imagine getting your shit toasted to hell and back and finding out in heaven that for the rest of eternity your legacy is just "decomposed guy face texture in famous video game"
Thank you! I felt a lot of the discourse centred around just how shocking the discovery was, rather than how sad it was and how a man was stripped of his dignity in death. It’s never sat right with me. I was actually intending to make another video entirely, but I came across the model in Sandtraps, lying there in a serene moment by the sea and it really struck me. Cheers! Machine Yearning
there's a scene in episode 2 that always stuck with me. it's the one where your vort friend comments on the dead body of a rebel who took their own life alone in the mines, that body being represented with the corpse01 model. it's already a very impactful scene, with the vort describing it as bringing comforting thoughts. but with the added context of the origin of the texture it becomes so much more surreal
@@NovaProspekt19 In a world ruled by the Combine, the fact that this guy died on his own terms rather than being turned into a Stalker or slowly wasting away on Private Reserve probably IS comforting, in the relative sense.
That is essentially the crux of the matter for me. It’s bad enough if someone vandalises your gravestone, but to be mocked for millions of hours in a game is quite a sad fate.
That we’re aware of. There is an an untold number of things in the universe that we don’t understand, or have even conceptualised for ourselves. I’m not religious, but none of us know what lies beyond, therefore I don’t rule anything out. All I can do is live my life and hope for the best that maybe there is something more, but if not, I hope to have 0 regrets going out. Cheers
Sad/Creepy fact: It may not be the only one that was accidentally immortalized in Half-Life. The beta model of the fast zombie and the current poison zombie face textures both look very realistic compared to the ones of a normal zombie or of a modern fast zombie.
I was curious and looked it up, the beta fast zombie looks low quality but quite realistic yes, and the poison zombie, while a bit choppily edited, looks too real, so unfortunately this can very well be the case.
considering the image is from a medical textbook, he probably didnt die a horrible death. i assume he just donated his body to science, and for science, they did that to his body. its still bad of course, but at least its (hopefully) not how he died. still, my condolences to him and his family.
Beautiful video, and R.I.P to the person behind the face. After it became apparent the HL2 20th anniversary edition would relesae, I was hoping they would completely replace this texture. Surely re-uploads would exist, nothing is truly gone in the internet or so they say, but it would at least correct a big mistake made that many years ago. At the same time, I unfortunately believe this is way more common than we assume, especially in older games and media. Perhaps not anymore, though then again only a few years ago did a sci-fi movie trailer use real life footage of the 2020 Beirut explosion with some overlayed filters to make it look a bit different. Of course, none of this excuses what Valve did. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Given that you bring up this topic again though, there is one thing I've always wondered about regarding the whole situation, which is that nobody has found the source of the image yet. Most people are probably just assuming it's a random burned body that was then used in a medical book, but looking at the real image this can't be the case. The person's hair was completely untouched, and there was a very clear line in the face between burned and not burned at the hairline, which would never happen naturally to a burn victim or similar. So there's only 2 scenarios that could be true regarding the death of the person: 1. The person fell victim to the cartel, mafia or similar, and they decided to do a very precise burning of their face. 2. It was done by scientists in the name of science, the person agreed before their death to have their body be donated and for their face to be burned post-mortem, and for them to be included in a medical book. If the first is true then what Valve did would be very f*cked up, but that scenario also sounds made up. The second scenario could perhaps add more nuance to the conversation, and is probably true. I'm sure they never agreed verbally to be included in Half-Life 2 directly though of course, so for me personally it would still be an overall wrong. But still, this is why the situation makes me wonder, why has nobody ever gone and searched for this supposed medical book? Why can't anybody clearly identify this person? This was the biggest story in the Half-Life/GMod/Source/Valve community for like a month and it remains controversial, and nobody cared to go look? From all I can tell, the claim "it's from a medical book" remains an unsourced claim, even if I personally believe it.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment and your insights into the matter. The Beiruit explosion being used in media was also very icky. There was a War Thunder expansion which used the explosion of the Challenger Space Shuttle as well, though the devs came out and apologised for this saying they didn't realise that is what it was. I am of the belief that it is the latter option; that the photo came from a medical textbook. If that is the case, then the image that went around must have been scanned in or be included in a PDF version of the book. Ultimately though, I'm not particularly keen on finding the source, though I'm sure someone maybe will. Cheers
Believe it or not, i remember actually finding the textbook it was in, and i believe it had a credit to the person who donated their body (but im not sure), but am unable to find it. I think i found it linked somewhere on some reddit thread.
Not something you see everyday and considering how big the Half Life series is I'd consider it an honor tbh. I wonder if they ever identified the person who died like where they were from and what their name was.
I agree that it could be. We remember great actors who are immortalised forever in all sorts of mediums, but we remember them as they were alive, not as a disfigured corpse that have no agency or say in how they are perceived. In death, the Pharaoh’s had beautiful ornate sarcophagi and imposing pyramids (though often at the cost of the living) I think deep down we all want to be remembered, it’s probably part of why I started this channel. How we are remembered is perhaps more important than being remembered at all
@MachineYearningYT honestly this makes me think, eventually everyone in all 1970s-2000s era media will have passed away, yet its likely that culture will still be embraced, people will be thinking of actors like patrick stewart and the people involved in the creation of half life 2 after all the people involved have long passed away, after even the newest buildings are under historical protections and even after things like personal computers start to hit 150/200, people say we will be forgotten because all of the forgotten 1800s era media but people don't understand that not only is information storage unfathomably better now, but theres billions more people on earth, for most of the 1800s we were under a billion people, america only had five million!
You're the first person I've ever seen to make this video, fantastic job. I've seen plenty of folks draw attention to the fact that it's a real person's likeness being used, but never, essentially, a memorial for him.
Thank you. I had actually intended to make another video, but driving along the coast, I came across the body as it is seen in the video. Knowing the full context of the model and the texture’s origins; I was overcome with such sadness. Lying there by the sea in the feral position; I thought they looked so forlorn. Unlike who that may have been in HL2, I did not want them to be forgotten or merely be part of the scenery. Cheers
@MachineYearningChannel You're a very thoughtful individual. You've more than earned my sub with this video and your comments. If it's not too intrusive of a question, do you play gmod at all? I've been a fan of Half Life 2 since I was a kid, deep dove into the cut beta storyline and such over the years. The whole game has been a hyperfixation of mine since my childhood. I'd love to potentially discuss aspects of the story and characters with you outside of youtube if possible, as your thoughtfulness and insight on these matters is quite admirable and intriguing. You're an incredibly well spoken individual as well, and I greatly respect that.
Literally was just playing Gmod there to make a new thumbnail for my first vid! Our paths are much the same, played HL1 in 2003 or so, HL2 in 2005 and was introduced to Garry's Mod 9.0.4 on New Year's Eve that same year. Have also sunk my teeth deep into the HL2 beta lore and all its dark and griddy goodness To get in touch, I think I'll make a Machine Yearning Discord channel shortly, so I'll get back to you on that soon :) Thank you for all your kind words. Cheers!
@MachineYearningChannel You know the cursed phrase too, "Dark And Griddy", lol. And hell yea, update tf outta me when you got it figured out. Thanks man. Have a good one. I'll be looking forward to your future uploads
Totally fair, the difference being I suppose is that you would have given your consent to such a thing, something not afforded to the poor man in question. Hopefully, when your time comes, whatever wishes you may have for how you want to be remembered come to pass. Cheers
Quite. Have you ever considered that Malcolm, from Malcom in the Middle, only became the middle child when Jamie was born? Did you question that too? Much to think about
I have no idea how the individual would feel about the concept... But for me, I think this would be a fate I could accept. I am both remembered and forgotten, even among the loss, I am still there, I am a subtle touch that helps brings a piece of art together. It becomes casual, the sadness of whatever would have happened to me to be a reference photo goes from a tragic moment, to something that made people enjoy what I brought once more. in that I could find peace. So I hope they can feel similar, though we'll never know.
I think that’s a totally fair take. I hope that you may be remembered in a way you want to be, but let us celebrate the wonderful life we live now! Cheers
I tend to stop looking now whenever i see a citizen on the ground in hl2, not out of fear anymore cus i'll be honest it did used to scare me growing up, but now I just feel saddened whenever i see it, a real death shouldn't be background filler in a game.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s why I didn’t include their face. Death is a tragedy, not a means to an end to making the art pipeline of a game easier or more realistic. Cheers
I'm pretty sure Marc Laidlaw did the voices for the classic zombies. Fast zombies use a mix of stock sounds and I have no idea about the poison zombies.
A vid about that would do crazy numbers, but I’m gonna have to be ethical and not spread misinformation lol If we don’t see HL3 soon though; the gloves are off…
When I first saw the face on r/eyeblech, I thought it reminded me of a model that I saw every time I boot up half life 2 or Garry’s mod. It was really weird that the source of the photograph, is still unknown. I never thought posting the image on the left 4 dead modding discord, would cause a rabbit hole in my making. I do want to know what medical textbook that image was printed on, but unfortunately, this book is possibly long gone or worse, becoming lost media. Anyways, it’s better to leave something long gone in the past, rather than to dig it up again. My search for the textbook was futile, but it’s better that way I suppose.
@ yeah, it was pretty surprising that this was recommended to me. Also, I am the one who made the first connection with the image and the model. I just didn’t think that a person from that L4DM discord would take my finding to the valve cut content discord and then have richter overtime to cover it with my name in the description of the video. I do have more proof of my own account with the date of discovery and my personal take on it, if you’re interested. (Sorry had to delete my reply to have the @ to work)
It is not one should expect or have to confront in a game unless you are specifically warned about it, at which point, it is up to the consumer if they want to purchase and play the game. It is not right morally at all, but I put it down to a lack of tact than any sort of nefarious intent. We’ve all done things we regret, but Valve have a history of absolute radio silence when they don’t want to comment on something. Perhaps they fear retroactive legal retribution if they bring more attention to the situation if they swapped the texture out, it’s hard to say. They may perhaps have had consent all along, at which point, I would question the lack of any content warning seeing as the game has been updated numerous times since it released as the industry has made strides towards becoming a safer place to work. Cheers for the comment :)
A sane mind will always be perturbed by real violence. Like the other well-known story of the devs for Dead Space traumatized by the reference folder full of hardcore gore, there seems to be a subconscious awareness of the only objective truth in the universe that leads to a visceral reaction once it's brought to the conscious mind: Death is the only absolute for anything alive, including us. We can prepare, we can plan, we can be at peace with it, but it will always elicit a visceral reaction that takes a lot of steps to grasp and comprehend. Finding such a grim reminder in such an escapist medium makes it all the more sharp. Like a plunge into a cold lake, the knowledge re-frames everything, in a single instant. But pretty much like life itself, we go on. I'm certain that many others who are aware of the story, like me, whenever they found corpse01.mdl in the game, took a brief pause to remember and ruminate on the reality behind those polygons only to continue playing, perhaps slightly shook by the encounter, but still. It is, after all, the only thing we can do, because Death is the only absolute. However, if it is an absolute truth that the journey ends, then it is also an absolute truth that there is a journey. It's a beautiful video. Thank you for sharing :)
Even at its goriest, video game violence is still extremely sanitised compared to real life. There’s also still a huge mental barrier between digital characters and real people, despite how far real-time graphics have come. I’ve played violent games my whole life, but accidentally cutting my finger makes me queasy. Years ago, I saw a stage adaptation of Let The Right One in which opens with a man having his throat slit and hoisted upside down. Compared to something like Gears of War, on paper it would appear trivial , but seeing it acted out with real actors was so visceral and “real” that it disturbed me far more than anything I’ve seen in a game or film and TV. The difference with Half-Life 2 is its use of photography I suppose, with the terribly burnt and disfigured face of a man plastered onto a model, and with now knowing it’s real, I feel I cannot look at them anymore without a sense of shame. And as you say, death comes for us all, so it makes sense it triggers something deep inside of us, but it’s not something we can allow to paralyse us. Most of humanity’s existence, we were exposed to a lot of death and violence, and yet we managed to go on. I suppose not experiencing that in our own lives makes real violence all the more shocking to us. Thank you very much for your eloquent and well thought comment - perhaps you should start making some video essays of your own! Cheers, Machine Yearning
I watcged this thinking this was some thousand sub channel. 43 subscribers. 33 views. this is insanely underrated, the video quality and commentary is amazing.. I hope this blows up. I love the content. beautiful video.
And since people are talking about this why does nobody mention that the man valve got photos of to make eli vance is probably dead and we dont even know his name or anything about him other than his face??
Oh and another example of a dead person being in half life 2 is the cheaple model but we do know who he was and the model itself is almost impossible to see ingame unless you are looking for it
I still can’t get over the fact that people took a random Reddit comment with no sources and ran with it, which sensationalized things even further. Rest in peace, sir. You deserved better than to have people spreading rumors about your death. Edit for clarification: I’m talking about those mafia rumors, which I haven’t seen proof of.
Hi there. Unfortunately, it is pretty verifiable. I really wish it were just speculation. Everything from the reference photo lines up, including the teeth. Some edits were made, but yeah, it’s quite grim. I really appreciate that you’d question something like this though, it’s wise to have a fistful of salt to hand when stories such of these crop up. Cheers
Ah gotcha. Apologies for missing what you were saying there. I’m not sure where the rumours stemmed from either. I suppose there’s probably evidence that the mafia and cartels have done similar things to victims in the past, but really, it could be anything. Cheers
@ Cheers to you, too! I think it came from a single Reddit comment shown on Richter Overtime’s video on the subject. The rumors remind me of when people started saying lies about a 14 year old streamer named Rorochan’s death to make it more disturbing than it already was, like: -Rorochan’s viewers telling her to jump. (Her chat was made up of disturbed creeps and confused viewers who had no idea she was gonna jump. But the chat was mainly telling her to go back to her room.) -Her parents were abusive. (Her mother was strict, but not abusive.) -The Japanese FBI got rid of the video. (There is no such thing as a “Japanese FBI.”) Spreading rumors about a dead person to either make the situation seem worse or to make the dead person look bad is one of the lowest things anyone could do.
In the internet age “He said, she said” can become dangerous very quickly. I find myself thinking about the plot to MGS2 more and more as the years go by. Max Derrat did a great video on it called “The Most Profound Moment in Gaming History” if you haven’t seen it already. Cheers!
@@true_ukrainian_patriot Unfortunately, I don't know much but there were two Ukranian women who skinned a dog and took photos of it. (I do not know the full story, sorry)
This video left me lost in unending thoughts. I can’t even imagine how terrifying it would be to play this game as the relative of that person, seeing his burned face over and over again. Thank you for this video.
I had assumed that after donating their body to science, whoever this person once was hadn't of thought their face would be half immortalised in a sandbox game where millions of people (including children) would use their body in ordinary gameplay, unaware that this was once the face of an actual human being. Even before it was discovered, it just had too much detail to be a texture made from scratch so when I found out, I half expected it. It's a thought that lingers in the back of my mind but whenever I see the corpse model I can't help but remember that it wasn't just a texture but one with a grim origin. Personally I don't have any issues with it, for me the fact it isn't 1:1 with the original image is sufficient enough for me and I highly doubt the model was used for people to mock the face itself people just use this model because it's simply just there. Tiere wasn't any malicious intent behind it and that's enough for me.
Very well said. I agree that before anyone knew, there wasn’t really anything particularly malicious about it, other than it just being gruesome in the first place. After years and years of seeing it though, I think we all just became a bit numb to it. The face texture is sadly almost 1:1 with the real thing, save for a few edits, which is why I feel so uncomfortable about the situation. Thank you for your comment
No sé si me vayas a leer o tomarte la molestia de traducir mi comentario, pero si lo escribía en inglés, no iba a alcanzar a escribir mis sentimientos de manera tan precisa. Realmente me sorprendiste con este video, ya que nunca me había tomado muy en serio el tema, pero tu reflexión sensible, tu sensatez al hablar, y más que nada tu reflexión sobre "¿cómo te sentirías si este fuera tu mejor amigo?" me dejaron pensando seriamente en el tema. De verdad que te agradezco por este video, muy pocas veces en la vida uno se encuentra con uno de este estilo ❤.
Thank you for your very kind words and sharing your own thoughts with myself and the world. I cannot overstate just how much your comment means to me, and the fact you opted to make it in your native tongue makes it all the more impactful. I’m really glad my video found its way to you. Thank you.
Very respectful take on Corpse01. It won't change much to reduce the grifters making content out of this grim discovery but this is a diamond in the rough.
It's upsetting not a lot of people seem to give a shit that a _real corpse_ is in HL2. When I first played it a week ago, I had to mod out the face myself because no one had done it yet (at least, not in a way I thought was suitable).
I think most of us are privileged enough to be quite distanced from death, or at least the death that takes place in our lives is quite sanitised. I think this - whilst ultimately good - has made violent death something quite abstract. Couple that with how realistic depictions of gore have become. When real imagery is slipped in and made to fit within a game, it can often be indistinguishable from the fiction, so when one is retroactively told that something they saw for the last 20 years was an actual dead body, the effect is probably less pronounced as it has been for you who is new to the game. That is not to excuse it, but to provide context as to why people may feel that way. I'm probably giving people the benefit of the doubt as well, I'm sure there are plenty who genuinely don't care, which is rather sad. My next video will touch on some of these matters, so be sure to keep your eyes peeled. Cheers for the comment :)
@@Vorticough That is because the person hasnt died yet. A person is only considered dead by irreversible cessation of heartbeat and/or brain functions. Either you are dead or you are alive. There is no middle term and it is irreversible.
At least from what i know, he didn't burn to death, he just donated his body to science, where they burned his face, for science. Whoever he was, i hope hes found peace. Thank you for rehumanizing this man.
@dvbz1337 I appreciate your sentiments entirely, but as @demon-goat said, most people at Valve were most likely unaware. That is not to excuse the situation, but so blame is laid at the feet of those weren’t involved at the time. The truth is out there now though, so how you view them today is another thing altogether. Cheers
I personally would like to be remembered for my actions from when I was alive, rather than as an anonymous corpse. I appreciate the sentiment though. Cheers
I'll admit, i never did think deeply on the fact the texture used was a real person, someone with family, friends, loved ones, some most likely still alive, until now. Putting myself in similar shoes, yeah, it would be cool to be immortalised in a game in some way...but without agreeing to it prior, coming to be known as a "funny", creepy plaything for people to play with really is something grim. I personally wouldn't agree to it in the first place given the choice, either. Thank you for the thoughtful video. I think you did it very respectfully.
@@voidhumor274050/50 chance, with how TH-cam randomly deletes comments nowadays. Linkrot is real, and you often see conversations in comment sections reduced to one-sided ramblings at the whims of an uncaring algorithm.
@@voidhumor2740 I said something about how, with our lovely Google overseers (all hail) constantly erasing information, it could just as easily not. As if in an act of self-aware irony, my original comment was shadowbanned. Let this be a warning: information is only permanent if we fight to preserve it.
@@voidhumor2740 I said something about how, with our lovely friends at Google constantly defacing comments, it could just as easily not. As if in an act of self-aware irony, my original comment was silently removed. Let this be a warning: information is only permanent if we fight to preserve it.
I think even if the person originally agreed to a medical textbook photo, using their image like this is still ethically dubious, if I were in Valve's shoes I'd find a suitable replacement texture that still gets the horrific point across. In any case, this is a hood memorial video, I'll have to do a vigil or something later, cheers from across the pond
I agree. It’s one thing to use reference material and then creating something original - though this too could be harmful, but outright using real imagery is pretty insidious. There is no consent to see such a thing from players, and nor did the deceased ever intend it to be shown in such a way. Thank you for your kind words regarding the video :) Cheers
I'm pretty sure this man agreed to donate his body for testing although I'm not 100% sure but All i know is that your words really hit like a punch to the gut, i hope he found peace for the rest of eternity
I never actually thought about it that much, but this is certainly a good way to look at it. Many months ago I did a silly gmod film with some comrades and one decided to use that model, if anyone ever sees said film, just know I didn't mean the usage of the corpse in a disrespectful manner. (I mean it wasn't me that did it but still) I see a lot of people talking about how sad it is that kids blissfully unaware played with the ragdoll on Gmod, and it is, but I also find it sad that so many had to see actual gore at such a young age, and how would you feel if your own mutilated face had been put in a supposed friendly game that ended up traumatizing children? When I die, I wouldn't wish for any poor child to stumble upon my gore in a game they or their caretakers found safe and comforting. Considering that other comment about the beta speed zombie and current poison zombie got me thinking how much gore the Valve artist's had to view, I hope it doesn't give them guilt or distress to this day, it seems like a horrible thing to view.
To think. Photorealism becoming the norm. Taking real photographs of people and turning them into video game actors. Doing that with reference photography and textures. Begging the question, how do we create a believable dead body? With a dead body. And nobody noticed. It was not until this time that people cared. They would look at it and shrug it off. After all, why would anything in fiction be reflective of reality? Creepy for a moment yes, but they wanted it to look that way. The man whose face was burned off didn't want his to look that way. It's unlikely he wanted to die at all. But people die. Everybody dies. For 15 years, people were content to stare a corpse in the face casually, sardonic, or even comical. And nobody minded. Not one. Visual fiction will always be a simulacrum of the real thing. Even now, nobody has seen that dead body except for the medical personnel who did in real life 20+ years ago. We only saw its pixelated imitation in a rectangle of tiny lights. Mediums and the real life that it takes after are not inseparable. They should never be forgotten. Because if you do, you too can forget to empathize. Loses all meaning. And when that happens, millions can stare a corpse in the face for a laugh.
I think you need to start a TH-cam channel, my friend. That was eloquently put. Recently in Edinburgh, a man was decapitated when he got caught under a bus. Being around Halloween, a bunch of young guys assumed the head was a prop and kicked it and picked it up. It was always a dead persons head, but when they realised it was actually real, their perception of it changed in an instant. Fiction offers us a layer of protection from the horrors it depicts, but it is shattered the moment you find out that is anything but. Cheers
@MachineYearningChannel Thank you. I've dabbled in dribs over the years, made one anew I hope to populate further. When it's presentable, you'll be the first to know.
If the family sues Valve for this, they would make a patch which replaces the corpse01 texture with their own version. Not just Half-Life 2, but also most of their Source games that have corpse01.mdl with its original textures, and any third-party Source games which also have this should follow what Valve did
I suppose that would be an easy enough fix for Valve as the games share the same model libraries and what not. Whether or not this will happen, I'm not so sure. I think - as you suggest - if the identity of the person in question got out and the family took legal action, it would be a very different matter entirely. Though I wish justice to be done for the man, in whatever form that may take, I really wouldn't wish for the family to have to become aware of such a thing. Cheers
i always remember playing through half life 2 and seeing that model, it always unsettled the hell out of me, but hey atleast that man gets to live on forever in one of the greatest pieces of gaming ever made but i ain't sure how he would feel about having his burnt face used in a video game? either way i hope he is in a better place
Or, as my video suggests, he is remembered as being dead forever, and never as alive. That’s what prompted me to make this video. The community at large seemed so obsessed with the fact that a dead body was used, rather than the remains of a human being that was once alive, if that makes sense. Hopefully, if they are somehow aware of it, they could take some comfort in it. Cheers
@MachineYearningYT "The community at large seemed so obsessed with the fact that a dead body was used, rather than the remains of a human being that was once alive, if that makes sense." Reddit intellectual coming through lads, make way!
@ honestly in a way it’s like a piece of lost media called “lol superman”. some people wanna find it, some don’t. i think neither of them should be found out
I agree. I wasn’t aware of the “lol superman” thing. To think, so many people spending their time and effort to try and watch a person in the very worst moments of their life before they come crashing to the ground. What else could have been accomplished in that time?
Why are people only now discovering the weird origins of many half life 2 textures, like theres literally real world brands used on some of the textures that valve has no relation to but its so low resolution its almost impossible to notice
What's your source on him having died a gruesome death? Because I had figured-and later saw many people online say the same-that the burning was done post-mortem and the cadaver belonged to an organ donor, and that the face had been burned probably with the express purpose of photographing it and studying how human tissue burns. In the original photo, the burning does look very deliberate, with the skin along the hairline and from the neck down being perfectly intact. If all that really is the case (emphasis on if), then as long as Valve's use of the photograph doesn't violate any copyright, I see no issue with it. Photos of a corpse of that nature are no more sacred than any other photography imo.
It’s pretty much 1:1 with the real reference photo, sadly. It’s clear someone at Valve found the photo, edited it a little bit and put it into the game.
It was not a good way to go out at all. It's believed that he got the Ghost Rider treatment and his face was torched by the mafia. Love your words by the way. Keep it up.
Hi there. There’s conflicting theories as to what happened to them, but yes, I’ve come across that one. I don’t know what to make of it, other than whatever happened, it was clearly tragic. Thank you for you comment. I’ve got more things on the way!
i wonder what this person did in their lifetime, were they living the dream? did they have even a cent to their name? what was their name? wherever they are, if anywhere, i hope they are at peace.
meanwhile valve decided making it canon that the combine killed every last child on earth would be better than them being enslaved because the video game rating system says child slavery = AO rating.
The way I see it, this is good and bad. It is good because this man has now been immortalized in an amazing game and because of this video it may be more well known and his body might be treated with more respect when people play. But it is also bad as it was done in some bad taste with using his face as a prop that can be played or messed with. Do I think that Valve should change it? Yes. Do I think players should respect he corpse when coming across it? Yes. Will either of these ever happen? All we can do is pray.
Memorialising someone in a game could be a great way of paying homage to them, if that is something they wished for in life. I’m not sure if people finding out the texture is based off a real person is better or not, to be honest. I’m sure many will be a bit more respectful, but many won’t care, or worse, find it funny. As you say, all we can do is have this person in our thoughts. Cheers
There is a church called Seventh-day Adventists, where the Bible is not just a book about faith and love but with history recorder over Millenia and translated with over 3,000 languages. Therefore it is NOT written that the dead speak but sleep until the 1st & final resurrection.
there's this part in Anticitizen One where you're in these apartments. If you go upstairs you can see two rooms. One on the left has the corpse on a chair with Breen on the tv, and a zombie in the room. The other has the same corpse with someone on the floor and a revolver next to them like they killed themself. Really disturbing stuff, and then you just go downstairs and outside, and see a Strider right after
After decades of Combine rule and watching the Earth be stripped of what makes it beautiful, I’m not so sure many of us would fare so well either. I think HL2 encapsulates these vignettes of hopelessness very well, but it’s unfortunate that much of them are tarnished by the inclusion of a real dead person. Perhaps that makes it all the more poignant, but it is not up to us to decide for someone else. Cheers
Unless I'm mistaken I think you deliberately avoided showing the face , which is appreciated. I'm not superstitious but this kind of situation is so unnecessary and avoidable, especially since the texture could be patched out. Apparently Mortal Kombat developers were encouraged to use actual gore films as reference, which is fucked up on several levels but it's also Mortal Goddamn Kombat, not exactly known for realism. I think this is probably a deeper issue in artistic industries than I'd like to believe.
Hi there! I did in fact not show the face as I already felt uncomfortable enough making a video about the subject and it did not feel appropriate to include any imagery. There’s a lot of different opinions on what should be done about the texture. Interesting enough, an artist working in HL2 RTX shared their remake of the model. When asked if they used real imagery too, they said they used “‘classic techniques’ to capture the original’s unsettling essence.” That’s quite vague, but hopefully they don’t mean they have used real imagery. I agree that developers watching gore for the sake of video games is wrong. Obviously it is a personal choice and if a dev did that in their own time; that is up to them. Valve had a similar folder full of imagery for L4D2 but found it too unsettling, and so used pink home insulation and potato skins as reference instead. Clearly, there are solutions out there. Thank you for you comment and your thoughts on the matter
@MachineYearningYT You're welcome! I feel pretty strongly about the Mortal Kombat example, as it seems like an extreme expectation for an employer to make, but the HL2 example is bad enough to make one wonder how many other examples are lurking in texture files.
Unfortunately we may never know. I can only imagine what nasty stuff the devs making The Callisto Protocol may have been looking at. Hopefully they weren’t engaging in anything harmful for their sakes.
For what it's worth, his face was burned off *after* death as part of a medical experiment to study burns, and that's why the photo was in a medical textbook. He donated his body to science.
Thank you for offering more context on the matter. Hopefully, whatever end they met, it was peaceful, and we thank them for selflessly donating their body for science. Cheers!
Aren't you blowing this out of the water? Sure it was a real corpse, but it was one donated to the medical industry for research and used in a textbook. They had consented to their corpse being shown to thousands already.
@ the images used in the game are edited as well. It’s not a 1 to 1 depiction of their face. Plus it’s not like people are laughing at them or actually being disrespectful to their memory. Calling for a model swap this late is just dumb.
I think we are all entitled to our emotions, exploring them and sharing them with the world. As I say in the video and as @TheScyphozoa has said, there’s no indication that the man ever agreed to having a photo of his death used in a video game. I’m not necessarily calling for a model swap, I just don’t know what the right call is, but I don’t think mulling the idea is “dumb” Perhaps it was dumb and tactless to find an image of a dead person, edit it in photoshop and then put it in the most-anticipated game of 2004. I don’t think you can say with any authority - as I cannot either - that no one has been laughing or making fun of them all these years. Corpse01.mdl is the player’s used for the “Hobo” in DarkRP, itself a joke on how horrible the model looks and how the creators equated that to homeless people. It’s a complicated and touchy subject and something I’ve thought a lot about, hence why I wanted to make a video on it. You’re more than welcome to discuss it here and the comments and disagree, as am I to disagree with your opinions, but I appreciate yours nonetheless. Cheers
IF i remember correctly the original picture shows that the damages we're done intentionally since only his face is burned and almost nothing else is which makes this a thousand times sadder
@henrycgs I went back to find the original photo. I honestly can't find the actual source of it though, only people's second hand descriptions. Do you have any information about where the image originally came from and what happened to them?
Life can be a blessing. I hope you are able to live one that is full of joy. Perhaps there is something greater that lies beyond the mortal coil, but we cannot be sure, so it is best to live as well as we can whilst we are amongst the living. Cheers
@MachineYearningYT if I had the ability to chosen to me er be born I'd use that wishing power. Life is mostly a mess and we waste far too much time to clean it up and make it slightly better. I don't think my life will get better and therefore I don't really care about it
Hey man, I've been in some dark spots in the past too. It can take a lot of work, but things are much better for me these days than they used to. Keep at it, be proactive and be open to people and opportunities you come across in life. It's easier said than done, but living becomes easier once the ball starts rolling :)
When I die... I don't want to be forgotten, I'm scared of it, to be nothing but a blip, but I know I can be remembered somehow. A game would be wonderful, immortalized in code, pulled and manipulated for whatever the game needs me for. I could die over, and over, and over, and over, yet I'm still alive somewhere in the game
Live your life to fullest. Make art, write, become an actor. But remember, it is more important to be happy in this life, as none of us know what lays beyond. Be sure to make memories that will be remembered fondly by your loved ones.
I think one of the reasons our civilization built monuments, tombs and sculpted gravestone is to remember the dead and who they were, no matter who/what they were. Ever since i knew this was a real corpse, i kinda treated HL2 as a gravestone for a while until it, of course, eventually let it slip my mind. And maybe, just maybe, this person would have treated it as a (very) glorified gravestone as well. But deep down... who knows. It's a big ol' shrug, and that's life...
"Far distant eyes look out through yours. Whose hopes and dreams do you encompass? If you could be see the eyes within your eyes, the minds within your mind, you would see that you... are... us."
It is good thing that you are both compassionate to the deceased person and is respectful for the death. But. I heavily disagree with on the "something should be done" thing. If something begins to be done systematically with the pictures of real (dead or alive) people in videogames (movies, art works, etc) it would be disastrous to our culture while the compassion part being inevitable watered away. The only sane thing to be done is to pause, remember, then proceed to live forward.
Thank you for the comment. I don’t actually call for something to be done; I say I don’t know if something should be done or not, mostly for the reasons you’ve brought up. It’s more of an open question that it up for discussion. I appreciate your thoughts on the matter though, so thank you for lending your words. Cheers
Upon death, your body vacates its bladder and bowels. There is much indignity in death unfortunately, so we must do what we can to remember people as they were in life.
I have to disagree. We exist in people’s minds who we left behind. Perhaps not physically, but you will be emotionally attached to those after you are gone. We cherish inanimate objects such as plushies, or recognise faces in clouds. Humans love connection, and I am sure you will be dearly missed when you eventually pass on to the other side. But in the meantime, get out there and make memories to be cherished. Cheers
Thank you! It’s more conversational than I had envisioned, but I had to make it quickly as I was going on holiday the next day. It all worked out in the end though!
WAAAAAAH I CANT EMPATHISE WITH HUMANS EVEN IN DEATH OH GOD PLEASE SOMEONE SHOW ME SOME AFFECTION I DONT REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I FELT THE EMBRACE OF ANOTHER type aahh comment
@MachineYearningYT For someone who postures themselves as being classy and respectful as your video is clearly designed to suggest, your massive flood of replies are surprisingly full of petty sarcasm, lol.
imagine getting your shit toasted to hell and back and finding out in heaven that for the rest of eternity your legacy is just "decomposed guy face texture in famous video game"
sheeit at least he had a legacy. most dudes who get fried don't get that much love
I mean, yeah. It’s pretty rough, and sometimes it just needs to be called out for what it is.
Cheers
As an avid gamer, I wouldn't even be that mad, especially if my corpse were immortalized in a game as iconic as Half Life 2.
"Aw Hell yeah, I'm in Half-Life?"
@MachineYearningYT Eh you're being dramatic.
I already know the story, but never have I seen a more humble and fitting homage to the person that became corpse01. Cheers
Thank you! I felt a lot of the discourse centred around just how shocking the discovery was, rather than how sad it was and how a man was stripped of his dignity in death.
It’s never sat right with me. I was actually intending to make another video entirely, but I came across the model in Sandtraps, lying there in a serene moment by the sea and it really struck me.
Cheers!
Machine Yearning
@MachineYearningChannel I agree, its really sad how pure shock-value goes above the actual human being behind the scene in alot of cases.
there's a scene in episode 2 that always stuck with me. it's the one where your vort friend comments on the dead body of a rebel who took their own life alone in the mines, that body being represented with the corpse01 model.
it's already a very impactful scene, with the vort describing it as bringing comforting thoughts. but with the added context of the origin of the texture it becomes so much more surreal
Vorts are tone deaf. That does not bring comforting thoughts at all lol
@@NovaProspekt19they have a different relationship to death compared to humans.
It’s a shame, as it is a very impactful scene as you say, but it now borders on the absurd, let alone surreal.
Hopefully, they are at peace
@@NovaProspekt19 In a world ruled by the Combine, the fact that this guy died on his own terms rather than being turned into a Stalker or slowly wasting away on Private Reserve probably IS comforting, in the relative sense.
Imagine dying a horrible death and now a literal child on gmod gets to play with a video game version of your corpse
That is essentially the crux of the matter for me.
It’s bad enough if someone vandalises your gravestone, but to be mocked for millions of hours in a game is quite a sad fate.
@MachineYearningChannel in a metaphysical sense yeah but fortunately the dead do not care
That we’re aware of. There is an an untold number of things in the universe that we don’t understand, or have even conceptualised for ourselves.
I’m not religious, but none of us know what lies beyond, therefore I don’t rule anything out.
All I can do is live my life and hope for the best that maybe there is something more, but if not, I hope to have 0 regrets going out.
Cheers
That was me in the mid 2010's. Didn't play HL2 until a few years later.
I'd be so happy about it tbh, you get to bring joy to people forever
Sad/Creepy fact: It may not be the only one that was accidentally immortalized in Half-Life. The beta model of the fast zombie and the current poison zombie face textures both look very realistic compared to the ones of a normal zombie or of a modern fast zombie.
That is sad. I’m glad they weren’t included in the retail game
@MachineYearningChannel poison zombie face texture still appears in the game best way to see is via the eyes
I was curious and looked it up, the beta fast zombie looks low quality but quite realistic yes, and the poison zombie, while a bit choppily edited, looks too real, so unfortunately this can very well be the case.
He was a good man. What a rotten way to die...
What a shame... *audible voice actor lip smack*
@@gryzewWhy are you locked in the bathroom?
@@gryzewhold on, I need to drop something…. Heh heh
considering the image is from a medical textbook, he probably didnt die a horrible death. i assume he just donated his body to science, and for science, they did that to his body. its still bad of course, but at least its (hopefully) not how he died. still, my condolences to him and his family.
He donated his body to science, they burned hes face after his death
Beautiful video, and R.I.P to the person behind the face.
After it became apparent the HL2 20th anniversary edition would relesae, I was hoping they would completely replace this texture. Surely re-uploads would exist, nothing is truly gone in the internet or so they say, but it would at least correct a big mistake made that many years ago. At the same time, I unfortunately believe this is way more common than we assume, especially in older games and media. Perhaps not anymore, though then again only a few years ago did a sci-fi movie trailer use real life footage of the 2020 Beirut explosion with some overlayed filters to make it look a bit different. Of course, none of this excuses what Valve did. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Given that you bring up this topic again though, there is one thing I've always wondered about regarding the whole situation, which is that nobody has found the source of the image yet. Most people are probably just assuming it's a random burned body that was then used in a medical book, but looking at the real image this can't be the case. The person's hair was completely untouched, and there was a very clear line in the face between burned and not burned at the hairline, which would never happen naturally to a burn victim or similar. So there's only 2 scenarios that could be true regarding the death of the person:
1. The person fell victim to the cartel, mafia or similar, and they decided to do a very precise burning of their face.
2. It was done by scientists in the name of science, the person agreed before their death to have their body be donated and for their face to be burned post-mortem, and for them to be included in a medical book.
If the first is true then what Valve did would be very f*cked up, but that scenario also sounds made up. The second scenario could perhaps add more nuance to the conversation, and is probably true. I'm sure they never agreed verbally to be included in Half-Life 2 directly though of course, so for me personally it would still be an overall wrong. But still, this is why the situation makes me wonder, why has nobody ever gone and searched for this supposed medical book? Why can't anybody clearly identify this person? This was the biggest story in the Half-Life/GMod/Source/Valve community for like a month and it remains controversial, and nobody cared to go look? From all I can tell, the claim "it's from a medical book" remains an unsourced claim, even if I personally believe it.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment and your insights into the matter. The Beiruit explosion being used in media was also very icky. There was a War Thunder expansion which used the explosion of the Challenger Space Shuttle as well, though the devs came out and apologised for this saying they didn't realise that is what it was.
I am of the belief that it is the latter option; that the photo came from a medical textbook. If that is the case, then the image that went around must have been scanned in or be included in a PDF version of the book.
Ultimately though, I'm not particularly keen on finding the source, though I'm sure someone maybe will.
Cheers
Believe it or not, i remember actually finding the textbook it was in, and i believe it had a credit to the person who donated their body (but im not sure), but am unable to find it. I think i found it linked somewhere on some reddit thread.
I think being immortalized in the game is pretty good too
Not something you see everyday and considering how big the Half Life series is I'd consider it an honor tbh. I wonder if they ever identified the person who died like where they were from and what their name was.
I agree that it could be. We remember great actors who are immortalised forever in all sorts of mediums, but we remember them as they were alive, not as a disfigured corpse that have no agency or say in how they are perceived.
In death, the Pharaoh’s had beautiful ornate sarcophagi and imposing pyramids (though often at the cost of the living)
I think deep down we all want to be remembered, it’s probably part of why I started this channel.
How we are remembered is perhaps more important than being remembered at all
I'll forever remember you for that video... As that half life kid who paid tribute to a persons corpse nobody cared about@MachineYearningYT
You my friend have something many overly lack called... Empathy
And you must too to recognise it in others :)
Cheers
Empathy frankly is overrated. It's just something others use to manipulate you.
our "benefactors" dont want empathy in this world
@@soldier22881Yes they do, empathy is how (((they))) manipulate you.
I think he'd be more upset about what happened to his face.
Perhaps, but they willingly donated their body to science.
We can only hope that if they are somehow conscious to it, they did not come to regret it
@MachineYearningYT honestly this makes me think, eventually everyone in all 1970s-2000s era media will have passed away, yet its likely that culture will still be embraced, people will be thinking of actors like patrick stewart and the people involved in the creation of half life 2 after all the people involved have long passed away, after even the newest buildings are under historical protections and even after things like personal computers start to hit 150/200, people say we will be forgotten because all of the forgotten 1800s era media but people don't understand that not only is information storage unfathomably better now, but theres billions more people on earth, for most of the 1800s we were under a billion people, america only had five million!
"A poignant scene. An eternity's repose. It brings peaceful thoughts, does it not?"
Hopefully something like Vortessence is real, and we can join an endless sea of souls from the universe and know peace
You're the first person I've ever seen to make this video, fantastic job. I've seen plenty of folks draw attention to the fact that it's a real person's likeness being used, but never, essentially, a memorial for him.
Thank you. I had actually intended to make another video, but driving along the coast, I came across the body as it is seen in the video.
Knowing the full context of the model and the texture’s origins; I was overcome with such sadness.
Lying there by the sea in the feral position; I thought they looked so forlorn.
Unlike who that may have been in HL2, I did not want them to be forgotten or merely be part of the scenery.
Cheers
@MachineYearningChannel You're a very thoughtful individual. You've more than earned my sub with this video and your comments. If it's not too intrusive of a question, do you play gmod at all? I've been a fan of Half Life 2 since I was a kid, deep dove into the cut beta storyline and such over the years. The whole game has been a hyperfixation of mine since my childhood. I'd love to potentially discuss aspects of the story and characters with you outside of youtube if possible, as your thoughtfulness and insight on these matters is quite admirable and intriguing. You're an incredibly well spoken individual as well, and I greatly respect that.
Literally was just playing Gmod there to make a new thumbnail for my first vid! Our paths are much the same, played HL1 in 2003 or so, HL2 in 2005 and was introduced to Garry's Mod 9.0.4 on New Year's Eve that same year.
Have also sunk my teeth deep into the HL2 beta lore and all its dark and griddy goodness
To get in touch, I think I'll make a Machine Yearning Discord channel shortly, so I'll get back to you on that soon :)
Thank you for all your kind words. Cheers!
@MachineYearningChannel You know the cursed phrase too, "Dark And Griddy", lol.
And hell yea, update tf outta me when you got it figured out. Thanks man. Have a good one.
I'll be looking forward to your future uploads
@RadiationHazardYT notice me
I’d be happy to be a corpse model in a significant and influential game that still holds up almost 20 years after its release
Totally fair, the difference being I suppose is that you would have given your consent to such a thing, something not afforded to the poor man in question.
Hopefully, when your time comes, whatever wishes you may have for how you want to be remembered come to pass.
Cheers
Usually when you die, you’re dead forever
Quite.
Have you ever considered that Malcolm, from Malcom in the Middle, only became the middle child when Jamie was born?
Did you question that too? Much to think about
I have no idea how the individual would feel about the concept...
But for me, I think this would be a fate I could accept. I am both remembered and forgotten, even among the loss, I am still there, I am a subtle touch that helps brings a piece of art together. It becomes casual, the sadness of whatever would have happened to me to be a reference photo goes from a tragic moment, to something that made people enjoy what I brought once more.
in that I could find peace.
So I hope they can feel similar, though we'll never know.
I think that’s a totally fair take. I hope that you may be remembered in a way you want to be, but let us celebrate the wonderful life we live now!
Cheers
This is such a beautiful piece of homage.
Thank you ❤️
I tend to stop looking now whenever i see a citizen on the ground in hl2, not out of fear anymore cus i'll be honest it did used to scare me growing up, but now I just feel saddened whenever i see it, a real death shouldn't be background filler in a game.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s why I didn’t include their face.
Death is a tragedy, not a means to an end to making the art pipeline of a game easier or more realistic.
Cheers
Next we find out that valve burned people alive and reversed their screams to make the zombie sounds.
I'm pretty sure Marc Laidlaw did the voices for the classic zombies. Fast zombies use a mix of stock sounds and I have no idea about the poison zombies.
A vid about that would do crazy numbers, but I’m gonna have to be ethical and not spread misinformation lol
If we don’t see HL3 soon though; the gloves are off…
@@CubicApocalypse128The poison zombie uses stock sound effects as well.
When I first saw the face on r/eyeblech, I thought it reminded me of a model that I saw every time I boot up half life 2 or Garry’s mod. It was really weird that the source of the photograph, is still unknown. I never thought posting the image on the left 4 dead modding discord, would cause a rabbit hole in my making. I do want to know what medical textbook that image was printed on, but unfortunately, this book is possibly long gone or worse, becoming lost media.
Anyways, it’s better to leave something long gone in the past, rather than to dig it up again. My search for the textbook was futile, but it’s better that way I suppose.
Are you the one who first made the connection, then?
If so, how interesting this video made its way back to you after all this time.
@ yeah, it was pretty surprising that this was recommended to me.
Also, I am the one who made the first connection with the image and the model.
I just didn’t think that a person from that L4DM discord would take my finding to the valve cut content discord and then have richter overtime to cover it with my name in the description of the video.
I do have more proof of my own account with the date of discovery and my personal take on it, if you’re interested.
(Sorry had to delete my reply to have the @ to work)
@MachineYearningYT sorry, going to test this to see if TH-cam is just being stubborn with the @
What a moving eulogy..
Thank you ❤️
I've always found it a bit off-putting that Valve chose to use a real image of a dead person in their game. It doesn't feel right morally speaking.
It is not one should expect or have to confront in a game unless you are specifically warned about it, at which point, it is up to the consumer if they want to purchase and play the game.
It is not right morally at all, but I put it down to a lack of tact than any sort of nefarious intent.
We’ve all done things we regret, but Valve have a history of absolute radio silence when they don’t want to comment on something.
Perhaps they fear retroactive legal retribution if they bring more attention to the situation if they swapped the texture out, it’s hard to say.
They may perhaps have had consent all along, at which point, I would question the lack of any content warning seeing as the game has been updated numerous times since it released as the industry has made strides towards becoming a safer place to work.
Cheers for the comment :)
A sane mind will always be perturbed by real violence. Like the other well-known story of the devs for Dead Space traumatized by the reference folder full of hardcore gore, there seems to be a subconscious awareness of the only objective truth in the universe that leads to a visceral reaction once it's brought to the conscious mind:
Death is the only absolute for anything alive, including us.
We can prepare, we can plan, we can be at peace with it, but it will always elicit a visceral reaction that takes a lot of steps to grasp and comprehend. Finding such a grim reminder in such an escapist medium makes it all the more sharp. Like a plunge into a cold lake, the knowledge re-frames everything, in a single instant.
But pretty much like life itself, we go on. I'm certain that many others who are aware of the story, like me, whenever they found corpse01.mdl in the game, took a brief pause to remember and ruminate on the reality behind those polygons only to continue playing, perhaps slightly shook by the encounter, but still.
It is, after all, the only thing we can do, because Death is the only absolute.
However, if it is an absolute truth that the journey ends, then it is also an absolute truth that there is a journey.
It's a beautiful video. Thank you for sharing :)
Even at its goriest, video game violence is still extremely sanitised compared to real life.
There’s also still a huge mental barrier between digital characters and real people, despite how far real-time graphics have come.
I’ve played violent games my whole life, but accidentally cutting my finger makes me queasy.
Years ago, I saw a stage adaptation of Let The Right One in which opens with a man having his throat slit and hoisted upside down. Compared to something like Gears of War, on paper it would appear trivial , but seeing it acted out with real actors was so visceral and “real” that it disturbed me far more than anything I’ve seen in a game or film and TV.
The difference with Half-Life 2 is its use of photography I suppose, with the terribly burnt and disfigured face of a man plastered onto a model, and with now knowing it’s real, I feel I cannot look at them anymore without a sense of shame.
And as you say, death comes for us all, so it makes sense it triggers something deep inside of us, but it’s not something we can allow to paralyse us.
Most of humanity’s existence, we were exposed to a lot of death and violence, and yet we managed to go on.
I suppose not experiencing that in our own lives makes real violence all the more shocking to us.
Thank you very much for your eloquent and well thought comment - perhaps you should start making some video essays of your own!
Cheers,
Machine Yearning
Beautiful, brother.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I watcged this thinking this was some thousand sub channel. 43 subscribers. 33 views.
this is insanely underrated, the video quality and commentary is amazing..
I hope this blows up. I love the content. beautiful video.
Thank you so much! We’ve all got to start somewhere and I’m just grateful I’m getting views at all :)
I really refreshing seeing someone treat this topic with the respect it deserves. Good one.
Thank you! I’m honoured you liked it, duckwithhats
And since people are talking about this why does nobody mention that the man valve got photos of to make eli vance is probably dead and we dont even know his name or anything about him other than his face??
Oh and another example of a dead person being in half life 2 is the cheaple model but we do know who he was and the model itself is almost impossible to see ingame unless you are looking for it
wait how is cheaple dead too?
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 He died irl, but he isn't dead in the photo
@@calyxman well i fail to see how that's relevant,watch any 20+ year old movie and you will see a lot of dead people too
@@marcowulliampopirers2216yea, especially background characters in really old movies, well never know who they are.
Beautiful and well spoken
Thank you
I still can’t get over the fact that people took a random Reddit comment with no sources and ran with it, which sensationalized things even further. Rest in peace, sir. You deserved better than to have people spreading rumors about your death.
Edit for clarification: I’m talking about those mafia rumors, which I haven’t seen proof of.
Hi there. Unfortunately, it is pretty verifiable. I really wish it were just speculation.
Everything from the reference photo lines up, including the teeth.
Some edits were made, but yeah, it’s quite grim.
I really appreciate that you’d question something like this though, it’s wise to have a fistful of salt to hand when stories such of these crop up.
Cheers
@ If you didn’t know, I was talking about the mafia rumors.
Ah gotcha. Apologies for missing what you were saying there.
I’m not sure where the rumours stemmed from either. I suppose there’s probably evidence that the mafia and cartels have done similar things to victims in the past, but really, it could be anything.
Cheers
@ Cheers to you, too! I think it came from a single Reddit comment shown on Richter Overtime’s video on the subject. The rumors remind me of when people started saying lies about a 14 year old streamer named Rorochan’s death to make it more disturbing than it already was, like:
-Rorochan’s viewers telling her to jump. (Her chat was made up of disturbed creeps and confused viewers who had no idea she was gonna jump. But the chat was mainly telling her to go back to her room.)
-Her parents were abusive. (Her mother was strict, but not abusive.)
-The Japanese FBI got rid of the video. (There is no such thing as a “Japanese FBI.”)
Spreading rumors about a dead person to either make the situation seem worse or to make the dead person look bad is one of the lowest things anyone could do.
In the internet age “He said, she said” can become dangerous very quickly.
I find myself thinking about the plot to MGS2 more and more as the years go by.
Max Derrat did a great video on it called “The Most Profound Moment in Gaming History” if you haven’t seen it already.
Cheers!
This somewhat reminds me of how SCP:CB used actual animal gore of a poor skinned dog from Ukraine as a creepy photo for SCP-895's camera manipulation.
This was bound to be mentioned here
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what is the story behind the poor dog?
@@true_ukrainian_patriot Unfortunately, I don't know much but there were two Ukranian women who skinned a dog and took photos of it. (I do not know the full story, sorry)
@RSMC_15 I searched online and found more details. Horrible case of animal cruelty...
This video left me lost in unending thoughts. I can’t even imagine how terrifying it would be to play this game as the relative of that person, seeing his burned face over and over again. Thank you for this video.
Hopefully, none of their loved ones ever came to know what happened.
Thank you for your message and your compassion towards them.
your compassion and thoughtfulness are greatly appreciated. thank you for making this beautiful video
Thank you, as are your kind words :)
its nice to see people still actually think introspectively
Thank you. Hopefully we can course correct from the horrible discourse of this ever decisive world
I had assumed that after donating their body to science, whoever this person once was hadn't of thought their face would be half immortalised in a sandbox game where millions of people (including children) would use their body in ordinary gameplay, unaware that this was once the face of an actual human being.
Even before it was discovered, it just had too much detail to be a texture made from scratch so when I found out, I half expected it. It's a thought that lingers in the back of my mind but whenever I see the corpse model I can't help but remember that it wasn't just a texture but one with a grim origin. Personally I don't have any issues with it, for me the fact it isn't 1:1 with the original image is sufficient enough for me and I highly doubt the model was used for people to mock the face itself people just use this model because it's simply just there. Tiere wasn't any malicious intent behind it and that's enough for me.
Very well said. I agree that before anyone knew, there wasn’t really anything particularly malicious about it, other than it just being gruesome in the first place. After years and years of seeing it though, I think we all just became a bit numb to it.
The face texture is sadly almost 1:1 with the real thing, save for a few edits, which is why I feel so uncomfortable about the situation.
Thank you for your comment
No sé si me vayas a leer o tomarte la molestia de traducir mi comentario, pero si lo escribía en inglés, no iba a alcanzar a escribir mis sentimientos de manera tan precisa.
Realmente me sorprendiste con este video, ya que nunca me había tomado muy en serio el tema, pero tu reflexión sensible, tu sensatez al hablar, y más que nada tu reflexión sobre "¿cómo te sentirías si este fuera tu mejor amigo?" me dejaron pensando seriamente en el tema. De verdad que te agradezco por este video, muy pocas veces en la vida uno se encuentra con uno de este estilo ❤.
Thank you for your very kind words and sharing your own thoughts with myself and the world.
I cannot overstate just how much your comment means to me, and the fact you opted to make it in your native tongue makes it all the more impactful.
I’m really glad my video found its way to you.
Thank you.
@MachineYearningChannel love from Argentina 🇦🇷
0:18 Was it only Richter Overtime? Also, I heard the picture was edited to remove a eye.
Very respectful take on Corpse01. It won't change much to reduce the grifters making content out of this grim discovery but this is a diamond in the rough.
It's upsetting not a lot of people seem to give a shit that a _real corpse_ is in HL2. When I first played it a week ago, I had to mod out the face myself because no one had done it yet (at least, not in a way I thought was suitable).
I think most of us are privileged enough to be quite distanced from death, or at least the death that takes place in our lives is quite sanitised. I think this - whilst ultimately good - has made violent death something quite abstract.
Couple that with how realistic depictions of gore have become. When real imagery is slipped in and made to fit within a game, it can often be indistinguishable from the fiction, so when one is retroactively told that something they saw for the last 20 years was an actual dead body, the effect is probably less pronounced as it has been for you who is new to the game.
That is not to excuse it, but to provide context as to why people may feel that way. I'm probably giving people the benefit of the doubt as well, I'm sure there are plenty who genuinely don't care, which is rather sad.
My next video will touch on some of these matters, so be sure to keep your eyes peeled.
Cheers for the comment :)
>a corpse in our game was modeled on an actual person, oh no how terrible
*Hong Kong 97 be like:*
theres no point or reason to try and "one up" this, thats just screwed up
it's not just "modeled on" on a real person. It literally uses a picture of his corpse as the texture.
@@jug0572 Just remember
*It can always get worse*
Even more fucked up is that the guy could've been a victim of genocide, that whole game is an enigma in one's thought process
@@360Nomad stop being an edgy little dweeb. what are you, thirteen? grow up
I'm not sure if there is a way to be dead temporarily...
sometimes you can revive a dead person if it hasn't been too long since their heart has stopped
@@Vorticough That is because the person hasnt died yet. A person is only considered dead by irreversible cessation of heartbeat and/or brain functions. Either you are dead or you are alive. There is no middle term and it is irreversible.
Perhaps not yet, at least…
It was likely meant as in immortalized, or inseparable from the game.
At least from what i know, he didn't burn to death, he just donated his body to science, where they burned his face, for science. Whoever he was, i hope hes found peace. Thank you for rehumanizing this man.
Knowing that Valve used a photo of a real person's corpse in their game honestly makes me lose a little respect for them.
it’s likely many developers at valve never knew or realised the true nature of the texture, although I relate to your feeling
@dvbz1337 I appreciate your sentiments entirely, but as @demon-goat said, most people at Valve were most likely unaware.
That is not to excuse the situation, but so blame is laid at the feet of those weren’t involved at the time.
The truth is out there now though, so how you view them today is another thing altogether.
Cheers
I agree, but this was also 20 years ago, and as MachineLearning said, we don't know the full process of how it was added.
I mean, could be worse. At least this person left something behind that'll be remembered for a long time
I personally would like to be remembered for my actions from when I was alive, rather than as an anonymous corpse.
I appreciate the sentiment though.
Cheers
I'll admit, i never did think deeply on the fact the texture used was a real person, someone with family, friends, loved ones, some most likely still alive, until now. Putting myself in similar shoes, yeah, it would be cool to be immortalised in a game in some way...but without agreeing to it prior, coming to be known as a "funny", creepy plaything for people to play with really is something grim. I personally wouldn't agree to it in the first place given the choice, either. Thank you for the thoughtful video. I think you did it very respectfully.
The unavoidable destiny we all march towards. The only difference some march forever.
ironically this comment will proly outlive you
@@voidhumor274050/50 chance, with how TH-cam randomly deletes comments nowadays. Linkrot is real, and you often see conversations in comment sections reduced to one-sided ramblings at the whims of an uncaring algorithm.
Very well put, thank you.
@@voidhumor2740 I said something about how, with our lovely Google overseers (all hail) constantly erasing information, it could just as easily not. As if in an act of self-aware irony, my original comment was shadowbanned. Let this be a warning: information is only permanent if we fight to preserve it.
@@voidhumor2740 I said something about how, with our lovely friends at Google constantly defacing comments, it could just as easily not. As if in an act of self-aware irony, my original comment was silently removed. Let this be a warning: information is only permanent if we fight to preserve it.
I think even if the person originally agreed to a medical textbook photo, using their image like this is still ethically dubious, if I were in Valve's shoes I'd find a suitable replacement texture that still gets the horrific point across.
In any case, this is a hood memorial video, I'll have to do a vigil or something later, cheers from across the pond
I agree. It’s one thing to use reference material and then creating something original - though this too could be harmful, but outright using real imagery is pretty insidious.
There is no consent to see such a thing from players, and nor did the deceased ever intend it to be shown in such a way.
Thank you for your kind words regarding the video :)
Cheers
Seeing his bloodshot eye recessed into the socket is the most unnerving part, especially the way they pasted it across both eyes
It’s particularly grim. I don’t like to imagine what the last things those eyes saw
I'm pretty sure this man agreed to donate his body for testing although I'm not 100% sure but All i know is that your words really hit like a punch to the gut, i hope he found peace for the rest of eternity
I never actually thought about it that much, but this is certainly a good way to look at it. Many months ago I did a silly gmod film with some comrades and one decided to use that model, if anyone ever sees said film, just know I didn't mean the usage of the corpse in a disrespectful manner. (I mean it wasn't me that did it but still)
I see a lot of people talking about how sad it is that kids blissfully unaware played with the ragdoll on Gmod, and it is, but I also find it sad that so many had to see actual gore at such a young age, and how would you feel if your own mutilated face had been put in a supposed friendly game that ended up traumatizing children? When I die, I wouldn't wish for any poor child to stumble upon my gore in a game they or their caretakers found safe and comforting.
Considering that other comment about the beta speed zombie and current poison zombie got me thinking how much gore the Valve artist's had to view, I hope it doesn't give them guilt or distress to this day, it seems like a horrible thing to view.
I don't have much else to say about the victim himself, as anything I could say was already said by you or the other comments.
watching this video is like attending his funeral
Fantastic video. Great editing. I always had this weird feeling whenever seeing the model after realizing what it was. Just didn’t feel right
Thank you for the kind words.
I had much the same feelings, and I put this video out there in the hopes that others would too.
Cheers
To think. Photorealism becoming the norm. Taking real photographs of people and turning them into video game actors. Doing that with reference photography and textures. Begging the question, how do we create a believable dead body? With a dead body. And nobody noticed. It was not until this time that people cared. They would look at it and shrug it off. After all, why would anything in fiction be reflective of reality? Creepy for a moment yes, but they wanted it to look that way. The man whose face was burned off didn't want his to look that way. It's unlikely he wanted to die at all. But people die. Everybody dies. For 15 years, people were content to stare a corpse in the face casually, sardonic, or even comical. And nobody minded. Not one. Visual fiction will always be a simulacrum of the real thing. Even now, nobody has seen that dead body except for the medical personnel who did in real life 20+ years ago. We only saw its pixelated imitation in a rectangle of tiny lights. Mediums and the real life that it takes after are not inseparable. They should never be forgotten. Because if you do, you too can forget to empathize. Loses all meaning. And when that happens, millions can stare a corpse in the face for a laugh.
Excelently said 💁🏻♂️
I think you need to start a TH-cam channel, my friend. That was eloquently put.
Recently in Edinburgh, a man was decapitated when he got caught under a bus.
Being around Halloween, a bunch of young guys assumed the head was a prop and kicked it and picked it up.
It was always a dead persons head, but when they realised it was actually real, their perception of it changed in an instant.
Fiction offers us a layer of protection from the horrors it depicts, but it is shattered the moment you find out that is anything but.
Cheers
@MachineYearningChannel Thank you. I've dabbled in dribs over the years, made one anew I hope to populate further. When it's presentable, you'll be the first to know.
Looking forward to it!
If the family sues Valve for this, they would make a patch which replaces the corpse01 texture with their own version. Not just Half-Life 2, but also most of their Source games that have corpse01.mdl with its original textures, and any third-party Source games which also have this should follow what Valve did
I suppose that would be an easy enough fix for Valve as the games share the same model libraries and what not. Whether or not this will happen, I'm not so sure.
I think - as you suggest - if the identity of the person in question got out and the family took legal action, it would be a very different matter entirely.
Though I wish justice to be done for the man, in whatever form that may take, I really wouldn't wish for the family to have to become aware of such a thing.
Cheers
Its not a little while. This had been widely known for years and years for those been in the community for some time.
i always remember playing through half life 2 and seeing that model, it always unsettled the hell out of me, but hey atleast that man gets to live on forever in one of the greatest pieces of gaming ever made but i ain't sure how he would feel about having his burnt face used in a video game? either way i hope he is in a better place
Or, as my video suggests, he is remembered as being dead forever, and never as alive.
That’s what prompted me to make this video. The community at large seemed so obsessed with the fact that a dead body was used, rather than the remains of a human being that was once alive, if that makes sense.
Hopefully, if they are somehow aware of it, they could take some comfort in it.
Cheers
@MachineYearningYT "The community at large seemed so obsessed with the fact that a dead body was used, rather than the remains of a human being that was once alive, if that makes sense." Reddit intellectual coming through lads, make way!
sometimes i wonder who that guy is
I think we all do on some level, but perhaps it is best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Cheers
@ honestly in a way it’s like a piece of lost media called “lol superman”. some people wanna find it, some don’t. i think neither of them should be found out
I agree. I wasn’t aware of the “lol superman” thing.
To think, so many people spending their time and effort to try and watch a person in the very worst moments of their life before they come crashing to the ground.
What else could have been accomplished in that time?
man wtf did i just stumbled into 😭😭😭😭
Why are people only now discovering the weird origins of many half life 2 textures, like theres literally real world brands used on some of the textures that valve has no relation to but its so low resolution its almost impossible to notice
I suppose there is renewed interest with the 20th anniversary of HL2.
You may have just given me an idea for a video in the future though…
It isnt a murder, it's a man who donated his body to science. (atleast i heard.)
What's your source on him having died a gruesome death? Because I had figured-and later saw many people online say the same-that the burning was done post-mortem and the cadaver belonged to an organ donor, and that the face had been burned probably with the express purpose of photographing it and studying how human tissue burns. In the original photo, the burning does look very deliberate, with the skin along the hairline and from the neck down being perfectly intact. If all that really is the case (emphasis on if), then as long as Valve's use of the photograph doesn't violate any copyright, I see no issue with it. Photos of a corpse of that nature are no more sacred than any other photography imo.
As far as I remember it’s not a real face, though modeled after an actual charred face.
It’s pretty much 1:1 with the real reference photo, sadly.
It’s clear someone at Valve found the photo, edited it a little bit and put it into the game.
It was not a good way to go out at all. It's believed that he got the Ghost Rider treatment and his face was torched by the mafia.
Love your words by the way. Keep it up.
Hi there. There’s conflicting theories as to what happened to them, but yes, I’ve come across that one. I don’t know what to make of it, other than whatever happened, it was clearly tragic.
Thank you for you comment. I’ve got more things on the way!
i wonder what this person did in their lifetime, were they living the dream? did they have even a cent to their name? what was their name? wherever they are, if anywhere, i hope they are at peace.
I wonder much the same things, friend.
Thank you for your comment
We honor him.. for the lore he has brought us… and the story to tell… in the best series of gaming ever made…
meanwhile valve decided making it canon that the combine killed every last child on earth would be better than them being enslaved because the video game rating system says child slavery = AO rating.
The Combine did not intentionally commit child genocide.
The way I see it, this is good and bad. It is good because this man has now been immortalized in an amazing game and because of this video it may be more well known and his body might be treated with more respect when people play. But it is also bad as it was done in some bad taste with using his face as a prop that can be played or messed with. Do I think that Valve should change it? Yes. Do I think players should respect he corpse when coming across it? Yes. Will either of these ever happen? All we can do is pray.
Memorialising someone in a game could be a great way of paying homage to them, if that is something they wished for in life.
I’m not sure if people finding out the texture is based off a real person is better or not, to be honest. I’m sure many will be a bit more respectful, but many won’t care, or worse, find it funny.
As you say, all we can do is have this person in our thoughts.
Cheers
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man i saw that face and jumped as a kid too 😁now i laugh seeing it cause of gmods goofiness 🤪
This is fucking beautifully written… darkly poetic piece of art you have created
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it :)
There is a church called Seventh-day Adventists, where the Bible is not just a book about faith and love but with history recorder over Millenia and translated with over 3,000 languages. Therefore it is NOT written that the dead speak but sleep until the 1st & final resurrection.
When I die, I want to be put in HL3
If people think that HL3 won’t come out until your passing, I fear that you may have put a big target on your back.
there's this part in Anticitizen One where you're in these apartments. If you go upstairs you can see two rooms. One on the left has the corpse on a chair with Breen on the tv, and a zombie in the room. The other has the same corpse with someone on the floor and a revolver next to them like they killed themself. Really disturbing stuff, and then you just go downstairs and outside, and see a Strider right after
In episode 2 vortal coil(?) Corpsep1.mdl reanacted a kurt cobain
After decades of Combine rule and watching the Earth be stripped of what makes it beautiful, I’m not so sure many of us would fare so well either.
I think HL2 encapsulates these vignettes of hopelessness very well, but it’s unfortunate that much of them are tarnished by the inclusion of a real dead person.
Perhaps that makes it all the more poignant, but it is not up to us to decide for someone else.
Cheers
having only 115 subscribers is CRIMINAL
you need WAY more subs bro
2/10 cringe response
@doomnack616 someone's mad
Thank you! I agree lol, though I’m at 361 as of writing so we’re moving in the right direction!
Unless I'm mistaken I think you deliberately avoided showing the face , which is appreciated. I'm not superstitious but this kind of situation is so unnecessary and avoidable, especially since the texture could be patched out.
Apparently Mortal Kombat developers were encouraged to use actual gore films as reference, which is fucked up on several levels but it's also Mortal Goddamn Kombat, not exactly known for realism. I think this is probably a deeper issue in artistic industries than I'd like to believe.
Hi there! I did in fact not show the face as I already felt uncomfortable enough making a video about the subject and it did not feel appropriate to include any imagery.
There’s a lot of different opinions on what should be done about the texture. Interesting enough, an artist working in HL2 RTX shared their remake of the model.
When asked if they used real imagery too, they said they used “‘classic techniques’ to capture the original’s unsettling essence.”
That’s quite vague, but hopefully they don’t mean they have used real imagery.
I agree that developers watching gore for the sake of video games is wrong. Obviously it is a personal choice and if a dev did that in their own time; that is up to them.
Valve had a similar folder full of imagery for L4D2 but found it too unsettling, and so used pink home insulation and potato skins as reference instead.
Clearly, there are solutions out there.
Thank you for you comment and your thoughts on the matter
@MachineYearningYT You're welcome! I feel pretty strongly about the Mortal Kombat example, as it seems like an extreme expectation for an employer to make, but the HL2 example is bad enough to make one wonder how many other examples are lurking in texture files.
Unfortunately we may never know. I can only imagine what nasty stuff the devs making The Callisto Protocol may have been looking at.
Hopefully they weren’t engaging in anything harmful for their sakes.
"Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes" ahh title
And it made you click and watch my video. What does that say of you?
Thank you for the engagement!
@MachineYearningChannel
And thank you for noticing me!
A win win situation if you ask me!
Pleasure doing business with you
For what it's worth, his face was burned off *after* death as part of a medical experiment to study burns, and that's why the photo was in a medical textbook. He donated his body to science.
That’s interesting, I heard he was killed by mobsters who blowtorched his face off while he was alive. I think he owed money or something?
Thank you for offering more context on the matter.
Hopefully, whatever end they met, it was peaceful, and we thank them for selflessly donating their body for science.
Cheers!
Damn imagine overthinking over a corpse
Damn, imagine underthinking a corpse and being so out of touch of mortality and empathy.
Aren't you blowing this out of the water? Sure it was a real corpse, but it was one donated to the medical industry for research and used in a textbook. They had consented to their corpse being shown to thousands already.
They consented for the purpose of education. They probably didn't consent to it being used for entertainment.
@ the images used in the game are edited as well. It’s not a 1 to 1 depiction of their face. Plus it’s not like people are laughing at them or actually being disrespectful to their memory. Calling for a model swap this late is just dumb.
I think we are all entitled to our emotions, exploring them and sharing them with the world.
As I say in the video and as @TheScyphozoa has said, there’s no indication that the man ever agreed to having a photo of his death used in a video game.
I’m not necessarily calling for a model swap, I just don’t know what the right call is, but I don’t think mulling the idea is “dumb”
Perhaps it was dumb and tactless to find an image of a dead person, edit it in photoshop and then put it in the most-anticipated game of 2004.
I don’t think you can say with any authority - as I cannot either - that no one has been laughing or making fun of them all these years.
Corpse01.mdl is the player’s used for the “Hobo” in DarkRP, itself a joke on how horrible the model looks and how the creators equated that to homeless people.
It’s a complicated and touchy subject and something I’ve thought a lot about, hence why I wanted to make a video on it.
You’re more than welcome to discuss it here and the comments and disagree, as am I to disagree with your opinions, but I appreciate yours nonetheless.
Cheers
@MachineYearningChannel Get over it, it's just a texture, nobody caressssssss
@MachineYearningChannelOh wait you are actually entertaining the idea of changing the texture, nevermind I thought I actually found a cool video
IF i remember correctly the original picture shows that the damages we're done intentionally since only his face is burned and almost nothing else is which makes this a thousand times sadder
He was tortured by a cartel by method of having his face burnt off with a blowtorch. That's what it says in the book the image came from.
@@MFKittenDo you know what book it comes from? if you don't then you're probably spreading a rumour someone else made.
@whynotll83 yeah, it's a textbook about forensic medicine. I've seen the original photo scanned from the textbook.
@@MFKitten he wasn't tortured by a cartel, that's a hoax.
@henrycgs I went back to find the original photo. I honestly can't find the actual source of it though, only people's second hand descriptions.
Do you have any information about where the image originally came from and what happened to them?
I think you should edit the thumbnail to have more shading under the letters. It's kind of hard to read the part with the sky behind it
That’s a good shout, thank you!
Just thought I’d let you know I updated the thumbnail, it looks a lot more readable now so thank you :)
I can tell you the guys story. It's not a good one and he didn't make people smile, he was a murderer.
Source?
Do you have any evidence or names?
womp womp
Life is a cage and death is the key
Life can be a blessing. I hope you are able to live one that is full of joy.
Perhaps there is something greater that lies beyond the mortal coil, but we cannot be sure, so it is best to live as well as we can whilst we are amongst the living.
Cheers
@MachineYearningYT if I had the ability to chosen to me er be born I'd use that wishing power. Life is mostly a mess and we waste far too much time to clean it up and make it slightly better. I don't think my life will get better and therefore I don't really care about it
Hey man, I've been in some dark spots in the past too. It can take a lot of work, but things are much better for me these days than they used to. Keep at it, be proactive and be open to people and opportunities you come across in life. It's easier said than done, but living becomes easier once the ball starts rolling :)
@MachineYearningYT thanks. Nice to know you survived
A hidden gem of a video.
But not so hidden now you’ve found it :)
Cheers!
Is there a mod that swaps this texture for something else?
wow.. idk how or why but i always knew this somewhere deep inside
I think many of us suspected it, but it’s easier to ignore it, or pretend otherwise until presented with the facts
When I die... I don't want to be forgotten, I'm scared of it, to be nothing but a blip, but I know I can be remembered somehow. A game would be wonderful, immortalized in code, pulled and manipulated for whatever the game needs me for. I could die over, and over, and over, and over, yet I'm still alive somewhere in the game
Live your life to fullest. Make art, write, become an actor.
But remember, it is more important to be happy in this life, as none of us know what lays beyond.
Be sure to make memories that will be remembered fondly by your loved ones.
I think one of the reasons our civilization built monuments, tombs and sculpted gravestone is to remember the dead and who they were, no matter who/what they were. Ever since i knew this was a real corpse, i kinda treated HL2 as a gravestone for a while until it, of course, eventually let it slip my mind. And maybe, just maybe, this person would have treated it as a (very) glorified gravestone as well.
But deep down... who knows. It's a big ol' shrug, and that's life...
That’s life indeed. I had never thought of HL2 as some sort of digital tombstone. A very interesting way to look at it!
Cheers!
"Far distant eyes look out through yours. Whose hopes and dreams do you encompass? If you could be see the eyes within your eyes, the minds within your mind, you would see that you... are... us."
We are all coterminus with one another
This is beautiful 😭
Thank you. You have a beautiful soul ❤️
It is good thing that you are both compassionate to the deceased person and is respectful for the death. But. I heavily disagree with on the "something should be done" thing. If something begins to be done systematically with the pictures of real (dead or alive) people in videogames (movies, art works, etc) it would be disastrous to our culture while the compassion part being inevitable watered away.
The only sane thing to be done is to pause, remember, then proceed to live forward.
Thank you for the comment. I don’t actually call for something to be done; I say I don’t know if something should be done or not, mostly for the reasons you’ve brought up.
It’s more of an open question that it up for discussion.
I appreciate your thoughts on the matter though, so thank you for lending your words.
Cheers
Reddit: The video.
I don't know if Reddit is the place I'd go for considered discussion haha
why does this model have his pants peed?
Upon death, your body vacates its bladder and bowels.
There is much indignity in death unfortunately, so we must do what we can to remember people as they were in life.
The video title feels like something you would have seen in a scp
Can u make video how normies hate diddy even though normies would do the same if they had the same connections and status of diddy
No.
If anyone would consider that individuals actions for themselves, they wouldn’t be normal; they would be a monster.
In the end that's what we all are.Another lifeless prop in the world
I have to disagree. We exist in people’s minds who we left behind.
Perhaps not physically, but you will be emotionally attached to those after you are gone.
We cherish inanimate objects such as plushies, or recognise faces in clouds.
Humans love connection, and I am sure you will be dearly missed when you eventually pass on to the other side.
But in the meantime, get out there and make memories to be cherished.
Cheers
I hope he didn't die painfully, I wonder if, as you said in the video, the people that knew him know that he's in the game.
I suppose we may never know, but the thought has stuck with me for a long time now.
@MachineYearningChannel I wonder what he did before he died
Me too buddy. Hopefully we’ll never know!
Skill issue
The thing about death, is that you'll become more known by people so far away from you, then you ever were by the people who were by your side
One day we may all find out what lies beyond and who remembers us.
Until then, let’s just enjoy the ride and be as kind to one another as possible ;)
I like this kind of conversational content with futages from valve games
Thank you! It’s more conversational than I had envisioned, but I had to make it quickly as I was going on holiday the next day.
It all worked out in the end though!
WAAAAAAH MY 50 YEAR OLD MEDICAL BOOK PHOTOGRAPH OF A BURNED CORPSE USED FOR A BURNED CORPSE MODEL IN A VIDEOGAME
He consented to be shown for education, not enterainment
Bro cannot be more than the age of 10😭
@@someguy1894 Send him a letter and see if he gives a shit now.
WAAAAAAH I CANT EMPATHISE WITH HUMANS EVEN IN DEATH OH GOD PLEASE SOMEONE SHOW ME SOME AFFECTION I DONT REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I FELT THE EMBRACE OF ANOTHER type aahh comment
@MachineYearningYT For someone who postures themselves as being classy and respectful as your video is clearly designed to suggest, your massive flood of replies are surprisingly full of petty sarcasm, lol.
Hm.
Quite. Much to think about