DJI Drone Ban - Why I'm Not Worried.
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- Will DJI be banned in the United States? If it does happen, are we going to be ok?
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The problem is, you are speaking in logical terms that are easy to understand. The U.S. government has never operated that way.
Neither their adversaries. They don't think like civilians but rather they will find every risks and possible weakness.
lol no he isn't. He's a completely non technical person trying to convey a technical message that he's not qualified to deliver. Aka he's a shill.
I use them at work. I hate them
So, being these other companies making comparable drones to DJI, will that start to bring the cost of DJI drones down because of the competitive market
@@joshgrambart4844 doubtful, the other drones are considerably more $. like 50% more
I used my Mini 4 pro yesterday to see how well my field was irrigating....it was just pasture grass. Where I fly there is not anything of interest to anybody but me. I shoot alot of sunrises and sunsets.....no security issues there. And, I just send it in the air just to play with it....oh my. Thanks Russ for keeping us updated.
Me too. The whole reason I have a drone in my 50's is that we are traveling the country in various campsite. I simply float it up above the site we are staying (following all permissions and laws by each entity) and spin around to get a 360 scenery view of where we are staying, and then bring it back down. Not interested in putting it over cities and zooming it around structures.
Another ridiculous argument is when public places ban drones on their property "for the safety and privacy of their customers" but have no problem letting everyone walk around filming everyone with their phones or action cameras in 4K with AUDIO... but its the drones that are a concern that film from 100 feet away with no audio. 🤦♂
Safety-wise, I suppose they could argue that a drone might fall from the sky, or be crashed into someone - unlikely to happen with a phone. The privacy aspect makes no sense to me, however
@@robertcook2572 He did say "from 100 feet away".
@@2cqql1 100ft above a person is 100ft away
They can say that all they want… just don’t take off or land on their property. They don’t own the airspace so their claim only applies to the ground.
Public places cannot legally ban filming of any kind. It's quite literally against the law, which is why you have all kinds of 1st amendment auditor channels on TH-cam who go and film in public places looking to illicit a response
1. We aren't DJI's "biggest customer".
2. Because of Skydio's government contacts/contracts, including hiring former gov't officials, they do have immense influence. Of course, it helps that they also have the support of other US based drones companies.
3. This isn't about security, per se', is about getting the average Joe Smoe's cameras out of the sky. Some believe it's to pave the way for drone delivery, but I also wonder if it isn't to lessen the number of prying eyes out there. Police departments and other gov't agencies are already concerned with smartphone cameras documenting their every move. Now include flying cameras in the hands of hundreds of "1st amendment auditors"... American made drones well cost significantly more than comparable DJI products, lessening their proliferation amongst the common people.
4. DJI has been investigated and cleared several times of these same allegations. It's just amazing that this keeps coming up. Especially from idiots that are most likely carrying around a Chinese manufactured phone in their pockets as they traverse the corridors of the federal government and sit through committee meetings. Even if they don't have them on them in the gov't buildings, they certainly do 90% of the rest of the time. Not to mention whatever Google or Alexa products they might have at home.
This is all so idiotic and blatantly disingenuous that it genuinely turns my stomach to think we are governed by such buffoons!
"This is all so idiotic and blatantly disingenuous that it genuinely turns my stomach to think we are governed by such buffoons!"
Exactly how the 2A community feels...
@JohnDoeTheTroll Oh I also own my fair share of guns... You're exactly right, this post could easily be transferred to a 2A video.
The USA is the number two (1,22 billion dollars) largest buyer of DJI droners, following China.(1.25 billion dollars)
He gets a lot of things wrong. Lol
@@peterdirection4608 Yup!
As a new business owner who uses DJI drones, videos like this Russ really help set the tenor of a solid conversation. I just wish our lawmakers had more of the right information and less lobbying dollars.
I think, and hope, you're right. But buffoonery is what our government specializes in. To anyone reading, contact your elected officials about this!
Elise Stefanik wouldn't read anything you sent her.... that isn't what she does. Her agenda is set by the largest lobbyist doner.
Complicated topic. However, speaking as someone who works in a very technical field (data/communications related), and has dealt with data security related issues I have ZERO doubt the Chinese government collects data on foreign adversaries and their citizens. Saying that, you also have to realize there isn't a comprehensive federal law in the United States that explicitly prohibits companies from selling customer data to third parties that might ultimately end up in the hands of foreign adversaries like China. Trust me, you have no idea where your personal data ends up today. It gets collected domestically, bought/sold to various other companies (foreign and domestic), and you have no idea ultimately where that data ends up. Let's take the example of even our own US government's surveillance activities were not widely known to the public until revealed by whistleblowers. Most notable, disclosure by Edward Snowden and NSA surveillance programs.
If you’re not worried about DJI getting banned for everyone, then neither am I Russ! Thoroughly enjoying my Mini Pro 4, such a great little drone.
i am 68 and I too have a Mini pro4 and an RC2, I never would have believed this when even in my 20's that i would have a flying color movie camera....in HS we had no computers or calculators, i used a slide rule lol. had a sheath on my belt for it...looked like i had a mini sword. I am just totally awestruck when flying. I had a Spark before, but the mini 4 is totally awesome.
Do you fly FPV with the mini 4?
It’s dangerous to completely surrender your analysis and judgment to anyone, including Russ.
I'm more worried about the overreaching US Congress than unsubstantiated claims about DJI Drones.
I JUST bought a second hand mini 4 pro almost brand new for 200 with the fly more combo last week. Love the controller.
Thank you Russ! You’ve eased my anxiety over this. I just got a New Air 3 and love DJIs products. You are my favorite to watch on TH-cam. Love your videos. Keep them coming and God Bless your wife and family. Stay strong, Bruce.
I have never given this topic much thought and I agree with your assessment. As I approach my 75th. Birthday I be flying as much as I can!
2:13 Larry's wheat field holds unknown secrets! 😅
We can't let them know the secret behind crop circles!
@@jokerswld8 children of the corn flakes
Your logic is correct, but unfortunately I don’t think the US government thinks that logically 😅
Also if DJI is banned in the US they will still lose their biggest market. They won’t be able to continue with their current level of innovation and R&D. The average consumer isn’t going to buy a DJI drone with non DJI branding on it.
I enjoyed this video. I’ve been a subscriber to your channel for about 2-years. You put out some of the best information on drones & tips on how to fly better & safer. Thank you for the great content you produce. I have 3 questions on the subject matter you discussed on this video ‘DJI Drone Ban-Why I’m Not Worried.” First, while we know DJI drones connect to various satellites where you fly, how do you know if the data your DJI drones exchange with those satellites isn’t also transmitting your footage back to the Chinese government (via their connections with DJI)? Second, don’t you think it would be better for drone consumers in our country to by American? Third, will you do review videos on the Specta Air and the Anzu Robotics Raptor drones?
Completely agree with you mate
The only concern I have with this take is that it comes from a position of free market thought. No, I’m sure the leadership of DJI wouldn’t want to risk losing their market share in America. But the Chinese government has a record of requiring compliance at the point of a gun.
I agree with you that the data capture isn’t actually occurring. I also think this is political grandstanding by uninformed politicians on the right (uninformed as it relates to drones). Unfortunately, uninformed politicians make bad decisions on both sides all too often.
right, that's why it takes about $60 to get out of the grocery store with two small bags
@@MannyDer Also not one Dem opposed this in committee
As with everything in government, follow the money. Any ban would have nothing to do with national security.
better outlaw all tourist cameras also
A friend of mine adviced me that if I travel to any country that is adversary to the west like China, make sure you get a disposable phone for these countries can take your phone and take all your information.
And all iPhones which are made in China. Ooops!
And google EARTH
I've always said that same exact thing. Google maps shows more information than any DJI drone.
I personally think USA is trying to profit from DJI. Look at Anzu and their stupid prices. They expect us to pay for a DJI drone and give them an extra $1,500 dollars. It's crazy, I would rather forget about the hobby than to buy a drone for that price.
Thanks for sharing Russ
Many times I have not agreed with you, but this time you are spot on. Not only am I a drone 107 pilot but a private pilot and aircraft owner. One might as well ban toasters as they collect about the same volume of data as does one of my several DJI Drones. If it comes to data - what collects more than a cell phone (most of which have components from China). Overhead info?? Google Earth provides more than any drone. And how about the 800 Chinese satellites that we know about. One should be more concerned with the data that our own government wants to collect.
Cant you see he is only telling you exactly what you want to hear. You cant use logic when it comes to Capital Hill! Wishful thinking wont change the outcome!
Using logic, the Bill shouldnt have gotten this far!
@@WW5RM Yes, Your are correct that it should not have gotten this far, but this is not new. My Mooney plane had most parts supply “frozen” because a Chinese company purchased Mooney. Eventually the Chinese company sold because it could not survive without US sales. However, Mooney now sits in “no business limbo” in part because of US federal regulators. The FAA has changed from the regulators that we knew in 80’s & 90’s. They have opened up to foreign aircraft and engines (where most innovation is coming from), and the LSA’s change are beyond anything that we could have expected. One must distinguish between the law makers (Congress) who are mostly ignorant of what the real world is doing and the regulators (FAA) who is living the real world every day and is and has been very supportive of drones - working hard to get to BVLOS.
I’m a recreational drone operator who uses my drone for my own personal use, photos of the area where I live. I’m not sure how much any of my photos will be a problem
And they can take my DJI drone from my cold dead hands lol
I think it is pretty common knowledge which US company has been driving a large part of this. I agree with Russ, there is more than one single company and plenty of politics and fear-mongering here. It is worth pointing out that the recently hired Director of Federal Policy for Skydio is Joe Bartlett, coming directly from his job as National Security Advisor to Elise Stefanik, the very same Representative from NY who is drafting and pushing the bills we are talking about. Hard to not draw some lines through that revolving door...
Follow the bribes.
Our government is so corrupt and then we go and point our guns at any country that refuses to run their country as we do. Crazy times we live in.
Russ, I guess my thought was always that "If there was a full DJI ban" we could fly with Mavin or another 3rd Party App. I believe that if a Ban comes that it will be in the FCC side banning DJI's "apps" and not their hardware.. But again there are other apps we can fly with that will not be banned. I would love to see DJI come out with a U.S. version of the App DJIFly (I have suggested that to DJI but never heard back). It seems to me that having a U.S. based and certified client would totally eliminate any threat of spying or any type of data mining. Just my opinion.. Thanks
Thank you for your input. I’ve been worried about this for awhile. I only own one drone (DJI mavic air 2) but I honestly love their product. Love your channel. Keep doing what you do.
Thank you very much Russ for shedding some much needed well thought out wisdom on this topic...!!! Very much appreciated!!!
Great informative video. With so many individuals that have dismantled modified and repaired DJI drones, you'd figure something would've been discovered by now. Their entire argument (if any) doesn't hold an ounce of water.
Thank you Russ for all your insights to this. I really agree with everything you are saying and don't have any fears of loosing my ability to fly my DJI fleet. Thanks for ALL you do brother!
WELL, hate to inform you, but I work for the state of California as a Land Surveyor and we formerly used All DJI for photogrammetry. As of now, DJI is officially banned from the Government of California and we are now using Skydio for photogrammetry, which is a big deal. What these new Skydio interprise type drones are doing, will most likely strengthen ALL bans on Chinese drones doing government work and eventually commercial as well.
In the end, it really doesn't matter what name DJI like companies use, if they are not US companies, they will be bye bye. I don't like it, but it is what it is
California is in a different world and nothing that happens there is a surprise. Will be interesting.
Despite all the wishery, I think they will eventually band DJI Drones. American-made drones would never be allowed to operate in the CCP. Why is that!? My guess is for the same reasons why our Government doesn't want them operating inside the US.
Thank you for this video. It made me less anxious now. I still have & fly my original DJI Mavic Mini and still loving it
Great stats. Thanks for laying it out Russ!
Great Read Thanks
Thanks Russ, Appreciate The Fantastic Information.
Happy Flying!
I am a huge DJI fan boy. Had the Air2S for about a year and a half before I sold it. Sold it only because I wasn't using it enough and couldn't justify getting the part 107 license. The drone itself was 100% flawless. NEVER had a single issue with it. I currently have the DJI Mic and the action 3 camera.
Thx dude I just got into camera drones and DJI is the only brand I'm buying from. I'm only 13 and I'm currently saving up for a DJI Mini 2 SEWI already have 135$ and you probably already know that it cost's 270$. I can't wait to get it.
Appreciate your updates! Bought a shirt too to rep the channel!
With the DJI emergence into the agriculture business it's been a game changer. Its changed the way we do business.
You demonstrated the ability/skill of using common sense and logic to come to the conclusion that consumer drones pose no threat to national security. However, the US congress has shown time and time again, they are either unwilling or incapable of exercising this ability/skill.
Thank You Russ For your honest and constructive answer I have had so many idiots demean me because I have DJI Drones on sale
I'm tired of these kids ! offering me $100 for a $900 asking price I'm just tired of this Society just sick and tired of it all !
Russ, I value your in-depth knowledge and information for us all. I'm not worried.
I believe some of the bans were related to FCC indicating that no DJI drone could utilise communication frequencies to operate. So that would make it illegal for people to use DJI drones. I agree though, the ban doesn't make sense. Just political posturing... The political posturing goes away if they actually follow through.
Large donors want to see their competition (aka DJI) disappear. The senators that are for banning DJI are either getting large donations or they are being blackmailed.
Thank you so much for that info you provided... And yes I feel much much less worried about the DJI ban that may or may not happen .
Less anxious ! Well thought out and explained. But I can say that about all of your DJI Drone videos. Thank you!
Everything you are explaining is spot-on !!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree, well done 👏 Russ from 🇬🇧
So do agree.
Great summary Russ!
Food for thought thank you
Good video and great insight.
I’m less anxious but still worried. Love your informative videos!
Truth, justice and the American way
Probably have some so-called competitor lobbying the heck out of this thing so they can get more of their toy-tier drones on the market instead.
My concern would be more about the app's permissions and what it could get from certain users or clients, particularly government agencies. Those data breach capable firmware/app software loads wouldn't be updated and utilized until the last moment. As far as your pics and videos, he's right, those are fairly useless and quite common knowledge. Google Earth has that covered. Your local police data, your senator who flies drones phone data, or access to microphone listening- that is where shit gets messy. Chinese companies unfortunately have little choice but to comply if and when the CCP rolls into thier office. Might sound crazy, but it is possible. Google is constantly monitoring voice for targeted ads. We have to be vigilant with every possible threat. This same concern is why TikTok is getting pushed against.
I agree 100%. Most people who use drones or tiktok cant wrap their head around this because its easier to believe that the government is corrupt than consider sacrificing some dopamine. I just think its the competent thing to do, China does it to their people and I see it as competent cybersecurity policy. I have chinese security cameras in my house and they're firewalled from the rest of my devices and ever talking back home to servers. most people arguing against these bans have a wifi password that you can crack in 15 minutes, they really should be glad that other people care about this shit
perhaps a 100% ban is overboard, but people need to be more security conscious. most people assuming this is all about money without knowing the first thing about technology is disappointing. if china overtakes the US, this kind of general stupidity will be why.
Excellent perspectives Russ! ;-) Much gratitude! T
Great informative video as always Russ, thanks! I hate to ask, but Ive been sending all the great vibes for your wife that I can and was hoping that she is doing well. Take care buddy
Google Maps have a picture of everything why would they wanna ban drones. That sounds so stupid of the Americans Government. SATELLITES
I rest a little easier, and I agree with you. I feel the same way. I don’t think it’s gonna be an issue. Now just I know it’s on a personal level, but I haven’t heard how things were going with you and your family. I hope everything’s going well.
Thanks! That all makes very much sense! My worries are gone! :)
The reason I'm concerned is because several states have implemented a DJI ban for ALL public agencies. It's already in effect.
Thx Russ for your viewpoints; I’m in total agreement with you.
I really like how you bring common sense to your videos! Keep up the good work.
"Isn't it safe to assume our adversaries probably already have that information?" yes
Google Earth, Facebook, Google, TH-cam, and Instagram all offer the same conglomeration of free information to parse. LOL
It’s ridiculous that DJI will be banned, so therefore, it will be done.
Government and military cyber-warfare goes beyond social media, they can use everything if there is a war. China bans all western products and even Teslas to their government and military staff as these can be used to spy on them. Ever heard the saying that your phone can listen to you? That's because it's true, a simple update and or command can make your phone a spy tool and you wouldn't even know about it and it will not leave a trace.
You’re easing my anxiety a bit, but Geesh! I just bought mine to shoot awesome aerial footage for my feature films.
As i continue to learn more about dji dronea and to get my part 107 sorry for this blank account i will have another channel in the future after i pass my exam but that cuts alot or relief away i just purchases my air 3 and love it i have a mini 3 as well and keep having in my mind if it will be a lost investment thank you for all your input and information i will subscribe and join your channel after i start mine always good listening to your point of view.
I pretty much agree with everything you said, and you did your usual clear, concise addressing of the issues involved. I just hope you’re (we’re) right about this. These are insane times when it comes to government actions, (even and including ) the Supreme Court. One other thought: If DJI gets banned, what could China do to retaliate? How about stop building proucts sold in the USA for US companies? They could also stop selling components to the US. That would pretty much cripple the entire US economy. The real issue here (and you covered it perfectly) is whether the company is actually doing anything they’re being accused of. I doubt it. And they’ve complied with every rule the US has put down, including RFID and no-flight zone requirements.
Thanks!
You’re awesome! Thank you! 🙏🏻
This is great news, Thank you Russ!
It’s about money. They want to please their donors. Give American companies the edge.
I absolutely agree.
on TH-cam they have ads for SKYDIO . They show police and the Army using them....looks like Skydo drones do not fly or respond like DJI's drones. The politician that wants DJI banded sits on the SKydo board....................conflict of interests ?
Agree with all you've said. Good video.
I just bought one and it took me so long to save. I am not a rich person. If they ban it's operation, I don't know what Im going to do...
Russ…thank you for keeping us informed on the “Ban” of drones! You are a breath of fresh air!
You have a point but the only other reason would be if DJI is making more money from sharing information regardless on how large there market in the us is and that’s only if they are doing that
I worked my a@@ off to finally afford my DJI Matrice 30T and I’m working hard to make a profit with it and pay it off! If my $13,000 drone becomes a paperweight because a bunch of inferior drone companies don’t want to compete on an even playing field there will be lawsuits levied at the Commercial Drone Alliance and their partners! How dare they!! what new and up-and-coming company is going to replace my M 30 T with a Drone they performs equally well and gives me back the money I’ve lost?
what you’re saying does give me some comfort Russ, it’s just the idea that these companies and their politicians would have the gall to do something like this really ticks me off!
It won't be a paperweight. The FCC isn't going to block the communication spectrum if they actually withdraw the license from DJI. Your drone will continue to work, especially if you keep it offline.
Very well said!!
Another great video! Thanks for the info. Just for information sake, what if the ban succeeds? Would drone operators have to surrender their drones? If so the government needs to work out some kind of reimbursement option as I personally have quite a bit of money tied up in my drone and other DJI equipment.
Nobody really knows the answer, but you would not have to surrender your drones. I know that for sure.
Google has sent cars with camera to systematically map every single US road (and surrounding infrastructure) with high resolution images and frequent updates. I think that combined with any Chinese spy satellites would be far better for intelligence gathering than hoping a random drone pilot happens to fly by a point of interest.
You are right my friend is all bullshit pretty sure Amazon has greased a few palms
Like how people don't like public photos being taken. But google does it everyday.
or the folks that think the govt is spying on them but they have ALEXA etc. but are on 3579 cameras ERRR DAMN DAYYY lol
Thanks
I appreciate you! 🙏🏻
The quickest way to promote or increase sales of an item is to talk about it being banned.
Not so with Huawei
Russ, i completely agree with you. I try to answer these questions and more to my family and friends and clients about how I may soon have over $15K in decorations sitting on my shelves. Its ludicrous and im completely ashamed to live where I live. Yes, I live in N.Y. and you know why i feel this way.
Hi Russ,,, This is Russ I just joined your channel.. I'm in the Drone school you recommended ,
Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly did you mean by “local data mode”? Is that just another term for DJI’s proprietary transmission signal? Or something else?
It will come down to money, who will pay the politicians the most! The lobbyists for DJI or another player.
I'm not really that concerned either, I don't think it will ever happen. And worst case scenario, it does happen, well as you just pointed out the white label DJI drones will be available. Great video Russ, and thanks for sharing.
Great explanation Russ! Thanks for posting. Still keeping you and your wife in my prayers 🙏🏻 hope she is doing well.
SO nicely said Russ!! Completely banning DJI drones would be both catastrophic and just plain 'impossible' to accomplish I believe. I just bought the Air 3 (Awesome bird BTW), but hesitated buying it for months because of this whole 'ban DJI' crap.. But after doing some of my own research, I decided (exactly what you mentioned in this video) that it is completely illogical to even 'try' to ban literally millions of drones.. 🤦 and if such a thing did happen, you'd probably start seeing all kinds of black market 'drone hacks' popping up.. 😂 Great video Russ, Always appreciate your professional opinion 👍👍
Tik Tok ban happened for the same reason and it is already signed into law.... I could see this happening
America is not DJI's largest market
I have had Autels for several years, but since thy refuse to continue to keep batteries in supply when they discontinue models, made me switch to DJI..
Thanks for your video and don't listen to all the propaganda.
God Bless America..
JC
Thanks Russ
I just crashed my avata 2 & waiting for the shipment for my replacement. I'm still in the first 30 days of owning it and I am concerned. We could be told they aren't sharing data but how do we know for sure 😢
Thanks Russ for your perspective and explanation! Its a damn shame that this country overreaches where it shouldn't and underreaches where it should! Its insane man! I mean for real! There are people who should be locked up but instead are treated like royalty. Hmm? So twisted. Thanks again Russ!
I don’t personally agree with a ban on DJI and I hope it does not happen. However, there are several questionable assumptions in this video. First, very few people who aren’t involved with this specific issue directly or professionally are in a position to know what sort of information has and can be passed to the government of China. Second, decisions by foreign owned companies are not always in the hands of those companies executives - we should not apply our logic of rational business decision making to them. Third, one should not assume that the US government can so easily protect data- many countries have active and aggressive cyber warfare programs and it’s an ongoing battle. I would just be cautious with assumptions, that’s all.
Thank you, Russ, for bringing common sense discussion to this issue. I like what you said about Google searches. Also, you can't tell me "they" don't have satellites capable of 'looking' at whatever they want. Geez, I'm a recreational flyer so does the government REALLY need to ban my drone? Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the update. The drone is no more a threat than public Google maps is.
Excellent video. You gained a sub here.
Likely
To be honest. Chinese government can easily run any private chinese company and look into their data. Same with ovens,rumbas amything with wifi basically.
Hi Russ! I think it's great that you are having a rational approach to that issue, and help to calm down some of your viewers! However, that drone ban frenzy, is not evidence based, it's purely political motivated xenophobia and financial interest, and actual technology has nothing to do with it.
*People that are in a state of irrational fear, are rarely open to fact based information,* and that's the biggest danger to our industry!
Heck, even CapCut has been mentioned by lawmakers for the chopping block, because they are owned by TikTok's parent company!
The past few years disillusioned me about some politician's ability to reason.