I agree! Nick is one of few TH-camrs trying to desigmatize talking about this. It's brave of sharing this personally happening to him right now at the age of 22 years old male. I'm glad he trusts his fans with this vulnerable ongoing story which is specifically happening to him. When I watched this with my family for the first time it really changed my perspective.☺☺☺☺☺
As a queer person, I was initially uncomfortable with the idea of "converting" a gay guy, but after the update, it definitely made me feel better about it. I know that they probably didn't intend to perpetuate the "I can turn you straight" trope, but I think they handled it well in the end
As a different queer person, I'm kind of on the other side of the argument. Since the parties involved are all informed and consenting I feel like that settles one matter, and CNC is a valid and pretty popular kink that's kind of nested into the "unwilling" aspect. To me it would really only become problematic if the idea of conversion leaks beyond the sex bubble, but I feel like for most people their kinky sides are pretty well-contained
Same. For me I was just like "I don't NEED to have an opinion on what consensual adults are roleplaying in the bedroom because that's their private shit, but it is kind of offputting to picture presumably cishet couples roleplaying conversion therapy/corrective rape themes in bed for a wild fun time and I just don't wanna hear them discuss it'. I wouldn't control what other people do in bed, but the 'oh that's cute' reaction was weird to see.
@@abbey5899 yeah that's what I was thinking,,, it was weird that not many people acknowledged it. I think everyone probably has at least one kinda fucked up fantasy, but you have to be careful with where and how you talk about it
As a queer man with activity within BDSM spaces, fetishization of conversion is a very big problem. But I can appreciate the couple sitting down to discuss the topic and work to remedy it. At the end of the day, they're both consenting adults in their fantasy scenario and I would think it's unfair to scrutinize every detail of their bed life especially after they've taken the concerns seriously and confronted it with each other. I'm happy that they're exploring their sexuality in a healthy environment as well as having the maturity to understand the less sexy nuances that go into certain kinks. This input comes from someone who has been fetishized and had folks make advances based on their fetishization for my sexuality, gender expression and race so I don't speak on it with no personal history with the harm that fetishization causes. But I can't scrutinize a consenting couple that have healthy sex positive conversations surrounding the problematic nature of their kink which shows me that this is probably not something that would bleed outside of their bedroom and affect non-consenting individuals. . As a side note though, this was a very entertaining video. Loved it
agree. these things don’t exist in a bubble, but also aren’t inherently bad, as in, having this fantasy doesn’t do anything so long as it stays fantasy. if this women has this specific fantasy of getting with a gay guy, but clearly only brought it up to her boyfriend for the purpose of roleplay, it’s rlly not a situation where she’s going out trying to flirt with gay men or making unwanted advances, which is the thing that would make it bad. they’re clearly being conscientious about how they approach it and keeping it in the bedroom so i think it’s a fine and healthy thing. i’m an ace woman, so while my sexuality is not really as fetishized as some, there are ppl that do and fantasize about “changing” an ace person. it’s only a problem i have energy for if they actually approach myself or other ace ppl, if they want to roleplay it in their own bedroom with their partner… caring about that would be a waste of my time and energy.
agreed and let’s be honest: what would kink shaming accomplish here? the girl would start to feel bad for having uncontrollable thoughts and hate herself for it. great accomplishment. while fetishisation of LGBTQ+ ppl is bad it’s also normal that in some brains this triggers fantasies just like with any other topic of live. s*x trafficking is a huge problem and is incredibly harmful, and still having/being a s*x slave is a fantasy for a lot of ppl. one thing doesn’t necessarily have to exclude the other. you can agree that these topics need to be tackled and hurt a lot of ppl and simultaneously accept that your brain fetishises stuff and know that this shouldn’t move past the bedroom. i can understand though that this is also a very difficult topic and just the thought of ppl having fetishes of your sexuality (or anything else related to you) can hurt you. which is fine sometimes it’s okay to be upset. it’s also ok to have uncontrollable fantasies though. how you act with having that is what’s important!
I certainly do feel a kind of way about a straight couple roleplaying gay conversion. The moment he said that it was her kink I immediately cringed. I suppose I prefer them doing that among themselves rather than trying to rope an actual gay person into their bedroom for that. But at the same time, I better not see them at any pride parades
However, I'd also add I do agree that this couple is doing the healthy thing by exploring with each other and trying non-heteronormative things in the bedroom, and I don't think that's bad at all. I think if more straight guys wanna try pegging, that's a good thing. I just think framing it as "cosplaying a gay guy getting converted into straight sex" is reaffirming the ways we are.seen by straight people. Him getting reframed as bisexual doesn't help much either, and I would argue might be more problematic because bisexuals often have to deal with getting propositioned more often than gays or lesbians. Unicorn hunting is a thing and it's why I openly identify as a lesbian even though I honestly see myself as more pansexual
I mean, it's consensual, they established the do's and don'ts, they didn't express any bad intentions to gay men because it was between the two of them, they didn't make someone else the gay man turned bisexual, I don't see nothing wrong with his girlfriend's fantasy since it's only been and will only be her fantasy of power and control, it might not be the most ethical but they're just adults in a healthy relationship playing and experimenting.
@@Elias-co3xz With no disrespect to you, I would assume that you are a non-queer person. I would assume you're headed normative straight man, because you don't understand how even the kink itself can be problematic..
i guess it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. like as long as ur not perpetuating anything who cares? but i think it just determines how morally decent a person is if that makes sense
Hello lesbian here. I have a LOT of beef with the whole "turn them straight" trope for a variety of reasons (bi erasure, the concept of choosing to be gay, etc) but there is something to be said about "fantasy vs. reality". As long as this is kept in the realm of fantasy it's, well, it still feels weird but like it's fine? But then, having a fantasy like that can easily bleed over into reality if you're not careful, which WOULD be a problem (sexually assaulting gay men for instance). Tbh the first thing I thought of when I heard the gf's fantasy was that it was her wanting to feel almost infinitely desirable. Even someone who is not into women would still desire her, that sort of thing. Having a fantasy is not necessarily a problem, but exploring the root causes of fantasies is oftentimes beneficial, and sometimes I would say necessary. For her I think it would be good to consider the concept of desire/feeling desirable and if that plays a role in her self worth? Or it might just be a meaningless fantasy based on harmful stereotypes, I'm no psychologist.
Lizzy Fredrick 15 minutes ago As a gay man, what the actual f*ck was this story. I'm literally on seconds in and this actually makes me sick to my stomach. My identity isn't a funny little mask you can put on and have fun with. Also, straight women fetishizing gay men is bit of a problem nowadays. It gives me the same vibes of straight men sexualizing lesbians, but obviously reversed. It's also just sexualizing gay men. I'm glad they didn't "straight couple looking for a third" some poor guy, but this not much better. gonna repost this cuz its 1:16 and I'm too tired. But basically I think it's weird, fetishization and not taking queer relationships seriously. We already have problems with people not seeing queer relationships as anymore than a phase or a fetish, and these kinds of people don't help. There's nothing inherently sexual about gay people and it shouldn't be seen as a fun thing to play with in your straight relationship. dk if that makes sense but there you go.
I also wonder if the “root” of it is her wanting to explore male penetration & using a strap on. When I was younger I was really into the idea of using a strap on on my boyfriend, and a small part of me thought it would be more likely he’d try it if he was bi. Of course, I’ve grown out of that idea now & fully respect that he is not interested in that. I wonder if she is excited by controlling the situation more & sees having a strap on as a form of power. Of course that can also be problematic for other reasons. But I do think it’s possible its less about the partner being bi/gay & could be about something else
You said exactly what a lot of people seem to have missed: she didn't have a kink about converting the gay guy but for seducing him. Now whether it is a "she's so hot" seduction or a "this person is so attractive and ambiguous" is something that I think would further add to it. I'm guessing it is probably just the first case, but with her also wanting to then peg the guy it could be more than that.
Yeah having a kink for just being so hot that literally anyone would be into you is pretty normal I think, I know some people with like gay conversion fetishes are really into the idea of “conquering” the gay person and “fixing” them, but these two didn’t really seem to have that approach and they genuinely seemed very considerate lol
Late but absolutely. Also if a gay man were to have a “straight man conversion kink” I feel like it would be a MUCH bigger problem. Look at the James Charles (not at all a role model but easiest example) situation. Just the THOUGHT of him attempting to convert a straight man had the internet up in flames. It’s such a gross and weird double standard.
@@NYCTOSEE honestly speaking, I feel rather than her fetish being turning a gay man straight, I feel it's to peg a guy. Like maybe in her head, a straight guy won't like d-cks, so her fantasy guy to peg was a guy who likes them, i.e. a gay guy. Ofc who knows? I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt. I'm glad they at least changed Fernando from gay to bi.
as a lesbian...... it does set alarm bells ringing in my head but... if everything else in the story remained the same, and there was no intent to approach any actual lesbians in the wild, so to speak (just bc that is so common, whereas w gay men... not really. tho straight women do sexually assault gay men a lot, and vice versa, honestly, but it's more bc some people think they're exempt from that if they didn't mean it ¨that way¨ and they're not straight men)... it's fine. i'm sure it happens a lot, rn, somewhere, more problematically than it does in this story, and even then... it's whatever. it's far from high on my list of concerns
As a lesbian: Tons of men have that and they & their friends & often their gfs don‘t seem to mind. Our sexuality is concidered one of the biggest porn categories & it‘s not mostly women watching that 😅 so no, referring to society in general this is verifiably false, but yes there might be some niche audiences where this may be true. Either way, both is disgusting.
As a bisexual man this story still kinda rubs be the wrong way. Kinda like a race fetish or something, you know, fetishizing something part of ur identity that is not within ur control
Same. I was worried the clear fetishization (especially from the girlfriend) wasn't going to be mentioned. I'm a bi woman so I guess I can't say I completely relate, but seeing men fetishize sapphic relationships makes me uncomfortable so I can only assume it would be the same reversed.
Yeah it seems a bit r@pey..? Like not to “reverse the rolls” or whatever but if he wanted her to act as a uninterested girl (or to act as a lesbian) and he just has s*x with her anyway that would also be kinda f’ed up. Feels weird idk Edit: he did mention it and I’m glad Fernando is bi now
@@MarcHendry I’m a big fan of H3 and yea that situation was a lot more different. Ethan admitted that he went too far for a joke and acted foolish which was really uncomfortable to watch. I don’t think he meant to be offensive or anything at all though. He just sometimes speaks without thinking.
I'm lesbian, and I think that as long as you keep it to yourself and it's fully consensual, go for it. Sometimes kinks are weird. Fantasies get taboo. That's okay as long as you aren't actually hurting or exploiting anyone and as long as you understand that it's fiction- not something you can do irl Better you get it out of your system consensually than target an actual gay person
as a bisexual woman who constantly feels the pressure from both lgbtq and cishet people to 'choose a side,' i really feel like we need to stop fetishizing sexuality. being physically/romantically attracted to a sex/gender is not a kink, it's part of our identity.
There are a ton of kinks that can be seen as unethical but are in general harmless when performed between two or more consenting adults and I personally have no issue with what this couple got up to, speaking as a kinky queer man. If she never acts on her kink or directs that towards harming an actual gay man, I don't see anything wrong with them having fun. Also, what a heallthy relationship! I loved hearing about their journey lol
I agree with this if they kept it to themselves. but with the dude posting about it, plus asking a friend for beginner gay porn??? I don't think thats an excuse at this point
@@junglejin3096 It's jsut my opinion as a kinky queer guy, i don't think it's harmfiul. I wasnt making or looking for an excuse about anything, If you think it's innapropriate, thats on you. You aren't doing the roleplay or being targeted by them. It was a post in subreddit focused on sex, theres some level of consent to reading about wild shit on there. As for Nick posting a video on it, you could've chosen to not watch once you knew the subject matter.
it’s harmful because of the reasons she has that fantasy. if you think racist thoughts is it harmless because no one else knows? if two white people consent to using the n word around each other is it okay and harmless because no Black folks hear? also, they may be RPing, but she said this is her FANTASY. huge difference.
@@marycanary3871 You said it yourself: It's a Fantasy. You can disagree all you like, but it's a fantasy. They shared it in a space meant to share inforation about sex and such, such taboo fantasies are not inherently unhealthy or bad. I don't see myself convincing you though, as you seem to connect fantasy to reality, so have a nice day :)))
The name "Fernando" has a weird place in my heart.I can't hear it without repeating it aloud in a thick Italian accent. I must have passionately whispered his name a dozen times while watching this video. _Fernando~_
you're right, nick. This IS the greatest sax story on reddit. I didn't even know that saxophones had such an interesting community🥰 edit: i made this stupid fucking comment and now people are debating what type of instrument a saxophone is😭😭 This is peak internet fr
As a queer trans person, I've experienced people trying to sexually convert me and my loved ones because the other person was straight and into me or my loved one. Even attempting to have a conversation about converting someone is very disrespectful, oversteps boundaries, and belittles queer identities. It makes you a weird person to even try to seduce someone knowing that it just won't happen. That being said, I've heard of queer people being into the idea of converting cishet people. That also just sounds like it oversteps. It's like you don't believe the other person's sexuality and feel like you can single handedly change it. Queer people from my knowledge have all around bad experiences with people thinking they can convert us and being sexualized because of our queerness is a big red flag.
Man nick, this video was so refreshing. It was so over stimulating and exhausting to hear TWO voices in one video. Now to have a whole video just filled with you talking (what I came here for, well I mean not CAME, but like showed up for) is just what we need as a nation. Thank you.
as a queer person I love that the couple unpacked the context of the gf’s kink together and adjusted, that is exactly how people should proceed but I do feel like there’s an element of bisexual fetishization there still but this was still a great vid from you Nick, love to see you having fun & vibing, love the sex positive content and hope you make more stuff like this in the future 🫡
pretending to be another sexuality is obviously not as bad as race play but I still feel it's in the same vain. it's problematic because your sexualizing/fetishizing a whole minority group which is always bad
Eh... I think conversion roleplay is fine as long as it's consensual. I'm bi, my boyfriend is bi, sometimes we engage in a similar scenarios. It's all roleplay and both of us are comfortable and aware that it is fantasy and nothing more. If someone was using it to be homophobic or something that's obviously wrong but I dunno I just think as long as it's not hurting someone it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't be upset by straight people doing this and enjoying it, more power to them. Kink isn't black and white and discretion is involved
The second the gfs fantasy was shared my instant reaction was "ew predatory" so im glad they addressed the whole conversion/exception kink issue. I agree with Nick though, you can be a fine person and have a potentially questionable kink if you can acknowledge that it would be inappropriate as anything other than a fantasy
all i’ve gathered from this story is how great the communication seems to be in this relationship, they both seem to be very aware and conscious of the other person and i think that’s really important.
I feel how Nick feels, he finds this chanel to be relaxing so he shares what he feels in his relationship. As a full time viewer of his chanel, I am honored. I hope you work things out with your girl friend. lots of love
Idk, even with them making him bi it erks me a bit cuz as a bi woman I literally had to break things off with my ex because I found out he was talking to my female friends and telling them about how I wanted to have a 3some with them. Which was just so gross. It hurt enough realizing my at the time bf was trying to hit up my friends for sex, but to also find out this whole time he just saw my sexuality as a fetish instead of just a part of who I am hurt twice as much. Again these two aren't going out their hunting someone down to be a part of their fetish and hopefully it stays that way
the whole fantasy that the gf had about “seducing” an uninterested gay man into having intercourse made me extremely uncomfortable as a young mlm guy myself, and.. seemed kind of r*pey, especially with the “uninterested gay guy” part. deciding to “make” fernando bisexual certainly made things less weird, but it still makes me uncomfortable and feels so weird, because this straight man is pretending to be bisexual for his also straight wife’s fantasy.. i hope this makes sense.
The conversion kink is kinda weird but shoutouts to whomever quoted the ABBA song Fernando in their response (the "I would, my friend" one you were confused by).
I think there’s a lot of fantasies that would be unacceptable outside the frame of reference of consensual sex like pretty much all BDSM as long as it’s kept in the frame of reference it currently exists in no one’s getting hurt
@@Naahi95 i mean yeah we shouldn't police it, but its still fetishization. People with a thing for big boobs fetishize big boobs. People with a thing for converting gay people are fetishizing gay people. It's just calling it what it is. Even if it is fetishization (which is definitely is), If it's between consenting adults and won't impact anyone outside of their fantasy then its fine.
I personally don't think kinks need to have much boundaries, so long as they remain consentual, private and don't affect how you interact with the rest of the world. You can't help what you find arousing, so it's health when you can express your kinks with someone you trust and have good communication with.
I really don’t believe that this is harmful tho because CNC is EXTREMELY common and i would consider this “conversion” kink a subsection of CNC. In reality, it’s between two consenting adults and if they know it would be wrong to try to apply this pressure on a gay individual and would understand the potentially harmful idea associated with the kink, then it’s not wrong! education combats ignorance every time.
Agreed but the comments seem to be filled with people who wouldn't know how to build a CNC scene in the first place. Idk. It's not for me, but I don't see why I should be upset if she's expressed this in a healthy way and isn't SAing queer men. Edit- it's also exhausting the amount of people who are comparing it to race play. Just say you don't understand other people's kinks and move on. I'm not a scat girl but I let them have their fun lol
The fact that they retconned Fernando to be bisexual is absolutely sending me. (As a bi transmasc dude I’m surprised they even did that it’s cool to see cishet ppl taking conversion and how bad it is into account)
Queer dude here. In terms of stuff that's harmful to the queer community, two consenting adults exploring a kink like that, which they might not even agree with on a more general moral level, is definitely the least of my worries. But obvs I can only speak for myself and I totally understand how others would be uncomfortable with that and I don't blame them.
you should do the story of the guy who basically wrecked his social life because he admitted had a fictional wife who was a human-sized sentient cockroach
Yeah idk the whole basis of the kink made me super uncomfortable the whole way through. Healthy relationship for sure but yeah nah feels wrong to be fetishising this. Also, I feel like in the update situation, didn’t need to pretend to be a different sexuality for that. Could have just agreed to experiment without making it a “we’re only doing this because Fernando isn’t straight”
The comment about "my friend Fernando" is a reference to the Abba song "Fernando." Listening to that song again after watching your video is an experience I will treasure for a long time.
the comment that goes "though I never thought that we would lose, I have no regret. if I had to do the same again, I would, my friend, Fernando" is lyrics to a song by ABBA~
i’ve been watching you forever, but i just broke up with my bf of 2 years and you have made it easier to progress. thank you for your presence online !
Fantasies often come from vague, irregular places, we feel in control of those taboo/scary topics, that's the appeal of it, they are not literal. It's not wrong at all to have any kind of transgressive/"problematic" fantasy, and doesn't say anything about your morality, as long you don't want to do any of those transgressive acts outside of a fantasy setting, (in this case, "turning someone straight"). People enjoy BDSM, but no one goes up to them and tells them they are fetishizing domestic abuse. I LOVE the people in this post for having such a great, mature communication! Fantasies are healthy and normal, and thru them we compensate, explore and heal :)
this was a funny video nick! i had a good time, you had some good bits and i look forward to seeing more reddit videos from you like this because i think they are very fun !
you’re very calming. Your personal talks resonate so much for me. Definitely worth a tea sit-down. I really adored your maturity around the couples experiences, and dissecting their interactions as healthy as well.
Ok i could be so off base but as a bisexual gal i feel like the desire comes from not wanting to fetishise homosexuality but rather to displace the innate power dynamic in heterosexual sex
I wouldn't say "innate" but rather "the societal conventions/expectations about (power dynamics in) heterosexual sex". Other than that, I (as an ace AFAB person) agree with you.
the ramble towards the end was really great, i think a lot of young people have been influenced by the media and porn when it comes to about sex and how it "should" be done so it's great to hear people talk about how there's no rulebook/right or wrong way to feel, it's about what you & your partner(s) like and what makes everyone feel comfortable
as a omnisexual (pan with preferences) dude, i have never reaaally had an issue with liking gay porn or whatever, but this is the first time i've felt actually uncomfortable about being fetishised. it's good to see them communicate properly and address the gay conversion thing, but still the fetishing of bisexuality feels gross to me. you can like being pegged by your girlfriend and still be straight. why does he have to be attracted to men to get her off? it all just feels wrong and gross to me
“projects” lmfao, very clever. the evolution of your work feels much more personable these days. it’s a really attractive quality imo. captivating in a strange sense, I think it’s a consequence of the authenticity. but bambi steals the show, being such a sweet faced baby. his power…🌸
As a gay man, I think it’s weird no matter the resolution. Her kink perpetuates the trauma of gay men that isn’t okay when she’s a straight, cis woman. Personally I’ve been fetishized by straight women a whole bunch of times, so it’s definitely not okay to me 😥
10 to 30? so at 41 I'm an exception...you could say exceptional 😎 😏 I've watched TH-cam from the start...been through it all lol my 20 yr old son got me watching. We love finding content and memes to show each other. I'm thankful guys like Nick are who he's watching and the videos are funny
If I came home to that I would instantly think my boyfriend is bisexual or gay and never told me. I’m bisexual and wouldn’t care but I would care that I wasn’t told lol
Hi! I'm queer, my mom is a practicing gynecologist/sexologist and she has mentioned several times that someone being actually 100% straight or gay is pretty rare. It's like a spectrum, and most of us are not in the absolute extremes, but due to societal pressure or our own comfort/identification we just choose a label on either side and go with it. For example, one of my exes identifies as gay, he even questioned this label when we dated bc he was never sexually/physically attracted to women (or AFABs) before me. I never tried to convert him, he was the one who approached me, i was the exception, and it was genuine bc after we broke up he actually wanted to get back together. We got over it, we're still friends (as i am friends with most my exes), and he ultimately chose to stick with the gay label bc he was never in love with a woman after me and even though he is fine with kissing a woman, right now he thinks that's as far as it would get, and that's fine. It's all a matter of comfort. That was also not the only time that happened to me, it happened with gay men and "straight" women too (using quotes not to invalidate a label, it's bc only one still identified as straight after, most of them decided they were in the bi realm). So i don't think the gf in that reddit post is wrong for WANTING that, she respects it enough to leave it alone, not really think about it and never act on it even though there was that 1% chance of it working, and, more importantly, she *never actually harassed anyone to get what she wanted* (and i'd like to think she never would lol), at the end of the day it was just a roleplay with her husband. Point is, if someone says "im not interested/im gay" just leave them alone, respect their refusal, do not insist or harass someone, BUT if one approaches you _just because_, albeit rare that actually happens, therefore it isn't problematic to hope for it. All that being said, it's not fun when your friends (including the ones you dated) call you "cure for heterosexuality", so i wouldn't recommend, you'll be bullied forever LMAOOOO /lighthearted
At around 12:55 when you’re talking about the beginner level the couple took things to, my mind IMMEDIATELY cued to Drew Monsen’s video “I Was Threatened” on the TH-cam channel mytoecold 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The thing with RP is it is just consenting adults. That said, people are allowed to be uncomfortable with certain dynamics. I haven’t really heard of an RP (in this context) that isn’t problematic if it wasn’t an RP unless people are doing in-bed fan fiction or something. So yeah. Like with any kink, it’s all about consent.
I'm a gay person named Fernando and it's shocking to find out my whole life was just a fantasy for a hetero couple's weird roleplay.
Hello fellow gay man, my name is not fernando but i hope that it gets better than this situation
Yeah, this 😬
This made me laugh kdnsnx
I cannot picture a guy named Fernando NOT being gay
its so wwirf
Very brave to share this story about you, personally, Nick. It takes guts to share stuff like this, especially when it happened to you.
took him a while to feel comfortable talking about it though, he was 22 when it happened
So brave😭 the things he does for us
@@junglejin3096 When what happened? Is there a video where he talks about it?
@@MsCupcakeloveer Lmao
I agree! Nick is one of few TH-camrs trying to desigmatize talking about this. It's brave of sharing this personally happening to him right now at the age of 22 years old male. I'm glad he trusts his fans with this vulnerable ongoing story which is specifically happening to him. When I watched this with my family for the first time it really changed my perspective.☺☺☺☺☺
As a gay person with a cat named Fernando this made me uncomfy on a variety of levels
😦😨😨😨😨 NOT THE CAT 😭😭😭😭😭
i almost choked on my chicken nugget my god
@@literaryluci1532 not the chicken nugget 😭😭
Oh no 😭
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Nick is the only person on planet earth not allowed to say twink
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As a queer person, I was initially uncomfortable with the idea of "converting" a gay guy, but after the update, it definitely made me feel better about it. I know that they probably didn't intend to perpetuate the "I can turn you straight" trope, but I think they handled it well in the end
Yeah the "unwilling" in unwilling gay man made me really uncomfortable.
As a different queer person, I'm kind of on the other side of the argument. Since the parties involved are all informed and consenting I feel like that settles one matter, and CNC is a valid and pretty popular kink that's kind of nested into the "unwilling" aspect. To me it would really only become problematic if the idea of conversion leaks beyond the sex bubble, but I feel like for most people their kinky sides are pretty well-contained
yeah the original part was... a little r*pey
Same. For me I was just like "I don't NEED to have an opinion on what consensual adults are roleplaying in the bedroom because that's their private shit, but it is kind of offputting to picture presumably cishet couples roleplaying conversion therapy/corrective rape themes in bed for a wild fun time and I just don't wanna hear them discuss it'. I wouldn't control what other people do in bed, but the 'oh that's cute' reaction was weird to see.
@@abbey5899 yeah that's what I was thinking,,, it was weird that not many people acknowledged it. I think everyone probably has at least one kinda fucked up fantasy, but you have to be careful with where and how you talk about it
As a queer man with activity within BDSM spaces, fetishization of conversion is a very big problem. But I can appreciate the couple sitting down to discuss the topic and work to remedy it. At the end of the day, they're both consenting adults in their fantasy scenario and I would think it's unfair to scrutinize every detail of their bed life especially after they've taken the concerns seriously and confronted it with each other. I'm happy that they're exploring their sexuality in a healthy environment as well as having the maturity to understand the less sexy nuances that go into certain kinks.
This input comes from someone who has been fetishized and had folks make advances based on their fetishization for my sexuality, gender expression and race so I don't speak on it with no personal history with the harm that fetishization causes. But I can't scrutinize a consenting couple that have healthy sex positive conversations surrounding the problematic nature of their kink which shows me that this is probably not something that would bleed outside of their bedroom and affect non-consenting individuals.
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As a side note though, this was a very entertaining video. Loved it
agree. these things don’t exist in a bubble, but also aren’t inherently bad, as in, having this fantasy doesn’t do anything so long as it stays fantasy. if this women has this specific fantasy of getting with a gay guy, but clearly only brought it up to her boyfriend for the purpose of roleplay, it’s rlly not a situation where she’s going out trying to flirt with gay men or making unwanted advances, which is the thing that would make it bad. they’re clearly being conscientious about how they approach it and keeping it in the bedroom so i think it’s a fine and healthy thing.
i’m an ace woman, so while my sexuality is not really as fetishized as some, there are ppl that do and fantasize about “changing” an ace person. it’s only a problem i have energy for if they actually approach myself or other ace ppl, if they want to roleplay it in their own bedroom with their partner… caring about that would be a waste of my time and energy.
You said all of that so perfectly. Ty for sharing your thoughts
As a lesbian, same here. I agree with you
thank you youtube user snot
agreed and let’s be honest: what would kink shaming accomplish here? the girl would start to feel bad for having uncontrollable thoughts and hate herself for it. great accomplishment.
while fetishisation of LGBTQ+ ppl is bad it’s also normal that in some brains this triggers fantasies just like with any other topic of live. s*x trafficking is a huge problem and is incredibly harmful, and still having/being a s*x slave is a fantasy for a lot of ppl.
one thing doesn’t necessarily have to exclude the other. you can agree that these topics need to be tackled and hurt a lot of ppl and simultaneously accept that your brain fetishises stuff and know that this shouldn’t move past the bedroom.
i can understand though that this is also a very difficult topic and just the thought of ppl having fetishes of your sexuality (or anything else related to you) can hurt you. which is fine sometimes it’s okay to be upset. it’s also ok to have uncontrollable fantasies though.
how you act with having that is what’s important!
Reddit stories are infinitely more cursed than tiktok, so much content to be farmed
also 90% of them are just straight fanfiction
help fr
Nice username
Cuz ppl just be saying the worst secrets spilling their whole heart
That's why there are so many Tiktok accounts dedicated to telling Reddit stories through the robot voice
As Nick's lawyer I can confirm he definitely does not have any lawyers at all guys don't worry about it 😉
can confirm i was the lawyer papers
I thought the cat was his lawyer.
@@yeenbean3318 can confirm i was the litterbox
I certainly do feel a kind of way about a straight couple roleplaying gay conversion. The moment he said that it was her kink I immediately cringed. I suppose I prefer them doing that among themselves rather than trying to rope an actual gay person into their bedroom for that. But at the same time, I better not see them at any pride parades
However, I'd also add I do agree that this couple is doing the healthy thing by exploring with each other and trying non-heteronormative things in the bedroom, and I don't think that's bad at all. I think if more straight guys wanna try pegging, that's a good thing. I just think framing it as "cosplaying a gay guy getting converted into straight sex" is reaffirming the ways we are.seen by straight people. Him getting reframed as bisexual doesn't help much either, and I would argue might be more problematic because bisexuals often have to deal with getting propositioned more often than gays or lesbians. Unicorn hunting is a thing and it's why I openly identify as a lesbian even though I honestly see myself as more pansexual
@@nataliezabel7757 Fighting queerphobia one thrust at a time.
I mean, it's consensual, they established the do's and don'ts, they didn't express any bad intentions to gay men because it was between the two of them, they didn't make someone else the gay man turned bisexual, I don't see nothing wrong with his girlfriend's fantasy since it's only been and will only be her fantasy of power and control, it might not be the most ethical but they're just adults in a healthy relationship playing and experimenting.
@@Elias-co3xz With no disrespect to you, I would assume that you are a non-queer person. I would assume you're headed normative straight man, because you don't understand how even the kink itself can be problematic..
i guess it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. like as long as ur not perpetuating anything who cares? but i think it just determines how morally decent a person is if that makes sense
Hello lesbian here. I have a LOT of beef with the whole "turn them straight" trope for a variety of reasons (bi erasure, the concept of choosing to be gay, etc) but there is something to be said about "fantasy vs. reality". As long as this is kept in the realm of fantasy it's, well, it still feels weird but like it's fine? But then, having a fantasy like that can easily bleed over into reality if you're not careful, which WOULD be a problem (sexually assaulting gay men for instance). Tbh the first thing I thought of when I heard the gf's fantasy was that it was her wanting to feel almost infinitely desirable. Even someone who is not into women would still desire her, that sort of thing. Having a fantasy is not necessarily a problem, but exploring the root causes of fantasies is oftentimes beneficial, and sometimes I would say necessary. For her I think it would be good to consider the concept of desire/feeling desirable and if that plays a role in her self worth? Or it might just be a meaningless fantasy based on harmful stereotypes, I'm no psychologist.
Lizzy Fredrick
15 minutes ago
As a gay man, what the actual f*ck was this story. I'm literally on seconds in and this actually makes me sick to my stomach. My identity isn't a funny little mask you can put on and have fun with. Also, straight women fetishizing gay men is bit of a problem nowadays. It gives me the same vibes of straight men sexualizing lesbians, but obviously reversed. It's also just sexualizing gay men. I'm glad they didn't "straight couple looking for a third" some poor guy, but this not much better.
gonna repost this cuz its 1:16 and I'm too tired. But basically I think it's weird, fetishization and not taking queer relationships seriously. We already have problems with people not seeing queer relationships as anymore than a phase or a fetish, and these kinds of people don't help. There's nothing inherently sexual about gay people and it shouldn't be seen as a fun thing to play with in your straight relationship.
dk if that makes sense but there you go.
Wonderfully said!
I also wonder if the “root” of it is her wanting to explore male penetration & using a strap on. When I was younger I was really into the idea of using a strap on on my boyfriend, and a small part of me thought it would be more likely he’d try it if he was bi. Of course, I’ve grown out of that idea now & fully respect that he is not interested in that.
I wonder if she is excited by controlling the situation more & sees having a strap on as a form of power. Of course that can also be problematic for other reasons. But I do think it’s possible its less about the partner being bi/gay & could be about something else
You said exactly what a lot of people seem to have missed: she didn't have a kink about converting the gay guy but for seducing him. Now whether it is a "she's so hot" seduction or a "this person is so attractive and ambiguous" is something that I think would further add to it. I'm guessing it is probably just the first case, but with her also wanting to then peg the guy it could be more than that.
Yeah having a kink for just being so hot that literally anyone would be into you is pretty normal I think, I know some people with like gay conversion fetishes are really into the idea of “conquering” the gay person and “fixing” them, but these two didn’t really seem to have that approach and they genuinely seemed very considerate lol
if a man’s biggest fantasy was having a lesbian that he turns straight we’d know it’s weird off the bat
exactly!!
Late but absolutely. Also if a gay man were to have a “straight man conversion kink” I feel like it would be a MUCH bigger problem. Look at the James Charles (not at all a role model but easiest example) situation. Just the THOUGHT of him attempting to convert a straight man had the internet up in flames. It’s such a gross and weird double standard.
@@NYCTOSEE honestly speaking, I feel rather than her fetish being turning a gay man straight, I feel it's to peg a guy. Like maybe in her head, a straight guy won't like d-cks, so her fantasy guy to peg was a guy who likes them, i.e. a gay guy. Ofc who knows? I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt.
I'm glad they at least changed Fernando from gay to bi.
as a lesbian...... it does set alarm bells ringing in my head but... if everything else in the story remained the same, and there was no intent to approach any actual lesbians in the wild, so to speak (just bc that is so common, whereas w gay men... not really. tho straight women do sexually assault gay men a lot, and vice versa, honestly, but it's more bc some people think they're exempt from that if they didn't mean it ¨that way¨ and they're not straight men)... it's fine. i'm sure it happens a lot, rn, somewhere, more problematically than it does in this story, and even then... it's whatever. it's far from high on my list of concerns
As a lesbian: Tons of men have that and they & their friends & often their gfs don‘t seem to mind. Our sexuality is concidered one of the biggest porn categories & it‘s not mostly women watching that 😅 so no, referring to society in general this is verifiably false, but yes there might be some niche audiences where this may be true. Either way, both is disgusting.
As a bisexual man this story still kinda rubs be the wrong way. Kinda like a race fetish or something, you know, fetishizing something part of ur identity that is not within ur control
I agree. Cosplaying a sexuality to get layed is fucked up
Same. I was worried the clear fetishization (especially from the girlfriend) wasn't going to be mentioned. I'm a bi woman so I guess I can't say I completely relate, but seeing men fetishize sapphic relationships makes me uncomfortable so I can only assume it would be the same reversed.
Yeah it seems a bit r@pey..? Like not to “reverse the rolls” or whatever but if he wanted her to act as a uninterested girl (or to act as a lesbian) and he just has s*x with her anyway that would also be kinda f’ed up. Feels weird idk
Edit: he did mention it and I’m glad Fernando is bi now
totally. it is fetishizing being gay and normalizing pressure to convert or "just try it" with the opposite sex
Bless their tepid liberal hearts for thinking it was less problematic to fetishize bi men than gay men.
he claims to be 23 but his shirt clearly states he’s 39.95… i just don’t know about this guys
NOT NICK THINKING THIS COULD BE MONETIZED AFTER TALKING ABT PEGGING UNCENSORED
(we’re still okay don’t tell them)
He’s (not) the pegging king so
@@sourgreendolly7685 I read kids
@@v.xien.ME TOO
I can’t get over you checking if you’re allowed to say twink. Also Fernando is the bi representation that I need.
I think Ethan Klein did get heat for saying 'twink' once, but maybe he *called* someone twink, and that's different?
@@MarcHendry I’m a big fan of H3 and yea that situation was a lot more different. Ethan admitted that he went too far for a joke and acted foolish which was really uncomfortable to watch. I don’t think he meant to be offensive or anything at all though. He just sometimes speaks without thinking.
"I'm not the peg king" is my new favorite Nick quote
Describing the twink o*gy as “longer than lord of the rings” was unreasonably funny
We know it's not Nick cause he's 40 and the OP is 22
he is NOT 40 he’s 39.95
39.95****
Slightly incorrect
True
"'I'm usually dominant in bed' NOT ME!" okay Nick
Nick is a bottom
HAHAHA i was gonna mention how he immediately corrected that
I'm lesbian, and I think that as long as you keep it to yourself and it's fully consensual, go for it. Sometimes kinks are weird. Fantasies get taboo. That's okay as long as you aren't actually hurting or exploiting anyone and as long as you understand that it's fiction- not something you can do irl
Better you get it out of your system consensually than target an actual gay person
❤
nick, the "t-word" is definitely not twink 😭 but thats okay bro we get what you meant
what's the t-word?
@@cgbnji tr*nn*
@@cgbnji they’re talking about the t-slur used against transfem people
@@GraceCleo I thought it was just the slur used against transgender people in general
@@GraceCleo trans people in general*
as a bisexual woman who constantly feels the pressure from both lgbtq and cishet people to 'choose a side,' i really feel like we need to stop fetishizing sexuality. being physically/romantically attracted to a sex/gender is not a kink, it's part of our identity.
There are a ton of kinks that can be seen as unethical but are in general harmless when performed between two or more consenting adults and I personally have no issue with what this couple got up to, speaking as a kinky queer man. If she never acts on her kink or directs that towards harming an actual gay man, I don't see anything wrong with them having fun.
Also, what a heallthy relationship! I loved hearing about their journey lol
I agree with this if they kept it to themselves. but with the dude posting about it, plus asking a friend for beginner gay porn??? I don't think thats an excuse at this point
@@junglejin3096 It's jsut my opinion as a kinky queer guy, i don't think it's harmfiul. I wasnt making or looking for an excuse about anything, If you think it's innapropriate, thats on you. You aren't doing the roleplay or being targeted by them. It was a post in subreddit focused on sex, theres some level of consent to reading about wild shit on there.
As for Nick posting a video on it, you could've chosen to not watch once you knew the subject matter.
@@nsullivan9096 i don't disagree entirely and of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but I still think it's pretty fucked up
it’s harmful because of the reasons she has that fantasy. if you think racist thoughts is it harmless because no one else knows? if two white people consent to using the n word around each other is it okay and harmless because no Black folks hear? also, they may be RPing, but she said this is her FANTASY. huge difference.
@@marycanary3871 You said it yourself: It's a Fantasy. You can disagree all you like, but it's a fantasy. They shared it in a space meant to share inforation about sex and such, such taboo fantasies are not inherently unhealthy or bad. I don't see myself convincing you though, as you seem to connect fantasy to reality, so have a nice day :)))
Nick is saying it’s not me a little too many times…I’m not sure I believe him
Nick getting defensive about not being dominant
The name "Fernando" has a weird place in my heart.I can't hear it without repeating it aloud in a thick Italian accent. I must have passionately whispered his name a dozen times while watching this video.
_Fernando~_
I can only think of Fernando as a guy from an ABBA song
@@tmareference You just made it worse! XD
Damnit, that song is going to be stuck in my head all day now.
i can only hear alejandro by lady gaga in my head when i hear the name fernando
I just whispered it out loud after reading your comment 😂
you're right, nick. This IS the greatest sax story on reddit. I didn't even know that saxophones had such an interesting community🥰
edit: i made this stupid fucking comment and now people are debating what type of instrument a saxophone is😭😭 This is peak internet fr
Lovin' that brass
They are woodwinds
@@hyunjinsanity woodwind
@@hyunjinsanity Imagine not knowing that Saxaphones are woodwinds, couldn’t be me
@@nelsonwilkins347 WOODwind
DONT say that word
he can, technically. i just don’t want him to
As a queer trans person, I've experienced people trying to sexually convert me and my loved ones because the other person was straight and into me or my loved one. Even attempting to have a conversation about converting someone is very disrespectful, oversteps boundaries, and belittles queer identities. It makes you a weird person to even try to seduce someone knowing that it just won't happen. That being said, I've heard of queer people being into the idea of converting cishet people. That also just sounds like it oversteps. It's like you don't believe the other person's sexuality and feel like you can single handedly change it. Queer people from my knowledge have all around bad experiences with people thinking they can convert us and being sexualized because of our queerness is a big red flag.
Agreed. Same thing goes with converting straight people.
Man nick, this video was so refreshing. It was so over stimulating and exhausting to hear TWO voices in one video. Now to have a whole video just filled with you talking (what I came here for, well I mean not CAME, but like showed up for) is just what we need as a nation. Thank you.
Lol I read this in Nick's voice. You have a similar writing style.
@@sweetsour4375 I do have nicks voice actually
@@JadeSquibs Hey, that's dope! Nick has a nice voice.
@@JadeSquibs bro give it back, we need him to have it for videos
@@xi3545 YOULL HAVE TO KILL ME
nick not knowing the ABBA song Fernando was heartbreaking
Nick proving that he has never seen Mamma Mia 2. Absolutely gut-wrenching.
The scarcity of comments about this has me thinking the average age of his viewers is closer to 10 than 30 😂😭
as a queer person I love that the couple unpacked the context of the gf’s kink together and adjusted, that is exactly how people should proceed but I do feel like there’s an element of bisexual fetishization there still
but this was still a great vid from you Nick, love to see you having fun & vibing, love the sex positive content and hope you make more stuff like this in the future 🫡
nick, "if I had to do the same again I would my friend Fernando" is From the song Fernando by ABBA 🙏
pretending to be another sexuality is obviously not as bad as race play but I still feel it's in the same vain. it's problematic because your sexualizing/fetishizing a whole minority group which is always bad
Huh? Something happening between two consenting adults behind closed doors isn't problematic. You did not eat
as a lesbian: it’s not that deep
yeah agree. it felt way to off for me. it’s as gross as “seducing a lesbian”
Eh... I think conversion roleplay is fine as long as it's consensual. I'm bi, my boyfriend is bi, sometimes we engage in a similar scenarios. It's all roleplay and both of us are comfortable and aware that it is fantasy and nothing more. If someone was using it to be homophobic or something that's obviously wrong but I dunno I just think as long as it's not hurting someone it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't be upset by straight people doing this and enjoying it, more power to them.
Kink isn't black and white and discretion is involved
Explain the difference between "fetishizing" someone, and having a sexual preference?
The second the gfs fantasy was shared my instant reaction was "ew predatory" so im glad they addressed the whole conversion/exception kink issue. I agree with Nick though, you can be a fine person and have a potentially questionable kink if you can acknowledge that it would be inappropriate as anything other than a fantasy
all i’ve gathered from this story is how great the communication seems to be in this relationship, they both seem to be very aware and conscious of the other person and i think that’s really important.
I think this story is about Nick.
nah, it cant be! hes 23 nd the guy is 22
@@lexib8901 exactly.... he's the _girlfriend_
@@lexib8901 he's actually lying to us but he had to get if off his chest so he lied about his age
@@idespisethisapp nah, his age is not his chest literally. It clearly says that he is 39.95
@@HikrisDopl interesting interesting
I feel how Nick feels, he finds this chanel to be relaxing so he shares what he feels in his relationship. As a full time viewer of his chanel, I am honored. I hope you work things out with your girl friend. lots of love
I’m picturing Nick sitting his whole family down on the couch to watch his videos.
Idk, even with them making him bi it erks me a bit cuz as a bi woman I literally had to break things off with my ex because I found out he was talking to my female friends and telling them about how I wanted to have a 3some with them. Which was just so gross. It hurt enough realizing my at the time bf was trying to hit up my friends for sex, but to also find out this whole time he just saw my sexuality as a fetish instead of just a part of who I am hurt twice as much.
Again these two aren't going out their hunting someone down to be a part of their fetish and hopefully it stays that way
im sorry that happened to you :( thats the thing with these “kinks” some people dont know where to draw the line between a kink and reality
@@flyingcactus4560 thx, it's been 2 years so tbh I sometimes forget it even happened. But yeah it's sad some people don't know when to stop
That’s happened to me too. It sucks.
the whole fantasy that the gf had about “seducing” an uninterested gay man into having intercourse made me extremely uncomfortable as a young mlm guy myself, and.. seemed kind of r*pey, especially with the “uninterested gay guy” part. deciding to “make” fernando bisexual certainly made things less weird, but it still makes me uncomfortable and feels so weird, because this straight man is pretending to be bisexual for his also straight wife’s fantasy.. i hope this makes sense.
Nick seems happier for some reason so now I’m happy
ur awesome
wow what a crazy thing that happened to Nick! so glad he shared
nick not understanding the abba reference killed me
Nick the “if I had to do the same again I would my friend” is an ABBA line 😭😭
I'm sorry, but what does Abba mean?
The conversion kink is kinda weird but shoutouts to whomever quoted the ABBA song Fernando in their response (the "I would, my friend" one you were confused by).
“If I had to do the same again, I would, my friend, Fernando” is lyrics from an ABBA song called Fernando, nick. And it SLAPS.
“Lookin for some sex positive toast”
I like this unhinged, cocaine-fueled multiverse version of nick that is pressured by the lawyers
I'm so glad someone else picked up on the coke fueled chaos this video has
The fantasy is fetishization, even with Fern being bi
I don't agree, we can't police sexual fantasies. We can unpack them sure, which is what this couple did.
I think there’s a lot of fantasies that would be unacceptable outside the frame of reference of consensual sex like pretty much all BDSM as long as it’s kept in the frame of reference it currently exists in no one’s getting hurt
@@tarettime9392 true
if he’s bi it’s still kinda fetishization yes but at least it’s not r*pey like she’s trying to convert him
@@Naahi95 i mean yeah we shouldn't police it, but its still fetishization. People with a thing for big boobs fetishize big boobs. People with a thing for converting gay people are fetishizing gay people. It's just calling it what it is. Even if it is fetishization (which is definitely is), If it's between consenting adults and won't impact anyone outside of their fantasy then its fine.
I personally don't think kinks need to have much boundaries, so long as they remain consentual, private and don't affect how you interact with the rest of the world. You can't help what you find arousing, so it's health when you can express your kinks with someone you trust and have good communication with.
one of my friend’s names is fernando. i saw his name on the thumbnail followed by “she wants more fernando”, and immediately clicked
I really don’t believe that this is harmful tho because CNC is EXTREMELY common and i would consider this “conversion” kink a subsection of CNC. In reality, it’s between two consenting adults and if they know it would be wrong to try to apply this pressure on a gay individual and would understand the potentially harmful idea associated with the kink, then it’s not wrong! education combats ignorance every time.
Agreed but the comments seem to be filled with people who wouldn't know how to build a CNC scene in the first place. Idk. It's not for me, but I don't see why I should be upset if she's expressed this in a healthy way and isn't SAing queer men.
Edit- it's also exhausting the amount of people who are comparing it to race play. Just say you don't understand other people's kinks and move on. I'm not a scat girl but I let them have their fun lol
The fact that they retconned Fernando to be bisexual is absolutely sending me.
(As a bi transmasc dude I’m surprised they even did that it’s cool to see cishet ppl taking conversion and how bad it is into account)
It’s absolutely crazy what people will just say on the internet
Queer dude here. In terms of stuff that's harmful to the queer community, two consenting adults exploring a kink like that, which they might not even agree with on a more general moral level, is definitely the least of my worries.
But obvs I can only speak for myself and I totally understand how others would be uncomfortable with that and I don't blame them.
You’re right nick this is the greatest Sox story of all time! I didn’t even know the baseball community was big on Reddit!
you should do the story of the guy who basically wrecked his social life because he admitted had a fictional wife who was a human-sized sentient cockroach
*???????????????????!*
bro?
SO excited for the queef jerky listening party
WOOOO
Yeah idk the whole basis of the kink made me super uncomfortable the whole way through. Healthy relationship for sure but yeah nah feels wrong to be fetishising this. Also, I feel like in the update situation, didn’t need to pretend to be a different sexuality for that. Could have just agreed to experiment without making it a “we’re only doing this because Fernando isn’t straight”
*lyric from well known ABBA song “Fernando”*
Nick: what are you saying 👁👄👁
The comment about "my friend Fernando" is a reference to the Abba song "Fernando." Listening to that song again after watching your video is an experience I will treasure for a long time.
Reddit is definitely one of the places on the internet
Reddit is so overlooked, there’s so many cursed stories
By far my favorite TH-camr. I’m constantly giggling and belly laughing watching you!
thank u!!!!!!
"If I had to do the same again I would my friend, Fernando" is a quote from an Abba song :)
the amount of times nick says it isnt about him makes me absolutely sure this is about him.
the comment that goes "though I never thought that we would lose, I have no regret. if I had to do the same again, I would, my friend, Fernando" is lyrics to a song by ABBA~
Yooooo ngl that beginning is kinda true for me keep up the great videos and I love listening to your videos
i’ve been watching you forever, but i just broke up with my bf of 2 years and you have made it easier to progress. thank you for your presence online !
Fantasies often come from vague, irregular places, we feel in control of those taboo/scary topics, that's the appeal of it, they are not literal. It's not wrong at all to have any kind of transgressive/"problematic" fantasy, and doesn't say anything about your morality, as long you don't want to do any of those transgressive acts outside of a fantasy setting, (in this case, "turning someone straight").
People enjoy BDSM, but no one goes up to them and tells them they are fetishizing domestic abuse.
I LOVE the people in this post for having such a great, mature communication!
Fantasies are healthy and normal, and thru them we compensate, explore and heal :)
exactly!
this was a funny video nick! i had a good time, you had some good bits and i look forward to seeing more reddit videos from you like this because i think they are very fun !
THANK YOU
Other than the fetishizing of my people, this is wholesome af. We stan a nice supportive couple respecting each other's boundaries 👌
you’re very calming. Your personal talks resonate so much for me. Definitely worth a tea sit-down. I really adored your maturity around the couples experiences, and dissecting their interactions as healthy as well.
i think it just Shouldnt be public if you have a gay conversion kink because thats. really really really uncomfortable.
Ok i could be so off base but as a bisexual gal i feel like the desire comes from not wanting to fetishise homosexuality but rather to displace the innate power dynamic in heterosexual sex
That’s an interesting perspective and could have some basis
I wouldn't say "innate" but rather "the societal conventions/expectations about (power dynamics in) heterosexual sex". Other than that, I (as an ace AFAB person) agree with you.
That's what I was also thinking since she wanted to peg him lol
I've never even seen a picture of the man, but I've got a very clear image of Nick's Dad laughing at this rant
Damn nick, sharing this story is really something big and it must have been so hard for you
the ramble towards the end was really great, i think a lot of young people have been influenced by the media and porn when it comes to about sex and how it "should" be done so it's great to hear people talk about how there's no rulebook/right or wrong way to feel, it's about what you & your partner(s) like and what makes everyone feel comfortable
as a omnisexual (pan with preferences) dude, i have never reaaally had an issue with liking gay porn or whatever, but this is the first time i've felt actually uncomfortable about being fetishised. it's good to see them communicate properly and address the gay conversion thing, but still the fetishing of bisexuality feels gross to me. you can like being pegged by your girlfriend and still be straight. why does he have to be attracted to men to get her off? it all just feels wrong and gross to me
“projects” lmfao, very clever.
the evolution of your work feels much more personable these days. it’s a really attractive quality imo. captivating in a strange sense, I think it’s a consequence of the authenticity.
but bambi steals the show, being such a sweet faced baby. his power…🌸
that was so nice thank you
Nick in this video: advertises his new album
Also Nick: doesn't get the ABBA reference
The amount of times Nick is clarifying that the story *isnt* about him is making me suspicious that it might be abt him 🤧🤧
Yay Fernando uploaded
As a gay man, I think it’s weird no matter the resolution. Her kink perpetuates the trauma of gay men that isn’t okay when she’s a straight, cis woman. Personally I’ve been fetishized by straight women a whole bunch of times, so it’s definitely not okay to me 😥
3:20 Lmao I love that Nick isn't just okay with people having kinky sex, but advocates for people to have more of it
I think Nick sold his soul to Gormu and that's how he's able to put out so much content recently.
Two consenting adults can do whatever they want behind closed doors...period...
That is one healthy af relationship
The hottest part of this story was all the healthy communication and willingness to understand
Kinks shouldn’t be shamed but as soon as you bring it outside the bedroom it’s public opinion. Can’t be mad when you put that out there.
hearing nick say "str*pon" and rant about raking leaves was just what i needed today
10 to 30? so at 41 I'm an exception...you could say exceptional 😎 😏 I've watched TH-cam from the start...been through it all lol my 20 yr old son got me watching. We love finding content and memes to show each other. I'm thankful guys like Nick are who he's watching and the videos are funny
Your son's lucky to have that kind of relationship with his parent. I wish.
A lot of us wished we had this relationship with our parents. Cherish this.
What's wholesome is Nick giving genuine lessons on the importance of consent and comfort between all parties, and healthy communication.
woo the cool dude is back!
your name is really cool
@@anonkittygirl Aw thanks! yours is very cute too
If I came home to that I would instantly think my boyfriend is bisexual or gay and never told me. I’m bisexual and wouldn’t care but I would care that I wasn’t told lol
Something tells me that fulfilling somebody's rape kink, no matter their gender, is probably wrong.
I think she just wants to be dominant sometimes, it's that simple
Hi! I'm queer, my mom is a practicing gynecologist/sexologist and she has mentioned several times that someone being actually 100% straight or gay is pretty rare. It's like a spectrum, and most of us are not in the absolute extremes, but due to societal pressure or our own comfort/identification we just choose a label on either side and go with it. For example, one of my exes identifies as gay, he even questioned this label when we dated bc he was never sexually/physically attracted to women (or AFABs) before me. I never tried to convert him, he was the one who approached me, i was the exception, and it was genuine bc after we broke up he actually wanted to get back together. We got over it, we're still friends (as i am friends with most my exes), and he ultimately chose to stick with the gay label bc he was never in love with a woman after me and even though he is fine with kissing a woman, right now he thinks that's as far as it would get, and that's fine. It's all a matter of comfort. That was also not the only time that happened to me, it happened with gay men and "straight" women too (using quotes not to invalidate a label, it's bc only one still identified as straight after, most of them decided they were in the bi realm). So i don't think the gf in that reddit post is wrong for WANTING that, she respects it enough to leave it alone, not really think about it and never act on it even though there was that 1% chance of it working, and, more importantly, she *never actually harassed anyone to get what she wanted* (and i'd like to think she never would lol), at the end of the day it was just a roleplay with her husband. Point is, if someone says "im not interested/im gay" just leave them alone, respect their refusal, do not insist or harass someone, BUT if one approaches you _just because_, albeit rare that actually happens, therefore it isn't problematic to hope for it.
All that being said, it's not fun when your friends (including the ones you dated) call you "cure for heterosexuality", so i wouldn't recommend, you'll be bullied forever LMAOOOO /lighthearted
Nick is honestly a ray of sunshine, be still my heart ❤️
At around 12:55 when you’re talking about the beginner level the couple took things to, my mind IMMEDIATELY cued to Drew Monsen’s video “I Was Threatened” on the TH-cam channel mytoecold 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The thing with RP is it is just consenting adults. That said, people are allowed to be uncomfortable with certain dynamics.
I haven’t really heard of an RP (in this context) that isn’t problematic if it wasn’t an RP unless people are doing in-bed fan fiction or something. So yeah. Like with any kink, it’s all about consent.