Joel Embiid did that and got hurt later, he chose the games in which he could score more, so the media started to root harder for him. He wasn't going to make the minimum games played last year before the injury, with something like 60% of the games left, he only had like 4 games to miss.
The fact that Tim Ducan, Dirk, Steph, and KD beat prime LBJ in the NBA Championship totally disqualifies him from the GOAT conversation all together. LBJ stat chasing via longevity is like saying Cal Ripken is better than Derek Jeter.
@@NateWilliams-j4r he also beat everyone here tho except Dirk……actually KD and Steph teamed up to beat Bron. I know basic basketball logic doesn’t apply to LeBron haters but at least you can try to be objective. You didn’t even try old man.
@@michaelhowell6448 I can dig it. If Lebron feels he’s the goat though why can’t he say it. I’m confused 🤔 he has a hell of a case. Didn’t I just tell you 2 of the players mentioned teamed up together?
Who's the better in game dunker MJ or Dominique 🤔 that's a good one. But who has the most bodies in game 🤔 MJ got a lot of center's/power forward on his body count. But Dominique was cold he's another one that would dominate today he was more than a dunker. Respect great video
Our generation is not the same as this one. When you change the idea of greatness you can make anyone great. If James stayed with Cleveland I would have more respect. If Jordan chose to play with a few of the best every other year, he wouldn’t have ever lost. Do you know how hard it is to be that one guy? James isn’t. That’s why he bounced around, it’s too heavy.
“The Air up there” has some of the best dunks I’ve ever seen. Ever. The 720… sheesh. To this day, I wish the NBA would’ve let Skip to my Lou, go off. Lol. But you stated it and showed it, and I remember how the league made Skip always be Rafer Alston… there were announcers who in game would say how the NBA wanted to keep the “playground” influence out of the game. Sidenote, but relevant… I’ve been watching the game since 75-76… and I was a young boy, excited to see two players I’d heard about…. Pistol L Pete and Dr. J…. The reason? Because those guys resonated in the “hood”… interesting enough, the NBA wasn’t keen on showcasing Pistol, although he was white, and I can recall announcers openly criticizing his “play ground” game. Also understand, that dunking was rare, especially in game. Usually it was just basic dunks, although I can remember Connie Hawkins, even late in his career doing some “great for the time” things while dunking, it was Dr. J, who by word of mouth~ unless you lived in NY and saw him at the Rucker…. or tapped in enough to catch him in the ABA… and for context, TV reception was TERRIBLE… lol.. But Dr. J was an urban legend even before he became the first “face of the league “ I can remember… Kareem was winning MVP’s and it was some very good players. But Dr. J had all the endorsements… His game was marketed by the league… to my memory, he was the first guy who was so well known outside of basketball… and also for context in the 70’s Basketball was undercover known as “the Black man’s game” and fans weren’t filling arenas and basketball was probably fourth on the totem pole of athletic popularity in the 70’s behind football, Baseball, and boxing, honestly College basketball may have been more popular. It was definitely broadcast more. In the early 80’s… other kids were impressed that I’d know all the starting five for the whole NBA and even what college they went too, now this is before EA Live, or 2K, well before any basketball video game. With the exception of Dr J vs Larry Bird on the Commodore 64. Damn I’m old. But yeah… it was because college basketball was shown far more than the NBA, and I was fortunate to live in ACC country with a local team, which all the games were broadcast locally even back then. My point to this story, Dr J… game was never the same once he got to the NBA, my pops used to say the NBA was holding him back, and it was a shame because fans never got to see the real Dr J… I was too young to understand that context. But looking back… now I can see he was right. and the fans apparently didn’t want that type of game in the NBA… Pistol Pete. Had an influence in the game that most don’t understand… he transcend race and his teaching skills tutorial was highly influential, and his creativity influenced how young generation viewed ball handling, and Isiah came later. But it was Pete initially that gave that spark… before Pete, guards didn’t play with flair, like Pete.. they just didn’t. Tiny Archibald was nice nice. But not flashy. World B Free could JUMP JUMP but he was basic.. David Thompson, was D Wade ish… but with a high vertical. Now his dunks were power… Dr Dunkenstein. Darrell Griffith played in Utah, injuries and Jerry Sloan toned his game down. SMH. He had that flair as well. My point. Coaches and fans viewed that type of play as “Ninja Ball, Globetrotter, showboat, and wanted none of that… TBH outside of his passing Magic didn’t play flashy, offensively his game was boring and ugly, unless he was in transition… funny looking jump shot 😂😂😂 We all know about what happened with Iverson and Alston… The NBA didn’t want that type of play in the games. Up until the recent rule changes … freedom of movement and the zero step gather step… I was fine with the ball handling rules. Allowing the players to do a little extra, (Jamaal Crawford) but not to excessive (everyone in this era) and Pistol was the first that did it and kept going… even when the league hated it and didn’t support it… Now it’s the game… it’s gone to far in the other direction… it’s more playground pickup, skill wise when it comes to ball handling… It’s not “real” basketball… rather it’s incomplete basketball…
The ratings tell you everything. Nobody watches this trash now. The best basketball ever played was 80s and 90s I'm not saying it the ratings are saying it.
Well said. I’m a Spurs fan used to be a Lebron fan his first stint in Cleveland until the Decision we wanted to see him vs Melo, Wade, or Bosh to see who’s better that’s what competition is about losing until you find a way to win.
It's not only in today's Mary Kay Massengill DNA NBA. Have you been to your local rec renter or park lately? These Monistat cats are all about the stack. They prefer it extremely easy. They're petrified of a little adversity. It looks like Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals. Only thing missing is confetti buckets. It was total opposite when I was growing up. I was one of the best street-ballers in my city and befriended another of the city's best street-ballers - and we never wanted to play on same team. Not only cause it be unfair if playing against inferior competition but we always wanted to beat each other. I'm 55 yrs old now and have two herniated discs and Greg Oden knees but I still go out there and ball when my body feels decent. I've been dubbed Baby Shaq for the last decade or so cause I stay in the paint and dominate. Today's Vagisil heads complain that I play too physical in the post and claim that's why they can't stop me with my back to the bucket. But the real reason they can't check me is cause my footwork is impeccable, I have a McHale-like jump-hook and I can finish with either hand on either side of the backboard. And some idiots claim us 80s/90s cats didn't have skills!
What is so crazy to me about the NBA players who don't want to be in the dunk contest, is that they love to showboat their Dunks in the games/ But don't want to showcase how good of a dunker they really are in the real dunk competition. How to get them to want to be in it: The NBA can ask for the top 5 greatest dunker to be the Judges, Like Dr. jay, MJ, Dominique, Vince, Spud, because players like to showboat in front of the best, since it's only annually contest, have a larger fancier Trophy add with a crystal glass crown on top basketball hoop with gold engrave with a Diamond looking crystal stone on the bottom of the shining wood and hype it up by using famous people like, Kevin hart and Travis Kelce, and a few others. And ask Mj to Hand it out the Trophy.
I have to agree with Nique. To many Stacy Patton’s in the Association. The 3 Point Contest has overshadowed the Gatorade Dunk Contest. I have thoughts. The Dunk Contest have to be on the All Star team. The prize should be 5 Million. A one year shoe deal as the Dunk Champion and commercial. Nique is one of the best dunkers but what his memorable dunks and on who. I’ve got Dr. J., Jordan, 1/2 Man, 1/2 Amazing and The Rain Man as some of the greatest.
Dominique was right they don't complete, they are truly entertaining and not competing to be their best and to put the other team to shame to show who is dominant, entertainment that's all!
I think the great players back then stood out more vs todays players who are more evenly matched. With that said the old school was more hardcore in all ways period.
He is right look at boxing its the same thing all the boxer dont want go fight each other all the care about is keeping the 0 oh i am 19 and 0 but who you fought ,man i miss the 90s
As a long time lakers fan since the early 90s. Kobe never forced shaq to leave. He didn't mind shaq leaving, but shaq demanded the trade because phil was fired. Also, kobe was never a sidekick to shaq. During the western conference playoffs, kobe normally led the Lakers in ppg. While shaq wasn't necessarily killing the west bigs, but holding his own, kobe was killing his matchups with dominant wing defenders. Kobe also was always the closer. Especially late game fts. Yall, who didn't watch, please stop saying saq carried or kobe was the sidekick. Also, no one was saying back then that kobe was being carried. We all were already doing the Kobe vs. Mj comparisons because all we had to do was watch kobe play to see how good he was. Shaq didn't win before Kobe. Kobes rookie year had fans cheering and begging for him to play. We knew kobe was the next great during his rookie year. Even his 2nd year, while not starting, was voted as an all-star starter. Because we SAW him play, so we already KNEW. Most of us real, not casuals knew, that if kobe like iverson and vince had his own team, he'd avg well over 30 ppg. He also avg 30 along with shaq 1 or 2 seasons. People just dont understand how crazy and good u had to be to do that with a Shaq get his 20 shots in the 90s. I could care less kobe had Shaq. That doesn't put him below any other player. Its like saying that mj had Shaq. we'll put kobe ahead because kobe won with pippen. If we're honest about skill, kobe was more skilled than mj offensively, mj might have been slightly better defensively. However, kobe played against better and more athletic defenders in the toughest scoring era. Lebron isn't a 2-way player, and in 2016, without his roids during the 1st 20 games declined.
"the air up there" was the guy from and 1. Kenny Smith said in one dunk contest that there's a guy in the G League that can do a 720 (the air up there) but the league wouldn't give him he props. Yes he made it to the G League but my issue is (may come off as racist) with all the athletic men in basketball the league passes on a black man that has done something not even attempted by anyone else but accepts Mat. Also 2k passes on black men for dunk animations (ok fine) but call this white guy one of the greatest dunkers ever is ridiculous.
Wilkins told the truth about everything he said these players today in the nba is very soft they want everything handed to them and they really do not want to compete at nothing .
I was surprised a guy like JA Morant refused to get in the dunk contest or someone like Catlin Clark who refuses to get in the 3 point contest and she supposed to be the Steph Curry of the women's league.
And Kobe played in a tough western conference facing the teams like Spurs, Suns, Nuggets, Jazz, Rockets, Memphis, Mavs etc. to get to the playoffs, finals and winning it all. While LBJ were facing 38-44, 40-42 teams in the east.😂😂😂
If Mac McClung after winning his 2nd Dunk Contest would have said "You know, I'm the best dunker in the NBA, i just won for a 2nd time, i announce myself as the best dunker in the NBA! There's nothing to argue outside the court! I just won for a 2nd time!" One of two things would happen. Either other great dunkers would sign for the Slam Dunk Contest for next year, or he would be forced to forfeit by the commissioner, because THAT guy has to be protecting the image of every single NBA star all the time, he doesn't like when anything outside of the NBA core of stars makes the "best players" look not as bright as they make them to be, without actually proving their worth, Adam Silver is very very careful of not depreciating the value of any of his players, regardless if he affects the show, the ratings and the public's perception. We have mo competition anymore, everybody gotta watch their mouth and say the other guy is great even if they just shat all over the place.
Really, there is only one way to settle the "who's better debate between Kobe and LeBron. Research every time they went one on one in every single game that they have played and tally up those individual stats for each player. You really cant go by who has more points, who has more rings etc. Because those are in game, team accomplishments with most of those points gained by being guarded by different players at different times. Back in the day, when my friends and i wanted to see who the best player was....we went to the court and played one on one. With Kobe and LeBron, most people are judging who is better when they playing the team game, so yall confusing who the better team player is with who was just better by themselves. I dont have the time to research everytime Kobe and LeBron went one on one and which player got the best of the other player more. To me, thats how this Kobe vs LeBron debate is settled and i am patiently waiting for somebody to do that research. And BTW....they were both in their prime so theres no excuses no matter who comes out on top in this ongoing debate.
I agree with you @mel 💯 💯 Man i like when u critique LeBron and give ur opinion about him and don't say this after that " this nothing against LeBron" or " not taking nothing from LeBron greatness". Man i hate when analysis, sports reporters say this anytime they point out anything LeBron do ..
Dominique (@sportztea) is getting crazy airplay over her comments. She did break it down in one of the best ways I’ve heard it put. But Dominique Wilkins was just as truthful with his comments. These clowns today like to play like the untouchable and better than back in the day and very few impress me as ppl who could size up with players back in the day when they actually played defense, challenging every shot and layup or dunk. To me the blocks were better than certain dunks…watching a ball get thrown into the 10th row or defending a team till the shot clock run out on multiple plays. Stats are for statisticians, it don’t tell you how good Joe Dumars was, or anybody else.
Charles Barkley demanded to be traded to a 53 win Phoenix team, from a 35 win 76ers team in 1992. He left them and went to a 2x championship Rockets team to join Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen both multiple NBA champions. Y’all 🧢🧢🧢🧢
And those guy were 34-35 years old at the very end or I’ll even say out of their prime while bosh and lebron were 26-27 respectively in Miami hitting the peak of their prime tell it like it is don’t tell it how it might be 😂
@@Slyme1big Man cut the crap and the excuses. Clyde Drexler was All NBA in 95, and was 32. Charles Barkley was 29👀when he demanded a trade from the 35-47 Seventy sixers and also was All NBA that season. Scottie Pippen made the All defensive team when he joined Olajuwon and Barkley😂😂You guys have the world’s biggest blind spot. Chris Bosh made 1x All NBA team back in 2007, and he’s the best player on a lottery, but a role player on a championship team. MJ had Rodman a 2x DPOY also who was already a champion and the best rebounder and one of the best defenders of the 90s, now that’s a super team
I'm coming in late. Regarding Dominique and what he said about the dunk competition. Here's my thought: Aren't NBA players employees of the NBA? It's as simple as making them do the dunk competition. If they look like crap doing it, that's on them! They better practice for it if they want to look good, but everyone is REQUIRED to participate in the NBA Dunk Competition! Period. These nba players are employees. I wish I could be a lazy asshple and keep my job! Tell my boss nope, I just don't feel like working today..How long would I keep my job for?
@@AdamsGuitarsAndCases still ain't no way they'll oblige. The AS alone alone shows they're just halfhearted showing bitches in uniforms. They're just there for the tunnel outfits and doesn't care about fans of basketball. Hundreds of millions made them the opposite
I think you’re overlooking that all of the “all star” related events is voluntary, they aren’t getting paid any extra incentive to do the 3pt contest, dunk contest, skills challenge. So you can’t “force” them Now, I agree with your logic as for as implementing what you said for games played! That makes plenty of sense, maybe doc their pay per game for a game missed that’s not Injury related. But all star stuff? Nothing you can do about that UNLESS!!!! You’re in the all star GAME! Then you SHOULD have some extra responsibilities
HERE TO CORRECT MYSELF I SAID DAVID THOMPSON I MEANT TO SAY GEORGE GIRVIN THE ICEMAN THAT'S WHO I MEANT TO HAVE SAID WAS ON THE TEAM WITH JORDAN FOR ONE YEAR
I think Dominique is making a mistake here of taking his mentality as the default mentality of this era players, and that's not the case as we discuss in a previous episode. LeBron James to take an example, he has taken all kind of punishments in the regular season, the playoffs and the finals and he's jumping around left and right calling himself the GOAT like if nothing have happened, I can't see how losing a dunk contest is gonna make any difference. He's just lazy, there's no added bonus (sic) or damn money (sic). Players these days have no shame, I couldn't believe Edwards was talking all that smack in the Olympics right after being humbled in the FIBA world cup. They don't care about the losing, if they don't participate my believe is that it's out of sheer laziness.
@@Mandownsports yeah man, it's sad and it's happening all over the world. The World ain't catching the US, the US is receeding faster rather. I remember how in early 2000's a guy from my college won the Slam Dunk contest for the Spanish pro League ACB. The thing is, my college didn't had anything near a decent basketball team, he infact signed in for the contest as a "popular contender" and he was around my age, like 18/19 yo and my hight 6'2/6'3 at most. Sure, he jumped out of the gym but I was puzzle, like, how on earth is this guy defeating the pros? Sadly, that was all his career as a basketball player, he never played in a professional league. Second that year in the Slam Dunk contest was an American college player named Antonio Granger, from Detroit and played in Boston College, 6'7 215... but couldn't defeat the street guy 🤣 at least Granger made a career after that he went to Turkey and Russia and won Leagues there.
They was the best Dominique hands down was the best dunker in the league pure two foot power dunker vs Mj who was the lord or finesse which was better , well by itself MJ made it look like Art and it came neck to neck best ever , we got Dee brown and kemp doing it after , Spud Webb , Kobe Vince… Lebron was scared after failing in HS
This is why Lebron won't do the dunk contest; because it might reveal his phony lies: close and open to the world. Also LeBron couldn't win rings, so he wanted to chase stats so his argument would be better and his fans would say that it was Michael Jordan who couldn't do this (instead of LeBron can't do what MJ did): so they turned it into MJ had no three, he couldn't pass and he couldn't go left... to make him an all around player like BRON.
this is real, they join each other and are afraid to compete against one another, the first being Le Gm Groat ( goes regulary on another teams) lebron james !!!!
They changed the rules from prison ball to normal physical basketball. Then in this new era they changed it from normal physical basketball to no defense allowed.
A lot of great points being made, but that’s why I say this era is soft & passive , they duck any real challenge in any form of the sport and they spoiled to the point they hardly know the history of the game…. It’s pathetic in many ways , even there “ best “ is pretty much a 6x loser when compared to other champions ijs 🤷🏿♂️
Too afraid to fail is more than just a modern day nba thing it's a current generational thing. So the younger guys are gonna have this mentality as it's sadly part of the culture. 3:23 as a prefix MJ is the only Goat. But let's not act like Lebron had a contending supporting cast between 2003-2010. Retiring vet Big Z and then Mo Williams, those were his best players stop it lol. Not one player would start on any of those contending teams in that era let alone were stars. Cavs never traded or drafted anything that moved the needle. He only needed one real player but going to MIA and getting 2 stars (1 superstar) was overkill so that will always hurt his legacy.
Man down sports is slick with this bias I’m telling ya bra 🤣. When somebody listens to you they’re going to assume Cleveland had an even roster with Orlando. You’re going to bring up how many regular season wins Cleveland had when you know regular season wins doesn’t automatically translate to playoff basketball and it doesn’t mean you have the best roster to compete in the playoffs. Another thing. This whole Wade Bosh and Bron big 3 is so damn overrated by yall. Didn’t you watch them? Didn’t you see Wade out there hobbling?? Missing 25 games a season comparable to Lebron in LA. Matter fact Lebron played more games last season in year 22 than d Wade played his last 3 seasons in Miami. But you’ll act like that was flash when we clearly saw it wasn’t! That’s why you’ll have to go down the roster you can’t just look at 3 players and act like the Heat didn’t have Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole in the backcourt lol. With what??? Birdman Anderson? Joel Anthony, Eric dampier, the best wing they got was Shane battier who they added in 2011. Washed Mike miller out there? No all defensive players but Lebron??? Once you lose this bias and just tell us what happened on the actual court while using the great basketball mind you have, you’ll be a lot better talking the game man.
He never ran to join other legends either. He went against the Celtics 76ers Pistons and Bucks all who had better teams in the 80$ and mutiple all stars and hall of famers
@@YoungJones-im8fn And he lost because like I said his game never evolved and he didn’t play any defense. That’s why he has to speak positively on Michael Jordan and that era, he has to attach his name and legacy to something people remember
@@williamalexander9485 u def right he didn't play defense for nothing 😂 but he was one of the best scorers in the league. He always was in top 5 in scoring and he challenged MJ alot of those years for scoring titles. I think if he had another reliable costar he would've won more. I watched him take on all those teams without another great player. That's like expecting Iverson to beat the lakers
@@YoungJones-im8fn Now from the 90s Barkley joined the 53 win Suns leaving the 35 win 76ers behind, then he teamed up with Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen, both multiple time winners and bombed. He replaced Clyde Drexler who bombed in Portland and Joined Olajuwon in Houston😂😂Shaq couldn’t win in the east so he ran west to the Lakers, then ran south to Miami, and those aren’t the only ones. It’s a big deal today because it’s Lebron.
@@williamalexander9485 yeah Clyde couldn't win but he had been to finals twice. He lost to Bulls and Pistons. They used to say Clyde was better than MJ cause he led Portland to finals first. Clyde went to 2 finals and wcf game 7 in 3 years before going to Houston. Shaq didn't join a championship roster
It’s crazy cuz Man Down Spprts be having some great takes until he starts talking nba basketball and that bias comes pouring out. You really just gon say oh Orlando only had 1 superstar and leave it at that huh? Without going down that roster? How many teams did Jordan beat that had 2 20ppg scorers on the roster? Since we are casually counting stars now…..let’s do the comparison to the 90s
@@Mandownsports ok……..but when you’re saying that you’re implying it’s even rosters because each team has 1 superstar……🤣🤣😭 this is what I’m saying bro you sounding like a casual because of your bias. You’re obviously not a casual cuz when you’re talking basketball and it doesn’t involve LeBron you’re usually on point
@@Mar-t6n there are Superstars, Allstars, Role players and bench players. Both the cavs and the magic had 1 Superstar, with role players, some of which played at an allstar level(Turkulou, Lewis & Mo Williams, Big Z) it really boiled down to which Superstar performed better. Dwight Howard outperformed Lebron. The Cavs also had Ben Wallace who was just fine ad a Piston but couldn't play with Lebron, Delorme West & Joe Smith.
@@Mandownsports big z ain’t play like a all star that entire season lmao. In fact he played 1 more season after that year and retired bra. He shot 47% for a career as a 7 foot center!!! mo Williams shot 37% from the field that series, and you forgot guys like Michel Pietras who was going crazy at that time, they had rafer Alton, and Courtney Lee, Ben Wallace?????? 🤣🤣🤣 I know you ain’t mention Ben Wallace in 09…this is what we doing man???
@@Mandownsports the only reason you can say Dwight Howard outperformed LeBron is because his team won the series lol! Like where’s the logic behind that??? His team won 4-2 and that includes a game winner Lebron hit. That series was close to being a sweep. Orlando just had bigger and better players. And better shooting. With an actual dominant big which the Cavs didn’t have.
You mentioned Orlando not having another superstar…. They had 3 6’10 players on their lineup including 2 6’10 wings that could score. 3 point snipers everywhere. That’s way more than Lebron had. Plus you didn’t mention Boston with rondo, Allen, Garnett, and Pierce. Brons roster was no where near comparable to the Magic or Celtics
Lol you didnt mention no roster in East being compared to Heat nor 2nd stint with Cavs tht allowed him to go to 8 straight Finals either. Groupie logic on display
That dunk contest ain’t got shit on 2016, be real bro😂! Them dunks y’all was doing 50 years ago, 9th graders can do them shi**s 😂! I bet y’all won’t put them dunk highlights up. It’s not even close 😂
That may be true but that still doesn't negate the fact that we haven't seen the best player in the NBA in the dunk contest. Forget that when the last time a top ten player in the NBA has been in the dunk contest?
@@DRIVINGPARKCBYA Being a good dunker in the game and being a Contest Dunker is not the same thing. Most, if not all of the top 10 players are not contest dunkers. Look at Jaylen Brown. He cold dunking in the game but his contest dunks was weak sauce by modern standards. And the All-Stars have a super busy weekend already. They not just showing up and hooping in these events like back in the day. The got to do sponsorship events, charity stuff, shoot commercials, practice! Even more than what I know. It’s a lot of stuff crowed into a three day weekend now. The more events you compete in, the less time you can actually enjoy being an all-star. It’s not like it was back in the day. Y’all probably just want them to participate so y’all can knitpick and hate on them more anyways 😂. Lol jp
@@AnthonyHough-f7t $100 Billion. That’s all I gotta say 😂. JP. I agree that dunk contest ain’t good most years but it more about the fact that it’s harder to entertain people in current generation. Like I said ain’t nobody getting today excited about that weak shit MJ and Dom was doing 50 years ago 😂. Players still doing way better dunks than that and it’s still not enough. It ain’t the players fault, it’s just the higher standards for entertainment today. It’s only so much new stuff you can do in a dunk contest. A lot of stuff already been done before. The only I can probably see it getting better is letting professional dunkers do the contest with them.
The real reason for all of the load managing. They pick and choose games to maximize their stats.
I believe that's happening for sure
It's the teams 🤦🏾♂️ spurs did this like a decade ago but why we blaming this Gen for stuff that was happening before the were in the league 🤣
@@leeolie3728 sadly this is what this sissyboy league has become! It’s about getting stats not rings!
Joel Embiid did that and got hurt later, he chose the games in which he could score more, so the media started to root harder for him. He wasn't going to make the minimum games played last year before the injury, with something like 60% of the games left, he only had like 4 games to miss.
Present ant ain't even near rookie 84 mj. They just started comparing him to MJ and his head suddenly grew 20x😩😂
@@nassiglutt6587 dang shame
and ANT has not achieved anything and he’s wrecking his future by both his words and actions
@@markmussington4131 they learned it from Draymond and Lebron
@@markmussington4131 yeah antman is good just not very smart!
@@markmussington4131 todays players are mentally weak but they they think there great? and some day they maybe? but not yet!
Like the time LeBron won that dunk contest back in the..................oh that's right his BA never ever tried.
Jordan with the kiss the rim dunks was sweet
Made me fall in love with the Jordan 2’s.
"even with concrete evidence you cant convince LE'idiots" mark twain knew
@@AnthonyHough-f7t lol
Ain’t no way you a grown man using these terms lol. LeIdiots huh? That man got yall in yall feelings everyday lol
In game Shawn Kemp, MJ, Wilkins and Vince Carter. I say Kemp can't really go wrong!
@@broshawnjackson154 that's an accurate statement
Yup
& throw Dr. J, Gerald Green & Stromile Swift in there as well.
The fact that Tim Ducan, Dirk, Steph, and KD beat prime LBJ in the NBA Championship totally disqualifies him from the GOAT conversation all together. LBJ stat chasing via longevity is like saying Cal Ripken is better than Derek Jeter.
Good analogy with Cal
@@NateWilliams-j4r he also beat everyone here tho except Dirk……actually KD and Steph teamed up to beat Bron. I know basic basketball logic doesn’t apply to LeBron haters but at least you can try to be objective. You didn’t even try old man.
@@Mar-t6n but none those players aren't running around calling themselves the goat they have the same goat as me MJ the real 23
@@michaelhowell6448 I can dig it. If Lebron feels he’s the goat though why can’t he say it. I’m confused 🤔 he has a hell of a case. Didn’t I just tell you 2 of the players mentioned teamed up together?
@@Mar-t6n u right but facts is facts he's not
If Labron joins D Wade and Bosh doesn’t that dilutes the eastern conference even more than what it already was🤷♂️
Yup
Yes, it instantly made Toronto and Cleveland lottery teams, and basically gave Miami 10 easy wins.
Who's the better in game dunker MJ or Dominique 🤔 that's a good one. But who has the most bodies in game 🤔 MJ got a lot of center's/power forward on his body count. But Dominique was cold he's another one that would dominate today he was more than a dunker. Respect great video
Jordan as a player the goat Jordan as a slam dunker the goat
Our generation is not the same as this one. When you change the idea of greatness you can make anyone great. If James stayed with Cleveland I would have more respect. If Jordan chose to play with a few of the best every other year, he wouldn’t have ever lost. Do you know how hard it is to be that one guy? James isn’t. That’s why he bounced around, it’s too heavy.
Speaking of And 1….remember that commercial talking about the NBA all stars versus the hood all stars. “Cuz when you come to the hood…things change”.
Nah! How do I find that!? 🤔
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I remember that commercial, it's on FB "come to the hood and 1 commercial"
@@Mandownsports I tried linking it here but it disappeared. However it’s titled “2000 And1 Commercial” on here.
Kobe Gentleman swept the Magic team that stomped the LeBron led Cavs.
“The Air up there” has some of the best dunks I’ve ever seen. Ever. The 720… sheesh.
To this day, I wish the NBA would’ve let Skip to my Lou, go off. Lol. But you stated it and showed it, and I remember how the league made Skip always be Rafer Alston… there were announcers who in game would say how the NBA wanted to keep the “playground” influence out of the game.
Sidenote, but relevant…
I’ve been watching the game since 75-76… and I was a young boy, excited to see two players I’d heard about…. Pistol L
Pete and Dr. J….
The reason? Because those guys resonated in the “hood”… interesting enough, the NBA wasn’t keen on showcasing Pistol, although he was white, and I can recall announcers openly criticizing his “play ground” game.
Also understand, that dunking was rare, especially in game. Usually it was just basic dunks, although I can remember Connie Hawkins, even late in his career doing some “great for the time” things while dunking, it was Dr. J, who by word of mouth~ unless you lived in NY and saw him at the Rucker…. or tapped in enough to catch him in the ABA… and for context, TV reception was TERRIBLE… lol..
But Dr. J was an urban legend even before he became the first “face of the league “ I can remember… Kareem was winning MVP’s and it was some very good players. But Dr. J had all the endorsements… His game was marketed by the league… to my memory, he was the first guy who was so well known outside of basketball… and also for context in the 70’s Basketball was undercover known as “the Black man’s game” and fans weren’t filling arenas and basketball was probably fourth on the totem pole of athletic popularity in the 70’s behind football, Baseball, and boxing, honestly College basketball may have been more popular. It was definitely broadcast more.
In the early 80’s… other kids were impressed that I’d know all the starting five for the whole NBA and even what college they went too, now this is before EA Live, or 2K, well before any basketball video game.
With the exception of Dr J vs Larry Bird on the Commodore 64. Damn I’m old.
But yeah… it was because college basketball was shown far more than the NBA, and I was fortunate to live in ACC country with a local team, which all the games were broadcast locally even back then.
My point to this story,
Dr J… game was never the same once he got to the NBA, my pops used to say the NBA was holding him back, and it was a shame because fans never got to see the real Dr J…
I was too young to understand that context. But looking back… now I can see he was right.
and the fans apparently didn’t want that type of game in the NBA…
Pistol Pete. Had an influence in the game that most don’t understand…
he transcend race and his teaching skills tutorial was highly influential, and his creativity influenced how young generation viewed ball handling, and Isiah came later. But it was Pete initially that gave that spark… before Pete, guards didn’t play with flair, like Pete.. they just didn’t. Tiny Archibald was nice nice. But not flashy. World B Free could JUMP JUMP but he was basic..
David Thompson,
was D Wade ish… but with a high vertical. Now his dunks were power…
Dr Dunkenstein. Darrell Griffith played in Utah, injuries and Jerry Sloan toned his game down.
SMH. He had that flair as well.
My point. Coaches and fans viewed that type of play as “Ninja Ball, Globetrotter, showboat, and wanted none of that…
TBH outside of his passing Magic didn’t play flashy, offensively his game was boring and ugly, unless he was in transition… funny looking jump shot 😂😂😂
We all know about what happened with Iverson and Alston…
The NBA didn’t want that type of play in the games.
Up until the recent rule changes … freedom of movement and the zero step gather step… I was fine with the ball handling rules. Allowing the players to do a little extra, (Jamaal Crawford) but not to excessive (everyone in this era)
and Pistol was the first that did it and kept going… even when the league hated it and didn’t support it…
Now it’s the game… it’s gone to far in the other direction… it’s more playground pickup, skill wise when it comes to ball handling…
It’s not “real” basketball…
rather it’s incomplete basketball…
The ratings tell you everything. Nobody watches this trash now. The best basketball ever played was 80s and 90s I'm not saying it the ratings are saying it.
Well it damn sure isn't the last 10 to 20 years
ManDown you have one of best shows on TH-cam! You should try to get Cube on, that would be awesome!
Ice Cube!? Sheesh, I wouldn't even know how tonreach him
Well said. I’m a Spurs fan used to be a Lebron fan his first stint in Cleveland until the Decision we wanted to see him vs Melo, Wade, or Bosh to see who’s better that’s what competition is about losing until you find a way to win.
That’s a strong, insightful statement by Nique! I agree wholeheartedly!
Elite stars are scared to go against each other
They wanna play buddy buddy and team up
It's not only in today's Mary Kay Massengill DNA NBA. Have you been to your local rec renter or park lately? These Monistat cats are all about the stack. They prefer it extremely easy. They're petrified of a little adversity. It looks like Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals. Only thing missing is confetti buckets. It was total opposite when I was growing up. I was one of the best street-ballers in my city and befriended another of the city's best street-ballers - and we never wanted to play on same team. Not only cause it be unfair if playing against inferior competition but we always wanted to beat each other.
I'm 55 yrs old now and have two herniated discs and Greg Oden knees but I still go out there and ball when my body feels decent. I've been dubbed Baby Shaq for the last decade or so cause I stay in the paint and dominate. Today's Vagisil heads complain that I play too physical in the post and claim that's why they can't stop me with my back to the bucket. But the real reason they can't check me is cause my footwork is impeccable, I have a McHale-like jump-hook and I can finish with either hand on either side of the backboard. And some idiots claim us 80s/90s cats didn't have skills!
You're preaching!!
Them little hat owners would never bring in And1 to show up their league.
What is so crazy to me about the NBA players who don't want to be in the dunk contest, is that they love to showboat their Dunks in the games/ But don't want to showcase how good of a dunker they really are in the real dunk competition.
How to get them to want to be in it: The NBA can ask for the top 5 greatest dunker to be the Judges, Like Dr. jay, MJ, Dominique, Vince, Spud, because players like to showboat in front of the best, since it's only annually contest, have a larger fancier Trophy add with a crystal glass crown on top basketball hoop with gold engrave with a Diamond looking crystal stone on the bottom of the shining wood and hype it up by using famous people like, Kevin hart and Travis Kelce, and a few others. And ask Mj to Hand it out the Trophy.
I have to agree with Nique. To many Stacy Patton’s in the Association. The 3 Point Contest has overshadowed the Gatorade Dunk Contest. I have thoughts. The Dunk Contest have to be on the All Star team. The prize should be 5 Million. A one year shoe deal as the Dunk Champion and commercial. Nique is one of the best dunkers but what his memorable dunks and on who. I’ve got Dr. J., Jordan, 1/2 Man, 1/2 Amazing and The Rain Man as some of the greatest.
This era touch fouls, load management, flopping, forming superteams is SO SOFT 🤗🤗🤗
Exactly!!
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Dominique was right they don't complete, they are truly entertaining and not competing to be their best and to put the other team to shame to show who is dominant, entertainment that's all!
I think the great players back then stood out more vs todays players who are more evenly matched. With that said the old school was more hardcore in all ways period.
He is right look at boxing its the same thing all the boxer dont want go fight each other all the care about is keeping the 0 oh i am 19 and 0 but who you fought ,man i miss the 90s
NBA and boxing turns to entertainment and less about competition everyone wants accolades
This is a great show appreciate the content. Keep pressing my brother!
@@ALMasterChief salute 🫡 appreciate that
He said same thing you been saying Mel 😎. These guys today dont want to compete, they want to join, league is neutered
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As a long time lakers fan since the early 90s. Kobe never forced shaq to leave. He didn't mind shaq leaving, but shaq demanded the trade because phil was fired. Also, kobe was never a sidekick to shaq. During the western conference playoffs, kobe normally led the Lakers in ppg. While shaq wasn't necessarily killing the west bigs, but holding his own, kobe was killing his matchups with dominant wing defenders. Kobe also was always the closer. Especially late game fts. Yall, who didn't watch, please stop saying saq carried or kobe was the sidekick. Also, no one was saying back then that kobe was being carried. We all were already doing the Kobe vs. Mj comparisons because all we had to do was watch kobe play to see how good he was. Shaq didn't win before Kobe. Kobes rookie year had fans cheering and begging for him to play. We knew kobe was the next great during his rookie year. Even his 2nd year, while not starting, was voted as an all-star starter. Because we SAW him play, so we already KNEW. Most of us real, not casuals knew, that if kobe like iverson and vince had his own team, he'd avg well over 30 ppg. He also avg 30 along with shaq 1 or 2 seasons. People just dont understand how crazy and good u had to be to do that with a Shaq get his 20 shots in the 90s. I could care less kobe had Shaq. That doesn't put him below any other player. Its like saying that mj had Shaq. we'll put kobe ahead because kobe won with pippen. If we're honest about skill, kobe was more skilled than mj offensively, mj might have been slightly better defensively. However, kobe played against better and more athletic defenders in the toughest scoring era. Lebron isn't a 2-way player, and in 2016, without his roids during the 1st 20 games declined.
"the air up there" was the guy from and 1. Kenny Smith said in one dunk contest that there's a guy in the G League that can do a 720 (the air up there) but the league wouldn't give him he props. Yes he made it to the G League but my issue is (may come off as racist) with all the athletic men in basketball the league passes on a black man that has done something not even attempted by anyone else but accepts Mat. Also 2k passes on black men for dunk animations (ok fine) but call this white guy one of the greatest dunkers ever is ridiculous.
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Wilkins told the truth about everything he said these players today in the nba is very soft they want everything handed to them and they really do not want to compete at nothing .
Not all of them. LeFraud, KD sure. Can't say Curry doesn't want to compete. Or Jokic. I like the compete I see in Wemby.
Lol Curry flew to Hamptons to recruit KD tho
The dunk contest should be put on hold for about 3 years
Yikes
I was surprised a guy like JA Morant refused to get in the dunk contest or someone like Catlin Clark who refuses to get in the 3 point contest and she supposed to be the Steph Curry of the women's league.
Yeah he tripping
Nga said he ain’t gon do it unless he gets a billion followers 🙄
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Best in game dunker, VINCE "Half Man half Amazing" CARTER said hold my 🍻!
And Kobe played in a tough western conference facing the teams like Spurs, Suns, Nuggets, Jazz, Rockets, Memphis, Mavs etc. to get to the playoffs, finals and winning it all. While LBJ were facing 38-44, 40-42 teams in the east.😂😂😂
@@ronaldoreyes4119 facts
If Mac McClung after winning his 2nd Dunk Contest would have said "You know, I'm the best dunker in the NBA, i just won for a 2nd time, i announce myself as the best dunker in the NBA! There's nothing to argue outside the court! I just won for a 2nd time!" One of two things would happen.
Either other great dunkers would sign for the Slam Dunk Contest for next year, or he would be forced to forfeit by the commissioner, because THAT guy has to be protecting the image of every single NBA star all the time, he doesn't like when anything outside of the NBA core of stars makes the "best players" look not as bright as they make them to be, without actually proving their worth, Adam Silver is very very careful of not depreciating the value of any of his players, regardless if he affects the show, the ratings and the public's perception.
We have mo competition anymore, everybody gotta watch their mouth and say the other guy is great even if they just shat all over the place.
@@Al.j.Vasquez you make a good point!
Really, there is only one way to settle the "who's better debate between Kobe and LeBron. Research every time they went one on one in every single game that they have played and tally up those individual stats for each player. You really cant go by who has more points, who has more rings etc. Because those are in game, team accomplishments with most of those points gained by being guarded by different players at different times. Back in the day, when my friends and i wanted to see who the best player was....we went to the court and played one on one. With Kobe and LeBron, most people are judging who is better when they playing the team game, so yall confusing who the better team player is with who was just better by themselves. I dont have the time to research everytime Kobe and LeBron went one on one and which player got the best of the other player more. To me, thats how this Kobe vs LeBron debate is settled and i am patiently waiting for somebody to do that research. And BTW....they were both in their prime so theres no excuses no matter who comes out on top in this ongoing debate.
'Nique always been real, but he's been cookin' lately.
I love what Dominique Wilkins said
@@demetriuselliott2696 me too
I agree with you @mel 💯 💯
Man i like when u critique LeBron and give ur opinion about him and don't say this after that " this nothing against LeBron" or " not taking nothing from LeBron greatness". Man i hate when analysis, sports reporters say this anytime they point out anything LeBron do ..
Yeah they just gotta grow a pair
Dominique (@sportztea) is getting crazy airplay over her comments. She did break it down in one of the best ways I’ve heard it put. But Dominique Wilkins was just as truthful with his comments. These clowns today like to play like the untouchable and better than back in the day and very few impress me as ppl who could size up with players back in the day when they actually played defense, challenging every shot and layup or dunk. To me the blocks were better than certain dunks…watching a ball get thrown into the 10th row or defending a team till the shot clock run out on multiple plays. Stats are for statisticians, it don’t tell you how good Joe Dumars was, or anybody else.
Charles Barkley demanded to be traded to a 53 win Phoenix team, from a 35 win 76ers team in 1992. He left them and went to a 2x championship Rockets team to join Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen both multiple NBA champions. Y’all 🧢🧢🧢🧢
And those guy were 34-35 years old at the very end or I’ll even say out of their prime while bosh and lebron were 26-27 respectively in Miami hitting the peak of their prime tell it like it is don’t tell it how it might be 😂
@@Slyme1big Man cut the crap and the excuses. Clyde Drexler was All NBA in 95, and was 32. Charles Barkley was 29👀when he demanded a trade from the 35-47 Seventy sixers and also was All NBA that season. Scottie Pippen made the All defensive team when he joined Olajuwon and Barkley😂😂You guys have the world’s biggest blind spot. Chris Bosh made 1x All NBA team back in 2007, and he’s the best player on a lottery, but a role player on a championship team. MJ had Rodman a 2x DPOY also who was already a champion and the best rebounder and one of the best defenders of the 90s, now that’s a super team
What dunk can they do That would be good for the dunk contest… we seen it all
The bottom line is Kobe, nor Jordan won without a co star its nothing wrong with having one.
Mel talking about the And1 player 50 was his name he had a true 50" vertical
That's crazy
@@Mandownsports th-cam.com/video/UkrkUVbz7Rk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UUAUjhWfTMoxHXfK this link to him doing the 720 dunk u talking about
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@@Mandownsports that's the link to the dunk u talking about. th-cam.com/video/UkrkUVbz7Rk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UUAUjhWfTMoxHXfK
@@Mandownsports I was wrong about who it was it was their player name Air up there not 50 but they both had 50" verticals
I knew in college Scottie Pippin would be that guy and the bulls knew it too
oh really? lol
pip averaged 7 ppg in his rookie season
I'm coming in late. Regarding Dominique and what he said about the dunk competition. Here's my thought: Aren't NBA players employees of the NBA? It's as simple as making them do the dunk competition. If they look like crap doing it, that's on them! They better practice for it if they want to look good, but everyone is REQUIRED to participate in the NBA Dunk Competition! Period. These nba players are employees. I wish I could be a lazy asshple and keep my job! Tell my boss nope, I just don't feel like working today..How long would I keep my job for?
They are more like independent contractors than they are employees so I dont know if it's that easy
@@AdamsGuitarsAndCases still ain't no way they'll oblige. The AS alone alone shows they're just halfhearted showing bitches in uniforms. They're just there for the tunnel outfits and doesn't care about fans of basketball. Hundreds of millions made them the opposite
I think you’re overlooking that all of the “all star” related events is voluntary, they aren’t getting paid any extra incentive to do the 3pt contest, dunk contest, skills challenge. So you can’t “force” them
Now, I agree with your logic as for as implementing what you said for games played! That makes plenty of sense, maybe doc their pay per game for a game missed that’s not Injury related. But all star stuff? Nothing you can do about that
UNLESS!!!! You’re in the all star GAME! Then you SHOULD have some extra responsibilities
@@AdamsGuitarsAndCases NBA players today want to act tough and great but they can’t do it on the court
It all starts with lebum as big and strong as he is he is King Flop!
Lebron will not do the dunk contest because he wouldn't have anyone to blame when he loses.
Lmao it is so true
Dominique best in game dunker by far??
Have you ever heard of Shawn Kemp🙄
Dominique would of destroyed this era’s players
True
It’s the Mayweather effect
Lebron been ducking the dunk contest since 2003.
HERE TO CORRECT MYSELF I SAID DAVID THOMPSON I MEANT TO SAY GEORGE GIRVIN THE ICEMAN THAT'S WHO I MEANT TO HAVE SAID WAS ON THE TEAM WITH JORDAN FOR ONE YEAR
The Guy who did the 720.name was Air up there 🏀⛹🏾♂️
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Wilkins doesn't exist anymore because of lebron james and Jordan
Jordan made Pippen a star....
MJ will wipe the floor using Ant Edward butt if they’re on the court play against each other
Dominique Was Unique and the truth don't lie Why because the best Want to Compete against the rest for a Worthy Contest🤓*
👍💯🏀, I 👀👀 it ..still the best one 💯 Nique during the games ..WOW,
I think Dominique is making a mistake here of taking his mentality as the default mentality of this era players, and that's not the case as we discuss in a previous episode. LeBron James to take an example, he has taken all kind of punishments in the regular season, the playoffs and the finals and he's jumping around left and right calling himself the GOAT like if nothing have happened, I can't see how losing a dunk contest is gonna make any difference. He's just lazy, there's no added bonus (sic) or damn money (sic). Players these days have no shame, I couldn't believe Edwards was talking all that smack in the Olympics right after being humbled in the FIBA world cup. They don't care about the losing, if they don't participate my believe is that it's out of sheer laziness.
He just don't understand how the mentality changed so quickly
@@Mandownsports yeah man, it's sad and it's happening all over the world. The World ain't catching the US, the US is receeding faster rather. I remember how in early 2000's a guy from my college won the Slam Dunk contest for the Spanish pro League ACB. The thing is, my college didn't had anything near a decent basketball team, he infact signed in for the contest as a "popular contender" and he was around my age, like 18/19 yo and my hight 6'2/6'3 at most. Sure, he jumped out of the gym but I was puzzle, like, how on earth is this guy defeating the pros? Sadly, that was all his career as a basketball player, he never played in a professional league. Second that year in the Slam Dunk contest was an American college player named Antonio Granger, from Detroit and played in Boston College, 6'7 215... but couldn't defeat the street guy 🤣 at least Granger made a career after that he went to Turkey and Russia and won Leagues there.
They was the best Dominique hands down was the best dunker in the league pure two foot power dunker vs Mj who was the lord or finesse which was better , well by itself MJ made it look like Art and it came neck to neck best ever , we got Dee brown and kemp doing it after , Spud Webb , Kobe Vince… Lebron was scared after failing in HS
thats a fact
This is why Lebron won't do the dunk contest; because it might reveal his phony lies: close and open to the world. Also LeBron couldn't win rings, so he wanted to chase stats so his argument would be better and his fans would say that it was Michael Jordan who couldn't do this (instead of LeBron can't do what MJ did): so they turned it into MJ had no three, he couldn't pass and he couldn't go left... to make him an all around player like BRON.
this is real, they join each other and are afraid to compete against one another, the first being Le Gm Groat ( goes regulary on another teams) lebron james !!!!
They chang6the rules for MJ i guess y'all forgot about that
They changed the rules from prison ball to normal physical basketball. Then in this new era they changed it from normal physical basketball to no defense allowed.
You sound crazy, the gold is to get out of the east and get blown out in the finals
A lot of great points being made, but that’s why I say this era is soft & passive , they duck any real challenge in any form of the sport and they spoiled to the point they hardly know the history of the game…. It’s pathetic in many ways , even there “ best “ is pretty much a 6x loser when compared to other champions ijs 🤷🏿♂️
This era is screwed
We couldn’t see if Lebron was better than Wade and Bosh cuz he played with them??? 🤣🤣🤣 boy be sounding real casual.
Marty boi! Why u cheating on Robin,gotta be loyal Marty hahahaha 🤙
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Shawn Kemp and Dominique Wilkins were the only two players that I saw that dunked on both teams in the half court and in transition.
IT'S A CLOSE CALL BUT I'M NOT GOING TO LIE JORDAN IS THE BEST IN-GAME DUNKER
I cant argue with that
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Too afraid to fail is more than just a modern day nba thing it's a current generational thing. So the younger guys are gonna have this mentality as it's sadly part of the culture.
3:23 as a prefix MJ is the only Goat. But let's not act like Lebron had a contending supporting cast between 2003-2010. Retiring vet Big Z and then Mo Williams, those were his best players stop it lol. Not one player would start on any of those contending teams in that era let alone were stars. Cavs never traded or drafted anything that moved the needle. He only needed one real player but going to MIA and getting 2 stars (1 superstar) was overkill so that will always hurt his legacy.
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Man down sports is slick with this bias I’m telling ya bra 🤣. When somebody listens to you they’re going to assume Cleveland had an even roster with Orlando. You’re going to bring up how many regular season wins Cleveland had when you know regular season wins doesn’t automatically translate to playoff basketball and it doesn’t mean you have the best roster to compete in the playoffs.
Another thing. This whole Wade Bosh and Bron big 3 is so damn overrated by yall. Didn’t you watch them? Didn’t you see Wade out there hobbling?? Missing 25 games a season comparable to Lebron in LA. Matter fact Lebron played more games last season in year 22 than d Wade played his last 3 seasons in Miami. But you’ll act like that was flash when we clearly saw it wasn’t! That’s why you’ll have to go down the roster you can’t just look at 3 players and act like the Heat didn’t have Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole in the backcourt lol. With what??? Birdman Anderson? Joel Anthony, Eric dampier, the best wing they got was Shane battier who they added in 2011. Washed Mike miller out there? No all defensive players but Lebron??? Once you lose this bias and just tell us what happened on the actual court while using the great basketball mind you have, you’ll be a lot better talking the game man.
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Dominique is protecting his own legacy because he’s been to 1 conference final in 15 seasons, his game never evolved and he never played any defense.
He never ran to join other legends either. He went against the Celtics 76ers Pistons and Bucks all who had better teams in the 80$ and mutiple all stars and hall of famers
@@YoungJones-im8fn And he lost because like I said his game never evolved and he didn’t play any defense. That’s why he has to speak positively on Michael Jordan and that era, he has to attach his name and legacy to something people remember
@@williamalexander9485 u def right he didn't play defense for nothing 😂 but he was one of the best scorers in the league. He always was in top 5 in scoring and he challenged MJ alot of those years for scoring titles. I think if he had another reliable costar he would've won more. I watched him take on all those teams without another great player. That's like expecting Iverson to beat the lakers
@@YoungJones-im8fn Now from the 90s Barkley joined the 53 win Suns leaving the 35 win 76ers behind, then he teamed up with Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen, both multiple time winners and bombed. He replaced Clyde Drexler who bombed in Portland and Joined Olajuwon in Houston😂😂Shaq couldn’t win in the east so he ran west to the Lakers, then ran south to Miami, and those aren’t the only ones. It’s a big deal today because it’s Lebron.
@@williamalexander9485 yeah Clyde couldn't win but he had been to finals twice. He lost to Bulls and Pistons. They used to say Clyde was better than MJ cause he led Portland to finals first. Clyde went to 2 finals and wcf game 7 in 3 years before going to Houston. Shaq didn't join a championship roster
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Once he gets tested and he is dirty he will be even a bigger bozo than he is now
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@@davidhallsr.4779 call what you want?I call it the truth!
It’s crazy cuz Man Down Spprts be having some great takes until he starts talking nba basketball and that bias comes pouring out.
You really just gon say oh Orlando only had 1 superstar and leave it at that huh? Without going down that roster?
How many teams did Jordan beat that had 2 20ppg scorers on the roster? Since we are casually counting stars now…..let’s do the comparison to the 90s
Orlando did have 1 superstar when they beat Lebron and the Cavs
@@Mandownsports ok……..but when you’re saying that you’re implying it’s even rosters because each team has 1 superstar……🤣🤣😭 this is what I’m saying bro you sounding like a casual because of your bias. You’re obviously not a casual cuz when you’re talking basketball and it doesn’t involve LeBron you’re usually on point
@@Mar-t6n there are Superstars, Allstars, Role players and bench players. Both the cavs and the magic had 1 Superstar, with role players, some of which played at an allstar level(Turkulou, Lewis & Mo Williams, Big Z) it really boiled down to which Superstar performed better. Dwight Howard outperformed Lebron. The Cavs also had Ben Wallace who was just fine ad a Piston but couldn't play with Lebron, Delorme West & Joe Smith.
@@Mandownsports big z ain’t play like a all star that entire season lmao. In fact he played 1 more season after that year and retired bra. He shot 47% for a career as a 7 foot center!!! mo Williams shot 37% from the field that series, and you forgot guys like Michel Pietras who was going crazy at that time, they had rafer Alton, and Courtney Lee, Ben Wallace?????? 🤣🤣🤣 I know you ain’t mention Ben Wallace in 09…this is what we doing man???
@@Mandownsports the only reason you can say Dwight Howard outperformed LeBron is because his team won the series lol! Like where’s the logic behind that??? His team won 4-2 and that includes a game winner Lebron hit. That series was close to being a sweep. Orlando just had bigger and better players. And better shooting. With an actual dominant big which the Cavs didn’t have.
I guess y'all forgot Kibe threatened to run but being he had a better owner they got him some help
@@davidhallsr.4779 yeah we forgot about that because it's irrelevant
You mentioned Orlando not having another superstar…. They had 3 6’10 players on their lineup including 2 6’10 wings that could score. 3 point snipers everywhere. That’s way more than Lebron had. Plus you didn’t mention Boston with rondo, Allen, Garnett, and Pierce. Brons roster was no where near comparable to the Magic or Celtics
Lol you didnt mention no roster in East being compared to Heat nor 2nd stint with Cavs tht allowed him to go to 8 straight Finals either. Groupie logic on display
@@tdup191 why does this old man keep typing to me yall? How do I block him?
@@Mar-t6n lol facts hurt your goofy feelings 🤣
@@tdup191 nah you’re just a old weirdo bro. Nothing more nothing less.
Y'all find ways to knock LeBron. Y'all are HATERS all day
That dunk contest ain’t got shit on 2016, be real bro😂! Them dunks y’all was doing 50 years ago, 9th graders can do them shi**s 😂! I bet y’all won’t put them dunk highlights up. It’s not even close 😂
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That may be true but that still doesn't negate the fact that we haven't seen the best player in the NBA in the dunk contest. Forget that when the last time a top ten player in the NBA has been in the dunk contest?
The viewership begs to differ nobody watching
@@DRIVINGPARKCBYA Being a good dunker in the game and being a Contest Dunker is not the same thing. Most, if not all of the top 10 players are not contest dunkers. Look at Jaylen Brown. He cold dunking in the game but his contest dunks was weak sauce by modern standards. And the All-Stars have a super busy weekend already. They not just showing up and hooping in these events like back in the day. The got to do sponsorship events, charity stuff, shoot commercials, practice! Even more than what I know. It’s a lot of stuff crowed into a three day weekend now. The more events you compete in, the less time you can actually enjoy being an all-star. It’s not like it was back in the day. Y’all probably just want them to participate so y’all can knitpick and hate on them more anyways 😂. Lol jp
@@AnthonyHough-f7t $100 Billion. That’s all I gotta say 😂. JP. I agree that dunk contest ain’t good most years but it more about the fact that it’s harder to entertain people in current generation. Like I said ain’t nobody getting today excited about that weak shit MJ and Dom was doing 50 years ago 😂. Players still doing way better dunks than that and it’s still not enough. It ain’t the players fault, it’s just the higher standards for entertainment today. It’s only so much new stuff you can do in a dunk contest. A lot of stuff already been done before. The only I can probably see it getting better is letting professional dunkers do the contest with them.