Refuting Atheist Video: Bible Has ZERO Fulfilled Prophecy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2018
- See part 2 right here • Refuting Atheist Video...
Aron Ra (well known internet Atheist) made a video about how the Bible has no fulfilled prophecy. This is my response. We will be looking at what he said in context and will see that the Bible withstands the many criticisms he has for it. We will look at the prophecy of the suffering servant in Isaiah 53, the prophecy of the crucifixion in Psalm 22 and of the destruction of Tyre in Ezekiel 26.
I ask that the comments reflect mutual respect in the midst of disagreement. Thank you.
Link to Aron Ra's video on "Unfulfilling Prophecies" - • Unfulfilling Prophecy
Link to my video on the destruction of Tyre - • The Destruction of Tyr...
Link to my video on Isaiah 53 - • Fulfilled Prophecy: Ev...
Link to my video on Psalm 22 - • Jesus in Psalm 22: Evi...
I use to be a militant atheist in college, but found Jesus while reading Scripture to try and find discrepancies and contradictions. It’s funny how Jesus revealed Himself to me when I was actively trying to disprove Him… there really is no greater love than Christ’s love for us.
Same thing happened to Lee Strobel
I love it when God does that!
Same thing happened to me!
I have such a similar experience! I have an autographed copy of a Richard Dawkins book, just to give you an idea of my former atheism.
@@leestanford2452 that’s incredible, I was active in numerous college atheism and agnostic clubs and was rather anti theistic online. I thought I was so smart, blessed with intellect and religious people were dummies… boy was I wrong. I was so full of myself, blinded. The moment I accepted Christ is the moment I first started seeing life in color. I realized I wasnt smart at all and really didnt know anything.
I'm from India. A home to 3 million idols, and Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Saved me, and I see him working on my family!
👍👍👍
One day we will meet in His presence. I am looking forward to meeting all the believers who have crossed my path both in real life and online.
The late Ravi Zacharias commented once about the religious confusion of India: "India has as many gods as Hamburgers sold at McDonalds" he was a godly man, they shouldn't have canceled him!
Amen!!
HALLELUYAH 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I’m part Native American, my ancestors worshipped the great spirit but I worship the God of Israel because of Jesus.
I know some people who believe that the Native American Tribes are actually some of the Lost tribes of Israel. A lot of the Native American practices of oral history and worship look a lot like Hebraic practices. . . . Food for Thought.
@@JDStone-jg8cg genetically though, native Americans are much closer to Siberian and Mongolian than any other ethnic group.
+Blah But you don't worship the god of Israel according to the people who invented the god of Israel.
@@lawrenceharold8599 Nobody likes a troll. And since you don’t know how I worship the God of Israel it seems to me that you’re little “gotcha” statement falls flat. Save your pretentiousness for somebody else.
@@lawrenceharold8599 nobody invented the God of Israel, God is eternal and everlasting
My father’s family is from Ireland. My mother mom is from France and mother’s Father is from Hungary. We worship God and accept Christ as our savior.
@@KevinVang1000 Funny, oppressors of Irish and Scottish people also have same faith. Coincidence?
Accepting Christ is a work. Salvation is based on the grace of God.
Amen
Christ is every except a battlefield or where there's true pain. Hey man Aron has facts you have faith!
@@goranmilic442 every group of people EVER have been oppressed bro
I was secular and atheist, but now I worship Jesus
Why?
What convinced you?
@@tyrionlannister3459 I don't think you'll get an answer to that one. Or, at least: I never do.
@@BorisNoiseChannel
It's been 2 weeks, I infer the answer is either not coming or possibly embarrassing.
SAD
Were you really expecting a reply a year later?
I'm in South Africa and I worship the God of Israel because of Jesus. Thank you.
Me too
@@agnostic_man6943 hallelujah
Amen brother! Also South African. Praise Jesus!
Why?
Im Canadian and I worship the God of Isreal because of Jesus Christ.
I used to feel distain for atheists when they would concentrate so much effort on berating Christians, but lately that has turned to sadness, knowing that they are perishing.
Your God is an evil person then
@@Gta4isgarbage wrong. God only rejects you if you reject Him first. He allows all free choice, and will not force anyone to believe. However, on judgement day, all will confess his name, whether they were believers or not.
@@orvalstuckemeyer127 what do you mean by reject him first? Also How do you know that will happen. Where's the evidence?
@@Gta4isgarbage God invites you to believe that He so loved the world that he sent his only Son as a sacrifice to atone for our sins, that whoever believes in Him will be forgiven and have eternal life. You are invited to believe. If you reject the invitation, God will reject you on the day of Judgement. You will be removed from God's presence. God is love, peace, strength, joy, and righteousness. When you are removed from His presence, you will have none of these.
@@Gta4isgarbage by what standard you say he is evil if youre an atheist?
I'm 2nd generation Chinese Indonesian Christian living in Central Java. My grandparents worshipped chinese deities (and some of my uncles still do), and I worship the God of Israel and His Son Jesus, who came 2000 years ago as the son of a carpenter in a small town of Bethlehem all the way over in the Middle East. It's insane how far removed culturally, geographically and chronologically I am to my Saviour, but it is what it is. I'm lucky to have known the truth. Praise be to God.
But because of that, you can now understand the beauty the first Gentile believers had.
I'm a christian and and rationalist, largely a sceptic, and usually, I'm appalled at the difference in rationality between atheist and christian apologetics. Here, I'm so pleasantly surprised by your calm and sourced response. Very refreshing, thanks a lot!
Agreed
Me too😅
I'm slightly late to the party, but what in the world is a Christian rationalist?
@@theianbush it means truth is central enough to my faith that I use every known tool to eradicate false beliefs in me. This mostly mean applying scientific knowledge and bayesian thinking every day.
Go look up Aron's new video in response to Mike Winger, but this time he has help from Dr Joshua Bowen, and his biblical scholarship, he easily refutes all of Winger's claims on Ezekiel 26, Isaiah 53 and Psalms 22
I cannot keep from crying reading Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22. He suffered so much for us.
+Duriu Wulkins I cry when I read Charlotte's Web. The purported suffering of purported Jesus absolutely pales next to the suffering and sacrifice made by countless verifiable humans. Hell, even the god fantasy of the Bible put Job through far worse on an arrogant, narcissistic bet.
@@lawrenceharold8599 Would you change your mind to become a Christian if Christianity were true?
Seems like you got some facts there wrong, like God being a narcissist and betting on Job's life, simply for a good laugh. Anybody with a serious mind will know that the book of Job is about trusting in God in the midst of suffering, and God's purpose for allowing this to happen to Job is far more wise and purposeful than assuming this conjecture.
@@lawrenceharold8599 So what if Job had it worse. How does that diminish the pain Christ endured? Crucifixion was and is still one of the absolute worst deaths one can have, not to mention the beatings and the scourging he went through.
@@lawrenceharold8599 r/atheism
Yeshua is truly the root of David each psalm hearkens onto him
Former Atheist here, My Christian Wife prayed for me and God answered her prayers. He revealed himself to me, I witnessed nearly a dozen supernatural events. It took alot to get my attention. A demonic spirit showed up in my room one night during a bad thunderstorm, I could feel it moving around the room, images were coming up on the tablet screen as it was moving around the room. A message popped up on the tablet screen, "You're going to Hell!" I was petrified laying in the fetal position. An image appeared on the tablet, of someone lying in the fetal position, it looked like an x-ray type image. When I thought it was over, I got up and grabbed my phone, a blue arc jumped from my phone to my fingertip then went up my arm into my head. At that exact moment, the tablet gets a notification that read, "YOU SEE WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO SEE!". I tried to pretend that what happened wasn't real. I started having nightmare about me being Hell. Each one got worse. After the third nightmare it was really bad. I couldn't deny it anymore I got saved that following Sunday and got Baptized two weeks after that. Praise God!!!
Man, that's awesome! I'm glad you came out on the winning side, glad to have you in the kingdom, brother!
This is a crazy story! Love it 👍🏼
Is it weird that I would LOVE if this happened to me?
@@Justin-ShalaJC Nope not weird at all.
Have you seen a psychologist?
I love how kind you are during disagreements with others. It gives me strength and courage to do the same. Thank you so much.
Does it help you discern between good and bad evidence that shows the truth?
Truth is what the facts are, aren't they?
@@tyrionlannister3459 Knowledge without wisdom often results in arrogance.....
"For the things of God are spiritually discerned, and things of the spirit are foolishness to those who are perishing."
“Only a Sith speaks in absolutes” - master Yoda. That came from a book also and carries the same weight and tone. In fact all of the Jedi’s teaching kind of do this: Create irrational fear and discredit ideas contrary to their own doctrine. This however Doesn’t make the idea of the dark side any more real then the Bible does Hell.
Benjamin Holladay weak argument, historically speaking Jesus rose from the dead therefore God exists. That’s scientific because it’s historically observable just as Abraham Lincolns existence is observable
That’s the first thing I said when I rewatched this
Frieza Force I don’t believe that’s what the text is saying. The scripture is saying that the beliefs of the Christian sound silly to those who are perishing aka people who have rejected God. There is plenty of evidence for Christ. I mean you found this Channel so hopeful you’ve received some revelation.
Frieza Force no it means that their eyes are blinded to the truth. The Bible says that no one comes to God unless God draws them. I’m not a Christian nor do I believe in God based on my own sheer brilliance. God drew me. The Bible says that those who seek will find. If people are truly and genuinely seeking God they will find Him. He is not hidden.
"In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek Him; all his thoughts are, "There is no God." (Psalm 10:4 ESV).
Who cares?
Whoo! Truth!
@@josieshoxx how?
@@davidhatcher7016 Because a person's pride will block/ excuse the existence of God.
@@josieshoxx ha!
Demonstrate that
I am from Northeast India, my grandfathers were stone worshipers. We have all become followers of Christ. The British brought us the the Gospel in 1910.
That’s is very disrespectful to your grandfathers. Do not forget that it was those British that took over India, holding power of your people
@@johncaulfield8935 there are good and bad thing about the British. Had the British not come to India, there wouldn't be no India at all. It will be like europe with many different countries.
And we would still be tribal, worshipping animals and stones or whatever. We would still be hunting each other, killing each other.
@@FaithBiete Did your ancestors not build mighty temples and cities?
Bless; don't listen to the people here who conflate the good work of missionaries with the damaging work of governments
@@johncaulfield8935don’t got nun to do with nothing literally , they worshipped rocks 😂😂
Aaron really caused me to doubt my Christianity last year and I’m so thankful for this guy to come out and make him look like a jabroni
Doesn’t take much to make this guy look like a jabroni. Dude looks like the personification of Reddit
@@myrhh2260 no, he looks like the Spanish Govenor in Pocahontas
@@zacariasnelson5753 😂
@@zacariasnelson5753 oh
@@zacariasnelson5753 my
You helped lead me back to God and Jesus/Yeshua after quite a while of me being trapped in a depressive and nihilistic spiral. Thank-you so much, Mike. You have no idea how much this video has helped me. God be with you!
Almost none of the people who claim to be atheist understand the full implications. The only other option than belief is nihilism-you’re right. And nihilism is so obviously absurd and impossible that you can only accept it by throwing out every human sense and feeling.
Once we realize we must have a god, only one God satisfies. Only one scripture shows such astonishing complexity and clarity that is so clearly not human in origin. To put it another way: We keep making heresies because the heresies are more human. I’ve read every major religion’s scriptures and the minds of man are in so clearly in many.
God communicates for the present audience-how people are able to understand him- but also for future generations. The example of the bronze serpent was a simple act of faith to the Israelites, so striking that it slid over into Greek iconography of their healer god, was bizarre and almost contradictory...until we learn its other meaning in the gospel of John and the word for the rod of bronze leads us irresistibly into another prophesy of Isaiah.
There are so many other examples of these.
Welcome back brother.
Welcome back to christendom bro
@@baxleyc.blanton3364 If everything is just a result of meaningless chaos, and all life is just a bag of chemicals, how is there any purpose to life? If Athiesm is true, we're all just a cosmic mistake. Nihilism is just the logical conclusion of this beleif system.
@@jabre7761 No, no it’s not. Meaning and purpose is internally produced. Only a slave thinks it arises from external sources. And that’s the great theistic flaw, especially for the religious sort: the emotional need for SOMETHING to be out “there” somewhere. The need for the transcendental is the greatest crutch of all time. A truly stable person doesn’t need that validation to live.
When I was a young Christian, videos from these kinds of atheists used to torment me. As I persevered (by the Spirit) and grew (by the Spirit), I found that the most effective attacks against Christianity were derived solely from misinformation and ironically, I now only get reassurance of the legitimacy and truth of our faith from these anti-Christian videos. Thank you for being faithful. I promise you are surrounded by prayers and loved always.
Funny how that works. You can show that Isaha 53 is probably not about Jerusalem, therefore your theory is affirmed. If only that worked in the real world. I can prove I don't have a Jeep. *waits for the Audi A5 to appear*
Ah well, It was worth a try. Let me ask you this: If the prophecy did come true, how would you know if it was actually fulfilled and not just someone trying to mold a story to fit previous prophecies like the writers of some of the gospels did in several ways, one of which was by mistakenly forcing the birth of Jesus to move from Bethlehem to Nazareth because the messiah was foretold to be a Nazarene, which is a member of a sect and not a person from Nazareth.
I really wonder if you find the prophecy fulfilled if you read all the gospels and compare them to each other and filter out the contradictions that simply can't be true. Like, did Jesus shut up? In which gospels did he and which didn't he? Would it be suspicious if Jesus was only told to have been silent to his prosecutors in the same gospels where the Nazarene mistake was inserted?
Modern scholars found a way to explain all the contradictions and impossibilities in the gospels: they're legends, each with their own themes and value. Not facts.
Setekh I’m a bit busy today, but I’ll address some of your concerns.
First, you just did what Mike describes in the video as a “dump.” Throwing a lot of misconstrued information all at once in the attempt to verify disbelief with misconceptions.
The Nazarene comment. Even if people misunderstood the language in the Old Testament as a prophecy of Jesus being a Nazarene, this doesn’t remove the fact that He was born in Bethlehem (a clear prophecy of the Messiah).
Jesus was silent in regards to His resistance to His persecution, knowing that He must die to give us the opportunity not to. This seems clear to me that this isn’t meant to be taken so literally that He literally didn’t say a word.
I’ll stop there.
There are explanations to all criticisms of inconsistencies between the gospels, BUT I’ve found that plausible explanations will not convince most skeptics that the (small and insignificant) differences in the gospels don’t completely invalidate the points they all clearly agree on... Jesus’ deity, ministry, life, death, and resurrection. Anyone can convince them self to not believe, but in my years as a scientist, inherent skeptic, and follower of Christ, I have found that the evidence simply points to the reality that the God of the Bible clearly exists and that Jesus is Lord. He came to die so you don’t have to. Oppose this truth with whatever you can come up with, and disregard the legitimacy of the answers that address your concerns. But the Truth remains.
G Will It’s always worth an attempt to appeal to even hearts that appear impenetrable. At the very least, maybe someone reading the response will see that our faith is founded upon reality and will seek Him in response.
Paul Schultz _So...I will not cast my pearls among swine!!!_
Do you get this contemning behavior from your lord and savior? I would expect better from a role model who has never committed a sin, except for denigrating fellow humans and teaching it to be a virtue apparently.
G Will The point flew right past you. It seems that I threw pearls before the swine. But I would just say that it seems time wasted on someone who can't understand what I'm saying, instead of denigrating fellow human beings by comparing them to animals.
See? I'm a better man than you are and I'm a better man than you imaginary friend from your favorite fairy tale. I wish that that could make me happy, but it just makes me sad that you aren't any better than your imaginary friend and that you think that you're better than anyone else, when in fact you are somewhere at the bottom with rape apologists and white supremacists.
Born danish, now live in Australia. Husband South African. We worship and praise the one true God!
"Whales arent fish" "bats arent birds" amazing how these people will accuse the bible of misusing scientific categories that didnt even exist when the words were being written. Also failing to recognize that theyre reading from a translation in a language that didnt even exist even when the new testament was being written.
Edit: lol I wrote this before hearing Mikes response and I like that he pretty much said the same thing
Regardless of if the word mammal existed or not, to call them fish or birds is still wrong. An God is not suppoed to be wrong.
@@josevieira1736 Did you not read what I said? You're reading an english translation that is utilizing terms that did not even exist when the original was being written. The English language did not even exist when these words were being written. So how could it possibly be misusing English categories?
@@danielomitted1867 did their language had the word "whale" back then? If it had than congratulations you already messed up.
Finally, let's say all of that is actually due to taxonomy and language differences. Are we still arguing that a dude lived inside a whale or that a donkey actually talked? How are we supposed to believe this?
@@josevieira1736 😒 the word the english is using for bird is owph. Do you know what owph means? It means winged creature, which a bat certainly is. Did the Hebrew have a formal equivalence for whale? Not that im aware of. It is beyond stupid to try to accuse the bible of misusing scientific categories that did not even exist when these words being written. Believe whatever you want, I genuinely don't care.
@@danielomitted1867 I heard him about the "flying creature", that's why I asked about the whale and not the bat. But it was funny how he didn't adress it...
God answered me as an atheist! Then seeking Him for Truth from there, I found it was nothing a friend said, it was the change, peace and glow on her face, that showed me what I was looking for, went home and asked Jesus into my heart several times, nothing happening, until one night, I came to the point that I "trust" Him. Bingo. :) That's when He came into my life, and Truth in the Bible has been shown since. I don't try to prove anything to anyone usually, unless the Lord leads me specifically. I share my faith, but, I don't expect too much is what I guess I'm saying.
*That's when He came into my life,*
What actually happened? Be very specific.
@@JMUDoc I felt the Spirit...felt the "peace that passes understanding"...went to sleep and the next morning Jesus was standing at the foot of my bed (unseen but there as real as anyone) and the peace again as if I knew Him all my life and He knew me. I then got up walked a little and down on my knees I went, while the Lord showed me what I really was as a sinner (the Truth). Yet forgiven and taken from me at the same time. Only He could do this😌🙏
@@clearascrystal4960 Is it possible this was a dream or hallucination? If not, why not?
@@JMUDoc Not a dream because I was fully awake, not on drugs or drink. Not an hallucination for the same reasons plus I took no medication whatsoever. Plus the ongoing experiences since. I'm sorry if you try to dismiss everything so easily.
@@clearascrystal4960 *Not a dream because I was fully awake*
Doesn't everybody think they're awake during a dream?
*not on drugs or drink. Not an hallucination for the same reasons plus I took no medication whatsoever.*
Not all hallucinations are caused by drugs or medication.
*Plus the ongoing experiences since.*
What if your subsequent experiences are being interpreted in the light of that first one? "Jesus glasses", if you will.
*I'm sorry if you try to dismiss everything so easily.*
I dismiss personal revelation only in as far as it's used to convince others. "Jesus is real because he appeared to me" will convince nobody that odesn't already believe, you must know that.
Pastor Mike, I thank the Lord for your faithfulness in studying the Bible and the gift of teaching He has given you. The Lord Bless you and keep you.
Go look up Aron's new video in response to Mike Winger, but this time he has help from Dr Joshua Bowen, and his scholarly responses to Mike's dumb responses
Hey Mike, recently got turned on to your TH-cam channel. Content is fantastic! Biblical, thoughtful, winsome, balanced, and challenging! So needed in today’s biblically illiterate and anti-Christian culture. Keep up the great and essential work!
So these videos do what?
Affirm your confirmation biases, wishful thinking and fixed beliefs held against the evidence that supports the contrary against them?
Is that what these videos do for you?
@@tyrionlannister3459 everything is contradicting in today’s world which is a reason spirituality is apparent. if you feel left out of something bigger you are and the easiest way around it is putting your faith into something higher that is the closest to your world view
@@tyrionlannister3459 wishful thinking is faith from countless consistent claims overtime. You put faith into everything you haven’t made that we’ve evolved to do. Have faith
it’s so funny to me that atheists so often operate from the illogical stance that a God powerful enough to create the laws of nature could not alter, bend, or break those same laws..🤦🏼♂️ if the existence of God can be logically or philosophically supported, then so can the existence of biblical miracles and supernatural events. it’s honestly a very simple concept.
I was hoping someone refuted this video of his. Being a PhD student, I refuted most of his science based videos easily, and have been considering starting videos specifically for that. However, when it comes to bible scripture, I am not as good at refuting things despite having read the bible myself. Really looking forward to watching this. Starting now!
Hi JT. I definitely encourage you to start that channel. We need more Christians who are scientist to create content refuting people like him. I’d watch 👍
Hope you follow Reasons to Believe too!
Three years later still lying to yourself?
You refute science? 😄
Anyone notice the last line in Aron's list @31:00 has God written as G-d. Why would Aron care about respecting the name of God like a Jew. Me thinks this is a copy and paste from some Jewish anti-missionary material.
dude! brilliant. Good catch
Or he’s treating it like a swear word maybe? 🤔
I think you are right man!!
@@laurendamaso2909 maybe
Either that or Aaron is Jewish.
What's also really cool is that we've found pieces of the Bible recently that almost perfectly match ours today. An old scroll containing what is now a chunk of the Book of Isaiah was found, and it was about a 98% correlation between the two. Praise God for the unchanging and never-ending promises of God!
It's funny how every Time I hear Aaron speaks about the Bible I'm AMAZED on how Little this man knows about the Bible. You may correct him on a Fact and when you hear him at a later date. What do you know, he gets the exact fact WRONG. Then after a decade of him being Wrong about the same Verified Bible Fact and him admitting it EVERY TIME. He still gets it wrong. He just doesn't care...
@Nehemiah Scudder that's evidence of perspective
Luke wrote with a gentile perspective and Matthew a Jewish He-li and Jacob were brothers and when He-li died, Jacob married his widow begatting Joseph.
under Jewish law Joseph was Jacob's biological son and He-li's legal heir or son because he was childless at his death.
@Nehemiah Scudder do your own work, funny how all you commies want everything for free. Eli (Heli) Jacob, Jewish Law.
Me before this video: ugh, Aron Ra is talking about the old testament again ...
Me after this video: Isaiah's a dope book, yo.
😄👍
31:09 Turkish/Ottoman heritage here (we don't need much of an introduction). Yes, Jesus Christ is Lord.
swedish speaking part of Finland :)
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That's for still being circa 2007 youtube atheilard in 2020. Enjoy voting for Biden.
@@CedanyTheAlaskan I knew that guy in high school. He still hates me because I used to flush his head down the toilet.
@asrgaqgq sdfgsdgsdfgsdg Remember...gargle, don't speak. You'll only choke again.
I’m German, no clue what we used to worship but my whole family worships the God of Israel because of Jesus
This is why I love scripture. We don’t have to scrape and cower and try to defend what we don’t understand, God has perfectly recorded His words and they crush the arguments when honestly studied.
You know what got me years ago was zeitgeist. Totally blew me away and I took it at face value and didn’t even bother to investigate it for quite a while. God bless you man.
Sounds like it basically boils down to "Prophesy was not fulfilled because I reject the New Testament entirely."
I bet you have never read it. Read the whole new testement and then...
@@prettyboyandsunnydays2kittensI second that bet
The Christ said the second coming would happen in the lifetime of his cult followers. So within 40-50 years of 33 A.D. ol Mike here is 2000 years later still waiting.
Hi Pastor Mike, i just wanted to say thank you for all the hard work and hours you put into making these videos. I always feel so sad when i hear people scoffing and mocking and not actually listening but just hearing bits and bobs and responding without genuine thought. You do such a great job at keeping calm and collected; I imagine seeing ugly comments come through as you explain things, must be difficult sometimes. so well done and thank you. You inspire me to pursue Christ with all i have! God bless you! And thanks again.
I'm from Germany. In the past, Germanic tribes used to worship pagan deities. But thanks to the spreading of the gospel around the world, I came to worship Jesus Christ. Praise God!
An in 2000 years times it's likely it will be something else people worship.
What an intelligent, respectful rebuttal. I really enjoyed this.
It's very obvious that Aron is waaaay out of his depth.
Great job, Mark! I'm becoming a big fan of yours. As a scientist, my view is that Aron Ra is essentially a Scientism Fundamentalist who doesn't know what science actually is while simultaneously thinking science means blind faith in the current consensus of academia.
I’m from Brazil, part of a odu worship family, but now I belong to Jesus!!
Its not hard to prove Aaron wrong. He reacts emotinally on many topics, like most people do these days. He cherry picks verses worse than my brother picking onions out of meatloaf. He is just another person who needs Jesus just as much as anyone else. Pray for men and women like him. Dont mock and ridicule because Jesus never talked down to anyone. God bless
Agreed!
Mike Winger, Tremendous Job on this video,I love how you dissected aarons dumping.
Go look at Aron's new video in response to Mike Winger, but this time, he has help from Dr Joshua Bowen, and he easily refutes all of Winger's dumb responses.
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 This wasn't dumb. Aron's overconfidence and disdain for religion are rather questionable.
@@promethium-145 oh really? Coming from a guy who can't seem to comprehend the idea that the nation of Israel is a group of people, and him saying that Israelites giving birth to other Israelites doesn't make sense is just dumb.
And if you really wanna know why Isaiah 53 is about Israel? Read Isaiah 41 all the way to 53 and put 53 into context, then you will see its not messianic.
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 What? Jesus was an Israelite.
@@promethium-145 yeah, no one's disputing that, but Mike claimed that Israelites giving birth to other Israelites doesn't make sense
I feel so bad for Aron, you can see in his face he has no joy in his life. He's bought the lie that his joylessness comes from Christians around him and so he attacks it to receive a little false joy out of that supposed 'purposefulness'. But really he's just further hardening his heart from the One whom will give him Joy overflowing... Pray for him.
Yes, I thought that, too. I think that every time one of them opens their mouth. They are not joyous people and they never look happy. They usually have very empty eyes, too. They're, also, the ones who cry "tolerance, tolerance, tolerance," yet they are so intolerant of Christians. They say how mean Christians are because we trying to warn others about their soul. They are just hateful about Christians. When one of them speaks, it only reinforces my belief because they have nothing, at all.
Yeah... And it's so weird how he spent over 20 years debating Christians. Like dude, just live your life already... Hasn't he gone over all the arguments? 😂
Stuff like this , is pretty appalling in the sense that we have atheist who so firmly claim to have read the Bible all the way through “many times” , to have learned all about it , to have done so many things to justify their disbelief and then get rebutted with so easily , they are simple minded in they’re approach and representation and then to see they’re comment section and people just eat it up is kind of annoying and sad like wow
Exactly. The problem is one of goals. They're not seeking truth genuinely. They're seeking validation their pre-existing beliefs are the truth instead.
They get everything wrong in a specific say that suits their "side" ranging from science, logic, philosophy, and the Bible itself.
Aron Ra strengthens my faith in Christ because he shows me how much atheists have to gruesomely mangle the text and pile up unsupported claims to deny Jesus.
😂👍YEAH
LoL at red alert. Thanks for taking the time to defend scripture one dumping point at time. God bless you MW
The Bible wasn't originally written in English, everyone knows that except King James...lol ya killing me bro
Go look up Aron's new video in response to Mike videos, this time he has help from biblical scholar, Dr Joshua Bowen, and his counterarguments from his scholarly background.
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 I know this is three weeks late, but Aron didn't so much respond to Mike's criticisms. Mike made valid points, yet I never heard Aron say, "You know what, maybe I've been unfair in my criticisms". He just seemed to double down, and instead of responding, he needs to ask an actual scholar for help. I'm not saying that's inherently bad, but Aron just seems to run to someone else for help out of nowhere. It seems somewhat cowardly.
@@promethium-145 he did ask a scholar, Aron has posted a new video in response to Mike Winger's arguments with Dr. Joshua Bowen from Digital Hammurabi to help him refute Winger's claims on the Bible and the OT. Look it up
@@TheKnowledgeMan101 Yeah, I know. It's just that Aron never admitted his errors.
Have you notice when you watch his videos arguing with Christians he gets really mad because he knows that you can’t disprove Christianity no matter what and without a artist there is no art work. sorry for my typing
"you can’t disprove Christianity no matter what" You can't refute someone's delusional belief with facts. They'll just deny the facts are there, or will reinterpret them. Christianity is a wonderland where two opposite things can happen, and both times they will treated as evidence.
@@denizen53 the denying of facts goes both ways “atheists deny historical and archeological evidence for Jesus and things of the Bible all the time, they have their own religion they refuse to claim called atheism
@@marcusmoore5191 We "deny" it because the historical and archeological evidence dosen't exist. There are no contemporary sources from the time Jesus was alive. Paul lived decades after Jesus supposedly lived and claims he met him in a hallucination. The Gospels don't count as eyewitness accounts and the few historians that mention Jesus simply refer to him in relation to the Christian cult that was circulating the Gospel story for decades prior and they don't name their sources and some of them wrote it almost a century later. So no. There is no more evidence of Jesus's existence any more than there is historical evidence that Superman existed because Lois Lane wrote about him or a boy named Harry Potter went to a school called Hogworts simply because lots of people wrote stories about him, and they mentioned actual places. There is more evidence for the Loch Ness monster than a historical Jesus. The entire character of Jesus could have been made up and promoted by Paul, and the result would have been exactly the same.
Also atheism is defined as a lack of religious belief, therefore atheist do not have religion, and cannot be called religious.
@@denizen53 Paul lived decades after Jesus? He was a contemporary of Jesus. He wrote 1Corinthians around 57CE. If Jesus died 30CE then how old was Paul when he wrote it if he lived decades after Jesus?
Mark was written about a decade before the temple was destroyed 70CE. The latest dating for John is 100CE but still not a century after Jesus, and given the dating of Mark there is not sufficient time for Jesus to become mythologized.
Take the book of Hebrews written also before 70CE. It has all of the spiritual aspects of Jesus but again not enough time for Jesus to become mythologized.
@@marcusmoore5191 But historical and archeological evidence don't prove anything divine
The semi-objective Aron Ra fan should seriously reconsider his credibility after this! Great work, Mike!
Former atheist here, your videos have helped me quite a lot. Keep up the good work❤
Those people who are spiritually blind cant see the truth until their sight is restored by God
They've chosen to be blind. God has nothing to do with it, other than they hate him.
@Lance Rothman look around. One must have an open mind.
@Lance RothmanGod is outside of time. He is not physical. Nothing I say will persuade you. You have your mind made up. Closed, dare I say. Prove gravity exists. Or maybe truth or love. You can only show the results, or effects.
@Lance Rothman God created all. He is not bound by any worldly constraint. He created the laws. They are part of his being.
Don't make the mistake of thinking God was created. He is outside of time and space.
I agree. Jesus 4 life.
Hey Mike, you didn't comment on this in your stream, but Aron's statement at 44:43 that "most of [the Isaiah passage] is in past tense" is a further indication of his ignorance on the subject.
Ancient Hebrew didn't have a time-based tense system, but an aspect-based system ("aspect" simply being how an author depicts a verb, either as completed or incomplete). Thus, Hebrew had perfect and imperfect tenses, but not past, present, or future tenses. We often translate perfect tenses as past (since most of our completed actions are done in the past), but Ancient Hebrew speakers could--and often did--use the perfect tense to refer to contemporaneous or future events. In fact, Hebrew grammarians recognize a "prophetic perfect" that was utilized by Hebrew authors. This perfect usage probably developed as a way to convey the certainty of prophecies, as the prophet was so sure that the prophecy would occur that it was as if YHWH had already completed it.
That's a small detail, I know, but it just goes to show how little time Aron invested in investigating these claims.
Isaiah 53 is a future confessional and lament by the children of Israel after Christ's second coming when they receive Him corporately as their Messiah.
Exactly. Thanks for explaining this.
BRobin, perfect and imperfect are past tenses! What indication do you think there is in Isaiah 53:1-9 that we are dealing with a prophecy? I don't know any Hebrew grammarian who analyses those verses as futuristic in implication or prophetic. It's not impossible, but it is unlikely.
Then explain why Isaiah prophesied the overthrow of Babylon in the past tense, too. Did he get a time machine?
@@genli5603 most Bible scholars believe it was written after the fact. Even Evangelical Christians like in the NIV Bible. And so it's not even a prophecy because it was written during and after the event.
I'm also from South Africa, many people in the country has to turn back to God. Thank you for sharing the truth Mike. Thank you for being so humble and honest. It means a lot me, seeing a Christian leader being up front with his feet in the ground. May we all do everything for the glory of God. Jesus is the only way to understand what it's all about.
I wish I had your videos around when I was a young teen being impressed by the words of atheists. Might have brought me (back) to the Lord a lot sooner!
@@lepidoptera9337 good one man
Thank you dear Mike. I just wanted to say how thankful I am to God that you are here. My God bless you and yours and give you strength.
Thank you for honestly serving God with this Channel! Congrats on 200k!
If anyone were to ask me for my favorite verses in the bible, I would give them Psalm 22, I love it. Ever since I learned Jesus' cry on the cross "my God, my God why have you forsaken me?" Was him bringing direct attention to Psalm 22, it shook me how clearly he was describing his condition with so little breath. And with the end of the psalm, he's still blessing the world and praising God, even in such a dire deadly situation.
Mike Winger, I thank God from the bottom of my heart ♥️ that you have shared your spiritual gift of discernment for our benefit. With your help I am full of answers for those thirsting for the eternal water (that Jesus provides). I’m happy you exist my brother. I thank you.
When regarding kings shutting their mouths... King Herod couldn't say anything. I would also say Pilate was at a loss of words... I would think those would be fulfillments.
And Thanos defeated God in a comic. See, I can say impressive things about fictional characters too.
@4u soul And Tolkien nerds respect Gandalf even though he doesn't exist either. Nobody doubts that people believe that Jesus exists, they just don't think that counts as evidence for him actually existing.
There are also atheist heads of state, China being one of them. So that prove he doesn't exist because the head of the largest country DOESN'T bow to him!?
@@denizen53
king Herod: not fictional.
Pilate: not fictional.
Is there anything other than pride and arrogance in your comment? Lmao. I know I know, it’s so easy to dump all over Christians.
@@denizen53 I was an atheist for 20 years and had no doubt Jesus, the historical person, actually existed. It’s comical to claim otherwise unless you’re willing to deny the existence of every historical figure in the world. No serious scholar, religious or atheist, denies that Jesus existed. Up for debate is his divinity only. Even Muslims don’t deny that he existed because to do so would be foolish and instantly invalidate their beliefs because it’s a fact. You can deny the resurrection and miracles, there are matters of faith, but any atheist who doesn’t even acknowledge the historical fact of Jesus’ existence is a fool. Go to your scholars and you’ll see that every college educated atheist scholar knows Jesus existed.
@@denizen53 the fact you cant tell the difference between the record of the bible and thanos says more about then it does the bible.
Great job, pastor. I know this was a couple of years ago, but I'd love to see a live debate between you and Aron Ra.
You shouldn't throw pearls before swine but I'd still like to see it. 😅
Excellent response and analysis!
Thank you so much, pastor Mike.
Have only just watched this now. Would be interested in whether Aaron Ra ever tried a rebuttal on this. Sorry I'm a bit late for this...
God bless!
Much appreciated. Faith to believe what cannot be "proved" is still required, but videos like this at least keep the discussion honest.
I've already written that atheist guy off as ignorant or deceitful. It's good that you go through his garbage for those who don't know.
Ignorant and deceitful when he talks about what the Bible actually says. Did you find it a little bit suspicious that the savior of the Bible had never heard the name that you must know to be saved? Did you find a suspicious that the saviour said he came to save the Jews, but all the stories are about a crazy violent gangster who was thrown out of every town before he attacked religious leaders who demanded his death.
Really happy to see your channel growing. I love what you do. Keep up the good work brother!
I love it when atheist fancy themselves theologians! This video is very encouraging and I appreciate your gracious rebuttal; it would have been hard for me to be so nice to such a terrible interpretation of the Isaiah passage.
Hi! I'm a Nigerian. My fathers worshipped the Igbo god Amdioha. I worship the God of Israel because of Jesus the King of kings!
I am buddhist. most of my family are pagans
Hey brother. I’ve been watching your videos and I’m excited about the work Christ is doing in this ministry. My knowledge of theology is growing through your videos and is strengthening my faith and witness. Keep it up brother. I would only encourage you more to actually share the gospel every time. We all need to hear it, believers and unbelievers. The Love of God and the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus for the payment of all sinners is astounding, and I just can’t get enough of His love, by His grace, and his mercy, poured out for my sinful, undeserving life, and to all who would recive His gift of eternal life by faith alone in Jesus Christ our Lord. I’m desperate for the atheist audience of these videos to see through the lies and distractions and see the truth of the gospel. Thank you Mike. You’re awesome
Terry, if you are interested in the ministry, learn biblical Hebrew! Then you will be able to expound the "Old Testament" rather than act like a regurgitating parrot in the way that almost all Christians do.
Absolutely love your content. Such a blessing. Praying the Lord continues to guide your words and heart. Thank you so much :)
Hi Mike. Thank you so much for this video. I've watched a couple of video debates on this guy and a lot of what he claims is misinforming and misleading to people. I think you are doing a great work, thank you so much for clarifying this to people, so that they may come to a better understanding of God's word in their lives. God bless you brother.
11:50 OMG, that's a lot like Japanese! The word for leg includes the whole thing from thigh to foot!!
Yeah, Mandarin Chinese, too! I'm always struggling with hand/arm and foot/leg when talking to people. On the plus side, I got my wife a foot massage for her birthday, and she got a whole leg massage!
Wow! What a well detailed explanation and response. Looks like Aron Ra brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight. Great job! God bless you!
Lmao more like aronra brought facts against a desperate attempt to confirm make believe
@Simon Botte You seem confused, ill assume you actually think your being honest. Allow me to help you. Abortion is the taking of a innocent life. Gun rights are protected to secure freedom, however the practical argument is that they are used to protect innocent life, in the hands of legal owners. The statistics back the claim. We wage war, when deemed necessary, cause we are fighting to protect people of other nations and ourselves. If you feel both sides are wrong to fight, then you believe we were wrong to oppose Hitler in WWII?? How bout the Civil war, was the north wrong to fight the south over slavery? Hope you wont try to claim civil war was about money or states right, rather than slavery. its a ridiculous argument. Its was about the STAE RIGHT, to OWN SLAVES. They opposed states rights to oppose slavery in the north. Also, if it was about the economic advantage of slavery, then they would have simply allowed slavery in the north. if it was cause it was not economically viable, as some claim, I would like to point out that the north was smarter than those whom make the claim, if it was not profitable they would allow it to fail. they passed no law against butchering your stock and leaving it to rot, cause nobody would be stupid enough to do that, and if they were it would be there problem.
@Simon Botte You can't punish a baby for his father's sin. Every life is important. Don't be Hippocrate.
Red alert 😂 that made me laugh thank you for the great content you produce ps I love your cats 🐈 🐱❤️
Made me laugh too lol!!
As a child, I thought Atheists were clever and they sometimes gave me pause, now that I'm older, I see how profoundly little they actually even know about Christian doctrine and then they try to refute it. The more I study Christianity, the less intriguing I find Atheists
+MC R And yet so many atheists are former Christians with far more expertise in Christian doctrine than you will ever have. Some atheists are clever, some aren't, but at least they lack one more irrational and unsubstantiated belief than you hold.
@@lawrenceharold8599 And yet it doesn't matter how many former Christians are now atheist it still doesn't make Christianity false. Every former Christian I have heard didn't really know what the Bible actually teaches.
Tom Zzyzx, I’ve had the same experience. Very few “former Christians” I’ve met, we’re ever actually knowledgeable about Christianity in the first place. And let’s face it. Aron ADMITTED that he didn’t bother watching the video that he was “refuting.” It’s insane to me that people will hear that from Aron’s own mouth and still take his arguments seriously. Although there is also a chance that those people commenting didn’t bother watching either, which would explain a lot.
Are you able to say with a straight face that cows won't or will conceive if they look at striped stick?
@@tomzzyzx101 most Christians I have met deny scriptures are in the Bible even after they're pointed out. Christians that don't make bad arguments don't tell people they're Christian.
As former Christian, I greatly appreciated your work with this video. I definitely think you did great responding to his claims. I think the question is not the prophecy but knowing the reliability of the Gospels etc. especially since the Authentic Paul letters are the earliest docs we have. But great video.
If you care to look into it, there are several resources dedicated to showing the evidence for the Bible's historical reliability. The Lydia McGrew TH-cam channel can be technical at times but it's a great resource for finding arguments for the Resurrection and the reliability of the Gospels/Acts. Testify is also a great resource in the same vein but for more of a lay audience.
@@Jimmy-iy9pl thank you for your honest and sincere response. I will check these out. It’s hard to find ppl who actually want to answer without slinging only bible versus at you. Much appreciated.
@Mike Winger: I’ve just discovered something interesting here; this guy quotes Psalms 22: ‘...like a lion they are at my hands and feet...’ is actually from the New World translation (Jehovah’s Witnesses) which in itself is a deliberate mistranslation to hide the deity of Christ.
Sounds about right for that goofball!
no bible translation on earth hides the deity of Christ lol, if your NWT assumption is true why didn't they change or throw out Isaiah 9:6?
@@aspreedacore Because they are sloppy.
They changed John 1 from "and the Word was God" to "and the word was a god" so they didn't even deny the Word being divine but just made it be a separate deity.
That's pretty sloppy if you ask me.
@@NeoNaw A god still means divine, following your logic every translation denies YHWH being divine cause YHWH in the so called OT is called a god at least a dozen times. putting "a" in the greek is grammatically possible as every translation puts "a" in acts 23:6.
I looked up psalms 22:16 in the hebrew and strongs concordance, they dropped the ball on psalms 22:16 I agree.
@@aspreedacore It means divine but calling the Word "a god" seperates it from capital letter God which implies that the Word is not Yahweh despite being divine.
This is awesome! Atheism is built on sand.
While theism is built on nothing but blind faith.
@@billy9144, many past biblical events are proven.
@@ZAKKt01 A few stories loosely refer to real events, but the vast majority of the bible is not proven in the slightest. If I write a story about my buddy Joe that can fly and is immortal and referred to real things in the world, would that prove my claims about Joe to be true?? Of course not. Use scrutiny.
@@billy9144, you're funny. 😆 check out Ron Wyatt discoveries. Noah's Ark, Sodom & Gomorrah, Red Sea Crossing, Mount Sinai, Ark of the Covenant.
Where did water come from? How did every living creature "evolve" into their own kinds? How does an eyeball work? How did such an amazing part of every living creature just happen to "evolve" into such beings? With such a vast complexity of every part of a body just happened to fall into place.
Thanks so much Mike for all you do for the kingdom.
I love the way Mike starts so many sentences with "hey man" 😂. In all seriousness, thank you very much for these videos - they are extremely informative and strengthen my faith.
It's interesting because Aron Ra (why does he look like he has such a dark, gloomy countenance?? Hmm) speaks AS THOUGH he's 'obviously' correct. This is exactly how Bill Maher did it in his brutally un-researched 'film' Religulous and how the chumps at ZEITGEIST did their pseudo-documentary. Since they speak with such perceived certainty and dismissive confidence, those who also don't do the research get fooled quickly. I had a long conversation with a fellow who had SOME faith at one point but it melted away the minute he saw Zeitgeist and he realized he'd been duped, or so he thought - until I showed him how flawed Zeitgeist was!
Sometimes, as Mike here has noted...people find the surface level answers they want (confirmation-bias) and they don't do the necessary work to dig deeper to test if what they believe is true. Aron Ra is one but many on the fence believers may also be looking for that way out - like in an MMA fight...the fighter is mentally done, so they offer up their neck to be submitted so they can tap out but still look like they were honestly beaten. Instead, they were looking for a way out.
Mike here is helping folks like Aron realize (should he chose to open his eyes) that dismissing Christianity is NOT so easy, not at all. In fact, it is PURE folly.
I'm fully dialed into this channel now and love the work you're doing Mike. I'm learning so much and look forward to learning more, not just in information but in HOW you present it. With fairness, love and respect but not yielding at all and standing very, very firmly on truth, without apology. KEEP IT UP!!
Soaptoaster, if you want to "dig deeper", then examine the Jewish interpretation of Isaiah 53 and preferably learn biblical Hebrew. THEN make up your mind! Christians like the lazy route of borrowing and regurgitating the same Christian misinformation.
@@psandbergnz In John 12 Jesus himself quotes Isaiah 53 as being about himself and isaiah 6 as being about himself. Matthew the evangelist quotes Isaiah 7:14 as being about the virgin mary and fulfilled in Jesus.
Of course Jews have their traditions to deny the christ, just like Jews 2000 years ago crucified the son of God. The fact people have a different interpretation doesnt mean their interpretation is correct or that ours is invalid.
You seem like a really good man so I will keep coming back to your channel.
Your one of the most sound teachers we appreciate you
I experienced evil spirits! My husband even expirenced it one time with me! After I got saved and baptized I haven't experienced any more spirits! The fear I felt, kept the spirits pursuing me! I didn't come to the lord to get rid of them, like some! I just realized a true believer fears nothing and to call on Jesus in all things!
Proverbs 18:2
Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions.
Pray for him. I was once like him but God showed mercy and revealed Himself to me.
personally i would use the prophecies of Cyrus in Isaiah prophecy naming a future King by name? come on it's as amazing as it gets
I agree! That was one that helped me see the light. Also Psalm 22 because I read it before I ever heard about it being a Messianic prophecy and I knew it was written long before Jesus was born as a man. It hit me like a ton of bricks that it was Jesus being referred to. God bless!
The arm of the Lord brought salvation for Himself when there was found none righteous, in Isaiah 59. Now compare back to Isaiah 53:1, "Who has believed our report and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?" Isaiah goes on to describe an individual who was unlike Israel, who he describes as having deceit and violence. This one man fulfills the chapter in detail. Bearing the sins of many. It is Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah of the world! Our Righteousness! Fulfiller of prophecies!
Oh yeah!
Daniel 9 prophecies the exact year Christ entered on Palm Sunday.
The Bible also said the Jews would be spread throughout every nation and that in the last days they would become a nation again and be carried on the wings of eagles so not only did the Bible prophesy they would be a nation again it also prophesied the airplanes that would carry them to their homeland.
Am extremely appreciating the info i get from you as i study the bible ! Thanks Dear , following you from Egypt (:
Regarding the lion/pierced passage. I have seen lion skins displayed in Africa stretched out with nails through the "hands and feet." I would imagine this could be an ancient way of displaying them that may go back to Biblical times.
Thank you brother for defending the truth of the Gospel. Have a great day!
0:40 ..am thinking how many subscribers does Mike have when he uploaded this video.. 😏
Love how the Lord expanded your ministry brother..
God bless you Mike, all your messages are of great value to me. Thank you.
This was an excellent breakdown for truth, brother. I appreciate your zeal and heart for God and His people.
My favorite atheist argument is the hyper naive hyper ignorant line
You just say I don't believe it, and you can't make me.
You can bring an atheist to evidence, but you can't make him think
Evidence like.....
ANY evidence would help.
@@tstoddart5540 omg guys a rainbow 🌈
That thing just made itself?
Its inherently esoteric
#NotRandom
God is easy to prove, which God is the real one is the harder question.
@@EricSmyth4Christ Ridiculous. We can explain what rainbows are, and why they appear the way they do, and NO GOD is necessary. It is ridiculous to add a god into that equation. Why a god? Why not fairies, elves, or centaurs? Ridiculous. The existence of reality does not prove a god in ANY way.
@@tstoddart5540 But to think it's not designed? If the stars alligned and said "God is here" would you believe? (be honest)
What if your friend called you stupid for it? It can be explained without God after all...
☺ I was waiting on Isaiah 53 and you nailed it Mike. Thank you sir! Jesus did EVERYTHING Isaiah 53 prophesied. I don't think Mr. Ra has ever really read and also researched the Scriptures, the context and the culture and language of the time those Scriptures were written.
The prophecies in Daniel are so cool! He predicts Alexander the Great in so much detail.
measured, thoughtful and gracious-love your videos
I love it when people want to act like the basic principals of public health can't be found in Levitical law.
This world wouldn't be the same without you Mike, you are one of my hero's!
Being a former Atheist myself, I love to talk with atheists, and agnostics, that really have a honest curiosity for facts about what the are claiming. But because I was once an Atheist myself, I also know, many atheists are only repeating what they hear, and what another atheist claims..... but have never taken the time to honestly verify such claims, and most of them just want to argue for the sake of argue, or show off what they supposedly “know”. I don’t waste my time with the laters, for they don’t really care about facts, (which really shows their ignorance) and they tend to be mockers, belittling and disrespectful; for that is what abusive people, and Narcs do, when they don’t have a good intelligent, thought through argument), and just act upon their negative feelings against Christianity, and God. But I must admit, many times I find them amusing, with their boasting and them showing off their own ignorance. Which I don’t even have to help them doing so, for they do a pretty good job on their own. But with the very intelligent ones, and honest, is an honor and a delight to have a conversation with them, exchange of ideas, and facts, even if the don’t change their mind. Some of the are such beautiful souls, and people. I pray that they open their heart to the Lord, know, and experience God’s Salvation.
I'm an atheist, what shall we talk about? Why didn't you believe when you were younger and now do?
@@JonGrove-ub8cvThank-you for actually just asking a question and wanting an authentic conversation! It's refreshing to see an atheist that doesn't start the discussion with mocking or insults.
@@kladies3021I’d love to hear your story too! Why did you not believe and what changed for you?
@@kladies3021 you haven't made any unfounded claims. I think most atheists I encounter and myself included, simply have issues with opinions being stated as facts.
I have no problem with someone believing, I don't myself, but I get it can bring hope and comfort to people. I'd never want to take away from that.
I just resent people stating unsubstantiated opinions as facts. If you believe it fine, just don't expect others to if you can't prove it.
I just found your channel - this is only the 2nd one im watching and i can not say i agree with everything - but who of us knows the Bible to perfection ? - with that said i will watch more videos just on the basis that you carry yourself as a true Christian - you humble yourself and you work to understand the Word and i have more respect for that than i could ever express in words - i came across steve anderson and the way you handled that was great - you used Wisdom - knowledge is our downfall - Wisdom is from God - thank you - in this day and age you are a rarity - keep the faith and prayer - it will not let you down - again thank you
Mike your an amazing pastor may God keep blessing you in all your works thru Jesus and the Holy Spirit I love your amazing videos all of them your a true inspirational pastor to me again God bless you... and as for AronRa may God bless you as well and give you the knowledge of the truth in Jesus name 🙏
Did you know the Savior you speak of had never heard the name Jesus?
Thanks for the good information! I've noticed that Aaron plays pretty fast and loose with the facts almost all the time. I've heard him say things that are clearly false but the thing is he says it confidently....I guess that's why he has a lot of followers. I'm glad you are calling him on some of this stuff.
@The Truth I am a Christian.
@Blaster Master I am sorry you have had that experience with believers. It goes both ways...and I think the reason is that a lot of times these are important issues and sometimes people get sensitive about them pretty quickly. It reminds me of the professor who said "many people...when they should strengthen their argument...resort to raising their voice".
Aron Rah is a smart guy and he can speak well. Other than that I find his arguments weak. Look at his debate with Fuz Rana. It's actually one of the more civil debates I've seen him in...but the interesting thing is that even though I've seen AR make detailed arguments related to abiogenesis when Fuz challenges him on it he backs way off of it and makes it sound like he's much stronger in other areas of argument. I don't think he is. He has come up with some BS tricks which are really hallow boxes and he acts like it's really something. He wants to tell biologists how things work... and he wants to tell organic chemists how they are wrong. Really? Look at what AR says and compare it to what James Tour says about abiogenesis. Abiogenesis is exactly organic chemistry and there is nobody out there with better credentials in the field or more widely respected that James Tour. I'll listen to what he says about it....not AR. AR makes WAY too broad claims. Like he was there when it happened like he is the only one in the world who knows how it all happened. Nonsense. Any serious player in these scientific disciplines knows that it's nowhere near as cut and dry as AR claims... that is if they are honest.
@The Truth what are you smoking? "Any apologetic (I assume you mean apologist) wants to keep his followers as blind as he is?" Are you sure you aren't talking about Aron Ra?
The Truth do you just parrot what other people say or do you ever do any research to uncover "the truth"? I'm not sure what "gatherings" you are talking about but people have given their lives to destroying the bible only to figure out it's not "fiction" at all. Sir William Ramsay is one of them. His research led him to believe that the author of one of the books you speak about (Acts) was "an historian of the first rank". Aron, on the other hand, is full of fairy tales.
Love the teaching in this segment, very clear and understandable. Keep up the good work Mike.