Honda techs won't do this. They just drain and fill your transmission. It's because they won't get paid. Also most don't know this filter exists. Good Job!
@@GTSam They don't do it because it's suppose to last the life of the car, not because of the techs. Would I replace it? Yes. I still haven't after 200k+ miles.
@@joeyyung911 kind of reminds me of most cars these days with "lifetime trans fluid" haha. But the filters sure can last the whole time of the car but I feel like the filter would just get more and more clogged and could effect flow as well.
Any recommendations on doing this for a 2002? it should be the same process right another question do I have to bleed the system or anything? I know it sounds dumb but just want to make sure before I start messing with the transmission. Oh yeah and have you ever used that Lucas transmission stuff?
@@cryptoisaacno only 05-11 I believe. And you don’t need to replace but at 200 000 I mean there’s probably some metal in there for sure so replace the two hoses direct contact to the filter and the other he doesn’t show behind carburetor. Flush from below at the drain plug and always change the washer. Don’t be lazy and say screw it cause it’ll cause problems next flush when the head breaks off on the drain plug. Don’t use Lucas oil unless it’s slip stop and you only need a little. At 200 000 I bet his 2-3 is rough and downshift is temperamental. Highway is best to run fast exceleration test. There is no point opening the filter housing. Waste of time just replace whole filter and housing.
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
Nice vid. I just did this and I also cut it open! looked the same. It fixed my shuddering transmission. Now if only the rest of the car didn't suck also.
@@GTSam Ya, my biggest gripe is the passenger seat sensor. This has been out for years and I refuse to replace it because the cost is about half the value of the car. Seems to be not an uncommon issue either.
I just finished my Filter change job, took about three hours, i went four but took a hour break to re watch some videos and wash up have a drink . My car is 16 years old, an 09 civic and the hoses were baked on. I used a small pick tool as the hose removal tool wouldn't work with several extra minutes of just trying to loosen the hoses. i couldn't get to the upper clamp of the lower hose so i removed the lower clap to the trans line. it was still a pain. The Air cleaner box removal was a pain like most people have getting it off. Then after finally getting new hoses and filter with the old clamps the mounting bracket gave me trouble but finally got it on and got the bolt started, getting the bolt started is pain to be contended with. A mechanic shop probably would've charged me 3 hours labor at 125 an hour plus double the cost of the filter, so about 400 bucks for this job. Now that i did it i decided its done and wont happen again! Its one of those jobs that's like climbing Mt Everest but once done... I find that it helps to know where the likely areas that will be trouble are. Like getting the hold down bolt in the rear right of the sir cleaner box, getting access to the clamps etc. but its not impossible for anyone determined to save money, but just be prepared. have all the tools and have new hoses and i would replace the clamps with standard worm gear clamps it would save time ,effort and some swearing etc.!
@@GTSam I was thinking the best way might be to just cut/pry off the old hose clamps since they are such a PITA. then use the other type of clamps ( Worm gear style) and put on the filter with the bracket first before connecting a hose. taking out the hoses and filter as a unit helps and at least sometimes needed. It is so much easier to use a stubby flat blade screwdriver than try to get a big flat- nose or even a needle nose on those clamps. I took off the heater hose bracket but not the hoses themselves. but that also could've saved time, i just didn't want to dear with bleeding the radiator or adding some fluid there. I just noticed, you didnt remove the cowl panel body part above, i took mine off along with the metal piece with the nine bolts and that took a while as far as overall time of my job but it gave more room and a little more light down below with them off.
The previous filter was inside the transmission and was prone to get clogged if people failed to adhere to the service intervals … I guess to make Honda transmissions last longer , the filter was placed outside the transmission (but there could still be an internal filter too … not sure) …
I very much say no but they don't exactly say "flow" with an arrow pointing a direction. But opening it up, you can see how it works and it may be okay. If you can flip it around, it may be a good idea. That's just me.
I’m going to drain and fill my fluid, so can I just drain first, replace filter, then fill to reduce the risk of making a mess when removing the filter?
The filter is on the top side and only has fluid flowing through it when the car is actively running. You won’t even really lose much fluid. After you cut off your car pretty much all the fluid drains back down into the trans itself. Which is why you check the fluid after turning the car off.
Great video. I bought a 2003 Honda Civic LX, instead of an air filter box, it has a long curved chrome pipe with a blue open air filter at the end. What would you suggest I Do? Should I leave it alone or find get an air filter box and put it as it was when made? Why would someone do it like that? Thanks, great videos.
Hey, my friend! Just saw this and maybe a bit late to respond but I still will. Sounds like you have a "cold air intake" which is fine. It's probably a short arm and might suck more warm air than cooler air being so close to the engine. Does makes fun sounds though! I'd keep it unless you're worried about sucking up a ton of water in rain storms or deep puddles and could hydrolock the engine. But that isn't always the case. My TL has a long cold air intake for like...9 years? And it's never had a problem. People usually do it because it looks and sounds cool and some MINOR performance gains (the word is still out on that).
Is there a strainer filter im the transmission itself also? I checked on Rock Auto and they have 2 filters for this model of Civic. The in-line filter which you just changed and apparently a strainer filter that looks like it goes in the transmission itself. Can anyone elaborate on if the strainer can also be easily changed?
Be careful ordering from that section in RA. They aren't really "wrong" but the filter you are talking about is this: Honda 25420-PHT-003. I checked with a Honda part site and it is not for 1.8L engines. It's meant for smaller cars/engines like hybrids, 1.3L and 1.0L (Insight and Hybrid Civics.) That's where you drop the pan and then pop out the filter.
@@dillonshuffle I believe there is air in the system or not enough fluid. Follow the Honda procedure for checking ATF fluid levels and see what you have. Report back!
"apparently a strainer filter that looks like it goes in the transmission itself." A "Strainer" isn't a filter but just a screen/plastic mesh. The filter is outside and when it's replaced that's it. Change oil and you're done.
Thanks a lot,man! I changed ATF last weekend. But unfortunately, i didn't manage to split air filter box and downstream rubber pipe even loosing it with 5.5mm socket. And how did you remove the plastic rivert at the left side? There's a rubber washer
First, you need Hose clamps with the round edge to wrap around the Hose to Twist it. Second, a trick I use, put a pick or screwdriver at the end of the Hose, pry the edge up just a bit from the pipe, spray plenty if silicon or WD40 INSIDE the Hose contact area, let it sit for 5 minutes. It will always break the bond. Also, I hate how Honda assmble that ngs, I am a Toyota guy, only work on Honda for family members
ya I see a mod in my cars future, a fender mounted spin on trans filter mod! will need to do some research to plan it out. I miss my 99 altima! (Got stolen and totaled)
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
You could have ran the car to heat up the hose before removing. Then let sit till engine is more then 100 but less then running temperature. Filter will pop right off hoses
No it shouldn't. Honda/Acura usually only have one. Other brands are usually inside but they've only been out for me. I think the TLs eventually went to internal.
Wow !! That must of really sucked! I don’t think the Honda mechanics even know it’s there or don’t wanna know it’s here because he never said nothing to me about a filter
It’s possible! I still remember ordering filters before and I got to the dealership and they said “what is this for, a lawn mower?” Haha so that kind of tells you all of it.
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
@@GTSam Glad to hear it! Out of curiosity, what kind of odd shifting behavior did you notice before you did the filter swap? My 2011 8th gen Civic is currently at 113,000+ miles and it used to "rev match" when going down hills and would downshift into a lower gear while revving up. Now, it doesn't do that but instead, the RPM will drop below 1,000 almost down into the 500-400 range before going back to just below 1,000 RPM. I recently started driving far more gently than usual. The tranny doesn't seem to know how to respond to light throttle. Sometimes when slowing to a halt by coasting after going easy on the throttle, the RPMs will fluctuate going up and down rapidly as I slow down. I just want to make sure that my trans isn't having any major issues like a solenoid or god forbid a catastrophic failure. I abused it a little when I bought the car at 93,000 miles and I love my car and want it to last. It usually shifts gently when on flat surfaces but likes to shift gears when going up hills on a slight delay like it can't tell exactly how steep the gradient is. I'm going to change the filter this weekend if I can get to it. Cancel Reply
@@synthdriver8817 great question. It does also really depend on who had the car before you. For me, a mid-age gentleman had it and would barely drive it and he swapped the teams fluid out every other oil change (intense, right?). So, I knew it would last and took care of it like I would have. But it does sound a little wonky. One of my sayings is "commit to the gear change" as in if you know you're trans is about to shift gears, don't instantly give it gas and confuse it cause it could damage things slightly. It might be a good idea though to first DRAIN AND FILL the transmission fluid with OEM HONDA FLUID. Emphasis on that because a flush would be bad and Hondas like their fluid and filters. It's a good start then after that can look into other things. I know going down hill and breaking with mine it will shift lower then raise RPMs but that's normal. Also, if you have too much or too little fluid, could cause issues too.
@@synthdriver8817 awesome! If you want to be really though, do a 3x3. 3 drains and 3 refills. Even two is better than one but did that for my Acura once and it was great.
Sorry man. Hard to want to follow what you are doing if you have the name of parts wrong. Intake manifold. Airbox. Etc. Not being rude. Just saying. Thanks
It's a good detailed video. Just lowers the confidence when a small thing like that is left in the edit. I'm not sure on the rest of the video. Sorry didn't finish it. But just was a suggestion. Work is good tho. Thanks
Ah, I found it. Thanks for the heads up! It was a bit ago so I think I was looking at the manifold and pointing to the box haha. But good to know for the future.
So glad to see somebody else struggle like me!
I struggle the most so you can struggle less! 😅
Honda techs won't do this. They just drain and fill your transmission. It's because they won't get paid. Also most don't know this filter exists. Good Job!
Thanks for commenting and watching! But you're right, they don't do this or really acknowledge it and that's why no one does it.
@@GTSam They don't do it because it's suppose to last the life of the car, not because of the techs. Would I replace it? Yes. I still haven't after 200k+ miles.
@@joeyyung911 kind of reminds me of most cars these days with "lifetime trans fluid" haha. But the filters sure can last the whole time of the car but I feel like the filter would just get more and more clogged and could effect flow as well.
Any recommendations on doing this for a 2002? it should be the same process right another question do I have to bleed the system or anything? I know it sounds dumb but just want to make sure before I start messing with the transmission. Oh yeah and have you ever used that Lucas transmission stuff?
@@cryptoisaacno only 05-11 I believe. And you don’t need to replace but at 200 000 I mean there’s probably some metal in there for sure so replace the two hoses direct contact to the filter and the other he doesn’t show behind carburetor. Flush from below at the drain plug and always change the washer. Don’t be lazy and say screw it cause it’ll cause problems next flush when the head breaks off on the drain plug. Don’t use Lucas oil unless it’s slip stop and you only need a little. At 200 000 I bet his 2-3 is rough and downshift is temperamental. Highway is best to run fast exceleration test. There is no point opening the filter housing. Waste of time just replace whole filter and housing.
I ordered a sump filter for the transmission. After watching your video I dont think I even want to bother with the in-line filter. Thanks!
Awesome! Glad to help! You shouldn't have too many issues. May your transmission run clean.
Ooh a sump filter.. Do you have the link for one? Im interested to see how it works
@BennDuong I canceled the order on that filter (which was probably for a different car), I don't think there is a sump filter for the 2010 civic.
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
Nice vid. I just did this and I also cut it open! looked the same. It fixed my shuddering transmission. Now if only the rest of the car didn't suck also.
@@Nebulation awesome! Glad your trans is behaving a bit better now! Haha, the Civic is just a basic car... Ain't no luxury...(sadly)
@@GTSam Ya, my biggest gripe is the passenger seat sensor. This has been out for years and I refuse to replace it because the cost is about half the value of the car. Seems to be not an uncommon issue either.
@Nebulation is that for the airbag sensor?
@@GTSam yes, that part is 1k new. I'm contemplating bypassing it, or just replacing the seat.
@Nebulation dang. Can't get that pulled from a yard or eBay?
I just finished my Filter change job, took about three hours, i went four but took a hour break to re watch some videos and wash up have a drink . My car is 16 years old, an 09 civic and the hoses were baked on. I used a small pick tool as the hose removal tool wouldn't work with several extra minutes of just trying to loosen the hoses. i couldn't get to the upper clamp of the lower hose so i removed the lower clap to the trans line. it was still a pain. The Air cleaner box removal was a pain like most people have getting it off. Then after finally getting new hoses and filter with the old clamps the mounting bracket gave me trouble but finally got it on and got the bolt started, getting the bolt started is pain to be contended with. A mechanic shop probably would've charged me 3 hours labor at 125 an hour plus double the cost of the filter, so about 400 bucks for this job. Now that i did it i decided its done and wont happen again! Its one of those jobs that's like climbing Mt Everest but once done... I find that it helps to know where the likely areas that will be trouble are. Like getting the hold down bolt in the rear right of the sir cleaner box, getting access to the clamps etc. but its not impossible for anyone determined to save money, but just be prepared. have all the tools and have new hoses and i would replace the clamps with standard worm gear clamps it would save time ,effort and some swearing etc.!
Way to stick with it!
@@GTSam I was thinking the best way might be to just cut/pry off the old hose clamps since they are such a PITA. then use the other type of clamps ( Worm gear style) and put on the filter with the bracket first before connecting a hose. taking out the hoses and filter as a unit helps and at least sometimes needed. It is so much easier to use a stubby flat blade screwdriver than try to get a big flat- nose or even a needle nose on those clamps. I took off the heater hose bracket but not the hoses themselves. but that also could've saved time, i just didn't want to dear with bleeding the radiator or adding some fluid there. I just noticed, you didnt remove the cowl panel body part above, i took mine off along with the metal piece with the nine bolts and that took a while as far as overall time of my job but it gave more room and a little more light down below with them off.
Perfect, wanted to see how it looks inside, Thanks.
@@aakudev I have to check every time 😅
@GTSam Lucky you😜
After seeing the inside of it ya, think I will be changing it with every fluid change, but will looking into moding to a spin on style.
@@Refertech101 good thinking! Converting it is interesting! If you do it, report back with your discovery!
The previous filter was inside the transmission and was prone to get clogged if people failed to adhere to the service intervals … I guess to make Honda transmissions last longer , the filter was placed outside the transmission (but there could still be an internal filter too … not sure) …
Pretty much.
Civic has two filters, the inside the transmition, the second is the showed in this video
Can this filter be installed reverse? My mechanic installed it with the larger section downward where the bracket mounts it. The rim/lip is top side.
I very much say no but they don't exactly say "flow" with an arrow pointing a direction. But opening it up, you can see how it works and it may be okay. If you can flip it around, it may be a good idea. That's just me.
I’m going to drain and fill my fluid, so can I just drain first, replace filter, then fill to reduce the risk of making a mess when removing the filter?
Sure can! Either order is good.
The filter is on the top side and only has fluid flowing through it when the car is actively running. You won’t even really lose much fluid. After you cut off your car pretty much all the fluid drains back down into the trans itself. Which is why you check the fluid after turning the car off.
Great video.
I bought a 2003 Honda Civic LX, instead of an air filter box, it has a long curved chrome pipe with a blue open air filter at the end. What would you suggest I Do?
Should I leave it alone or find get an air filter box and put it as it was when made?
Why would someone do it like that?
Thanks, great videos.
Hey, my friend! Just saw this and maybe a bit late to respond but I still will. Sounds like you have a "cold air intake" which is fine. It's probably a short arm and might suck more warm air than cooler air being so close to the engine. Does makes fun sounds though!
I'd keep it unless you're worried about sucking up a ton of water in rain storms or deep puddles and could hydrolock the engine. But that isn't always the case. My TL has a long cold air intake for like...9 years? And it's never had a problem. People usually do it because it looks and sounds cool and some MINOR performance gains (the word is still out on that).
Is there a strainer filter im the transmission itself also? I checked on Rock Auto and they have 2 filters for this model of Civic. The in-line filter which you just changed and apparently a strainer filter that looks like it goes in the transmission itself. Can anyone elaborate on if the strainer can also be easily changed?
This is exactly what I’m trying to figure out
My car started whining this morning
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Be careful ordering from that section in RA. They aren't really "wrong" but the filter you are talking about is this: Honda 25420-PHT-003. I checked with a Honda part site and it is not for 1.8L engines. It's meant for smaller cars/engines like hybrids, 1.3L and 1.0L (Insight and Hybrid Civics.) That's where you drop the pan and then pop out the filter.
@@dillonshuffle I believe there is air in the system or not enough fluid. Follow the Honda procedure for checking ATF fluid levels and see what you have. Report back!
"apparently a strainer filter that looks like it goes in the transmission itself." A "Strainer" isn't a filter but just a screen/plastic mesh. The filter is outside and when it's replaced that's it. Change oil and you're done.
Thanks a lot,man! I changed ATF last weekend. But unfortunately, i didn't manage to split air filter box and downstream rubber pipe even loosing it with 5.5mm socket.
And how did you remove the plastic rivert at the left side? There's a rubber washer
Was that the peg that was sticking out into the rubber plug from the box?
First, you need Hose clamps with the round edge to wrap around the Hose to Twist it. Second, a trick I use, put a pick or screwdriver at the end of the Hose, pry the edge up just a bit from the pipe, spray plenty if silicon or WD40 INSIDE the Hose contact area, let it sit for 5 minutes. It will always break the bond. Also, I hate how Honda assmble that ngs, I am a Toyota guy, only work on Honda for family members
ya I see a mod in my cars future, a fender mounted spin on trans filter mod! will need to do some research to plan it out. I miss my 99 altima! (Got stolen and totaled)
Hello, what is the name of those lines you unscrew at 6:25 there tied together as one piece I need that part but dont know the name
You mean all the metal hoses that are connected in a bunch?
@@GTSam Yes do you know the name?
@@josereid2796 it looks like it's called a Breather Pipe. Part # is Honda 17137-RNA-A00.
@@GTSam Thanks I couldn’t find the name for nothing never e even heard of it.
@@josereid2796 no problem! It's not really something that people replace all the time.
Great video. Thanks! 👍
It’s a 5.5 mm socket for that small clamp on the back intake tube 😉
Thank goodness everyone has a 5.5mm socket :P
@@GTSam Im so glad... I dont have it😂 fk me
@@beethoven8256 Be strong, my friend! We can do this!
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
Nice! Good info for next time when I do it and will experiment!
Thanks a lot of, the detail was excelent! Great job!
Thank you! Glad to help!
You could have ran the car to heat up the hose before removing. Then let sit till engine is more then 100 but less then running temperature. Filter will pop right off hoses
It's a good thought!
does the 8th gen have another filter inside the transmission housing?
No it shouldn't. Honda/Acura usually only have one. Other brands are usually inside but they've only been out for me. I think the TLs eventually went to internal.
Great video, I have the exact same car.
Thanks!
Good car, right? You mod yours at all?
U got me lost for a minute, this one looks like a fuel filter than a transmission filter .
Honda techs thought it was a filter for a lawn mower before when I bought it from them one time haha.
Wow !! That must of really sucked! I don’t think the Honda mechanics even know it’s there or don’t wanna know it’s here because he never said nothing to me about a filter
It’s possible! I still remember ordering filters before and I got to the dealership and they said “what is this for, a lawn mower?” Haha so that kind of tells you all of it.
It’s really not hard. I just changed mine on my 2012 civic only took an hour. Twist the hose where it connects to the filter tube and it will slide right off. I took the bottom hose off first, then unclamped the filter and twisted it while holding the top hose and it came right off. Don’t need to take it out with the hoses but that works as well.
How's your car so far?
Great! In fact, planning on swapping the fluid out soon now too. Filter was newer than the fluid so it's about time.
@@GTSam Glad to hear it! Out of curiosity, what kind of odd shifting behavior did you notice before you did the filter swap? My 2011 8th gen Civic is currently at 113,000+ miles and it used to "rev match" when going down hills and would downshift into a lower gear while revving up. Now, it doesn't do that but instead, the RPM will drop below 1,000 almost down into the 500-400 range before going back to just below 1,000 RPM. I recently started driving far more gently than usual. The tranny doesn't seem to know how to respond to light throttle. Sometimes when slowing to a halt by coasting after going easy on the throttle, the RPMs will fluctuate going up and down rapidly as I slow down. I just want to make sure that my trans isn't having any major issues like a solenoid or god forbid a catastrophic failure. I abused it a little when I bought the car at 93,000 miles and I love my car and want it to last. It usually shifts gently when on flat surfaces but likes to shift gears when going up hills on a slight delay like it can't tell exactly how steep the gradient is. I'm going to change the filter this weekend if I can get to it.
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@@synthdriver8817 great question. It does also really depend on who had the car before you. For me, a mid-age gentleman had it and would barely drive it and he swapped the teams fluid out every other oil change (intense, right?). So, I knew it would last and took care of it like I would have. But it does sound a little wonky. One of my sayings is "commit to the gear change" as in if you know you're trans is about to shift gears, don't instantly give it gas and confuse it cause it could damage things slightly. It might be a good idea though to first DRAIN AND FILL the transmission fluid with OEM HONDA FLUID. Emphasis on that because a flush would be bad and Hondas like their fluid and filters. It's a good start then after that can look into other things. I know going down hill and breaking with mine it will shift lower then raise RPMs but that's normal. Also, if you have too much or too little fluid, could cause issues too.
@@GTSam True. My fluid isn't very clean and probably needs a few extra drain and fills to get it to the right color. New filter is on there though.
@@synthdriver8817 awesome! If you want to be really though, do a 3x3. 3 drains and 3 refills. Even two is better than one but did that for my Acura once and it was great.
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Sorry man. Hard to want to follow what you are doing if you have the name of parts wrong. Intake manifold. Airbox. Etc. Not being rude. Just saying. Thanks
Where at in the video?
2.90ish. You called the airbox a intake manifold.
It's a good detailed video. Just lowers the confidence when a small thing like that is left in the edit. I'm not sure on the rest of the video. Sorry didn't finish it. But just was a suggestion. Work is good tho. Thanks
Ah, I found it. Thanks for the heads up! It was a bit ago so I think I was looking at the manifold and pointing to the box haha. But good to know for the future.
Bro…take your battery out first. That’ll give you tons of room to reach around.
I was in challenege mode. I'll have to make another video in normal mode haha.