I brought FZS V3 matte blue. This bike is so comfortable to ride for a daily commuter. I have to travel around 50 Km every day to my office and other place, and this bike do her job perfectly. Yesterday I was driving at the speed of 85 kmph to 90 kmph. A car who overtook me suddenly stopped at the middle of the road, and then run away. I was panic and press all the brakes and clutch. My bike was in halt within a few seconds. I later chase down the car and catch him in the red light and start giving him some driving lesson. I thank government to make the new rule of having ABS compulsory for ever bike which have more then 125 CC. I thank yamaha too for making this bike with good handling power. Edit : No matter how safely you ride, you will always find some idiot on the road who are the main reason of accidents happening around you.
Got the same machine. A wise man once told me, "95% of the road accidents happen due to mistakes made by other people and you have to be alert to tackle sudden mistakes made by others while riding a motorbike". I would like to share an incident. One day I was on my way to work, the bike was running between 50 to 60 kmph, I saw a kid was picking up a pebble from the side of the road about 200 meters ahead of me, though I did not see his target I pictured what could possibly happen, the boy might hit a dog or cat and that animal would run across the road and possibly collide with my bike. I did not slow my bike down but being alerted I locked my elbows to prevent any sudden thrust that could disrupt my balance. And it happened exactly what I thought ... A dog running madly in its full pace hit my front wheel... thank god I was able to prevent that impact and did not lose my balance because I speculated the incident beforehand. Ride carefully, Respect other bikers on the street. God bless.
The review seems biased. I have ridden Yamaha for more than an year and there are no vibrations at even 7000 rpm. In case of engine refinement Yamaha is still at the top compared to TV's. But I do believe tvs has come close and is going strong.
Yes bro, this review is in the favour of 4v.. I've seen nearly 100+ reviews and videos related to fzs V3 and I'm getting it after 3 days 😍😍 Lots of reviewer said that Yamaha has better engine refinement...
@@abhishekdhibar9641 hmm if u own can u give a review on it after years also it performs well ? Or should I go with v3 and which version is better V2 or V3
@Citizen Kolar lol I own Ntorq and it has none of the issues as you mentioned here. I actually couldn't believe how TVS could make such a perfect vehicle .
In Indian roads with such heavy traffic, no one can constantly commute in speeds above even 50kmph, so engine refinement and mileage is what an middle class indian is all concerned about.
I just got FZS - FI 1 week earlier.. Bike is Superb!!! Looks are stunning Cornering are good Braking is smooth Handling is easy in traffic. Headlights should be more bright. Overall great bike. I took in 1.17L on road price mumbai. Go for it !!!😊
If you need instant pickup! Go for 4V, but if your priority is not high acceleration then go for fzs... I love fzs just because of comfort, handeling, cornering, and the most important after sell service
@@md8uniya684 bro it's done by human. May be in your place they may be not good. But in Kerala worst service is in Honda. Tvs I am. Doing in my relative tvs showroom and I had also seen how they do for other bikes they are doing good. Honda has more cheating in service.
@@aviationkerala2043 I agree with u bro. In my opinion Yamaha and bajaj doing well. Have u heard about a guy who got pissed by TVS service burnt his new TVS bike in front of TVS showroom in chennai. I took the average. My friends are working in tvs and bajaj as service guys, they told me bajaj will often give training to their service teams. Even Royal Enfield service teams sucks. Considering the price point they are the worst.
@@md8uniya684 bro all are trained in every tvs showroom 2 or 3 will be trained from tvs bangloure and bro all are human some are lazy that's what make bad service I use to service in my relative showroom and I had also seen how good they service all bikes. Bro don't say about Bajaj I know some showroom they won't even change oil and say its changed also. Fooled one by saying his radiator fan is not running its complaint but all know that fan will only turn on when engine gets heated. Br can you say Bajaj or tvs last longer. With showroom service in our state Bajaj falis to last for long and most of all sell Bajaj bikes bcz of engine getting bad. And losing interest in bikes. Enfield there are some with bad and good service it depend on mechanic bro I can say to you tvs has best mechanic in India as they are best for mechanic in India. In our place I know one mechanic who is trained in tvs and runs his own work shop. Who works on bikes above 150cc..
@@AnalogBuddy Rather works well for a lesser price and gives some clean old school clean and neat design rather than these quirky modern design which to my liking is a bit of overdose for these small bikes with puny output.. I even feel the older FZ is a better handler and had some character which the newer versions lack.. The FZ is becoming uglier over each iteration.. The first gen fz16 with the metal pipe grabrail design is a gem that will be missed as years passby.. 10 years from now we'll have an uglier character less commuter which would look like a straight outta fancy dress competition..
@@siddarthsiddhu3406 very true .... All the new bikes from all the manufactures are copying the same design characters that the old FZ had brought to India with naked looks, bulky fuel tank & a wide rear tire. BTW Unicorn is not old school - it looks downright ugly. It doesn't carry any design benchmarks.
Most of the FZ talks are not right. I am a FZ owner, somehow I felt like this is a promotional video of TVS. As the tags are leading to Apache, so this video is planned to promote TVS.
As a yamaha fan, i don't think he said anything wrong. I was planning to buy r15 but heard of many material quality issues. Apache 160 4v has great quality, far far better than gixxer and fz. Surprisingly, it's again the 4v which has better engine. I have owned tvs bikes and they performs very well in long term
I have bought fzs v3 and i am very much satisfied with it. The thing i like most in this bike is it's looks. It looks much bigger bike in terms of looks especially from the from and the engine reliability of yamaha is unmatched. I have used fazer v1 for 7 years and its engine was so smooth even after 46000kms. That feel i have never experienced in other brands like bajaj tvs and even in suzuki.
@@akulchadha2069 bro if you want top speed and raw power this bike is not for you. Its mid range is nice it will be a very good city bike. Comfortable highway crusing speed is 85-90 kmph above that it feels bit stressed. I have achieved 113 on highway without any problem. But engine refinement is top notch. Build quality is bit poor plastic pannels are bit flimsy but you have to live with that in order to have good looks. I live in mountains so top speed is bot my priority cause there are no such roads here. It will surely make you feel like you are riding a 200-250 cc bike in terms of looks.
@@tarun_M1710 thanks bro and my priority is not top speed I just need a bike for city commuting and some highway rides and a pocket friendly bike, I hope it can give milege of 45+ in city
@@akulchadha2069 bro i had used this bike in cities for a month and it gave me around 42-43 kmpl and my riding style is not mileage friendly. You can definitely expect around 45 kmpl and Even more if you ride properly.
@@AnilChTechChannel I bought FZ V3 bs4 last year. It's very comfortable for both rider and pillion, has good mileage, upright riding posture, soft suspension, braking is excellent with abs.
I don’t know why.. but I found FZS v3 better performing than Apache 160 4v. Not being biased here but ride comfort was also better than Apache. Honestly, guys if the ride quality is not comfortable then it’s not going to be a good ride, having said that I dint find apache ride that good for long rides, speed is not everything. So I am going for yamaha. Just an advise ride both the bikes and compare before you buy.
Riding Fz-S v3.0 from last One year, FZ-s never Compromises on riding Comfort and Braking is Awesome in the Segment. Yamaha Engine and Brakes are always the Best. Getting milage of 52Kmpl in City
@@dingarmahananda4858 in my view For family and city daily, mileage FZs will be better. For racing style, speed and power Apache is best, but You have to test drive and compare both the models which you like the most.
Apache is a beast, no doubt about that, but you missed the point brother. New FZ is for people who need supreme comfort in riding and that seat is a superb one, complimented by that raise handle bar. So you can't say that it cannot be recommended, depends totally on customer.
The problem with zig wheels and CarDekho is that they have lot of reviewer and because of that subscribers are not connecting with channel like we do with others.. Alway loves the reviews from this channel as they give no nonsense review.. But please stick to hue 1 2 reviewer..
This was a very thorough comparison and i congratulate Zigwheeles for making one. Good Work guys. Double Thumbs up. I still own a 2009 FZ16 and all that you have stated about its downgraded since my bikes, is 100% true. In fact, The FZ-S which was launched a year later to mine had Heel guards near the footpegs made out of some metal that quite instantly corroded. On my FZ16, they are made of Aluminium. When i saw this on my friend's bike i got to know that Yamaha was cutting corners. And its been downhill since those days. And my other friend who had got the 2010 160RTR regretted his decision because the engine was not that refined and the gear shifts was not as slick as FZ16. If todays RTR's gear shifts are better than FZ's then I should say that the 160 RTR has come a long way since then. The fact that it has a DOHC header is simply amazing. I was really looking forward to upgrade to a 250cc Yamaha but FZ25 is just a FZ16 with a 250cc engine. Not worth the upgrade. My eyes were lit-up when i saw the Suzuki Gixxer 250. Its literally everything i want in a 250cc bike. Minus a Slipper Clutch. Plz do review it asap.
Looks like TVS has sponsored this vid.. there must be at least few thing good in Yamaha, right ? There sales number are ~18k per month while TVS doesn't provide separate sales number for rtr160 and release overall sales number for all 7-8 Apaches combined and that is 38k.
The 1st gen of Fz was far far better and cool then this polio patient(v3).....they just made the bike fucked up....lot of muscles but the power is not even as expected...🤔🙄
A proud owner of Tvs Apache RtR 160 for 13 years... I have no mind to change it to other bcoz of ride and handling also with good mileage of 55kmpl in city and around 60+kmpl on high way...
Me and my friend went on a road trip with fzs v3 and rtr160. I can clearly see the diff in pickup, rtr is too good in this. But, for choosing the bike height of the rider matters. For the one's with large limbs Fzs is best for comfortable riding. Speed, acceleration, breaking and milege comes next.
After test riding both, bought the the fz-v3 two months back. Didn't like the dual tone colors of apache and seating position. Also the Yamaha showroom guys were 1000% better than TVS. Story time: Went to a TVS showroom in bengaluru and they provided a test drive vehicle that did not start LOL. Then somehow they managed to do it after i waited 30 minutes. To put salt in the wound it just randomly turned off just after i went 100 meters. I asked for a better bike and i was told that is enough and i can buy if i want or go away(didnt tell me to go away straight up but behavior was like that). The fact that they can do this means they must be selling Apache RTRs like hot cakes. Extremely happy with my FZ V3. Lot of youtube videos show max top speed 115-118 kmph. After first service, today i did 123-124. Surely Apache must be better, because reviewers know what they are talking about. But not a single time i thought i should have bought apache rtr and m missing xyz. FYI, i road my colleague's rtr for around 20 kms, didn't feel any thing was better except one thing i.e. at very high revs brake pedals didnt vibrate like in my fz.
Bro let me say that speed shown on your fz won't be crrt as it's even powerless bike than rc125, and old rtr160, gixxer. I use to gor for touring one of my friend had brought fz v3 he never test ride any other and directly brought it what Yamaha sales man told to him was rtr160 4v is bad bike powerless etc.. Bro fz is good for those who never want speed. At its max rpm is 10k. And with racing cdi it can do 130 v2. For fi nothing is available. Rtr160 old model with racing cdi can do 153kmph..i doing know what new one can do.
Are the mileage figures genuine?? How can a 4v engine with a heavier weight give a better fuel economy than a 2v engine carrying a lighter weight? Plzz explain how has tvs managed this!!
Bro I had got 75 kmpl in rtr160 4v as I checked it on highway at 60-70 kmph.. Even tvs didn't believed and they tried it with fuel tank off where it goes near 2 km.
@@aviationkerala2043 according to u... What are the mileage figures for the city? Looking at other mileage reviews people are getting about 40-45 kmpl...
@@lakshyatayal542 I use to change carb setting according to my use. Now iam using power not milage still iam getting around 50 kmpl before in highway I got 75 kmpl with milage setting in traffic I think it's about 50+. Sure Iam using nitrogen and premium petrol. With proper service and I use to Rev high only after engine runs around 10 km..
@@AnkitKushwaha-tg2ru 🤣🤣. Tvs showroom mechanic told it's my luck getting these much milage. But I used it roughly atill 9k km.. 😂 After 10 k I started getting these much milage.
The build quality is really not up to the mark in Yamaha, my r15 v3's fairings near the backlight started to come off, while my brother's r15 v2 is still intact, even though the v2 has handled a lot of rough usage..
Bro lookwise nd performancewise it is superb,but u will have to give special care to it..nd also my advice would be to don't go tripling on it nd don't share ur bike too much.. Because it can ruin it.....
Ok. I have owned rtr 180 and i am using classic 350. I haven't faced a single issue in those bikes. Do you think r15 is a good upgrade? I have heard a lot about new yamaha bike poor body quality which also worries. At the same time, i have also heard that tvs offers better material quality. But i am a fan of yamaha's engines. I just don't want a reliable engine, but also a well build body.
@@Himanshusingh-lv1od bro there are certain body quality issues but they aren't much of an issue if u take care of ur bike...u can go for it..some of my friends who took good care of their r15s still have it in good condition. But i wanna ask one more thing whats ur average commuting distance?
On a crowded metropolitan city with long traffic jams, all a rider needs is comfort to commute long distances daily which the Fz is known for. On crowded Indian streets brakes are a big deal and Fz again excels in that segment. What's the use of a powerful engine in roads you can barely go above 60. Indian rider need comfort and a good braking system rather than a high powered machine with a bad braking system. Reason why sales of fz is faar greater than TVS.
Main Apache rtr 160 4v hp & Yamaha fzs v3 2021 model m confuse hu. Mera height 5 ft 8 inches hai, mujhe office (Daily 42 km approx) aur often touring k liye bike chahiye. Mera preferences kuch iss tarah hai ki 1. Mujhe mileage acha chahiye. 2. Purchase reliability for long period (Engine, other spare parts). 3. Stability and comfort. 4. Decent power for city as well as highway. Please suggest me best bike amongst these two.
You can't get the performance of an RTR in any bikes other than Apache 160 4v in this segment. FZ-S will start crying after 80 kmph speed. Yamaha being a racing company, it's a shame that they have provided such an underpowered machine in FZ-S. If you compare fz with 160 4v, fz is priced more for a 2 valve air-cooled engine, where as Apache comes with 4 valve oil-cooled engine. TVS, being an Indian company have provided best quality products in their bike. Yamaha charges for each n every accessory and will provide with very cheap products. Compare mudguard of Apache with FZ-S, you will get to know.
I am owner of Fzs v3.0...and satisfied with performance and mileage...👍Apache is good bike but not giving that much mileage mentioned in your video👎and the tyre size is smaller than Fzs...
TVS produces the best quality machines. They are just obsessed with providing u the best machine in the segment. ZIG WHEELS is not a small brand to give biased review for some mere bribe. And Vibrations? There are NO vibrations and the engine refinement is TOP CLASS. Yes, earlier apaches had vibrations for sure but not this one. I test rode both, and I really liked Apache and immediately booked for FI variant. Love RTR
I can race a tvs and beat it.. on a highway on mileage, race and brakes 💯 yess brakes are important. And the curve handling due to broad tyres is unmatchable in FZ ! Yes yamaha
Hi I want to buy a 200c bike. I was planning to buy apache 200 bs6 fi engine. I want to know is this my best decision. I need a good milenge, best engine and a good performance with safety. Kindly please suggest
@Easwaran Easwaran i hve meet to an owner of tvs apache 160...he owns bike frm past 11 yrs...he said that its all about maintaining it...and still he gets an average of fuel frm 38 to 40kmpl.
Back then untill 2014 "Haa you're gonna buy FZ?? Well you must be an owner of Fuel station aren't you??" Now things have been reversed.... From aggressive inefficient power full bad guy to more efficient low powered Gentle men type FZ lost it's Charm....
Am an fzs dark knight owner and chennai city commuter for 4 months...my opinion...fzs is a master manipulator...watch closely...he targeted bike foundation like breaks, tyre and torque to power ratio...so you have absolute control and confidence over bike in any situation...so you are the lord of streets...even in speedy ride and speedy cornering and cuts, you have confidence and dont have fear compared to other 150 cc....so what is use of riding so fast with fear of progressive breaking and less cornering ability..if rtr is beast, fzs is lucifer..... Reputed badass brand....i love yamaha....
TVS should have 2 segments. 1 comfort with raised handlebars and footed position and another for sporty style. I would pick Yamaha Fz for comfort. Those who don't do out of city highway should prefer comfort over sporty style and maybe even better engine.
TVs is built well, almost international standards. You only realise the Indian touch when you attend the service station. The service stations needs to raise their standards and work professionally
I have question? What about the quality in long run will tvs able match the quality of engine Yamaha provide? Price is justified here. I ride bike every day more than 100km so in this case TVs bajaj can't able match the quality handling what these Japanese provid
I am confused between Carburetor version and EFI version of TVS Apache 160 4V. Showroom guys says that buy Carburetor one because it's easy to solve problems related to this engine as compared to EFI engine. Please guide me in this.
I see many many users straight away but Fz but not Apache. I see many FZs on road but not Apache. So your reviews going to cost someone who believes you’re reviews were honest.
I am the owner of Apache RTR 160 4v since 2018.. best refined engine.. throttle sound is amazing.. I think this bike is best in 160 cc segments when compared to other brands..
Bro recently I brought Apache 1604v it's not giving good mileage 35 km per litre what should I do for good mileage I have completed first service which engine oil should I use for this bike pls suggest me
@@kites146 bro.. bfre first service ma bike gives 42kmpl and aftr first service gives only around 39 to 40 only.. after complete second service beast gives 45 around... Petrol price around 75rs that time I put petrol for 100rs it gives 62 to 64 kms.. so don't worry.. don't ride high speed upto 3000 kms.. 45-50km speed is good for first two services.. if any emergency be ride at 70-80kmph is okay..
Is there any scope of handle raiser in Apache 160 4V? I own FZ v1. It is the only good FZ. All the predecessors are jokes. My next bike will be RTR 4V🤗
I ride my FZ-S at 80 to 90 kmph regularly at night with confidence... And you say light through is not upto the mark!!??? No wonder the review felt biased
if you are like a street zig zag driver you should go with fz as its handling is better it has better wider tyres. Apache excels in every other things. pickup, speed and everything. apache beats fz I terms of engine.
Apache RTR 4v carburettor double disk version 0-60 hit 3.8 sec in Bangladesh... Only problem in RTR 4v is low mileage 32km.. I hope when FI version comes it will give better mileage...
There are Yamaha's R15 and MT15 (apart from pricing) and FZ25 which are brilliant bikes and there are FZ, FZ-S and Fazer which are dumb as hell I don't know what is up with Yamaha India...
@@adithyagaonkar5424 srry bro only r15 v3 with its segment can say a better bike fz, fz25 are powerless bike in its segment and r15 v3 price comes with rs200, ns200 etc.. Even closer to dominor
@@aviationkerala2043 but for the price FZ25 is a great machine and although it's power is not much but it's lightweight makes it a great bike it's much lighter than other bikes...
Very comprehensive and unbiased comparison. In every review I have seen that the Apache is severely lacking in braking power. Why TVS hasn't done anything about it. Without adequate braking what's the point having such a nice bike. I hope TVS addresses this issue and along with it an full led headlight with good light spread will take Apache to close to perfection. Nice work. Keep it up. Cheers...
Jr Adil, you just nail and bring in the youthness to the video, which PD n team fails too. The end was, something I was waiting for. Gixxer comparo...I am waiting!!
I brought FZS V3 matte blue. This bike is so comfortable to ride for a daily commuter. I have to travel around 50 Km every day to my office and other place, and this bike do her job perfectly. Yesterday I was driving at the speed of 85 kmph to 90 kmph. A car who overtook me suddenly stopped at the middle of the road, and then run away. I was panic and press all the brakes and clutch. My bike was in halt within a few seconds. I later chase down the car and catch him in the red light and start giving him some driving lesson. I thank government to make the new rule of having ABS compulsory for ever bike which have more then 125 CC. I thank yamaha too for making this bike with good handling power.
Edit : No matter how safely you ride, you will always find some idiot on the road who are the main reason of accidents happening around you.
Got the same machine. A wise man once told me, "95% of the road accidents happen due to mistakes made by other people and you have to be alert to tackle sudden mistakes made by others while riding a motorbike". I would like to share an incident. One day I was on my way to work, the bike was running between 50 to 60 kmph, I saw a kid was picking up a pebble from the side of the road about 200 meters ahead of me, though I did not see his target I pictured what could possibly happen, the boy might hit a dog or cat and that animal would run across the road and possibly collide with my bike. I did not slow my bike down but being alerted I locked my elbows to prevent any sudden thrust that could disrupt my balance. And it happened exactly what I thought ... A dog running madly in its full pace hit my front wheel... thank god I was able to prevent that impact and did not lose my balance because I speculated the incident beforehand. Ride carefully, Respect other bikers on the street. God bless.
I bought same bike and same color and it's very comfortable ! and I love it so much.
@@salimmalek2724 how's ur experience bro what milege u r getting, n have u faced any issues with this bike?
I love this bike
@@somnathmajhi2919 how's ur experience with this bike bro??
The review seems biased.
I have ridden Yamaha for more than an year and there are no vibrations at even 7000 rpm. In case of engine refinement Yamaha is still at the top compared to TV's. But I do believe tvs has come close and is going strong.
Biased review. In this video he has mentioned FZ has vibrations around 6500 rpm. This is not right.
It does feels biased.... I own fsz v3 just 3months old, even my friend who has apache 200 loves fz over his.....
Yes bro, this review is in the favour of 4v.. I've seen nearly 100+ reviews and videos related to fzs V3 and I'm getting it after 3 days 😍😍
Lots of reviewer said that Yamaha has better engine refinement...
First with Ntorq and now with Apache ,what a comeback TVS 😍
Yes boss
Definetly mahn
FZS is not as bad as u say!!! I own an fzs v2 and I am happy with it
V2 is good but v3 is not as good as V2 dude.. look the sepc and fit and finish of v3 and compare with V2 . U will know
@@TheZeab v3 also very good bike take test ride bro
I am going to buy a second hand bike in good condition what say should I buy FZ s V2 or v3 and which version is better plz help me
@@Zuhairr. v2 any day
@@abhishekdhibar9641 hmm if u own can u give a review on it after years also it performs well ?
Or should I go with v3 and which version is better V2 or V3
I own Apache 160 4v bs6
I absolutely agree with statement of "low confidence on cornering"
ABS of Apache is extremely efficient
It saved me almost from a life threat
Thank you TVS😘
May God bless you always
@@atripathim thankyou brother
Bro how is it against fzV-3 and how is service of TVS?
Same to me also
Kids buy Pulsar
Man buy Apache
LEGENDS buy Yamaha FZS
Crct
And ultra legends buy bullet
Exactly..
Ultra legends use dominar
Kings buy pulser ❤️
TVS is doing better job than all the other brands in Indian market.
@Citizen Kolar Are you talking about the new Apache160 4v Fi or the older Apaches?
Ya... No. 1 in marketing it's products....
@Citizen Kolar lol I own Ntorq and it has none of the issues as you mentioned here. I actually couldn't believe how TVS could make such a perfect vehicle .
@Citizen Kolar
just listen him from here 2:18 😄
Lol
I have been hearing good reviews about the new Apache 160 4V from most of the reviewers. Is there something fishy; as some are saying here?
In Indian roads with such heavy traffic, no one can constantly commute in speeds above even 50kmph, so engine refinement and mileage is what an middle class indian is all concerned about.
Which bike you prefer man i also concern to milage factors
Bajaj platinum is give good milage
Tvs XL comfort will give comfort
I just love Yamaha Fzs V3
FZ V3 👌👌❤️
Ya bro red colour 💞
Waste bike bro
Japanese 🙄😑💩
No disrespect.
But, for a moment.
I thought my playback speed is on 0.75 or 0.5 & I went to check it out & it's on Normal.
I watched the whole video on 1.5x and didn't even realise
Like a slow motion replay..
Yes the videos feels slow tbh
Now I am playing this video on 1.25
I got a FZS v3 today.. it's one damn machine to drive and enjoy the road..👍
Mileage kitna mil rha h bro city mein
Mileage 40-55 depends how you ride
I just got FZS - FI 1 week earlier..
Bike is Superb!!!
Looks are stunning
Cornering are good
Braking is smooth
Handling is easy in traffic.
Headlights should be more bright.
Overall great bike.
I took in 1.17L on road price mumbai.
Go for it !!!😊
If you need instant pickup! Go for 4V, but if your priority is not high acceleration then go for fzs... I love fzs just because of comfort, handeling, cornering, and the most important after sell service
Proud owner of a RTR 200...RTR 160 4v is another thriller from TVS too
Same here bro i also have rtr 200 and i think 160 4v is also a thriller
And don't forget rr310 bro that beast....... love TVS from Nepal
Me too
Rtr200 abs with carburetor model onroad price??
Yes RTR 160 is great bike..but the service provided by TVS really worst
Bro no need of worrying about it as Rtr1604v, rtr2004v, ntorq, rr310 has better service than other tvs bikes it's order from tvs.
@@aviationkerala2043 their service is by far the worst after Royal Enfield.
@@md8uniya684 bro it's done by human. May be in your place they may be not good. But in Kerala worst service is in Honda. Tvs I am. Doing in my relative tvs showroom and I had also seen how they do for other bikes they are doing good. Honda has more cheating in service.
@@aviationkerala2043 I agree with u bro. In my opinion Yamaha and bajaj doing well. Have u heard about a guy who got pissed by TVS service burnt his new TVS bike in front of TVS showroom in chennai. I took the average. My friends are working in tvs and bajaj as service guys, they told me bajaj will often give training to their service teams. Even Royal Enfield service teams sucks. Considering the price point they are the worst.
@@md8uniya684 bro all are trained in every tvs showroom 2 or 3 will be trained from tvs bangloure and bro all are human some are lazy that's what make bad service I use to service in my relative showroom and I had also seen how good they service all bikes. Bro don't say about Bajaj I know some showroom they won't even change oil and say its changed also. Fooled one by saying his radiator fan is not running its complaint but all know that fan will only turn on when engine gets heated. Br can you say Bajaj or tvs last longer. With showroom service in our state Bajaj falis to last for long and most of all sell Bajaj bikes bcz of engine getting bad. And losing interest in bikes. Enfield there are some with bad and good service it depend on mechanic bro I can say to you tvs has best mechanic in India as they are best for mechanic in India. In our place I know one mechanic who is trained in tvs and runs his own work shop. Who works on bikes above 150cc..
Apache's styling looks old school compared to FZ-s, even in that tamed matte black of FZ
Thanks for the review ..... These reviews help me regain my love for my 6 years old FZS V1 - the one true lord of the streets. Still.
That same bike if relaunched like the Honda unicorn 150 would sell like hot cakes
@@siddarthsiddhu3406 true .... ride quality of the Unicorn is smooth as butter .... But the looks are dull.
@@AnalogBuddy
Rather works well for a lesser price and gives some clean old school clean and neat design rather than these quirky modern design which to my liking is a bit of overdose for these small bikes with puny output..
I even feel the older FZ is a better handler and had some character which the newer versions lack..
The FZ is becoming uglier over each iteration..
The first gen fz16 with the metal pipe grabrail design is a gem that will be missed as years passby..
10 years from now we'll have an uglier character less commuter which would look like a straight outta fancy dress competition..
@@siddarthsiddhu3406 very true .... All the new bikes from all the manufactures are copying the same design characters that the old FZ had brought to India with naked looks, bulky fuel tank & a wide rear tire.
BTW Unicorn is not old school - it looks downright ugly. It doesn't carry any design benchmarks.
Most of the FZ talks are not right. I am a FZ owner, somehow I felt like this is a promotional video of TVS. As the tags are leading to Apache, so this video is planned to promote TVS.
Absolutely right bro
You are right bro
Ever ride 160 4v?
As a yamaha fan, i don't think he said anything wrong. I was planning to buy r15 but heard of many material quality issues. Apache 160 4v has great quality, far far better than gixxer and fz. Surprisingly, it's again the 4v which has better engine. I have owned tvs bikes and they performs very well in long term
Haha open your eyse Buddy the so called Yamaha Quality is gone dnt be a blind butt hurt fan boy
Pls watch it with 1.25x ! You'll realize how slow he is🤨
😂🤣
True..
Yamaha is excellent on breaking system
I am from bangladesh...and your videos are very helpful for buying bike....and i love apache rtr 160 4v
I have bought fzs v3 and i am very much satisfied with it. The thing i like most in this bike is it's looks. It looks much bigger bike in terms of looks especially from the from and the engine reliability of yamaha is unmatched. I have used fazer v1 for 7 years and its engine was so smooth even after 46000kms. That feel i have never experienced in other brands like bajaj tvs and even in suzuki.
Bro I'm also booking this bike very soon😍😍 I hope ur experience with ur fz is awesome please share details of ur experience with ur fz
@@akulchadha2069 bro if you want top speed and raw power this bike is not for you. Its mid range is nice it will be a very good city bike. Comfortable highway crusing speed is 85-90 kmph above that it feels bit stressed. I have achieved 113 on highway without any problem. But engine refinement is top notch. Build quality is bit poor plastic pannels are bit flimsy but you have to live with that in order to have good looks. I live in mountains so top speed is bot my priority cause there are no such roads here. It will surely make you feel like you are riding a 200-250 cc bike in terms of looks.
@@tarun_M1710 thanks bro and my priority is not top speed I just need a bike for city commuting and some highway rides and a pocket friendly bike, I hope it can give milege of 45+ in city
@@akulchadha2069 bro i had used this bike in cities for a month and it gave me around 42-43 kmpl and my riding style is not mileage friendly. You can definitely expect around 45 kmpl and Even more if you ride properly.
@@tarun_M1710 thanks bro I'll book this bike tomorrow itself
people will still buy the yamaha , its got good resale value , durable engine , and most people fall for the brand name .
wtf do you mean by resale value? Then why the fk do you need to buy , if you are concerned about selling it later.
Exactly bro., this guy is biased or paid. I'm not sure. None of my friends suggested TVS when I was in confusion. Finally bought FZ v3. Loving it.
Anil Ch which bike do u suggest bro?...please help me
@@AnilChTechChannel I bought FZ V3 bs4 last year. It's very comfortable for both rider and pillion, has good mileage, upright riding posture, soft suspension, braking is excellent with abs.
@@AnilChTechChannel bro plz tell about your experience with fzsv3 bs6 plz .🙏
I don’t know why.. but I found FZS v3 better performing than Apache 160 4v. Not being biased here but ride comfort was also better than Apache. Honestly, guys if the ride quality is not comfortable then it’s not going to be a good ride, having said that I dint find apache ride that good for long rides, speed is not everything. So I am going for yamaha. Just an advise ride both the bikes and compare before you buy.
Riding Fz-S v3.0 from last One year, FZ-s never Compromises on riding Comfort and Braking is Awesome in the Segment.
Yamaha Engine and Brakes are always the Best.
Getting milage of 52Kmpl in City
Mileage kitna de raha hai
@@dingarmahananda4858 42-48 in city and 52+ on highways
@@kiranpropertieshyd apache 4v ya yamha fzs v3 batter for mileage
@@dingarmahananda4858 in my view For family and city daily, mileage FZs will be better.
For racing style, speed and power Apache is best, but You have to test drive and compare both the models which you like the most.
@@kiranpropertieshyd tq dear
Apache is a beast, no doubt about that, but you missed the point brother. New FZ is for people who need supreme comfort in riding and that seat is a superb one, complimented by that raise handle bar. So you can't say that it cannot be recommended, depends totally on customer.
Just killed yamaha
Ur APACHE 160 😍
The so called yamaha build quality have gone nowadays. This one, R15 v3, FZ 25 all have mediocre build quality.
Realli awaited comparison
Ya cost cutting is evident in yamaha nowadays..
Owning FZ25 from past 2.5 years .. no complaints at all on build quality.
The problem with zig wheels and CarDekho is that they have lot of reviewer and because of that subscribers are not connecting with channel like we do with others.. Alway loves the reviews from this channel as they give no nonsense review.. But please stick to hue 1 2 reviewer..
FZS is amazing..
I don't know how TVS managed to create such a perfect machine where no other manufacturer is able to defeat it.
Fz v3 superb then Apache
This was a very thorough comparison and i congratulate Zigwheeles for making one. Good Work guys. Double Thumbs up.
I still own a 2009 FZ16 and all that you have stated about its downgraded since my bikes, is 100% true. In fact, The FZ-S which was launched a year later to mine had Heel guards near the footpegs made out of some metal that quite instantly corroded. On my FZ16, they are made of Aluminium. When i saw this on my friend's bike i got to know that Yamaha was cutting corners. And its been downhill since those days.
And my other friend who had got the 2010 160RTR regretted his decision because the engine was not that refined and the gear shifts was not as slick as FZ16. If todays RTR's gear shifts are better than FZ's then I should say that the 160 RTR has come a long way since then. The fact that it has a DOHC header is simply amazing.
I was really looking forward to upgrade to a 250cc Yamaha but FZ25 is just a FZ16 with a 250cc engine. Not worth the upgrade. My eyes were lit-up when i saw the Suzuki Gixxer 250. Its literally everything i want in a 250cc bike. Minus a Slipper Clutch. Plz do review it asap.
Looks like TVS has sponsored this vid.. there must be at least few thing good in Yamaha, right ? There sales number are ~18k per month while TVS doesn't provide separate sales number for rtr160 and release overall sales number for all 7-8 Apaches combined and that is 38k.
True
Without a doubt, it's completely paid video. I can bet on it.
The 1st gen of Fz was far far better and cool then this polio patient(v3).....they just made the bike fucked up....lot of muscles but the power is not even as expected...🤔🙄
True bro
A proud owner of Tvs Apache RtR 160 for 13 years... I have no mind to change it to other bcoz of ride and handling also with good mileage of 55kmpl in city and around 60+kmpl on high way...
How is the service experience?
Me and my friend went on a road trip with fzs v3 and rtr160. I can clearly see the diff in pickup, rtr is too good in this. But, for choosing the bike height of the rider matters. For the one's with large limbs Fzs is best for comfortable riding. Speed, acceleration, breaking and milege comes next.
Rtr 160 4V is the king of 160cc.drove the suzuki 2019 lacks refinement of 4V
Gixxer is the best of the segment. Can't wait for the comparisons!
Gixxer is a better handler but for the rest of the other aspects the Apache wins IMO
After test riding both, bought the the fz-v3 two months back. Didn't like the dual tone colors of apache and seating position. Also the Yamaha showroom guys were 1000% better than TVS.
Story time:
Went to a TVS showroom in bengaluru and they provided a test drive vehicle that did not start LOL. Then somehow they managed to do it after i waited 30 minutes. To put salt in the wound it just randomly turned off just after i went 100 meters. I asked for a better bike and i was told that is enough and i can buy if i want or go away(didnt tell me to go away straight up but behavior was like that). The fact that they can do this means they must be selling Apache RTRs like hot cakes.
Extremely happy with my FZ V3. Lot of youtube videos show max top speed 115-118 kmph. After first service, today i did 123-124.
Surely Apache must be better, because reviewers know what they are talking about. But not a single time i thought i should have bought apache rtr and m missing xyz. FYI, i road my colleague's rtr for around 20 kms, didn't feel any thing was better except one thing i.e. at very high revs brake pedals didnt vibrate like in my fz.
Bro let me say that speed shown on your fz won't be crrt as it's even powerless bike than rc125, and old rtr160, gixxer. I use to gor for touring one of my friend had brought fz v3 he never test ride any other and directly brought it what Yamaha sales man told to him was rtr160 4v is bad bike powerless etc.. Bro fz is good for those who never want speed. At its max rpm is 10k. And with racing cdi it can do 130 v2. For fi nothing is available. Rtr160 old model with racing cdi can do 153kmph..i doing know what new one can do.
What meilage u getting?
Bro if in fz it shows 120 and do same 120 in rtr you can see rtr just overtaking. I can say 100% fz can't even dream of 120 kmph speed.
Are the mileage figures genuine?? How can a 4v engine with a heavier weight give a better fuel economy than a 2v engine carrying a lighter weight? Plzz explain how has tvs managed this!!
Bro I had got 75 kmpl in rtr160 4v as I checked it on highway at 60-70 kmph.. Even tvs didn't believed and they tried it with fuel tank off where it goes near 2 km.
@@aviationkerala2043 according to u... What are the mileage figures for the city? Looking at other mileage reviews people are getting about 40-45 kmpl...
@@lakshyatayal542 I use to change carb setting according to my use. Now iam using power not milage still iam getting around 50 kmpl before in highway I got 75 kmpl with milage setting in traffic I think it's about 50+. Sure Iam using nitrogen and premium petrol. With proper service and I use to Rev high only after engine runs around 10 km..
@@aviationkerala2043 they installed engine of TVs radeon in ur bike I guess
@@AnkitKushwaha-tg2ru 🤣🤣. Tvs showroom mechanic told it's my luck getting these much milage. But I used it roughly atill 9k km.. 😂 After 10 k I started getting these much milage.
The build quality is really not up to the mark in Yamaha, my r15 v3's fairings near the backlight started to come off, while my brother's r15 v2 is still intact, even though the v2 has handled a lot of rough usage..
Do you recommend r15? I am planning to buy matte black version
Bro lookwise nd performancewise it is superb,but u will have to give special care to it..nd also my advice would be to don't go tripling on it nd don't share ur bike too much..
Because it can ruin it.....
I repeat bro.. it needs special care ..
Ok. I have owned rtr 180 and i am using classic 350. I haven't faced a single issue in those bikes. Do you think r15 is a good upgrade? I have heard a lot about new yamaha bike poor body quality which also worries. At the same time, i have also heard that tvs offers better material quality. But i am a fan of yamaha's engines. I just don't want a reliable engine, but also a well build body.
@@Himanshusingh-lv1od bro there are certain body quality issues but they aren't much of an issue if u take care of ur bike...u can go for it..some of my friends who took good care of their r15s still have it in good condition.
But i wanna ask one more thing whats ur average commuting distance?
On a crowded metropolitan city with long traffic jams, all a rider needs is comfort to commute long distances daily which the Fz is known for. On crowded Indian streets brakes are a big deal and Fz again excels in that segment. What's the use of a powerful engine in roads you can barely go above 60. Indian rider need comfort and a good braking system rather than a high powered machine with a bad braking system. Reason why sales of fz is faar greater than TVS.
So you are buying bike just to ride in traffic?😂
Tvs Apache 160 4v King of 160cc Segment no one can beat this bike
R15 man better bike than tvs apache R15 always king of the this segment
Brother Price Difference bhi to h dono bike me uss hisab se Apache much better h
Main Apache rtr 160 4v hp & Yamaha fzs v3 2021 model m confuse hu. Mera height 5 ft 8 inches hai, mujhe office (Daily 42 km approx) aur often touring k liye bike chahiye. Mera preferences kuch iss tarah hai ki
1. Mujhe mileage acha chahiye.
2. Purchase reliability for long period (Engine, other spare parts).
3. Stability and comfort.
4. Decent power for city as well as highway.
Please suggest me best bike amongst these two.
But Yamaha is a beast!
What has happened to Yamaha India...i guess it is the great ease of doing business here maybe...😂
Rtr 160 4v always King
Thank you so much for the timely review bro. I was really in a confusion to choose between these 2. Once again thanks for the detailed review.
Now what is your choice of buying...
So what have you concluded
@@arnavsingh4314 Apache 1604V red color bro
@@arnavsingh4314 it's been 1 month now. Keeping a mileage part aside its a beast. Mileage is between 35 to 38kmpl.
@@arunbabu7261 why not gixxer 2019?
I wanted to swap Yamaha engine with tvs Pros Comforts Yamaha. Engine tvs
Proud to be a Owner of Tvs Apache 160 4v
Really bro I have to great bike best throttle response 🙋🙋
Compare fz v3 Vs 160 4 v Vs gixxer 155 2019 which is overall good bike plz tell me bro...
Apache any day, better looker more powerful💪😎
You can't get the performance of an RTR in any bikes other than Apache 160 4v in this segment. FZ-S will start crying after 80 kmph speed. Yamaha being a racing company, it's a shame that they have provided such an underpowered machine in FZ-S. If you compare fz with 160 4v, fz is priced more for a 2 valve air-cooled engine, where as Apache comes with 4 valve oil-cooled engine. TVS, being an Indian company have provided best quality products in their bike. Yamaha charges for each n every accessory and will provide with very cheap products. Compare mudguard of Apache with FZ-S, you will get to know.
Which is best at per value,mileage and engine honda hornet 160or tvs apache 160 4v
I am owner of Fzs v3.0...and satisfied with performance and mileage...👍Apache is good bike but not giving that much mileage mentioned in your video👎and the tyre size is smaller than Fzs...
Bro pls describe the bike. I want to buy this month. An owners review will be very good help
Bhai kitna mileage hai bike ka
😂😂😂u dont own apache
Why does a slow ass bike need such huge tyre ?😂😂
Wider tyre doesn't make bike faster and mileage is depend on how much power you use on the bike you will get that amount mileage.
Proud RTR owner hit likes.
dai ho kto
TVS produces the best quality machines. They are just obsessed with providing u the best machine in the segment. ZIG WHEELS is not a small brand to give biased review for some mere bribe.
And Vibrations? There are NO vibrations and the engine refinement is TOP CLASS. Yes, earlier apaches had vibrations for sure but not this one.
I test rode both, and I really liked Apache and immediately booked for FI variant. Love RTR
Which one is best TVS Apache RTR 160 4v (carb version) or fi version
I can race a tvs and beat it.. on a highway on mileage, race and brakes 💯 yess brakes are important. And the curve handling due to broad tyres is unmatchable in FZ ! Yes yamaha
Hi
I want to buy a 200c bike. I was planning to buy apache 200 bs6 fi engine.
I want to know is this my best decision. I need a good milenge, best engine and a good performance with safety.
Kindly please suggest
Thinking of buying apache rtr 4v bs6 version in 2020☺️
I have fz 2.0 bs3 and 3.0 bs6 and faith on yamaha had pulsar earlier but yamaha will be Yamaha which made me to buy it for second time.
Whatever 1 king always Apache♥️
Apache better than yamaha???🤣🤣🤣where did you get that weed bro??
Proud to be owner of Apache RTR 1604v FI🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This bike proves its racing capability on top gear, wow what a pleasent engine noise that can be heard througout the day!!proud owner of 160 4V
@Easwaran Easwaran Any bike with proper maintenence and service works great, RTR is no exception.
Need to buy a bike for highway bike rides fun rides with a milege 45+,confused between fzs or rtr160,which one do u suggest??
For Highways RTR is better.
Proud owner of 1604v rtr
@Easwaran Easwaran i hve meet to an owner of tvs apache 160...he owns bike frm past 11 yrs...he said that its all about maintaining it...and still he gets an average of fuel frm 38 to 40kmpl.
Mt-15 is king of 150-160cc segment
19ps power and 48-50 mileage 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah no price matters too
@@sathya5057 when u get looks to die for it doesn't.
How about maintenance cost
Back then untill 2014 "Haa you're gonna buy FZ?? Well you must be an owner of Fuel station aren't you??" Now things have been reversed.... From aggressive inefficient power full bad guy to more efficient low powered Gentle men type FZ lost it's Charm....
RTR 160 4V... THAT SMOOTHNESS u get when u ride at 100 and above 😍😍😍😍
Zig wheels u are doing really great.....
We get lot of informations from Ur videos.. Thank you.!..😍..
Comparing to the price and other segments , RTR160 4v is better.
TVS is gonna dominate the two wheeler market 10yrs from now, mark my words.
Just need to know differnce between apcahe carb & fuel injection.. confusing which to buy??
Proud to be the owner of 160 4v abs
Am an fzs dark knight owner and chennai city commuter for 4 months...my opinion...fzs is a master manipulator...watch closely...he targeted bike foundation like breaks, tyre and torque to power ratio...so you have absolute control and confidence over bike in any situation...so you are the lord of streets...even in speedy ride and speedy cornering and cuts, you have confidence and dont have fear compared to other 150 cc....so what is use of riding so fast with fear of progressive breaking and less cornering ability..if rtr is beast, fzs is lucifer..... Reputed badass brand....i love yamaha....
I want to bought one bike Apache rtr1604vor fzv3 or hornet which one is best in all segments plse tell me
Fz v3 are Apache 160 4v pls suggest me which one is best
Smoother engine n design makes fz to attract more people
Hey bro u do a very good comparison
I watched video twice ...
TVS should have 2 segments. 1 comfort with raised handlebars and footed position and another for sporty style. I would pick Yamaha Fz for comfort. Those who don't do out of city highway should prefer comfort over sporty style and maybe even better engine.
TVs is built well, almost international standards. You only realise the Indian touch when you attend the service station. The service stations needs to raise their standards and work professionally
Pls compare Apache with Hornet ; which is best for initial torque
I have question? What about the quality in long run will tvs able match the quality of engine Yamaha provide? Price is justified here. I ride bike every day more than 100km so in this case TVs bajaj can't able match the quality handling what these Japanese provid
I am confused between Carburetor version and EFI version of TVS Apache 160 4V. Showroom guys says that buy Carburetor one because it's easy to solve problems related to this engine as compared to EFI engine. Please guide me in this.
I see many many users straight away but Fz but not Apache. I see many FZs on road but not Apache.
So your reviews going to cost someone who believes you’re reviews were honest.
I am the owner of Apache RTR 160 4v since 2018.. best refined engine.. throttle sound is amazing.. I think this bike is best in 160 cc segments when compared to other brands..
Bro recently I brought Apache 1604v it's not giving good mileage 35 km per litre what should I do for good mileage I have completed first service which engine oil should I use for this bike pls suggest me
@@kites146 bro.. bfre first service ma bike gives 42kmpl and aftr first service gives only around 39 to 40 only.. after complete second service beast gives 45 around... Petrol price around 75rs that time I put petrol for 100rs it gives 62 to 64 kms.. so don't worry.. don't ride high speed upto 3000 kms.. 45-50km speed is good for first two services.. if any emergency be ride at 70-80kmph is okay..
Depend upon maintained owner fz v3 is very good motorcycle.
I realised most part of the review happened just near to my home..
Baner Road , Pune ♥️♥️
Are you a Mallu?
Fz wasn't even an option, Gixxer is master of all.
Is there any scope of handle raiser in Apache 160 4V?
I own FZ v1. It is the only good FZ. All the predecessors are jokes.
My next bike will be RTR 4V🤗
What a Video Quality and Scenes.. That make u More Interesting.. Really bro.. Ur AWESOME 😎😎😎
I ride my FZ-S at 80 to 90 kmph regularly at night with confidence... And you say light through is not upto the mark!!???
No wonder the review felt biased
I want confuse between RTR 160 4v (new) vs FZs v3... which is better build
if you are like a street zig zag driver you should go with fz as its handling is better it has better wider tyres.
Apache excels in every other things. pickup, speed and everything. apache beats fz I terms of engine.
Apache RTR 4v carburettor double disk version 0-60 hit 3.8 sec in Bangladesh... Only problem in RTR 4v is low mileage 32km.. I hope when FI version comes it will give better mileage...
There are Yamaha's R15 and MT15 (apart from pricing) and FZ25 which are brilliant bikes and there are FZ, FZ-S and Fazer which are dumb as hell I don't know what is up with Yamaha India...
😂 true that
U have to consider that those are global models bro and fz fazer are not so
@@manoja538 FZ 25 is not a global model, but it's one hell of a machine
@@adithyagaonkar5424 srry bro only r15 v3 with its segment can say a better bike fz, fz25 are powerless bike in its segment and r15 v3 price comes with rs200, ns200 etc.. Even closer to dominor
@@aviationkerala2043 but for the price FZ25 is a great machine and although it's power is not much but it's lightweight makes it a great bike it's much lighter than other bikes...
Very comprehensive and unbiased comparison. In every review I have seen that the Apache is severely lacking in braking power. Why TVS hasn't done anything about it. Without adequate braking what's the point having such a nice bike. I hope TVS addresses this issue and along with it an full led headlight with good light spread will take Apache to close to perfection. Nice work. Keep it up. Cheers...
Jr Adil, you just nail and bring in the youthness to the video, which PD n team fails too. The end was, something I was waiting for. Gixxer comparo...I am waiting!!
Which one is best suspension .. without back pain