and the evening
The colour named in the Greek text as porphyra was highly variable. The shellfish used as a source of the dye could produce shades ranging from pink to deep purple.
It was this range of shades that was meant when porphyra was mentioned.
The modern definition of purple as specifically a mixture of blue and red was unknown in biblical times and well over a millennium AD.
For the sign above the cross, John notes it was written in three languages, so each one could read slightly differently when taken literally. Like you said though, is there any real doubt they all refer to the same sign? Slight variations are expected when considering the testimony of multiple eyewitnesses.
PLEASE TALK ABOUT GOD DECIDES/ CHOOSING WHO WILL BE SAVED VERSUS PEOPLE HAVING FREEWILL... ive been struggling about this.. thank u
Jordan Angel God decides depending on what you have chosen.. if you have chosen to give your life to Jesus , pray daily and turn away from sin , then there’s no reason you won’t go to heaven .. however there are some “Christian” who believe going to church every Sunday or saying a prayer only when they need something will get them to heaven , you cannot simply believe in Jesus and that’s it it takes dedication to purifying yourself. God loves every single one of His creation and would love to see us all in heaven, however it’s due to how we decide to go about loving and dedicating ourselves to Jesus so that our names will be written in the Book of Life. Basically it really is all up to you
This is an awesome video. Great work. You are the best pastor I have ever seen.
Much better bible contradiction discussion to be had. Challenge yourself. Challenge your faith
Interesting, I looked up the greek word listed and Oxford Reference was one of the first sites to come up on google and said this, "Originally, a crimson dye obtained from some molluscs, formerly used for fabric worn by an emperor or senior magistrate in ancient Rome or Byzantium; in figurative use, imperial, royal. In later use, purple came to be used for a colour intermediate between red and blue.
Purple as a colour has symbolic connotations of penitence and mourning, especially as an ecclesiastical colour; in literary and poetic use, it may refer to the colour of blood.
Recorded from Old English (describing the clothing of an emperor) the word comes via Latin purpura ‘purple’ from Greek porphura, denoting molluscs that yielded a crimson dye, or cloth dyed with this."
Would you have a video on azaziah age by chance
There is a 14th I was hoping you would address (and one which caused a considerable challenge to my faith when I initially discovered it.) I refer to the variations in the resurrection and ascension accounts. Luke's Gospel stands particularly problematic to my mind, as he seems to draw a line of a single day between the resurrection and the ascension, ie. "that same day" of the resurrection (Lk 24:13), was the Emmaus appearing. Then, (v.33) "they rose up that same hour" (after supping with him in Emmaus) and returned to Jerusalem, where the Lord immediatey appeared to them with the disciples. He thereupon (v.50) led them out to Bethany and ascended, with the command they remain in Jerusalem. The apparent contradiction between Luke's account and the other three Gospels (which speak of travels back to Galilee and a forty day period of His manifesting in Galilee has caused me grief. I still don't know how to reconcile this, and it would be of little importance if it did not involve the central theme of the Gospel; our Lord's bodily resurrection.
I knew there would be examples that would come my way after the video was done, which I would find myself wishing I had included. While I didn't put it in this video I'd like to offer you my thoughts on this particular issue, for what it's worth. It seems to me that the heart of the problem is in finding a time gap (or gaps) somewhere in the account in Luke 24 where we can fit the 40 days between Jesus' resurrection and ascension and having justification for doing so. There are a few things to consider in building this case.
1- Luke is also the author of Acts. He writes, in Acts 1:3 (NASB95) "To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God." It's worth noting that Luke is not intending for us to think that Jesus' ascension took place the day of the resurrection. This seems to show that Luke is telescoping in chapter 24 (something he does elsewhere too). So, he doesn't intend to offer us an exhaustive account of the resurrection appearances but selected portions of that story. It's justifiable to think that Luke is consistent with Acts since it is in commentary on Luke when Acts says "over a period of forty days".
2- Much of Luke 24 seems to clearly happen on resurrection Sunday. Verse 44 or 46 could happen after a significant time gap but be couched together with the rest because it topically fits. This seems consistent with the way Luke tells stories earlier in the gospel (much the same way many of us would do if we were telling a complex story and just trying to get to the important bits). I think that things Jesus said are the most likely to be brought together in this way. It seems to happen like this: a story is the launch pad for a topic, different sayings of Jesus that all relate to that topic are brought together even if He didn't say all that on that one occasion. The specific words used (in the Greek of verses 44 and 46) don't seem to indicate that it was all happening in the same meeting but does show a continual flow of story.
I think that we have justification to look for a gap (given the comments in Acts) and at least two places to find a gap (in verses 44 and 46).
Please let me know your thoughts on this. I'm committed to honesty on these issues and don't think that being open about confusion or questions is a problem.
in Christ,
Mike
You make an excellent observation with Acts 1:3; one which I think will ease my mind some. I hesitated in even asking the question out of concern of damaging someone else' faith. (I prayed before pushing the Reply button.) But, I'm glad I did. You have a wonderful ministry in the word; may the Lord bless it and add to it. I'll keep watching and learning.
Awesome!
Lamp-Stand No witness will have the exact same testimony! It is a rule that if all witnesses say exact same thing... they are lying ! Every one has their own way to write and sees things!
If you read the ending of Luke and then go immediately to the beginning of Acts, a very plausible explanation to this presents itself. Luke's gospel was addressed to a man named Theophilus. Luke tells this man the intention of the letter (Gospel of Luke) in its opening lines, "that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught." So Luke's gospel was mainly written to lay out events of Jesus' ministry and how those events relate to the teachings Thephilus was already aware of. But Luke was never intending to give every event of Jesus ministry. But Luke clarifies in his second letter to Theophilus (the book of Acts) that there was forty days' worth of other things that happened between the resurrection and the ascension. We get some of those events when we read the other gospels. There would be a contradiction if Luke had written something like "And immediately after this, on the same day of his resurrection, He lead them out to Bethany and was taken back into heaven." But Luke never wrote that, because that's not what happened. There are 40 days that transpired in between Luke 49 and Luke 50, and he makes that fact clear in his introduction to Acts where he writes "He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God." Our 21st century minds want an exhaustive account that includes every event in perfect chronological order, but neither Luke nor any of the other gospel authors give that kind of account, and they weren't trying to do so.
The 3 days & 3 nights "contradiction":
Should we consider the possibility of there being 2 Sabbaths that week? The Passover Feast Sabbath (Wed. I believe) & the usual 7th day Sabbath?
The Bible is full of contradictions, but they are merely apparent in nature. That means they are contradictions on the surface.
For the Christian, these clear up with meditation on the word, but for unbelievers, they never arrive at a knowledge of the truth. The word is given to the church, not to the natural man, it is foolishness to them. In seeing they see and not perceive, and in hearing they hear and not understand.
If our gospel be hidden, it is hidden to them in who are lost, Satan having blinded their eyes lest the light of the glorious gospel should shine unto them.
Grace and peace be multiplied through the knowledge of God and of Christ.
What about these contradictions?
THEOLOGICAL DOCTRINES
1. - God is satisfied with his works. - Genesis 1:31
- God is dissatisfied with his works. - Genesis 6:6
2. - God dwells in chosen temples. - 2 Chronicles 7:12,16
- God dwells not in temples. - Acts 7:48
3. - God dwells in light - Timothy 6:16
- God dwells in darkness - 1 Kings 8:12/ Psalm 18:11/ Psalm 97:2
MORAL PRECEPTS
1. - Robbery commanded - Exodus 3:21,22/ Exodus 12:35,36
- Robbery forbidden - Leviticus 19:13/ Exodus 20:15
2. - Lying approved and sanctioned - Joshua 2:4-6/ James 2:25/ Exodus 1:18-20/ 1 Kings 22:21,22
- Lying forbidden - Exodus 20:16/ Proverbs 12:22/ Revelation 21:8
3. - Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned - 2 Kings 14:7,3
- Hatred to the Edomite forbidden - Deuteronomy 23:7
HISTORICAL FACTS
1. - Man was created after the other animals - Genesis 1:25,26,27
- Man was created before the other animals - Genesis 2:18,19
2. - Seed time and harvest were never to cease - Genesis 8:22
- Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years - Genesis 41:54,56/ Genesis 45:6
3. - God hardened Pharaoh's heart - Exodus 4:21/ Ed 9:12
- Pharaoh hardened his own heart - Exodus 8:15
SPECULATIVE DOCTRINES
1. - Christ is equal with God - John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
- Christ is not equal with God - John 14:28/ Matthew 24:36
2. - Jesus was all-powerful - Matthew 28:18/ John 3:35
- Jesus was not all-powerful - Mark 6:5
3. - The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation - Luke 16:16/ Ephesians 2:15/ Romans 7:6
- The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation - Matthew 5:17-19
4. - Christ's mission was peace - Luke 2:13,14
- Christ's mission was not peace - Matthew 10:34
Is all of Friday part of the Sabbath?
HOW TE SEE VEDEO IN FRENCH ?
Mary Magdelin arrived early while it was still dark and the rest of the women arrived later after or around sunrise.
Respectfully appreciate your video: have a legit question: the 3 days and 3 nights issue: you never explained the 3 nights. Even if the way you explained the “third day” scenario is correct (which does make sense), there is a third night here completely unaccounted for. Friday night crucified, rose Sunday morning.