The Vikings and White Supremacy
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- The Vikings and Norse culture have been appropriated by nationalists and white supremacists for years, but where did the twisted idea come from that the Vikings themselves held these racist and anti-Semitic beliefs? One place it definitely doesn't come from is the Viking Age itself!
This video digs a little way into the absolutely crazy history of Vikings and Romantic Nationalism, cultural appropriation, and white supremacy.
Strap in. It gets weird.
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J. R. R. Tolkien was proud of his German heritage but despised the Nazis calling Hitler a "bloody ignoramus." When asked by a German publisher if he was "Aryan" he said that he wasn't Indian.
And said he’d have been proud to be Jewish! Legend.
He seems to have been an absolute legend!
Fun fact, he was very disappointed with the Swedish translation of LOTR (although there's a newer one that is more accurate nowadays)
@@scouttyra Now I didn't know that! Out of interest, do you know what was so disappointing to him?
@@TheWelshViking iirc it was kind of abridged, had changed names, and had other details changed
@@TheWelshViking I mean the dude was a hardcore language nerd who came up with Middle Earth as a side hobby to explain his made up conlangs. I for one would be terrified of doing a worthy translation of his work, even if I weren't hopeless at languages.
Even today I feel his ghost would appear and offer corrections if anyone messed up :D
My viking reenactor group have had some runins with neo-nazis who had suddenly turned up, hoping to find some fellow nationalists. We have now established an exact code of conduct for those occasions: We all turn our backs and ignore them at any cost. If they try to move further into our camp, we make a wall of turned backs. They are not welcome, but they are not worth our violence, either. Our fists are reserved for fighting each other, in trust and friendship. :)
I love this! 😁
Human shield wall.
that's the tactic people, namely Jewish groups, took against George Lincoln Rockwell father of American Neo nazis. They would use silent treatment and quarantine him, denying him the headlines he wanted for recruitment (no different than modern alt-right). It was effective for the most part
stay based, kings
Bravo!
"The Chinese don't have any culture" Me watching during the Chinese New Year before taking a sip of my tea: Ok
Yikes
Right?!
@@TheWelshViking Wonderful video btw. So glad your channel was recommended.
True, but you must appreciate some Chinese waiters are very rude to non-Chinese. Which is why I prefer sushi.
@@Master_Blackthorne This is what your 6th grade English teacher would call... "Off topic"
@@analogrhymes And this is what YOUR 6th grade English Teacher would call being a smart aleck before sending you to the principal's office.
In the words of Tolkien,.' Welsh is of the soil, this island, the senior language of the men of Britain, and Welsh is beautiful . Tolkien drew heavily on ancient indigenous history and mythology when writing Lord of the rings.
Tolkien also based many of his LotR characters on names found in Norse mythology, just one example, Gandalf is an 'Alf' mentioned early on in both Poetic and Prose Eddas. Alfs have traditionally been translated as dwarfs, just as others have been called giants, in order to make distinctions between races other than humans within the Old Norse belief system.
@@renata_of_the_craft iirc Gandalf has a lot of similarotoes with Odin thematically.
One of the Elven languages--Quenya or Sindarin; I forget which--was based on Welsh (the other on Finnish).
Fun fact - in the early drafts of The Hobbit the chief dwarf was called Gandalf and the wizard was called Bladorthin. This did not change until he got his characters to Laketown.
Definitely a few “Viking” youtubers that need to see this 👀👀👀
The. Golden. One.
@@johannageisel5390 yes and his pal, who is a little more crypto and took me a few videos to figure out his agenda.
@Scott Johnston I hope you get replaced soon.
@Scott Johnston Having a couple more children than somebody else is not ethnical cleansing.
@james mclean As I already told your buddy (or your second account):
Genetically, we're all just Neanderthals and Homo sapiens hunter-gatherers from Africa, mixed with East Anatolian farmers and animal herders from the Pontic Steppe (that's north of the Black and Caspian seas).
So, why freak out about some more genes being thrown into the mix?
Or are you unsatisfied with not being a purebred Neanderthal anymore?
So I’m really glad to see this, being interested in Ancient Germanic and Celtic cultures, I came across another channel awhile back, it was interesting at first, then I started noticing weird little insinuations and implications being thrown in that seemed irrelevant to the subject matter..... so your channel is such a relief!
I bet I know which channel you are talking about. I watched a bunch of his videos but those weird little insinuations...Ja, pretty gross.
@@Tina06019 very telling that I also am pretty sure I know which channel is being referred to. I'd be willing to bet I know who we all mean. So either that channel is as outrageous as i slowly discovered it to be OR there are loads of these channels around lol
Sadly, both distinct possibilities.
@@obcl8569 @obcl - yes, it was a disturbing shock when I realized what that other guy was really all about. My own ethnic background is northwestern European, British and Scandinavian, and I find that history interesting (not surprisingly). So nice to find Jimmy’s channel, where I can truly enjoy the content.
@@Tina06019 who?
Survive the Jive?
Those guys from Germany reminds me of that one kid that we all had in middle school, just replace Wagner with Naruto and Germany with Japan
What a bunch of Weebs
Oh, he was absolutely a Germanic weeaboo :D
Germaboo?
@@DoinItforNewCommTech Ragnarookies
🤣🤣😂😂
DeutscheBoo
@@DoinItforNewCommTech naaah there's a 90% chance those people are Wehraboo beside wanting to be from nordic desandance also believe in the military superiority of the Wehrmacht lol
in an archeological vikingage site in sweden they found one irish bishopsstaffs head, an indian buddha statuette and arab diram coins. in fact there has been found more 10th century diram coins in sweden from the bagdad caliphate than in all of the arabian peninsula. And there has been found Native american genoma on iceland from the origins of a woman living in the 10th century. they traded and married and took cultural inspiration from everywhere, as long as they could trade with people.
Evidence? Sure! www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2688-8
The Irish bishop's staff is extremely predictable though. Where else could such an object come from
Quite a bit of that trade was slavery though, which takes some of the lustre of their achievements.
@@BigMrFirebird And is also proof of a more mixed heritage than many people, including some commenting here, wish to acknowledge.
@@finnwraith5319 you're an American that cosplays as a Finnish person only to go around spewing convoluted, made up, ahistorical garbage. It's no surprise you can't accept reality.
Oh look, you just covered 70% of my MA Thesis. Thanks for that.
If everyone had my taste in music, Jimmy's viking song would be charting.
Absolute banger
"Viking sandwich everyday" is a certified bop! ✨💃🏾🕺🏻
I've heard at least one Viking anthropologist give the opinion that the Vikings thought much more in terms of status, wealth, honor, reputation, etc. It's believed they considered the Inuit to be "wretched" because they had no silver or gold, wore leather waterproofed with animal grease (at least when at sea), and had small hide boats. They had nothing the Vikings considered wealth. So they were "wretched" in the sense that an orphan in White Chapel would be considered wretched by some Victorian toff.
The vikings were brutal pirates from countries with a strict caste society. There was an entire slave class. Racist though? Not so much.
The song at the end is what I'm here for.
But also, crushing nazi illusions. That too.
@peter johnston David Coleman is a piece of shit eugenicist. And also: why is his "prediction" a problem? Seriously, explain to me why being an ethnic minority is a problem.
@peter johnston Want to explain to us *in detail* why that would be a bad thing? You'll do just such a marvelous job of proving Jimmy's point.
I'll wait.
@peter johnston Genetically, we're all just Neanderthals and Homo sapiens hunter-gatherers from Africa, mixed with East Anatolian farmers and animal herders from the Pontic Steppe (that's north of the Black and Caspian seas).
So, why freak out about some more genes being thrown into the mix?
Or are you unsatisfied with not being a purebred Neanderthal anymore?
@Italo-Celtic Oh, yeah, that's right. Actually, Middle and West Europeans are even more mixed and have everything in their genes that has come from the East and South between antiquity and today. Europe really became a shithole due to all those immigrants. I mean, just look how bad we're doing compared to all the other continents.
@Italo-Celtic SnappyDragon does belong to an ethnic minority that is "resented" by a lot of people as you so eloquently put it.
And did you seriously just say that you wouldn't want to be an ethnic minority because they're discriminated against?
*Who do you think is discriminating against them?*
That's like saying "I don't want to be stung by bees because it looks really awful for the people I threw beehives onto."
I lived with some friends who were highly intelligent. They spoke 3 languages each, and they were still under the impression that vikings equal nazi. It is up to all of us to make sure our heritage is not condemned for what some idiots did. Love your videos. Thanks
what you mean is they were educated as in they went to school for along time, that does not mean they were intelligent at all, sorry to say, if they were intelligent they would have investigated the claim before speaking nonsense that they copied from social media
I kept thinking of those old exotic animal drawings that were hilariously inaccurate because they were made by people who had never set foot anywhere near those animals and were drawing them based on vague descriptions and hearsay. And then if someone took those outdated drawings and put them together in "The Definitive Book of Animals", that people keep referring to, taking its drawings as truth even though new, more accurate knowledge about these animals has been discovered and continues to be discovered.
Wonderful video. Amazing work. Thank you for making it.
I could watch you call out Nazis and racist for hours
Oho! A dangerous suggestion ;)
A video looking at dumb white supremacist merch and calling out their incorrect use of runes would be fun.
Cultural Marxist detected
I'm not sure I could bear much more of it, just because of all the ugly, but I have to confess, I periodically return to this video for the good feels of catharsis.
I'm Czech, I grew up with the shadow of that history hanging over a lot of things. Lots drilled into us in school. Very very depressing books you had to read. Listening to Holocaust survivors in person. Family rumours that great-grandfather may have successfuly hidden a Jewish ancestry (vaguely supported by the fact one of my uncles got repeatedly mistaken for a local on business trips to Israel). Having the roots of that ideaology mercilessly mocked and torn into shreds is, I'm finding out, exactly the right kind of antidote if you're not actually a victim of something but have had the shadow of it looming over you your whole life.
@@TheWelshViking Could you do a video on D.P Moran. I feel he was also a founding father of modern ethno nationalism. While he admired Douglas Hyde’s work (Douglas Hyde was an Irish speaker and writer) he openly stated only Catholics could be considered Irish meaning Irish protestants and Jews and nowadays Hindus,Buddhists, Sikh’s and Muslims as well. I feel he inspires a lot of the shite John Waters and Gemma O’ Doherty and Co spout. He also railed against Jazz music and international sports.
Alternative title: Jimmy rants about a bunch of mega losers for 20 minutes
I think that the correct term is, "MEGA LOSERS!!!!" :D
Aristotle and brothers Grimm are mega losers? wow you wokesters have lost your minds
@@anonaccount3027 define 'wokesters.' that's a bastardization of the term I haven't heard yet. Can you find me the definition for that? I'm very curious about who invented it.
I did some of the post-excavation work on one of the Norse settlements in Greenland for my Master Thesis, and I was lucky enough to be involved with a TV documentary series (sadly my speaking parts were cut for 700 year old dead pubic lice, which not many people can say). A while ago I foolishly looked up the documentary on TH-cam and foolishly looked in the comment section...oh my God! The work essentially postulated that the Norse failed to adapt to the Little Ice Age which led to the loss of the settlement. As the contemporary Inuit settlements did survive, this triggered the White Supremacists who desperately were trying to debunk the data (as if Carbon 13 isotope analysis cares about ethnicity). My particular favourite was that we were all dubbed as left-wing liberal trying to do down the superior Norse - I had to laugh as some of the team's political views were somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan in some areas!
mummified pubic lice...?? just goes to show us that in the end, Norse or otherwise, the bugs will survive us all.
Hollywood doesn't make things easier with there depictions of Vikings or even other germanic tribes. Just look at the depictiction of the Saxons in the Clive Owen King Arthur movie.
I wish films would be more nuanced. That would make me appreciate the art of cinema more.
Sooo... my mom is a story-teller in Germany and has done a lot of research on the Brother's Grimm.
Very important: They were story collectors!!! Not writers! There's a big difference between "Kunstmärchen" (no proper translation, means basically intentionally written and published fairy tales) and oral tradition fairy tales!
The two famous brother Grimm's were were linguists and started a dictionary (only getting to the letter D), and they collected stories, they did not write them. Some of their most influencial informants were women and children they knew (The one I remember was a like 11 year old girl named "Malchen Schnipp dich" - Mellie blow your nose - who really liked horror stories).
The first couple editions of the Brother Grimm fairytales are really odd, there are so many "Gruselmärchen" (horror fairy tales but funny?), for example one about two sauseges where the blood saucage tries to k*ll the liver sausage it invited for lunch? So weird! That one got cut by the editors for later versions.
I don't know about their ideology of the unified Germany, but that is probably me forgetting information...
Sorry, if I'm wrong, this is literally from memory and information I learned years ago. The translations might also not quite make sense, I tried... Also this comment is very late, somebody else might have pointed this out ages ago
Brilliant video! Thing is, there isn't even one unified German culture *today* if one wanted to be nitpicky...when I travel too far south-wards (or north-wards, for that matter...) from my native region of Germany, I can barely communicate with the locals and their food seems a bit strange, LOL! The Bavarians call squirrels "oak-cats" for heaven's sake, it isn't right!
Oak-cat! That's my new favourite fact!
Tbh it's more like "oak-kitty" & it is wonderful bc it gives u the possibility of making others try to pronounce it correctly o.O
I mean.. that is the absolutely brilliant thing about Germany, isn't it? We are a hodge-podge of dialects and cultural expressions. May I recommend Germania by Simon Winder for those who would like to read up on how utterly fragmented (in good and bad ways) 'german' culture is.
The word for squirrel is one of the best examples of the difference in German! Me? I was up in Friesland and can't understand a Bavarian at all!
You need only to look at the map, the migrations from the east to west and north to south and vice versa went through Germany the Rhein , Elbe, Donau where the main shipping lines in the antique and earlier and are used till this day. Pure logic says that there has been several peoples passing through, migrants and war hoards. Our dialects are a good example bavarian is a good one but just go up north friesian is a language on its own but if you listen to it, you'll find a lot of English sounding words in there. A german can not understand friesian. So this myth of a German Arian super white guy stereotyp is false. As a german myself it saddens me that a lot of people haven't learned of our mistakes and crimes against humanity. And I say our mistakes and crimes cause I identity as german it's my home country and it has its past, as it luckily has a future .
When I was working on my history master's degree, my fellow sufferers and I would get together over some beers and bitch about our professers, our class loads, the usual student complaints but we also would play a game of "who would you kill if you could go back in time." I think I now know who your nominee for a time travelling assassin hit man to off would be. BTW one of my major papers was on the US Immigration Act of 1924 which was heavily influenced by the Eugenics movement. Herbert Spencer has a lot to answer for in my opinion.
Totally right! And the US eugenics ideology and official programs were a major inspiration for the nazi party and their official programs. Seriously, if you inspire nazi's it time to take a good long look in the mirror and see what's the cause of that.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States#Influence_on_Nazi_Germany
Stumbled here during a late night rabbit hole reading about white supremacist neopaganism, and you, sir, have earned yourself this subscriber.
Cheers m8. I’m really interested in Norse history iconography, and culture and it’s nice to know they were truly far more multicultural than some white facists would have you believe
Great content! Also, singing to/talking to/threatening the uncooperative computer at the end is so relatable!
Oh, it gets serenaded most days to appease its machine spirit!
The Vikings weren’t racist, they discriminated and raided everyone equally...
Other than the people that they traded with, formed political alliances with, were hired as mercenary armies by etc etc etc ;)
@@niamhybeagable to seek economical or strategical gain in an alliance doesnt necessarily mean, you have to like or respect your partners, as we can see in todays world :-D
Nah, they weren’t bothered by skin colour afawct
It's even more fun when you dive the myth. Most all of the Norse pantheon is halfbreed. Thor's mom? Jotun. Tyrs parent's? Jotun. Loki? Genderfluid and of at least half Jotun parents. Kvasir is literally born of the merging of two tribes. Othinn himself is Jotun on both sides. Fuck your "racial purity" all the way from the roots to the leaves. Go north and down.
Also, thank you OP for an informative video. Great content
i took a whole semester class on grimm's fairytales and the nationalist motivations for their comparative mythology research and fairytale rewriting. its a really fascinating subject!
This is my biggest concern with my growing interest in Paganism. I don’t want to give off bad vibes
As someone who wears Norse iconography SPECIFICLY to counteract white supremacists, I salute you.
Unified German culture at the time of the Romans 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Unified german culture in 2021- Bavarias looking at people from Saxony looking at people from Swabia: "Wait, that's a thing? Noooooooo! Mia san mia."
@@sisuguillam5109 lol, da hasch leider au Recht.
@@CottageTales naja... eigentlich find ich das toll, dass das bei uns alles anders ist, wenn man zwei Dörfer weiter fährt... aber wenn Bayern da ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal draus macht, stellt sich mir der Kamm.
Schönes Wochenende Dir!
@@sisuguillam5109 da stimm ich dir zu. Aber Bayern hat ja soweit ich weiß immer schon gemeckert, Freistaat und so... 🤷🏻♀️ Manche sind halt nur zufrieden wenn sie sich absondern können.
@@CottageTales Stimmt. 🙂
The vikings were pragmatic first of all.
They were more about making a profit than obsessing over their whiteness.
I dont think they cared about that either.
@@arielgoldfarb4118 they cared deeply about much more particular and narrow kinship identities.
@@alexdunphy3716 The existence of the Hiberno-Norse, the Norman French, and the Kievan Rus' would suggest Viking Age Scandinavians didn't care *_that_* deeply about their particular and narrow kinship identities. They married into and adopted the cultural trappings of every land they settled in.
Ah! The Norseman with the "I ❤ Thor" tattoo! I'm dying!!
Really well explained.
"The Vikings were Super White, which means I'm a Viking!" --local American white man who also proudly says he's 1/32 Native American because his great-great-grandfather took part in wiping out an entire village and decided to kidnap a woman to "marry", and that's why he's allowed to wear a war bonnet while getting drunk on Thanksgiving.
WV: "...you are absolutely ... barking up the wrong tree."
CC: "No, my man, he is just absolutely barking, FULL STOP..
Three cheers for salty Jimmy on an absolute tear! Love it! :) The utter scorn for the pitiful fools who came up with these ideas and the equally pitiful fools who perpetuate them was a balm to my soul. The nonsense song at the end was a banger, 10/10 would listen again :)
German here. Thanks for this interesting insight. I once watched an interesting documentary on Nazis occultism that deals with a lot of the stuff you explained here. apparently some of the nut cases higher up in the SS even claimed to being visited in their dreams by their "Germanic ancestors", like some chieftain of some tribe that would tell them what to do. And then their search for the holy grail... these people were all batshit crazy and they must have known deep down it was all just make believe because... well... why wouldn't they when everybody was in on it and it made them feel oh so superior.
apart from all the terrible stuff you learn in school about WW2, when I first learned about their embarrasing supersticions, their obsession with symbols and made up stories, I could do nothing but facepalm and shake my head.
Fascinating video, as someone who loves learning about the Vikings and the medieval period I sometimes come across some videos and channels that not so subtlety promote these thoughts and ideas. Thankfully some simple critical thinking skills blow any of this hogwash out of the water. (I mean these guys were world renowned traders, settlers and explores. Hard to be any of that when you're hating everyone that's different.)
Yeah, it's really not hard to debunk this sort of garbage.
Excellent video Jimmy. A shame that we have to have it, but PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABSOLUTE BELLENDS.
Just found your videos mate, and I know we English and Welsh hardly call ourselves brothers but for centuries we have shared a beautiful island, and whilst we are both proud of our heritage and countries we are closer than we like to think, and I am proud of my Anglo Saxon heritage but as a father of mixed-race children who I feel so proud of supporting the Three Lions during football seasons, one thing I will never accept or hope to never to see is that they are seen as 'impure' and hurt over both their Ugandan and English heritage
Just found your channel, and as an Englishman whose family loves Wales and whose brother has married into a Welsh community, I was fascinated to see what you had to say about a subject that's often in my thoughts. Loved your ethics and research! I've got a germanic paternal haplogroup and I'm really interested in understanding the culture that comes from. (My maternal haplogroup is neolithic western hunter/gatherer.) However, I ABSOLUTELY don't want to be associated with Nazi/supremacist ideology. The more I learn the more relieved I am about the appropriation and poor logic that backs these claims. However, if it were that Vikings had actually been racist, that's no excuse for embracing your genealogy as an excuse for adopting abhorrent beliefs in the modern world. That would be like looking to Victorian Eugenics and saying 'the Victorian's were great, so let's just leave scientific understanding frozen at that point because it allows me to embrace my ignorant, fear-of-other-based, comfort blanket of racism.' Not like that could ever happen.... 😕
This vid makes me feel better about liking viking culture/history. Much appreciated my dude, keep up the great work!
I’ve studied the human drive to oppress others in order to feel superior all my life. The extremes to which such people will create mythology (often dressed up as science) to prove that superiority and the inferiority of others never ceases to astound me. In the end they become incapable of seeing the world, or for that matter history, as it is, which is a sign of severe mental health issues. Sadly, this is a multigenerational disorder, supported by a socio/political/economic system which benefits from bigotry. The cruelty and suffering it generates is horrifying and heartbreaking.
You obviously hit a nerve, the white supremacists seem to be a tad agitated! Which, all to the good, facts don't care about their idiocy.
Thank you for a most excellent rant on an important topic. Cheers!
What do you mean the Mediterranean folk didn't rely on the Nordic countries?! Where would they have gotten their all important supplies of lutefisk or easily constructed cheap furniture?!
Who else would buy their cheapest wine? Well, besides the Celts...
Incredible video, you can bet I'll be sharing this around. You've earned yourself a sub, my friend :)
As a religious Jew, I have a crazy dichotomy in my mind about this. I love Norse mythology and I adore Wagner’s music - it is colossal and absolutely brilliant, but all the harm especially to my people that has come out of it is ridiculous. I would love to see a full video on Wagner, I think it would spark a very insightful and vital discussion.
Wagner was a very troubled and very complicated man, and did a lot of good and bad. Definitely worth a full video or ten at some point.
In terms of Norse mythology, I hope it helps a little that we have, as far as I know, no real evidence from the period that the Norse had any kind of embedded antisemitic thoughts in their culture, and linking it to the hateful rhetoric of the 20th century is a very modern idea
I do understand your dichotomy, and I think it’s one many Jewish people share. It’s a tough one, but hopefully there are others who walked the same path who might be able to offer useful reflections.
@@TheWelshViking You are very correct. I’m studying linguistics, having already attained intermediate fluency in Old Norse and plan to learn Middle High German with the hope of learning and translating texts from that part of the world. I think that the only way this hatred can be rooted out is through knowledge and education. The Romantic nationalism of the 19th century lead to the rebirth of the Germanic myth with the afterbirth of fascism. I think that if we look at historical sources in context and spread good and useful information as you yourself are doing - I think we will be well on our way to trying to correct one of history’s most nonsensical and harmful ills.
Excellent video. I recently started studying norse paganism and once I heard that neo-nazis use the Othala rune as a symbol of maintaining roots and spreading overall, I got extremely worried about the history of the supremacy within norse pagan culture
I know it's many months ago, but thank heavens for you, sir. I've started exploring my Scandinavian roots and it's been a very interesting and emotional journey for me, but I keep running into this kind of disgusting garbage. It's rough trying to research folk music, for instance, because there seems to be so much of this in the music scene in particular.
This whole debacle feels like a bunch of racist fanfiction writers decided to play a game of Telephone, while the Vikings looked down from above wondering what the hell went wrong.
Kudos for taking on That headache, I wouldn't have read those books myself. True knowledge prevails!
New sub so I'm catching up on all your vids. I'm cracking up at your frustration but I get it. I'm in the southern US and I've heard these racists at protests and such. They just make it up as they go and when challenged with facts they bluster with anger, like an angry toddler.
As a Norwegian viking with no sword, i approve 100% 😆
This actually took the exact direction I expected it to. The modern concept of race is way too recent
*Sees title, clicks like*
hope your writing is going well!
Thanks!
It is, thank you! Making good headway so had some editing and uploading time at last!
I did the same!
Thanks for reminding me to like!
The song at the end gave me life.
Thank you for this. Learning a little bit more about history is helpful.
Please tell me that Viking Jimmy didn't actually take a mouthful of that Bird's custard powder. Thanks again for a wonderfully entertaining and informative video. Take care.
What do you mean?
As a German: Thank you for sharing this info. History lessons at school never go that deeply into the ideological history of Naziism.
Btw. there is a documentary by Mo Asumang (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Asumang ), titled "The Aryans", in which she researches a lot of Neonazis, but also visits Iran. And there is this one szene in which she interviews a couple of Iranians about "Aryans" and one man, looking just as you would imagine somebody from the Middle East to look like, goes: "We're all Aryans here."
Because that's what their people called itself for ages. The original word from which "Iran" is derived meant "Land of the Aryans".
When Mo tells them about how Jews were killed in Nazi Germany, because they were "no Aryans", the Iranians answer: "That's not in order. Jews also have a right to live." They also say: "We Aryans think that Hitler was crazy." One of them cites King Kyros with: "There is no difference between the peoples."
th-cam.com/video/JNujlwVu-6E/w-d-xo.html
@@karlosthejackel69 Mo Asumang is a lady.
Hi from Belgium ! I just suscribed to your channel because after visioning à lot of your content I was very pleased to see that your passion is true but more than that you check all the facts from diferrents sources and that's what I like.
I am myself à mix of many culture and on my family we have Christian ( roman Christian) my mother, muslims mu father, and séfarade Jewish ( few aunts). My father is from Morocco and has middel east arabic blood from his father side and Amazighs blood from his mother. My mother was ( she passed away sadly) half belgian and half english( from Lambhet London). I made à lot of researche on the english side but its not easy, I just have few old photographe and others administrative papers but not enough to complet this part of my généalogic tree.
What I want to pass as message is that looking for pure blood line is a non-sens. I am proud of my multicultural heritage and as I am married to a great , handsome chinese men since 25 years now I want my children to know who precede them and use that base to be open to every culture, religion, etc...
So stop with those pure blood non-sens, hystory, anthropologie, archéologie etc are there to show that human was in constant mouvement and that mixity was normal, its wasn't à big deal.
I stop here. Thank you for your content and pardon my basic english as its not my first language.
This! Even as a pretty basic Czech with no exciting ancestry from other continents that I know of and a pretty solid history of Protestant belief on both sides, the family tree and extended family history has some definite Germans and Hungarians, and some possible Jews and Romanians. And that's not counting more recent marriages in the extended family now that global travel is easier.
ETA: I saw this old comment of mine and realised that I recently commented elsewhere in this channel that there are no foreigners we know of in our ancestry for the past several generations, which would seem to contradict what I wrote above. On the off chance that someone pays that close an attention to my ramblings (highly unlikely, but it did hit me now because it was recent): it's actually not a contradiction. The known foreigners are in the family tree, just not among my and my cousins' direct ancestors. :-)
This is the type of content I want to force people to watch when they deride TH-cam as shallow and "only trendy" and childish. I also think our schools, at least in the US, need a major reboot as to how they teach history. One - it doesn't go back far enough. Two - it focuses so much on dates and the concrete that it ignores the fact that history is made of PEOPLE and they should be examined as such. Once again a great video!
Bahaha the insert with the can really got me! Also, I'm totally a fan of that song at the end! Thanks so much for this Jimmy! Love your passion and attitude on this. As someone with a lot of Nordic blood and close family ties to Scandinavia, it becomes a bit personal to me, and I am extremely angry that people would want to twist that heritage into something they can use to fuel hate.
That means so much coming from you, thanks so much for that *polite bow*
@@TheWelshViking A polite curtsey in return, my friend!
As a massive nerd and loser who couldn't keep friends until my mid 20's, I am supremely insulted by your using of my description to refer to these people 😂
It really shows how little these people knew about the world, and how much they cared to explore it, that they thought Jewish and Chinese people to be without culture. It's hilarious that they then claim the Vikings, who travelled and experienced and learned, as their predecessors and inspiration.
My favourite flaw in the “Vikings were proud white supremacists” argument is that to call a man “white” or hvit, seems to have carried some implications of cowardice or even effeminate behaviour. Hvitakristr to refer to Jesus for example, has been interpreted as a comment on the perceived weakness of the new god, or simply nod to the white garments used in baptism. Either one sounds plausible to me, point is as you say they did not think of themselves as a master race.
Hvitakristr can also, and in my opinion more accurately, be translated as Bright or Shining Christ which is a common phrase used in both early Irish and Old English texts to refer to holy figures, and especially Christ. This is also the sense of the word hvitasir asa in þrym 15.1, refering to the god Heimdallr, which is also a highly Christianised text.
@@hlstnr that’s interesting, never heard that before, but sounds like a reasonable idea too
This is probably my current favourite video on all of TH-cam. ❤
How do you give a standing ovation in YT comments?
You know in some languages the w and v can be substituted for each other in other languages the v and b can be substituted for each other, but I believe in general WS can be substituted with BS.
I appreciate the route you took to get to that punchline.
You'll be pleased to know that in Czech, the word for W actually begins with B.
(Although, sadly, BS would not be BS. I'm not entirely sure what it would be, translation isn't an easy automatic 1:1 thing.)
The Grimms didn't come up with like...ANY of their stories. They modified (often in horrible ways, most often the changes would make women - most notably old, childless women - the villains) stories that they heard in their travels, usually ones passed down in the oral tradition from elderly female storytellers. They took credit for and modified countless tales that did not belong to them or their culture in any way. It was really frustrating, but there wasn't much anyone could do to prove it because copyright laws weren't so much a thing then, and even if they were, who was going to listen to a bunch of old ladies, over a dashing pair of wealthy young men?
I really liked this video - very informative and you made some really great points in an entertaining way. However, I was a bit uncomfortable about the way you kept referring to a racist asshole with terms like "psycho". People who suffer from psychosis experience a lot of stigma and the use of psycho as a term to refer to someone for being a horrible, awful person causes problems with how they are seen/treated by people because people associate psycho/psychotic with someone who is dangerous and/or bad. I hope you will avoid using this term as an insult in the future.
Yes, if he was referring to the medical condition of psychosis.
I believe the term "psycho" here is referring to a psychopath aka a sociopathic individual. Personality disorders are not a mental illness. Psychopathy falls under the neurosis umbrella. Having a psychotic break is a very real medical condition which is indicative of a broad range of medical and mental illnesses.
I do not see this video making a positive correlation between an active psychotic break and stable belief systems such as white supremacy or nationalism.
Don't know how I missed this one, but had me bledy cheering this morning. Thanks for the pick-me-up! ;)
Vikings are known for having dragons and being travellers. The only negative things i hear about them is the raping and pillaging. But that is taken with a grain of salt.
People who think Vikings were white supremacists doesn't understand history at all. Races were basically invented in 17th and 18th century. Different skin colors were probably not a sign of some great biological differences for people living in early Medieval period. And if that's what they thought, they were absolutely right. Skin color does not determine the rest of the DNA and it's a very very small part of it. Also fun fact: In 18th and 19th century Finns and Sami were considered to be part of the "mongoloid races" and the Swedes, who were absolutely part of the whole Nordic people are the purest Aryans and Vikings were too, took 80 skulls from Finland to prove with the skulls how low we were in the race hierarchy. So not all Nordics got to the "super human blond Nordics" club. And Sámi people were considered even lower than Finns.
Side note, I'm glad you made this video. I'm new here and I love Old Norse history, but I have been hesitant to watch Viking history videos after being recommended a video which ended up being made by some shade of white supremacist... Now I don't have to worry about that when I watch your videos and I can safely subscribe :D
im happy to find your channel learning a lot
TBH, I already knew that Norse people had no concept of white supremacy. But I didn't know the details of how this came to exist, how this concept was created and spread. Very interesting video.
I always laughed at the far right obsession with the vikings, but the far left has also been guilty of polluting ancient history and paganism with their ideas.
Far-Leftists largely don't care about ancient history. Trust me. I'm very Far-Left.
You're right about Paganism tho. Pagan Leftists are more similar to actual ancient Pagans, changing their beliefs and practices to fit their lifestyle
Thank you!
Somehow I found you!/ it’s hard to enjoy Viking history now and discuss it-
Farmers, ha!! That’s the real truth❣️
Videos like these are so important, historical research is key to understanding the past. As someone who appreciates nordic and celtic history I find it quite sad to see white supremacists making all kind of claims instead of doing some actual research and respecting other cultures. Keep up the good work!
This is the most entertaining call-out of loser nazis I have ever witnessed
This was really informative and well presented. Thank you.
OK I'm late to the party here but an anecdote which I think may interest some.
I've lived in Bangor since I came here for university in the late 80s.
In the early dark days of the internet one of the University societies was contacted by a group in the USA wanting a 'picture of a typical Welshman,'
They were asked what they meant, and got the reply 'someone 'from Wales, dark and muscular'.
Investigation showed them to be a society of white supremacists and so they were sent a picture of Colin Jackson.(Goggle if you don't know...).
Said group went quiet after that. :)
I love every single thing about this. Everything. Da iawn chdi!
>"...he would actually argue with people from Germany and claimed that he knew more about Germany than German scholars."
"Well, actually..." - Houston Stewart Chamberlain, probably.
Mos def. His books and letters are just... wow.
Did the vikings even have an idea of whiteness linking themselves to other Europeans or would they have just thought of themselves as there village group?
The idea of whiteness seems tied to colonialism, it’s relatively recent. The white men looting brown people’s countries needed to justify their awful behavior. Also - American slavery.
I just found this channel and I am hooked. Great job
I utterly enjoyed this video! ♥♥♥
Listening to you trashtalking racist nutjobs is my new favourite passtime activity. :D
Seriously tho, great video, thank you! I have like ten people in my life who definitely need to see this.
This was incredibly informative! I learned so much and you presented it all stupendously! Just excellent. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
Thank you for existing
Awesome. So perfectly stated. Especially the very end.
I wish I could show this video to one of my brothers without fearing for my safety.
So informative and I love your sense of humour
Jeez my heart rate has been through the roof watching this video 👀 if only you could slap some sense into historic figures
History Debunked has some interesting vids on race (for which he gives sources) which pretty much debunk any idea of a 'master race'. So sad that some people are so ignorant of science and history that such views still exist and that you, he and others have to spend time to disseminate information that should be common knowledge (though some of the details you give were new to me and very interesting). Another excellent vid, keep up the good work
"All of this is made up bullcrap from a LOSER who couldn't make friends."
Never change.
freaking chamberlain pulled a "super weeb" on the Germans and vomited crazy on everyone.
This old lady LOVES YOU! I love your channel, and I love this Video BEST OF ALL!!!!!!!!!!! Himler was a twat! And much more. This is hilarious and educational. Thank you sir. Hats off to you.
Watching this made my morning.
I somehow also got the impression, that "Arian" like in Arian Christianity and "Aryan" like in Aryan tribes got mixed up a lot in the 19th century.
Oh yeah, they absolutely trashed the whole thing, mixed fhem up, used them in a variety of inappropriate ways.
You are amazing! Thank you for such a clear Antiracist rant!
Behold my son, the Nordic man
And be as like him as you can.
His legs are long, his mind is slow,
His hair is lank and made of tow.
Hillaire Belloc.
I did my thesis at uni on Wagner and his white supremacist leanings particularly in the Ring Cycle and its adoration of Valhalla for racist heroes.
"Europe was absolutely dependent on the Mediterranean during the Viking period. Europe was NOT dependent on the Vikings."
"Amen" from the heathen choir!
Crikey O'Reilly, I wish these jackwads would actually read a history book and figure this out.