Love how this pretty much turned into "the Do's and Don'ts of runestone forgery"😂 And thanks again for taking this time when you are so busy with all your other stuff. You're always one of the highlights of my week. (I wish I had money so I could become a patreon or something)
"We lost 10 men and are being pursued through this wild land by an unknown evil. Must make haste to our ships in the inland sea or surely perish. Suddenly realizing that stopping to carve this stone is only the latest in a long series of bad life decisions. We need to take a good long look at--continued on back of stone."
We NEED a fake runestone that translates to "Subscribe to The Welsh Viking". It could even be a badge or sticker for merch. I am legitimately upset that I don't have the talent to create one, or the funds to commission it! 😂
There's a artist on yt over on frog leap studios he does metal covers of all kinds of music. He's from Norway, I wonder if he would know how to do this. I bet he would. His name's Leo.
Sure, I grant you it's a fake runestone, but tell me you wouldn't watch a movie named, "Valley of the Gnomes!" I might just have to make it because I'm bummed it doesn't exist.
There appear to be at least two places in the US called the Valley of the Gnomes, one in Utah, one in Seattle, Washington. Perhaps a location shoot is in order? :)
Oh no. As a Nordic who studied art history in the States, I ended up making a rune stone for one of my classes, and absolutely carelessly disregarded it somewhere in Northern Virginia years ago. If anyone finds it... - I take no responsibility! 😂
I've done similar in southwest PA but usually in a wholly fictional alphabet like Elvish or Theban so as to make the joke more obvious (and funny) to those in the know. Too many people insisting Vinland was New Jersey.
"use the right alphabet is forgery 101" sounds like it's learned by experience was teenage jimmy trying to make a fake id and like 'oh no! i've written it in linear a' :S
I mean there has been documents that has been proven forgeries as they used fonts in Microsoft Word, that wasn't invented at the time the document was supposed to have been written.
Fake news from the USA, no really, I'm deeply adn throughly shocked./s In all seriousness I'm really happy that you are tackling what are essentially historical conspiracy theories and more importantly HOW you do so - with the tact and subtlety that history necessitates to prevent rampant ideologised dogmatism. I say this mostly as a reaction to your whole catalogue of videos, not just this one in particular, though yes including this.
The way he zoomed in on the dreaded capital H (which is yellow as to warn what kind of journalism they do on the Hitler & Aliens channel) was priceless.
My favourite modern runestone makes no effort to hide what date it's from, because it depicts a knight taking down a camera drone by hurling a spear at it.
Brilliant intro again. Love my history, even fake history, with a bit of a laugh. Here, in Detroit, Michigan, there have always been stories of Vikings on the Great Lakes. Along with an actual settlement, that unfortunately (surprise surprise) disappeared under the water, never to be seen again. Very convenient! 😆 We do have some nice, and real, petroglyphs made by indiginous people, though. Definitely worth seeing. Thanks for the vid!
Lol, it's a wonder they find room, due to all the Egyptians, Minoans, and Phoenicians that some people over there believe had outposts and copper mines in the Great Lakes. 🤦😂
I found it hilarious, a guy "on the run from natives", producing a hammer and a chisel and bashing into a rock while hiding.... really? I love this channel and thanks for tackling this.
This reminded me of this bit from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" There! Look! What does it say? What language is that? Brother Maynard, you're our scholar. It is Aramaic! Of course. Joseph of Arimathea! -Of course. -What does it say? It reads, "Here may be found... "...the last words of Joseph of Arimathea: "'He who is valiant and pure of spirit... "'...may find the Holy Grail... "'...in the Castle of Aaargh."' What? "The Castle of Aaargh." What is that? He must have died while carving it. -Come on! -That's what it says. Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't bother to carve "Aaargh." -He'd just say it. -That's what's carved in the rock. -Perhaps he was dictating it. -Shut up! -Does it say anything else? -No! Just "Aaargh."
They apparently have a carved stone from that lost colony in Virginia, carved by a woman after she survived a massacre and while in hiding she carved, badly, this whole perfectly grammatically correct long paragraph. All to say what I just wrote with of course no real details or directions. Sure...
@@lenabreijer1311 I'm just saying, the translation may not be directly " in hiding" or " running" they could be being harassed and slowly killed off and they know they won't win so they keep moving camp trying to make their way out
@@jhtsurvival lol people who are slowly harassed and moving around are not hauling a big rock just in case they lose. People who are treated that way just keep hoping and moving even if they have to do it on a leaky boat across the Mediterranean. They don't haul a rock around to keep a diary of their problems. Also chissling a rock makes lots of odd noise. Your hunter is not going to go "oh listen there goes that woodpecker hitting rocks again, what a stupid bird!"
As an Icelandic American with sizable knowledge of runes and old norse language living in the Midwestern US: 1. I am deeply sorry for these "runestones" 2. I have a sudden urge to make a trans rights runestone in accurate 12th century Icelandic.
You would be able to make that "subscribe to the Welsh Viking" runestone that someone suggested? It would be perfect merch❤ (but no pressure ofc). Though I get that the trans rights one would be first priority.
I want to make one with an accurate date. Something like, "this stone was carved in 2022 common era and if you thought it was an authentic medieval carving in Kansas then you've been fooled."
This video awakened the memory that I'd just forgotten of itty bitty Faye obsessed with dragons using the runes I'd learned from the dragonology book to "translate" the fake Oklahoma runestone. I'm not surprised it's fake nowadays, but it is a really cute story at least edit: okay, I grew up not far from the Mustang mountains, and how have I NOT heard about the Mustang runestone??? I was definitely still in the depths of weird dragon history kid when it was found.
@@mzgreenjeansapproves honestly it’s kinda of a mishmash of what I can find/make as I can afford to. The crown jewel is my 75th anniversary replica shield which I wear on a custom harness. I’m working on duding up some shoulder gambison that I ordered the wrong color on the cheap
Snort. That Minnesota stone is a joke around here. The Minnesota Vikings are as well. Maybe they would play better if they were the Minnesota Swedes.. Yes, I am a Minnesota resident. Didn't know about the other stones. Makes me chuckle every times I see the blonde dude in the Victorian helmet. Oh well, as my Dad says, life gets teejious, don't it. Thank you for another lovely video. Was stoked to see you on a costume collab recently. Take care.
The “Minnesota Viking” mascot with the Horned Helmet is very un-Viking like. That is just a bad copy of an old Costume Concept from a German Wagnerian Ring Cycle Opera in the late 1880’s and has nothing to do with Vikings.
As someone from Minnesota I was wondering when the Kensington Runestone would come up. (I didn't read the video description until after I'd watched the video.) My mother even brought me when I was younger to see the runestone on a trip. It was a very small museum filled with real artifacts surrounding the runestone (because it's obviously real 😉). I will not support the Vikings NFL team because the logo has a horned helmet. (In all seriousness, my dad is an avid supporter of the vikings and I just don't understand the appeal of any version of sportball.) Thanks for the video. It was fun to watch.
way ahead of you. my local SCA group has a runestone in the cellar and it looks pretty nice (I doubt we'll ever move it out to a hill somewhere, the thing is Heavy even as small as it is)
There's a lovely modern runestone in a park in the middle of Tokyo that I think was given to the city in honor of a joint Japanese/Swedish expedition to the antarctic. It took me by surprise and I had to get pictures of it. Definitely the oddest thing I saw while I was there.
Speaking of Vikings in North America (the real ones, this time), have you seen the article from _Nature_ (dated 20 Oct., 2021) that proposes a new *specific* date for the L’Anse aux Meadows settlement site? The TH-cam Channel SciShow mentioned it as the second item in their most recent "News" video, and they link to the _Nature_ article in their video description (The first item in that video is news about the genetics of the domesticated horse, so a cute picture of a foal is in the thumbnail).
If it rests your mind at all, speaking as a Minnesotan, almost everyone knows the Kensington runestone is a fake. However, it's housed in a small town with absolutely no other claim to fame, so they continue wasting tax dollars making it part of a low-rent roadside attraction. The small minority who still insist it's real tend to be of the... ehem... Folkish variety.
@@johannageisel5390 Yeah, same thing in this context. Folkish is used a lot these days due to the Asatru Folk Assembly, which is really just a modern day Volkisch group. They're referred to as either Folkish or neo-Volkisch. 🙂
Would a small American town with little economic activity be tempted to develop a myth into a “legend” in order to tap into the Tourism Industry? I’m sure it’s been done quite a few times.
Well now I really want to fake a runestone in my yard and kickstart the academic recognition of Viking-Taíno relations. "I am Snorri and I am carving this runestone under a palm tree while my wife Anacaona weaves next to me."
I really want to make a runestone now that says 'þú ert fáviti' just to see someone find it and actually act like the idiot I just told them they are (couldn't be bothered to make it more old Icelandic with this migraine but why should I 😄)
It's a miracle that there aren't more forger who trained as archaeologists or historians ;) You know how it should be done. Is it some kind of work ethos that you just can't bring yourself to forge some nice historical document? Or are you just so good that you are not found out ;) (Just kidding, don't take it too serious)
Personally, I actually had the urge to throw my 16th century Lithuanian coin into the excavation ditches during the field week to bamboozle everyone, since why exactly would there be a 16th century Lithuanian coin at a medieval site in Ireland? Unfortunately, greed and pesky ethics got in the way.
I know of someone who has claimed to create a reasonable fake item as a bet with his local vicar to see if it was identified as fake. Apparently it passed but the vicar owned up later.
I'm a Minnesotan of (mostly) Scandinavian decent. The Kensington stone was revealed as a fake many years ago. I'm not sad about that. Thanks for the enlightening video.
As a Minnesotan I wish the runestones and tales of Vikings coming to Minnesota where true but I gotta come to terms with reality that they aren’t and the other Minnesota Vikings won’t win the super bowl
I recently took a road trip to all the Menards in west central Minnesota - the shiplap we were using in our attic was discontinued mid-project - and Alexandria MN was one of the stops. While I was there I thought I’d check out the Kennington Runestone museum. It was a truly charming museum with a one room school house out back and a 4-H museum in the barn along side a replica Viking ship. Everything you could want from a small town museum. I was however very skeptical of the runestone itself. Nice to hear the real history.
I actually knew a professor who did stuff involving old Norse and German… I remember reading some of his articles, and one of them was on the “Kansas City rune stone” and basically long story short his article was like: Yeah, this is from the 19th century…. Because it had a date that literally said 1840 or something along those lines.
Viking reenacted at Heavener two weeks ago :) Lovely mountain and park. Nice place to camp and play. Don't deny the validity of the stone within hearing of any of the locals!
I was so entranced by Editing Jimmy's comments and overlays that I had to rewatch the intro and pay attention to what Speaking Jimmy was saying. Also, please check me on the steps to Making a good Viking runestone forgery! Step 1: find geologically appropriate stone, pleased at how you're really gonna fool people now. Step 2: research actual runestones (as counseled by Jimmy). Step 3: practice the younger, more spry alphabet; graphic design; mustached Viking iconography. Step 4: show a number of different designs to friends, swearing them to secrecy over something they probably don't get. Step 5: toss out some designs for being too silly, others for being too academic and stodgy. Step 5.a. research whether Scandanavians understood 'stodgy' as a concept, or find cultural equivalent. Step 5.b: reconsider earlier designs ruled out for being too English stodgy and determine if they're actually too [Scandanavian equivalent]. Step 6: choose a final design you liked from the beginning that's a bit historical and cheeky at the same time, and consider using modern techniques to engrave. Step 7: rule out modern techniques (even though laser etching which would be SO COOL) and learn how to chisel using age appropriate tools. Years later... Step 8: start chiseling forgery in stone which has by now weathered a bit since you first bought it. Step 9: mess up, throw away, buy more stone (repeat as many times as needed) Step 10: finish a runestone that's halfway decent, beam with reluctant pride and bruised ego at this 'not gonna do another one' final forgery. Step 11: research a place to bury it. Step 12: realize this stone is too damn heavy (maybe you went too far with accuracy), decide to bury it where it sits in your backyard (how did it get there in the first place, you now wonder?!) Step 13: hide all of your tools, break up all previous bad copies with a sledgehammer, wipe your internet search history. Step 14: call the press! Step 15: ... profit, somehow, but as agreed, giving Jimmy a cut.
I watched a History Channel "documentary" back in like 2007 that claimed the Kengsington runestone was created by a band of Templars, who had fled to...Minnesota. Because, you see, Templars liked to use runes as a secret form of communication, especially when being persecuted by...people who were doing that. And, credit where credit's due, this was a creative way of getting around the "this doesn't make any sense as a Viking runestone" problem. It did this by introducing about 15 entirely new problems, but hey, whatever.
I wonder about the gibberish rune stones in the places where Scandinavian settlers were, not that I think they would be genuine, but did the Scandinavian settlers create them for some specific purpose? Did we stumble across someone's 200 year old practical jokes? I would love to be a fly on the wall when they were being carved
I was thinking this, too. I’m envisioning either kids sneaking off with a book that had pictures of runes and making the carvings while pretending to be Vikings, or a group of men who got drunk one night and thought it’d be a fun thing to do and kept going back and adding more once they sobered up because it was winter and they were bored.
Largely it's the same reason kids in junior high insist they know witchcraft. They want to be interesting. But it might also be because they want it to seem like they have some greater claim to the land than the WASPs or the Native Americans the WASPs initially stole the land from. But that 2nd idea might be thinking too far into it. It would be nice if they WERE practical jokes or inside jokes made with no intent to deceive but people who "find" this crap are way too vehement about its pedigree.
As a Minnesotan I'm always glad for explanations of how the Kensington Runestone is proven fake. Jackson Crawford also presented a really good video on it. I grew up with the local mythology. It's a testament, I suppose, to both our desire for a tangible connection to our roots and our very human love of myth in general. Oh, and Scott Wolter is one of ours, too. He's entertaining. Bonus fact; there are way more people of German descent in Minnesota than all our Scandinavians combined. Wolter himself would be one unless he was named through some other means. Go far back enough in history and you'll find the point where it doesn't really matter anyway. You have to understand, Americans need to create our own myths. At least non-Native Americans. What ever we might have inherited from our ancestors has long, long been mixed, mingled, evolved, devolved and lost in vast blending of immigration and time. Sadly, with modern science, there's no more hope of establishing any sort of real mythology of our own. Paul Bunyan and Babe his blue ox... a whole boatload of myths about our own history... But... Öhman tried. We're doing the best we can over here!
There's an ancient runestone in my city of Coeur d'alene Idaho. The stone is ancient but not the writing on it. I know this because I put it there, and when translated it says,"Cameron was here".
Also, poplar trees (a general term for aspens and cottonwoods, all of the *Populus* genus) have very short lifespans, by tree standards. For reference, while some species of maple or oak can reach 3-400 years in age, a poplar would be extraordinarily lucky to exceed 100. If the tree had been present in 1362, there is only a moderate chance of that tree surviving into the 15th century, and no chance whatsoever of that tree reaching the year 1500. Poplars often establish clonal colonies so that could account for some ambiguity, but... uh. Oof.
The beginning of this video reminds me of my zoom class when there's always one person that forgets to unmute and the tutor keeps telling them to unmute. Also now I feel like a challenge has been issued to make a really believable fake rune stone.
Thanks for all of the crime tips! Just kidding, great video, very funny how many of these things are out there. I actually have a question that you might be able to do a video about. What is the idea behind the anount of saliva in some of the Norse mythology I've read about. Like the Kvasir story. But I think I've seen more references on people spitting in a big cauldron but I just can't remember where... Is that an original thing? Or a modern invention?
Editing Jimmy is a hoot! I was very disappointed to learn that the Mustang roonstone didn't say "Eat at Joe's". As for the Kensington one, wasn't it a thing in the Victorian era to create fakes to try to bamboozle their friends? Hey, Jimmy! Want a fake roonstone in the Seattle area? 😈
You have very quickly become one of my favourite TH-camrs. I love History, and, as anybody who watched Indiana Jones, and reading old national geographics from a young age, I am interested in archeology, though I want to study History and Literatur
why do people even want to claim the runestones are historic anyway? Like of you want a cool rock in ur garden you don’t have to pretend a viking carved it
I’ve just been told a number of ridiculous tin foil stories by a US dude (a Minnesota guy)about this Kensington stone and the Norse Viking Swedes Scandinavians that supposedly lived in Minnesota using runes during medieval times bla bla bla and I apparently have a narrow minded attitude because I corrected him. I’m Swedish and we like facts and science and without evidence, it didn’t happen 🤣 Now I’m going to clean my medieval rune stone.
I watched you do a bit of archery in another video today. it had played on from the previous video. I wasn't really paying attention, then I heard your distinguishable voice. You are not bad at archery by the way.
The 'Terrible Swedes' is the common nickname for the athletic teams of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas. They use stylised Viking as their emblem, but no horns on his helmet, unlike the Minnesota Vikings. Lindsborg is a heavily Swedish community, but I don't know of any runestones found in the area. LOL!
"Now we're going to look at the Kensington runestone..." Me, a Minnesotan, who has been waiting impatiently the whole video for this: KENSINGTON!!! *muppet flail*
I love this kind of historical content!!! Just want you to know you are really appreciated and your work doesn’t go unnoticed! I am a re-enactor and I’ll be referring your channel to my guild mates!!
I still have family in Alexandria, Minnesota. It's surprising how many people in the area are ABSOLUTELY convinced the Kensington rock is real - despite the facts! But hey, it's also MAGA territory.
No rune stones where I'm from, but we have a statue of an enormous squirrel and someone wrote "butts" in sharpie on a picnic table, so still cultured I guess.
Swedish immigration to Minnesota occurred between 1850 and 1930, so not hundreds of years. Try 90-170 years. Norwegian immigration largely went on between 1860 and 1920. Well after the viking era, and the Kensington stone wasn't engraved any longer ago than 170 years, though 1890 sounds more like it.
I don’t doubt what you say but I thought the heavner stone was found in the 1890s or 80s. They originally thought it was possibly Choctaw. I may be wrong, it just seems like that’s what I read when I visited the park.
Not related to runes but, if you're unfamiliar with it, google the Ulen sword in Clay County, Minnesota. Not sure why some people are so bent on the whole, "I'm descended from Dark Age pirates," thing but there's all kinds of people out there. I ascribe it, in part, to a general loss of individual culture because of the slowly homogenizing American population. People want to be "different, just like everyone else" which is paradoxical. The other part is because of cultural amnesia endemic in modern society. Look at the so-called "pagan revivals" that happen once a century in just about every country. People need to feel connected to the past in some way however vicarious, reconstructionist, revisionist, rose-tinted or whig it is. I once knew a guy who insisted he spoke fluent "Gothic" dialect. When I asked him how many times he'd read Wulifia's Bible to pull that off he lost his mind. Misspelled High German is so goth, lemme tell you. There are actually rune stones in my area, though. The retaining wall around the old Versailles Cemetery in McKeesport is covered in runes-at least they look like runes to the causal observer. They were makers marks put on the blocks by the stonecutters who were largely illiterate German immigrants who originally settled the area. You needed to prove you cut the stone so you got paid so everyone had his own distinct squiggle. I can't wait until someone who practices Braucherei and goes to Pow-wows notices them and makes a video embarrassing every Pennsylvanian of German descent. Remembering the past is important but it's best to remember it the way it actually was! 😁 As the Volkerwanderung continues into the 21st Century, it's important to remember that trees have roots and man has feet lest we get too caught up in romanticism.
I've never believed any American Rune Stones because it's just really ridiculous. Norse people actually making it to North America sure but they weren't here doing that. Dont hate everything, Jimmy! You're amazing and your videos are great and informative! Keep up the good work! 😁❤
Also, thank you for dumping on the football team 🤣 tied for most Super Bowls played and lost! Pretty sure that’s… a bad thing… I really do appreciate the info tho! I heard of this stone when I was in school. Like just in passing in a middle school class. I’m actually really glad I know it was a tremendous fake now! 🤣 too epic. Again. You are awesome!
I recently took a road trip to all the Menards in west central Minnesota - the shiplap we were using in our attic was discontinued mid-project - and Alexandria MN was one of the stops. While I was there I thought I’d check out the Kennington Runestone museum. It was a utterly charming little museum with a one room school house out back and a 4-H museum in the barn along side a replica Viking ship. Everything you could want from a small town museum. I was however very skeptical of the runestone itself. It’s nice to hear the real history.
Do you have any research on Bindrunes and did the Vikings ever use them? Not talking about the Icelandic variations that cropped up in Medieval Iceland but were they used during the viking age for writing?
“Use the right alphabet is forgery 101!” …Jimmy I need this on a shirt!!!!! I will leave the ruins to the rest of you. It’s October 25 and grandson will need his costume wearable for Friday morning the 29!!
I saw one in Oklahoma. The hiking trails are lovely. I'm disappointed it's origin is suspect.. but you know the people who love them, maintain them, and celebrate there are very enthusiastic. Those of us who find ourselves removed a half a world away from our roots find value in having somewhere to congregate if nothing else. And in a state where there are more churches than apartments it was definitely a nice break to not be the odd man out as a non Christian. (also.. Those cats can party)
now i want to make a fake runestone with a proper alphabet and a proper layout that i would bury somewhere and then when somebody finds it one day and cares to actually translate it, it would say, in a phonetic english "you have just been bamboozled, but never give up, never let down" or some similar nonsense
It would be fun to make fake runes intentionally fake and then put them random like you're supposed to paint a rock and put it someplace we should do that but with fake runes like that says I am fake on it that would be funny.
Im descendant of the Anishinaabe tribe in Quebec Canada and alot of French settlers who came here were from Normandy and married Native women or got adopted into tribes and a lot of Norse myths and folklore has been absorbed into Algonquin legends and stories in the 1600s. That's how long people held on to pagan traditions.
there was a Swedish school class that tried making a fake rune stone and posting it on a trading site (think Swedish eBay) to see how hard it would be to create a fake news story and it worked
I made the terrible (wonderful) mistake(?) of finding your channel while sewing a norse-inspired costume and am now fully down the rabbit hole of (budget-relative) authenticity. What should have been a two-day project has turned into a week+ long endeavour. Thank you and also... curses upon you. I can't sport the 'loose animal skin couture' or look at "true black" in 'historical' media again. Diolch!
Somewhere 1527 Mäster Olaus Petri purchased a house in Stockholm. He had an interest in runes and most likely is the maker of a fake rune-stone where his house was located, with the inscription 'skäggig haka passar icke i dans' (a bearded chin is not appropriate for a dance). It was documented in the 1600s but has been lost later on. So there's fakes and also really old fakes 🙂
@@TheWelshViking There's also a great work with rune-stones with lewd text. If you're interested I'll ask the authors to send you the link cause I lost it changing computers. I think it's a doctorial thesis so it should exist in English.
Same here. Seconded. I'd never have approached these topics otherwise (ETA: Okay, some of them maybe including this one since I did read about the Kensington runestone in a book "The Dead Ends of Archeology" - it's sadly a Czech book, otherwise I'd fully recommend it to fuel further Fake News videos). But somehow the combination of Welsh, history, and righteous historian rage is irresistible. :D
The central problem with the Norse making their way into the Great Lakes area is this: how in the HELL do you expect them to portage a longship around Niagara Falls?
OW. Wow, tearing up, my throat hurts so much now. Started choking on my tea and about died when he said DO ITTT, make Viking runestones the next monolith! 🤣🤣🤣👏👏 I AM HERE FOR THIS, YES. 🍿👍 Don't have all the skills sadly, or resources, but yes!
I study Anglo-Saxon Runes, and I also study Old English language. Do you think I could get away with faking an Anglo-Saxon inscription? No, the Anglo-Saxon were not very adventurous. Their greatest travel story is circumnavigating their own island.
Love how this pretty much turned into "the Do's and Don'ts of runestone forgery"😂
And thanks again for taking this time when you are so busy with all your other stuff. You're always one of the highlights of my week. (I wish I had money so I could become a patreon or something)
A kind word and knowing that my videos are enjoyable for you is 100% more than enough, so thank you! :)
"We lost 10 men and are being pursued through this wild land by an unknown evil. Must make haste to our ships in the inland sea or surely perish. Suddenly realizing that stopping to carve this stone is only the latest in a long series of bad life decisions. We need to take a good long look at--continued on back of stone."
Rofl
Ends with "aaarrrrggh" of course.
It trails off in a scrabbled line
@@richmcgee434
"Aaarrrrggghhh"?
A bit like, "This was the last text message he ever sent me before he wandered off the cliff because he was busy staring at his phone."
We NEED a fake runestone that translates to "Subscribe to The Welsh Viking". It could even be a badge or sticker for merch. I am legitimately upset that I don't have the talent to create one, or the funds to commission it! 😂
Love that
Great idea!
I'm in!
That would be really fun.
Great Idea!!
Jimmy: “I hate everything.”
Me: “can confirm this man is a PhD student”
Jimmy has given us a mission…. We must not disappoint
A runestone thar has modern lyrics on it with interlacing that's imaging Prince's guitar and a drumkit! Make learning runes fun! *grin*
There's a artist on yt over on frog leap studios he does metal covers of all kinds of music. He's from Norway, I wonder if he would know how to do this. I bet he would. His name's Leo.
@@margaretkaraba8161 "Anyway, here's Wonderwall..."
@@margaretkaraba8161 Never gonna give you up?
Build me a runestone worthy of Isengard!
As an American, this is my surprised face. Note its lack of surprise.
Sure, I grant you it's a fake runestone, but tell me you wouldn't watch a movie named, "Valley of the Gnomes!" I might just have to make it because I'm bummed it doesn't exist.
Yes!
Would that be a variation of the valley of the dolls? And add in some horses?
make it part of the Gnomeo and Juliet extended universe
There appear to be at least two places in the US called the Valley of the Gnomes, one in Utah, one in Seattle, Washington. Perhaps a location shoot is in order? :)
@@rach_lazeits the GnomCU
Oh no. As a Nordic who studied art history in the States, I ended up making a rune stone for one of my classes, and absolutely carelessly disregarded it somewhere in Northern Virginia years ago. If anyone finds it... - I take no responsibility! 😂
Yeah, I made a small-ish rune stone once. It said something witty like "Søren is cool". I believe it's somewhere in the garden of my childhood home.
I've done similar in southwest PA but usually in a wholly fictional alphabet like Elvish or Theban so as to make the joke more obvious (and funny) to those in the know. Too many people insisting Vinland was New Jersey.
@@nickaschenbecker9882 You have given me a wonderful idea.
I fully intend to find your rune stone
@@alannatherson7721 Yours will say "welcome to Vinland, New Jersey"
"use the right alphabet is forgery 101"
sounds like it's learned by experience
was teenage jimmy trying to make a fake id and like 'oh no! i've written it in linear a' :S
I mean there has been documents that has been proven forgeries as they used fonts in Microsoft Word, that wasn't invented at the time the document was supposed to have been written.
Fake news from the USA, no really, I'm deeply adn throughly shocked./s In all seriousness I'm really happy that you are tackling what are essentially historical conspiracy theories and more importantly HOW you do so - with the tact and subtlety that history necessitates to prevent rampant ideologised dogmatism. I say this mostly as a reaction to your whole catalogue of videos, not just this one in particular, though yes including this.
"Stop that, Hjörleifur, the skrælings will hear us!"
"You know I always chisel when I'm nervous! How do I do a Þ again?"
SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME LIMESTONE OR IM GOING TO HAVE A PANIC ATTACK
@@j_fenrir😂
I love the idea of Jimmy teaching us Historical Forgery 101: How to not look like a right noob with your fake artifacts :D
That seems to be the main takeaway from a lot of archaeology debunking videos, lol.
"the translator was a presenter of an american tv show-" [every scholar of ancient american cultures shrieks in fear and pain]
The way he zoomed in on the dreaded capital H (which is yellow as to warn what kind of journalism they do on the Hitler & Aliens channel) was priceless.
Thank you for keeping in your technical goofs. It goes to show the process and for those of us who have the patience bonus laughs.
The goofs are very endearing, I really enjoy them.
My favourite modern runestone makes no effort to hide what date it's from, because it depicts a knight taking down a camera drone by hurling a spear at it.
Love that one so much!
Brilliant intro again. Love my history, even fake history, with a bit of a laugh. Here, in Detroit, Michigan, there have always been stories of Vikings on the Great Lakes. Along with an actual settlement, that unfortunately (surprise surprise) disappeared under the water, never to be seen again. Very convenient! 😆 We do have some nice, and real, petroglyphs made by indiginous people, though. Definitely worth seeing. Thanks for the vid!
Also live in Michigan lol
Also live in Michigan, those petroglyphs are cool as hell
@@eazy8579 They really are cool!
@@whoahanant Greetings fellow Michigander! Small world, eh?
Lol, it's a wonder they find room, due to all the Egyptians, Minoans, and Phoenicians that some people over there believe had outposts and copper mines in the Great Lakes. 🤦😂
I found it hilarious, a guy "on the run from natives", producing a hammer and a chisel and bashing into a rock while hiding.... really? I love this channel and thanks for tackling this.
This reminded me of this bit from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
There! Look!
What does it say? What language is that?
Brother Maynard, you're our scholar.
It is Aramaic!
Of course. Joseph of Arimathea!
-Of course.
-What does it say?
It reads, "Here may be found...
"...the last words of Joseph of Arimathea:
"'He who is valiant and pure of spirit...
"'...may find the Holy Grail...
"'...in the Castle of Aaargh."'
What?
"The Castle of Aaargh."
What is that?
He must have died while carving it.
-Come on!
-That's what it says.
Look, if he was dying,
he wouldn't bother to carve "Aaargh."
-He'd just say it.
-That's what's carved in the rock.
-Perhaps he was dictating it.
-Shut up!
-Does it say anything else?
-No!
Just "Aaargh."
They apparently have a carved stone from that lost colony in Virginia, carved by a woman after she survived a massacre and while in hiding she carved, badly, this whole perfectly grammatically correct long paragraph. All to say what I just wrote with of course no real details or directions. Sure...
@@lenabreijer1311 I'm just saying, the translation may not be directly " in hiding" or " running" they could be being harassed and slowly killed off and they know they won't win so they keep moving camp trying to make their way out
@@jhtsurvival lol people who are slowly harassed and moving around are not hauling a big rock just in case they lose. People who are treated that way just keep hoping and moving even if they have to do it on a leaky boat across the Mediterranean. They don't haul a rock around to keep a diary of their problems. Also chissling a rock makes lots of odd noise. Your hunter is not going to go "oh listen there goes that woodpecker hitting rocks again, what a stupid bird!"
The fighting Swedes with the horns scratched off was just the topper to this video. Lol!! Thanks Jimmy!
As an Icelandic American with sizable knowledge of runes and old norse language living in the Midwestern US:
1. I am deeply sorry for these "runestones"
2. I have a sudden urge to make a trans rights runestone in accurate 12th century Icelandic.
:D okay, you made my day. Pls do this btw haha
You would be able to make that "subscribe to the Welsh Viking" runestone that someone suggested? It would be perfect merch❤ (but no pressure ofc). Though I get that the trans rights one would be first priority.
Do it!
Do it!
Do ir
"Put a dragon on it" is always good advice.
Anyway I hadn't heard of any of these and it's wild
The Welsh Viking, defending truth, justice, and archeology! Immigrant Scandinavian/hippie grafitti.
I want to make one with an accurate date. Something like, "this stone was carved in 2022 common era and if you thought it was an authentic medieval carving in Kansas then you've been fooled."
Lmao! Go for it! That sounds awesome
This video awakened the memory that I'd just forgotten of itty bitty Faye obsessed with dragons using the runes I'd learned from the dragonology book to "translate" the fake Oklahoma runestone. I'm not surprised it's fake nowadays, but it is a really cute story at least
edit: okay, I grew up not far from the Mustang mountains, and how have I NOT heard about the Mustang runestone??? I was definitely still in the depths of weird dragon history kid when it was found.
Hahahaha I had the same book XD
@@bonelace111 that book is a rite of passage for every weird dragon kid
*hugs from Texas* I love seeing pseudo archeology taken down while I work on my RenFest Captain America Costume!
RenFest Cap? That sounds pretty cool!
Ooooh nice! Did you think about 1616 cap as well?
@@mzgreenjeansapproves honestly it’s kinda of a mishmash of what I can find/make as I can afford to. The crown jewel is my 75th anniversary replica shield which I wear on a custom harness. I’m working on duding up some shoulder gambison that I ordered the wrong color on the cheap
@@JasTheMadTexan that sounds lovely! I adore creativity!
Snort. That Minnesota stone is a joke around here. The Minnesota Vikings are as well. Maybe they would play better if they were the Minnesota Swedes..
Yes, I am a Minnesota resident. Didn't know about the other stones. Makes me chuckle every times I see the blonde dude in the Victorian helmet.
Oh well, as my Dad says, life gets teejious, don't it.
Thank you for another lovely video. Was stoked to see you on a costume collab recently. Take care.
It's even funnier when you realize that across the pond where Jimmy lives, swedes are rutabagas.
@@sonipitts that is so awesome 👌
The “Minnesota Viking” mascot with the Horned Helmet is very un-Viking like.
That is just a bad copy of an old Costume Concept from a German Wagnerian Ring Cycle Opera in the late 1880’s and has nothing to do with Vikings.
@@Aswaguespack Exactly
@@Aswaguespack So yeah. A rutabaga in an opera costume. 🤣
As someone from Minnesota I was wondering when the Kensington Runestone would come up. (I didn't read the video description until after I'd watched the video.) My mother even brought me when I was younger to see the runestone on a trip. It was a very small museum filled with real artifacts surrounding the runestone (because it's obviously real 😉). I will not support the Vikings NFL team because the logo has a horned helmet. (In all seriousness, my dad is an avid supporter of the vikings and I just don't understand the appeal of any version of sportball.) Thanks for the video. It was fun to watch.
way ahead of you. my local SCA group has a runestone in the cellar and it looks pretty nice (I doubt we'll ever move it out to a hill somewhere, the thing is Heavy even as small as it is)
There's a lovely modern runestone in a park in the middle of Tokyo that I think was given to the city in honor of a joint Japanese/Swedish expedition to the antarctic. It took me by surprise and I had to get pictures of it. Definitely the oddest thing I saw while I was there.
Speaking of Vikings in North America (the real ones, this time), have you seen the article from _Nature_ (dated 20 Oct., 2021) that proposes a new *specific* date for the L’Anse aux Meadows settlement site? The TH-cam Channel SciShow mentioned it as the second item in their most recent "News" video, and they link to the _Nature_ article in their video description (The first item in that video is news about the genetics of the domesticated horse, so a cute picture of a foal is in the thumbnail).
Jimmy: "Put a dragon on it."
Me: Mentally rewrites the Portlandia bird skit to be dragons instead.
If it rests your mind at all, speaking as a Minnesotan, almost everyone knows the Kensington runestone is a fake. However, it's housed in a small town with absolutely no other claim to fame, so they continue wasting tax dollars making it part of a low-rent roadside attraction. The small minority who still insist it's real tend to be of the... ehem... Folkish variety.
Folkish or Völkisch?
@@johannageisel5390 it kind of means the same thing on this side. Guys with shaven heads and old tattoos from 75 years ago.
@@lenabreijer1311 Ah, ok. I think I mixed it up with "folksy", which is different.
I didn't quite know what "folkish" meant.
@@johannageisel5390 Yeah, same thing in this context. Folkish is used a lot these days due to the Asatru Folk Assembly, which is really just a modern day Volkisch group. They're referred to as either Folkish or neo-Volkisch. 🙂
Would a small American town with little economic activity be tempted to develop a myth into a “legend” in order to tap into the Tourism Industry? I’m sure it’s been done quite a few times.
Well now I really want to fake a runestone in my yard and kickstart the academic recognition of Viking-Taíno relations. "I am Snorri and I am carving this runestone under a palm tree while my wife Anacaona weaves next to me."
I really want to make a runestone now that says 'þú ert fáviti' just to see someone find it and actually act like the idiot I just told them they are (couldn't be bothered to make it more old Icelandic with this migraine but why should I 😄)
It's a miracle that there aren't more forger who trained as archaeologists or historians ;) You know how it should be done.
Is it some kind of work ethos that you just can't bring yourself to forge some nice historical document? Or are you just so good that you are not found out ;) (Just kidding, don't take it too serious)
Just pure sloth!
Personally, I actually had the urge to throw my 16th century Lithuanian coin into the excavation ditches during the field week to bamboozle everyone, since why exactly would there be a 16th century Lithuanian coin at a medieval site in Ireland? Unfortunately, greed and pesky ethics got in the way.
Maybe there are skilled archaeological fraudsters, and, they are so good, that we just don't know. 🤔
I know of someone who has claimed to create a reasonable fake item as a bet with his local vicar to see if it was identified as fake. Apparently it passed but the vicar owned up later.
Brb, gotta make a fake runestone.
I'm a Minnesotan of (mostly) Scandinavian decent. The Kensington stone was revealed as a fake many years ago. I'm not sad about that. Thanks for the enlightening video.
As a Minnesotan I wish the runestones and tales of Vikings coming to Minnesota where true but I gotta come to terms with reality that they aren’t and the other Minnesota Vikings won’t win the super bowl
I recently took a road trip to all the Menards in west central Minnesota - the shiplap we were using in our attic was discontinued mid-project - and Alexandria MN was one of the stops. While I was there I thought I’d check out the Kennington Runestone museum. It was a truly charming museum with a one room school house out back and a 4-H museum in the barn along side a replica Viking ship. Everything you could want from a small town museum. I was however very skeptical of the runestone itself. Nice to hear the real history.
I’m from Minnesota, and figured it was fake. I just wished it wasn’t. Incidentally, the Triceratops in our Science Museum is named Fafnir.
I actually knew a professor who did stuff involving old Norse and German… I remember reading some of his articles, and one of them was on the “Kansas City rune stone” and basically long story short his article was like: Yeah, this is from the 19th century…. Because it had a date that literally said 1840 or something along those lines.
Viking reenacted at Heavener two weeks ago :) Lovely mountain and park. Nice place to camp and play. Don't deny the validity of the stone within hearing of any of the locals!
"Do it, DO IT! and if it nets you money, give me a cut" GO, JIMMY, GO!
Here's hoping life gets easier for you and yours, soonest.
I was so entranced by Editing Jimmy's comments and overlays that I had to rewatch the intro and pay attention to what Speaking Jimmy was saying.
Also, please check me on the steps to Making a good Viking runestone forgery!
Step 1: find geologically appropriate stone, pleased at how you're really gonna fool people now.
Step 2: research actual runestones (as counseled by Jimmy).
Step 3: practice the younger, more spry alphabet; graphic design; mustached Viking iconography.
Step 4: show a number of different designs to friends, swearing them to secrecy over something they probably don't get.
Step 5: toss out some designs for being too silly, others for being too academic and stodgy.
Step 5.a. research whether Scandanavians understood 'stodgy' as a concept, or find cultural equivalent.
Step 5.b: reconsider earlier designs ruled out for being too English stodgy and determine if they're actually too [Scandanavian equivalent].
Step 6: choose a final design you liked from the beginning that's a bit historical and cheeky at the same time, and consider using modern techniques to engrave.
Step 7: rule out modern techniques (even though laser etching which would be SO COOL) and learn how to chisel using age appropriate tools.
Years later...
Step 8: start chiseling forgery in stone which has by now weathered a bit since you first bought it.
Step 9: mess up, throw away, buy more stone (repeat as many times as needed)
Step 10: finish a runestone that's halfway decent, beam with reluctant pride and bruised ego at this 'not gonna do another one' final forgery.
Step 11: research a place to bury it.
Step 12: realize this stone is too damn heavy (maybe you went too far with accuracy), decide to bury it where it sits in your backyard (how did it get there in the first place, you now wonder?!)
Step 13: hide all of your tools, break up all previous bad copies with a sledgehammer, wipe your internet search history.
Step 14: call the press!
Step 15: ... profit, somehow, but as agreed, giving Jimmy a cut.
I watched a History Channel "documentary" back in like 2007 that claimed the Kengsington runestone was created by a band of Templars, who had fled to...Minnesota. Because, you see, Templars liked to use runes as a secret form of communication, especially when being persecuted by...people who were doing that. And, credit where credit's due, this was a creative way of getting around the "this doesn't make any sense as a Viking runestone" problem. It did this by introducing about 15 entirely new problems, but hey, whatever.
I wonder about the gibberish rune stones in the places where Scandinavian settlers were, not that I think they would be genuine, but did the Scandinavian settlers create them for some specific purpose? Did we stumble across someone's 200 year old practical jokes? I would love to be a fly on the wall when they were being carved
I was thinking this, too. I’m envisioning either kids sneaking off with a book that had pictures of runes and making the carvings while pretending to be Vikings, or a group of men who got drunk one night and thought it’d be a fun thing to do and kept going back and adding more once they sobered up because it was winter and they were bored.
Largely it's the same reason kids in junior high insist they know witchcraft. They want to be interesting. But it might also be because they want it to seem like they have some greater claim to the land than the WASPs or the Native Americans the WASPs initially stole the land from. But that 2nd idea might be thinking too far into it. It would be nice if they WERE practical jokes or inside jokes made with no intent to deceive but people who "find" this crap are way too vehement about its pedigree.
I think it could be a great dad-hoax to mess with people
Invest in runestones today! They'll only go up in value!
Editing Jimmy sure sounds an awful lot like video Jimmy… God, they can’t surely be one and the same?! 😆
As a Minnesotan I'm always glad for explanations of how the Kensington Runestone is proven fake. Jackson Crawford also presented a really good video on it. I grew up with the local mythology. It's a testament, I suppose, to both our desire for a tangible connection to our roots and our very human love of myth in general.
Oh, and Scott Wolter is one of ours, too. He's entertaining. Bonus fact; there are way more people of German descent in Minnesota than all our Scandinavians combined. Wolter himself would be one unless he was named through some other means. Go far back enough in history and you'll find the point where it doesn't really matter anyway.
You have to understand, Americans need to create our own myths. At least non-Native Americans. What ever we might have inherited from our ancestors has long, long been mixed, mingled, evolved, devolved and lost in vast blending of immigration and time. Sadly, with modern science, there's no more hope of establishing any sort of real mythology of our own. Paul Bunyan and Babe his blue ox... a whole boatload of myths about our own history... But... Öhman tried. We're doing the best we can over here!
There's an ancient runestone in my city of Coeur d'alene Idaho. The stone is ancient but not the writing on it. I know this because I put it there, and when translated it says,"Cameron was here".
New life goal: make a fake runestone Jimmy respects.
Also, poplar trees (a general term for aspens and cottonwoods, all of the *Populus* genus) have very short lifespans, by tree standards. For reference, while some species of maple or oak can reach 3-400 years in age, a poplar would be extraordinarily lucky to exceed 100. If the tree had been present in 1362, there is only a moderate chance of that tree surviving into the 15th century, and no chance whatsoever of that tree reaching the year 1500.
Poplars often establish clonal colonies so that could account for some ambiguity, but... uh. Oof.
The beginning of this video reminds me of my zoom class when there's always one person that forgets to unmute and the tutor keeps telling them to unmute. Also now I feel like a challenge has been issued to make a really believable fake rune stone.
I seriously adore the amount of chaotic energy and learning this video provides. 10/10 yay debunk bad info!
Thank you - the postcards are really pretty - and I loved Editing Jimmy's narration - Plus look after yourself please - self care is important
Thanks for all of the crime tips!
Just kidding, great video, very funny how many of these things are out there.
I actually have a question that you might be able to do a video about. What is the idea behind the anount of saliva in some of the Norse mythology I've read about. Like the Kvasir story. But I think I've seen more references on people spitting in a big cauldron but I just can't remember where... Is that an original thing? Or a modern invention?
The Mead of Kevin? Great stuff! (What, doesn't anyone read Riordan?)
Editing Jimmy is a hoot!
I was very disappointed to learn that the Mustang roonstone didn't say "Eat at Joe's".
As for the Kensington one, wasn't it a thing in the Victorian era to create fakes to try to bamboozle their friends?
Hey, Jimmy! Want a fake roonstone in the Seattle area? 😈
There's one in NSW, Australia! It's in one of Tolkien's scripts
You have very quickly become one of my favourite TH-camrs. I love History, and, as anybody who watched Indiana Jones, and reading old national geographics from a young age, I am interested in archeology, though I want to study History and Literatur
why do people even want to claim the runestones are historic anyway? Like of you want a cool rock in ur garden you don’t have to pretend a viking carved it
If a Viking runestone pops up in northern California, it wasn't me. Just saying. Totally plausible for them to have reached a Pacific bay.
I now want an authentic-looking runestone that says "my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard"
I’ve just been told a number of ridiculous tin foil stories by a US dude (a Minnesota guy)about this Kensington stone and the Norse Viking Swedes Scandinavians that supposedly lived in Minnesota using runes during medieval times bla bla bla and I apparently have a narrow minded attitude because I corrected him.
I’m Swedish and we like facts and science and without evidence, it didn’t happen 🤣
Now I’m going to clean my medieval rune stone.
I borrowed tools from a history teacher and made a rune stone for a family friend. It's still in their flower-border 😅
I watched you do a bit of archery in another video today. it had played on from the previous video. I wasn't really paying attention, then I heard your distinguishable voice. You are not bad at archery by the way.
The Squirrels were laughing...
Heavener is actually pronounced HEEV-ner, not HEV-ah-ner.
The 'Terrible Swedes' is the common nickname for the athletic teams of Bethany College in Lindsborg, Kansas. They use stylised Viking as their emblem, but no horns on his helmet, unlike the Minnesota Vikings. Lindsborg is a heavily Swedish community, but I don't know of any runestones found in the area. LOL!
"Now we're going to look at the Kensington runestone..."
Me, a Minnesotan, who has been waiting impatiently the whole video for this: KENSINGTON!!! *muppet flail*
I love this kind of historical content!!! Just want you to know you are really appreciated and your work doesn’t go unnoticed!
I am a re-enactor and I’ll be referring your channel to my guild mates!!
I still have family in Alexandria, Minnesota. It's surprising how many people in the area are ABSOLUTELY convinced the Kensington rock is real - despite the facts! But hey, it's also MAGA territory.
No rune stones where I'm from, but we have a statue of an enormous squirrel and someone wrote "butts" in sharpie on a picnic table, so still cultured I guess.
Swedish immigration to Minnesota occurred between 1850 and 1930, so not hundreds of years. Try 90-170 years. Norwegian immigration largely went on between 1860 and 1920.
Well after the viking era, and the Kensington stone wasn't engraved any longer ago than 170 years, though 1890 sounds more like it.
I don’t doubt what you say but I thought the heavner stone was found in the 1890s or 80s. They originally thought it was possibly Choctaw. I may be wrong, it just seems like that’s what I read when I visited the park.
Not related to runes but, if you're unfamiliar with it, google the Ulen sword in Clay County, Minnesota. Not sure why some people are so bent on the whole, "I'm descended from Dark Age pirates," thing but there's all kinds of people out there. I ascribe it, in part, to a general loss of individual culture because of the slowly homogenizing American population. People want to be "different, just like everyone else" which is paradoxical. The other part is because of cultural amnesia endemic in modern society. Look at the so-called "pagan revivals" that happen once a century in just about every country. People need to feel connected to the past in some way however vicarious, reconstructionist, revisionist, rose-tinted or whig it is. I once knew a guy who insisted he spoke fluent "Gothic" dialect. When I asked him how many times he'd read Wulifia's Bible to pull that off he lost his mind. Misspelled High German is so goth, lemme tell you. There are actually rune stones in my area, though. The retaining wall around the old Versailles Cemetery in McKeesport is covered in runes-at least they look like runes to the causal observer. They were makers marks put on the blocks by the stonecutters who were largely illiterate German immigrants who originally settled the area. You needed to prove you cut the stone so you got paid so everyone had his own distinct squiggle. I can't wait until someone who practices Braucherei and goes to Pow-wows notices them and makes a video embarrassing every Pennsylvanian of German descent. Remembering the past is important but it's best to remember it the way it actually was! 😁 As the Volkerwanderung continues into the 21st Century, it's important to remember that trees have roots and man has feet lest we get too caught up in romanticism.
I've never believed any American Rune Stones because it's just really ridiculous. Norse people actually making it to North America sure but they weren't here doing that. Dont hate everything, Jimmy! You're amazing and your videos are great and informative! Keep up the good work! 😁❤
Also, thank you for dumping on the football team 🤣 tied for most Super Bowls played and lost! Pretty sure that’s… a bad thing… I really do appreciate the info tho! I heard of this stone when I was in school. Like just in passing in a middle school class. I’m actually really glad I know it was a tremendous fake now! 🤣 too epic. Again. You are awesome!
I recently took a road trip to all the Menards in west central Minnesota - the shiplap we were using in our attic was discontinued mid-project - and Alexandria MN was one of the stops. While I was there I thought I’d check out the Kennington Runestone museum. It was a utterly charming little museum with a one room school house out back and a 4-H museum in the barn along side a replica Viking ship. Everything you could want from a small town museum. I was however very skeptical of the runestone itself. It’s nice to hear the real history.
"I Narvi carved them" should have been a bit of a hint.
Do you have any research on Bindrunes and did the Vikings ever use them? Not talking about the Icelandic variations that cropped up in Medieval Iceland but were they used during the viking age for writing?
“Use the right alphabet is forgery 101!”
…Jimmy
I need this on a shirt!!!!!
I will leave the ruins to the rest of you. It’s October 25 and grandson will need his costume wearable for Friday morning the 29!!
I saw one in Oklahoma. The hiking trails are lovely. I'm disappointed it's origin is suspect.. but you know the people who love them, maintain them, and celebrate there are very enthusiastic. Those of us who find ourselves removed a half a world away from our roots find value in having somewhere to congregate if nothing else. And in a state where there are more churches than apartments it was definitely a nice break to not be the odd man out as a non Christian. (also.. Those cats can party)
Get some rest dude. You look tired (tho I have to admit to loving the "technical difficulties"....I'm easily amused lo!)
11:58 Little bit of non-viking trivia, "I f*** your bread" is common curse among Slavs on Balkan peninsula
It's a mix of numbers and letters that sounds like gibberish, but hey, maybe it's a viking barcode!
now i want to make a fake runestone with a proper alphabet and a proper layout that i would bury somewhere and then when somebody finds it one day and cares to actually translate it, it would say, in a phonetic english "you have just been bamboozled, but never give up, never let down" or some similar nonsense
It would be fun to make fake runes intentionally fake and then put them random like you're supposed to paint a rock and put it someplace we should do that but with fake runes like that says I am fake on it that would be funny.
How were so many of these so poorly researched? I put more effort into forging my mom's signature for school stuff.
Im descendant of the Anishinaabe tribe in Quebec Canada and alot of French settlers who came here were from Normandy and married Native women or got adopted into tribes and a lot of Norse myths and folklore has been absorbed into Algonquin legends and stories in the 1600s. That's how long people held on to pagan traditions.
there was a Swedish school class that tried making a fake rune stone and posting it on a trading site (think Swedish eBay) to see how hard it would be to create a fake news story and it worked
I made the terrible (wonderful) mistake(?) of finding your channel while sewing a norse-inspired costume and am now fully down the rabbit hole of (budget-relative) authenticity. What should have been a two-day project has turned into a week+ long endeavour. Thank you and also... curses upon you. I can't sport the 'loose animal skin couture' or look at "true black" in 'historical' media again. Diolch!
Somewhere 1527 Mäster Olaus Petri purchased a house in Stockholm. He had an interest in runes and most likely is the maker of a fake rune-stone where his house was located, with the inscription 'skäggig haka passar icke i dans' (a bearded chin is not appropriate for a dance). It was documented in the 1600s but has been lost later on. So there's fakes and also really old fakes 🙂
Amazing- love this!
@@TheWelshViking There's also a great work with rune-stones with lewd text. If you're interested I'll ask the authors to send you the link cause I lost it changing computers. I think it's a doctorial thesis so it should exist in English.
Also... how long do poplar trees live?? (Yes I used to be married to a tree nerd). :)
I want to make fake runestones that say "I am very lost" and drop them in the forests now 😂
Not only is elder the wrong alphabet but the correct one, younger is easier to carve.
Jimmy, would u someday make a video about runes through the years?
I recently discovered your channel via a video you did with Bernadette Banner, and I’m loving it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Same here. Seconded. I'd never have approached these topics otherwise (ETA: Okay, some of them maybe including this one since I did read about the Kensington runestone in a book "The Dead Ends of Archeology" - it's sadly a Czech book, otherwise I'd fully recommend it to fuel further Fake News videos). But somehow the combination of Welsh, history, and righteous historian rage is irresistible. :D
The central problem with the Norse making their way into the Great Lakes area is this: how in the HELL do you expect them to portage a longship around Niagara Falls?
this almost inspires me to do research and make a better fake
OW. Wow, tearing up, my throat hurts so much now. Started choking on my tea and about died when he said DO ITTT, make Viking runestones the next monolith! 🤣🤣🤣👏👏
I AM HERE FOR THIS, YES. 🍿👍
Don't have all the skills sadly, or resources, but yes!
Oh, ya, sure - Norwegians and Finns up North in Minnesota, and Germans and Swedes down south (of I94 split).
Catching up on your videos. Thank you for the fascinating company during my peasant jewelry job.
I study Anglo-Saxon Runes, and I also study Old English language. Do you think I could get away with faking an Anglo-Saxon inscription? No, the Anglo-Saxon were not very adventurous. Their greatest travel story is circumnavigating their own island.
Do it!
Would be interested to hear about the (likely fake) Narragansett Runestone
Oh I forgot that one. Yeah, it's fully fake.
Naming them the Fighting 'Rutabagas' works for me...