SLIP TEST - Subaru Forester S-AWD - III vs IV vs V - SH vs SJ vs SK - @4x4.tests.on.rollers

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  • @michicasa
    @michicasa หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Proud owner of sj since 2014...

  • @marked_for_deletion8840
    @marked_for_deletion8840 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been trying to decide between a 3rd or 4th gen for my next daily. AWD is a big factor with the winters here - this video was a great resource for comparison.

  • @jamesofsandiego
    @jamesofsandiego 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Excellent. Thank you for doing this with X-Mode and traction control both on and off.

  • @pliniocorr
    @pliniocorr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love your tests! Please test a Forester SH/SJ with manual transmission!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! If we find manuals, we'll test it for sure.

  • @spooks1046
    @spooks1046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im so glad I own a 2015 forester xt. Great comparison video.

  • @Rich_123
    @Rich_123 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Blue one had the least drama. I wonder why Subaru made the next gen less aggressive by default.

    • @下田洋介-w4z
      @下田洋介-w4z ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Primary reason is for fuel efficiency, at the no x-mode reducing the torque sending to rear axle increases the gas mileage, and second reason is less aggressive mode allows higher speed range than full x-mode....

  • @brattikx777
    @brattikx777 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Super interesting, from test the SJ gives best results. However i would like to know if difference tire types and pressure. Also i think the age / km lifetime of gearbox etc. But from design i prefer the SH with intercooler air-intake on top.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tyres do not influence the test, pressure correct for each car.

  • @user-sd3rj6tl8l
    @user-sd3rj6tl8l ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think the xmode on the newer subaru dirt mode turns off after going a certain amount of speed. Its supposed to not allow as much wheel spin as the mud mode

  • @MyGod-w8g
    @MyGod-w8g ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍👍👍

  • @theblitz1687
    @theblitz1687 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Blue one nailed the test! Looks like they reserved that ability to only deep snow mud on the new model. I assıme this would be done to reduce fuel consumption or for better handling?

  • @blake343
    @blake343 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So are the lower trims of the 2020 forester without the multiple x modes just shit out of luck? that seems crazy to me

  • @kazimierzwrona727
    @kazimierzwrona727 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have to watch till the end. X-mode made a difference

  • @Eugen-E
    @Eugen-E ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Soo the SJ has the most aggressive programming.

    • @Albuermeduardo
      @Albuermeduardo ปีที่แล้ว

      it looks like it, but it shouldn´t be that way. It´s the reason why i commented on the tires of the SJ.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@AlbuermeduardoTires do not influence the test, there are no problems with grip.

    • @spongebobsquarepants2656
      @spongebobsquarepants2656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SJ with one-level X-mode is the best tuned. SK is less aggresive to point out the new 2 level X-mode.

    • @Albuermeduardo
      @Albuermeduardo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spongebobsquarepants2656 I disagree. The x-mode was revised and updated for the SK model.

    • @spongebobsquarepants2656
      @spongebobsquarepants2656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Albuermeduardo Sure it was. And ? I can't see any advantage in traction over SJ. Even considering the e-boxer support.

  • @umutooo
    @umutooo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder how Sh forester passed the side roller & diagonal & 3roller tests even though VDC was turned off. As far as i know, this model comes with 4 eat Mpt system with VDC. Maybe there is an electronic differential lock without any relay and switch off button.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      VDC includes traction control and stability control. Traction control is always active.

    • @umutooo
      @umutooo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thank you.

  • @mixas77
    @mixas77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Супер🎉

  • @johntanchong3166
    @johntanchong3166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The white can do what the Blue can do on the right setting "Deep Snow and Mud". The white which is the 2020 model is more realiable compared to the 2019 model.

  • @Joeyote
    @Joeyote ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The SJ is more aggressive AWD program and stiffer suspension. Just wonder why the SK is less in many way?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More aggressive doesn't mean better, that depends on conditions 🙂

    • @AntonioMartinez-xt7gg
      @AntonioMartinez-xt7gg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      El modelo SK tiene una barra estabilizadora mucho mas rigida. Y una suspension para carretera.

  • @brusmarbor
    @brusmarbor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ciekawy test. Mam niebieskiego, tylko że brązowego. ;-)
    ...and I love it.

  • @Albuermeduardo
    @Albuermeduardo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I´ve been an owner fo a SH Forester and currently own a SJ Forester which I love. However this test was not equilibrated, because I can see that the blue (SJ gen) has some kind of mild off road tires, allowing it to have more grip than the other too. Also, the driver of that same model was way more agressive from the beginning, which is not ideal for this kind of test. He should be accelerating gradually and let the system do its job like the others did.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tyres do not influence this test, cars are not missing the grip.. When it comes to being aggressive - way more is way more said. Driver of blue one could have been pressing the accelerator slightly faster but not harder, system takes control anyway.

  • @nagval7592
    @nagval7592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Надо было ещё вставить сюда SG XT который очень хорошо прошел тест.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SG XT had different awd system.

    • @nagval7592
      @nagval7592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers так и у этих трёх она вся разная))

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nagval7592 These three has ACT-4 S-AWD. Forester SG XT that we tested had VTD. If we wanted to compare SG here - we would have to find version with ACT-4.

    • @nagval7592
      @nagval7592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ну мне кажется важна эффективность в целом.

  • @car_charodon
    @car_charodon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it would be right to turn on manual mode and test at first gear

  • @knowingwhattimeitis
    @knowingwhattimeitis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder how many folk know the brake and accelerator pedal trick. You can hack a roller test even with a 2WD

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Quite a lot. Some of them tried that during the test, it didn't help.

    • @kazimierzwrona727
      @kazimierzwrona727 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it doesn't help even in my Legacy III 00' which gets stuck on two rollers.

    • @sergeysudoma5749
      @sergeysudoma5749 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. Could you please explain about that trick with both pedals?

    • @dmitrypopov2614
      @dmitrypopov2614 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a myth. This only works with limited slip differentials.

    • @An.Individual
      @An.Individual ปีที่แล้ว +4

      worked back in the day but with modern ECUs, if you brake then it cuts the throttle.

  • @andreykakitis7025
    @andreykakitis7025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Какое поколение из них самое лучшее в этом тесте на ваш взгляд?

  • @brattikx777
    @brattikx777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you Notice difference on SH forester with ABS on / off ?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ABS is not in use here.

    • @brattikx777
      @brattikx777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers sorry I mean ESP , I drive SH 2012 with diesel manual gearbox. What is beter esp on or off on mud or snow?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brattikx777Usually it's better to have it on. However, when are driving through deep snow or when you are stuck - then turn it off.

    • @brattikx777
      @brattikx777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks, have a nice evening.

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SH may have had a slightly worn center diff.

  • @krebgurfson5732
    @krebgurfson5732 ปีที่แล้ว

    seems like the car is sliding into the housing of the roller and getting grip there. i could be wrong

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no contact between the housing and tyre: th-cam.com/video/r3sXIfynGls/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cFWe-02rZnP_Th4A

  • @eduktion1
    @eduktion1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SJ Forester (blue) got the rest beat, but to be fair I believe it's the XT model which means it has a turbo engine so it has more torque and power, The front bumper gave it away (I own one)

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nope, blue one is not XT, it's standard 2.0

    • @bwhammm
      @bwhammm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Unless models are different in Europe from North America, the XT is the 2.0. The standard non-turbo has a 2.5 L engine. However, having said that, I'm not sure how much difference more torque would make for this test - it seems it's more about where the available torque is directed.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bwhammm Blue one is 2.0i, naturally aspirated. XT is 2.0T so turbocharged, we also tested such version. No big difference as there is not much torque needed in this test.